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southfork | 05-22-2009 10:59 PM
Glock 19c problem 9mm Glock 19c, empties not ejecting, any thoughts?

Bx3 | 05-22-2009 11:10 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem Could be the ammo, could be the mags, could be the ejector needs some oil. Need more specifics to your problem.

Mill Man | 05-22-2009 11:30 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem I had a batch of S&B 9mm that I got a ridiculous number of failures to eject in. Maybe 30+ over 500 rnds. Had to pound a few out with a dowel. Some more info like Bx3 said, would be helpful.

SilverCity | 05-22-2009 11:58 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem Quote:
Originally Posted by southfork (Post 1734608) 9mm Glock 19c, empties not ejecting, any thoughts?
What specific fail-to-eject problem? Stovepiping? Empty case stacking with the new round? What ammo are you using? Perhaps limp wristing, which is often the cause of jamming problems. Factory recoil spring or aftermarket? We need more info...

mick silver | 05-23-2009 12:03 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem I have never heard that term used before what does it mean ....Perhaps limp wristing?

Goldhedge | 05-23-2009 12:04 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Is the original spring plastic, or has it been replaced with a steel one?

SilverCity | 05-23-2009 12:09 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Quote:
Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1734683) I have never heard that term used before what does it mean ....Perhaps limp wristing?
Holding the pistol too loosely can cause a malfunction known as a "limp-wrist" jam.

electric-amish | 05-23-2009 01:35 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Are you sure its a real Glock?:tongue_ma: Just Kidding. Look at Ammo. Make sure ejector is grabbing shells. If it will not go forward enough it should not shoot. But fireing can occur sometimes if things are askew. 1 Change Ammo 2Look at ejector for freedom of movement E-A

GoldWampum | 05-23-2009 02:07 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem It's a Glock. Get an XD, they run on anything.:biggrin:

Shasta Gold | 05-23-2009 03:42 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Quote:
Originally Posted by southfork (Post 1734608) 9mm Glock 19c, empties not ejecting, any thoughts?
Ammunition. What are you using?

SWRichmond | 05-23-2009 09:20 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Just in case anyone needed another reason not to own a glock.

hypervel | 05-23-2009 09:23 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Ummmm. I think I would look into removing and detail cleaning the extractor. These are simple creatures.

southfork | 05-23-2009 09:49 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Using Winchester ammo, it is ported, bought used at gun show recently, I just got some new mags in mail, will try them first, thanks.

SilverCity | 05-23-2009 10:34 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Quote:
Originally Posted by southfork (Post 1735026) Using Winchester ammo, it is ported, bought used at gun show recently, I just got some new mags in mail, will try them first, thanks.
Clean and lube it well, try some +P ammo, make sure to hold firmly. Let me know if that doesn't work.

TomD | 05-23-2009 10:54 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by southfork (Post 1735026) Using Winchester ammo, it is ported, bought used at gun show recently, I just got some new mags in mail, will try them first, thanks.
Winchester doesn't say much, target loads probably. I'll bet it is a combo of 3 things: a relatively weak load, the porting exacerbates that, and a weak hold. But you still haven't told us of the nature of the failure, if it's stovepiping I'm very probably right, insufficient energy to cycle back far enough to hit the ejector. In the picture below the arrow points to the ejector. The slide, returning to the rear after firing, is bringing the empty casing with it. The ejector tip will hit the empty (or more properly the empty will hit the ejector tip, flinging the empty out. If there is insufficient recoil energy for the slide to even make it back as far as the ejector, the slide will return with the empty still in place, usually with the empty ending up crumpled between the slide and breech face (a stovepipe). Usually the slide doesn't make it back far enough to pick another round up from the clip.

southfork | 05-23-2009 11:16 AM
Re: Glock 19c problem Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1735071) Winchester doesn't say much, target loads probably. I'll bet it is a combo of 3 things: a relatively weak load, the porting exacerbates that, and a weak hold. But you still haven't told us of the nature of the failure, if it's stovepiping I'm very probably right, insufficient energy to cycle back far enough to hit the ejector. In the picture below the arrow points to the ejector. The slide, returning to the rear after firing, is bringing the empty casing with it. The ejector tip will hit the empty (or more properly the empty will hit the ejector tip, flinging the empty out. If there is insufficient recoil energy for the slide to even make it back as far as the ejector, the slide will return with the empty still in place, usually with the empty ending up crumpled between the slide and breech face (a stovepipe).
Not quite sure on the specifics on the ejection, I dont think the new round was coming up just the old one not ejecting fully, will try today thanks.

SWRichmond | 05-23-2009 12:51 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem Are you confusing "extraction" with "ejection"? They are two completely different things, done by different parts. Limp-wristing is often a very valid diagnosis, as the video above illustrated. Weak or broken extractor. Broken ejector. Some handguns can break the extractor if the slide is slammed shut with a round in the chamber. Most people don't know this. Often/usually handgun extractors are designed to have the case rim slide up into the extractor hook from beneath as the round comes up from the magazine, and if you slam the slide shut with a round in the chamber the extractor is forced to try to cam over the case rim. Do this a couple of times and the extractor can break.

electric-amish | 05-23-2009 12:54 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem Quote:
Originally Posted by southfork (Post 1735026) Using Winchester ammo, it is ported, bought used at gun show recently, I just got some new mags in mail, will try them first, thanks.
It is Ported-----Hmmmmmmmm Use hotter ammo. If its ported there may not be enough pressure building up to cycle because the Porting is bleeding it off. I am pulling that out of my behind. Just because I can. HAHAHAHAHA E-A

southfork | 05-24-2009 06:29 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem Turns out it was the old ammo I was using from the 70s, I also was shooting my ruger 89 and it had the same problem, switched to the remington umc and it was fine, thanks to all.

SilverCity | 05-24-2009 06:48 PM
Re: Glock 19c problem Congrats. Glad to see you have identified the problem... For future reference, keep your ammo in GI cans and stored in a cool, dry place. SC

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