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Contento | 02-23-2009 07:07 PM
What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? "This is Winchester 2007 in the sealed crate true military M855 and not XM855 ammo. 1680 rounds." guy's asking $1100...bout 65 cents a round Is there really a huge difference between this and the PMC, Federal, etc. you can buy for less than .50 cents a round?

gbgunner | 02-23-2009 07:17 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? If you've got the means I'd say buy it. From what I understand it's of a higher quality. Or at least held to higher QC measures. Hard to believe I was buying 500 rd boxes of XM-855 for $90 4 years ago. Whoops! That was XM 193 for $90. The 55 gr. I recall buying loose pack XM-855 for $230. Can't recall what the quantity was. Over a thousand though.

AurumAg | 02-23-2009 07:32 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? Quote:
Originally Posted by gbgunner (Post 1589198) If you've got the means I'd say buy it. From what I understand it's of a higher quality. Or at least held to higher QC measures. Hard to believe I was buying 500 rd boxes of XM-855 for $90 4 years ago.
Agreed! Ammo prices are reflecting a realistic combination of inflationary pressures, and an unprecedented commodity demand.

Contento | 02-23-2009 09:28 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? Hmm, while doing some research I found this- PICATINNY ARSENAL, N.J. -- The Army has completed a detailed study of the effectiveness of its standard-issue M855 5.56mm ammunition cartridge that is used in the M16 and the M4 rifles. The study found no significant difference between the M855 and commercially available 5.56mm rounds during close fighting. A team of military, scientific, medical, engineering and law enforcement experts conducted the study for the Army’s Project Manager, Maneuver Ammunition Systems located here. “All of the rounds studied performed in a band of effectiveness that will produce excellent results in real-life situations,” Col. Mark D. Rider said. The study sought to answer whether any commercial, off-the-shelf 5.56mm bullets that perform better than M855 against unarmored targets in Close Quarters Battle might be available. It was limited further to determining if the Army could quickly purchase and field a possible replacement for the M855 and did not consider replacing the current inventory of 5.56mm weapons with weapons of another caliber. “This was not a caliber study” Rider said. “However, it did find that the current family of 5.56mm weapons and the older 7.62mm M14 have the same potential effectiveness in the hands of a Warfighter during the heat of battle.” The study also showed an increase in lethal potential when the marksmanship technique of firing controlled pairs, i.e. firing two rounds in rapid succession, was used. Rider said the Army will continue to study variations in performance that some Soldiers and Marines to criticize the M855 while the overall majority are satisfied with its effectiveness. He also noted that researchers believe that interaction between the weapon and the bullet may be the root cause of “through-and-through.” In arriving at these conclusions, the team developed ground-breaking tools and methodologies that apply sophisticated modeling and equipment normally reserved for the study of high-dollar systems such as tanks and artillery to less costly weapons for the very first time. As a result, new standards for testing small caliber ammunition are emerging that will help bring the science of more costly system to individual weapon. Rider said that his organization is beginning to study how commercially available rounds perform against common battlefield barriers like body armor, car doors, and windshield glass compared to the M855. Answers to these questions will help improve the lethal capability of the ground forces for decades into the future, he said.

Rebel Yarr | 02-23-2009 09:44 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? Only ammo I could find today in town that wasn't crap was - Federal M193 5.56mm - $450 + tax. That's 55 gr - I believe that M855 is 62 grain.....light armored application hmmm.... It isn't cheap - or a deal - but I'd grab it if I had the extra cash to spend on battle ammo. I wouldn't target shoot with it though. If you are tight on cash with your preps I wouldn't bother. I have been hoping to wait out these prices - but it appears not. Her eis a 1k can gunbroker - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=123547806 cheaperthandirt.com also has some

Burl Ives | 02-23-2009 10:23 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? Crimped primers in this? Only really matters if your planning to reload the brass or not, but something to consider.

Contento | 02-24-2009 02:31 AM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? hmm, I might try and bargain with the guy. I don't wanna drive down to Oregon unless it's a decent deal.

Twisted Avatar | 02-24-2009 07:34 AM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? If you havethe money to spare. GET IT. Time is short........very short. T

Walter Mitty | 02-24-2009 08:10 AM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? I think you are wasting your money. That is $654.00/1000. I just bought some federal xm193 for $349/1000 ( $373.00/1000 with tax). Offer him $380.00/1000. If he says no I would walk. Just my .02.

Fatboy | 02-24-2009 08:56 AM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? Quote:
Originally Posted by Contento (Post 1589496) From the article posted above: “This was not a caliber study” Rider said. “However, it did find that the current family of 5.56mm weapons and the older 7.62mm M14 have the same potential effectiveness in the hands of a Warfighter during the heat of battle.”
Not to steal your thread, but..... While there may be some advantages of the 5.56 cartridge, I think this statement may be a stretch. I have read before that he 7.62 makes cover into concealment when compared to the 5.56.

CyberGold | 02-24-2009 02:28 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? "the same potential effectiveness in the hands of a Warfighter during the heat of battle" Naw... what they are saying is that it doesn't matter which one you are using, in the heat of battle you will fire about the same number of rounds per qualified hit - therfore the "potential effectivness" & "heat of battle" qualifiers That price is a bit high, current rate is about .45 -.50 a round

Contento | 02-24-2009 06:00 PM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Mitty (Post 1590173) I think you are wasting your money. That is $654.00/1000. I just bought some federal xm193 for $349/1000 ( $373.00/1000 with tax). Offer him $380.00/1000. If he says no I would walk. Just my .02.
Ha! you read my mind I bought a couple boxes of XM193 last night from Midway, $207/per 500

Eulenspiegel | 02-25-2009 12:28 AM
Re: What would you pay for this 5.56 ammo? I may be mistaken, but military ammunition (i.e. real M193 and M855) can no longer be surplused. Thus XM193 (which was 'rejected' by the military, never purchased by them, and thus available for us.) I'd be a bit hesitant about buying this ammo unless I knew the provenance.

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