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still afloat | 09-09-2009 09:41 AM
There has to be an easier way . Ok , probably a simple slap my head why didn't I think about that answer coming up but the answer just ain't coming up in my trials. ok , I have 1 good arm/hand no use of left arm at all . I have mags in .22 , .9mm and .45 ranging from 10 rounds to 30 rounds each . .22 mags not that hard to get loaded , .9mm gets harder after about 7 or 8 rounds gets realy hard to get the mag topped off . On the .45 after about the same on a 10 round mag its almost impossible to get the last 1 or 2 loaded .Havent even tried to load the 30 rounders yet so don't know how tight / strong the springs are with them and how many rounds I could get in before its too strong .Right now its just hold the mag in my hand and press each round in and down with my thumb , not exactly a speedy way to load a mag. I've seen the speed loaders , watched them in use on youtube but they require 2 hands to use the ones I've seen . 1 hand squeezes the grip second hand drops in the round , release the grip , squeeze again and drop in second round repeat till full . back to one hand , can't do that . Any suggestions on an easy / easier way to load mags using only one hand . I've though about using a wood rod to depress the spring and drilling a hole near the bottom of the mag to stick a pin in to hold it down, remove the rod then dropping in the rounds till full and then pulling the pin to release the spring .Have not tried that yet as dont want to drill a good mag if there is an easier way. Thanks for any and all suggestions.

Bx3 | 09-09-2009 11:50 AM
Re: There has to be an easier way . 1 Attachment(s) There is.http://www.maglula.com/ I have these for both rifle and pistol mags and they work great! BTW, I would recommend downloading by 1 round anyways. It aids in the cycling action and can help prevent some malfunctions.Bx3:coolbeer:

still afloat | 09-09-2009 01:14 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . That's one of the ones I watched the video for on youtube and it appears it still requires 2 hands . Try to load a mag with yours and let me know how it goes with one hand .Right hand if you don't mind .If it works , it would be great. Thanks.

C&L 1911 | 09-09-2009 01:30 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Have you tried holding the mag in your armpit while loading it with your "working" hand? I've shot several times with a guy who only had one arm, and he was very proficient with his 1911 - loading, unloading, tactical reloads, malfunction drills, etc. I'm pretty sure that's how he loaded his magazines.

Libertarian_Guard | 09-09-2009 01:40 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Quote:
Originally Posted by still afloat (Post 1911799) Ok , probably a simple slap my head why didn't I think about that answer coming up but the answer just ain't coming up in my trials. ok , I have 1 good arm/hand no use of left arm at all .
Well you better come up with something. Don't surrender by only putting one arm in the air, as you might only be taken half seriously, and shot. :36_1_63:

still afloat | 09-09-2009 01:52 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Quote:
Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1912103) Have you tried holding the mag in your armpit while loading it with your "working" hand? I've shot several times with a guy who only had one arm, and he was very proficient with his 1911 - loading, unloading, tactical reloads, malfunction drills, etc. I'm pretty sure that's how he loaded his magazines.
My left arm has no use at all , nerve damage , so it just hangs there with a perminant bend to the arm at the elbow .*L* at times the way it hangs it looks like I'm adjusting or playin' with myself . So I have no clamping ability to hold it in the pit. Right now I just sit the but of the mag against my chest and press the rounds into it . yes it leaves black and blue marks after a few mags are loaded .

still afloat | 09-09-2009 02:01 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertarian_Guard (Post 1912127) Well you better come up with something. Don't surrender by only putting one arm in the air, as you might only be taken half seriously, and shot. :36_1_63:
yep I can see myself getting shot after hearing , freeze , hands in the air . he's going for a gun . Bang X 20

Rebel Yarr | 09-09-2009 03:36 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Why not use a revolver?

FireMattMillen | 09-09-2009 04:03 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . How about you set up a clamp, and then load your mags? http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0...AAAAAGCcZw.jpg

hypervel | 09-09-2009 04:05 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Could the LULA be mounted on a table end or something such that you could use your knee to supply upward pressure on the mag bottom, then feed the round in with your hand?

still afloat | 09-09-2009 04:09 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . good question , only answers I can give are stability , with time to pull hammer back before each shot , no problem . if needing to pull off more that 1 shot in short time I'll admit with revolver my pattern is not as tight as I feel comfortable with .With semi auto first shot about the same as revolver but next shots are tighter grouping because not having the second hand to help stabilize the gun pulling the trigger to bring the hammer back on the revolver it is unstable . Semi , second + shots the hammer is back already. Another reason , revolver I'm limited to the # of rounds before reloading so less reloading the gun and mags once loaded are easier to swap than opening the cylinder and ejecting the cases and reloading with the speed loaders . biggest + is I have no revolvers all semi auto with 4+ mags for each , I just don't like taking @ 3 min to load each mag .

still afloat | 09-09-2009 04:13 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . on a bench the clamp would help but i wont always have the bench or clamp to use . I believe the lula has a bench mounted version which would work prior to going to a range .etc but once there its the reloading i'd have most problems with .

gpond | 09-09-2009 05:22 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . For tactical situations you may want to consider the "New York Reload." That is when one gun runs dry you pull out the second gun. Frankly, this is my prefered method. When carrying small revolvers it is actually practical to have a second one. I'm serious, btw.

____hoot____ | 09-09-2009 05:23 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Go for your wood pin plan. That sounds like the best solution to me. On second thought perhaps metal would work better as the wood pin would be under pressure and might shave on the edges of the hole. An aluminum roofing nail, perhaps?

Bx3 | 09-09-2009 05:23 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . still afloat, your going to laugh. After reading your reply to me and better understanding that you have absolutely no use of one of your arms I tried a little experiment. I have been able to successfully load several caliber magazines (that I borrowed from a friend because I have sold all of my guns) with the use of only one hand using the Lula. Using one good hand, I can depress the loader and then using my mouth, I can pick up one round at a time and drop them into the mag. I know it sounds funny but I'll be damned that it worked and it worked quite well every time with minimal effort. I think that it is absolutely a viable option for you. Good luck. Oh yea, I never quit! Bx3:coolbeer:

C&L 1911 | 09-09-2009 05:27 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1912445) still afloat, your going to laugh. After reading your reply to me and better understanding that you have absolutely no use of one of your arms I tried a little experiment. I have been able to successfully load several caliber magazines (that I borrowed from a friend because I have sold all of my guns) with the use of only one hand using the Lula. Using one good hand, I can depress the loader and then using my mouth, I can pick up one round at a time and drop them into the mag. I know it sounds funny but I'll be damned that it worked and it worked quite well every time with minimal effort. I think that it is absolutely a viable option for you. Good luck. Oh yea, I never quit! Bx3:coolbeer:
Better stay away from lead bullets; can you say "lead poisoning"? :yes:

Real Money Now | 09-09-2009 05:50 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1911953) There is.http://www.maglula.com/ I have these for both rifle and pistol mags and they work great! BTW, I would recommend downloading by 1 round anyways. It aids in the cycling action and can help prevent some malfunctions.Bx3:coolbeer:
An excellent tool, even if it is Made in Israel. :ok::ok:

Bx3 | 09-09-2009 06:01 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Quote:
Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1912450) Better stay away from lead bullets; can you say "lead poisoning"? :yes:
The only lead bullets I (used to) shoot are the Double Tap WFNGC Bear Tooth which are hardcast. It's not like I'm chewin on em.:biggrin: Real money, love em or hate em, you have to admit, they are crafty devils.

Matt-themaddog-Dollar | 09-09-2009 06:16 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . It's always easiest to load magazines with the mag resting on a hard surface like a table -- regardless of what loading tool you use.

still afloat | 09-09-2009 06:33 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . BX3 , I use my mouth and teeth for lots of things , I can set a diamond with my teeth *L* seriously . how much if any pressure is require to put each round in using the lula ? does it require a push or would the weight of the bullet be enough ? You've given me an ideal if just the weight would be enough . with the loader depressed , can you just drop the round in the slot , release loader , depress loader and repeat till mag is full ?

Bx3 | 09-09-2009 06:56 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . If you look at the picture earlier in this thread you will notice that there is a tongue coming off of the front of the loader. This is what depresses the bullet into the magazine and it is spring loaded to the front (hard to describe but simple to operate). The resistance will be determined by your magazine spring but the loader does give you some added leverage. From there the next bullet will literally fall into the magazine and then you release the squeezing motion allowing the tongue to reposition back on top of the new round which will set you up to drop in the next round and so on......

still afloat | 09-09-2009 10:04 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Ok , what I am thinking is possibly a tube that would hold the # of rounds the mag would hold , capped at one end .That end held in my mouth , then tilted to the mag with the loader .Right hand to squeeze the loader and release it , gravity dropping each round into the mag after the loader is depressed . Does that sound possible or would it take more action than just the gravity to get each round into the loader ? Possibly a small lip on the tube to keep it lined up and in place . Thanks for taking the time to try things for me.

Bx3 | 09-10-2009 01:22 AM
Re: There has to be an easier way . The tube would be possible I guess but you can still only load one bullet at a time. The process requires the loader to be squeezed then depressed, one round is dropped into the mag (gravity will do), then the loader is unsqueezed (this re sets the tongue) re-squeezed, depressed and another round dropped into mag, rinse and repeat until mag is fully loaded. In other words you can not just dump all the rounds into the mag at once. I loaded a full mag (minus 1 rd) in about twice the time using my mouth (go ahead and laugh here knuckle heads:biggrin:) as would normally take with not much more effort. I think this will be leaps and bounds over what you have been having to deal with. Bx3

still afloat | 09-10-2009 08:22 AM
Re: There has to be an easier way . Thanks , thats what I wanted to know , not worried about the 1 bullet at a time thats fine my problem is where it gets to the last 2, 3 , 4 or so on a mag the spring is too tight to be able to get those last few in with me holding the mag in my right hand , 4 fingers pressing it against the palm of my hand and the thumb tryin' to push the round bullet down against another round bullet to depress the spring and then slide it back to get it in the mag . With the device you borrowed , that will depress the spring and leave a opening for the last few rounds to slide in one at a time by gravity if we are on the same page . Sound about right ? Thanks

Bx3 | 09-10-2009 01:15 PM
Re: There has to be an easier way . yup. Its a one handed, two lipped operation from the first round to the last. If you end up going this rout, let me know how it works out for you. I always do what I can to try to help out a fellow 2A supporter. Bx3

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