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Pounces On Ounces | 05-15-2009 08:01 AM
Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series The title pretty much says it. I want to purchase my 1st 22LR soon, ammo prices & availability being factors. It will be my 1st long gun, other than a Mossberg 500 shotty This would just be for target practice, plinking, & small game here & there. I know everyone & their mother talks about the 10/22, but it is really worth the difference in price? My income has been slashed this past year like alot of others, so value counts. I won't be adding hundreds in accessories, just a basic scope & a bunch of ammo. Thoughts?

TechGuy | 05-15-2009 08:08 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series If you aren't planning on blasting 30rd clips then the marlin is a fine rifle and does very well for hunting small game. t Target gun: 10/22 Utility: Marlin I have found the 10/22 to be a bit more picky about ammo types.

Ares | 05-15-2009 08:19 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series My Dad and my brother have the Marlin 60. Damn good 22 and is accurate as hell. They don't make the 18 round internal magazine anymore (standard new off the line now is 15rd), but you can still find them. But I would recommend the Marlin, but it's a bias suggestion. :)

TUMS | 05-15-2009 08:22 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Another vote for Marlin

TomD | 05-15-2009 08:55 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series 2 Attachment(s) Here from the May 2008 issue of Gun Tests Magazine is a comparison test of the Marlin, a Remington and the Ruger. Though the Marlin was the cheapest, they like it best. BTW: plug for Gun Tests Mag, a year's subscription is cheap and you have access to their online multi-year archive and tests of virtually every gun you've ever heard of. May 2008 Tricky Trio of 22 Autoloaders: Marlin Tops Remington, Ruger Marlin�s Model 60 pleases us, and Remington�s 597 SS was right up there. But Ruger�s laser-sighted 10/22 left us clutching our wallet and wondering if its technology was worth it. The 22 autoloading rifle is an American icon. Many a youngster had one for his first rifle, and while they may not be ideal for that service, they are unquestionably handy rifles for any serious outdoorsman. They can also be excellent training pieces for just about anyone interested in serious shooting. We found three semiautomatic 22 LR rifles at the local gun shop. They were the Marlin Model 60 with tubular magazine and hardwood stock ($179), the Remington 597 SS with stainless barrel and synthetic stock ($283), and a Ruger-made 10/22 Model 1163 LZ distributor�s special, available through your dealer, with camo stock and laser sight ($526). The tricky laser got our attention. We couldn�t resist a good hard look at what it had to offer, other than a scary price tag. 22 LR Riﬂes These three 22 LR riﬂes each brought different answers to the question of building the best 22 autoloader. Though we liked the cheapest one with the wood stock, which was the Marlin in the center, the all-gray Remington with its stainless barrel captivated us as well. The costly and thus downgraded Ruger (left) was a very interesting riﬂe, well worth considering�despite our relatively low grade�if you have a need for its ﬁnish and laser. Although two of the guns would accept tip-off scope rings and two were drilled for traditional scope bases (the Remington had both), we chose to shoot �em with the iron sights provided. One of our reasons was to help us assess the laser sight on the Ruger. Would it prove to be useful in dim light, or against a questionable background where iron sights or even a scope would be hard to use? We intended to find out if that was a useful addition to the rifle, or just another sales gimmick. We tested with three types of ammunition: Winchester Super-X Power Point HP, Aguila Supermaximum Hyper Velocity (yes, that�s really the name) solid point (flat nose), and CCI Mini Mag round-nose ammunition. Here is what we found. Marlin Model 60 22 LR, $179 We immediately took to this wood-stocked little rifle, which we found selling for $143 retail. The feel was solid, and we liked the thought of shooting a relatively warm-stocked hardwood stock in cold weather. Our suspicions were correct. This was the most comfortable stock on our shooter�s faces. Our first surprise was that this rifle held 14 rounds, and you could get 15 into it if you wanted. The stock was birch, slab-sawn, with a walnut-like finish. Birch is an excellent choice for gun stocks, and can have attractive grain. This one was fairly plain. The wood finish was impeccable, smooth and slick and offering excellent protection against nicks and dings. There was no checkering. The styling was classic, with the addition of a hump on the butt to get your face higher if you wanted to use a scope. The iron sights presented a really good sight picture. The front blade was flat on top and the rear, though a U notch, had a wide, flat top so elevation was not a question. The width of the U notch was just right for the size of the front sight. The rear was adjustable via the ancient spring-and-wedge system for elevation, and by drifting for windage. We had to make slight adjustments to both, for our eyes. The flat-topped front blade had a square whitish insert that caught the light and provided a much better picture than if it had been simply plain black. Camouﬂage Patterned Rifle There�s a riﬂe there in the grass, but if you take your eyes off it, you might lose it. The camouﬂage pattern on the 10/22 worked extremely well in spring ground cover. The steel barrel was polished well and blued without excess glare. It plugged into a black-matte, alloy receiver that had grooves on top for a scope, but was not drilled. The trigger guard was polymer with a matte black finish. The magazine tube was blued steel, with a brass inner tube for the cartridges. A twist opened it, and as in days of old, you poured your fresh rounds into the magazine until it held no more. A tug on the bolt handle chambered the first round. Practicality told us that with a chambered round we didn�t want to open that magazine and put in a 15th round, because doing so would expose our hand to the hot muzzle. The rifle�s safety was a cross bolt behind the trigger, in the back of the guard. We don�t like these, but there you have it. It worked well enough. After the last shot the bolt stays partly open, and we liked that. A bolt stop permits closing it if desired, or you can lock the bolt open any time you want by pressing forward on the bolt-stop lever. On the range we found loading the rifle very easy. All operations worked to perfection, and the rifle performed flawlessly throughout our test shooting. The trigger pull was consistent and clean at 5.6 pounds. We thought it was the best trigger of the trio. Our groups were all between 1.5 and 2 inches, with occasional bursts of brilliance that we believe would easily justify a scope. We saw many groups with four of the five shots well under an inch, at 50 yards, with a fifth spoiling it. We suspect this was our fault, not the rifle�s. This rifle was the only one that tolerated the extremely high velocity of the Aguila ammo, making several groups well Removable Rifle Buttplate We gently pried off the buttplate of the Remington and discovered this perhaps useful cache. Fishing gear? Survival items? Matches? That�s up to you, if you choose to use it. under 2 inches. Velocity was 1450 fps out of this rifle, which is stepping right along. Remington 597 SS No. 26565 22 LR, $283 This rifle seemed to be designed for the right-handed shooter, though the stock was entirely ambidextrous. The design is also available with blued barrel for an incredibly low $188; blued with scope for $229; in a laminated-stock, heavy-barrel version ($337); and with laminated stock and stainless barrel ($348). Another of the many versions in multiple colors (including pink) is a thumbhole-stock version called the 597 TVP with heavy stainless barrel and scope rail for $532. Many more may be seen at the company website (remington.com). This was an exceptionally clean-looking rifle. Its finish let light into all its dark areas, which helped the overall clean look. The light-gray stock looked like costly Kevlar, but was not. The free-floated barrel was matte stainless, and plugged into an alloy receiver having a similar finish. The barrel, receiver, and stock were entirely glare free. Though the iron sights were blued, they were also matte finished. Likewise the plastic trigger-guard and butt-plate finishes were dull. This rifle simply didn�t shine, and that�s all to the good. The non-glare matte finish was excellent in the field, just what you want for serious use. The finishes would also fight weather over the years. We found the stock to be extremely hand filling, and highly attractive as well. We thought this was by no means a youth�s rifle. The dimensions were pure adult. The forend was wide and comfortable, and the pistol grip was also on the large side. There was no checkering, but it didn�t seem to need it. The stock had a slightly pebbly surface, rough enough to keep the gun from slipping when wet. The butt plate was checkered to help hold the rifle in place on the shoulder. We noticed the butt plate seemed slightly loose, so we carefully pried it out. Whether by design or by accident there is a nice storage area inside the stock that could probably be put to good use by the clever outdoorsman. Remington went to the extent of Teflon-nickel-coating some of the guts, like the bolt and sear-engagement parts, to ensure smoothness and long life. The bolt was noticeably slick and clean in its movement. We liked the fact that the bolt stays open after last shot, an excellent feature shared by the Marlin, but conspicuously missing from the Ruger. The iron sights were matte blued, and attached to the barrel with screws. The front was a round-top bead with a large white dot, Remington Teﬂon-Nickel-Coated Parts Remington Teﬂon-nickel-coated some of the internal parts, such as the bolt (right arrow) and sear-engagement parts (left arrow), to ensure smoothness and long life. We thought the bolt was very slick and clean, and we liked that it stayed open after the last shot. which was highly visible. The rear was one of the common U-notch sights, a bit too small for best use but fully functional and adjustable. The sights required lots of movement to the left and some added elevation to get the shots centered. Windage was easily changed with a screwdriver. An Allen wrench was needed to loosen the sight�s clamping action to change elevation. We liked the sight setup, though we wanted a wider gap in the rear blade, and would have preferred a flat top to the front post. The trigger guard and integral magazine well were polymer, and worked very well for their tasks. The magazine release button was slick and handy. The mag held ten rounds, but we had the devil of a time getting the last one in. The safety button was behind the trigger guard like that on the Remington 870 shotgun. We don�t know of anyone who likes this setup, but if you have an 870 you�ll know where to find this 22 rifle�s safety. As with all three guns, a press toward the left displays a red ring if you turn the gun upside down, and that lets you fire. The trigger pull was just over six pounds, and somewhat variable from shot to shot on this new rifle. It settled down as more rounds went through the rifle, and became stable by the end of our testing. We thought it was a decent trigger, though a bit on the heavy side. On the range, after we got the sights where we wanted them, we found the Remington easily made sub-two-inch groups at 50 yards with the CCI Mini Mags. It didn�t like the Aguila ammunition whatsoever, often flinging one or two of a five-shot string completely off the paper. We know not where they all went, but found one of them some nine inches out of the main group. The wayward shot landed head on. Velocity was a stunning 1645 fps out of the Remington, highest speed of the three rifles. We saw several groups of three shots around an inch, but we had fired five, and the other two were simply not there. This is not a condemnation of the Remington by any means. Clearly the high-speed Aguila ammunition is not for every rifle. Ruger 10/22 Camo Model 1163 LZ 22 LR, $526 This rifle appears on the Ruger website (www.ruger.com) only as a distributor�s special. A call to Ruger got us the information that this rifle was commissioned by the big distributor AcuSport, and a call to AcuSport confirmed they have them in stock as of this writing. Your dealer ought to be able to order one from any of the AcuSport outlets nationwide. (www.acusport.com) What we have here is a camo-stocked Ruger 10/22 with a laser built into the forend. As we�ve all seen on TV, the red dot is the Marlin 60-Series Riﬂe One of the nice things about the winning Marlin 60-series riﬂe is the ﬁnish choices available for it. Top is a camo version, followed by a laminate/stainless combo, then a synthetic/stainless gun. visual kiss of death for the bad guys. But as any rifleman can tell you, the idea of using a laser on a sniper rifle is ludicrous. When stealth is the idea, don�t advertise your presence. And the same can probably be said of a laser on a 22 rifle. If you point a red dot at yonder rat, will he stand still for it? Maybe, though many of us doubt it. The camo finish on this rifle was excellent. It covered everything, including the barrel, trigger guard and butt plate. Only the bolt and its handle, iron sights, trigger, magazine, and laser body were not coated with the camouflage covering. We put the rifle on top of some springtime ground cover and nearly lost it, it�s that good. The stock had good prominent checkering on pistol grip and forend. There was a button on the left side of the forend, where the right-handed shooter�s thumb, or lefty�s index finger, normally fell. Press the button and the laser�s red dot shoots out from the front of the forend. As we found, the laser can be easily adjusted with a tiny Allen wrench to correspond with your iron sights. Why would anyone want this? Well, iron sights and even a scope will often not show a clear aiming point in questionable light. But that laser surely will. The other side of the coin is that you have to be sure of what you�re shooting at, and the laser will not help you do that. So, how well did the Ruger look and perform, the laser notwithstanding? The workmanship was just fine, as is common with Ruger firearms. The safety was again a cross bolt, but at the front of the trigger guard, which we liked more than the setup on the other two rifles. The stock butt gave out a loud, hollow sound when rapped, that didn�t seem quite right to us. The sights were the standard Ruger folding rear, with large white diamond, adjustable for elevation with a tiny screwdriver and by drifting for windage. We had to knock it to the right significantly to get it on the paper, but elevation was okay. The front bead gave us the common lousy American sight picture, and the rear blade was so far down in its mount that there was not much of a flat to judge elevation. The front dot had a gold bead, and that helped us see it in odd light. The rifle was drilled for scope mounting, but there were no tip-off grooves. The time-proven Ruger ten-shot magazine came out with a hefty push and pinch, a movement that will bust the fingernails of some, and please the dickens out of others. On the range we found the Ruger got its best accuracy with the Winchester HP stuff. Best groups were right at an inch. Like the Remington, the 10/22 didn�t like the Aguila ammo, putting it (all five, with no missing flyers) into groups close to four inches. We didn�t care for the trigger pull here. It averaged 5.8 pounds clean, but despite the wide trigger, the pull felt heavier than it measured. We see why there are after-market trigger assemblies sold for the 10/22. We adjusted the laser to our sights and then tried groups of three fast shots, using first the sights and then the laser. The iron sights proved to be faster for our shooters, who are trained to look at the front sight. The use of the laser required the shooter to focus on the target, which to untrained shooters seems logical. But that�s not the way most guns work, and we thought this system would take considerable time for us to become accustomed to. Also, the light amplified the shake aspect, which some of us found disconcerting. There was no practical difference in accuracy, in these 20-yard offhand tests.

JJ_ | 05-15-2009 09:12 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Other than the Fun Factor w/ the 10/22 - I just dont see the need to have to mess with magazines for a 22LR. Nothing really wrong with it. I've got a M60 and I just love it and yes it'll shoot the ass off a gnat. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...Stroke/m60.jpg

MilitantOne | 05-15-2009 09:32 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series My vote goes for marlin. Have owned 4 being 60, 81dl, 881T, 981T Super accurate guns and the 981T can shoot 22 short 22 long & 22 long rifle Picked mine up for 150.00 with synthetic stock.

ruprick | 05-15-2009 09:42 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Marlin makes beautiful guns. So does Ruger.....either is a great choice. I just bought 3 Ruger 10/22 in Stainless/Synthetic this past winter....stocking up .....it is the most popular 22 I can think of....if you don't like these super big mags hanging out the bottom of the gun....you can just use the 10 rounders the gun was designed for..... If you have no other long gun....probably get the Ruger...in a pinch....I'd take a ruger with a 30+ round magazine as a pretty useful fighting rifle.....nice to just crank another mag into the bottom of the gun and keep shooting..... Why buck the trend.....just get the Ruger....then later...get the Marlin as well....we're only talking a little under $200.....thats the cost of a good pair of boots.....not too long ago a full tank of gasoline in my truck.....at $200 - $300 these days stock up on a bunch of guns.....a great way to step away from FRNs.....go buy a half dozen....they are not going down in price and you can still find ammo just about everywhere....that may not be the case longterm. I bet a case of 22LR ammo and the most basic Ruger 10/22 will fetch $1000 for the combo in the not too diatant future.

TomD | 05-15-2009 09:49 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1723881) I bet a case of 22LR ammo and the most basic Ruger 10/22 will fetch $1000 for the combo in the not too distant future.
Future! How about now, there are places selling 550 round packs of 22 LR for $48!

voodoo1951 | 05-15-2009 09:49 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series I own 2 Marlin 60's (one is OLD and the other is just a few years old) and they are both tack drivers/reliable and cheap to buy and shoot...My vote= "MARLIN 60":applause_:applause_:applause_

Pounces On Ounces | 05-15-2009 01:30 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Thanks for all the responses guys. I was leaning towards the Marlin anyway, just wanted to be sure I wasn't making a bad call. Ruprick, I'd like to get both (& just may down the line), but finances put me at either or at the moment. I don't think I could ever really view a .22 as a fighting rifle, though. More of a useful tool. I do plan on picking up a battle rifle in a few months; AR -Vs- AK most likely will be the next judgement call. Any particular scope suggestions for the Marlin?

SLV>GLD | 05-15-2009 01:46 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by Pounces On Ounces (Post 1724193) I don't think I could ever really view a .22 as a fighting rifle, though.
It is a stretch but if you've ever chased a tennis ball around a range smacking it with every single shot fired while pulling the trigger as fast as you can you might consider the possibilities. The only other weapon I could compare in follow-up shot speed and accuracy was the 9mm Hi-Point carbine.

ruprick | 05-15-2009 01:49 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1723890) Future! How about now, there are places selling 550 round packs of 22 LR for $48!
You are right....it is getting close......at $48/brick....that is a $480 case....(10 bricks to a case...). I figure you can still find a 500 round brick for about $25 - $30.......so a case should be $250 - $300......add in a $200 - $250 rifle.....we are talking $500....and this could esily double in the next year or two depending on availability of the ammo.....and the rifle......does not seem to be any runs on 22LR rifles these days. I love a 22LR....you can do a lot of work with them.....I've seen deer dropped right in their tracks with head a shots. People don't think much of the 22LR.....I remember the guy going "postal" right here in Royal Oak Michigan about 15 years ago...killed 6 people at the post office with a cut down Ruger 10/22. Out to 100 yards....you would not want anyone plinking at you with one.... You put a half dozen shots on target with your 22LR and it is like catching a load of buckshot from a 20 ga.....which is a very effective deer killer. In my book.....Deer = Man. Let's put it this way.....I'd take a Ruger 10/22 over a high capacity pistol under just about any circumstances. There is a perfect gun for every application.....but a 22LR can do a lot of things. I'm not saying a 22LR is a good substitute for a battle rifle.....but it will work in a pinch....and they are very high capacity. But best of all - they are economical to shoot - and a great all around survival rifle.

Pounces On Ounces | 05-15-2009 02:00 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1724214) It is a stretch but if you've ever chased a tennis ball around a range smacking it with every single shot fired while pulling the trigger as fast as you can you might consider the possibilities. The only other weapon I could compare in follow-up shot speed and accuracy was the 9mm Hi-Point carbine.
I guess I could see that being useful, but really a .22 being used defensively would depend heavily upon shot placement. Which I plan on working on, since I can actually afford to shoot .22 often:biggrin: But I still think I'd reach for the Mossberg and/or Glock before the .22 in almost any defensive situation. I already picked up 600 rounds of 22LR CCI Mini-Mags, for around $35! When I think of how long it took me to stock up 600 rounds of 9mm Gold Dots, & how much it cost me, the 22 just keeps sounding better & better :RockOn:

SLV>GLD | 05-15-2009 02:01 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1724218) I figure you can still find a 500 round brick for about $25 - $30
I don't know where to find them for more than $19.99. I am speaking fo the bottom dollar bricks, of course.

SLV>GLD | 05-15-2009 02:02 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by Pounces On Ounces (Post 1724230) But I still think I'd reach for the Mossberg and/or Glock before the .22 in almost any defensive situation.
Make no mistake, me too!

TomD | 05-15-2009 02:20 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series 2 Attachment(s) If you go to Midway, you could buy the cheap 500 round boxes of 22, if they had any to sell. Midway has 13 pages of 22 ammo types, they are sold out of everything except the very expensive stuff like Lapua, Fed Match, Eley and so on. So I guess it goes you can buy the cheap stuff if you can find any cheap stuff to buy. Edit: and another 22ammo.com good prices if they actually had some

SLV>GLD | 05-15-2009 02:31 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Speaking of MidwayUSA, does everyone else experience a crawling slow site or is it just me? Been that way for a month or so, now.

TomD | 05-15-2009 02:37 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1724277) Speaking of MidwayUSA, does everyone else experience a crawling slow site or is it just me? Been that way for a month or so, now.
Yeah, just now it took forever for the pages to load, almost down to dial up speeds.

RKaz | 05-15-2009 04:06 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Speaking of 10/22's - anyone know of a good source to get a higher capacity magazine? All I have right now for mine are the normal 10 rounders..

SLV>GLD | 05-15-2009 04:12 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by RKaz (Post 1724411) Speaking of 10/22's - anyone know of a good source to get a higher capacity magazine? All I have right now for mine are the normal 10 rounders..
Gander Mountain, for sure. All the other places I know of are local. MidwayUSA sells them online but I don't know their availability. The ones I have have experience with are the Butler Creek Steel Lipped ones. they are 25 round mags. The BC speed loader is a worthwhile investment if you have several magazines, they load any other kind including the factory mags just fine.

markt | 05-15-2009 04:59 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series My 10/22 with Tactical Innovations aluminum 25-round mag: [IMG]http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...old/AK22-1.jpg[/IMG]

bfnelson | 05-15-2009 05:00 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1724218) You are right....it is getting close......at $48/brick....that is a $480 case....(10 bricks to a case...). I figure you can still find a 500 round brick for about $25 - $30.......so a case should be $250 - $300......add in a $200 - $250 rifle.....we are talking $500....and this could esily double in the next year or two depending on availability of the ammo.....and the rifle......does not seem to be any runs on 22LR rifles these days. .
Damn I can't believe that. My Walmart has em for $12 or so and I thought that was bad.

graspAU | 05-15-2009 05:41 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series 1 Attachment(s) Whichever on you pick, buy 2 so you have a full set of spare parts. I purchased the one Ruger sells just to Walmart. It is stainless and has a 22" barrel. Last year they were $238 each. sighted them in a 50 yards and they both performed extremley well.

MetalManiac | 05-15-2009 06:09 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series :coolbeer: Great idea. What scopes you runnin' on those?

Pounces On Ounces | 05-15-2009 06:59 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Thanks, guys. I just went out & picked up the Marlin. :ok: $179 & I got 'em to throw in a box of Win Super X. Not bad! I really wanted the model with a stainless steel barrel, but I called around & nobody had one in stock. Really like the wood stock, looks classy! Now, to find a scope...

Pounces On Ounces | 05-15-2009 07:11 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1724266) If you go to Midway, you could buy the cheap 500 round boxes of 22, if they had any to sell. Midway has 13 pages of 22 ammo types, they are sold out of everything except the very expensive stuff like Lapua, Fed Match, Eley and so on. So I guess it goes you can buy the cheap stuff if you can find any cheap stuff to buy. Edit: and another 22ammo.com good prices if they actually had some
Thanks, Tom I actually read threads on another board about wally world & others being completely out of 22LR in some states. No signs of that at all in these parts, by why wait & gamble on future availability? I've already got nearly 1,000 rounds & haven't even put one thru the rifle yet LOL I'll have to keep an eye on those websites though, nice prices.

Tragedy Trousers | 05-15-2009 07:19 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Anyone own a Henry Rifle. Really nice but man the price. http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifles.cfm http://www.henryrepeating.com/images...ldenboy_lg.jpg

Fullpower | 05-15-2009 07:37 PM
Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series ALL questions of this nature are correctly answered thus: Buy BOTH. After a thorough consideration, one purchases additonal units of the favored weapon.

Shasta Gold | 05-15-2009 08:07 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1724277) Speaking of MidwayUSA, does everyone else experience a crawling slow site or is it just me? Been that way for a month or so, now.
Same here, at least for two weeks in my experience.

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UncaScrooge | 05-15-2009 08:47 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1724214) It is a stretch but if you've ever chased a tennis ball around a range smacking it with every single shot fired while pulling the trigger as fast as you can you might consider the possibilities. The only other weapon I could compare in follow-up shot speed and accuracy was the 9mm Hi-Point carbine.
That's a REALLY NICE ENDORSEMENT of the Hi-Point 995! I just picked one up last Friday... shot it with my brother at 25 yards using the ghost ring sights, without any adjustments to the default settings...1" circles at 25 yards... looks like a keeper! Tuned up etc... I think it'll be great at 50 yards and more.

UncaScrooge | 05-15-2009 08:49 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series [QUOTE=ruprick;1724218]You are right....it is getting close......at $48/brick....that is a $480 case....(10 bricks to a case...). I figure you can still find a 500 round brick for about $25 - $30.......so a case should be $250 - $300......add in a $200 - $250 rifle.....we are talking $500....and this could esily double in the next year or two depending on availability of the ammo.....and the rifle......does not seem to be any runs on 22LR rifles these days. .................................................. ........................... A local sporting goods store occasionally sets out CCI "standard velocity" bricks for 24.99 plus tax... I can live with that... and buy 'em everytime they show up. :biggrin:

UncaScrooge | 05-15-2009 08:52 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1724218) I love a 22LR....you can do a lot of work with them.....I've seen deer dropped right in their tracks with head a shots.
A hunter locally I know decided "for the fun of it" to see if he could bag a deer with a 22 (gets his quota of turkeys and deer each season). One shot in the head... it ran about 40-50 yards and gave up. Don't think I'm good enough to do that, but it's gratifying to know that proper shot placement with a 22 does "wonders"... as a gunshop owner told me years and years ago.

UncaScrooge | 05-15-2009 08:56 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by RKaz (Post 1724411) Speaking of 10/22's - anyone know of a good source to get a higher capacity magazine? All I have right now for mine are the normal 10 rounders..
The TI mags are established as being reliable and bulletproof... but $75 for a 25 round magazine!!! :36_1_25: I've bought one, may get as many as three more... BUT... There's this "tri-mag" dealie on the market... rock-solid and superior to the dual and quad dealies.... you "connect" three mags together. When one mag is empty, you eject, rotate, and slide in the next one.... doesn't take long. Costs about 12-15 bucks depending... cheaper than a TI mag.... ordered one off EBay this morning, and will compare against the TI's in terms of function and "utility."

UncaScrooge | 05-15-2009 08:58 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by graspAU (Post 1724543) Whichever on you pick, buy 2 so you have a full set of spare parts. I purchased the one Ruger sells just to Walmart. It is stainless and has a 22" barrel. Last year they were $238 each. sighted them in a 50 yards and they both performed extremley well.
I bought a Charger recently, decided to "upgrade" it.... result? Left with spare parts. So, what did I do? Just bought another Charger receiver to build a second pistol. Agree: two is one. Spare parts never hurt.

UncaScrooge | 05-15-2009 09:12 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by Tragedy Trousers (Post 1724684) Anyone own a Henry Rifle. Really nice but man the price. http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifles.cfm http://www.henryrepeating.com/images...ldenboy_lg.jpg
The price leaves me standing on the side of the road, watching those guns whiz past me!

Usury | 05-15-2009 10:21 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by Pounces On Ounces (Post 1724193) Thanks for all the responses guys. I was leaning towards the Marlin anyway, just wanted to be sure I wasn't making a bad call. Ruprick, I'd like to get both (& just may down the line), but finances put me at either or at the moment. I don't think I could ever really view a .22 as a fighting rifle, though. More of a useful tool. I do plan on picking up a battle rifle in a few months; AR -Vs- AK most likely will be the next judgement call. Any particular scope suggestions for the Marlin?
Ruger 10/22.....BANE OF THE ZOMBIES!!!!! :yes:

King_Squais | 05-15-2009 11:42 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu22.htm This guy has a bunch of tests. Testing ammo penetration and different firearms.

dimitri | 05-16-2009 01:41 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1724277) Speaking of MidwayUSA, does everyone else experience a crawling slow site or is it just me? Been that way for a month or so, now.
Midway has been extremely sluggish the last couple months for me. My vote is for the Marlin 60 - I received a used one as a kid about 20 years ago and it has been the most reliable rifle in my arsenal. I broke it down, completely, for the first time less than a year ago and it was full of pollen and other field-savvy objects. It has never failed on me and has fired every type of ammo that my other .22LRs have choked on. I have a lot of experience shooting 10/22s as well and I still vouch for the Marlin 60.

noelephant | 05-16-2009 08:36 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series I suppose it depends what you are looking for. Both are high quality, accurate firearms. I tend to shoot my 10/22 more because I like the removable magazine at the range and the tech sites that I put on it. My Marlin is a bit more reliable and less picky on ammo types. I can't recall the last jam / misfire that I had on it. Both are great. I have no plans to sell either.

TUMS | 05-16-2009 11:14 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Quote:
Originally Posted by Tragedy Trousers (Post 1724684) Anyone own a Henry Rifle. Really nice but man the price.
No Henry. I have a Marlin 39a and a Winchester 9422. Also have a browning BL-22. The Browning BL-22 was my first rifle ever. When I was a youngin.

Ag_man | 05-16-2009 11:18 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series I'm glad to see the support for the Marlin 60. A lot of posts about .22 rifles begin and end with the 10/22. My first rifle I bought for myself was a Glenfield 60 ( a 2nd rate Marlin) and it was a very accurate rifle, but tended to jam. I didn't know shyte about .22 ammo way back then and that may have had something to do with it. I have a Marlin 925 bolt action .22 and I am very impressed with the workmanship and the accuracy. It has a centerfire rifle feel to it. I also have a couple of 10/22's, but my next .22 rifle will be a Marlin 60.

voodoo1951 | 05-16-2009 02:57 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Here is a pic of my M-60 w/ cheap Tasco scope. It can shoot the staples off targets @ 100 yards all day long without a hiccup...Very inexpensive and widely available...This is the only rifle that even gets any range time these days w/ the ammo situation being what it is...:banghead::thumpdown:bawling: http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...arlin60004.jpg

Pounces On Ounces | 05-24-2009 11:52 PM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series Well I took out the new Marlin M60 out to the range today. All I can say is WOW. Really nice groups at decent distance right out of the box, & with cheapo bulk ammo to boot. I'm sure the Nikon ProStaff scope helped out a bit. 4x seems to be plenty for a .22 at 50-60 yards or so. Anyway, I'm very impressed with the M60 & look forward to putting many thousands of rounds through it over the next several years. Thanks again to all who suggested the M60 over the 10/22. :ok:

Shasta Gold | 05-25-2009 12:46 AM
Re: Ruger 10/22 -Vs- Marlin 60 Series We recently got our boy his own rifle. We looked at...well, actually, we looked for a Marlin, but no one had them in stock. So he got the 10/22.

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