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crazychicken | 01-13-2009 09:43 PM
Primers What component is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to manufacture as an individual??????????? Primers! Anyone try to buy any lately???? Prices through the roof when you can find them. Six month life on new primers???? My gun dealer told me that is part of the NEW AGENDA! Control the ammunition and the components--They don't need to control the guns if there is nothing to put in them. CC

flying | 01-13-2009 10:39 PM
Re: Primers Quote:
Originally Posted by crazychicken (Post 1510860) What component is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to manufacture as an individual??????????? Primers! Anyone try to buy any lately???? Prices through the roof when you can find them. Six month life on new primers???? My gun dealer told me that is part of the NEW AGENDA! Control the ammunition and the components--They don't need to control the guns if there is nothing to put in them. CC
I just bought 3000 for 25 bucks per 1000 Not bad for these parts & I actually see it online for more. Then again I pay 30 bucks a pound for powder:rant: Wonder how anyone could put a shelf life of 6 months on primers?

reviver | 01-14-2009 12:14 AM
Re: Primers Primers are an interesting subject. Were not corrosive primers (military surplus) formulated to 'last a long time', in other words, for their longevity, as it was the weakest (most time sensitive) component of the 'bullet'. Any takers?

CyberGold | 01-14-2009 12:24 AM
Re: Primers The gunshow in Tucson was sold out of Small Rifle primers 1 hour after it opened. My local dealer only had 1 box on the shelf. $32 a thousand

crazychicken | 01-14-2009 04:27 AM
Re: Primers Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 1510874) When is this spec supposed to take effect? Is it only speculation at this point? Seems like a liability issue for a manufacturer, someone gets hurt due to a primer gone (partially) bad. Someone was trying to tell me the other day that ammo manufactured in the past two years has been 'downloaded'. I say bull**** - ammo has to be manufactured to SAAMI specs, otherwise a manufacturer has a potential liability issue. Be wary of the disinfo floating around.
Maybe it is just a rumor. But no one around here-upstate NY-has any. MidwayUSA has no small rifle and limited others. I haven't been able to get anyone at the four stores I deal with in Nevada to sell any to me-small rifle-They all say they are out. I may be wrong and am open to criticism. CC

Dutch Dog | 01-14-2009 05:38 AM
Re: Primers Just picked up a bunch from Powder Vallety. Couldn't get the CCI 300 for my AR though. Will let you know in 6 mo's if they still work. I am sure they will...

extremist | 01-14-2009 06:36 AM
Re: Primers If someone managed to create usable primers that last only 6 months, that would be some interesting chemistry. The usual main component, lead styphnate, lasts more or less indefinitely. On the other hand, lead-free primers using aluminum styphnate have a life of perhaps 10 years, and this could be shortened by adding oxidation agents or other catalysts. But did someone really go through all that trouble to make a product inferior?

CyberGold | 01-14-2009 11:13 PM
Re: Primers I stopped in another gunshop today and cheapest SR primers he had were...$42 !!!! Powder had gone up to $30. In a pinch can small pistol primers be used in 223 ?

flying | 01-14-2009 11:16 PM
Re: Primers Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberGold (Post 1512688) I stopped in another gunshop today and cheapest SR primers he had were...$42 !!!! Powder had gone up to $30. In a pinch can small pistol primers be used in 223 ?
Wow you pay as much for powder as I do. I have used small rifle in 38 super before but never small pistol in 223

AZLiberty | 01-15-2009 10:07 PM
Re: Primers Plenty of primers up in the Phoenix area, they were pretty scarce for a while, but started being restocked just after christmas. Powder now... I Havn't seen an 8 lb jug of IMR 4895 in months.

Fullpower | 01-15-2009 10:24 PM
Re: Primers I have disassembled used primers, knocked the dimple out with a small punch, packed the cavity with the very tip material from strike anywhere kitchen matches, and then carefully pressed the little three pronged anvil back into th e primer cup, and reloaded 38 special cartridges with a normal load of bullseye propellant. they all fired normally. I do not know how long they would last, and I rather doubt they would stand up to a high moisture environment, but they went 100% for my sample.

CyberGold | 01-15-2009 11:13 PM
Re: Primers Quote:
Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1514289) I have disassembled used primers, knocked the dimple out with a small punch, packed the cavity with the very tip material from strike anywhere kitchen matches, and then carefully pressed the little three pronged anvil back into th e primer cup, and reloaded 38 special cartridges with a normal load of bullseye propellant. they all fired normally. I do not know how long they would last, and I rather doubt they would stand up to a high moisture environment, but they went 100% for my sample.
did you make a paste or pack em dry?

Tallships | 01-15-2009 11:17 PM
Re: Primers Quote:
Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1514289) I have disassembled used primers, knocked the dimple out with a small punch, packed the cavity with the very tip material from strike anywhere kitchen matches, and then carefully pressed the little three pronged anvil back into th e primer cup, and reloaded 38 special cartridges with a normal load of bullseye propellant. they all fired normally. I do not know how long they would last, and I rather doubt they would stand up to a high moisture environment, but they went 100% for my sample.
I learn something usefully new, everyday,:coolbeer: here at G.I.M.

LowDow | 01-16-2009 03:15 AM
Re: Primers 209 primers for blackpowder shooting and reloading buckshot if ammo acountability act goes through.

TomD | 01-16-2009 07:43 AM
Re: Primers For anyone loading for 5.56 (223), try some Russian Wolf small rifle magnum. A bunch of the guys shooting across the course at 600 yards swear by them. I got 5,000 for $85.

electric-amish | 01-16-2009 09:39 AM
Re: Primers Grafs and sons~ primers for Pistols are about $3.10 per 100. A little better per 5000 or thousand. Powder is typically $23 per lb. Better in 5lbs--but thats a lot for me. I know they have plenty. E-A

flying | 01-20-2009 11:23 PM
Re: Primers I just picked up another 3000 today at $25 per thousand. I feel lucky to have got them. Now I need to get more powder.....Man I hope this place never catches fire:wink:

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