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The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 09:44 AM
Nagant O Rama ! Oh yeah, just ordered my 1st Nagant Revolver and (2) TWO Nagant rifles this mornin' (hex recievers). http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...Long_Guns.html :5_1_120: :10_1_20: :5_1_120:

Captain Morgan | 01-30-2009 10:09 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1539857) Oh yeah, just ordered my 1st Nagant Revolver and (2) TWO Nagant rifles this mornin' (hex recievers). http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...Long_Guns.html :5_1_120: :10_1_20: :5_1_120:
Which revolver did you get?? Is it the N1895?

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 10:18 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Dam.......... that sucker fires a 7.62x54. Thats a Druganov Sniper Round(how I can relate things in my head) Big nasty bullet that can dam near punch though BP glass. How many dose a Nagant Hold??

The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 10:23 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 1539891) Which revolver did you get?? Is it the N1895?
Yes, it's the 1895 Model >> http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S..._Handguns.html :ok:

Captain Morgan | 01-30-2009 10:26 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1539917) Yes, it's the 1895 Model >> http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S..._Handguns.html :ok:
Nice, I have until today to get in a group purchase for the same pistol from our local club. $110 out the door, hand picked models. I'm considering it! http://world.guns.ru/handguns/nagant.jpg

The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1539901) How many dose a Nagant Hold??
5 rounds......

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1539930) 5 rounds......
I have a thread on here Florida Gun Exchange...... Part 2 where I have oodles of pictures (50 cals ,Ar's 1911 2 shot pistols suppressors) I think there were Nagants on the wall. Im surprised you didnt weigh in on the thread AD I took pics of the 50 Cal expressley for you to gawk over. :565:

The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1539939) 50 Cal expressley for you to gawk over. :565:
Sorry, been kinda busy.........got a link ?

Eroberer | 01-30-2009 11:06 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Are those decent Mosins? I would really like to pick one up for that price, and a crate of ammo.

The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Eroberer (Post 1540003) Are those decent Mosins? I would really like to pick one up for that price, and a crate of ammo.
I would say so. The lady over at AIM said they're Arsenal refinished. As for the 'Hex' receiver, these are early Mosins built during WWII. After the war they went to a round receiver to save on fabrication costs.

CrufflerJJ | 01-30-2009 12:02 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Several points in this post: - MN rifle holds 5 rounds (as previously posted). The Nagant revolver holds 7 rounds of oddball (deep seated wadcutter bullet, case mouth crimped over bullet nose) ammo. It's interesting to compare the Nagant revolver to a more modern (S&W, Colt, Ruger,...) revolver. There's been a wee bit of progress made over the past 100 or so years! - 7.62x54R is what I call a "real" caliber, about the same power as a .30-06. It is NOT a magic, armor piercing round, in normal loadings. Treat it as a .30-06 for penetration. Yes, if you find some hardened core (not mild steel core) AP bullets, good things could happen. - AIM's MN rifles, while advertised as "Refinished to Excellent Condition", should be considered as very good external condition. I got a couple rifles a couple months ago. One was a round receiver, 1938 Tula arsenal receiver (star w/ vertical arrow mark). Excellent condition bore (slightly worn, but strong & bright). Arsenal repair at toe of buttstock, plenty of scratches/scrapes & some drips to the shellac finish. Bluing is in VG-Exc condition, with noticeable wear at muzzle (from mounting the bayonet), small InterOrdnance dot matrix import mark on top of barrel by muzzle. Bayonet serial number doesn't match rifle receiver s/n. NOTE: I've found InterOrdnance to be untrustworthy scum in firearms purchases. Buy direct from them at your own peril. My second AIM rifle was a 1928 dated hex Izhevsk arsenal receiver (Cyrillic markings), with similar metal & wood condition to the round receiver rifle mentioned above. The front of the stock (?forend?) was finished with very dark (drippy) shellac, while the buttstock was finished with the normal red-yellow shellac. Good Soviet workmanship! Mosin Nagant rifles are neat pieces of history. The AIM rifles are certainly worth the $70-$80 (especially since they come with all they neat accessories). While ammo prices have doubled over the past couple years, it's still fairly inexpensive compared to other "real" calibers. If you want to see some really neat MN rifles, look at those made during mid-WWII. VERY rough machining on the receivers - they look almost like they were chewed out of a chunk of steel by a beaver on crack. They still worked, though!

<SLV> | 01-30-2009 12:11 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! The glee over MN rifles is a sad testimony to the fact that our government is disarming the populace by narrowing our choice of arms to 100-year old technology. Maybe that is a slight exaggeration -- the AK-47 came out in 1947, but that was full-auto, and we aren't allowed to have that technology. The only thing we can reasonably afford to arm ourselves with is semi-automatic. Without banning all guns they have accomplished their purpose -- they have made sure that the population is out gunned by law enforcement and military. You had better purchase guns according to the following criteria before they are outlawed: 1. Black 2. High capacity (15+ handgun, 20+ rifle) 3. Semi-auto only Be sure to buy commonly available calibers.

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 12:22 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! They may have BETTER guns and cutting edge TACTICS But we have MORE guns and the DRIVE to defend our way of life. When those two forces collide History has show who the winner is time and time again. T

The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 12:27 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1540151) You had better purchase guns according to the following criteria before they are outlawed: 1. Black 2. High capacity (15+ handgun, 20+ rifle) 3. Semi-auto only
Well, let's see.............AK, FAL, AK, FAL, AK (yep, I have it covered). As for backup via bolt-actions, you can buy several Mosins for 1 AK. Yes, I know you can only shoot 1 rifle at a time......BUT consider this. STRENGTH in NUMBERS and I'll have plenty of Mosins to pass out to defending neighbors, comrades, etc. ........IF we get to that point. AND, if and when the EBR's get banned then the prices of Mosins go up along with a lot of other guns. It's kinda like arguing whether or not to invest in Gold or Silver. Yes, I have some Gold coins but also include 90% junk silver in my stash..........cheap and necessary. :yes:

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1540176) Well, let's see.............AK, FAL, AK, FAL, AK (yep, I have it covered). As for backup via bolt-actions, you can buy several Mosins for 1 AK. Yes, I know you can only shoot 1 rifle at a time......BUT consider this. STRENGTH in NUMBERS and I'll have plenty of Mosins to pass out to defending neighbors, comrades, etc. ........IF we get to that point. AND, if and when the EBR's get banned then the prices of Mosins go up along with a lot of other guns. It's kinda like arguing whether or not to invest in Gold or Silver. Yes, I have some Gold coins but also include 90% junk silver in my stash..........cheap and necessary. :yes:
Nothing wrong with that line of thinking. The way how things are shaping up those that hold Gold, Silver,Guns and ammo. Will be very wealthy in the years to come.

Abouthadit | 01-30-2009 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1540167) They may have BETTER guns and cutting edge TACTICS But we have MORE guns and the DRIVE to defend our way of life. When those two forces collide History has show who the winner is time and time again. T
Talking about drive and motivation reminds of reading about the North stopping the prisoner exchange because the Rebs would go home, get a gun and get back in the fight. The Yanks would go home and stay home.

The Argent Dragon | 01-30-2009 02:58 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! For those with Nagant Rifles and want to research 'Rarity' - checkout this link >> http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRarity.htm Rarity of Mosin Nagant Rifle Variations

meatman | 01-30-2009 03:32 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1539857) Oh yeah, just ordered my 1st Nagant Revolver and (2) TWO Nagant rifles this mornin' (hex recievers). http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...Long_Guns.html :5_1_120: :10_1_20: :5_1_120:
I just picked up 2 more Mosin's (hex )to add now have 6 mosin's theses were so full of cosmoline- I found a gunsmith that charged me $35 a gun to clean them up( takes me about a week to clean one gun of cosmoline)- when I got them back they looked like they were brand new plus he test shot both, well worth the $35 although if you look at it a dollar way it cost me half the gun to clean them.

elroy | 01-30-2009 09:12 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! I just got back from the little local gun shop. Bought a real nice looking Mosin Nagant for $95 + tax. It is a Izhevsk, Russia manufacture, dated 1943, has a round receiver and all the numbers on the gun match. It came with a bayonet, tools, oil bottle, sling etc. The gun is very clean, no cracks, no dings to speak of either. The dealer said it came from Southern Ohio Gun so they may have more nice ones. I have AKs, pump shotguns, handguns etc but this is my first real rifle.:getdown:

Ag_man | 01-30-2009 09:18 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1540532) I just picked up 2 more Mosin's (hex )to add now have 6 mosin's theses were so full of cosmoline- I found a gunsmith that charged me $35 a gun to clean them up( takes me about a week to clean one gun of cosmoline)- when I got them back they looked like they were brand new plus he test shot both, well worth the $35 although if you look at it a dollar way it cost me half the gun to clean them.
IMO, that's a helluva good deal, considering the time it takes. I remember stripping a cosmoline packed gun and it did take me all of a week to get it clean. You have a good gunsmith.

Lars Ragnarsson | 01-30-2009 09:21 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! I love the MN rifles. I think I'll order two more while I'm thinking about it. Where else can you get a bolt action rifle with the punch of a 30-06 for under $100? And you can get stripper clips to help load those 5 rounds PDQ. If you have a C&R license, it's a no-brainer. Two more it is! :ok:

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 10:07 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1540195) Talking about drive and motivation reminds of reading about the North stopping the prisoner exchange because the Rebs would go home, get a gun and get back in the fight. The Yanks would go home and stay home.
See what I mean? The South "lost" for technical Reasons....... if they had employed a "To The Last Man" mindset in due time it would have broke the back on The North. That is what happens when you have CENTRAL PLANNERS as opposed small pockets of resitence that are independant of each other but unified in purpose are able to asses and create strategies (on the fly) to antagonize and demoralize the enemy. It has worked in the past ..........and it will work again. T

ohioarmedneutrality | 01-30-2009 11:04 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Congrats Argent. Did you know it is possible to fire other rounds in your Nagant? I've fired S&W .32 Longs with little problem and I've heard you can fire .32 H&R Magnums also. Naturally you will want to read up on this before just taking my word for it and trying it out. Anyway, I'm sure you will enjoy your new acquisitions. Here's a snapshot of my Nagant revolver http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...nagant0010.jpg and my Mosin Nagant M-44. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q.../m44003rev.jpg Unfortunately both were tragically lost during a mountain-climbing expedition in the Himalayas. Shucks!

30pcsAg | 01-30-2009 11:35 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Does the cylinder press forward to seal the chamber on these revolvers?

ohioarmedneutrality | 01-30-2009 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 30pcsAg (Post 1541306) Does the cylinder press forward to seal the chamber on these revolvers?
Yes, they do. Here's a good link for info on the Nagant: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bu...M1895page.html

WAoG | 01-31-2009 12:01 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! I have gone a different direction in my odd ball guns but many years ago a gun nut buddy kept telling me about these Russia rifles and pistols that could be had cheap. He love them, said they used the same ammo. Its hard to believe they are still this low priced? I was talking to the neighbor about these guns a few weeks ago. He wants to better arm his family but not spend big bucks. So told him about Russia rifles and pistols that used the same ammo. Told him the ammo was still cheap and he could have it sent to my house as I do not care about who knows what. If I did not need a few things and more ammo for my odd ball guns I would buy these. I like my odd ball rifles better that these but with those low priced pistols you can not go wrong!! Just like my buddy told me a couple decades ago.

WAoG | 01-31-2009 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 1539924) Nice, I have until today to get in a group purchase for the same pistol from our local club. $110 out the door, hand picked models. I'm considering it! http://world.guns.ru/handguns/nagant.jpg
These babys really shoot the 7.62x54R?

Willie Peter | 01-31-2009 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WAoG (Post 1541357) These babys really shoot the 7.62x54R?
Of course you're kidding....right?:4_1_72:

30pcsAg | 01-31-2009 12:57 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! WAog, that made me laugh too. :36_3_12: OAN, That one you lost climbing sure was pretty. :thumb.aspx: I think I saw a video here once that demonstrated the acoustic advantages of the sealed camber. :bear_thumb:

Eulenspiegel | 01-31-2009 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 30pcsAg (Post 1541380) WAog, that made me laugh too. :36_3_12: OAN, That one you lost climbing sure was pretty. :thumb.aspx: I think I saw a video here once that demonstrated the acoustic advantages of the sealed camber. :bear_thumb:
Yup - the Nagant revolver can be suppressed. Incredibly quiet, too (at least according to the YouTube video.) That, and the cheap price, is the only good thing going for it. "Double action" is a workout!

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gypsybiker45 | 01-31-2009 05:02 AM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! Quote:
Originally Posted by WAoG (Post 1541357) These babys really shoot the 7.62x54R?
No, they dont , they fire the 7.62 Nagant, a round that looks "uncircumcised" all Russian weapons of the period were 7.62 (.30) caliber for tooling reasons, these include the 7.62x54R,7.62x25mm,7.62 Nagant,and 7.62x39mm.BTW the hex reciever guns are from Tsarist times (pre WW1)the round recievers were to save machining costs and are from the 1920s onward(Soviet).

DuneLurkin | 01-31-2009 12:19 PM
Re: Nagant O Rama ! FWIW - Stopped by a small local military/gun show this morning near Mpls MN. The long version of MN were priced at $119 Also noticed that Saiga 12ga. shotguns were going for $1100 AK were none existant and scant few ARs.

Caligula | 01-31-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DuneLurkin (Post 1541864) Also noticed that Saiga 12ga. shotguns were going for $1100
Why not pick up a few then.... http://www.centerfiresystems.com/SAI-12.aspx Looks like you'd make a pretty penny.

Twisted Avatar | 01-31-2009 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DuneLurkin (Post 1541864) FWIW Also noticed that Saiga 12ga. shotguns were going for $1100 AK were none existant and scant few ARs.
You can doublle or tripple that price when the AWB P2 comes into play

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