Metalstorm
 

if Martial Law comes to north america
will we be up against something like this ?

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We could ask the palestinians how to take it out with a rock......

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All of the fancy hardware is rendered useless by the opposition's force multiplier known as "30% unemployment".

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More parts = more vulnerability.

imo, R.

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Well, , , , -since the two guys who invented it have been trying to sell it to anybody for about the last 15 years, I'd say I'm not too worried.

Wikipedia has a brief history of their financials. It doesn't mean they're doomed, but it's not real encouraging.




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Nice thought, but what happens when the technology get's outsourced to bangledesh and the last or middle bullets in line get fired first? Oopsie.

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Threads like this make me realize just how poorly the masses understand firearms and weapons in general.

First off I've seen that host before. If he's a Navy SEAL then the SEALs are overrated. Little things, basic things, he gets them all wrong. Look at the way he sticks out his chicken wing when he's shooting. Amateurish. If Joe Sixpack posted videos of himself shooting an AR like that he'd be called out on any number of gun forums.

Metalstorm itself is not practical for engaging civilian targets. The rate of fire is just way too high. If you shoot flesh with metalstorm you punch a hole right through, there is absolutely no difference in terminal effect between that and any large caliber conventional firearm. Metalstorm would be good against heavy armor and missiles, two things civilians don't even have. Metalstorm dumps rounds too fast and is too difficult to reload to be much use against multiple point targets and even its utility against an area target is limited compared to conventional anti-personnel artillery shells. I'd be way more afraid of an M2 machine gun... a design that's nearly 100 years old.

Last but not least, metalstorm is not a new or novel concept in firearms. The exact same idea was toyed around with as early as the Renaissance.

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there is person behind every gun,
fight the operator not a gun,no chances with gun,or maybe some EMP to break the gun,like microwave??

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Good point.

And think about when he says if there is a misfire when the first one doesn't go off?

Anyone other than me more than uncomfortable with discharging a lodged bullet in the tube by another cartridge? Uhh, yeah.

This weapon system still requires maintenance.

What about when the electronics decide there is a fault in discharge, and decide to cascade discharges because the first bullet didn't go down the tube. Heh heh.

It still needs:

Someone to load it
Advanced cartridge preparation (Beyond the means of the time old tradition of conventional ammo)
And circuitry that may or may not have bugs or glitches which may make things dicey.

Assuming they use conventional smokeless powder to drive the projectile down the barrel, they still need to address fouling issues. Just because it's caseless ammo, doesn't mean the thing won't get dirty.

Do they even use rifling? Drop that into the mix, and yeah. Looks to me like all smooth bore at this point.

Think of it like an electronic claymore. A big expensive electronic claymore, which is about 20x the cost.

Great idea though, but I don't think it's going to replace traditional methods for a while to come.

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Metal Storm has been brought up here before. It's a solution looking for a problem--apparently, a problem that no military or police organization currently has.

Can anyone think up even ONE situation where you'd want an extremely-high but extremely-limited duration of fire?




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Aside from missile defense and anti-armor applications? Nope.