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erocktxmade | 10-08-2009 10:47 AM
Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs This was taken by me with the Army back in Jan. of 08 or so. The first pic. are the AKs they had rounded up in town and bring back to the base and dig a hole and pile all the wepons in it and place C4 and wire it up blow it up. Lemme tell you after the explosion going back to the hole here is NOTHING to be found that resembles ANYthing of a gun. They do fire extinguishers to the same way, the old ones or ones that have leaked the Notrogen. They blow them up so they cant be used for bombs bythe locals. And the same story, you wont find one piece of red metal anywhere. The charge is about 600 pounds of C4. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1.../Cache-1-1.jpg Here is the video, I am behind the camera in the little shack to avoid frags. Youd had to have been there to truly appreciate the explosion and the percussion. But do turn your speakers up! There is a cussword or 2 after so do it with discretion. Welp Ive tried to embed the video so I will have to link it! If someone can embed it, feel free to do so! You Tube
You Tube
Well the video magically embeded after submitting the new thread...go figure! Here is the same footage with a different camera, I think its better quality though... You Tube
You Tube

pat pat | 10-08-2009 10:53 AM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs I did that also in the first gulf war AK's, Missiles, even got the old WW1 pineapple grenades turned in... Saw some real funky stuff. saw about a dozen grenades duct taped together (in a circle), had a single steel wire running through all the pins (massive booby trap) We blew up all kinds of stuff, layed out a lot of C4... C4 came in those military bandoliers,

Heimdhal | 10-08-2009 11:45 AM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs what a waste of AK's :(

wallew | 10-08-2009 11:46 AM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs 1 Attachment(s) Here ya go. 10,000 lbs of explosives plus 20k rounds being blown up. This pix was taken from EIGHT KLICKS AWAY... Attachment 80210

renegade_01 | 10-08-2009 11:48 AM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1961667) what a waste of AK's :(
no doubt. Pretty soon the:puke: goons will be doing it over here... Would be fun though. Imagine blowing up Rockefellars cache.

Haltiat | 10-08-2009 01:55 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs A good capitalist army would have sent those home as parts kits and set off the C4 anyway.

Dave Thomas | 10-08-2009 01:58 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 1961959) A good capitalist army would have sent those home as parts kits and set off the C4 anyway.
No no no, you don't get it, you can't sell anyone new shiny weapons if they are constantly repairing their old ones silly!

Kregener | 10-08-2009 02:00 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs How...sad.

Heimdhal | 10-08-2009 02:18 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Thomas (Post 1961966) No no no, you don't get it, you can't sell anyone new shiny weapons if they are constantly repairing their old ones silly!
that is actualy true though. How many millions of AK's are lurking around the world, many of them decades old and still in service? I think thats a big reason some of those russian arms factories went belly up here recently. Hard to compete with yourself when you start off with such a great product to begin with.

Golddust | 10-08-2009 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1962020) that is actualy true though. How many millions of AK's are lurking around the world, many of them decades old and still in service? I think thats a big reason some of those russian arms factories went belly up here recently. Hard to compete with yourself when you start off with such a great product to begin with.
Agree. What happens when you make a product that sells when finally everyone has one..?

Heimdhal | 10-08-2009 02:24 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 1962029) Agree. What happens when you make a product that sells when finally everyone has one..?
Its the long forseen and dreaded AK BUBBLE OF 09. And, of course, the US answer to it, just like the credit bubbles, is to blow shit up!

tekrunner | 10-08-2009 02:34 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs erock, any word on when you guys start doing that again in the U.S.?

sirgonzo420 | 10-08-2009 02:36 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 1962029) Agree. What happens when you make a product that sells when finally everyone has one..?
If they are like me, they will buy more. :biggrin:

hypervel | 10-08-2009 03:12 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs ....and Arsenal goes bankrupt......WTF?

Twisted Avatar | 10-08-2009 03:18 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 1962029) Agree. What happens when you make a product that sells when finally everyone has one..?
Mosin Nagats: Fought against itself in major conflicts and won everytime :ok: T

erocktxmade | 10-08-2009 03:29 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by tekrunner (Post 1962065) erock, any word on when you guys start doing that again in the U.S.?
Let me clarify something. I am not Army nor any other branch of service. I was though once upon a time for 4 years and got out in 2004. I was a firefighter in Iraq on a contract with a private company for 2 years. I had nothing to do with the gathering of those weapons or placing the explosive charges on them. We were NOT allowed to step foot off base nor would I want to! The guys did actually offer for me or any other firefighter to detonate the explosive on their count if we wanted, but I declined. We were there as a precautionary measure in case a piece of shrapnel hit someone (EMS response) or hit something and caught fire (structural response), nothing else. If something like this happened in the US, I would have nothing to do with it.

AurumAg | 10-08-2009 04:52 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs That cloud resulting from the explosion reminds me of a giant question mark... ? What a waste of good AKs.

sindgefallen | 10-08-2009 05:00 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Cool stuff erock but that did not seem like 600 lbs of c-4 . More like 20 -50 based on my experience. Perhaps my judgement of the distance is off but perhaps not.

erocktxmade | 10-08-2009 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sindgefallen (Post 1962324) Cool stuff erock but that did not seem like 600 lbs of c-4 . More like 20 -50 based on my experience. Perhaps my judgement of the distance is off but perhaps not.
You may be right but I swear thats what they told me and also they said they shape the charge to blow down so that may have something to do with it as well, but I know next to nothing about explosives, let alone hook it all up and set it off... Edit: Also, we took the footage with a Canon Powershot digital camera zoomed all the way it would go and the distance was about a mile or more. But, again, you may be right...

Real Money Now | 10-08-2009 06:42 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs What an incredible waste of good firearms. We musn't let the Iraqi resistance have a means to defend themselves now, can we? And it's not like cutting or bending the AKs in half wouldn't be sufficient. Boys must play with their high-explosive toys.

pat pat | 10-08-2009 07:17 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs some of what we did was "necessary", blowing up ww1 pineapple grenades or homemade booby traps... but for the most part it is a waste. I guess the weapons makers need "more demand" war uses up weapons

JJ_ | 10-08-2009 09:07 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs http://shock.military.com/Shock/vide...RC=marine-a.nl

sindgefallen | 10-08-2009 09:59 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
You may be right but I swear thats what they told me and also they said they shape the charge to blow down so that may have something to do with it as well, but I know next to nothing about explosives, let alone hook it all up and set it off... Edit: Also, we took the footage with a Canon Powershot digital camera zoomed all the way it would go and the distance was about a mile or more. But, again, you may be right...
That makes sense then. I stand corrected. I was privy to watch 3 500lb bombs go off from about that distance once and it was friggin awesome. Literally blew me away with the shock wave. Fun times.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 10-08-2009 10:28 PM
Tragic... I could never destroy a serviceable AK. Never. It would be like destroying part of my own soul.

madfranks | 10-09-2009 10:05 AM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Historically, an invading army would be considered insane if they collected the spoils of war and then destroyed them like that. How many ounces of gold do you think that cache was worth? And then to destroy it, for nothing... what a shame.

Mantokir | 10-09-2009 10:19 AM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1963575) Historically, an invading army would be considered insane if they collected the spoils of war and then destroyed them like that. How many ounces of gold do you think that cache was worth? And then to destroy it, for nothing... what a shame.
Historically you'd be considered insane for putting the enemies lives above your own troops lives as well.. :-)

erocktxmade | 10-09-2009 12:06 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs I wanted to add that the reason they say be quiet at the end and to step aside is that we were listening for shrapnel to hit near us or the little brick Iraqi shack we were in. Nothing ever did.

Haltiat | 10-09-2009 12:09 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs All wars have a tendency to breed madness.

Real Money Now | 10-09-2009 12:51 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1963575) Historically, an invading army would be considered insane if they collected the spoils of war and then destroyed them like that. How many ounces of gold do you think that cache was worth? And then to destroy it, for nothing... what a shame.
The Military-Industrial Complex cannot sell new armaments if you keep the perfectly good old ones.

AG Capone | 10-09-2009 02:05 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs That is just sick... :puke:

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AG Capone | 10-09-2009 02:09 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 1961959) A good capitalist army would have sent those home as parts kits and set off the C4 anyway.
It looks like the AK's were stripped of their top covers & bolt carriers before being blown up. Maybe OP can chime in and tell us what's up with that.

Haltiat | 10-09-2009 02:25 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs Stripping a weapon is a field expedient way of making it inoperative. That may or may not be the reason those AK's were missing dust covers and bolt carriers.

optimestic1 | 10-09-2009 04:13 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs I agree with it being a waste to destroy them all like that. I always wondered until now about what happened to all the weapons that were found or confiscated there. With the new Iraqi military being formed, I figured some of the arms they were supplied with were ones that were taken from the old military and insurgents. But instead, they destroy what they already have, and then make the taxpayers pay to buy more. Pretty much what we should expect of our government, I guess.

morganchaser | 10-09-2009 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Thomas (Post 1961966) No no no, you don't get it, you can't sell anyone new shiny weapons if they are constantly repairing their old ones silly!
Broken window fallacy if anyone missed the sarcasm.

buff01 | 10-09-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs It's sad... nobody deserves to have their only piece of self defense equipment taken by a foreign military and blown up... I'd be ready to join al qaeda myself if I experienced it. And clearly the ones that were found were probably mostly friendly, otherwise they would have been really squirreled away. ...not to mention it's a waste of good (decent?) AKs!

morganchaser | 10-09-2009 05:28 PM
Re: Me And The Army Blowing Up A Cache Of AKs I'm at a loss. Is it really that difficult to transport these arms caches to the green zone to be exported to america? I understand that every convoy is a liability consisting of fuel consumption, not to mention public relations impact of dead soldiers, cost of labor, and the potential loss of a valuable signed asset.(trained & signed US serviceman) As high risk as traditional convoys are: imagine trying to move a wagon train with 10,000+ of AKs and RPGs without a hadji getting wind of it via a Blackwater/CIA mole. All the same: I have to wonder if this policy was really given sufficient thought. Ultimately: it's government, and the generals have no financial interest in running a efficient profitible operation. With all the arms dealers sucking their dicks: far from it. We could end the domestic recession by flooding the US market with cheap AKs and ammo until the US consumer goes back to spending their money on productive things like BBQs, new cars, and business start ups. Dog eat dog is a instinctual lightswitch triggered by a scarcity of resources. Hoarding continues until the subconscious is convinced that there will be no impending shortages, and that they are making poor investments tying up their liquidity on consumption beyond their needs. If the market quacks, smells, and walks like a bottom: the US consumer's anxiety is relieved and they begin to come out of the trenches to beat the mob to the grave robbing in the no-man zone. Flood the market to pacify the anxiety and the confidence game can go back to it's fractional reserve lending business as usual. Edit: The fire extinguishers are an especially obnoxious waste. I could solve the problem of Iraqi's unemployment given a cutting torch and 10,000 fire extinguishers, and during my lunch breaks: I would convert the AKs to parts kits.(BATFE demillings specs and everything)

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