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Twisted Avatar | 11-21-2008 05:48 AM
What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I want stock up suppiles now just trying to see what others recommend. How do you feel about the oils that are sprayed from a can?? (remmington come to mind) I know Hoppes and Kleenbore have good reputations I see that they have BIG bottles of solvent and Lubrication (Hoppes)around. Thanks in advance. T

gbgunner | 11-21-2008 06:23 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I use all kinds of stuff. WD-40 for initial start of cleaning. It's cheaper than aerosol solvents/cleaners. This is used in combo with blue paper shop towels and patches. After that I'll use Birchwood Casey Gunscrubber. I'm told break cleaner is nearly the exact same stuff. A friend uses brake cleaner on his Class III weapons. Depending on whether I'm storing for longer term or whether I'm shooting again in a few days I'll then protect and lube with either TW-25 grease, oil, and aerosol. When I'm feeling cheap and know my gun isn't going to suffer any abuse between the next cleaning I'll use Breakfree.

gbgunner | 11-21-2008 06:24 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I try and stay away from the Hoppe's oil in the little orange bottle. It appears to gum up over time.

brewer | 11-21-2008 06:43 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Ed's Red 1 part Dexron II ATF 1 part mineral spirits 1 part Acetone 1 part kerosene I use the metal Qt cans ( like what the acetone comes in)with a duct tape label for storage Make sure the caps on on tight or the Acetone will evaporate. Most effective when the barrel is still warm. It's a cheap enough solvent that I sometimes give away Qts to my shooting friends.

Twisted Avatar | 11-21-2008 06:46 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? mmmmmmmmmmm I see. Nobody bothers with that spray oil??? Come to think of it..........you can use WD-40 on your firearm without ill effects?? T

ruprick | 11-21-2008 07:00 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? For external metal......get yourself a coffee can and keep a few cloth shop towels in it....cover them up with the plastic lid.....oil the rags up and they stay oiled....you can just pull one out now and then and wipe your clean gun to keep it protected. I clean bores/actions with paper towels and wd-40 and if I need solvent...hoppes sometimes mineral spirite. Buy hoppes by the quart...lots of them....store away...put what you need to use in a smaller jar with lid.....like a mason jar for jelly or a baby food jar. I have a quart of hoppes that is over 30 years old.....good to go.

gbgunner | 11-21-2008 07:05 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1427851) mmmmmmmmmmm I see. Nobody bothers with that spray oil??? Come to think of it..........you can use WD-40 on your firearm without ill effects?? T
Rups suggestion of the oil rags is good. I have some Rem spray oil but it's just part of my supplies. Spray oil might be too pricey for the more frugal gun owners. The TW25B aerosol I use is a grease that needs to be wiped off afterwards.

Willie Peter | 11-21-2008 07:37 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? What do you guys think of CLP/Breakfree? Good enough to use as an all-in-one cleaner, lubricater?

farscott | 11-21-2008 08:03 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I clean with whatever freebie CLP I get at a match. Have used them all; they all do just fine. In a pinch, I have even cleaned and lubed with Mobil 1 5W-30. For really dirty guns, I use brake cleaner. Just be sure to remove all of the plastic; otherwise, the brake cleaner will do a number on it. For bad copper fouling or any suppressors, I use Kroil, a penetrating oil which gets under the fouling. Then it becomes easy to brush it away. Do not use Hoppe's on a nickel plated gun as the solvent will attack the copper under the nickel, causing the nickel to flake.

foolsgold | 11-21-2008 08:09 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Box O truth Shotgun cleaning procedure. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu9.htm

silverJeep | 11-21-2008 08:24 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I use WD-40 to get the gunk off. Then wipe everything down. Then use Tetra gun oil and grease to lube it up.

CrufflerJJ | 11-21-2008 08:38 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1427851) mmmmmmmmmmm I see. Nobody bothers with that spray oil??? Come to think of it..........you can use WD-40 on your firearm without ill effects?? T
I would avoid WD40 if possible. That, and other penetrating lubes (Kroil, PB Blaster,...) run the risk of deactivating primers in your ammo. NOT GOOD. WD40, over time, will also turn into a varnish on metal surfaces. Many moons ago, as a wee-li'l student slave-assistant in a University laser lab, we used WD40 to coat the steel tops of vibration isolated tables. Spray it on, smear it around, and over time, you'd have a varnished surface. That's not what I want on a weapon. I normally use some sort of a copper removing bore cleaner (Hoppes, Shooter's Choice, Butch's Bore Shine), then follow it with some Breakfree/CLP for lubrication & rust protection. An advantage to Hoppes is that it will also clean up after corrosively primed ammo (and it also smells good!). It's not an aggressive copper cleaner like some others (Sweet's 7.62, for example), but it does a pretty good job. I don't use spray oils much at all, though they would be handy for getting oil into "nooks & cranny's" you couldn't reach with an oiled rag. The only "spray oil" I've tried using in the past is Boeshield T-9. This is an EXCELLENT protective coating to prevent rust on steel, but their spray can packaging just plain sucks. The cans lose pressure over a year or less. The product itself is great, just the packaging is lousy. Another good product for rust prevention is Eezox (available in squeeze bottles or spray). Breakfree/CLP is a good overall oil, and I use it myself. It is NOT something that will do a good job of dissolving/removing copper from a bore. Something I've heard about, but never tried, is MPro-7, which is water based. It's supposedly a great bore cleaner, without all the nasty chemicals. I've got a 12 oz spray can of Gunslick foam bore cleaner on its way from Grafs to try out. I've never tried a foam bore cleaner, but also hear that they do a good job on cleaning out powder/copper residue. We'll see!

EE_ | 11-21-2008 09:00 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Hoppes #9 bore cleaner Shooters Choice Quick Scrub Break-Free CLP Best products I've found and have used for many years!

<SLV> | 11-21-2008 09:12 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? BreakFree CLP (non-aerosol) and Hoppes Bore Snake.

Abouthadit | 11-21-2008 09:13 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Hoppes #9 Ballistol

mayhem | 11-21-2008 09:22 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Easy to choose from the above as most are great. I use what EE said. Quote:
Hoppes #9 bore cleaner Shooters Choice Quick Scrub Break-Free CLP
But then I own AK's and I don't need no cleaning stuff.... Ha, ha...

renegade_01 | 11-21-2008 09:26 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Normally I use Hoppes no.9 to clean fouling and Break-free to lube and wipe down. Breakfree is some good stuff. In a pinch I've used brake cleaner, but it can leave a light film that needs to be wiped off with a oily cloth. Great for bores though!

<SLV> | 11-21-2008 09:30 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 1427896) What do you guys think of CLP/Breakfree? Good enough to use as an all-in-one cleaner, lubricater?
It's all I use. However, I don't like the aerosol -- it really stinks, and the can runs out fast. Doesn't anyone else use the Hoppes Bore Snakes? I have one for each caliber -- they are EXCELLENT! http://www.hoppes.com/products/ca_boresnakes.html http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/s...res/392819.jpg

mayhem | 11-21-2008 09:35 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1428023) It's all I use. However, I don't like the aerosol -- it really stinks, and the can runs out fast. Doesn't anyone else use the Hoppes Bore Snakes? I have one for each caliber -- they are EXCELLENT! http://www.hoppes.com/products/ca_boresnakes.html http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/s...res/392819.jpg
At least a dozen of them. They are a 10 in my book. Lube one up on the range after the barrel cools slightly. Makes cleaning at home a lot easier.

SLV>GLD | 11-21-2008 10:07 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? There was a thread earlier this week where several users espoused the virtues of the bore-snake. I picked up one for each caliber which wasn't so bad because the 380 one does 9mm, 38 and 357 as well. I haven't gotten to try them out yet. The only concern I see is having a nasty snake to store. I use Brak-Kleen inside bores and on a toothbrush in receivers (this shit will eat paint right off). I use Tetra grease on metal to metal contact such as slides, bolts and magazine spines. I use Break Free-CLP for everything else including the furniture. I keep a silicone rag to wipe down the firearm if I decide to handle it but not shoot it. That's it, nothing more needed other than some patches and some old rags. Edit: The aerosol Break Free is too hard to manage without serious waste. I recently switched to the hand sprayed variety and it works much more efficiently.

graspAU | 11-21-2008 10:12 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1427997) BreakFree CLP (non-aerosol) and Hoppes Bore Snake.
+1 - You could clean your guns with this this combo for a long time. Also q-tips with a little CLP on them get into about every little hiding place.

SLV>GLD | 11-21-2008 10:17 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by scottp999 (Post 1428097) Also q-tips with a little CLP on them get into about every little hiding place.
There are lots of hiding places. Recently, I was upgrading an extractor and discovered the insane amount of gunk that had accumulated in the channel cut into the bolt for the extractor retaining spring. I spent a good 10 minutes with a CLP soaked toothpick and some deft swinging and tapping the thing to get it cleaned to my satisfaction. Granted, I won't be removing the extractor for regular cleanings, but it will keep me paranoid where all the little hiding places are that I haven't found yet. :36_1_25:

teedub31 | 11-21-2008 10:36 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Take this for what it is worth. I use this method after having it explained to me and have used it as the only way that I clean my guns (interior barrel wise). I never use any pertolueum based products inside the barrel of any of my guns. I only use hot (scalding water and soap) and lube the barrel with a ntural fat like vegetable oil or animal fats. Why?? When you add heat to a petroluem product, you basically produce tar that collects in the riflings of a barrel. The all ntural products don't produce the gunk when heated. The use of these products and cleaners like Thompson Center Solvent #9 and Bore Butter also allow you to "season" your barrel mcuk like a cast iron skillet. This produces a barrel that is much much easier to clean. I have been using this cleaning method soley (sp??) for almost 15 years with nothing put awsome results, granted this is done with big bore revolvers, muzzleloaders and shotguns, not high performance battle rifles. I do use petroleum oils on the exterior portion of my firearms and trigger mechanisms.

latitude22 | 11-21-2008 10:48 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? i use the spray oil, i never use solvent, just clean with the oil

Argentsum | 11-21-2008 10:51 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I usually use Break free and Birchwood Casey Gunscrubber. I imagine some people can get theological about what to use but for myself its merely a matter of cleaning out the carbon and keeping away the rust. Overcleaning can be as bad as not cleaning.

JJ_ | 11-21-2008 11:01 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? CLP Hoppes No9 Brake cleaner (=Birchwood Casey stuff fer a hekka lot cheaper) Rem Oil. vairies by firearm - but clp goes on most all of em.

wallew | 11-21-2008 11:45 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? UH ... Two things... First is on the 'Box O Truth' the guy is using an aluminum cleaning rod. I won't even discuss his use of tampons. Using an aluminum cleaning rod is BAD JUJU for sure. I'm also sure that's what MOST people use. Instead, if you are a shooter that does his own cleaning, try a fiber cleaning rod, as they will NOT mar the inside of any barrel you run it down. Here's the link to the one's Brownells sell. http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...LEANING%20RODS Second is that I've used MOST of the products listed. I like Hoppes for cleaning, but I'm old school. To ME it almost smells like a perfume for men. But for lubrication, I only use PROLONG. They now sell it in a squeeze bottle (called Rays Gun Oil) to refill their needle type applicator. It's a teflon coated based lube and I've found it to be the best stuff ever made for guns. Use it sparingly. Here's the link. http://www.prolongsales.com/index.ph...df7goesh8a6gd5 As a caveat, I ALSO use their automotive additives and it has kept me from walking home at least once that I know of.

teedub31 | 11-21-2008 11:53 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1428257) Instead, if you are a shooter that does his own cleaning, try a fiber cleaning rod, as they will NOT mar the inside of any barrel you run it down.
I may be wrong (yeah it has happened once or twice), but the claim that an aluminum rod marring a steel barrel is a little hard to believe. Aluminum is much much softer then the steel found in a barrel. If anything the harder steel would scratch and mar the Al rod before the aluminum rod would damage the barrel.

Lt Dan | 11-21-2008 12:26 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Break-Free bore cleaner for cleaning. Break-Free CLP for lubricating especially semi-autos. One piece fiber cleaning rod at home / Otis system at the range (fits in a pocket or my range bag). I've tried about all and these have worked out the best you me for general cleaning.

farscott | 11-21-2008 12:27 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? The issue is that the aluminum is so soft that it can embed a hard particle, like a piece of silica or a hard oxide, that can damage the barrel steel. It is also the same reason why serious revolver shooters use muzzle guides to insure a rod does no contact the very important and very vulnerable crown.

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farscott | 11-21-2008 12:31 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
... other penetrating lubes (Kroil, PB Blaster,...) run the risk of deactivating primers in your ammo.
Yeah, keep Kroil out of actions. It is fine for barrels and suppressors but has no place in actions. It is the best thing ever though for cleaning suppressors. Nothing else gets rid of the lead, especially from the .22 suppressors.

Lt Dan | 11-21-2008 12:33 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by farscott (Post 1428340) The issue is that the aluminum is so soft that it can embed a hard particle, like a piece of silica or a hard oxide, that can damage the barrel steel. It is also the same reason why serious revolver shooters use muzzle guides to insure a rod does no contact the very important and very vulnerable crown.
Muzzle guides, forgot to mention that very important item in my cleaning kit. Wouldn't think of not using one when cleaning from the muzzle.

Twisted Avatar | 11-21-2008 02:10 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Dosent Hoppes cleaning kits comes with two bottles?? One the bore sovlent and the other to Lubricate?? Why is everybody just talking about the #9 bottle?? T

hypervel | 11-21-2008 03:42 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1427997) BreakFree CLP (non-aerosol) and Hoppes Bore Snake.
SPOT ON!!! :565: I also have an airbrush full of CLP to hose down without much waste.

TomD | 11-21-2008 05:37 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I've entered hundreds of rifle competitions over the last 18 years, of 5 different disciplines, spent 10's of thousands of dollars on equipment and seen the ultimate the industry has to offer. When you get around very expensive rifles and people who are serious about winning, you'll notice that aspects of cleaning techniques are very similar. In competition, a good barrel is the edge, you may have to go through several before you find a good one. When you do, it has to be protected. There are a couple of pictures below of one of my rifles, this one is used for benchrest. First it is sitting in a cleaning cradle, there are cheaper ones available than this but they perform the same function. They hold the rifle stable and barrel down. That last part is important, you don't want gunky cleaning fluid flowing out of the barrel into your trigger and action. Sooner or later that will be a problem. As a personal touch, I connected an empty Vihta Vouri powder can where it would catch the patches. Next and very important is the bore guide. You can see it coming out where the bolt would be. Bore guides are caliber specific and center the cleaning rod in the bore to keeps it from rubbing against the inside of the barrel. Take my word for it, you don't want that to happen. Thirdly, the cleaning rod itself. As Wallew said, no two-piece aluminum!!! I've seen one-piece stainless, coated and carbon fiber with proponents for each. Shown is a Dewey stainless. Methodology? In competition circles, the old school of rifle cleaning is universal. That would be with a cleaning rod, a brass jag, bronze brushes, solvent and patches. There is a shot of that below. As for the cleaning solvent there are a number but my favorite is shown. If you shoot jacketed bullets, you will need a solvent that will dissolve copper. Copper buildup is a major accuracy killer. The unlabeled plastic bottle is a mix of Kroil and Hoppes that I use for bore brushing. The Bore Tech is so aggressive against copper that it dissolves the bore brush. If anyone is interested, the pictured rifle was made from individual components for me by a gunsmith who specializes in rifles like this. The Action is a Viper Drop Port, it is smooth beyond imagination and when the bolt is pulled back, the fired brass drops straight down. The stock is an "Edge" by McMillan made of carbon fiber and weighing almost nothing, trigger by Jewell, barrel a Bartlein in 6 MM chambered in 6 PPC, scope rings by Kelbley's and a March Scope. The accuracy of rigs like this is orders of magnitude better than almost anything else on earth. You can centerpunch a fly on your target 200 yards away. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...om/rifle-2.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...om/rifle-3.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...rom/rifle1.jpg

Tallships | 11-21-2008 05:44 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Brake cleaner and WD40.

flying | 11-21-2008 06:39 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1428887) There are a couple of pictures below of one of my rifles, this one is used for benchrest. First it is sitting in a cleaning cradle, there are cheaper ones available than this but they perform the same function. They hold the rifle stable and barrel down.
Man that is a very nice setup! What is the brand of cradle? Here is what I use & have used for years. An uncle gave it to me & I have used it ever since. Still have more than half a gallon there http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...8_11210005.jpg

Elvis | 11-21-2008 07:04 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? For the love of guns, please don't use varnish on them (WD-40). CLP attracts dust/sand like a flippin' magnet: http://www.defensereview.com/modules...rticle&sid=377 Sure, you can suck petroleum fumes, or for a non-toxic cleaning (for those who are near guns a lot and hate breathing that crap, having it soak into you...) http://www.mp7.com/ This totally takes all lube off them, and other stuff, so you need to lube with something that will penetrate. It's so non toxic, read the MSDS. The MPro7 lube is good, but better is: http://www.militec-1.com/ * MILITEC-1 treated weapons have been tested and proven to be more accurate, deliver higher muzzle velocity with the same load, and show decreased wear at all critical wear points. Also, the weapons subjectively "feel" better in blind tests. * MILITEC-1 has a very low evaporation rate and will not dry out and "disappear" like MilSpec CLP. Firearms remain properly lubricated for a much longer period of time. In fact, MILITEC-1-treated firearms can even be taken out of extended storage and fired immediately with no additional care. It seems to be an unfortunate but unavoidable fact of life that the proper care of weapons is sometimes ignored. MILITEC-1�s long-term lubricating potential helps guard against this eventuality and will allow even badly neglected weapons to fire without jamming. After proper application with MILITEC-1 insures that a weapon will fire properly first time, every time. * MILITEC-1 makes firearms much easier to clean. Since MILITEC-1 seals metal surfaces, fouling and other residue do not build up as quickly. In most cases, a weapon can simply be wiped clean with little effort. This saves a lot of time and frustration and makes cleaning almost fun. * MILITEC-1 is ideal for firearms that are exposed to harsh weather conditions. After proper application, a light coat of MILITEC-1 is highly corrosion resistant - approximately three times more effective in preventing rust than MilSpec CLP. This will cut down on damage caused by damp weather, and makes MILITEC-1 especially useful for firearms carried on motorcycles, bicycles or boats. * A MILITEC-1-treated firearm can be wiped completely clean and dry and will still retain adequate lubrication. That�s right - no liquid lubricant, but still completely lubricated. This is because MILITEC-1 is in the metal, not just on the surface, so the liquid component is unnecessary. This unique self-lubricating effect was used to great advantage in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Iraq. Clean, dry MILITEC-1-treated weapons continued to fire even in blowing dust and sand, since there was no liquid for the dust particles to adhere to and gum up the works. This same effect is useful in extremely cold conditions where there is no liquid to congeal and slow down or freeze the action.

TTAZZMAN | 11-21-2008 07:15 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer (Post 1427847) Ed's Red 1 part Dexron II ATF 1 part mineral spirits 1 part Acetone 1 part kerosene I use the metal Qt cans ( like what the acetone comes in)with a duct tape label for storage Make sure the caps on on tight or the Acetone will evaporate. Most effective when the barrel is still warm. It's a cheap enough solvent that I sometimes give away Qts to my shooting friends.
I use a very similar brew in a big glass jar (2gal+) to dip and soak carboned up parts Microlon gun juice for cleaning and dry lube areas and bore friction reducer use pre-soaked gun wipes for exterior (clean and oil) I use Hoppes or Remmington bore solvents etc ONLY as needed on major bore cleaning I pull a bore snake through every gun after a shooting outing and swab with a oil patch

hypervel | 11-21-2008 07:54 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? BTW, the Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner has been a peach too.

rad | 11-21-2008 09:20 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1427861) For external metal......get yourself a coffee can and keep a few cloth shop towels in it....cover them up with the plastic lid.....oil the rags up and they stay oiled....you can just pull one out now and then and wipe your clean gun to keep it protected. I clean bores/actions with paper towels and wd-40 and if I need solvent...hoppes sometimes mineral spirite. Buy hoppes by the quart...lots of them....store away...put what you need to use in a smaller jar with lid.....like a mason jar for jelly or a baby food jar. I have a quart of hoppes that is over 30 years old.....good to go.
Be careful with oil and rags: What Is Spontaneous Combustion? The Encyclopedia Britannica defines spontaneous combustion as the outbreak of fire without application of heat from an external source. This combustion can occur when flammable matter like oily rags, damp hay, leaves, or coal is stored in bulk. Spontaneous combustion, sometimes referred to as spontaneous ignition, begins when a combustible object is heated to its ignition temperature by a slow oxidation process. Oxidation is a chemical reaction involving the oxygen in the air around us gradually raising the inside temperature of something (like a pile of rags) to the point at which a fire starts. Spontaneous Combustion Can Cause Fires While spontaneous combustion isn't a common occurrence, it can be disastrous. Spontaneous combustion causes major fire losses each year. One of the most common scenarios is when floors or woodwork are being refinished and stain-soaked rags are left in a heap on the floor. Something as simple as not storing these rags properly can cause major fire damage. In fact, the way combustible materials are stored has a lot to do with whether or not they'll spontaneously combust. For example, while an oil-soaked rag stored in a pail could heat up enough to burst into flames, the same oily rag laid flat to dry would probably have sufficient airflow to prevent heat buildup. Similarly, if the oily rag was placed in a tightly sealed jar, it most likely would not have sufficient air to allow the oxidation process to occur. That's why it's a good idea to look around your garage, storage shed, and yard on a regular basis to ensure that all flammable materials are properly stored. Be sure that you: * Carefully store oil-, gasoline-, or paint-soaked rags. Store them in a tightly sealed container in a cool, well-ventilated place away from other combustibles. Or, lay the rags out individually on a flat surface and leave them to dry completely before reusing.

CrufflerJJ | 11-21-2008 09:24 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvis (Post 1428993) For the love of guns, please don't use varnish on them (WD-40). CLP attracts dust/sand like a flippin' magnet: http://www.defensereview.com/modules...rticle&sid=377 Sure, you can suck petroleum fumes, or for a non-toxic cleaning (for those who are near guns a lot and hate breathing that crap, having it soak into you...) http://www.mp7.com/ This totally takes all lube off them, and other stuff, so you need to lube with something that will penetrate. It's so non toxic, read the MSDS. The MPro7 lube is good, but better is: http://www.militec-1.com/ [<snip blahblahblah all bow to the most holy Militec-1 blahblahblah>] MILITEC-1 is ideal for firearms that are exposed to harsh weather conditions. After proper application, a light coat of MILITEC-1 is highly corrosion resistant - approximately three times more effective in preventing rust than MilSpec CLP. This will cut down on damage caused by damp weather, and makes MILITEC-1 especially useful for firearms carried on motorcycles, bicycles or boats.
Yes, CLP attracts dust. Yes, Militec-1 may be a good lubricant (I use it from time to time). I STRONGLY disagree with their BS propaganda that it helps prevent rust. It SUCKS compared to CLP. I saw this TIME AND AGAIN in tests I ran. Years ago, in a past job (although my tests were sort of a "government job"), I evaluated a bunch of different lubes for rust prevention. Militec-1 was worse than nothing at all for preventing rust on cold rolled steel exposed to 100% humidity at 100 degrees F for 11 weeks. I even tried to make the stuff work. I applied it cold to a test panel, and also applied it to another panel which was heated (per their claims of improved corrosion prevention). IT STILL SUCKED for corrosion prevention. For the gory results & a picture, see the bottom of this web page: http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html Note that I only ran the test mentioned at the bottom of the webpage - not the pics using steel angle-iron.

mike77777 | 11-21-2008 09:59 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? stoddard solvent, stainless steel bore brush, nylon toothbrush, compressed air if available, if not sun dry, or furnace/woodfire. when dry, 20/50 mobil 1 motor oil. reamer for gasport on the sks[or drill bit] stainless steel toothbrush for caked on carbon on the piston. carnuba wax for the wood stock. armorall for rubber buttplate. toothpicks, q tips,shoprag. store muzzle down.

Ag_man | 11-21-2008 10:33 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Argentsum (Post 1428153) I usually use Break free and Birchwood Casey Gunscrubber. I imagine some people can get theological about what to use but for myself its merely a matter of cleaning out the carbon and keeping away the rust. Overcleaning can be as bad as not cleaning.
I use the same products, plus a light spray of silicone when the dirty work is done. WD-40 has never touched any of my weapons. I agree, people can get a bit obsessive about cleaning. On some gun forums it can be "Anal Retentive Theater".

buff01 | 11-21-2008 11:16 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? http://specialtauto.com/delorean-par...PB-Blaster.jpg http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n.../plus_sign.jpg http://www.tacticaltailor.com/Produc...esnake1_lg.jpg (you can get the PB blaster at wally world or your local auto parts store. It rules.) I do like the idea of using Mobil 1 as a finishing treatment!

Twisted Avatar | 11-22-2008 06:42 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Bump........ Keep it coming

TomD | 11-22-2008 07:40 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1429259) stoddard solvent, stainless steel bore brush, nylon toothbrush, compressed air if available, if not sun dry, or furnace/woodfire. when dry, 20/50 mobil 1 motor oil. reamer for gasport on the sks[or drill bit] stainless steel toothbrush for caked on carbon on the piston. carnuba wax for the wood stock. armorall for rubber buttplate. toothpicks, q tips,shoprag. store muzzle down.
I strongly disagree about the stainless bore brush for anything better than horribly fouled and pitted old Enfield barrel or the like. You will ruin a good barrel. Bronze only, it has to be harder than the carbon fouling but not as hard as the barrel metal. Stainless will leave scratches.

Lt Dan | 11-22-2008 09:25 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1429642) ......... about the stainless bore brush for anything ...... You will ruin a good barrel. Bronze only, it has to be harder than the carbon fouling but not as hard as the barrel metal. Stainless will leave scratches.
Yes, I do have a couple stainless bore brushes, can't remember ever having to use something that abrasive to clean a bore, wouldn't even do that to me SKS. For some of my small short barreled semi-autos I even use nylon brushes, where there is not copper build up. Stainless is harder than most steels used in gun barrels, maybe except stainless barrels. There are solvents that used correctly will break up the worst copper fouling just using the solvent and a bronze brush. While I've not tested all the brands out there, I settled on my earlier claim for using Break-Free bore cleaner and CLP. They do a good job for me, but I lean toward less not more when it comes to lubrication. Just wipe it down lightly. Oh, for the actions on my M1 Garand and M1A, I use a Q-tip and Valvoline DuraBlend grease. Again, less not more.

Irons | 11-23-2008 11:03 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? 1 Attachment(s) I recently got turned on to the Otis gun cleaning systems and have never looked back.The Otis elite will clean every caliber of rifle, pistol, muzzleloader or shotgun from one small case. :RockOn: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...questid=220541 Attachment 57845

tojaktoty | 11-23-2008 11:28 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Irons (Post 1431788) I recently got turned on to the Otis gun cleaning systems and have never looked back.The Otis elite will clean every caliber of rifle, pistol, muzzleloader or shotgun from one small case. :RockOn: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...questid=220541 Attachment 57845
That right there is one helluva kit. I don't have the whole set as depicted but do have the small circular pouch and it works great. CLP is IMO too runny. I have to give a big :emotions16: for Shooters Choice FP-10 Lubricant Elite.

Elvis | 11-24-2008 09:07 AM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Jeez CrufflerJJ, what an attitude. Sounds like you could use some lube yourself.:moon: I bow to your mighty tests. If I ever need to take a gun and drench it in salt water and leave it outside for several weeks, I now no what to use. There is a compromise with each of the products. CLP attracts dirt, lubes ok, and prevents rust. MT lubes fine, doesn't attract dirt, and will let your gun rust if you park leave it outside in the rain for several weeks. (I've been using the stuff for 5 years in the most humid areas of the country and have had zero rust on a variety of weapons because I actually maintain them.) The best product in your test is a poor lubricant. The second best is a fine lubricant and dust magnet. The worst is the best lube and keeps the dust out. If one product was best for all, I guess there's be only one product on the market. (applies also to discussions on calbre, make, model, and anything to do with guns.)

Twisted Avatar | 11-27-2008 06:36 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Bump........

extremist | 11-27-2008 08:53 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? M-Pro 7 (cleaner) and SLIP2000 (CLP). Both are (claimed to be) non-toxic, while most others warn about toxicity, cancer risk, etc. For frequent maintenance and field cleaning, the alleged non-toxicity helps, if only psychosomatically.

cugir321 | 11-27-2008 09:48 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? piss and water. Keeps the kids away from guns. Actually piss works great for corrosive powder. Whip it out at the range and spray it down the chamber. Douse with your drinking water nozzle. The russians used to do it...thrifty chumps.

CrufflerJJ | 11-27-2008 10:17 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvis (Post 1432256) Jeez CrufflerJJ, what an attitude. Sounds like you could use some lube yourself.:moon: I bow to your mighty tests. If I ever need to take a gun and drench it in salt water and leave it outside for several weeks, I now no what to use.
Thanks for your feedback. I hope you had a good turkey day too. No, my tests were not "mighty" at all. I mainly did them for myself, just to see how the various lubes worked for rust prevention. I just got a bit disgruntled by different vendor's claims of rust prevention. From everything I read, Militec-1 is good for lubrication, but I'd not use it for any sort of rust preventative on tools or firearms. Yes, there's a balance to everything. Enjoy your lube.

cugir321 | 11-28-2008 08:19 PM
Re: What do you use to clean you Rifles/guns with?? I do like shooter's choice, rust prevent. Living in florida, I better have a good one...I've oiled the gun friday night and by 12:00pm the next day it's rusting in my tree stand. Rust prevent works well for long term storage. Spray it outside. It will destroy your house. Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1438326) Thanks for your feedback. I hope you had a good turkey day too. No, my tests were not "mighty" at all. I mainly did them for myself, just to see how the various lubes worked for rust prevention. I just got a bit disgruntled by different vendor's claims of rust prevention. From everything I read, Militec-1 is good for lubrication, but I'd not use it for any sort of rust preventative on tools or firearms. Yes, there's a balance to everything. Enjoy your lube.

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