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bigbuber | 08-26-2009 03:32 PM
Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo It's called the Ammunition Accountability Act (AAA). You've got to love the name. It sounds so noble. But remember the great gun writer, Mel Tappan's, universal rule of law: "The nobler the language, the more nefarious the purpose of any legal instrument." It's been proposed in 18 states and, with some minor difference among them, here's what it will do once enacted: Each box of ammo you buy will have a unique number. Each round in the box will have a laser-etched number on the base of the bullet and on the inside of the cartridge case that corresponds to the number on the box. Each time you buy ammo you will have to show ID with your name, date of birth, driver's license, etc., to be recorded so the box will be tied to you. There will be a 5� tax on each and every round in the box. This "tax" will be to support the database. You will have to maintain records if you give or sell ammo to relatives or friends. (And the above tax would be levied on each round, again, to maintain the database.) Anywhere from four months to three years after such bills are enacted, depending on the state, it will be illegal to own any uncoded ammo. There will be civil and criminal penalties if you possess any with fines of anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 for each instance of violation. Ostensibly, this will mean $1,000 to $5,000 per round. Forgot you got an old box of .22 ammo on the back shelf of the closet? And the well-meaning but snoopy babysitter finds it...and turns you in... You're going to have to dump it or shoot it all up. And you'll get no compensation for any of the old ammo you have to dispose of. It will be illegal to reuse cartridge cases, so reloading will not be an option, and you're a criminal if you do. -----for the rest of the article: http://www.backwoodshome.com/article...eira116lw.html

Heimdhal | 08-26-2009 03:35 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo Its been dead in the water for some time. For now, this particular threat is a mute one. Keep an eye on it, but dont expect it to go anywhere for a while.

Twisted Avatar | 08-26-2009 04:54 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo Even if it passed. Only a fool will comply. T

randymatt | 08-26-2009 05:02 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1887894) Even if it passed. Only a fool will comply. T
Also see the "Register your chicken and chip implant it" thread

elroy | 08-26-2009 10:35 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo This bill is not in line to be voted on and wouldn't pass anyway. However, as this goofball administration passes more laws advocated by their extremist liberal socialist base, the laws will be ignored by the people. At that point the goofball socialist gooberment will either have to ignore the law breakers or try to enforce all of their BS laws. This is when we find out just how bad they really want to implement their agenda and if they are willing to imprison and kill a considerable number of American citizens.

gangsta99 | 08-27-2009 01:03 AM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo Been dead forever. The company who has the patents for this technology was the only group trying to push for this to happen. Even dirty politicans didn't even consider this a threat.

mick silver | 08-27-2009 01:17 AM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo i am to the point i dont give a

moreair | 08-27-2009 01:47 AM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo What can I saw that you are not already thinking?

Teoskin | 08-27-2009 01:11 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo Any truth to this? > I guess > we could figure this was > coming................... > > > With all the smoke and mirrors about "cash for > clunkers" and the Healthcare Bill. This will be > far more > dangerous............. > > > Just for your > Information................ > > This > bill will -NOT -become public knowledge - UNTIL > -30 days after it is voted into > LAW. > > Subject: > HR45 - Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on > our 2009 1040 > federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may > require > fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was > introduced on > Feb.. 24. This is an amendment to > the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. > This means that the Finance > Committee can pass this > LAW without the Senate voting on > it at all. > > The full text of the proposed amendment is on the > U.S. Senate homepage, http://www.senate.gov/ - search by the > bill number, SB-2099. > > http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text > > > Congress is now starting > on the firearms confiscation bill. If it > passes, lawful gun owners will > become criminals if they do not > fully comply. > It > has started. Very Important for you to be aware of a new > bill HR 45 > introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm > Licensing > & Record of Sale Act of 2009. > Even gun shop owners didn't know > about this because the government is trying to fly it under > the radar. > To find out about this - go to any government website and > type in HR > 45 > or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing > & Record of Sales Act > of 2009. You will get all the information. Basically this > would make it > illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY > pistol > unless: It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You > supply a current > Driver's License -You supply your Social > Security # -You will submit to > a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their > choosing - > Each > update change of ownership through private or public sale > must be > reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically > lose the > right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in > jail. -There is > a > child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a > child-access > provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child > under 18. - They would have the > right to come inside your house without your permission and > inspect that you are storing your gun > safely away from accessibility to > children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in > prison. > > If > you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your > pick of many > options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and > more people > are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any > hunters > in > your family pass this along. This is just a > "termite" approach to > complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society > to the point > we have no defense - chip away a little here and there > until the goal > is > accomplished before anyone realizes it. > > This is one to > act on whether you own a gun or not. If you take my gun, > only the > criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes > me/us less > safe. > > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45: ; > > http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show ; > > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45 ; > > Please.. > copy and send this message to EVERYONE you know, whether > you support > the Constitution of the United States and > the 2nd Amendment for the > Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms, as I do, or favor > gun control > and a different form of government. The consequences of > this > legislation cannot be under estimated.

Abouthadit | 08-27-2009 03:35 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo short answer: NO. go to http://thomas.loc.gov and see that there is no such bill number. Blair Holt is another thing.

randymatt | 08-27-2009 03:58 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Teoskin (Post 1889421) > Basically this > would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip...
good to know, since all my rifles take magazines...:biggrin:

Heimdhal | 08-27-2009 04:04 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo ok. For anybody thats REALLY worried about this, I will store your ammo for free. Just send me a couple of boxes and I will make sure no-one ever lays a hand on them. Especialy if you have a .45 ACP :)

gypsybiker45 | 08-27-2009 06:19 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo The way i see this panning out is that the Feds will squeeze the ammo companies (after all they ARE corporations and could give 2 S***s about us) and tell them they HAVE to serialize the ammo then weasel it into the States one at a time, slowly. any ammo company that doesnt comply will lose those big DOD contracts. any states that refuse will have revenue sharing problems, like AZ did with the MLK holiday.

southfork | 08-27-2009 07:34 PM
Re: Because they failed to take away our guns, they're coming after our ammo I hope they can catch .

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