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renegade_01 | 11-13-2008 04:35 PM
Will 50cal uppers be banned? Do you guys think there will be a ban on the uppers? I'm debating on grabbing a ferret50 lower and get the upper later down the road. I sure would like to have a 50 and then have my team use the AK platform for support fire... should the NEED arise.

The Argent Dragon | 11-13-2008 04:40 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? I don't think the 'uppers' will be banned - just the completed rifles (primarily the semi-autos). I'm in the same boat and would luv to get my hands on a 50-cal with AK, FAL, and 8mm Rifle support fire........if the need, etc, etc. :wink:

renegade_01 | 11-13-2008 04:42 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1414430) that is some pricey support fire. And well yes, 50 cal is on the ban list, so if the ar goes, so goes the 50.
The support fire would be the AKS...the price factor would come in at the cost to feed the 50. Or can we cast those too?

The Argent Dragon | 11-13-2008 04:45 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1414442) The support fire would be the AKS...the price factor would come in at the cost to feed the 50. Or can we cast those too?
I think the 50-cal Ammo right now is a great buy with French Surplus going for around $3.50 per round........was $5.99 per round just last year. It's definitely a very long range and anti-vehicle weapon. Not to mention hitting targets behind walls and barriers.

StrawMan=Corporation | 11-13-2008 04:48 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Not all 50 caliber rifles but 50 BMG is banned in the PRC and as it seems if a federal AWB would take on some parts of the California AWB it will take on all of the aspects of it. Hence YES 50 BMG and all other 50 calibers will be banned. If you have any fantasy about getting one of the 50BMG uppers get it now while you can. Getting it later will be either more expensive, illegal or both.

The Argent Dragon | 11-13-2008 05:44 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Quote:
Originally Posted by StrawMan=Corporation (Post 1414453) If you have any fantasy about getting one of the 50BMG uppers get it now while you can.
Keyword there.........fantasy, dream, etc. That's THE whole problem right now. I'm trying to purchase guns now that will most likely get banned - yet without the threat I'd wait a few years. It really sux, because if you've been dreaming that 'someday' I'll buy.........well, TIME IS UP BUDDY ! Someday is either now or NEVER. :banghead: Obama is FORCING citizens to arm up via Fear. Thanks, -O :rant:

StrawMan=Corporation | 11-13-2008 05:59 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? I know what you mean. I have been buying and selling Colt 1911's for the last 10-15 years or so but never bought one for myself. Always a Sig or a HK or a FN. I recently found a pre ban Colt 1911 Officers ACP in brushed stainless steel. I bought it on the spot. Next is another Sig Sauer P229 in 40SW/357 Sig.. I think this makes 4 of those now. Quote:
WTS: Sig 229r .40 with .357 sig replacement barrel I'm selling my sig 229R .40 with 357 sig replacement barrel. The gun is in good to excellent condition has night sights and will come with 3 mags. I have the sig blue box and all the accessories that came with. I"m looking to get 600 for the whole thing.
Oh and the AR57 That's on its way from Washington State. BTW who else wants one of these ? I know a place that gets stock on a regular basis. Check the gun boards to learn about this item. It fires the 5.7 x 28 round like the P90, PS90 and the FN 5.7 pistol. http://www.57center.com/ http://www.57center.com/uploaded/ima...r_final_04.jpg Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1414558) Keyword there.........fantasy, dream, etc. That's THE whole problem right now. I'm trying to purchase guns now that will most likely get banned - yet without the threat I'd wait a few years. It really sux, because if you've been dreaming that 'someday' I'll buy.........well, TIME IS UP BUDDY ! Someday is either now or NEVER. :banghead: Obama is FORCING citizens to arm up via Fear. Thanks, -O :rant:

The Argent Dragon | 11-13-2008 06:04 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? http://www.militarygunsupply.com/sho...flattop57a.jpg larger image AR-57 Upper Receiver coming soon! $695.00 TROY ARMS AR-57 upper drops on a standard AR-15 lower and converts your gun to shoot the FNH 5.7x28 cartridge using FN-P90 50 round magazines. First ever, revolutionary top load bottom eject system sends the spent brass straight down through the AR magwell. Designed with reliability as its primary feature. There is no gas system to become clogged with carbon or fouling and maintenance is a snap. The bolt and chamber stay clean through extended shooting sessions. The rails are precisely milled from a monolithic block of aircraft grade 7075 T6 aluminum with type III Teflon infused annodization. Any sighting systems mounted on the rails will stay zeroed through the toughest of missions. Note- this item is in extreme allocation, with all product going to Military Gun Supply and Amchar Wholesale. Orders will be processed and filled on a first come first served basis as supply allows. http://www.militarygunsupply.com/sho...32otmhubirj6q5 :10_1_20:

AZLiberty | 11-13-2008 11:46 PM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? I'd say there is a pretty good chance that 50 BMG is on the list yes? Go with the Safety Harbor upper instead of the Ferret.

StrawMan=Corporation | 11-14-2008 12:26 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Thanks TAD now the quest is finding a few cases of ammo on the cheap. Beyond the already needed 223 and 308.

Darkside | 11-14-2008 12:32 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? The laws I've been seeing them try to pass in my state they want to ban 50 cals but they have the added touch of no grandfather clause- which means when they make it illegal it will be illegal not only to buy them from that point on but it will even go after people who currently own them. Yep got Nazis in my state.

TTAZZMAN | 11-14-2008 01:05 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1414589) http://www.militarygunsupply.com/sho...flattop57a.jpg larger image AR-57 Upper Receiver coming soon! $695.00 TROY ARMS AR-57 upper drops on a standard AR-15 lower and converts your gun to shoot the FNH 5.7x28 cartridge using FN-P90 50 round magazines. First ever, revolutionary top load bottom eject system sends the spent brass straight down through the AR magwell. Designed with reliability as its primary feature. There is no gas system to become clogged with carbon or fouling and maintenance is a snap. The bolt and chamber stay clean through extended shooting sessions. The rails are precisely milled from a monolithic block of aircraft grade 7075 T6 aluminum with type III Teflon infused annodization. Any sighting systems mounted on the rails will stay zeroed through the toughest of missions. Note- this item is in extreme allocation, with all product going to Military Gun Supply and Amchar Wholesale. Orders will be processed and filled on a first come first served basis as supply allows. http://www.militarygunsupply.com/sho...32otmhubirj6q5 :10_1_20:
not sure what you mean by the "First ever top load bottom eject" system....there have been several produced over the years...... a example would be all of the Calico Firearms models. but those sure look like intresting uppers to say the least

StrawMan=Corporation | 11-14-2008 01:26 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Maybe he means in a AR platform, or were there others in the past using the AR base to build from ? And I always thought I wanted a Gas Piston AR. It would be awesome if they could use this idea with the 223 round. Also somewhat like the Calico but not in a pistol round. From what I have seen with the AR57 they took the magazine and built around it. Ill be sure to give a range report after Ive put it through its paces. I expect to have it in my hands by the end of next week. I feel like a kid in a candy / gun store. Quote:
Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 1415332) not sure what you mean by the "First ever top load bottom eject" system....there have been several produced over the years...... a example would be all of the Calico Firearms models. but those sure look like interesting uppers to say the least

goldwish | 11-14-2008 05:55 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? one prob with the AR57 is if you mount a scope then mag changes could be a big problem. I've yet to see a pic of one with a scope. got any?

The Argent Dragon | 11-14-2008 08:45 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Quote:
Originally Posted by goldwish (Post 1415474) one prob with the AR57 is if you mount a scope then mag changes could be a big problem. I've yet to see a pic of one with a scope. got any?
http://www.57center.com/uploaded/ima...00x800.jpg?e=1

the toxic avenger | 11-14-2008 09:00 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? With the AR57 a reloader could take the spring and follower out of an old AR mag, cut the feed lips off the mag body with a dremel tool, and use the modified mag body as a brass catcher.

eat_beef | 11-14-2008 09:13 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? An honest question... Why would anyone want a AR57? It seems to me all you're getting is low/no recoil and bigger capacity, but you're giving up cheap/available ammo, and a whole pile of power. All out of the same rifle. Neither the cartridge or platform do anything for me.:shrug:

The Argent Dragon | 11-14-2008 09:17 AM
Re: Will 50cal uppers be banned? Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1415646) Why would anyone want a AR57? It seems to me all you're getting is low/no recoil and bigger capacity, but you're giving up cheap/available ammo, and a whole pile of power. All out of the same rifle.
Bullseye, eat_beef ! ........I got your biggest capacity + cheap ammo right here and it packs one helluva punch !!! :wink: http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg42_02.jpg BELT-FED 8mm

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