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chad | 04-21-2009 04:00 PM
the manager of my true value told me no more ammo as in, "you're not allowed to buy anymore." i have been going in and loading up once a week. they told me today not to come in anymore because i am pissing people off. :biggrin:

Tallships | 04-21-2009 04:06 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Send in your old lady next week.

Abouthadit | 04-21-2009 04:50 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo and then your neighbors.

Goldhedge | 04-21-2009 04:53 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Pissing "whom" off?

chad | 04-21-2009 04:59 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo there's a fairly regular group of people who buy ammo from this store because of its proximity to a local shooting range. i have been going in and buying all of the .22LR and .17 HMR. i guess some people have seen me do it and complained about "that guy." so, today when i went it, they told me no more ammo for awhile, they need to be able to sell to other people besides me. i took it as a badge of honor. no biggie, there's another place just down the road. :bear_w00t:

CoinHunter53562 | 04-21-2009 05:00 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo WTF....you are giving them business, and they are making money off of you. What business is dumb enough to tell a loyal, buying customer that they can no longer shop there?

chad | 04-21-2009 05:04 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo i don't really care, they were kind of funny about it. they get a lot of foot traffic from the range crowd, so i can understand. i think a lot of people pop in and buy a $3 box of .22 shells and then buy snacks, etc. i took 47 boxes of HMR the other day, so i can understand their frustration. i just thought it was funny i got banned from a store for buying stuff.

steel_ag | 04-21-2009 05:06 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo if they were smart they would attempt to engage you in your ongoing long-term requirement for ammo and base their stocking decisions to accomodate both you and other potential customers...

leadfoot | 04-21-2009 05:57 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo It's ammunism, ammo communism - make sure everyone gets some, no one gets enough.

chad | 04-21-2009 06:03 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo hahaha that's pretty good.

Heimdhal | 04-21-2009 06:07 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo I think in this case they are trying to quell dissent from other loyal customers. If you have 10 loyal customers, that always come and buy from you, but all of a sudden one out of those 10 buys up everything the other 9 want, there could be a problem. Not because you are loosing business, if 1 customer is giving you the money of what all the others combines could, its obvisouly not a money issue. But rather, those other 9 come in and buy ammo, and probably other things. Well, now they are pissed off at the 1 guy and at the store and will take their money elsewhere in the future. So the store is sacraficing 1 big bulk buyer for the constant flow, lesser flow of 9 more people. Not as dumb as you'd think.

voodoo1951 | 04-21-2009 06:20 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Could have been a little more diplomatic like limiting amounts to say 5 boxes but banning you from the store:36_1_30:...F that. I'd be sure to tell all my shooting buddies to stay away too...!!!

TomD | 04-21-2009 06:21 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Pretty funny because I saw a thread on my main shooting site just roasting Walmart because they allow people to walk in and buy their entire stock. I think your hardware store did the right thing. Why piss 9 loyal customers off to make one happy? Hoarding may make sense on an individual basis but it sure makes things worse. Damned if you do----

Twisted Avatar | 04-21-2009 06:27 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag (Post 1687990) if they were smart they would attempt to engage you in your ongoing long-term requirement for ammo and base their stocking decisions to accomodate both you and other potential customers...
Yep that was the first thing I thought........ Reduce what you buy.......but still have some set on the side for a "private sale". Everybody is doing "okay" considering the circumstances. T

Twisted Avatar | 04-21-2009 06:28 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by leadfoot (Post 1688066) It's ammunism, ammo communism - make sure everyone gets some, no one gets enough.
I gotta remeber that one. Major hat tip my Good Sir!!!

chad | 04-21-2009 06:30 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo i think the thing that really pissed them off was my HMR purchases. i have been buying ALL OF IT. i know a lot of people at the range in question shoot hmr and count on being able to get a 50 round box quick at the place. i made that impossible for the last few weeks, so i understand their need to 'ban me.' let's hope the ace hardware 2 miles away doesn't catch on!

Dzepxich | 04-21-2009 07:19 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo The manager of the store is stupid. When something sells out, you've got an understocking problem. In the retail businesses I've owned, my solution was to stock more of what sells out, after all, the goal of a retail business is to sell stuff, the more, the better.

Twisted Avatar | 04-21-2009 07:31 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzepxich (Post 1688170) The manager of the store is stupid. When something sells out, you've got an understocking problem. In the retail businesses I've owned, my solution was to stock more of what sells out, after all, the goal of a retail business is to sell stuff, the more, the better.
I would agree Brother D but these are not "normal times' by any stretch of the imagination. Online dealers are shutting down because they cant fill the back orders fast enough. Ammo Makers can not keeep up with domestic and Gubbermint demand. This is truly unprecendented .........this dwarfts the Clinton Ban by Quantum Leaps. T

ImaCannin | 04-21-2009 07:32 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Go in (or have someone go in) the day before the new shipment comes in, I bet he still has some on the shelf!

TomD | 04-21-2009 07:34 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzepxich (Post 1688170) The manager of the store is stupid. When something sells out, you've got an understocking problem.
Come on now, surely you've been paying more attention than that. Or you saying that the current ammo problem exists only because every store manager in the US is stupid and doesn't notice that his store is bought out of ammo within hours?

Twisted Avatar | 04-21-2009 07:35 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 1688188) Go in (or have someone go in) the day before the new shipment comes in, I bet he still has some on the shelf!
It is has reached a point where you have to get somebody to "cop ammo" like back in the day when you had to get somebody to "Cop a pack of smokes" Dam.

Dzepxich | 04-21-2009 07:46 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1688190) Come on now, surely you've been paying more attention than that. Or you saying that the current ammo problem exists only because every store manager in the US is stupid and doesn't notice that his store is bought out of ammo within hours?
I haven't noticed a shortage of ammo in the deep south. It may indeed be a problem at the manufacture end of the chain. How are companies that make ammo doing? I would assume that they aren't laying off people for lack of work. Surely they have been at full output for the last 8 years? (War of terror, and all that) I haven't done any research on the problem, so I can't really say where the problem is. Do the same companies that make ammo for the military make ammo for the civilian market?

TomD | 04-21-2009 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1688192) It is has reached a point where you have to get somebody to "cop ammo" like back in the day when you had to get somebody to "Cop a pack of smokes" Dam.
That reminds me of earlier days. Cartoon from long ago follows:

RaccoonRiverRadical | 04-21-2009 08:21 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by leadfoot (Post 1688066) It's ammunism, ammo communism - make sure everyone gets some, no one gets enough.
Ammunism: From each True Value according to its ability, To each libertarian militiaman according to his need.

Blorp | 04-21-2009 10:05 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Went looking for 9mm and 22 mag today. nada in stock. 2 Walmarts, Academy, etc... None. Big blank spots on the shelves again. I'm going to just order it online and deal with the 2 week back order. The last two times I've done that it has worked out OK. I can buy the "ammo mfg. cannot keep up with demand" line of thinking. But what I don't get is why are they not increasing production. This shortage has been going on for a while. Seems manipulated and/or influenced. Most businesses ramp up production when sales skyrocket.

elroy | 04-21-2009 10:10 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo I've been waiting over a month for some 9mm +P+ from OMB Police Supply. I only ordered 3 boxes.

Twisted Avatar | 04-21-2009 10:38 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Blorp (Post 1688390) Went looking for 9mm and 22 mag today. nada in stock. 2 Walmarts, Academy, etc... None. Big blank spots on the shelves again. I'm going to just order it online and deal with the 2 week back order. The last two times I've done that it has worked out OK. I can buy the "ammo mfg. cannot keep up with demand" line of thinking. But what I don't get is why are they not increasing production. This shortage has been going on for a while. Seems manipulated and/or influenced. Most businesses ramp up production when sales skyrocket.
The Ammo makers are not dumb........They will not spend those BILLIONS in profit to retool there plants when they absolutely KNOW BHO is gonna slap a excise tax, micro stamping, EPA regulations on each bullet. Demand is gonna fall off a cliff and they will be left in the red........It dont take a weatherman to see which way the wind in blowing on this one. When the hammer falls they will take those massive profits and buy a few islands in the Caymans somewhere. Cant blame them one Iota for not ramping up. T

Blorp | 04-21-2009 11:00 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1688446) excise tax, micro stamping, EPA regulations on each bullet. Demand is gonna fall off a cliff
That is not a given and I don't think it would kill demand. Some, yes, but not completely. Fact is there is high demand and little supply. And that was the situation before the election too. It ain't new. We've just depleted the reserve supplies. And I would question the billions figure for retooling. They may have some capital expenditures to increase capacity but I doubt billions to get a 20% gain or so... Billions are a lot, unless you are a bank or the USG. lol

mtnman | 04-22-2009 01:13 AM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag (Post 1687990) if they were smart they would attempt to engage you in your ongoing long-term requirement for ammo and base their stocking decisions to accomodate both you and other potential customers...
If you're not in retail sales you should be. You understand the concept, most don't.

electric-amish | 04-22-2009 08:33 AM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Blorp (Post 1688390) I can buy the "ammo mfg. cannot keep up with demand" line of thinking. But what I don't get is why are they not increasing production. This shortage has been going on for a while. Seems manipulated and/or influenced. Most businesses ramp up production when sales skyrocket.
Just in Time Supply Chain Model at work. Suppliers have know for years approx how much would be bought in a given period of time. The closer they were to selling this exact amount without any left over ment higher profit per operateing expense. The Supply Chain Top to bottom has followed the same model. This has made component manufactures as well as the Chemicle manufacturers completely empty-out of product. Thank you Zietgiest----Its the common belief that effiency is noble and good as well as smart.-----------I have come to understand it is often a sign of poverty. The most effiecent people in the world live on .30 a day. There is no arguable way to justify spending Millions on a Painting effiecent. Yet without excesses there is no Art or Beauty. No Fat for lean times. We need a big fat sloppy supply chain. E-A

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chad | 04-22-2009 08:46 AM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo well, good news, i went to the other place down the road last night and cleaned them out. i think i am now the king of .17 HMR. if you see a news story where the perp had a large cache of .17 HMR in his basement, that would be me. :ok:

CyberGold | 04-22-2009 09:26 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo So why not just put in a special order each week for a set amount and let them order that extra just for you and let everyone else have the regular stock? It ain't a game and if you were doing it in my town I'd be pissed too.

Dave Thomas | 04-22-2009 09:35 PM
Re: the manager of my true value told me no more ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by chad (Post 1688858) well, good news, i went to the other place down the road last night and cleaned them out. i think i am now the king of .17 HMR. if you see a news story where the perp had a large cache of .17 HMR in his basement, that would be me. :ok:
Please tell me you put that .17HMR through a decent gun like a Savage.

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