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Quadroon | 03-19-2010 08:46 PM
Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? 1 Attachment(s) The Good: I�m finally getting into the habit of going to the range on a regular basis. The Bad: That sort of thing can get expensive, in a hurry. (Ammo, as you may know, ain't cheap.) The Bad, Part II: My initial goal as a new shooter, was to reach a point where I�d feel comfortable shooting, and confident that I could hold up my end of the conversation in the event of a home-invasion robbery. Mission accomplished. However . . . In terms of my development as a shooter, I think I may be doing myself more harm than good by continuing to shoot .38 special out of small frame revolver. I read a good book, Practical Shooting, by Brian Enos, that has had a dramatically positive effect on my shooting. But now I am convinced there are certain problems (blinking, flinching) that will be best solved by going back to square one, so to speak. Which means purchasing a .22 caliber pistol. Problem: The .22 I�ve got my eye on (basically because it�s an eye-catching design) is the Ruger 22/45. It seems, however, the 22/45 was designed to mimic/complement the classic 1911. (Controls, ergonomics, etc.) But if I were to purchase a semi-automatic for self-defense, it would almost certainly be a (simpler to operate) Glock. (Or Glock clone.) My question, then, is does anyone make a (reasonably) priced Glock-mimicking 22LR? I am aware of various Glock 22LR conversion kits, however- 1. The kits cost just about as much as a Ruger 22/45. 2. I am not the world�s most mechanically inclined individual. 3. Will it void my warranty? 4. Continually swapping an extensive conversion kit in and out of a gun intended for use as a defensive weapon might not be such a good idea, in terms of liability and reliability. What I�d like then, is a .22 automatic (that I can afford to train with, and shoot recreationally) that (ideally) will complement future Glock ownership. Any ideas? If not, I�ll probably go with a Ruger, and make do. Like I said, they do look really cool . . . Attachment 89467

TechGuy | 03-19-2010 08:53 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? the browning buckmarks are nice 22's as well. We have the camper model and it is fun to shoot... should have gotten the one with the integral scope mounts though... A friend has a siig mosquito and loves it.

GSM/MM | 03-19-2010 08:54 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? note on conversion kits 1- wont void warranty, 2- you do intend to field strip to clean dont you?= no difference in terms of mechanical ability.

S_Goldberg | 03-19-2010 08:55 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? To "install" a conversion kit for a glock requires nothing more than field stripping the pistol. That does not harm the gun in any way. You are right that it costs the same as a dedicated 22lr pistol, but why practice with something completely different than what you will use to defend yourself? Get the Glock conversion kit. It will not harm your pistol and will help you improve your shooting.

TechGuy | 03-19-2010 08:56 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? I don't think there is an easier gun to field strip on the market. I don't really like plastic guns, but the takedown of a glock is just excellent design. BTW>> most of these little 22's are blowback operated are not as easy as the glock to take down.

Bx3 | 03-19-2010 09:37 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? 1 Attachment(s) http://www.advantagearms.com/ you can't beat the quality of the Advantage Arms kits. Mine paid for itself within months. Bx3

Quadroon | 03-19-2010 09:47 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? Good to know that a kit won�t void the warranty. And I�ve read that certain .22�s can be a real pain to break down. Only problem now? New Glock + 22lr Kit = $erious Inve$tment. And the kit will be mandatory. I will probably shop for it first. Shot through about $80 worth of ammo this week. No big deal if I�m going to the range maybe once a month. But on a weekly basis? No way. No how. Any official reason why Glock doesn�t sell a .22? I was surprised they didn�t

Bx3 | 03-19-2010 10:00 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? A 550 rd box of of Golden bullets costs about $17 give or take. Compare that by whatever your centerfire ammo costs and you will have your break even time line. Mine paid for itself within 500 rds. Bx3

ruprick | 03-19-2010 11:28 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? I'm a big fan of Ruger 22/45 style grip pistols.....or also the regular Ruger 22 pistol. Look into finding a sportsman club - possibly join - see if you can find a club that shoots "Bullseye" = NRA Conventional Pistol.....what a great format. You will become an awesome pistol shot. I am in a league and shoot every week - you really look forward to shooting night. I'm a big fan of starting folks out on a 6 7/8 barrel slab sided Competition or Target Ruger. Lots of aftermarket grips for the Ruger. Shoot the 22LR as much as possible. The cost is so low - you don't think about the cost of ammo.

ToBeSelfEvident | 03-20-2010 08:13 AM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? Why shoot a semi-auto .22 if your defense gun is a revolver? Just buy a .22lr revolver. Taurus has a 9-shot that won't break the bank. The S&W models are all $700+

Absintheur | 03-20-2010 09:49 AM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? Glock 17 3rd generation - $375 22 Conversion kit - $200 I know there would be additional costs such as shipping and ffl transfer fees but it should still run around $650 max. If you already know you will want a Glock in the future I think this would make the most sense.

Quadroon | 03-20-2010 11:03 AM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by ToBeSelfEvident (Post 2235396) Why shoot a semi-auto .22 if your defense gun is a revolver? Just buy a .22lr revolver. Taurus has a 9-shot that won't break the bank. The S&W models are all $700+
The plan is to use the .22 to affordably experience the sheer joy of shooting, while at the same time gaining proficiency in the care and feeding of a modern defensive autoloader. I�m really thinking that Glock + kit is the way to go, as long as I can be sure that the quality of the kit matches the quality of the gun, and that its use won�t do any harm.

branshew | 03-20-2010 12:25 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? For what its worth, the regular Ruger Mark I, II, III series (non 22/45 type) has a grip angle more similar to that of a Glock. For familiarity purposes, I still like the idea of the .22 conversion on a real glock, but the Mark series would be a less expensive option if you don't already have the glock.

Floyd | 03-20-2010 12:57 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? Ever looked at a walther P22. Semi auto, 2 different barrel lengths, adjustable backstrap, and an acessory rail for around 300-400 frns. Fun little pistol (my little boy loves it). 2 cents (worth 4):s1:

Ag_man | 03-20-2010 02:46 PM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? As I see it, you've got 3 good choices, the conversion kit, the Ruger 22/45 mentioned by Ruprick and the Walther P22. I don't have any experience with any of them, but if I was choosing, I'd go with a dedicated .22 pistol over a conversion kit. I've heard a lot of good buzz about the Walther P22. I really need to get a .22 pistol to cut my range costs. When I went last week, I took 3 guns; 9mm, .357 shooting .38 SPL and .45 ACP and I have to buy all my ammo and targets from the indoor range/gun store. They like pushing their store-made reloads, but they are pretty dirty ammo IMO, so I don't buy them. With the range time and ammo costs, that trip cost me $75. I could pay for a .22 pistol fairly quickly with that cost. My $0.02.

Quadroon | 03-23-2010 01:14 AM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? 1 Attachment(s) Thanks for the all the input. If I've learned anything in my first year of shooting, it's that almost every decision involves major trade-offs. I like the looks of the Walther. Attachment 89629 So much so, that I'm tending to lean back toward a preference for two guns, instead of one gun, and a kit. :10_1_19: Ah, but these are enjoyable dilemmas. . .:biggrin:

Bx3 | 03-23-2010 10:54 AM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? Any shooting practice is good but that being said, if you go with a quality conversion kit, you will have the added advantages of using your actual lower/frame which gives you the same trigger and grip which equals better training in my book. I bought a P22 when they first came out and sold it a short time later. It was too finicky/unreliable with most brands of ammo. Fun to shoot.....when it worked. They may have fixed it, I'm not sure. If you are not looking at a conversion, I would highly urge you to go with the Ruger (AK 47 of the rimfire world). Bx3

wallew | 03-23-2010 11:36 AM
Re: Are there any Glock-like .22lr pistols? IF you want to lower the cost of shooting... LEARN TO RELOAD All this .22 talk is boring. Learn to reload. In the long run, you can reload ANY caliber you shoot EXCEPT .22 - that should give you something to think about. LEARN TO RELOAD. THEN SHOOT THE GUN OF YOUR CHOICE MUCH CHEAPER THAN REGULAR. NOTHING WILL HELP YOU CONTROL THE RECOIL OF A HANDGUN LIKE SHOOTING IT. Yes you can learn mechanics of shooting with a .22 caliber pistol. BUT WHY? You will eventually HAVE to transition to your larger caliber handgun and learn MOST of it all over again, mainly because there IS recoil. Depending on which handgun you pick, it can be LARGE amounts of recoil (like the 10mm). The only people I suggest a .22 is someone who cannot physically handle shooting a larger caliber. OTHERWISE, buy the larger caliber. Get the equipment and learn to reload. It's not rocket science.

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