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Black Blade | 06-20-2008 02:04 PM
New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits 1 Attachment(s) POSTED: 10:31 am PDT June 18, 2008 (photo at below so as not to frighten little children) SANTA ANA, Calif. -- Newly appointed Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens says she intends to review all the concealed-weapons permits her indicted predecessor issued and revoke those of gun owners who can't prove a legal need to carry the weapons, it was reported Wednesday. Sheriff Michael S. Carona, who resigned in January to focus on his upcoming federal corruption trial, had issued more than 1,100 active carry permits -- among the most issued by any sheriff or police chief in the state, according to the Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca, by contrast, has issued fewer than 400. Many were issued to traditional holders: judges, prosecutors, jewelers or others whose occupation leaves them in fear for their safety. But others included wealthy white-collar businessmen, doctors, dentists, Republican party activists and financial contributors to Carona's political campaigns, The Times reported. Click here to find out more! In its October indictment, a federal grand jury accused Carona of having issued a concealed-weapons permit to a businessman who had previously been convicted of unlawfully possessing a concealed weapon. Hutchens said yesterday in remarks reported by The Times that she intends to review each permit and determine whether the gun owners demonstrated an immediate fear for their safety or held an occupation so inherently dangerous that they needed to carry concealed weapons in public. "The important thing to me is they need to have demonstrated a need," Hutchens said, according to The Times. And if there's no need, she'll revoke the permits. "That's probably not going to be popular with a lot of people," she said. (Comments bottom of page) http://www.knbc.com/politics/1664395...ss=la&psp=news

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 06-20-2008 06:34 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Stupid sow. That's what you get with a new "Sheriff" from L.A. County: citizen disarmament. I'm sure that the "good-hearted people who just want to work" up in the Santa Ana area will be happy to learn that the threat to their safety while "moonlighting" will soon be decreasing substantially.

45 ACP | 06-21-2008 03:09 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Just looking at her mug puts me in fear for my life. Fugly gal with too much power. Yes I am being horrible, but crap like that really pisses me off.

Juristic Person | 06-21-2008 03:11 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1155741) Stupid sow. That's what you get with a new "Sheriff" from L.A. County: citizen disarmament. I'm sure that the "good-hearted people who just want to work" up in the Santa Ana area will be happy to learn that the threat to their safety while "moonlighting" will soon be decreasing substantially.
Your permit can't be revoked if you never got one in the first place.

Twisted Avatar | 06-21-2008 03:38 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits The important thing to me is they need to have demonstrated a need," Hutchens said, according to The Times. And if there's no need, she'll revoke the permits. "That's probably not going to be popular with a lot of people," she said Need?? Need?? BECAUSE I SAID SO DAMMIT..... THAT IS ALL THE NEED THAT HAS TO BE PROVIDED. Demon witch reptile. T

<SLV> | 06-21-2008 04:45 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1156676) The important thing to me is they need to have demonstrated a need," Hutchens said, according to The Times. And if there's no need, she'll revoke the permits. "That's probably not going to be popular with a lot of people," she said Need?? Need?? BECAUSE I SAID SO DAMMIT..... THAT IS ALL THE NEED THAT HAS BE PROVIDED. Demon witch reptile. T
I read "KEEP" and I read "BEAR", but I don't read "NEED" in the 2nd.

Twisted Avatar | 06-21-2008 04:48 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1156719) I read "KEEP" and I read "BEAR", but I don't read "NEED" in the 2nd.
Even better......... Well said..... T

Abouthadit | 06-21-2008 06:51 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Oh F***ing GREAT. A woman police chief named Sandra. I am almost laughing and crying at the same time. So tell me: just how bad CAN it get?? As another thread asks: Where are the men? Unbelievable. :banghead::banghead:

Juristic Person | 06-21-2008 06:53 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1156830) Oh F***ing GREAT. A woman police chief named Sandra. I am almost laughing and crying at the same time. So tell me: just how bad CAN it get?? As another thread asks: Where are the men? Unbelievable. :banghead::banghead:
Simple solution: don't ask the government for permission to exercise a right.

Abouthadit | 06-21-2008 07:11 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1156833) Simple solution: don't ask the government for permission to exercise a right.
Amen brother, amen. and at TA would say when they come for yours: CLICK CLICK

Juristic Person | 06-21-2008 07:12 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1156861) Amen brother, amen. and at TA would say when they come for yours: CLICK CLICK
They will only come for what they know you have. But really, there won't ever be nationwide door to door gun sweeps in this country.

Twisted Avatar | 06-21-2008 07:17 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits And if there's no need, she'll revoke the permits. "That's probably not going to be popular with a lot of people," she said. NEVER TURN IN YOUR GUNS............ EVER........... THE DAY YOU DO IS THE DAY YOU ACKNOWELGE A POWER HIGHER THAN YOUR GOD WHO GAVE YOU YOUR FREEDOMS!!! T

Abouthadit | 06-21-2008 07:19 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1156869) And if there's no need, she'll revoke the permits. "That's probably not going to be popular with a lot of people," she said. NEVER TURN IN YOUR GUNS............ EVER........... THE DAY YOU DO IS THE DAY YOU ACKNOWELGE A POWER HIGHER THAN YOUR GOD WHO GAVE YOU YOUR FREEDOMS!!! T
Exactamundo: Natural law or positive law? Do we get our rights from our Creator or from government? That my friends is the question. If you say the latter, then go ahead and turn in your weapons and gold, and go buy a big jar of vaseline.

budfox | 06-21-2008 07:20 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1156646) Your permit can't be revoked if you never got one in the first place.
+1 !!!! Wake up people.

Juristic Person | 06-21-2008 07:21 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1156869) And if there's no need, she'll revoke the permits. "That's probably not going to be popular with a lot of people," she said. NEVER TURN IN YOUR GUNS............ EVER........... THE DAY YOU DO IS THE DAY YOU ACKNOWELGE A POWER HIGHER THAN YOUR GOD WHO GAVE YOU YOUR FREEDOMS!!! T
You acknowledge that authority prior to turning in your guns. You acknowledge it when you apply for a permit to carry.

Twisted Avatar | 06-21-2008 07:23 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits 5 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1156861) Amen brother, amen. and at TA would say when they come for yours: CLICK CLICK
You got that right partner.

budfox | 06-21-2008 07:27 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits I will not live in a state that does not allow open carry. An armed society is a polite society. You don't hear about cops kicken doors down in my WTSHTF small town location. What the hell do you think gun registration is for??? So the criminals can register all their guns??

JJ_ | 06-22-2008 05:03 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1156865) .............. But really, there won't ever be nationwide door to door gun sweeps in this country.
Boy that makes me feel so much better.:sarc: :thinkey: Has not the gov't already done that... like in the last 2-3 years in select SHTF locations?

Juristic Person | 06-23-2008 01:27 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1157767) Boy that makes me feel so much better.:sarc: :thinkey: Has not the gov't already done that... like in the last 2-3 years in select SHTF locations?
Nationwide gun sweeps? No, they have not. (Oh and if you are referring to Katrina - the locals were, for the most part, vacated.) How do you suppose a door-to-door gunsweep would go down in a your neck of the woods?

Juristic Person | 06-23-2008 01:29 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1157774) Exactly. Makes me think it would be a good idea to take some throw down weapons like my SKS, seal it in a air/water tight bag along with 500rds and put is somewhere a little less accessible. If you get caught unawares, and lose your main battle rifles, then you always have your TS REALLY HTF backup rifle.
It's not gonna happen. The only way people will lose there arms, is incrementally, over time. Nobody is coming to your house to take them away. Relax.

JJ_ | 06-23-2008 02:01 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1159039) How do you suppose a door-to-door gunsweep would go down in a your neck of the woods?
Ahh well... you did say nationwide - an un-doable task to be sure. However I haven't enough love for my government to believe that they don't want to. Given the resources to do it? You can have your conjecture. I will have mine. Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1159039) How do you suppose a door-to-door gunsweep would go down in a your neck of the woods?
Badly. Very Badly. But it wouldn't happen in my neck of the woods.:D

Juristic Person | 06-23-2008 02:31 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1159108) Ahh well... you did say nationwide - an un-doable task to be sure. However I haven't enough love for my government to believe that they don't want to. Given the resources to do it? You can have your conjecture. I will have mine. Badly. Very Badly. But it wouldn't happen in my neck of the woods.:D
They don't have the manpower to do it. Not only that, I know enough people in military and in law enforcement to know that they would not carry out the task (against their friends, family and neighbors - law abiding Americans). I'm telling you, disarmement is an INCREMENTAL process. They take away little by little until one day, there is nothing left to take. Trust me, the LAPD is not going to march into Compton and ask the Bloods and the Mexican Mafia (over 50,000 strong) to give up turn over their machine guns. Ain't happenin.

Abouthadit | 06-23-2008 02:45 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1159162) I'm telling you, disarmement is an INCREMENTAL process. They take away little by little until one day, there is nothing left to take.
Yep, like boiling the frog, or the Fabian socialists, whichever you prefer.

Twisted Avatar | 06-23-2008 02:52 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1159184) Yep, like boiling the frog, or the Fabian socialists, whichever you prefer.
I hope so...........ask britan about the sudden gun grab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQ...ec/default.jpg T

Juristic Person | 06-23-2008 02:53 PM
Re: New OC Sheriff To Review All Concealed-Weapons Permits Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1159196) I hope so...........ask britan about the sudden gun grab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQ...ec/default.jpg T
There wasn't a sudden gun grab in Britain. It was an incremental process that began with licensing and registration. Same thing in Australia.

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