Page 1 of 2 | 1 | 2 | >
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

Gold & Silver Forum (http://goldismoney.info/forums/index.php)
- Firearms (http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159)
- - lets bash Beck some more (http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=351439)

Workaholic | 02-20-2009 04:16 PM
lets bash Beck some more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYSLw...layer_embedded here's another for you Beck bashers..:sarc:..enjoy

cortez | 02-20-2009 04:25 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more his rhetoric has come on, but he gets a big middle finger for dissin Ron Paul and his supporters early on. :shine:

GoldWampum | 02-20-2009 04:43 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Yeah, let's just hold a grudge. Ron's not asking for one (an apology). Good enough for me. How do you know what he and Ron have talked about? A very small picture view in my opinion. I don't know why Glen Beck is doing what he's doing, and I don't care. Lot's of people hear him and have followed his program for a while. They need to hear what he is saying. It's about time. It helps ME communicate with THEM. So I'll applaud the message. And hope he continues on a roll and also continues to have RP on from time to time.

louisianagold | 02-20-2009 04:44 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1583666) Yeah, let's just hold a grudge. Ron's not asking for one (an apology). Good enough for me. How do you know what he and Ron have talked about? A very small picture view in my opinion. I don't know why Glen Beck is doing what he's doing, and I don't care. Lot's of people hear him and have followed his program for a while. They need to hear what he is saying. It's about time. So I'll applaud the message. And hope he continues on a roll and also continues to have RP on from time to time.
Agree. Let's quit eating our own. Applaud the guy for waking up the public.

Dirty Harry | 02-20-2009 05:07 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more You guys must not be regular listeners. Beck has been talkin' "smack" against the establishment for quite a while. I'll agree he did RP wrong in the election, but I think it was because he wanted someone with business experience, i.e. Romney. He has come around on Paul somewhat though. He's been closer to the GiM camp than alot here give him credit for. Perfect, hell no, but then neither am I.

Workaholic | 02-20-2009 05:14 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Glenn Beck and GIM helped me to swallow a large and bitter red pill F U all the beck bashers at this time

ruprick | 02-20-2009 05:18 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more My friends and family are hearing Beck now on the TeeVee and are saying...wow...he sounds just like you.......it is helping them realize the big problems I've been talking about.

renegade_01 | 02-20-2009 05:22 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1583749) My friends and family are hearing Beck now on the TeeVee and are saying...wow...he sounds just like you.......it is helping them realize the big problems I've been talking about.
yah...exactly. How does it feel when your own family trust some yuppie jerk off on TV over you? :36_1_28:

renegade_01 | 02-20-2009 05:23 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1583738) Glenn Beck and GIM helped me to swallow a large and bitter red pill F U all the beck bashers at this time
:4_8_4v: Beck is and always will be a SHILL in my book. He's on mainstream media for a reason.

Canadian-guerilla | 02-20-2009 05:23 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by cortez (Post 1583630) his rhetoric has come on, but he gets a big middle finger for dissin Ron Paul and his supporters early on. :shine:
he's saying all the right things NOW, but i could train a parrot to say those things too

GoldWampum | 02-20-2009 05:26 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1583749) My friends and family are hearing Beck now on the TeeVee and are saying...wow...he sounds just like you.......it is helping them realize the big problems I've been talking about.
This helps me also. Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583757) yah...exactly. How does it feel when your own family trust some yuppie jerk off on TV over you? :36_1_28:
Good actually. If they begin to open their mind to what I am talking about, how is that bad? Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583760) :4_8_4v: Beck is and always will be a SHILL in my book. He's on mainstream media for a reason.
Your point?

staupostek | 02-20-2009 05:27 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more I keep seeing this trend. People gripe about how nobody will open their eyes and see what's really going on. Then when someone does come around, those same people trash them for not seeing it sooner. What good is it to spread a message if we sacrifice anyone whom we awaken?

Chibioz | 02-20-2009 05:29 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more I like beck. I think he had a change of heart mid election when he woke up to central banker history. He's had paul on a few times after that and was more sympathetic to his views. He may not be perfect but he's head and shoulders above any other mainstream news program right now.

renegade_01 | 02-20-2009 05:30 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1583765) This helps me also. Good actually. If they begin to open their mind to what I am talking about, how is that bad? Your point?
my point is....your family trusts someone's word who they don't know over yours....:no_ma: you enjoy that?

renegade_01 | 02-20-2009 05:32 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by staupostek (Post 1583768) I keep seeing this trend. People gripe about how nobody will open their eyes and see what's really going on. Then when someone does come around, those same people trash them for not seeing it sooner. What good is it to spread a message if we sacrifice anyone whom we awaken?
What I keep seeing is a bunch of new GIM members who are pro-mainstream media... you want to be led to slaughter...be my guest. The guy is on FauxNEWS now for christ's sake. Wake up.:cry1:

Silver Shield | 02-20-2009 05:32 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Beck is doing a good job in the msm... He was very against Ron Paul... He will be the first one to say " accept the amero" or go to the FEMA camps for safety.... Judge him as you will....

RJB | 02-20-2009 05:33 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more He says we're the bubba effect. heh heh. He also still believes we must police the world. Anybody else watching his report now?

ruprick | 02-20-2009 05:34 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more It's all about getting the message out to as many as possible and as fast as possible. We all want the same end results. I bet a few weeks of Beck programs like these will impact way more folks that 6 months of Ron Paul....and I love Ron Paul.....but Ron lacked and still lacks the "punch".

renegade_01 | 02-20-2009 05:35 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Shield (Post 1583788) Beck is doing a good job in the msm... He was very against Ron Paul... He will be the first one to say " accept the amero" or go to the FEMA camps for safety.... Judge him as you will....
You can't tell these CLOWNS that... Some of you folks put your heart,soul, faith, in these people. GROW UP. Beck is doing nothing but making money off peoples emotions... EOS

specsaregood | 02-20-2009 06:20 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Harry (Post 1583718) You guys must not be regular listeners. Beck has been talkin' "smack" against the establishment for quite a while. I'll agree he did RP wrong in the election, but I think it was because he wanted someone with business experience, i.e. Romney. He has come around on Paul somewhat though. He's been closer to the GiM camp than alot here give him credit for. Perfect, hell no, but then neither am I.
I thought he wanted romney cuz they are both mormons. I wonder how much of any Beck's mormon background plays into all this. Are not mormons supposed to be prepped for TSHTF? And RP has business experience, small business experience. He did have a private practice in TX for quite some time.

Dirty Harry | 02-20-2009 06:29 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by specsaregood (Post 1583861) I thought he wanted romney cuz they are both mormons. I wonder how much of any Beck's mormon background plays into all this. Are not mormons supposed to be prepped for TSHTF? And RP has business experience, small business experience. He did have a private practice in TX for quite some time.
Yeah, I'm sure the mormon thing had some to do with it, but Romney was very successful in major companies, plus I believe he took Taxachusetts into the black while gov. I don't know...don't think I could vote for someone with hair that perfect. lol I would respect Paul more if he told the GOP to get f+@#$d and start a new party, or go Libertarian.

specsaregood | 02-20-2009 06:44 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Harry (Post 1583874) I would respect Paul more if he told the GOP to get f:censored:d and start a new party, or go Libertarian.
That may be a common sentiment but I can't really fault the guy in that respect, he is old and has worked his way into the fold where he has a stable seat at the table. And as a republican he pretty much owns his district and can remain a "fly in the ointment" that they can't get rid of; that wouldn't necessarily be true in the scenario you describe. I think he has done plenty and trust his judgement in this respect. We need to groom our own younger leaders to do what you describe; but that doens't mean they can't use RP as a role model in regards to behavior once elected.

markt | 02-20-2009 06:44 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more At least Beck makes good beer! :wink:

Dirty Harry | 02-20-2009 06:48 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by specsaregood (Post 1583884) That may be a common sentiment but I can't really fault the guy in that respect, he is old and has worked his way into the fold where he has a stable seat at the table. And as a republican he pretty much owns his district and can remain a "fly in the ointment" that they can't get rid of; that wouldn't necessarily be true in the scenario you describe. I think he has done plenty and trust his judgement in this respect. We need to groom our own younger leaders to do what you describe; but that doens't mean they can't use RP as a role model in regards to behavior once elected.
Granted, but I think the Republican party is damn near as corrupt and every bit in the can with TPTB as the Dem's. Whole new start, thats how I feel.

specsaregood | 02-20-2009 06:54 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Harry (Post 1583890) Granted, but I think the Republican party is damn near as corrupt and every bit in the can with TPTB as the Dem's. Whole new start, thats how I feel.
No argument in regards to corruption; the problem as RP points out is that the 2 party duopoly currently has a stranglehold on the election process and makes it damn near impossible for the 3rd parties to get a toehold. RP's approach is to try to take the republican party back from the inside. Since they already have it built up. His is the pragmatic approach, yours is the approach of a rebel. I know of a number of Ron Paul supporters that have began/have run for office and are getting elected at smaller local positions as Republicans with the hopes of "moving up". I don't think it is easy to say whether your approach or Ron Paul's approach is the best method; at least we all have the same goals.

ImaCannin | 02-20-2009 06:59 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583760) :4_8_4v: Beck is and always will be a SHILL in my book. He's on mainstream media for a reason.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1583761) he's saying all the right things NOW, but i could train a parrot to say those things too
Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583786) What I keep seeing is a bunch of new GIM members who are pro-mainstream media... you want to be led to slaughter...be my guest. The guy is on FauxNEWS now for christ's sake. Wake up.:cry1:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Shield (Post 1583788) Beck is doing a good job in the msm... He was very against Ron Paul... He will be the first one to say " accept the amero" or go to the FEMA camps for safety.... Judge him as you will....
:23_30_104::23_30_104::23_30_104::23_30_104::23_30 _104: :applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_ :applause_:applause_ :23_28_100s::23_28_100s::23_28_100s::23_28_100s::2 3_28_100s::23_28_100s::23_28_100s: :emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::emotions16: Y'all are my hero's! :36_3_16:

wallew | 02-20-2009 07:21 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1583761) he's saying all the right things NOW, but i could train a parrot to say those things too
CG, If you could actually do that, you should. You might ACTUALLY get it on air once. But I sincerely doubt you could get it a national network show. Or a national radio show either.

Canadian-guerilla | 02-20-2009 07:40 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1583955) CG, If you could actually do that, you should. You might ACTUALLY get it on air once. But I sincerely doubt you could get it a national network show. Or a national radio show either.
i'm not gonna waste my time training a parrot, i'm just trying to make a point here i think he's just spouting a few cliches that people want to hear right now Beck has been a radio host his whole life, and talking about economics doesn't make him an expert i'm sure he has " consultants " to prep him on his facts before he goes on

wallew | 02-20-2009 08:09 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more CG, Everything you say is probably correct. But, ONE LONE VOICE in a sea of people saying 'everything's getting better - nothing to see - just move along' is better than none at all. The funny part is that FNC people don't seem to know quite what to make of GB. They say things like, "Well that's what Glenn Beck has said. Not that I agree with him, but that's what HE says." Hey, even if he is a shill (and I think the jury is still out on that one) and even if he did 'dis' Ron Paul (com'on - who here actually thought RP had ANY CHANCE of coming within a stones throw of the big white house) he just did a 'War Room' show this Friday that had on several people I like. Gerald Celente is an excellent guy. And Stephen from the WSJ is also fairly interesting to listen to as well. Plus a couple of the last two guys he had on with military background that will be on again were interesting to say the least. So while he may be someone you don't care for, at least he's out there beating his drum. Is he making money doing it? YOU BETCHA. But all the OTHER MSM are making this much money OR MORE and they are NOT beating this drum. Kind of like, 'You go to war with the army you have, not the army YOU WANT' type of thing. just sayin...

RoadKing | 02-20-2009 08:28 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Me personally listen/watch and can't get enough of Keith Obermann and Rachelle Madcow. Now there's some honest and fair reporting BIG ASS :sarc: I'll take Beck, any day over these talkin turds, but that's just my opinion. Actually now it's clear why I bought a pistol..... :36_1_28: RK

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:53 AM. |
Page 1 of 2 | 1 | 2 | >
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright = None use it and Link to GIM

Gold & Silver Forum - lets bash Beck some more

Page 2 of 2 | < | 1 | 2
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

Gold & Silver Forum (http://goldismoney.info/forums/index.php)
- Firearms (http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159)
- - lets bash Beck some more (http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=351439)

Weho Dave | 02-20-2009 08:31 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Glenn Beck was on a local radio station in Tampa before he hit the big time. He was right in line with all the Bush policies regarding the war and invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq at the time. I recognized he was a shill back then. When people called his show, it was customary to say "Glenn, you sick freak!" I don't know what happened to him when he went national, but he is singing a different tune now. I remain highly suspect of him. I don't know if he has had a sincere change of heart or is faking to try to cash in on the angry American demographic. But if he can wake up a few more people, that can only help.

WilliamC | 02-20-2009 09:07 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by specsaregood (Post 1583884) That may be a common sentiment but I can't really fault the guy in that respect, he is old and has worked his way into the fold where he has a stable seat at the table. And as a republican he pretty much owns his district and can remain a "fly in the ointment" that they can't get rid of; that wouldn't necessarily be true in the scenario you describe. I think he has done plenty and trust his judgement in this respect. We need to groom our own younger leaders to do what you describe; but that doens't mean they can't use RP as a role model in regards to behavior once elected.
Great summary of Ron Paul's role in the larger scheme of things. He's done tremendous work but he can no longer be the standard bearer for the libertarian cause. Other politicians with broader appeal must take up his message and maintain the same standard of integrity that Ron Paul has shown to be possible.

moreair | 02-20-2009 11:38 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by staupostek (Post 1583768) I keep seeing this trend. People gripe about how nobody will open their eyes and see what's really going on. Then when someone does come around, those same people trash them for not seeing it sooner. What good is it to spread a message if we sacrifice anyone whom we awaken?
Yep, we should be looking to add to our numbers

Shami-Amourae | 02-21-2009 07:36 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more The video doesn't seem to be working. Is there another copy?

Family Man | 02-22-2009 11:28 AM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583757) yah...exactly. How does it feel when your own family trust some yuppie jerk off on TV over you? :36_1_28:
It's always been that way. " A prophet has no honor in his own land". Remember, " Oh that Jesus, he's just that carpentar from Nazareth." :banghead:

GoldWampum | 02-22-2009 11:51 AM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583781) my point is....your family trusts someone's word who they don't know over yours....:no_ma: you enjoy that?
First, this is the case with some of my family, and not with others. Just like anyone else. In fact, my close family does trust in what i say. My answer is the same for any who may not... if it wakes them up to what I am saying, the correction is in place. I have no Godlike complex that needs satisfied. The answer to your question is not important to the bigger story. Now I'll ask you one. Is it more important to you that more people wake up and act accordingly, or that less do but they credit you for being brilliant? Either or... whattle it be Genius?

Doge | 02-22-2009 12:30 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more When it counted, Beck was against us. Facts are facts. Beck is on the bandwagon now because the writing is on the wall.

AG Capone | 02-22-2009 02:44 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1583786) What I keep seeing is a bunch of new GIM members who are pro-mainstream media... you want to be led to slaughter...be my guest. The guy is on FauxNEWS now for christ's sake. Wake up.:cry1:
I keep seeing a bunch of new GIM members who are anti-second ammendment.:wavey: I guess they want to be disarmed for the slaughter. How is Beck's support of the second ammendment part of a plot to trick the sheeples? Please explain:

Workaholic | 02-22-2009 03:01 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1586456) When it counted, Beck was against us. Facts are facts. Beck is on the bandwagon now because the writing is on the wall.
As the facts change so does the opinions. It counts NOW, too. people have a right to change their mind BTW, I'm glad beck bashers are out there somewhere, trying to enlighten the people to our current condition. :23_31_2:

latitude22 | 02-22-2009 03:15 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more He is on the bandwagon because it gets ratings, PERIOD. He's a fair weather friend and just the same as the rest of the media, they do what suits them when it suits them. You guys crack me up, it matters not what someone's actions are, but what they say. Guys like Beck and their unflinching support of the people and policies of the people that got us to this point are just as guilty as the ones that did in fact get us to this point. The heroes are the guys like Ron Paul that fought the policies and the system when it was not popular, when the damage was being done, when it did put their position and career at risk.

Workaholic | 02-22-2009 03:19 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more then beck should should shut up about it. and the sleeping sheeple can go to hell or die or both then you bashers can have your cake and eat 88it to

AG Capone | 02-22-2009 06:28 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1586745) then beck should should shut up about it. and the sleeping sheeple can go to hell or die or both then you bashers can have your cake and eat 88it to
:banana::4_1_72: :rofl::rofl::rofl::banana::111: :23_28_100s: Maybe patriots like George Noory will fill the void left behind. That's where the true Beck bashers get their news.:4_1_72:

latitude22 | 02-22-2009 08:18 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1586745) then beck should should shut up about it. and the sleeping sheeple can go to hell or die or both then you bashers can have your cake and eat 88it to
= I am taking my ball and going home cause you guys won't let me play by my rules!

Workaholic | 02-22-2009 08:24 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by latitude22 (Post 1587214) = I am taking my ball and going home cause you guys won't let me play by my rules!
I would say it is more playing the same game as some of the past posters go back and read the thread :sheep:

GreenSpirit | 02-22-2009 08:50 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more I had no idea Beck-followers were so hyper-sensitive to criticism. A bad sign.

latitude22 | 02-22-2009 08:54 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1587277) I had no idea Beck-followers were so hyper-sensitive to criticism. A bad sign.
Yer either with them or against them, there's no grey area, shock and awe and don't forget to fight the terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them over here!!!

AurumAg | 02-22-2009 09:19 PM
In defense of Glen Beck, possibly... I will offer my best defense of Beck, but don't get your hopes up: Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Glenn Beck somehow has been "awakened" in the last year or so, and he understands that he must temper his warnings with the need to appease his superiors at the network. So he hints at certain possibilities which sound plausible to We the Remnant, and we therefore gain more respect for him, because now he speaks more like one of us. Wow! Glenn Beck is really a great guy! However, if he truly were one of the Liberty Remnant, he would say, "F*ck the network, I am going to take my viewers and start my own radio, Internet, speaking circuit, and tell the whole truth instead of just the tiny specks that my editors permit." Why has Glenn Beck not taken such a leap of faith? He appears to be a man of means, and certainly has enough money to take on such a venture. His gut feelings and shaking hands may be indicative of the fact that he is engaged in subtle, but conscious deceit, on a mass-scale, and his little tremors betray the retribution which awaits the Contemporary Tory. Traitors, tools and tyrants have been divisively playing the militia for many years now, and their marketing tactics have been highly refined, documented and financed to the hilt. The modern war for hearts and minds is being waged on the TV screen, but it is a ridiculously lop-sided battlefield, and it is certainly not interactive. Scrutinize everything that comes out of the boob-tube, or better yet, simply kill your TV and start compiling your own opinions. Don't be fooled by PSYOPS.

Workaholic | 02-22-2009 09:31 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more I don't think it matters anymore. I mean, I have seen even Ron Paul being called a bought shill. But none of the bashers have a reasonable suggestion of how to school the masses. Their argument is that Beck is working for the elite. And it doesn't matter if the people are enlightened even if it comes from him (beck). I say the bashers offer no constructive positions and are in fact the enemy of the people. There comes a time, especially in this thread, where we are casting our pearls before swine.

latitude22 | 02-22-2009 09:35 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Sorry I wasn't aware that Beck was the last great hope to save the nation from itself.

GreenSpirit | 02-22-2009 09:47 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Beck is a GOP mouthpiece, like Limbaugh. When Bush and the GOP were in power, Beck was eating lunch at the White House and touting Bush's godlike reign. But now the Democrats are in power so Beck discovers the sky is falling. Beck's party wants desperately to win in 2010 and Beck's just a GOP apparatchik doing his media job.

AG Capone | 02-23-2009 12:13 AM
Re: lets bash Beck some more You notice how the folks here with the least firearms posts/experience ran over here salivating like wild dogs when they saw a post with the word "Beck" in the header. They must have really hated when Beck suggested that all Americans own a firearm. Oh the horror.... And remember that time when he came down on NOLA for confiscating the guns from the civilians, even had the Gov on the show. That must have really built up the hate inside of them. Paid shills? A moveon.org shill battalion maybe? One can only speculate. I would say at least 50% are reincarnates of their former shill selves. :moon:

GreenSpirit | 02-23-2009 12:44 AM
Re: lets bash Beck some more The thread is entitled "let's bash Beck some more," but it doesn't mention all the whining you planned on doing when we did. heh heh

renegade_01 | 02-23-2009 12:16 PM
Re: lets bash Beck some more Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1587277) I had no idea Beck-followers were so hyper-sensitive to criticism. A bad sign.
yah... no doubt...one guy on here is saying "Beck Bashers" are anti-gun. LOL :cry1: Me....anti gun. :4_1_72::cry1: Glen Beck is a bought and paid for shill. Fool me once shame on you....fool me twice... " YA FOOLED ME CAN'T GET FOOOLED AGAIN!" :getdown:

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:53 AM. |
Page 2 of 2 | < | 1 | 2
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright = None use it and Link to GIM