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Professur | 03-13-2008 05:03 PM
Alternate armament Some of us live in places and situations where supplies of firearms are either limited, illegal, or both. I'd be interested in hearing what others in this situation are doing to prepare for their defense. My personal armoury ranges from the medieval to the exotic. Several bows, recurve and compound supply my 'reach out and hurt someone' capacity. The compounds are capable of a pass through at 50 yards, and quiet enough to let you get off a second shot if you need it. Close in requirements come from a well practiced staff, several long blades, and some heavily modified (and probably illegal) air supplied projectile launchers. I take solace in the fact that few others around me are any better supplied, and most of them like me.

The Argent Dragon | 03-13-2008 05:40 PM
Re: Alternate armament Alternate #1 : Butcher's knife from the kitchen ! :D http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/PICT1044.jpg

The Argent Dragon | 03-13-2008 05:40 PM
Re: Alternate armament Alternate #2 : USMC survival knife :wink: http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/PICT0088.jpg

Twisted Avatar | 03-13-2008 05:45 PM
Re: Alternate armament CRacking up AD!!!........ But on a serious note I would also see about getting SLINGSHOTS....a really high quality one with strong torque those things can be deadly. if you use something like nuts or bolts as the projectile. Also ballistic knives could be REALLY NASTY and brass knuckles for close quaters combat T

eyeofliberty | 03-13-2008 06:13 PM
Re: Alternate armament I've got a 7 foot spear, two bows, a nice slingshot, lotsa knives, and I've trained in martial arts since age 5. I also wear a belt every day. Makes a great improvised weapon on the quick... ...as long as my pants stay up! :D

LiquidFactor | 03-13-2008 06:15 PM
Re: Alternate armament I thought he was serious.

Mumwaldee | 03-13-2008 06:29 PM
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mike77777 | 03-13-2008 06:32 PM
Re: Alternate armament rolled up copy of forbes magazine, poke em in the eye! broken bottle pulled from trash can, very intimidating, squirt gun filled with ammonia, poor mans mace! double bit camp axe, be the life of the party!, for stand off capability, i believe the all time favorite is the sling, carry in pocket, unlimited supply of ammo[ any rock or bit of metal], devastating ,quiet,lethal. five iron is good in urban setting, just ask for directions to the nearest miniture golf range if stopped by the police! for the canadians, a good supply of hockey pucks and a stout hockey stick, ouch those things hurt!

Libertarian_Guard | 03-13-2008 06:33 PM
Re: Alternate armament It depends on how primitive you wish to be. Legend has it that the cave man did quite well with a large club. He may have also employed it as a tool for gathering his mate, versatility should always be consideration.

graspAU | 03-13-2008 06:37 PM
Re: Alternate armament OP, you sound like you are doing quite well considering your surrounding resources. I keep the glock within reach at night, but a few feet away is a Gerber camp axe as a backup!

Twisted Avatar | 03-13-2008 06:39 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1009972) I've got a 7 foot spear, two bows, a nice slingshot, lotsa knives, and I've trained in martial arts since age 5. I also wear a belt every day. Makes a great improvised weapon on the quick... ...as long as my pants stay up! :D
LMAO!!!!........ yeah swinging that buckle could be a nasty weapon T

Twisted Avatar | 03-13-2008 06:48 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1010016) rolled up copy of forbes magazine, poke em in the eye! broken bottle pulled from trash can, very intimidating, squirt gun filled with ammonia, poor mans mace! double bit camp axe, be the life of the party!, for stand off capability, i believe the all time favorite is the sling, carry in pocket, unlimited supply of ammo[ any rock or bit of metal], devastating ,quiet,lethal. five iron is good in urban setting, just ask for directions to the nearest miniture golf range if stopped by the police! for the canadians, a good supply of hockey pucks and a stout hockey stick, ouch those things hurt!
I like that amonia thingy........ sound REALLY nasty!!.....plus I was cracking up at your ingenuity!! T

hypervel | 03-13-2008 06:56 PM
Re: Alternate armament I've heard of the belt thing, but if I tried it.....Man, I thought we'd get into Tasers PDQ on this one. The newest offerings look good for what they are. Marketed to women, wink wink. Apparently the majority of purchasers are men. Not yet regulated in many places.

graspAU | 03-13-2008 06:56 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1010016) double bit camp axe, be the life of the party!
No lie. I went to a party once where a band was playing at this house about 18 years ago. The neighboor came over for a while and was nice. About 3 hours later when the room the band was in was packed like sardines, he comes in drunk with an axe and starts hacking up the drum set. You should have seen about 150 people all trying to fit through 1 sliding glass door at the same time. People went in the neighbors house after he ran away, dragged him out, and beat him to an inch of his life in his own driveway. Cops came everyone scatterd. Helicopters and everything.

Riskfactor | 03-13-2008 07:02 PM
Re: Alternate armament the only alternate armament i think is necessary is knowledge of hand-to-hand combat. i'm surprised there isn't a thread on this. although i could be wrong.

Riskfactor | 03-13-2008 07:05 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1009888) Alternate #1 : Butcher's knife from the kitchen ! :D http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/PICT1044.jpg
LOL, AD. i like the addition of the coin in the pic. nice touch. :bull-buddy-icon:

Professur | 03-13-2008 07:09 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1009888) Alternate #1 : Butcher's knife from the kitchen ! :D http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/PICT1044.jpg
I double dog dare you to go ahead and cut it in two.

mike77777 | 03-14-2008 12:03 AM
Re: Alternate armament pretty high quality steel, may take a while to cut that cleaver in two! forgot to add earlier the eskimo ulu knife. if your eskimo wife is drunk and mad at you do not approach her if she has one of these babys in hand!

studiopaul | 03-14-2008 12:17 AM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1010060) I like that amonia thingy........ sound REALLY nasty!!.....plus I was cracking up at your ingenuity!! T
I just have an electronic tickertape outside that shows the falling economy! Usually brings them to their knees, crying! :sarc: Really though!,, I have a basement industrial lock up recording studio, it looks like something out of a cold war movie,, iron doors, need to work on a clean air nuke system! " someone left a police baton that has become my friend for getting bands to pay up for the sessions!

SilverCity | 03-14-2008 12:48 AM
Re: Alternate armament 2 Attachment(s) How about the .50 caliber Dragon Slayer pellet rifle...:wink: http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/Career_...-dragon-50.htm Dragon Slayer Single Shot .50" caliber Dragon precharged air rifle. Beautiful hardwood chequered stock. Rubber butt pad, new side-lever action, built-in air pressure gauge and quick-fill receptor port. Rifle has no open sights. A scope and mounts of your choice can be shipped with the rifle or installed at our gun shop. Number #1 choice for big game hunting enthusiasts.

PMan | 03-14-2008 06:17 PM
Re: Alternate armament 1 Attachment(s) Picked this sweet baby up in Laos a few months back.

Canadian-guerilla | 03-14-2008 06:35 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by PMan (Post 1012025) Picked this sweet baby up in Laos a few months back.
that is nice Pman how is that for distance/accuracy how accurate is that at 50-60 ft ?

smullen | 03-15-2008 02:16 AM
Re: Alternate armament I have many Shuriken, knives, a few swords, Kamas, Kasari-Fundo, and a few other primitive weapons that I used to practice with years ago... I have them pack away in Totes for now... I have thought about breaking them out to start practicing again.

WAoG | 03-15-2008 03:11 AM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1009888) Alternate #1 : Butcher's knife from the kitchen ! :D http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/PICT1044.jpg
That is not a butcher knife!! A meat clever has always been one of my favorite weapons. Their is one with in a few feet from me at all times in the home. You could not see one if you were standing next to me, but its there:-) I lived with one so thick that I believed it would stop most or all handgun ammo or I could deflect it. I would sleep next to that baby. I also like diving knives. I have slept with those before also. I'm not that brainy when it comes to electronics. But they have these real nice lasers that are hand held but kind of pricey. I bet a smart person could alter one of these to be very dangerous. They are very dangerous already. Just one shot:-( I would love to have a really dangerous hand held laser that would fire multiple Bursts. Less than a thousand bucks. I'm sure that it can be done right now by a smart person.

SAUM | 03-15-2008 10:50 AM
Re: Alternate armament There is a youtube out there someplace that... Here it is. YouTube - Modify Your Laser Pointer
YouTube - Modify Your Laser Pointer

NOOB | 03-15-2008 11:59 AM
Re: Alternate armament Lock in a sock.

Silver Shield | 03-15-2008 12:03 PM
Re: Alternate armament 1 Attachment(s) Even in the most gun hating state you can get a shot gun. That is the best zombie killer.

PMan | 03-18-2008 03:15 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1012049) that is nice Pman how is that for distance/accuracy how accurate is that at 50-60 ft ?
I haven't shot it much, it might be good for rodent control. More of a novelty than a formidable weapon. I'd be lucky to get 1 foot groups at 50 feet.

TomD | 03-18-2008 03:49 PM
Re: Alternate armament One of my knives, it's insanely sharp. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...lackSable2.jpg

jaybone | 03-18-2008 04:05 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Shield (Post 1012969) Even in the most gun hating state you can get a shot gun. That is the best zombie killer.
Not true, ever been to NJ?

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Fullpower | 03-23-2008 07:42 PM
Re: Alternate armament Firenhole: I am not sure what is going on here. I assure you I have absolutely no intent to cause you harm in any way. I will see if my wife can figure out what mayhem I may have caused. Please understand that I wish to cause no problems, and I apologize if I have done so. regards, Dean EDIT: I have removed my BAT link, deleted the post. it was a link to a humorous parody.... probably wont be missed. sorry it caused you trouble. cheers. Dean

Firenhole | 03-23-2008 07:50 PM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1025836) Firenhole: I am not sure what is going on here. I assure you I have absolutely no intent to cause you harm in any way. I will see if my wife can figure out what mayhem I may have caused. Please understand that I wish to cause no problems, and I apologize if I have done so. regards, Dean EDIT: I have removed my BAT link, deleted the post. it was a link to a humorous parody.... probably wont be missed. sorry it caused you trouble. cheers. Dean
Thank you Dean I will send you the address the link sent me too, I am also sorry this even became an issue. BRuce

walker10 | 03-24-2008 05:16 AM
Re: Alternate armament I go with an automatic baton. Cut the handguards off, makes for a fairly compact package and very impressive when you take the safety off, hit the button and it extends to full length. Used to at least be used by Korean cops. Very effective too. http://budk.com/images/250/6553_1.jpg http://budk.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_07+BK6553

Cassandra | 03-24-2008 08:39 AM
big dogs I'm partial to German Shepherds, but there are plenty of other breeds that make great guard dogs. Functions as both defense, offense & alarm, rolled up into a cute, furry, loyal package. Acts independently even when you're not around to use your weapons.

____hoot____ | 03-24-2008 08:21 PM
Re: Alternate armament Surprizeing what you can do very quickly with a shovel. I prefer a sharpened #1 round point, not the heavier common #2. My weapon of choice to fit into a "weapon-less" society.

sluggo | 03-24-2008 08:44 PM
Re: Alternate armament EZ Off Oven Cleaner is great when mace isn't available.

sluggo | 03-24-2008 08:49 PM
Re: Alternate armament Windshield wiper blades hurt pretty damn bad, too.

walker10 | 03-25-2008 04:28 AM
Re: Alternate armament Going with the auto theme...collapsible car antennas also make good improvised weapons. Use the kind with the barrel at the top, not the little ball (easier to grasp and extend in a hurry). If a mugger comes at you, extend it and wave it as fast as possible in a figure eight motion instead of using like a whip. Every hit yourself in the hand with a metal coat hanger? Really hurt, huh?

glenpatton | 03-25-2008 09:33 AM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 1009801) Some of us live in places and situations where supplies of firearms are either limited, illegal, or both. I'd be interested in hearing what others in this situation are doing to prepare for their defense. My personal armoury ranges from the medieval to the exotic. Several bows, recurve and compound supply my 'reach out and hurt someone' capacity. The compounds are capable of a pass through at 50 yards, and quiet enough to let you get off a second shot if you need it. Close in requirements come from a well practiced staff, several long blades, and some heavily modified (and probably illegal) air supplied projectile launchers. I take solace in the fact that few others around me are any better supplied, and most of them like me.
Go to you local martial arts supply store, They will have every legal weapon allowed in Canada. Some of them are really cool. I use rising sun in edmonton. Picked up a telescoping steel baton that weighs 5 lbs, That baby will break any bone in your body.

Professur | 03-25-2008 09:54 AM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by glenpatton (Post 1028219) Go to you local martial arts supply store, They will have every legal weapon allowed in Canada. Some of them are really cool. I use rising sun in edmonton. Picked up a telescoping steel baton that weighs 5 lbs, That baby will break any bone in your body.
Actually, I went to the annual hunting and fishing show .. and quite a lot of what was for sale wasn't legal at all in quebec. That telescoping steel baton for example, is illegal here, as were the brass knuckles. But then, the tire iron I carry beside my car seat is illegal. I've been warned about not only that, but my tool belt with it's large-ish screwdrivers and drywall saw hanging within arm's reach.

Mumwaldee | 03-25-2008 04:44 PM
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Professur | 03-25-2008 04:48 PM
Re: Alternate armament That looks awful familiar, but my handle is yellow. Used extensively on older HP laser printers.

Baldwin | 03-26-2008 11:20 PM
Re: Alternate armament This is the premier retail sword line. THe only better swords are made by smiths. This sword can cut through decent tree trunks and rolled mats. This will take off limbs and heads with ease.

Mumwaldee | 03-27-2008 12:57 AM
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Infidel | 03-27-2008 01:31 AM
Re: Alternate armament check your state as to legality of how long of a blade you can carry without them thinking you are an axe murderer. Also application of force should be proportionate in some states where there is no castle doctrine. Or if you are outside of your house. Some states have a "duty to retreat"

Pragmatist | 03-27-2008 02:42 AM
Re: Alternate armament Inventors claim to turn 300 microwaves into megawatt energy weapon Posted Oct 23rd 2006 3:20PM by Cyrus Farivar Filed under: Misc. Gadgets, Household http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...xplode_sml.jpgIf you happen to have say, 300 microwaves kicking around between you and your friends, it turns out that you'd have a large part of the ingredients necessary for a pretty substantial weapon. That is, according to two New Mexican inventors, who recently filed a patent for a "high-power microwave system employing a phase-locked array of inexpensive commercial magnetrons." Translated into English that basically means that these guys claim you can combine the magnetrons (the bits that generate the actual microwave that cooks your popcorn) from a bunch of consumer-grade microwaves and tweak 'em a bit to develop a megawatt-level death ray, or in military/legal parlance, a "directed energy weapon system." Yeah, we've seen energy weapons (or tools, if you prefer) before, but this is probably one of the first times that we've seen ordinary kitchen technology more complicated than a knife turn into a seriously lethal weapon. http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/i...t-energy-weap/ Muh-ha-ha-ha ~Prag

Glass | 03-27-2008 04:20 AM
Re: Alternate armament Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatist (Post 1031240) Inventors claim to turn 300 microwaves into megawatt energy weapon Posted Oct 23rd 2006 3:20PM by Cyrus Farivar Filed under: Misc. Gadgets, Household http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...xplode_sml.jpgIf you happen to have say, 300 microwaves kicking around between you and your friends, it turns out that you'd have a large part of the ingredients necessary for a pretty substantial weapon. That is, according to two New Mexican inventors, who recently filed a patent for a "high-power microwave system employing a phase-locked array of inexpensive commercial magnetrons." Translated into English that basically means that these guys claim you can combine the magnetrons (the bits that generate the actual microwave that cooks your popcorn) from a bunch of consumer-grade microwaves and tweak 'em a bit to develop a megawatt-level death ray, or in military/legal parlance, a "directed energy weapon system." Yeah, we've seen energy weapons (or tools, if you prefer) before, but this is probably one of the first times that we've seen ordinary kitchen technology more complicated than a knife turn into a seriously lethal weapon. http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/23/i...t-energy-weap/ Muh-ha-ha-ha ~Prag
spooky, I was thinking just a couple of days ago that this must be possible somehow... maybe my tin foil hat is transmitting again. Did they publish their plans? I didn't see anything on the link. Round here they have 2 x yearly rubbish chuckouts where everyone throws their crap on the street verge and then everyone rumages through other peoples crap for 2 weeks until the council picks it all up. lots of microwaves and other deadly weapons for free... I wonder what you can do with a washing machine :wink:

Mumwaldee | 03-27-2008 04:23 AM
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Jonas Parker | 03-27-2008 12:41 PM
Re: Alternate armament Beaucoup years ago as a kid, I went to summer camp in Canada. On of the items I purchased at the camp store was a Pevey (sp?) cruising ax with a leather cover for the blade. I put an edge on that ax that I could shave with. I also became quite proficient in throwing it to a distance of about 25'. The ax was lost several moves ago, but I always figured it would be a great weapon to throw at a MZB coming uninvited through my front door... you know... "Hey, buddy! Catch!" "Thunk!"

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