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electric-amish | 05-01-2009 06:44 PM
Ammo info from inside the plant sources Like almost all fanime or shortage the Gov is involved here. There are other things also. Manufacturer didn't buy Brass at typical levels because of the spike in Metals price. They were waiting for it to fall. This caused them a shortage that was hard to over come. Manufacturer had subcontracted for primers from a company that gave them a bad bunch and had to be fired. Then the manufacturer had to retool their own lines and produce thier own primers.-----Shortage due to months of primer manufactureing being done by sub standard co. Seems DOD, DHD, and Leos have orders at the plant more than 4xs normal. Gov contracts get presidence over Civilian and Industry users. However some will be released at a reduced level. All Lines are going full blast for 9mm and 45. The 380 shortage is due to it being made on the same machines as the 9mm which are committed and running filling Gov Contracts. No 380 being ran at all until the Gov Contracts are filled----estimated 2-3 months. 38 Special ammuntion and other hand gun ammo is held hostage to the Gov contracts being filled and the Small Pistol Primer shortage caused by the down time. Ammuntion shortage should be over in 2-3 months at current production levels and then they will release to public at full speed. E-A

FireMattMillen | 05-01-2009 06:49 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources I have deja vu with Atlas Shrugged. In the book, the government has legal precedent over private orders - so the government dries up the supply of the special Rearden Metal. As always, the government uses its order for destructive purposes while the average citizen loses out.

<SLV> | 05-01-2009 06:52 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources That is one reason I chose 9mm as my pistol/SMG caliber of choice.

leadfoot | 05-01-2009 07:24 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1704140) That is one reason I chose 9mm as my pistol/SMG caliber of choice.
I went with .40 (because 9mm is such a worthless caliber :bull-smile: :sarc:) in small part because many PD's around here use it but I have 9mm conversion barrels for 'just in case.'

electric-amish | 05-01-2009 08:55 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources Quote:
Originally Posted by electric-amish (Post 1704130) Seems DOD, DHD, and Leos have orders at the plant more than 4xs normal. E-A
Ah Hummmmm you missed the little time bomb. E-A

voodoo1951 | 05-01-2009 10:03 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources Quote:
Originally Posted by electric-amish (Post 1704130) Like almost all fanime or shortage the Gov is involved here. There are other things also. Manufacturer didn't buy Brass at typical levels because of the spike in Metals price. They were waiting for it to fall. This caused them a shortage that was hard to over come. Manufacturer had subcontracted for primers from a company that gave them a bad bunch and had to be fired. Then the manufacturer had to retool their own lines and produce thier own primers.-----Shortage due to months of primer manufactureing being done by sub standard co. Seems DOD, DHD, and Leos have orders at the plant more than 4xs normal. Gov contracts get presidence over Civilian and Industry users. However some will be released at a reduced level. All Lines are going full blast for 9mm and 45. The 380 shortage is due to it being made on the same machines as the 9mm which are committed and running filling Gov Contracts. No 380 being ran at all until the Gov Contracts are filled----estimated 2-3 months. 38 Special ammuntion and other hand gun ammo is held hostage to the Gov contracts being filled and the Small Pistol Primer shortage caused by the down time. Ammuntion shortage should be over in 2-3 months at current production levels and then they will release to public at full speed. E-A
Just hearsay w/o a link...:MIA:

TTAZZMAN | 05-01-2009 10:31 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources so can someone give me a hint as to why i cant find stock 22magnum or the only thing that i can find is the high dollar twice the normal price stuff everything else is no stock cant be primers cant be same line as some other gov stuff i have had cases of 22mag on order with some places over 3 months and still dont have it

smullen | 05-02-2009 03:56 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoo1951 (Post 1704394) Just hearsay w/o a link...:MIA:
I dunno, some people you can pretty much trust without having links, 3 forms of ID and finger prints to back up their claim.... Especially if its something that not off the wall or hard to beleive...

St. Germain | 05-02-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoo1951 (Post 1704394) Just hearsay w/o a link...:MIA:
EA's word is good enough for me. ST

Ag_man | 05-02-2009 08:29 PM
Re: Ammo info from inside the plant sources Quote:
Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 1704450) so can someone give me a hint as to why i cant find stock 22magnum or the only thing that i can find is the high dollar twice the normal price stuff everything else is no stock cant be primers cant be same line as some other gov stuff i have had cases of 22mag on order with some places over 3 months and still dont have it
Does anyone have experience with commercial ammo production? Do they set up fixed, caliber-specific production lines, or is the tooling flexible enough to change out week-to week; 9mm this week, 45 ACP the next?

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