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Percival | 10-09-2008 12:35 AM
Lets Discuss Ak 47s Thinking of finally investing in an AK47 So far my research has led me to conclude: In order, best quality to lowest quality: 1)Chinese Norinco 2)Hungarian 3)Russian 4) Bulgarian 5)Romanian 6)? 7)? PLEASE REVISE THIS LIST IF YOU DISAGREE. Also: I am seeing BAYONETS FOR SALE but no BAYONET LUGS, do these come with the rife, if not, are they hard to find, whats the deal, how much are they?

The Argent Dragon | 10-09-2008 12:48 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Quote:
Originally Posted by Percival (Post 1344708) 1)Chinese Norinco 2)Hungarian 3)Russian 4) Bulgarian 5)Romanian
Well, in the end, they all fire and perform consistently without jamming but hey, they're AK's ! You left out Arsenal (US made) Ak's that are at the top of the stack or at least near it. The Norinco's are collectors' items and I don't think they're worth the extra $$$ spent IMO. Bulgarians are the best all around for sure but don't discount Hungarian AMD's either. :bear_thumb: Personally, I own a Romanian RPK which is a variant sporting a 22" heavy barrel and it's a bit more accurate. Think of squad weapon instead of battle rifle. Oh crap, you left out YUGOSLAVIAN's !!! Those YUGO's are heavy duty and great performers ! My personal fav from Classic Arms : YUGO - M72 AK RIFLE http://www.classicarms.us/images/ROD7.jpg $549.95 >> http://www.classicarms.us/

low_five | 10-09-2008 12:59 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s The bayonet lugs are a part of the rifle, but many rifles have them ground off. rifles without bayonet lugs helped make them legal under the assault weapons ban because without bayonets the rifle was magically less dangerous and scary and would kill less babies. now that the assault weapons ban is expired, ak rifles can have the bayonet lugs legally. if you get a rifle without a bayonet lug it is not feasible to attach a bayonet to the rifle. maybe if you wanted to spend several hundred dollars at a machine shop they might be able to weld one back on. none of my AKs have bayonet lugs but I dont care cause bayonets are kinda retarded this day and age. one thing I wish my AKs had were the side rails. the side rails probably add stability to the rifle and I would like to mount a holographic sight with a side rail, but I cant.

buff01 | 10-09-2008 03:20 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s How could Russian not be #1 in quality?

elroy | 10-09-2008 05:12 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 1344923) How could Russian not be #1 in quality?
Norinco [chinese] models have thicker metal in the receiver [1.5 times thicker than most] double hook triggers [smoother pull].

negative1 | 10-09-2008 06:49 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s You missed Polish and Egyptian. 1)Bulgarian 2)Polish 3)Chinese Norinco 4)Hungarian 5)Yugo 6)Egyptian 7)Romanian :s1:

AG Capone | 10-09-2008 08:52 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s 1) Russian - 47's and 74's 2) German - good luck finding one 3) Polish - They made many variations - check this one and the newer bullpup here 4) Hungarian 5) Chinese 6) Yugo 7) Egyptian 8) Romanian Would a Finnish Valmet qualify? Galil? Czech VZ-58?

leadfoot | 10-11-2008 10:41 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 1344923) How could Russian not be #1 in quality?
Are you including vepr and/or saiga?

EE_ | 10-11-2008 11:28 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Post your favorite after market stock. wood or synthetic? What do you think of Ultimac? http://www.ultimak.com/BuyAK.htm I think this would be a nice set up. http://www.ultimak.com/m2-b.htm http://www.ultimak.com/6PCAK.htm http://www.ultimak.com/kvfsb.htm http://www.ultimak.com/KVPG.htm Or this http://www.ultimak.com/AKDSL.htm with this http://www.ultimak.com/m2-b.htm

StrawMan=Corporation | 10-11-2008 11:53 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Your forgetting two very good quality variants of the Kalashnikov design. The Galil in both 223 and 308 and the Valmet also in both NATO calibers.

EE_ | 10-11-2008 01:09 PM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Custom AK photos, enjoy! (list of parts below photo) http://www.ultimak.com/pic27.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic38.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic28.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic16.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic5a.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic9.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic10.htm http://www.ultimak.com/pic6.htm

NOOB | 10-11-2008 03:46 PM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Quote:
Originally Posted by leadfoot (Post 1351407) Are you including vepr and/or saiga?
vepr's are as solid as a rock.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 10-11-2008 09:48 PM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s I like the AKs built by Arsenal a lot, and have one in my bug-out location. It's a great carbine! Here's the Arsenal website: http://www.arsenalinc.com/about.htm

The Argent Dragon | 10-12-2008 08:27 PM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Meet my AK variant.........the RPK with a 40-rnd magazine and East German shoulder strap : http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/PICT1031.jpg

Maddie | 10-13-2008 12:51 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Here's a nice site for studying up on what your options are before you buy one. There's enough variation in AKs that just listing quality by country is oversimplification. http://www.ak-47.net/ak47/index.php I have a Romanian SAR. It's okay. Not the best. Not the worst. It was a nightmare to clean. Apparently, Romanians really love cosmoline. I had to haul out my steam cleaner. Lol!

negative1 | 10-13-2008 03:30 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1353974) Meet my AK variant.........the RPK with a 40-rnd magazine and East German shoulder strap :
AD, you are becoming a gun nut. You have come a long way since the Tommy. :s1:

shades2 | 10-13-2008 08:50 AM
Re: Lets Discuss Ak 47s Quote:
Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 1354572) AD, you are becoming a gun nut. You have come a long way since the Tommy. :s1:
It's the sickness. :P Can't stop at just one. I got an email from a fellow at Adobe who develops their software products, after complimenting his pistol collection. It is a very impressive collection to say the least. If I had lots of spare cash I'd probably engage in similar tomfoolery. :yippee:

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