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swedexoperator (2 months ago)
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This dude got more or less the exact same body language as you monkey, you related?
oh and btw really nice vids mate!
kaiserpanda (2 months ago)
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Your videos are excellent! Thank you very much. :D
extremeliyo (2 months ago)
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Very Nice.
MrBryanB (2 months ago)
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It looks more like the FN SCAR. IMO
Magpul (2 months ago)
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FN SCAR is based upon the Super FNC while the ACR is based upon the AR18.

ACR offers tool-less QD barrel change and the operating group can be removed without complete disassembly of the rifle. The ACR also offer three types of stocks and handguards vs the SCARs one choice. The ACR uses stock AR15 barrels and AR15 fire control parts in a user removable ALU trigger pack.
MrBryanB (2 months ago)
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What I meant was it looked like the SCAR Externally to clear things up. :)

Either way I'd still go for the ACR.
NWguy83 (2 months ago)
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Is there a set release date for civilian sales?
GhostriderRSA (2 months ago)
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Drake said civvie sales 2nd quarter 2008.

These are going to do exceptionally well across the board IMHO. The only addition I'd like to see is CHF barrels if these are not standard already.

MagPul know their stuff - impressive as always.
mohepworth (2 months ago)
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I wonder what the length of the PRS is? i hope in the 18.6" + ....
ret13yrs (2 months ago)
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i like that buttstock a lot better than than the masadas..wonder what they'll cost??
res0290 (2 months ago)
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MSRP is projected to be around $1400.
juki009 (2 months ago)
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Bushmaster bought the design? Because its called the "Bushmaster ACR"...no mention of Magpul in the name
res0290 (2 months ago)
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Bushmaster bought the design to mass produce the unit...Magpul doesn't have the facilities to produce large quantities of a weapon.
TatsuOyama (2 months ago)
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Holy crap...I thought the old Masada was tight. The ACR revisions look well worth it.

Magpul...just awesome. Now I am just totally blown away and I can't friggin WAIT to get one of these into the old mits.

Thanks Monkey.
timmytithead (2 months ago)
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the stock off the 2nd acr looks like a psg1 stock and the fore grip looks like a g36
pdias92 (2 months ago)
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very promising gun, I rather have the Bushmaster ACR than the FN SCAR
res0290 (2 months ago)
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Anyone have any clue what type of knife he uses at one point to pop the rear receiver pin?
unclethanatos (2 months ago)
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anyone know if the barrels retain zero if you remove them and put them back?
OptimusGonzoo (2 months ago)
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and why can't the US army replace the M16 with something like this?
cowboysarecool (1 month ago)
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The problem is that for the military to change a standard-issue weapon,it involves thousands of guns and millions of dollars. Naturally, they torture test prospective guns to see if it is worth the expense. The last time the U.S military looked at getting rid of the M-16 is when they tested a caseless ammo machine gun that was developed by the Germans. The gun was not adopted because the gun would fire without pulling the trigger if it got too hot. The problem was fixed, but it was too late.
RichardLameo (2 months ago)
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The PRS variant looks alot like a G36 that accepts AR magazines, with added fixed stock.
xAngelKilleRx (2 months ago)
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Any idea how much a Masada/ACR is gona cost?
antm4n311 (1 month ago)
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$1400-$1800. That's pretty cheap for EVERYTHING that comes with the Masada/ACR. I can't wait!
xiaoyuanliu (2 months ago)
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Haha, "Bushmaster ACR....Get some!"
ellidogy (2 months ago)
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Im seeing alot of potential with weapon system, looking foward to see what other rounds the are going to chamber this in. I will definitely give this weapon a try!!!! I never liked the ar gas tube design in the first place but thats jus my 2 cents.

semper fi !!!!!!!!!!!!
TheColdTruth (1 month ago)
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I don't think they understand that a bazillion features and parts are NOT a good thing. You want the absolute bare minimum of mechanical parts. Look at Glock or the AK. Bare minimum of parts, reliable as hell. No matter the weapon design, if you make it overcomplicated it will not be practical. Remember that caseless rifle H&K made?
milspecmonkey (1 month ago)
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I think having less parts when possible is good, but the ACR doesn't appear to particularly be part count heavy.
iunnox666 (1 month ago)
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I didn't think so either, it does have a lot of features but those don't increase the part count. Do you know how much these will go for?
esch1310 (1 month ago)
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Hmm, having field stripped an AK, I can see that the ACR is much simpler in that respect. It's even easier than an AR for that matter. And clearly more ergonomic than the AK series. The gas piston operation should give it comparable reliability.

Good work, Rich and everybody!
atlanyapistol44 (1 month ago)
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i heard that there is a 7.62x39 version of this gun, is that going to be released on the same date?
massaogrady (1 month ago)
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to the comment below me there dosent seem to be too many parts, ak47 is so reliable because all its parts are lose not just simple but lose parts sacrifice alotta accuracy, seems to be a nice lil package tho

id bet my boots the magpul shoman is a marine
GET SOMe magpul nice job
ReconTeam111 (1 month ago)
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Looks like a fine weapon, does it come in 6.8x43mm caliber?
steyrproof (1 month ago)
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scar or acr... that is the question
MaximusErectius (1 month ago)
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I have yet to find anything Magpul I have not liked, but I have a few questions about the weapon since it changed from the Masada:
1. Is the charging handle non-reciprical?
2. Do the charging handles poke out so that it would stick in ur side if slung?
3. Does the stock still fold?
4. Is there storage in the stock?
5. Has the price changed?
Alien1099 (1 month ago)
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1. Don't think so considering that you have to lock in the forward assist
2. Pretty sure you set it to have the charging handle on only one side and swap sides or have both.
3. Yes they still have a folding stock design.
4. Yes there is a battery storage compartment in the folding stock and I assume the same for the other stocks (probably larger compartments for the fixed ones)
5. Price has been said to be right around $1400US. I wouldn't expect that to change much, maybe as high as $1600 though
treesquid (1 month ago)
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He said there was a folding stock available, that gun just didn't have one.
TheMengDynasty (1 month ago)
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But does the gas operation have the same problem as the M-16/M-4?
Or is it like the HK416 uses a proprietary gas system replacing the direct impingement gas system used by the standard M16/M4. The HK system uses a short-stroke piston driving an operating rod to force the bolt carrier to retract. This design prevents propellant gases from entering the weapon's interior, a traditional short-coming with direct gas impingement systems

Which is best? HK416 vs. XM8 vs. ACR????
DeliriumVideos (6 days ago)
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It uses a short-stroke gas piston, the only problems it would have related to the AR-15 / M16 would be related to the star chamber.

416 = good improvement.
XM8 = good in theory, but not ubiquitous.
ACR = good replacement / improvements.
iknowmy3table (1 month ago)
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so thats a gas piston, and typical bushmaster layout, I think this out does the hk416, it should be contracted as the SCAR it's even better
Akshole (1 month ago)
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Whats the torture test result for this?
bigpapa181 (1 month ago)
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If it uses AR barrels and bolts, in theory the end user should be able to convert it to 6.8 or 6.5 on his own. Unless I'm missing something...
iunnox666 (1 month ago)
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They are also planning on making a 7.62x39mm version of most components.
ShootBlueHelmets (1 month ago)
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Sounds right. I was just telling someone the other day that a 6.5 Grendel barrel, a 5.56 lower and 7.62x39 bolt should be about it. Oh, and the barrel parts and 6.5 mag of course. I hope Magpul will consider making PMAGs for 6.5 soon.
Axlsexy1 (1 month ago)
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ACR wips the SCAR
im gettin a ACR
CappinSumBitch (1 month ago)
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lol "Git Sum" nice. That is an awesome firearm!
elcheat (1 month ago)
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I'm continually surprised by the skill of Magpul. This gun looks amazing. Wish I had $1500 lying around so I could get one lol. Did anyone else notice his switchblade?
ecvmsparky (1 month ago)
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w00t w00t!!!!
Kudos to bushy for supporting the American PUBLIC, and NOT puliing a "LAw Enforcement/gov is Superior to stupid commoners" ala H&K
WIN
shinygerbil (1 month ago)
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"squared away"
labartic (1 month ago)
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Please put this weapon out ASAP, I would like to have one before the economy takes an absolute shit and things get really bad. While my dollars are worth something, id like to spend them on guns, bullets, and beans...so to speak :)
ReconTeam111 (1 month ago)
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That in 6.8x43mm would be a damn nice weapon.

Wonder how it compares all around to the Mk.16 SCAR L?
klarkatoo (1 week ago)
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Probably not too well. Don't get me wrong, I favor this weapon over the SCAR, but the two weapons were not built for the same purpose. The ACR is focused on the civilian market, while the SCAR was built by request of SOCOM and is focused on the military market.

The ACR will probably never see any deployment but should be a far better civilian weapon. The way things are going the SCAR may not hit the civilian market for a couple years, it's already been delayed quite a bit.
GunsAnd90sRock (5 days ago)
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I think they're making one. Also a 7.62x39mm Russian last I heard.

Oh, and this kicks the shit out of the SCAR. The SCAR was WAY too complicated.
malleymyster (3 weeks ago)
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do they make conversion kits for the XCR to turn into either 5.45 or 6.5? if not, and it still takes too long to order that, ima just say "**** this" and roll with the masada in 6.5.
olbertus (3 weeks ago)
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Chinstrap beard man is a good salesman, I really want one of these when they are offered to the civil market...
CAPTAINRUSSIA1 (3 weeks ago)
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This thing is freakin' great.Check out flash light,it's in my favorites.This stuff will help kick butt for sure,good stuff...thanks for posting.
MarineWMU911 (3 weeks ago)
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The weapon is being released in may 2nd quarter 2008, april-june, and will be released in 5.56x45mm (M16 round), 7.62x39mm (AK round), 6.8x43mm SPC (In production, will not be with the initial release), and the Grendel round. Since its being produced with bushmaster they'll probably make a bushmaster .450 as well. MASADA IS HERE!!!!
Rimmy138 (3 weeks ago)
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when you pay the 1400, do you get all the different stocks? or would you have to buy them seperately?
klarkatoo (1 week ago)
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I can all but promise you you'll have to buy them separately.

If I had to guess, the standard model would probably come with the railed handguards and the fixed stock, though I'm sure you'll be able to choose what you want when you're ordering.
bighitter42 (2 days ago)
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klarkatoo, on most models you will have to buy the rails as well. But the plastic handguards are badass on it.
saiberunato (2 weeks ago)
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Neat looking gun! So they moved the charging handle forward to avoid impeding the optic mounts along the receiver. Interesting. But I wonder, wouldn't the charging handle NOW impede attachments placed along the foregrip area like (entry light, laser pointer, etc.)?
Captaindamn85 (1 week ago)
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AR-15 lower reciever? America really loves the AR-15 family of guns. Not that I'm complaining, it's probably one of the best weapons ever mads.
mmx25 (2 days ago)
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They weren't trying to reinvent the wheel. It's a 556 gun, and the AR family has an excellent trigger selection available. The idea of this gun was to blend the best of the G36, G3, M16, SCAR etc... into one modular rifle. They hit the mark and I hope this becomes standard issue.
DeltaZax (5 days ago)
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FINALLY someone moved the charging handle
to the forgrip section. Good incorporated
gas piston cycling system. However, I'd like
a different stock, looks... big (?). idk, not
my style. Bolt catch feature is really nice.
Now they need to team up with Alexande Arms
and put these into the Grendel caliber. Then I'd buy one. I have to triple tap with a 556.
I like all the features, but I could live without em'. Too much plastic on weapons nowa days. Some is aight though. NICE WEAPON! -HooaH-
Thx1138d (3 days ago)
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The only thing I did not like about the Masada was the charging handle. The forward one is a nice improvement. This weapon should be sent to our troops in 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel or 6.5 MPC.
Houtaku (2 days ago)
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Great looking weapon, Although the apparent choice to go with an non-removable pistol grip is... strange considering that Magpul is selling so many MIAD grips. Not being able to swap out your battle grip for a Hogue precision shooting grip is a small and unnecessary handicap, IMO.