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Silver001 | 10-28-2008 11:04 PM
gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns From general discussion Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1383458) The riflemaker only makes bolt-action rifles... An Obama-spearheaded crusade against semi-automatics would surely boost business for the only legal alternative: bolt-action rifle manufacturers. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ez-money_N.htm "WASHINGTON � Dan Cooper, a proud member of the National Rifle Association, has backed Republicans for most of his life. He's the chief executive of Cooper Arms, a small Montana company that makes hunting rifles. Cooper said he voted for George W. Bush in 2000, having voted in past elections for every Republican presidential nominee back to Richard Nixon. In October 1992, he presented a specially made rifle to the first President. Bush during a Billings campaign event. This year, Cooper has given $3,300 to the campaign of Democrat Barack Obama. That's on top of the $1,000 check he wrote to Obama's U.S. Senate campaign in 2004, after he was dazzled by Obama's speech at that year's Democratic National Convention."

Lt Dan | 10-29-2008 12:19 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

bwelkk | 10-29-2008 02:56 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns What an asshole. Nobody stands up for anyone else's rights and that's why The Government has successfully played both sides against the middle for the past hundred years.

meatman | 10-29-2008 07:12 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns What a piece of Shit I am not really in to boycotting companies but I hope this gets out

Twisted Avatar | 10-29-2008 07:18 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Traitor........ He will be remember for this treachery. T

farscott | 10-29-2008 07:39 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns I do not believe that Dan Cooper is hoping to raise his revenues and profits by getting semi-automatic rifles banned. Cooper Arms rifles are not really competing for sales with AR-15s, AKs, and other semi-autos unless you consider Rolex to be competing for sales with Timex or Remington 870s to be competing against H&H doubles. Cooper Arms rifles are beautiful hunting tools, with gorgeous XXX claro walnut stocks, fine bluing, and amazing workmanship. These are the kind of rifles one takes on expensive safaris and not the kind of rifles one takes into the field for some rough and tumble use. I may not agree with Mr. Cooper's endorsement, but I do not believe he gave it to proffer a business advantage.

Twisted Avatar | 10-29-2008 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by farscott (Post 1384791) I may not agree with Mr. Cooper's endorsement, but I do not believe he gave it to proffer a business advantage.
Of course it wont give his bussines a advatange .........if they were to outlaw semi autos DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE??? The rational they give for semis is the same they will give for bolt action.........he is just retarded enough to believe he will be given special privilages T

meatman | 10-29-2008 07:50 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns now this was on the company's web site Regarding the USA Today Article. Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc. did not contribute and does not support in any fashion the campaign of Senator Obama. Nine months ago Dan Cooper (personally) made an online donation to the campaign in an effort to help defeat Hillary Clinton and in protest of American plant closures and the shipping of jobs overseas. Three months ago he made yet another donation to the McCain campaign and the RNC totaling over twice that given to Obama campaign. There is no doubt that the article in USA Today has caused a considerable response. To this end we are encouraged and stand with our fellow NRA members and supporters of the Second Amendment and against those who oppose it. http://www.cooperfirearms.com/ .

Twisted Avatar | 10-29-2008 07:55 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Back peddeling I see........ He cant even stand by his actions when they are held up to the light of public scurtiny. Sucker. T

stacks | 10-29-2008 09:00 AM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns info@cooperfirearms.com Phone: 406-777-0373, Fax: 406-777-5228

meatman | 10-29-2008 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1384813) Back peddeling I see........ He cant even stand by his actions when they are held up to the light of public scurtiny. Sucker. T
I think he realized what this is going to do to his business do they still hang people in montana

igorthesmall | 10-29-2008 02:11 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Turns out he gave money to Obama back in 2004 as well. Doesnt look good for ol Dan Cooper.

Twisted Avatar | 10-29-2008 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1384948) I think he realized what this is going to do to his business do they still hang people in montana
Lets hope small town justice can prevail. T

mick silver | 10-29-2008 02:28 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns just don;t buy his guns maybe he well go out of business

Worldmariner | 10-29-2008 03:22 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver001 (Post 1384392) From general discussion
OKAY... Well, sounds like it is time to call for a BOYCOTT of COOPER ARMS in EVERY firearms forum we can find, and list the reason why! Pretty straight forward! LET'S GET TO IT!!! I will do the one H&K and Walther Forums.

Worldmariner | 10-29-2008 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1384770) What a piece of Shit I am not really in to boycotting companies but I hope this gets out
Well, rather than sitting there wringing your hands hoping "this gets out", HELP IT GET OUT!!! Get on some forums and start posting! Send letters to the various gun magazines! Tell all your gun friends. ACT!

meatman | 10-29-2008 03:53 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns put it on 5 different gun forums and one of the largest forums on the net have 90,000 members and always 3000 on at one time. http://www.advrider.com here is where i posted it http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Twisted Avatar | 10-29-2008 03:55 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns I hope that spreads like wildfire........ Great going MM T

Shoden | 10-29-2008 07:41 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Latest update on http://www.cooperfirearms.com/ is this: "The employees,shareholders and board of directors of Cooper Firearms of Montana do not share the personal political views of Dan Cooper. Although we all believe everyone has a right to vote and donate as they see fit, it has become apparent that the fallout may affect more than just Mr. Cooper. It may also affect the employees and the shareholders of Cooper Firearms. The board of directors has asked Mr. Cooper to resign as President of Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc." Ouch! I kind of feel bad for the guy losing a company he built from the ground up, but he made a bad choice in backing Obama and he's paying for it. He should have known how his customers would feel when this information got out.

Iptuous | 10-29-2008 07:45 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns wow.... that's fvcked up, man. he says something politically unpopular, and the board yoinks the company out from under him! that's harsher than what happened to Zumbo!

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 10-29-2008 08:39 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns No, it's not harsh. It's humane. Harsh would be if they are tarred him, feathered him, and then set him on fire and made his family members watch while he burned. Sometimes I think some folks 'round cheer have forgotten just how serious a crime treason really is, and how our ancestors dealt with it when they encountered it. Show treason no tolerance, ever, and its frequency will be greatly diminished. Think about it. 7

igorthesmall | 10-29-2008 08:53 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns He owns the company. They probably are having him resign as President and will be hiring him as a consultant tomorrow morning. Not to mention he probably owns 100% of the stock in the company and will be collecting all the profits anyways.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 10-29-2008 09:43 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1386199) No, it's not harsh. It's humane. Harsh would be if they are tarred him, feathered him, and then set him on fire and made his family members watch while he burned. Sometimes I think some folks 'round cheer have forgotten just how serious a crime treason really is, and how our ancestors dealt with it when they encountered it. Show treason no tolerance, ever, and its frequency will be greatly diminished. Think about it. 7
Supporting those who wish to usurp our constitution means death. And I don't mean in a philosophical sense. The constitution is a contract, and if we don't follow that, then nothing binds me to the government or to be civil towards my neighbor. WE NEED THE CONSTITUTION! Otherwise you'd have 1,000,000 people just like me going buck-****ing-wild......and you don't want that. You want me following the law. Support the constitution.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 10-29-2008 09:45 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden (Post 1386106) Latest update on http://www.cooperfirearms.com/ is this: "The employees,shareholders and board of directors of Cooper Firearms of Montana do not share the personal political views of Dan Cooper. Although we all believe everyone has a right to vote and donate as they see fit, it has become apparent that the fallout may affect more than just Mr. Cooper. It may also affect the employees and the shareholders of Cooper Firearms. The board of directors has asked Mr. Cooper to resign as President of Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc." Ouch! I kind of feel bad for the guy losing a company he built from the ground up, but he made a bad choice in backing Obama and he's paying for it. He should have known how his customers would feel when this information got out.
Wow he really got ****ed there. But this kind of proves the point, doesn't it? If he really just liked Obama, then this wouldn't be an issue. Everybody is entitled to support whatever candidate they like. I think any true patriot understands that This is a clear sign that the board knew they were trying to boost sales in the future, through this "plan"... and failed, obviously. he's the scapegoat

momopanda | 10-29-2008 10:31 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns By and large folk'll support the candidate that'll benefit them personally. Gun maker backs Obama.Newspaper endorses McCain. Is it a joke or something? Why the Sam Hill would anyone care who a manufacturer or newspaper "endorsed"? Are people really that incapable of independent thought? That they need producers/media/celebrities to tell them who to vote for? I mean, are there really people out there who march out and vote for one of these pricks because some entity suggested it? Never mind , I know the answer already. I don't care whether this guy did or did not endorse Obama and neither should you. That being said, there's 3 rules to consider when you hear a corporation (or goobermint bureau/or celebrity or whatever ) speak: 1) It's about the money 2) It's all about the money 3) It's always all about the money. Please repeat this as often as necessary until you understand it.

roasted | 10-29-2008 11:23 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Firing the dude doesn't do much for me. I don't want the name "Cooper" on the rifle. Obamination.

Tn...Andy | 10-30-2008 07:45 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1386227) He owns the company. They probably are having him resign as President and will be hiring him as a consultant tomorrow morning. Not to mention he probably owns 100% of the stock in the company and will be collecting all the profits anyways.
Actually, he DOES NOT own the company, nor 100% of the stock. That's the problem with going public.....you give up some of the ownership. In this case, he must have give up more than 51% ( or may never had it in the first place, since he started the business in 1990 with 2 other partners ), and he can be forced out of the CEO job by the board of directors.....which is what happened. He will keep his stock, but I suspect he has damaged the company name somewhat, and may well have devalued that. Another "Jim Zumbo" in action....and feeling the wrath of the very people he tries to market to....well deserved wrath. I'm with Hiveman......tar and feathers would have been more appropriate.

Camp Bassfish | 10-30-2008 08:01 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns DB Cooper would be/is ashamed to share his initials.

Lackluster | 10-30-2008 08:16 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns Well, I never heard of Cooper rifles before this thread. Like they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

cugir321 | 10-30-2008 08:37 PM
Re: gun maker backs Obama - single shot guns I work for a gun manufacturer. I can only imagine he has never read the writings of the founding fathers. It amazes me how many people in the gun business don't understand what the second amendment is about.....it is about guns that keep tyranny in check. That includes, single shots, shotguns, machine guns, semi-autos. If it balances the scale against a tyrant it is covered by the second amendment. It amazes me how many people (in the gun world) don't know Obama's voting record. He has never supported a pro-gun vote. Those that give up a little freedom for security deserve neither security or freedom. Big Ben. Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens balances the scale. Criminals are baby tyrants. Out of control politicans are grown tyrants. Search google under, "quotes by the founding fathers on guns". Even a child can understand their intention. If a person doesn't support semi-auto weapons, he doesn't support the second amendment. Or he is to lazy to read.

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