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daveman | 08-03-2009 01:57 AM
Holster for conealed carry Looking for a way to conceal carry either a glock 17 or maybe 33. I was under the impression that shoulder holsters would be more concealed than anything else, but I can't seem to find them these days. And most of the folks I've talked to at the stores tell me that shoulder holster is too "unsafe." If so, how do all those government agents from the CIA and FBI carry their firearms?

SilverCity | 08-03-2009 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by daveman (Post 1849177) Looking for a way to conceal carry either a glock 17 or maybe 33. I was under the impression that shoulder holsters would be more concealed than anything else, but I can't seem to find them these days. And most of the folks I've talked to at the stores tell me that shoulder holster is too "unsafe." If so, how do all those government agents from the CIA and FBI carry their firearms?
Scully and Mulder carried right-front OWB with thumb snap. I prefer IWB with my G33 in a FIST ultra-thin kydex:

daveman | 08-03-2009 03:32 AM
Re: Holster for conealed carry What's OWB and IWB? Are those shoulder holsters?

Lurch | 08-03-2009 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by daveman (Post 1849251) What's OWB and IWB? Are those shoulder holsters?
Outside waistband Inside waistband I hear a lot of folks praising CTAC and MTAC holsters but have no personal experience with them.

Absintheur | 08-03-2009 11:27 AM
Re: Holster for conealed carry People who wear shoulder holster are always easy to pick out of a crowd, they are the ones with the left arm held away from the body even when standing still, also they are the ones who keep their jackets on in 90 degree weather. I routinely carry a L frame S&W 325PD strong side and a K frame S&W Model 12 weak side daily, bot the Hume J.I.T. owb belt holsters. They are covered by either a camp shirt or polo. I also carry a Glock 19 in this manner and have done so for many years (my 19 is a 2 letter gun...that's how long I have been carrying it) I feel the OWB is the most comfortable carry available, IWB is a tiny bit easier to conceal but not as comfortable.

Tragedy Trousers | 08-03-2009 11:30 AM
Re: Holster for conealed carry Looking for a good IWB holster as well. Just traded my 9mm S&W Sigma in for a 40 cal Springfield XDM. What a difference! The XDM is a pure joy to shoot.

wallew | 08-03-2009 11:50 AM
Re: Holster for conealed carry For a Glock? http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=398 cheap and easy

Quixote2 | 08-03-2009 12:26 PM
Re: Holster for conealed carry I bought one of these for a Ruger KP345, it works. http://smartcarry.com/

Montecristo | 08-03-2009 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Quixote2 (Post 1849718) I bought one of these for a Ruger KP345, it works. http://smartcarry.com/
That looks like it might be uncomfortable to sit wearing that type of holster?

Walter Mitty | 08-03-2009 01:43 PM
Re: Holster for conealed carry A guy named Dale Fricke is making an Kydex Appendix Carry Inside the Waist Ban holster that seems to be blazing fast if you trust yourself not to shoot your &&&& off or shoot yourself in your femoral artery. G. Suarez's One Source Tactical store carries them. Blade Tech make a behind the hip IWB holster that looks like it is pretty good.

erocktxmade | 08-03-2009 02:21 PM
Re: Holster for conealed carry I carry my Glock 30SF in a Minotaur MTAC holster which you can buy here and fast shipping! http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=95 I used to have a fist #1 a which was really good but this one is so much more comfortable. The downside is it does not hold the gun in if you turn it upside down, but when are you upside down in normal life unless someone is kicking your butt so maybe it should be out anyway. But I am in Houston where its SO hot and this thing does great when in shorts and a sleeveless T-shirt. Here are some pics! [IMG]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...e/IMG_0003.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...e/IMG_0004.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...IMG_0005-1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...e/IMG_0006.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...e/IMG_0005.jpg[/IMG]

madfranks | 08-03-2009 02:49 PM
Re: Holster for conealed carry The problem you have with a shoulder holster is that the gun is carried horizontally, so if you carry chambered, you're basically "sweeping" everyone around you all the time, as you have a cocked/locked ready to rock glock pointing at everyone every time you turn around. Although the glock enthusiasts will swear that the gun will never go off accidentally, if somehow that one in a million bump causes your chambered round to discharge, say goodbye to whoever was standing behind you. That's why shoulder holsters are considered "unsafe".

morganchaser | 08-03-2009 04:30 PM
Re: Holster for conealed carry Rule #1: don't drop your gun from it's holster/set it on a sloped surface when taking a shit in a public restroom. http://ccwsupply.biz You have a lot of reading/trial and error to do. I thought I was going to wear shoulder holsters, but they don't work very well in the summer, and they tend to flash the gun if you aren't careful. The horizontals are pretty unsafe because they encourage sweeping your own arm. You have to do some sort of retarded looking power rangers draw to safely use one. Either that or carry condition 3. Personally: I think anyone who carries cocked and locked in a horizontal shoulder holster deserves a case of glock leg due to the fact that they are essentially sweeping anyone with the misfortune of walking behind them. The vertical holsters are a little bit better in terms of both safety and courtesy. It's interesting to note that every shoulder holster I've seen in the real world has been vertical. Regardless: I discourage people from CCing a gun in a shoulder holster that isn't D/A hammer down, or in condition 3 safety off with a practiced Israeli draw. A lot of people may take issue with that opinion but their misplaced faith in "modern handgun design" does not follow the basic principles of explosives/equipment safety. One safety topic to consider is that some guns have ejectors which have caused primer ignitions on extraction of a live round. This can cause serious hand injury so if you're going to make a habbit of "clearing guns" regularly: I suggest researching this topic further. If you plan on needing your gun from a sitting position: cross draw holsters are worth looking in to. I like the "Ross Driving holster" because of the ability to switch between Crossdraw and small of back(SOB). Some guns are easier to find holsters for than others. Allessi is considered a god. Horse leather is overrated. Kydex doesn't seem very popular. SOB carry is considered unsafe for a number of reasons. Research the issue of glock leg. Personally: I buy surplus military holsters and wet mold them to my guns. I understand the spetsnaz use a holster for their makarovs called the EFA. http://www.efa-2004.com/ These holsters were received by people who don't use them with mixed opinions when I was reading about them. Most people including cops carry strong side IWB for a reason. An ankle holster/boot knife seems to be a popular backup, although I can't comment on how comfortable that is.

Flinch | 08-03-2009 05:12 PM
Re: Holster for conealed carry Quote:
Originally Posted by daveman (Post 1849177) Looking for a way to conceal carry either a glock 17 or maybe 33. I was under the impression that shoulder holsters would be more concealed than anything else, but I can't seem to find them these days. And most of the folks I've talked to at the stores tell me that shoulder holster is too "unsafe." If so, how do all those government agents from the CIA and FBI carry their firearms?
Here's my $.02 on holsters; no single holster works in all situations. My daily carry is a 1911 Govt. model. I use a Galco Miami II shoulder rig at times and find it confortable.The pistol is held muzzle back by a retention strap and the mag carriers hold two Wilson 8 rounds snugly with tension screws. The issue with the myth they are "unsafe" is with a muzzle facing to the rear you'll be sweeping everyone behind you. Keep your finger off the trigger as you walk around and you'll be fine. :wink: As far as keeping my left arm out further from my body than my right, I've never noticed. If you are of a slight build and carry a double stack full size handgun (Like a Glock 17) then yeah, maybe. If anybody says anything tell 'em you've had a stroke and drool on them. I also use a Tucker Cover Up Plus, rough side out IWB for cooler weather, paired with their IWB double magazine carrier. The Minotaur mentioned above is another good choice and some folks prefer a similar style of holster over the single clip holsters (Like the Tucker cover-up) because the second clip helps to hold everything in place. Whatever you choose you'll wind up with at least two to three holsters to suit different occasions and seasonal changes. On retention straps or devices; For concealed carry, not so good. They just get in the way. Instead, have confidence in your cover garment and use situational awareness to your advantage. If you intend to pratice Open Carry (Please -no flames I'm not advocating it.) By all means use a holster designed for retention and pratice drawing as well as retaining the sidearm juuuuust in case some punk deceides to snatch your firearm.

morganchaser | 08-03-2009 05:36 PM
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