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StrawMan=Corporation | 04-09-2009 01:44 PM
Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Soon it will be where are your papers. Spread this far and wide people. Pelosi made it official to ABC: ‘We want registration.’ http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seatt...t-registration Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi dropped a verbal bombshell in the middle of an interview on Good Morning America April 7, and surprisingly, neither the press nor a majority of gun rights activists seemed to notice. Responding to a question from ABC’s Robin Roberts, Pelosi said that while Congress apparently does not want to take anyone’s guns away, “We want them registered.” Roberts: Under the Bush administration, you pretty much said the ball was in their court when it came to reinstating the ban. Now, it's a Democratic President, a Democratic House. So, is the ball in your court where this is concerned? Pelosi: Yes, it is. And we are just going to have to work together to come to some resolution because the court, in the meantime, in recent months, the Supreme Court has ruled in a very- in a direction that gives more opportunity for people to have guns. We never denied that right. We don't want to take their guns away. We want them registered. We don’t want them crossing state lines... Perhaps equally alarming was Pelosi’s dismissal of an amendment on the District of Columbia voting rights legislation that would expand gun rights in the city. Pelosi made the astonishing argument that the desire by District residents to have a vote on the House floor via a fully-recognized representative is “a civil rights issue.” However, in her opinion, requiring the city to recognize the right to keep and bear arms – that was affirmed by the Supreme Court last year when it struck down the District’s handgun ban – is “draconian.” “I don’t think that that should be the price…to pay to have a vote on the floor of the House,” Pelosi told ABC’s Roberts. Translation: Pelosi thinks one civil right is more important than another. During his presidential campaign, President Barack Obama supported reinstating the federal ban that expired in 2004. In Mexico, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton supported a renewal of the ban. Even if Pelosi was only alluding to so-called “assault weapons” that the Obama administration would like to ban – as acknowledged earlier this year by Attorney General Eric Holder – she certainly did not make that clear. And even if she were, gun rights activists will quickly point to California, where first there was registration and then came the ban. That ban did not prevent a scumbag named Lovelle Mixon from gunning down four Oakland, CA police officers last month, nor did a federal statute prohibiting convicted felons from having any kind of gun keep Mixon disarmed. Yet Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa has called for renewing the ban nationwide, ignoring the California law’s failure to stop Mixon from getting a gun. California has the toughest ban on assault weapons in the nation. Last month in Mexico, Holder told reporters that in the Obama administration’s effort to crack down on the alleged illegal smuggling of guns from the U.S. to Mexico, “I don’t think our Second Amendment will stand in the way of the efforts we have begun and will expand upon.” About the same time, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was reminding reporters in Mexico that she had favored a semi-auto ban while in the Senate, and that the administration is “exploring” some avenues regarding these firearms. Obviously, I am someone who supported the assault weapons ban which was passed in 1994, but it was passed with an expiration date and it expired ten years later. I, as a senator, supported measures to try to reinstate it. Politically, that is a very big hurdle in our Congress. But there may be some approaches that could be acceptable, and we are exploring those. Whether Pelosi or Holder or Clinton meant to alarm American gun owners – tens of millions of whom have never harmed a soul – their rhetoric has sufficiently aroused concerns. Considering the anti-gun track records of Pelosi, Holder, Clinton and their boss, those concerns are legitimate. While MSNBC’s David Schuster sought earlier this week to demonize these gun owners in the wake of the Pittsburgh shooting, that’s hardly the way to build consensus. There are no easy solutions, but this much is certain: Banning firearms from law-abiding citizens because criminals use guns illegally is not one of the options. Check with other gun rights examiners:

Twisted Avatar | 04-09-2009 02:31 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� REGISTRATION IS THE PRECURSOR TO CONFISCATION WHICH IS THE PRECURSOR TO GENOCIDE. YOU BETTER MAKE PEACE WITH YOUR MAKER AND SPIRIT AS TO WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO WHEN THE ORDER TO DISARM IS GIVEN. CAUSE AS SURE AS THE SUN RISES IN THE EAST AND SETS IN THE WEST........THAT ORDER IS COMING. T

Freedom1 | 04-09-2009 02:49 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Things are sure happening fast

Snake Plissken | 04-09-2009 02:50 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1670177) REGISTRATION IS THE PRECURSOR TO CONFISCATION WHICH IS THE PRECURSOR TO GENOCIDE. YOU BETTER MAKE PEACE WITH YOUR MAKER AND WITH YOUR SPIRIT AS TO WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO WHEN THE ORDER TO DISARM IS GIVEN. CAUSE AS SURE AS THE SUN RISES IN THE EAST AND SETS IN THE WEST........THAT ORDER IS COMING. T
Anything which is subject to registration is owned/controlled by the entity which it is registered with. Anyone stupid enough to register their guns should simply forego the troubles of confiscation and just go ahead and surrender their guns to the gov.org.

sirgonzo420 | 04-09-2009 02:56 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Plissken (Post 1670192) Anything which is subject to registration is owned/controlled by the entity which it is registered with. Anyone stupid enough to register their guns should simply forego the troubles of confiscation and just go ahead and surrender their guns to the gov.org.
I don't "register" my guns... and if possible I try to buy them from private sellers. However, if you want to buy a firearm from an FFL dealer, you have to fill out that damned 4473 form (and check a box that says you are a "US citizen"). If you have a lawful way around that (aside from not buying from gunstores), I'm all ears. .

Twisted Avatar | 04-09-2009 02:56 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Plissken (Post 1670192) Anything which is subject to registration is owned/controlled by the entity which it is registered with. Anyone stupid enough to register their guns should simply forego the troubles of confiscation and just go ahead and surrender their guns to the gov.org.
GET READY........

platinumdude | 04-09-2009 02:57 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Since I already sold all mines to a private party, nothing for me to register.

Twisted Avatar | 04-09-2009 03:00 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1670197) I don't "register" my guns... and if possible I try to buy them from private sellers. However, if you want to buy a firearm from an FFL dealer, you have to fill out that damned 4473 form (and check a box that says you are a "US citizen"). If you have a lawful way around that (aside from not buying from gunstores), I'm all ears.
I have spoken with several owners about this....... and two have told me point blank: IF THE GUBBERMINT MAKES THEM TURN OVER THE YELLOW FORMS THERE WILL BE A SH!T LOAD OF GUN SHOP AND WAREHOUSE FIRES THAT CANT BE EXPLAINED. The line that some shopkeepers will not cross has been drawn. T

Doge | 04-09-2009 05:15 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� I really, really hate that woman.

renegade_01 | 04-09-2009 05:25 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1670400) I really, really hate that woman.
I hate her stupid face. I hope she gets face cancer.:tongue_ma::no_ma: She is a whore who needs the pimp hand layed down her face.

Tallships | 04-09-2009 06:06 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1670415) She is a whore who needs the pimp hand layed down her face.
This is wonderful --- I laughed for 5 minutes after reading this one... :565::565::565::565::565::565::565::565::565::565: :565::adore:

Ares | 04-09-2009 06:41 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� I almost believe that is the proverbial line in the sand. I don't think gun registration is going to go over too well.

goldgun | 04-09-2009 07:27 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� I wonder what they will do when registration has no impact on the gun crime rate? Just thinking here.

Satyr | 04-09-2009 07:28 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by goldgun (Post 1670576) I wonder what they will do when registration has no impact on the gun crime rate? Just thinking here.
Step 2: Confiscation That would put the ball in our court for step 3.

CQC McDuck | 04-09-2009 09:02 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� http://www.agfc.com/!userfiles/galle...ccident_md.jpg "It can happen to anyone..."

Apocalypto | 04-09-2009 09:16 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1670400) I really, really hate that woman.
On this I agree with you, Mr. Doge.

Mill Man | 04-09-2009 09:37 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by goldgun (Post 1670576) I wonder what they will do when registration has no impact on the gun crime rate? Just thinking here.
They will villify gun owners just like they are doing now w/ the mexican cartel thing. This has nothing to do with saving lives, it always always comes down to gaining more power or more money. Always.

Fullpower | 04-09-2009 10:13 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Ban politicians... "For the children"

CQC McDuck | 04-10-2009 01:15 AM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by goldgun (Post 1670576) I wonder what they will do when registration has no impact on the gun crime rate? Just thinking here.
Registration will cause gun crime to go up. Anyone that refuses to submit/comply will, in the eyes of the state, become criminals. Increased taxes and regulation on ammunition will force many to seek cheaper "illegal" black market alternatives. Given the high risk/reward ratio, violence would likely be the norm as various organized groups would compete to become the 'prefered supplier' for consumer demand. Government would then use this as an excuse for further regulation.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 04-10-2009 01:25 AM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� SB 23 registration requirements in CA created a massive black market in this state for every make, model, and type of firearm on their list. A similar such federal law will do the same.

wallew | 04-10-2009 04:28 PM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Wow. Someone remind me NOT to stand near ANY politician in the coming weeks. I HATE having to get brain matter out of my clothess... And to think, it took less than 100 days for the new Obama administration to ADMIT they are going for gun confiscation. WOW!

Twisted Avatar | 04-11-2009 08:32 AM
Re: Pelosi made it official to ABC: �We want registration.� Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1671839) Wow. Someone remind me NOT to stand near ANY politician in the coming weeks. I HATE having to get brain matter out of my clothess... And to think, it took less than 100 days for the new Obama administration to ADMIT they are going for gun confiscation. WOW!
Did I not say he was going to move against us in the first 100?? Just wait until Eric Holder Opens his mouth........ Its gonna be a doozy. T

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