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Element-47 | 08-19-2008 12:12 PM
Blackhawk SERPA I recently purchased a Blackhawk SERPA Tactical Holster. http://www.lapolicegear.com/blsetahobe92.html Fits a P226 and P220 perfectly (other models available). Also picked up the Blackhawk CQC Tactical SERPA Mag Pouch with Lid. http://www.lapolicegear.com/blcqcsemacaw.html I had to disassemble the mag pouch lid and adjust it to fit my P226 magazines. But, this is one fine system. Added a Blackhawk Reinforced Web Duty Belt http://www.lapolicegear.com/blrewebdube.html I also picked up the Blackhawk Divided Pistol Mag Case w/Inserts http://www.lapolicegear.com/bldipimagcaw.html Any other SERPA users? A little pricey, but this system will last a life time. :D

sindgefallen | 08-19-2008 12:15 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Yeah I have one and I like it. Worked well for me whenever I needed it.

goldgun | 08-19-2008 12:27 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Tacticalresponse.com has an interesting take on the holster under the FAQ. Here is what they said: Why no Serpa holsters? An answer from our friend Paul Gomez: Begin Quote “Over the last year, I have developed some serious concerns with the Blackhawk Serpa Active Retention holster design. Various persons have brought these concerns to the attention of Blackhawk on several occasions and Blackhawk has chosen to ignore these very real issues. The ‘Serpa Active Retention’ design consists of a plastic L-shaped component which functions as the release button [from the outside of the holster] and as the lock [which engages inside the trigger guard]. The short leg of the L-shaped lever pivots inward [toward the pistol], while the locking tab pivots outward to release the pistol from the holster. According to the Blackhawk website, ”The release is made using your normal drawing motion, with the trigger finger beside the holster body. … As your trigger finger naturally comes to rest on the SERPA lock’s release mechanism, simply push the mechanism as you draw the weapon and it releases the gun for a smooth, fast draw.” While Blackhawk may intend for the end-user to apply inboard pressure with the flat of the index finger, under stress, shooters tend to push the button with the tip of their index finger. After all, this is the manner in which most people have the most repetitions pushing buttons such as keys on a keypad or phone or ringing doorbells. When the finger pushes in on the release button and the user initiates the upward motion of the draw stroke, the finger tends to stay in motion and as the trigger guard clears the holster, the finger enters the trigger guard and contacts the trigger, with possibly tragic results. I am aware of two instances where trained personnel have shot themselves using this holster in conjunction with Glock pistols. In August of 2004, a situation occurred with a live weapon that resulted in the shooter losing a 10cm piece of her femur. The other occurred with nonlethal training ammunitions in a force-on-force event in April of 2005. The impact of the NLTA was in the same area as the actual gunshot wound previously mentioned. Following each of these events, Blackhawk was contacted and advised of the problems observed and concerns raised. In the first instance, they claimed that they were unaware of any previous issues with the design and insisted that the design had been ‘thoroughly tested by law enforcement and military personnel’. After the second event, they were contacted by at least two people. Again, they stated that they were unaware of any concerns and had heard nothing similar from any sources.” End Quote

eat_beef | 08-19-2008 02:32 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Yeah, they also have a bad habit of locking down tight when sand/grit/mud gets jammed into the lock in real world situations.

Element-47 | 08-19-2008 04:58 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Well, that's what they get for using a Glock in the first place :D I've not had a problem with mine. I run a Sig P226 and I think it would be completely impossible to shoot yourself while in a quick-draw mode. I suppose an idiot can make anything happen.

Big_Rob | 08-19-2008 05:00 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Meh, I use an Uncle Mikes IWB holster and it does the trick perfectly. :D

Prometheus | 08-21-2008 10:55 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Quote:
Originally Posted by goldgun (Post 1245104) When the finger pushes in on the release button and the user initiates the upward motion of the draw stroke, the finger tends to stay in motion and as the trigger guard clears the holster, the finger enters the trigger guard and contacts the trigger, with possibly tragic results. I am aware of two instances where trained personnel have shot themselves using this holster in conjunction with Glock pistols. In August of 2004, a situation occurred with a live weapon that resulted in the shooter losing a 10cm piece of her femur. The other occurred with nonlethal training ammunitions in a force-on-force event in April of 2005. The impact of the NLTA was in the same area as the actual gunshot wound previously mentioned.
Stupid is as stupid does. Properly used there won't be an issue. A more curious wonder is why people are rolling around in the dirt in a holster that is completely open. What sort of mental giant doesn't expect the weapon and holster to become inundated with crap? I love my SERPA for my Service XD9. It's great for regular urban carry. I wouldn't think for a second of using it in anything but an urban environment. That sort of non thinking is like a wanna be mechanic changing his oil in a suit and tie and wondering why it comes back from the dry cleaners still looking like crap. There is no "one best holster". You need proper holsters for each situation. As for uncle mikes... Worlds cheapest holsters.. for a reason. Your life might depend on that holster one day. Buy something with that in mind. Cost doesn't equate to function in every case (case in point the serpa), but uncle mikes is bargain basement.

CyberGold | 08-21-2008 11:29 PM
Re: Blackhawk SERPA Just tried it with mine and it is easy to do just as indicated unless you are used to keep your finger straight as you draw.

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