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osoab | 11-18-2009 09:46 PM
Which 22 long rifle I need some help. I'm looking for a 22 rifle w/ scope. Something to plink with or for squirrels if things get that bad. Read some recent reviews of Ruger's 10/22 and how they are starting to use cheaper parts like a plastic trigger mechanism. I have been trying to find a used one for a personal sale, no luck on this front. So what does the peanut gallery have to say? Marlin, Remmington, Ruger, Winchester?? I don't want to spend a boat load. I want to purchase a pistol with a matching carbine probably a 357. O

Drumblebum | 11-18-2009 09:54 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Ruger 10/22 all the way brother... I have 2. Don't have any problems with the trigger mechanism, yet. My daughter (10) wanted to shoot with me so I got her a pink 10/22 with a youth stock... she loves it. There is a pic on this board somewhere... I'll look for it and get back here. I'm sure I won't be the first with that advice on this thread. RUGER... :emotions16:

EE_ | 11-18-2009 09:59 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/IMG_0966.jpg

phideaux | 11-18-2009 10:01 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle I'd rank the Marlin model 60 right after the Ruger. Same long history of reliability, plenty of spare parts and accessories, etc.

freud198 | 11-18-2009 10:01 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle ruger 10/22............

St. Germain | 11-18-2009 10:03 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle You can't go wrong with the Ruger. I have an old (50+ yrs) Remington bolt action that is fantastic. Amazing craftsmanship and materials quality, accurate and a joy to shoot. Stop by your local gun shops - You never know what little gem you will find sitting in the racks. ST

Drumblebum | 11-18-2009 10:03 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Ahhh here it is... http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...7&d=1232334063

osoab | 11-18-2009 10:03 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 2032812) I'd rank the Marlin model 60 right after the Ruger. Same long history of reliability, plenty of spare parts and accessories, etc.
I have looked @ these. Price wise, cheaper than the Ruger. Would you know how easy is it to mount a scope on the Marlin? O

hoarder | 11-18-2009 10:05 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle The disadvantage of the Ruger 10-22 is the fat stock which is needed to go around the rotary magazine without making a two piece stock. I really can't reccommend a viable alternative in a semi-auto in that price range. I've never had any malfunctions with my 10-22, accuracy is barely tolerable. If you're putting a scope on it remember that the scope mounts with tiny screws into an aluminum receiver and the barrel is not threaded. I wouldn't expect it to hold zero if bumped around. You could get a CZ bolt action .22 for about $275 and they are super accurate. Mine shoots 5/16 groups at 50 yards.

osoab | 11-18-2009 10:05 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 2032815) Ahhh here it is... http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...7&d=1232334063
Nice to see young ones out shooting. But I have to say. How do you ever go inside? O

hoarder | 11-18-2009 10:09 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle The Marlin Model 60 would be great if you could get a decent aftermarket trigger, I don't know of any. I've heard of people installing springs out of ball point pens in the triggers. That's why I don't have one anymore. The scope mounting would be the same as Ruger 10-22 except I think it has little dovetails. They hold, carry and balance a lot better than 10-22.

Government Chee-tos | 11-18-2009 10:11 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Take a look at Remington's 552.

Drumblebum | 11-18-2009 10:12 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by osoab (Post 2032819) Nice to see young ones out shooting. But I have to say. How do you ever go inside? O
I'm guessing that you like the area in the pic?

osoab | 11-18-2009 10:15 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 2032834) I'm guessing that you like the area in the pic?
Most definitely. Nice change from land of corn fields. Looks like a back yard that has some space. O

osoab | 11-18-2009 10:18 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Winchester Wildcat http://www.winchesterguns.com/produc...18C&mid=525101 Any Thoughts? I like the wood stock and the fact it is drilled and tapped for scope mounts. O

phideaux | 11-18-2009 10:20 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by osoab (Post 2032816) I have looked @ these. Price wise, cheaper than the Ruger. Would you know how easy is it to mount a scope on the Marlin? O
Don't know, mine came with the scope already mounted. It doesn't look too complicated though.

hoarder | 11-18-2009 10:29 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Here's a good place to do research http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/ I haven't perused it for a couple years but found very good info there.

SilverCity | 11-18-2009 10:40 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Ruger 10-22, Hogue Overmolded stock, 4X scope, and loaded with CCI Mini-mag HPs => penny-sized groups @50yds

Drumblebum | 11-18-2009 10:43 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by osoab (Post 2032839) Most definitely. Nice change from land of corn fields. Looks like a back yard that has some space. O
To be honest, it's not my backyard... it's in the hills near Lake Perris in SoCal. The land is known as "the rockpile" and is a popular shooting area, as there are really no ranges around the IE to shoot. Someone owns the land (there is a for sale sign near it) but no one seems interested in buying it... It's about 15 miles from my place - if anyone in the area wants to shoot with us up there , :RockOn: PM me... :bear_thumb:

tyusclan | 11-18-2009 11:12 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle I have a 10/22 and a Marlin 60. I like the detachable mag on the 10/22, but I actually like how the Marlin handles and shoots better. You can't go wrong with either.

J in AZ | 11-18-2009 11:15 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2032818) You could get a CZ bolt action .22 for about $275 and they are super accurate. Mine shoots 5/16 groups at 50 yards.
I second the CZ, I have a 452 special (a Lux w/ beech stock) and I highly recommend it.

mightymanx | 11-19-2009 01:12 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Marlin 795 it is the new and improved model 60, and its knat's ass accurate. Better trigger than the 60 and built in scope rail. the stock sights are not too shabby either.

Coltwind | 11-19-2009 01:23 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle 1890 model winchester. Name it pink. The older rifles are fun to shoot. The ammo doesn't get used up so fast either.

tanner12oz | 11-19-2009 01:49 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle bolt action savage mark II for me

Mastershakelock | 11-19-2009 01:50 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Remington 700 SPS 30-06 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/97363 You Tube
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accompanied by one of the top three scopes listed: http://www.opticsplanet.com/s/nikon+monarch/

morganchaser | 11-19-2009 01:59 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Savage laminated thumbhole stock .22. The accu-trigger is like snapping a mechanical pencil lead.

Gaillo | 11-19-2009 03:02 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle The Ruger 10/22 is OK... but if you have the resources, instead find yourself a Ruger 77/22 or CZ 452... both have served me well and put a LOT of meat on the table. Particularly the 77/22... I just can't seem to miss with that one!

farscott | 11-19-2009 06:25 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Because the OP said, Quote:
I want to purchase a pistol with a matching carbine probably a 357.
, I am going to suggest a Marlin 39A. Here is why: 1) Made from nothing about steel, walnut, and brass. The brass is the magazine tube follower. The rest of the gun is quality steel and walnut. It will last several life times. The rifle comes apart for cleaning or storage in about ten seconds. 2) Feeds and fires any .22 LR, .22 Short, or .22 Long load. 3) Marlin makes a sister carbine in .357 Magnum, the 1894C. 4) These rifles have been made in the same basic format for about 100 years. Parts are available and people know how to work on them. 5) The newer ones have the receiver drilled and tapped for a scope. Peep receiver sights are available, as are XS iron sights. 6) These can be found used. I bought my daughter a used 39A for $250 a few years back.

.41Dave | 11-19-2009 11:32 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Definitely a +1 for the Marlin 39A. To add the farscott's list of advantages, the Marlin 39A also has a well deserved reputation for accuracy.

Doge | 11-19-2009 12:01 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Agreed with farscott. Marlin 39A: http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Images/photo_39A.jpg http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear.../Golden39A.asp

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TTAZZMAN | 11-19-2009 03:08 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle As stated before the Ruger is extremely popular with its modular design and detachable magazine and tons of aftermarket parts (after spending several $ my ruger is now as accurate as my marlin was out of the box) The marlin is in my opinion one of the most accurate low cost 22 autos right out of the box you can buy (wish it came with a detachable magazine) To the guy who asked Marlins (at least mine) has a dove tail grove machined into the top reciever to recieve 3/8 dovetail scope mounts (my marlin is old i assume the new marlins come this way also) Personally i think as stated before by others...Rugers/Marlins are the way to go unless your looking for something special

mightymanx | 11-19-2009 04:19 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 2034064) (wish it came with a detachable magazine)
The Marlin 795 does come with a detachable 10 round magazine. http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...oading/795.asp IMO It's the fix to everything you did not like about the 60.

tanner12oz | 11-19-2009 04:21 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle ill be out tomorrow with the savage looking for squirrels and bunnies

osoab | 11-19-2009 06:54 PM
The Verdict Well, First of all, I appreciate all of your comments and suggestions. I stopped by the local gun shop this afternoon. I looked @ the 10/22 @ $235 and the Marlin 60 @ $175. After holding both of them, looking them over, Drum Roll Please, The Marlin 60 Wins Reasons: I got long arms, I think I can modify the stock length much easier than the Ruger. With a $40 scope added, I was still below the price of the Ruger. I preferred the color of the wood. I wanted a semi-auto for a plinking gun, didn't see a need for a bolt action for the use. I know I have a tube and not magazines. I guess I will have to keep extra clips full for my pistols.:bull-smile: I wanted to save a few bucks to add the .357 Marlin Carbine, which will be my next purchase. Dealer says he can't get them in. They are on order, though. So for those of you with the Marlin 60, have you had any issues with the 22 shorts or 22 longs? Dealer said that those two can be troublesome, but the 22 LR run fine. Has anyone added to the length of the stock? On a side note, I think I just found a gun club to join. They have a 300m rifle range. :23_30_104: Once again, thanks everyone your thought helped alot.:applause_ O

hoarder | 11-19-2009 07:08 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle You can't go wrong at that price.....unless you're intending to use the Marlin 60 on the 300M range.

osoab | 11-19-2009 07:29 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2034470) You can't go wrong at that price.....unless you're intending to use the Marlin 60 on the 300M range.
I was going to try air pistol @ 300m. Hopefully I have a tail wind.:cry1: O

Ag_man | 11-19-2009 07:31 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Here's a gadget that makes loading a tubular magazine a snap! http://www.cabelas.com/p-0012788222343a.shtml http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/c...?$main-Medium$

phideaux | 11-19-2009 08:11 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Congrats on the Marlin 60. I've only fired 22LR. Never had a misfire or jam, no matter the brand.

TTAZZMAN | 11-19-2009 09:46 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymanx (Post 2034227) The Marlin 795 does come with a detachable 10 round magazine. http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...oading/795.asp IMO It's the fix to everything you did not like about the 60.
I see it does .....mine is the old tubular magazine, i didnt even dig it out to check the model # but it has been a best bang for the buck gun for me for sure......yes a clip would make it perfect for the $

hoarder | 11-19-2009 09:59 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle I'd go for the tubular magazine because the detachable mag is obtrusive. It seems like it would be a lot easier to carry the former with one hand, not having the mag in the way. Possibly balances better, too.

Patriotme | 11-19-2009 10:04 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle I've had a Ruger 10/22 for about 10 years. I purchased a second one about 2 months ago for my daughter to shoot as "Her gun." She moved up from a bolt action Marlin 22 and loves the Ruger. I really can't see any difference in quality between the 10 year old model and the new one. I'm satisfied with Ruger. I've been hearing stories about Ruger quality dropping since the old man died. I've also heard stories that quality is dropping across the board from all manufacturers as they rush to produce enough guns to meet demand (Obama buying). I don't know how much is true. I've bought 4 guns from 4 different manufacturers this year and all have been fine guns.

Pat | 11-27-2009 06:27 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle For semi-autos the Ruger will never be as accurate as the Marlin but the Marlin is a bitch to strip and clean. I like the compact Ruger, for a 50 yrd gun its hard to beat.

Absintheur | 11-28-2009 01:03 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat (Post 2047153) For semi-autos the Ruger will never be as accurate as the Marlin
All depends on what you are will to do to the Ruger...My target Ruger (the one on top in the pic) will out shoot just about anything except other customs and will give many of those a run for their money. http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...r1959/1022.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...newest1022.jpg The bottom one was built to be very light but it still shoots MOA.

rhoggman | 11-30-2009 11:16 AM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Someone asked about the Winchester Wildcat earlier on.... Just wanted to follow up because I own one. Extremely accurate. I use CCI Stingers and Aguilla SuperMaximumHighVelocity.... at 50 yards Im stacking the holes on top of each other. Comes with 4 magazines. Easy to take down the bolt and clean. I never used without a scope so I cannot speak for the iron sights. I threw a Bushnell Banner on it, and I cannot believe how great this little gun has become.

<SLV> | 02-02-2010 04:34 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoggman (Post 2051152) Someone asked about the Winchester Wildcat earlier on.... Just wanted to follow up because I own one. Extremely accurate. I use CCI Stingers and Aguilla SuperMaximumHighVelocity.... at 50 yards Im stacking the holes on top of each other. Comes with 4 magazines. Easy to take down the bolt and clean. I never used without a scope so I cannot speak for the iron sights. I threw a Bushnell Banner on it, and I cannot believe how great this little gun has become.
I just ordered a Winchester Wildcat Target / Varmint from CDNN for $199 + 15 (ship) + $25 (transfer) + $15 (tax) = $255.00. After debating all of the options, I settled on this model because it has a bull barrel, match chamber, target crown, hardwood stock, cut checkering, no sights (grooved as well as drilled / tapped), adjustable trigger, dual front sling studs, and 4 magazines. It is just a re-branded TOZ, and whether or not you like Russian guns, they are accurate. There were two things I didn't like: 1. I don't like the fact that the trigger/magazine housing is plastic. I decided that polymers are light-weight, durable, and here to stay, and I might as well accept that. But it looks bad next to wood. 2. I understand that the stock is hit-and-miss on the finish quality. I'm already thinking that I'll end up stripping and refinishing it. One gun store told me that the one they saw had globs of stain on one end and the wood was bare on the other. On the other hand, some people say they get a gorgeous piece of wood. One guy I talked to said he paid a premium at a high-priced store because they had one with nice wood. Anyway, I'll start a thread on my rifle when I get it in and set it up with a bipod and Simmons 22mag 4x32 scope. Maybe even some before and after stock photos (depending on whether it is acceptable or not -- of course anything less than excellent is unacceptable :wink:). http://www.winchesterguns.com/produc...mg/525101l.jpg

UncaScrooge | 02-02-2010 04:43 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle My prejudiced choice is: the Ruger CHARGER. 10" barrel (you CAN get after-market barrels in 12").... and VERY maneuverable in close quarters!!! Second choice: the Cricket 22 rifle... in PINK!!! No one will "see you coming" LOL!!! :bull-smile:

osoab | 02-02-2010 05:36 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2159136) I just ordered a Winchester Wildcat Target / Varmint from CDNN for $199 + 15 (ship) + $25 (transfer) + $15 (tax) = $255.00. After debating all of the options, I settled on this model because it has a bull barrel, match chamber, target crown, hardwood stock, cut checkering, no sights (grooved as well as drilled / tapped), adjustable trigger, dual front sling studs, and 4 magazines. It is just a re-branded TOZ, and whether or not you like Russian guns, they are accurate. There were two things I didn't like: 1. I don't like the fact that the trigger/magazine housing is plastic. I decided that polymers are light-weight, durable, and here to stay, and I might as well accept that. But it looks bad next to wood. 2. I understand that the stock is hit-and-miss on the finish quality. I'm already thinking that I'll end up stripping and refinishing it. One gun store told me that the one they saw had globs of stain on one end and the wood was bare on the other. On the other hand, some people say they get a gorgeous piece of wood. One guy I talked to said he paid a premium at a high-priced store because they had one with nice wood. Anyway, I'll start a thread on my rifle when I get it in and set it up with a bipod and Simmons 22mag 4x32 scope. Maybe even some before and after stock photos (depending on whether it is acceptable or not -- of course anything less than excellent is unacceptable :wink:).
Sweet. I just got my scope dialed in about 2 weeks ago. It was cold, but well worth it. How many in the mags?

Bill843 | 02-02-2010 06:13 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle I haven't looked at 22LR rifles in a few years now really, and the 10-22 wins the accessories game hands down--but the CZ rifles had a HUGE reputation for cheap accuracy over on rimfirecentral. That said, a 10-22 can shoot very accurate with only a barrel and hammer change, and no special gunsmithing tools are needed. -------- Somebody mentioned the Ruger Charger: I don't have one/haven't shot one, but will say that it is more useful than it might seem. This type of gun (a long-barrel pistol with a rifle scope on it) has been very popular for airgun field-target shooting for a long time now. People in that hobby would take a Crosman 2240 CO2 pellet pistol and add a much-longer barrel, a bigger CO2 tank and put a rifle scope on it, and found that it was about as accurate as a rifle, but a lot more convenient to carry around. The prime example is the Mac-1 LD. This type of airgun got to be so popular in field-target shooting that after a six or seven years of it dominating the results, Crosman started selling a long-barrel version of the pistol themselves. It can be shot offhand if need be, but for best results you shoot it two-handed or off a rest (in airgun field-target shooting [as in the real world] you can use any shooting stance you want). -end-

Irons | 02-02-2010 06:51 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle 1 Attachment(s) I'm liking this one at the moment, fun, accurate as heck and it still scares the city folks!:banana: It's the first 22 rifle I have bought in years. Attachment 86641

<SLV> | 02-02-2010 07:06 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill843 (Post 2159290) I haven't looked at 22LR rifles in a few years now really, and the 10-22 wins the accessories game hands down--but the CZ rifles had a HUGE reputation for cheap accuracy over on rimfirecentral.
I've never thought of the CZ as being cheap. The Trainer starts at $350. The CZ is one of the finest sporter rimfires on the market. I'd say it and the Ruger 77/22 are tops on my list, but too much for my budget to justify.

<SLV> | 02-02-2010 07:08 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by osoab (Post 2159243) Sweet. I just got my scope dialed in about 2 weeks ago. It was cold, but well worth it. How many in the mags?
1 5-rounder and 3 10-rounders. Last Saturday I filled a couple mags for my Buckmark pistol and plinked at some leftover pumpkins from 40 yards. I just had an itch I had to scratch. bancha

J in AZ | 02-02-2010 07:19 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2159357) I've never thought of the CZ as being cheap. The Trainer starts at $350.
Wow, a big jump in price on the CZ trainer, if I remember correctly I paid $235 for mine a few years ago.

<SLV> | 02-02-2010 07:22 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by J in AZ (Post 2159374) Wow, a big jump in price on the CZ trainer, if I remember correctly I paid $235 for mine a few years ago.
If I could find one for that price I would buy it. RRArms has it for $357.22, but then you have to pay $40 for shipping and transfer. The only one near me is at Gander Mountain for $395. The 452 American's are around $500.

Ag_man | 02-02-2010 08:11 PM
Re: Which 22 long rifle Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2159357) I've never thought of the CZ as being cheap. The Trainer starts at $350. The CZ is one of the finest sporter rimfires on the market. I'd say it and the Ruger 77/22 are tops on my list, but too much for my budget to justify.
I agree 100% both are very fine rifles, but I don't see what a CZ or Ruger can do that my Marlin 965 bolt gun can't do. Paid $155 and I'm very satisfied with it. Fairly plain furniture, but it still has a centerfire feel to it and I have no complaints about accuracy. Perhaps one day I'll be in a position to spend $350+ on a .22 rifle without regrets, but today ain't that day.

<SLV> | 02-02-2010 08:25 PM
Re: The Verdict Quote:
Originally Posted by osoab (Post 2034442) Well, First of all, I appreciate all of your comments and suggestions. I stopped by the local gun shop this afternoon. I looked @ the 10/22 @ $235 and the Marlin 60 @ $175. After holding both of them, looking them over, Drum Roll Please, The Marlin 60 Wins Reasons: I got long arms, I think I can modify the stock length much easier than the Ruger. With a $40 scope added, I was still below the price of the Ruger. I preferred the color of the wood. I wanted a semi-auto for a plinking gun, didn't see a need for a bolt action for the use. I know I have a tube and not magazines. I guess I will have to keep extra clips full for my pistols.:bull-smile: I wanted to save a few bucks to add the .357 Marlin Carbine, which will be my next purchase. Dealer says he can't get them in. They are on order, though. So for those of you with the Marlin 60, have you had any issues with the 22 shorts or 22 longs? Dealer said that those two can be troublesome, but the 22 LR run fine. Has anyone added to the length of the stock? On a side note, I think I just found a gun club to join. They have a 300m rifle range. :23_30_104: Once again, thanks everyone your thought helped alot.:applause_ O
Let me know how that gun feeds for you. I've seen some threads where people have had jamming problems with the Marlin 60. Then again, from what I've been told, the Marlin 60 and Ruger 10/22 are the two most popular rifles at Appleseeds. I'm very sold on bolt-action .22s. It is not a serious defensive/battle caliber, so I'm not sure why you would need to shoot real fast. I'm more interested in accuracy (plinking/hunting) with .22lr so I prefer the solid action that a bolt provides.

Ag_man | 02-02-2010 08:42 PM
Re: The Verdict Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 2159465) Let me know how that gun feeds for you. I've seen some threads where people have had jamming problems with the Marlin 60. Then again, from what I've been told, the Marlin 60 and Ruger 10/22 are the two most popular rifles at Appleseeds.
Many years ago, I had a Glenfield 60 .22 (cheaper version of the Marlin 60). It was a complete jam-o-matic, to the point where I threw the damn thing into the river, in a fit of stupid rage. Lately, I've read about the Marlin 60 and it seems that most people have had a very good experience with them. If I saw one at a good price (less than a 10/22), I might consider adding it to my .22 collection. With the tube mag loaders available now, I would reconsider it. <SLV>, I also like shooting bolt action .22's. I had a good time last fall squirrel hunting, first time I used a bolt .22 in over 30 years.

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