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amelia | 01-16-2009 11:03 PM
A question only a girl could ask I'm hoping that you guys could answer a quick question that I have about my new Remington 870 12-gauge shotgun. I got some good advice to fit it with an 18-inch barrel with an improved cylinder. I gave the store an item number, but they ordered something a little different for me. It wasn't until I got it home that I realized I had something different. Maybe it's just fine, but I thought I'd ask you guys who know what you're doing. What I got was a Remington No. 24620. The box reads "12/18" Cylinder Express Police Barrel." It doesn't say anything about an improved cylinder. I'm not finding anything real helpful on the internet. Is anyone familiar with this barrel who could tell me whether I've got the right thing? The whole purpose of this barrel is to make the gun a better in-home self-defense gun--larger spread and less length to get in the way. Thanks in advance for any thoughts you have!

Ringhunter | 01-16-2009 11:33 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Police barrel should be fine but if it's not what you ordered,take it back or have them explain if it's been replaced. You could buy a hacksaw :wink:

EE_ | 01-16-2009 11:42 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask It's probably a improved cylinder bore, which is a little tighter than the cylinder bore you were probaly after. It won't make a difference in close range, but it will have a little farther reach longer range. It wouldn't bother me to have either, or. It is 18" isn't it? Does the finish match you shotgun? How much did you pay? $135 or less? It might be a better barrel than the standard express. I'll look around and see what I can find on them.

AG Capone | 01-16-2009 11:47 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask That is the improved barrel. 12 gauge / 18" long Police model I'm not sure if that is rifled or able to shoot slugs. It looks like remington's site could help you with that.

amelia | 01-16-2009 11:49 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask EE, yes it is 18-inch, and it has the same black matte finish. I paid about $125 for it. I did some looking around on the internet for anything that would define the term "police barrel," but I couldn't find anything. Thanks for your help, guys!

EE_ | 01-17-2009 12:03 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by amelia (Post 1515768) EE, yes it is 18-inch, and it has the same black matte finish. I paid about $125 for it. I did some looking around on the internet for anything that would define the term "police barrel," but I couldn't find anything. Thanks for your help, guys!
Here's a barrel with the same model number http://www.thegunsource.com/item/463...#ReviewProduct I'm not sure if there is a police version with the same model number. Or did they put the wrong barrel in the box? Do you notice a ball detent area that locks the barrel to the reciever? I believe the police barrels have this. I'd probably keep it.

StrawMan=Corporation | 01-17-2009 12:05 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask If the barrel is rifled from memory that would make it a NFA DD. Quote:
Originally Posted by AG Capone (Post 1515765) That is the improved barrel. 12 gauge / 18" long Police model I'm not sure if that is rifled or able to shoot slugs. It looks like remington's site could help you with that.

elroy | 01-17-2009 12:30 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask From what I could find out it is a cylinder bore, no choke at all. Fine for home defense.

SilverCity | 01-17-2009 12:30 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by amelia (Post 1515712) I'm hoping that you guys could answer a quick question that I have about my new Remington 870 12-gauge shotgun. I got some good advice to fit it with an 18-inch barrel with an improved cylinder. I gave the store an item number, but they ordered something a little different for me. It wasn't until I got it home that I realized I had something different. Maybe it's just fine, but I thought I'd ask you guys who know what you're doing. What I got was a Remington No. 24620. The box reads "12/18" Cylinder Express Police Barrel." It doesn't say anything about an improved cylinder. I'm not finding anything real helpful on the internet. Is anyone familiar with this barrel who could tell me whether I've got the right thing? The whole purpose of this barrel is to make the gun a better in-home self-defense gun--larger spread and less length to get in the way. Thanks in advance for any thoughts you have!
"Cylinder" Express Police Barrel means CYLINDER BORE (no choke) and is PERFECT for home defense... I don't recall ever seeing an 18 inch "Improved Cylinder" bore for a Remington 870 Express, unless it had screw-in chokes.

Squirrel Bait | 01-17-2009 12:33 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Is anything printed on the barrel itself. Small print usually on the right side? s

AZLiberty | 01-17-2009 02:22 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask You have a police barrel. The Remington 870 Police has a slightly thicker barrel than the Rem 870 Express barrel. The slightly thicker/heavier duty barrel is just fine. Since it reads "Cylinder" you have a cylinder bore barrel not an "improved cylinder" cylinder is just fine for your purposes. Most 18" barrels will by cylinder bore.

Willie Peter | 01-17-2009 02:33 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask How do they "Choke" shotgun barrels? I've got a 30" full choke for my 870 Wingmaster, I just assumed it was mostly due to the length of the barrel

Martian_Time_slip | 01-17-2009 03:29 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Where did you find it for that price?

amelia | 01-17-2009 10:47 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask So if I'm understanding it correctly, a "cylinder" bore is basically a straight tube, while an "improved" bore is a tube that is narrowed (choked) at the business end? I'm trying to visualize this. . . It would logically seem that an narrowed cylinder would give you a tighter pattern, which might not be the best thing for home defense--? Sounds like what I got will be just fine. Thanks everyone, you're the best!

SilverCity | 01-17-2009 11:04 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by amelia (Post 1516064) So if I'm understanding it correctly, a "cylinder" bore is basically a straight tube, while an "improved" bore is a tube that is narrowed (choked) at the business end? I'm trying to visualize this. . . It would logically seem that an narrowed cylinder would give you a tighter pattern, which might not be the best thing for home defense--? Sounds like what I got will be just fine. Thanks everyone, you're the best!
correct....... and you are welcome. :wink:

TomD | 01-17-2009 06:51 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask I can't imagine a reason to put a choke of any description on a 18" barrel, it's a contradiction. Even if you have an improved cylinder you wouldn't ever notice in practical terms in a defense situation. At sub-20 yard ranges the shot pattern difference between the chokes is unnoticeable.

AZLiberty | 01-18-2009 12:43 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 1515891) How do they "Choke" shotgun barrels?
A "choke" is a narrowing of the bore at the muzzle, normaly in increments of 5 thousandths of an inch. The chart below gives the constriction, and the % of pellets that should fall within a 30" circle (measured at 40 yards) A 30" tube with a full choke would be a dedicated duck/goose gun. A modified choke give good general purpose hunting patterns, and I always use improved cylinder, or Skeet #1 for doves and quail. Name #% Constriction Cylinder Bore 40 .000 Skeet 1 45 .005 Improved Cylinder 50 .010 Skeet 2 55 .015 Modified 60 .020 Improved Modified 65 .025 Full 70 .030 Extra Full 73 .040 Turkey 75+ .045+ As I said above, most home defense/police/military shotguns will be 18-20 inches of barrel, Cylinder Bore.

Willie Peter | 01-18-2009 01:59 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Thanks for that info......the full choke barrel came with it, but I've long since bought an 18" 2 3/4 or 3" and thats what stays on it most of the time

morganchaser | 01-18-2009 02:21 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1516539) I can't imagine a reason to put a choke of any description on a 18" barrel, it's a contradiction. Even if you have an improved cylinder you wouldn't ever notice in practical terms in a defense situation. At sub-20 yard ranges the shot pattern difference between the chokes is unnoticeable.
Oh. I was thinking about getting the polychoke for my saiga 12. Is that a waste of money? I shoot clays with it sometimes...

TomD | 01-18-2009 08:18 AM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by morganchaser (Post 1516926) Oh. I was thinking about getting the polychoke for my saiga 12. Is that a waste of money? I shoot clays with it sometimes...
I don't get your point. A hunting/sporting shotgun is different from a defense shotgun. Admittedly they are both shotguns and can perform some of the same functions as the other but with much less efficiency than the shotgun optimized for the purpose. Hunting/sporting shotguns mostly have barrel lengths of from 24"-30" and will be used as close as 5-10 yards for jump bird shooting to 50 yards for waterfowl or turkey. This is why there are interchangeable chokes. The purpose of a defense shotgun is different, the intended range is close-therefore the shotgun has a very short barrel (usually 18") and no choke (cylinder). Sure you can shoot skeet with a defense shotgun, just like you could use a mason's hammer to do trim work. Personally I wouldn't even consider using my Benelli Nova for sporting work, but I have other shotguns for that.

CyberGold | 01-18-2009 04:50 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 1515891) How do they "Choke" shotgun barrels?
They squeeze real hard....:cooler::cooler::cooler: well, somebody had to say it:111::111::111:

Drumblebum | 01-18-2009 05:10 PM
Re: A question only a girl could ask I shoot clays with my 870 Express / 18" barrel all the time. It helps that it's the only shotgun I own I suppose, but... I tried shooting clays with my buddy's old Rem 20 ga. (26 in barrell I think) last weekend. Couldn't hit a single one. :10_1_20:

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