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platinumdude | 12-10-2008 02:08 PM
silver vs brown bear For AK47 ammo, which is better or they about the same?

SilverCity | 12-10-2008 02:22 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1459085) For AK47 ammo, which is better or they about the same?
I believe they are both manufactured by Ulyanovsk with the same components. The only difference is zinc-plate cases vs. lacquer. My Saiga 223 shoots both with the same degree of accuracy and to the same point of impact at 100 yards. I think the AR guys prefer the zinc-plated Silver Bear to eliminate the possibility of lacquer build-up in tighter-chambered AR-15s.

Twisted Avatar | 12-10-2008 02:23 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear As long as you clean the Ak afterwards....... it really shouldnt make much a difference........ I would go with the one I can get the most of. Run it through your puppy and if not pleased with how it feeds........ you now have a EXCELLENT barter or charity item. Cant lose either way IMO. T

SilverCity | 12-10-2008 02:37 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear Those results look a little suspect to say the least. A better control would be: A sandbagged rest. Three AK variants. One magazine per rifle. Three shooters. Five to ten shots, slow-fired groups with a 5-minute cool-down after each brand. What type of "mag failures" were they getting and why? A lot of AK-47.net shooters prefer Golden Tiger for it's accuracy, clean burning, and reliability...go figure.

igorthesmall | 12-10-2008 03:54 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear Since Ive never seen a silver bear around these parts, I always load mine with brown bear. I really wonder who the hell uses that golden bear stuff!

The Argent Dragon | 12-10-2008 04:03 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear I've only shot Brown Bear and I like it more than WOLF. Interested in who here has used the Silver Bear ammo.

The Argent Dragon | 12-10-2008 04:40 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear Well, it seems that Brown Bear is 123-grain and Silver Bear is 125-grain. Silver Bear is rated slightly better as a 'close' substitute for commercial match ammunition. I think the stats are too close to make a difference in an AK....... Probably both differ in preference only.

koyaanisqatsi | 12-10-2008 04:40 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear I've got a WASR-10 and have shot about 500 rounds through it in total. I can't shoot much because I have to go to a friend's farm to shoot my AK. But I bought a deep supply of all these rounds (at CheaperThanDirt, Sportsman'sGuide, Midway) and sampled atleast 3 boxes of each, just to make sure they all hit reliably to point of aim. My test was much like this test, I SWEAR: Silver Bear, Brown Bear, Wolf HP, FMJ and even 154gr SP, and Golden Tiger... I had NO FTF. I had NO FTE. Reliability was 100% with 30-round steel mags, 75-round Romanian and Chinese Drums ... all function was flawless 100% RELIABLE ALL THE TIME. :ok: Groups seemed about the same size, 3 out of 5 would be tight with maybe 2 fliers that would open the otherwise tight group. I couldn't tell any difference in accuracy at 50-100 yards. I can hit a soup can at 100 yards maybe 90% of the time -- if I do my part. THAT'S JUST FINE. This is not my target gun... :ok: I stocked up most heavily on the Golden Tiger since it is the only one with a boat-tail, and boat tails are generally superior at wind bucking and retention of velocity downrange. :ok: I'm being 100% honest in saying the "Ammo Shootout" was nothing like my experience shooting my 'slightly custom*' cheap WASR-10. *Installed a 4x BSA scope on Belarus side-mount, an American G2 trigger group, and stainless steel gas piston, and recoil buffer before the 1st shot was ever fired.

The Argent Dragon | 12-10-2008 04:41 PM
Re: silver vs brown bear Quote:
Originally Posted by koyaanisqatsi (Post 1459401) I stocked up most heavily on the Golden Tiger since it is the only one with a boat-tail, and boat tails are generally superior at wind bucking and retention of velocity downrange. :ok:
Good to know.......thanx

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 12-12-2008 02:56 AM
Re: silver vs brown bear Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1459301) I really wonder who the hell uses that golden bear stuff!
I do. I love it.

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