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teedub31 | 02-23-2009 12:26 PM
SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? Doing some research for my pops. He bought a SAIGA a few weeks back (.223 model) and is looking to get a few hi-cap mags. The shop he bought the rifle at had some 30rd mags in stock but he was leary of the $50 price tag. So I got on line looking for him (how do I put it nicely, he aint got no skilz when it comes to the net) and found some mags of different prices at www.thegunsource.com . They have 30rd ProMag magazines for $20.99 and Surefire 30rd mags for $46.99 both are in stock. Can anyone speak on quality or experience. Why the huge price difference? Comments appreciated. Thanks TW

teedub31 | 02-23-2009 12:27 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? Also, would you need a FFL to purcahse these or can average joe pick'em up?

Doge | 02-23-2009 12:43 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? The prices are about right. Surefire's hold the bolt open after the last round while ProMags don't. Surefire makes the better magazine but you can collect a lot of ProMags on a budget (they come with a lifetime guarantee and are not terrible). Anyone can pick them up.

gangsta99 | 02-23-2009 01:33 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? Can a .223 Saiga be modded in anyway to take AR mags? That would be badass if it was say anything near as easy as it is to mod a WASR-10 to take standard double stack AK mags.

shallow_explorer | 02-23-2009 10:40 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? I've recently bought Saiga 0.308 Surefire mags from Carolina Shooters Supply. Super quick shipping and a nice product. Their price on 0.223 30rd mags is $37.95. Don't need an FFL, just a credit card. :coolbeer: http://store.carolinashooterssupply....0-round/Detail

Twisted Avatar | 02-23-2009 11:05 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? Quote:
Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1588537) Can a .223 Saiga be modded in anyway to take AR mags? That would be badass if it was say anything near as easy as it is to mod a WASR-10 to take standard double stack AK mags.
You can do that but then (depending on state) you may not be 922 compliant. Silver city would know better than me. T

SilverCity | 02-24-2009 04:35 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? Quote:
Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1588537) Can a .223 Saiga be modded in anyway to take AR mags? That would be badass if it was say anything near as easy as it is to mod a WASR-10 to take standard double stack AK mags.
Someone designed and marketed an adapter, but it didn't do well, cuz you had to attach it to each AR mag before you loaded it in the weapon. In other words, not very practical, since you need one adapter for each mag. Legalities are another issue... I would just buy Surefires from:http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/i...ex&cPath=25_35

BobtheTomato | 02-24-2009 06:07 PM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? From what I have heard surfire is the best around......supposedly promags jam. 10+ rnd capacity magazines also bring 922 into play. You need to add 4 USA made components to make it a USA rifle. The easiest to add is the tapco saiga front handguard. See more at: http://forum.saiga-12.com

Fatboy | 02-25-2009 07:12 AM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? Quote:
Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1588537) Can a .223 Saiga be modded in anyway to take AR mags? That would be badass if it was say anything near as easy as it is to mod a WASR-10 to take standard double stack AK mags.
Check out this guy: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=30759 Magnolia State Armory, just now releasing their AR Mag adapters for the Saigas and some other guns too. Nathan (the owner) seems to be a great guy. You can read the history at the link I gave you and make your own decision. Saigas in 223 can use the standard AR mags, while Saigas in 7.62 will use the "new" 30 round mags (or the 5 or 10 round mags) from C Products reliably. Seems like a great alternative to AK mags. This is not a permanent alteration to your gun (other than removing a bit off the bottom of the bolt), you will have the ability to go back to AK mags by simply removing the adapter and inserting the AK mag.

leadfoot | 02-25-2009 10:02 AM
Re: SAIGA HiCap Mag questions? From what I've read - the promags are frequently considered inferior to the Surefires. As to using full-capacity mags legally - both of these have three 922R compliance parts. However, for most stock Saiga's you will need at least 1 more compliant part. I replaced the stock gas piston with a U.S. made Tapco brand. Many, if not most, people who do the pistol grip conversion seem to use the G2 fire control group which gets you 3 922R compliance parts. A US pistol grip would get you a 4th. Using a mag adapter w/ your .223 Saiga: I've been considering the one mentioned by Fatboy so I can use my current supply instead of buying a bunch of expensive Saiga only mags. This adapter has just come out so I will give it bit of time for others to debug. There's already been at least 1 design upgrade. You will still need to worry about 922R compliance. If using US made AR mags you will need at least 1 more compliant part on your gun. If using non-US made mags you may need up to 4 compliance parts on your gun. There have been other mods to allow the use of other brands of AK .223 mags in the Saiga. Again, check out forum.saiga-12.com. Dinzag may be the best known. One issue is that each Saiga mag has a built in bullet guide Using other mags requires installing a bullet guide in the gun to make up for this. Also, the magwell is set further foward than in a more traditional AK based .223 so it may require a bit of filing on the trunion in order to work.

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