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AceNZ | 05-06-2008 09:55 PM
California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1210045084 Tuesday, April 29, 2008 Anti-gun hysteria has reached a fever pitch in the Golden State. The California Assembly is considering a bill (Assembly Bill 2062) this session that, if passed, will have dire consequences for California�s law-abiding gun owners. AB2062 is scheduled to be heard on Wednesday, May 7 in the Assembly Appropriations Committee. Sponsored by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a �permit-to-purchase� would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit. Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a �handgun ammunition vendor� in the Department of Justice�s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer�s name, driver�s license, the quantity, caliber, type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale. All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.

phideaux | 05-07-2008 09:20 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo "We don't need no stinkin' permits!" http://www.darryl.com/badges/madretiny.jpg Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves. Never would they have thought that the word "ammunition" would have to be included in the Second Amendment. :banghead:

Professur | 05-07-2008 09:42 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Here it's required that you have a firearms license, but to my knowledge, it's not logged for the sale. Just needs to be shown.

90%RealMoney | 05-07-2008 10:29 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo I remember about 20 years ago or so, in the Los Angeles area anyway, you had to sign in a journal every time you purchased handgun ammo. I remember doing this on several occasions. Then, that law was repealed I guess. Funny, I still have some full boxes of ammo that were purchased in that manner. Another license for the state to get a yearly fee with. I swear they are just driving Whites out of Ca. with all of this shit. It makes the requonquista effort that much easier! One representative "Gil Zedillo" has this drivers license for illegals bill that he keeps bringing up every session, even though it has been shot down every time! He has gotten the nickname "One bill Gil"!

Twisted Avatar | 05-07-2008 11:00 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by AceNZ (Post 1093206) http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1210045084 Tuesday, April 29, 2008 Anti-gun hysteria has reached a fever pitch in the Golden State. The California Assembly is considering a bill (Assembly Bill 2062) this session that, if passed, will have dire consequences for California�s law-abiding gun owners. AB2062 is scheduled to be heard on Wednesday, May 7 in the Assembly Appropriations Committee. Sponsored by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a �permit-to-purchase� would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit. Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a �handgun ammunition vendor� in the Department of Justice�s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer�s name, driver�s license, the quantity, caliber, type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale. All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.
THEY CAN KISS MY SILVER @$$ IF THEY BELEIVE I WILL SUBMIT TO ANY "authority" THAT WILL ATTEMPT TO ENCROACH ON MY FREEDOMS IN SUCH MANNER!!!! T

Seleukus Nikator | 05-07-2008 11:03 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo I am wondering how we can force California to secede. Can we do that? Its a net loser all round. Why not spin it off from the USA and just least the deep water ports. How about we sell it to Mexico, or do they think they can just invade enough migrants to get it for free? lol

andrey32 | 05-07-2008 11:11 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo I guess its time to stock up on some more 9mm ammo!

Twisted Avatar | 05-07-2008 11:32 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by andrey32 (Post 1093788) I guess its time to stock up on some more 9mm ammo!
Hollowpoints, hollowpoints,hollowpoints! T

eyeofliberty | 05-07-2008 12:03 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Mr. T says: "I pity the fool that lives in California!" :D

Krugerrand | 05-07-2008 03:23 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo It's like trying to tread water in a violent ocean. We're getting damn tired in California, and wave after wave of this shit just keeps coming at us. It's a miracle to get through a day without violating some sort of law. Soon only outlaws will have guns (and ammo). Keep in mind all you fortunate enough to live elsewhere... remember that ammo microstamping bill that passed here some months back? And then later it was showing up in several other states, including Tennessee? Watch for this one to come to your state soon, too. Permit to purchase ammo. F-U, gov!!! What is astonishing is that despite our state legislature having an "approval rating" somewhere in the low teens at best last I checked, every election cycle practically zero seats change hands. Almost 100% of the legislature is re-elected.

MarinePride | 05-07-2008 04:36 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo It's proposed legislation and passed legislation regarding guns that made it easy for me to decide "enough is enough" and move out of CA. The sad thing is that if stuff like this sticks in CA, it tends to migrate East. If VA becomes a steaming pill of dung I'm out of options that ensure a happy existence. Very slowly we are loosing our country.

buff01 | 05-07-2008 05:07 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo I don't know what I'm going to do... I want to get out of this state but there are a lot of things tieing me down here.

90%RealMoney | 05-07-2008 05:27 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Anyone who doesn't think the Mexicans are attempting this reconquista, is crazy. It's being accomplished by shear numbers, and without firing a shot. More and more positions in the local and state legislature are being filled by Mestizos, or whatever you want to call them. These people are Mexicans first, not Americans. As soon as California has a Latino Governor, it's over! You can thank both parties for letting the illegals in, and you can thank the Democrats specifically for giving them the ability to vote. That's why the Dems don't want you to have to show ID to vote. When the Mexicans take over Ca. (largest state for agriculture) All that will be grown in this state is corn for their tortillas! Coming soon to a State near you!

Twisted Avatar | 05-07-2008 05:43 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo As my moma would say: WHEN THE LAW BREAKS COMMONSENSE; YOU BREAK THE LAW. Not to have the means to protect oneself ,family and property is dereliction of duty! T

CattleRancher | 05-07-2008 06:17 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 1093664) "We don't need no stinkin' permits!" http://www.darryl.com/badges/madretiny.jpg Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves. Never would they have thought that the word "ammunition" would have to be included in the Second Amendment. :banghead:
Isn't that the truth. Seems like "ammunition" should be understood in the 2nd. Looks like more and more Californians need to learn to "roll their own" (reload). Or, buy in bulk in Nevada and Arizona and drive it back in. But, perhaps California now has the highway patrol at the borders searching vehicles as they enter the state. To me, this sounds like a round about way of gun registration. Hopefully, the NRA will be all over this one. usflag

Tn...Andy | 05-07-2008 06:28 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo The NRA is too busy washing the windows in the palace at Fairfax, Va.....they don't have time for this kind of stuff. http://www.tri-state-drywall.com/images/nra.jpg

Tallships | 05-07-2008 06:35 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo This will backfire on them. Only stupid people will buy their ammo inside the state, and there will be a lucrative new black market for the mob.

Krugerrand | 05-07-2008 07:02 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 1094146) I don't know what I'm going to do... I want to get out of this state but there are a lot of things tieing me down here.
Welcome to the club, my friend. :no_ma: Tallships... I like your sig: :D "Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a refund from the IRS, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with." Ever overhear people around this time of the year? "Did you have to pay taxes this year? Nah, I didn't have to pay. Actually I'm getting money from the government this year. Come to think of it, everyone is getting money from the government this year. The government is sending everyone checks!" MORONS! The whole "withholdings" process is the second biggest scam. Getting people to give the government their money throughout the year, interest free, and just accepting that is a huge accomplishment. People forget that they're not making 30k, it's more like 40k. But on their paychecks, after all those small numbers (something about deductions, huh?) all they see is the bottom line. If instead we had to write a big fat check to the government at the end of the year for tens of thousands of dollars, there would surely be blood in the streets, and certainly more wailing and gnashing of teeth. :bear_tongue: Wow-wee... sorry to get so far off topic.

Jack London | 05-07-2008 09:23 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo The CIA supplies the drugs, the drug gangs bring more crime, the state imposes more restrictions to combat this crime, and strips the citizen of his right to keep and bear. Ugh. So goes California, so goes the rest of the country. The Republic is gone. Long live the Empire!

reformed wastrel | 05-08-2008 09:26 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by CattleRancher (Post 1094210) Or, buy in bulk in Nevada and Arizona and drive it back in. But, perhaps California now has the highway patrol at the borders searching vehicles as they enter the state.
I can see a business opportunity: stands selling ammo right over the California border. If the CHiPs search cars, that's interference in inter-state commerce, and that's a federal matter. Not that it would stop 'em, of course, but there'd be grounds for a federal lawsuit.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 05-08-2008 10:08 PM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 1094226) Only stupid people will buy their ammo inside the state, and there will be a lucrative new black market for the mob.
You mean Mexico. The mob is washed up.

Tallships | 05-09-2008 08:19 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 1095831) You mean Mexico. The mob is washed up.
I didn't mean mob in the Italian sense, but in the small organized criminal gang sense, which means you are probably right. The Mexican gangs there will become very rich / powerful there.

Twisted Avatar | 05-10-2008 09:05 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack London (Post 1094363) The CIA supplies the drugs, the drug gangs bring more crime, the state imposes more restrictions to combat this crime, and strips the citizen of his right to keep and bear. Ugh. So goes California, so goes the rest of the country. The Republic is gone. Long live the Empire!
Sounds about right to me. T

Ghost Recon | 05-10-2008 09:27 AM
Re: California law to require a permit to buy handgun ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1094216) The NRA is too busy washing the windows in the palace at Fairfax, Va.....they don't have time for this kind of stuff. http://www.tri-state-drywall.com/images/nra.jpg
to much fricken overhead. I wonder what he's making now: http://www.gunguys.com/?p=1061

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