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Aussie | 04-04-2009 09:11 AM
ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Truth, Lies, bull shit? Read below and you decide. Kremlin reports on the extraordinary meeting held today between President Medvedev and former United States Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (under Nixon), James Baker (under Bush Sr.), Charles Shultz (under Regan), former United States Defense Secretary William Perry (under Clinton), and former US Senator and top defense expert Sam Nunn, are stating that the Americans are acknowledging for the first time their acceptance of a New Global Order in which they seek to partner with natural resource rich Russia and the oil rich Nations of the Middle East in order to ensure their survival into the 21st Century. Leading the United States to the shocking conclusion that their very survival is at risk has been the evaporation of 45 percent of the World�s wealth which has caused a rapid plunge in Global manufacturing leading to a 49 percent collapse in US trade exports which the International Monetary Fund is reported has caused the World�s economy to shrink for the first time in 60 years and has lead Canada�s Central Bank chief David Dodge to state the World is �facing a long and deep recession that will fundamentally alter the nature of capitalism�. Though Prime Minister Putin has warned that �resorting to a printing press would be unwise and extremely dangerous�, the already bankrupt United States, whose staggering debt is four times higher than their entire National income, has allowed its Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben �Throw Money Out of Helicopters� Bernanke to �create out of thin air� a further $1.2 Trillion to stabilize the American economy, but which in turn has led to the collapse of the US Dollar leading the United Nations to recommend next week that the World �ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies�. Russian economists further state in these reports that the United States has been left with �no other option� than to force the massive devaluation of the US Dollar in order to �shake lose� from banks and private investors the hundreds of billions they are currently hoarding and is being blamed for collapsing a United States where consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of its economy and which without money to borrow, or borrowers to loan to, is fast approaching the abyss. With the devaluation of the US dollar, however, massive inflation will ensue causing the value of these currently hoarded hundreds of billions of US Dollars to plummet and forcing them to be spent before they become totally worthless, a policy which China, the largest Global holder of US debt, has voiced increasing concerns about and have cut back on their purchases of American debt even as desperation hits their own factories as orders plunge. These top American Officials have also assured President Medvedev that new laws being written by the Obama administration will �completely� reform the American financial system by fully integrating it into a single Global Economy due to be enacted during the coming G-20 summit in London. When President Medvedev voiced his concerns to the Americans over his belief that the US Congress would not allow such a radical new set of laws to pass, these reports continue, Kissinger stated that the American people were being �primed� to overwhelm their lawmakers into swiftly enacting �in its entirety� the Obama administrations new banking and financial laws by the outrageous behavior of those collapsed financial giants that includes: 1.) The insurance giant AIG which after receiving over $300 billion in US taxpayer money paid out nearly $200 million in bonuses; 2.) The collapsed stock selling giant Merrill Lynch which after receiving $20 billion in US taxpayer money paid out $3.6 billion in bonuses; and 3.) The collapsed US banking giant Citigroup who after receiving $45 billion in US taxpayer money announced a $10 million redecoration of their executive office suites. News from the United States today further confirm Kissinger�s assertions to President Medvedev as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has now admitted that he had ordered US Senator Christopher Dodd to include the executive pay provision into the stimulus bill which was, in fact, a loophole allowing these controversial bonuses to be paid out. To such machinations being utilized by their supposed �leaders� against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn�t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, �By September we�ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn�t matter what we do, we�ll still be in charge�. Russian Intelligence reports state that gun ownership statistics in the United States vary widely, but is estimated to be that nearly 50 percent of US households have nearly 270 million guns, none of which these Americans seem now ready to part with without a fight. But, new reports coming from the United States show that they are fast adopting the tactics used by the German Nazis to disarm their society prior to the installation of fascist rule and martial law by first rendering all private guns useless by eliminating and restricting the ammunition they use. And from new reports coming from the United States we can see that this �plan� is already being instituted with ammunition shortages being reported in Idaho, Georgia, and Louisiana, and a new law just introduced in California which would: 1. Stop the private transfer between individuals of more than 50 rounds of ammunition. 2. License and tax anyone selling handgun ammunition commercially and force these stores to get background checks on anyone selling ammunition. 3. Get a thumbprint from anyone buying handgun ammunition. 4. Ban all ammunition sales that don�t take place face-to- face, in other words, ban mail-order sales. Even more chilling for American gun owners was the Obama administrations order to the US Military on March 12 which stated Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction.� which would have crippled the US ammunition industry, who are the largest purchasers of used military ammunition brass, but after found out about by US Senators was quickly withdrawn. To the reasons feared by the leadership class in the United States of their citizens retaining the right to firearms we can read: �As the growing world-wide economic crisis deepens, military forces from Canada, the United States, and the United Kingdom are preparing to meet angry citizens on the street. The economic crisis - and the public outrage it is causing - is at the forefront of intelligence agencies and military forces in the western world. Prominent trends forecaster Gerald Celente has been sounding the alarm for years, warning that riots and tax revolts are coming to America. The Pentagon, U. K. Ministry of Defense, and Canadian military apparently agree. In November of 2008 the United States Army War College released the report Known Unknowns: Unconventional �Strategic Shocks� in Defense Strategy Development. The report identifies economic collapse as a reason for the defense establishment to conduct domestic operations. The report states, �Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency�� The CIA and MI5 are both watching the economic situation for signs of unrest and olitical instability. As the Washington Post reports, the CIA has added an economic situation report to its threat assessment for the White House. A further sign that the United States government is anticipating widespread unrest comes with the domestic stationing of the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division. The Army Times reports, �They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.� Canadian military forces have been given a nearly identical domestic mission in a synchronized move with the United States. Canada�s National Post reports that, �The Canadian military has embarked on a wide-ranging plan to turn its reserve soldiers into focused units trained and equipped to respond to a nightmarish array of domestic threats, including terrorist �dirty bomb� attacks, biological agent containment, Arctic catastrophes and natural disasters.� Reports from the United States are also revealing that for the first time since their Civil War, active duty US Army Troops were put into the streets of Alabama after the killing spree of a crazed gunman, but which the US Army is now reporting it is �investigating� because it doesn�t know who deployed them. To whom the leadership elite in America are actually planning on protecting themselves from we can further read: �A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned. The Feb. 20 report called �The Modern Militia Movement� mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.� As to what these dangerous American terrorists can expect once they are in the custody of their US intelligence services? �The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) concluded in 2007 that US methods to extract information from prisoners at secret CIA jails as part of the �war on terror� amounted to torture.� Even worse for these dissident Americans are the chilling revelations from top investigative news journalist Seymour Hersh: �After 9/11, I haven�t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven�t been called on it yet. That does happen.� So today, as the United States �watch list� for domestic and International terrorists has hit 1 million names, in a country that already has more prisoners than any other Nation in the World, or our entire Earths� history for that matter, and as sales of weapons and ammunition are still hitting record highs in America since President Obama�s election, it would appear more than likely that the assertions of US officials to Russia that they remain in control of their country is highly doubtful�and needing just one single �spark� to plunge it into full scale civil war. And whose to say that hasn�t been their �plan� all along? [Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety. http://www.gunsandammoenthusiastblog...-tells-russia/

Aussie | 04-04-2009 09:27 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA I gotta say, I just don't see this EVER happening. The heavy hand of the US Government is becoming so obvious that it's going to become a "them" and "us" situation pretty soon and I think in the longer run the Government won't stand a chance. People are getting pissed. These guys like Kissinger and Baker are deluded. What say you?

goldmonkey | 04-04-2009 09:43 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA By: Sorcha Faal IGNORE

Po'boy | 04-04-2009 09:47 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie (Post 1662186) I gotta say, I just don't see this EVER happening. The heavy hand of the US Government is becoming so obvious that it's going to become a "them" and "us" situation pretty soon and I think in the longer run the Government won't stand a chance. People are getting pissed. These guys like Kissinger and Baker are deluded. What say you?
I don't see this happening without bloodshed. Some will give them up freely, others ,well.

Posse Comitatus | 04-04-2009 09:57 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA That would be the spark to set it in motion.Not going to happen. There going to tax the hell out of ammo/guns.It's proven,the people will put up with that.

mayhem | 04-04-2009 10:02 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by goldmonkey (Post 1662198) By: Sorcha Faal IGNORE
They never seem to learn....... Anything by her is BS period!

Agfinger | 04-04-2009 10:22 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie (Post 1662169) Truth, Lies, bull shit? Read below and you decide. Kremlin reports on the extraordinary meeting held today between President Medvedev and former United States Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (under Nixon), James Baker (under Bush Sr.), Charles Shultz (under Regan)...
Bullshit from the get-go... Charles Shultz was a cartoonist that created "Peanuts"...George P. Shultz was the Secretary of State under Reagan, (not "Regan"). If the author cannot get simple facts like that right, what makes anything else in the article believable?

gangsta99 | 04-04-2009 10:45 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA This Sorcha Faal biatch needs to be shut the fed up. Nothing but Bullshit from this person. OP any chance you will delete this post so to not clutter the firearms thread?

Twisted Avatar | 04-04-2009 10:48 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Bogus or not a few things are very clear and no one with a lick of common sense can deny it: They will tax, Register and regulate ammo n guns right out of the hands of LAW ABIDING Citizens. Better get ready........... because hard choices for the future will soon have to be made. T

dimitri | 04-04-2009 11:20 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by goldmonkey (Post 1662198) By: Sorcha Faal IGNORE
Where was the author attribution? I couldn't find it

Maddie | 04-04-2009 11:27 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by dimitri (Post 1662300) Where was the author attribution? I couldn't find it
It sounds like classic Sorcha Faal.

wallew | 04-04-2009 11:30 AM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Ya, and the USA will NEVER elect a president born OUTSIDE the USA. And we will NEVER elect a president that is MOSLEM. And we will NEVER elect a president that thinks an IPOD is a good gift, especially for the QUEEN. And we will NEVER elect a president that will take us to the depths of the Greatest Depression. NAH, the president would NEVER take away our 2nd amendment right... THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN...

Twisted Avatar | 04-04-2009 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1662310) Ya, and the USA will NEVER elect a president born OUTSIDE the USA. And we will NEVER elect a president that is MOSLEM. And we will NEVER elect a president that thinks an IPOD is a good gift, especially for the QUEEN. And we will NEVER elect a president that will take us to the depths of the Greatest Depression. NAH, the president would NEVER take away our 2nd amendment right... THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN...
CAUSE WE ARE THE USA ..............GREATEST NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH AND WE ARE DIFFERENT.

goldmonkey | 04-04-2009 12:03 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by dimitri (Post 1662300) Where was the author attribution? I couldn't find it
scroll down a bit ... http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1216.htm or, a google search for the title will return several sites posting the same article with Sorcha Faal reporting "to her Western Subscribers".

GoldBuyer123 | 04-04-2009 12:12 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1662310) Ya, and the USA will NEVER elect a president born OUTSIDE the USA. And we will NEVER elect a president that is MOSLEM. And we will NEVER elect a president that thinks an IPOD is a good gift, especially for the QUEEN. And we will NEVER elect a president that will take us to the depths of the Greatest Depression. NAH, the president would NEVER take away our 2nd amendment right... THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN...
WOW! God help us if Obama is ever caught scratching the inside of his nose. Are you a Brit?

Lars Ragnarsson | 04-04-2009 12:28 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1662310) Ya, and the USA will NEVER elect a president born OUTSIDE the USA. And we will NEVER elect a president that is MOSLEM. And we will NEVER elect a president that thinks an IPOD is a good gift, especially for the QUEEN. And we will NEVER elect a president that will take us to the depths of the Greatest Depression. NAH, the president would NEVER take away our 2nd amendment right... THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN...
Bread and circuses. Who's left on "Idol?" is about the depth of their attention. Besides, most of these dumbed-down turds probably think a global society is a good idea. And while I'm not a conspiracy nut, I've long suspected that the ammo shortage is more than just an increase in demand. C'mon, people thinking they've struck gold because WallyWorld had two boxes of Blazer Brass in 9mm? 7.62 x 39 nowhere to be found? And then this posted by Meatman: p=1662321&postcount=1 The article might be bullshit as far as who said what to whom, and the overall methods of disarmement. But I don't put any form of treachery beyond Obama and his posse.

Twisted Avatar | 04-04-2009 12:36 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1662377) Bread and circuses. Who's left on "Idol?" is about the depth of their attention. Besides, most of these dumbed-down turds probably think a global society is a good idea. And while I'm not a conspiracy nut, I've long suspected that the ammo shortage is more than just an increase in demand. C'mon, people thinking they've struck gold because WallyWorld had two boxes of Blazer Brass in 9mm? 7.62 x 39 nowhere to be found? And then this posted by Meatman: p=1662321&postcount=1 The article might be bullshit as far as who said what to whom, and the overall methods of disarmement. But I don't put any form of treachery beyond Obama and his posse.
There is a Dick sporting goods not too far from me........ They have Remmington 7.62 x39 for 18.99 a box...... I dont bat a eye or even mumble....... I grab what I can afford and keep going. Why? It is there.......I dont have to pay shipping and I get my product after purchase. I hestisated on 50Rd boxes of 9MM and the man was cleaned out IN A SINGLE DAY This is not the time to be wishy washy........get what you can afford AND KEEP IT. T

JJ_ | 04-04-2009 12:46 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Sorcha Faal or no... It would not surprise me if Kissinger did say this: Quote:
To such machinations being utilized by their supposed ‘leaders’ against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn’t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, “By September we’ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn’t matter what we do, we’ll still be in charge”.
He does after all see this economic situation as an opportunity after all.

wallew | 04-04-2009 01:56 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1662377) Bread and circuses. Who's left on "Idol?" is about the depth of their attention. Besides, most of these dumbed-down turds probably think a global society is a good idea. And while I'm not a conspiracy nut, I've long suspected that the ammo shortage is more than just an increase in demand. C'mon, people thinking they've struck gold because WallyWorld had two boxes of Blazer Brass in 9mm? 7.62 x 39 nowhere to be found? And then this posted by Meatman: The article might be bullshit as far as who said what to whom, and the overall methods of disarmement. But I don't put any form of treachery beyond Obama and his posse.
Don't watch IDOL. Sorry Lars, but it IS 'just an increase in demand'. This has been posted before, but apparently some did NOT watch it. FIREARMS SALES NUMBERS FOR 2008
FIREARMS SALES NUMBERS FOR 2008
If you can't SEE the difference, how MANY non-gun folks have decided, "well, maybe just ONE gun, with just a LITTLE ammo"... Time several MILLION adds up. Plus some of us saw this coming years ago and have been quietly sitting by as the 'feeding frenzy' in the gun markets has begun. Most will indeed just 'turn them in'. Or bury them and WON'T be part of the solution, thinking that it won't happen. IT'S COMING. LIKE BAD BREATH ON AN UGLY HOOKER.

St. Germain | 04-04-2009 02:01 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA I find it hard to get all riled up about posts like these. They can ask, demand or order all they want. They ain't gonna get anything from me. Nor most of you. And they will piss off a quiet majority just by tryin.

wallew | 04-04-2009 02:06 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Yah, waking 'THE SLEEPING GIANT' (silent majority) in THIS COUNTRY? Never a good thing. Because once being woke up, the giant has always gone on a rampage, destroying every 'bad guy' it sees. And then sometimes, gets rid of other morons, just for good measure. It won't be pretty for sure.

Twisted Avatar | 04-04-2009 02:26 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA 3 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1662478) Yah, waking 'THE SLEEPING GIANT' (silent majority) in THIS COUNTRY? Never a good thing. Because once being woke up, the giant has always gone on a rampage, destroying every 'bad guy' it sees. And then sometimes, gets rid of other morons, just for good measure. It won't be pretty for sure.
NO IT WONT.........

Lars Ragnarsson | 04-04-2009 11:29 PM
Re: ALL PRIVATE GUNS WILL BE CONFISCATED BY SEPTEMBER 2009, US TELLS RUSSIA Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1662472) Don't watch IDOL. Sorry Lars, but it IS 'just an increase in demand'. This has been posted before, but apparently some did NOT watch it. FIREARMS SALES NUMBERS FOR 2008 If you can't SEE the difference, how MANY non-gun folks have decided, "well, maybe just ONE gun, with just a LITTLE ammo"... Time several MILLION adds up. Plus some of us saw this coming years ago and have been quietly sitting by as the 'feeding frenzy' in the gun markets has begun. Most will indeed just 'turn them in'. Or bury them and WON'T be part of the solution, thinking that it won't happen. IT'S COMING. LIKE BAD BREATH ON AN UGLY HOOKER.
Okay, I stand corrected. Interesting video (good tune, too!) And after reading more gun show reports, I guess it is increased demand. And maybe more people know what's going on than I give credit for. Still, the number of those people I meet and deal with in person is miniscule compared to the clueless.... Speaking of finding Blazer Brass at Wallyworld, I was over across town and stopped there to check out the ammo. They had a bunch of .40 S&W and four boxes of 9mm. I asked for three boxes of each. The guy said, "I've only got four of the 9mm left - you might as well get it while you can." Good advice! Then he said he had just sold a whole case of it - and that there were 5 cases under the counter last night when he went home. And I got the last four boxes less than 24 hours later. And you didn't have to tell me you don't watch "Idol".... :biggrin: And I was so happy about finding that Blazer Brass, I sacrificed a goat when I got home.... :565:

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