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MilitantOne | 05-31-2009 11:22 AM
Determining ideal # of mags ? I'm curious on how everyone determines the ideal number of mags they need. I can't take credit for the idea and can't remember where I read it but it seemed like a good idea so I adopted it. # - In use # - Back up # - Deep storage Take the number you carry for use and add the same number for back up and again for deep storage. For example my AR setup I carry 14 mags. Then have 14 mags for back up and 14 mags for deep storage. Total of 42 mags. My 1911 I carry 5 mags. Then have 5 mags for back up and 5 mags deep storage. Total of 15 mags. For both BU & DS mags I vaccume pack the corresponding # of mags I carry with a couple packs of dessicants and a piece of oil impregnated paper.

meatman | 05-31-2009 11:57 AM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? 1 firearm 10 mags 1000 rds per mag its that easy

SilverCity | 05-31-2009 01:46 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Quote:
Originally Posted by MilitantOne (Post 1747019) I'm curious on how everyone determines the ideal number of mags they need. I can't take credit for the idea and can't remember where I read it but it seemed like a good idea so I adopted it. # - In use # - Back up # - Deep storage Take the number you carry for use and add the same number for back up and again for deep storage. For example my AR setup I carry 14 mags. Then have 14 mags for back up and 14 mags for deep storage. Total of 42 mags. My 1911 I carry 5 mags. Then have 5 mags for back up and 5 mags deep storage. Total of 15 mags. For both BU & DS mags I vaccume pack the corresponding # of mags I carry with a couple packs of dessicants and a piece of oil impregnated paper.
Sounds like you have plenty of mags for the weapons you listed. But, do you have back-up weapons, spare parts, repair manuals? I always figured when the SHTF, and I managed to survive the first few violent encounters, I would have additional weapons and ammo picked off the dead to be distributed to family, friends, neighbors as needed and the rest buried as cache.

AKBill | 05-31-2009 03:29 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Along with the spare parts and manuals remember that some of your weapons will require special tools like a barrel wrench for your AR or a rivet gun if you own an AK. We carry seven mag combat loads for the AR and three mags for our 1911's plus two 6 mag bandaliers one in our assault pack one in our ruck. as for deep storage use rocket boxes you can fit 100 in a box and just keep storing them like ammo you can never have two many mags

AurumAg | 05-31-2009 05:59 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? IMO YMMV: For each battle (assault) rifle, a minimum of 20 mags and 2000 rounds. For each shotgun, a minimum of 500 rounds For each handgun, a minimum of 10 mags and 1000 rounds For each boltgun, a minimum of 100 rounds Spare parts for each critical weapon (spare weapons help too), as well as rebuild parts for mags. Armorer's tools and other necessary equipment.

Posse Comitatus | 05-31-2009 07:47 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1747060) 1 firearm 10 mags 1000 rds per mag its that easy
Not a bad place to start.

Twisted Avatar | 05-31-2009 09:17 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Quote:
Originally Posted by MilitantOne (Post 1747336) SilverCity Sure do. I have parts kits for both my AR-15 and my 1911A1 As for manuals I have these for AR Colt AR-15 Semiautomatic Rifles & Carbines ( disassembly & repair ) TM 9-1005-249-10 Operator's Manual TM 9-1005-319-10-C3 Operator's Manual TM 05538C-23&P/2 Organizational & Intermediate Maintenance ( including repair parts & special tool list ) I only have Owner Manual for my 1911A1 so thats something I gota work on. Spare Weapons Glock 21 ( 9 mags ) parts kit and Armorers Manual Walther P-38 ( 9 Mags ) & parts kit Ruger GP-100 Cobray Mac-11 ( 7 mags ) Remington 700 Police Romanian SAR-1 ( 21 mags ) & parts kit Krinkov ( 7 mags ) Mossberg 590 I have others but they would not be my 1st choice in a battle weapon. On the other hand in ww2 they had a liberater pistol witch was a one shot wonder for the resistance so any gun that shoots is a good gun for battle. I also have some holes in my preps I'll be the first to admit but it is someting I will continue to improve..........
What is specifically in this kit??? I always been told have dubble or tripple redundecy on Firearms that way you can feild strip one if need be. Where do you get armor manuals??? T

SilverCity | 05-31-2009 09:29 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1747767) What is specifically in this kit??? I always been told have dubble or tripple redundecy on Firearms that way you can feild strip one if need be. Where do you get armor manuals??? T
Glock parts are available on several internet sites, I like Lone Wolf Distributing. http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=137 Sorry, I don't see a parts "kit" per se... The official Glock Armorer's Manuals are only available for certified Glock Armorers. The next best manual available anywhere (MidwayUSA has them) is the Ptooma productions: "The Complete Glock Reference Guide, Revised 3rd Edition" http://www.midwayusa.com/Eproductpag...eitemid=450536

Twisted Avatar | 05-31-2009 09:32 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? I am on it Sir. Many thanks!!! :ok: http://www.midwayusa.com/Eproductpag...eitemid=450536 T

Goldfinger007 | 05-31-2009 09:36 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? 1 more than the guy you're fighting. (sorry I couldn't resisit)

MOD1 | 06-01-2009 05:39 AM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Two of my favorite sites for literature, manuals and data: www.scribd.com Example: http://www.scribd.com/search?cx=0078...sa=Search#1253 www.everyspec.com Example: http://www.everyspec.com/specificati...sa=Search#1185 Take care, Mod1

MilitantOne | 06-01-2009 07:07 AM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1747767) What is specifically in this kit??? I always been told have dubble or tripple redundecy on Firearms that way you can feild strip one if need be. Where do you get armor manuals??? T
I was able to get the armorers manual in PDF and also printed for hard copy. Parts kits came from here. http://glockmeister.com/index.php?cPath=10 Complete Receiver Replacement Parts Kit 83.00 Complete Slide Parts Replacement Kit 112.50 Hope this helps !!! :wavey:

eat_beef | 06-01-2009 09:04 AM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? You're on the right track as to loadout+backups+spares. I prefer parts kits to be in the from of redundant comlete weapons. But, you can never have enough mags. I'm an M14 man myself, two per sealed VCI bag. http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...eef/magbox.jpg

renegade_01 | 06-01-2009 09:25 AM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1747060) 1 firearm 10 mags 1000 rds per mag its that easy
*GOLD STAR* This is a good starting point. I aim for 10 mags per pistol, and 25 mags per battle rifle. Don't forget LOAD BEARING EQUIPMENT (LBE)...I opted for a combination of ALICE and MOLLE.

Tallinthesaddle | 06-01-2009 08:57 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Would not hurt to have some of those mags loaded and ready to go, no matter how many you have. Ran across a thread last year where a guy had 250+- AR-15 30 rounders. Let's see, 250 mags X 30 rounds = 7,500 rounds. Got a ways to go on that figure!

Satyr | 06-01-2009 09:53 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Look, if SHTF like most people here are preparing (and some hoping) for, how many mags do you think you could empty before they take you down? I don't care who you are, what kind of experience you have, or how good of a shot you are. If they want you dead badly enough, it shall be so. Firearms are only a means of resistance. You could be sitting on 500 mags and 500,000 rounds and you might not hold out any longer than the guy who only has 10 mags and 1,000 rounds. It all depends on your location, numbrer of people in your house and, of course, the type of SHTF scenario which would warrant said ammo and mags. The point I'm trying to make here is that there is such a thing as having "too much". You'll never really know if you have too much. But, you'll certainly be the first to know when you don't have enough.

eat_beef | 06-01-2009 09:54 PM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? You think a guy who has that many mags doesn't have an inordinate amount loaded?:biggrin: While you're hoarding mags, don't forget to have enough ammo to fill 'em. While you're hoarding ammo, don't forget to have enough bbls to burn it. While you're hoarding bbls, don't forget to build the skills to make it count. If you should ever find yourself out of balance, ALWAYS raise to meet the highest bar. BTW, nice comment on the LBE. Get it. Use it. Figure out what works, why, why not, and what you like best. Then remember, amatuers practice until they get it right, Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.

renegade_01 | 06-02-2009 09:26 AM
Re: Determining ideal # of mags ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Satyr (Post 1749535) Look, if SHTF like most people here are preparing (and some hoping) for, how many mags do you think you could empty before they take you down? I don't care who you are, what kind of experience you have, or how good of a shot you are. If they want you dead badly enough, it shall be so. Firearms are only a means of resistance. You could be sitting on 500 mags and 500,000 rounds and you might not hold out any longer than the guy who only has 10 mags and 1,000 rounds. It all depends on your location, numbrer of people in your house and, of course, the type of SHTF scenario which would warrant said ammo and mags. The point I'm trying to make here is that there is such a thing as having "too much". You'll never really know if you have too much. But, you'll certainly be the first to know when you don't have enough.
fire and maneuver...hopefully all you fellas have a team you can rely on

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