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smullen | 03-01-2009 09:09 PM
Sad Trip to the Gun Store My father and I went to one of the better local shops, a place called Gateway Outfiffers, in St Charles, Mo to pick him up a few boxes of .20 Ga shells for Turkey Huntings... I wanted to see what the going rate was on AKs (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) ARs (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) Glocks only 1 or two Mossbergs (none that I was interested in) .223/5.56 ammo (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) 7.62x39 ammo (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) 9mm ammo (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) .45 ammo (verry little, 35.00 for a box of 50) AR Mags (15 in stock Black steel no name w Green followers, 20.00 ea) Glock 21 Mags (1 in stock 24.00) AK MAgs (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) Ruger 10/22 mags (none in stock, no idea when they would get any) The place looked deserted... When we walked in, I was'nt sure if they were changing out the fall/winter stuff for Spring Summer or going out of Business... When I talked to the old guys behnd the counter, they were very polite and as helpful as they could be... They sadly said, what are you looking for that I'm out of.... As we talked for about about the state of things, he said they had orders in for over 9K worth of ammo, but had no idea when if any would come in... Said he thought they would get about 2K worth in 2-3 weeks.... Everyone on of their suppliers is back ordered on everything they want.... Pretty much all they had in was ammo wise was Black Powder stuff, select shotgun shells, and the harder to find less common hunting rifle rounds... Firearms wise, they had a lot of Bolt action and hunting style shot guns... It really is starting to get freaky out there...

EE_ | 03-01-2009 09:25 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Cabela's is stocked. For how long who knows? Anyone use the Fiocchi ammo? http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...233&hasJS=true

Igotyour6 | 03-01-2009 09:26 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store I do not mind a bolt action shot gun, or a bolt action rifle. just me though. sure a pump or automatic can put more lead in the air faster, but for hunting I actually prefer a single shot.

FireMattMillen | 03-01-2009 09:35 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store I'm not so sure this phenomenon is "sad" - I think it's a positive trend.

smullen | 03-01-2009 09:38 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store I'm glad to see others are waking up and arming themselfs, but Its sad to me when I can not buy cases of ammo like I used to and Boxes of magazines... If I have money, they don't have them in stock, if they have them, the price shoots up, way past affordable...

Snake Plissken | 03-01-2009 09:41 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Those who hustle up the merchandise have the merchandise to sell. Those too lazy to hustle up the merchandise don't have any.

electric-amish | 03-01-2009 09:59 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by smullen (Post 1601746) I'm glad to see others are waking up and arming themselfs, but Its sad to me when I can not buy cases of ammo like I used to and Boxes of magazines... If I have money, they don't have them in stock, if they have them, the price shoots up, way past affordable...
Hey Smullen Get over to Graffs in ST. Charles on 5th street N of 70. I get reloading materials and Ammo there. Keep it relitively under your hat. E-A

mick silver | 03-01-2009 10:00 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store went to the gun shop today an it was packed , an the range was also full an it outside an it was 35 today here ,,,,,,,, talk to the guy who own the place an he said the first time buyer are out in full force now, not much ammo to be had , he still has a lot of guns

sindgefallen | 03-01-2009 10:06 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store After following the Walmart ammo thread for a little while I decided to check out Wally world for some ammo and found the shelves nearly bare. I made today my ammo buying day and set out for 9mm and .223. I already have a large stock but I have been focusing on buying gold and food since the fall drop. After 3 hrs of driving and searching I was coming up short of anything. I found a mom and pop shop that I had been to before that was way off in the middle of nowhere and was successful in procuring some .223 and a little 9mm. The guy said that this was more than likely all he will have for the rest of the year since his suppliers cannot give him a date of delivery. Said that his cheap target loads are looking to be over $20 per box when he does get them. He tried to get some from the last gun show we had but he waited in line to get in for an hour and still could not get anything. Said that many people had hand carts filled with cases of .223/5.56 7.62x39 and 9mm .40 and .45. I was glad to get the 250 rounds he had left of .223 I really didn't think things would get this bad THIS QUICK. I am sure glad I stocked up over the past few years. The prices are really getting to be too much.

Rebel Yarr | 03-01-2009 10:18 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store There is still plenty to buy out here - gun wise and some slim ammo finds - but overall crazy prices. I can get an AK - AR - whatever almost - the prices are not attractive....sinking almost 1.5k for a saiga 12 + tactical stuff and mags/ammo myself right now. Had I done it 6 months ago it would have been under 1k.

mick silver | 03-01-2009 10:22 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store i have seen saiga 12 around here going for 549.00 to 649.00 one dealer i know has 50 the other day , i may go by tomorrow an see what he still got

Rebel Yarr | 03-01-2009 10:37 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Yes, had I ordered it, I could have saved 100 bucks - but once you pick up (2) 10 round mags - a tactical stock and a tactical foregrip and umm...hundred rounds of bird shot + 100 rounds of slug+00 - things get ugly!! haha I don't regret it but wish I had watched for the new saiga shipments closer than I was apparently. If anyone can buy one under 700 bucks- I would get it. It will most likely be one of the best investments you can make right now. I will most likely pick up another myself.

TTAZZMAN | 03-01-2009 11:48 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1601723) Cabela's is stocked. For how long who knows? Anyone use the Fiocchi ammo? http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...233&hasJS=true
I was in the Cabelas in St Charles a couple of weeks ago they had all the ammo you could want...and some ARs as to the Fiocchi Ammo....most of it is made in missouri so its local.....and it is some of the finest ammo i have ever shot for non match, non specialty hunting ammo....clean....no missfires...reasonably priced...very accurate Fiocchi.....is my prefered shotgun...9mm...and 223 ammo...

gangsta99 | 03-02-2009 12:08 AM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel Yarr (Post 1601851) Yes, had I ordered it, I could have saved 100 bucks - but once you pick up (2) 10 round mags - a tactical stock and a tactical foregrip and umm...hundred rounds of bird shot + 100 rounds of slug+00 - things get ugly!! haha I don't regret it but wish I had watched for the new saiga shipments closer than I was apparently. If anyone can buy one under 700 bucks- I would get it. It will most likely be one of the best investments you can make right now. I will most likely pick up another myself.
Rebel just think how much more you can spend on drums for that. :bear_w00t: Really though the Saiga 12 is just a beast. After modding mine it is my favorite gun to shoot. Now I just need to get me a brake of some sort for it. Been putting this off for too long. I might put one of these on the end of it. http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m...y/MVC-192F.jpg

Rebel Yarr | 03-02-2009 12:30 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Well, the Chaos brake looks good - it seems to be the only nasty looking brake available right now. That was the only piece I held off on for now. EDit - if you get one - and put it on - let me know how it fits woudl ya? I'm curious if the nut is a must or if it able to line up properly without one.

smullen | 03-02-2009 01:03 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by electric-amish (Post 1601781) Hey Smullen Get over to Graffs in ST. Charles on 5th street N of 70. I get reloading materials and Ammo there. Keep it relitively under your hat. E-A
Yea, funny that you mention that.... The guy at Gateway Outfitters told me I might go check them out... He said, he hated to send me away, but If I they did not have what I wanted, he wanted to help me get it... Which I thought was a pretty decent attitude for him to have.... I'll check them out... I would have Sunday, but it was already like 4:45 or so... I figured they would be trying to lock up.... Thanks E.A.

smullen | 03-02-2009 01:04 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 1601954) I was in the Cabelas in St Charles a couple of weeks ago they had all the ammo you could want...and some ARs as to the Fiocchi Ammo....most of it is made in missouri so its local.....and it is some of the finest ammo i have ever shot for non match, non specialty hunting ammo....clean....no missfires...reasonably priced...very accurate Fiocchi.....is my prefered shotgun...9mm...and 223 ammo...
I thought Fiocchi was supposed to be Itilian made??? Cool to see something else is made here in Mo, if it really is...

Ringhunter | 03-02-2009 01:40 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1601723) Cabela's is stocked. For how long who knows? Anyone use the Fiocchi ammo? http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...233&hasJS=true
I've used them in 7.63 Mauser with no problems

TTAZZMAN | 03-03-2009 12:18 AM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by smullen (Post 1602783) I thought Fiocchi was supposed to be Itilian made??? Cool to see something else is made here in Mo, if it really is...
Some Fiocchi IS italian made.....but they have a large plant in Ozark Missouri just south of springfield missouri.... The only Italian made Fiocchi i have seen around here was in the AK and SKS rounds I dont know what calibres come from Italy ...but i shoot a LOT of 12ga..9mm...223...308...and i know it comes from Missouri.....all the skeet ranges in southwest missouri FEATURE Fiocchi ..... I shoot the most 9mm and it is much cleaner than CCI,Wolf,Winchester,Remmington, Federal..... on 223 i put it just slightly below Black Hills ammo in accuracy.....we usually can buy it around here in bulk....in the .35-.60 per round price range as a example I would be quite suprized if they dont start dominating the midrange ammo market in the midwest...and fill the Notch above the "wolf level" and below the Match grade ammo's Fiocchi USA website...corp headquarters in missouri....http://www.fiocchiusa.com/Contacts.html

EE_ | 03-03-2009 12:39 AM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store http://www.fiocchiusa.com/cat_rifle.html The majority of Rifle cartridges are being developed and loaded in our facility in Ozark, MO. We are utilizing state of the art machinery that has been developed in Italy for this new challenging task. The cases are produced in Europe with exacting tolerances. These quality raw materials are produced with the same die designs used for military contracts. Fiocchi of America has constructed a new state of the art firing range with capabilities up to 300 yards to test this new line of rifle cartridges.

ImaCannin | 03-03-2009 01:17 AM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store One of our local stores has stacks of 1000 round boxes of 223's. We went in the other day and they just got a load of powder in too! I go in expecting to buy 100.00 worth of stuff and ended up using my FRN that were to buy Silver on lead!

90%RealMoney | 03-03-2009 01:41 AM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Plissken (Post 1601749) Those who hustle up the merchandise have the merchandise to sell. Those too lazy to hustle up the merchandise don't have any.
SNAKE PLISSKIN? I thought you were dead! LOL! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Caught "The Thing" on Chiller channel over the weekend. What a great flick, especially for Kurt Russell fans. I gotta get one of those hats like he wore in that movie!

koyaanisqatsi | 03-03-2009 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 1601954) I was in the Cabelas in St Charles a couple of weeks ago they had all the ammo you could want...and some ARs as to the Fiocchi Ammo....most of it is made in missouri so its local.....and it is some of the finest ammo i have ever shot for non match, non specialty hunting ammo....clean....no missfires...reasonably priced...very accurate Fiocchi.....is my prefered shotgun...9mm...and 223 ammo...
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Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1601984) Check out the reviews there and at other ammo distributors. I'd be very leery.
To all in general ... Last time I was in a gun shop was Friday 4 days ago to pick up a Beretta Bobcat. While waiting for a bill, I told the owner and I had a CZ 83 9mm Makarov as a fav for my CC ... he said, bet it's accurate, then asked, you got ammo? ... I said yeah, maybe 1300-1500 rounds ... I saw a couple of nods ... Somebody in the store overheard our chat and interjected to the the owner, you got any 380? He answered the waiting customer, in about 3 weeks... Yet I only saw ONE shooter in the range at 3pm on a Friday... maybe 8 people in the small shop with me... its as if everybody wants and stores ammo but they've stopped shooting. I asked if he thought us CC holders would be first to lose our guns ... he said no, probably be others first, don't worry anytime too soon about your CC... end of conversation. Regarding Fiocchi Ammo.... Below Images: The first image is a comparison of .38 Special loads for a visual of what I'm about to say. On my limited experience the Fiochi cartridge brass and copper jackets seems to be very prone to passive air tarnishing. I stock my FRESH .38 Special stash in a few steel surplus ammo boxes -- all together and same conditions in factory packaging. None looked tarnished when they arrived from either Sportsman's Guide, CheaperThanDirt or Midway. See how distinctly corroded looking (tarnished) the Fiocchi brass looks when compared below: Buffalo Bore 158gr +p gas check soft lead hollow point Remington 158gr +p lead hollow point (nickel case) Speer Gold Dot 135gr +p HP (nickel case) Remington UMC 130gr FMJ Fiocchi USA 158gr FMJ Remington UMC 125gr +p HP I can also easily scan .38s from MagTech and American Eagle, but they look just as BRIGHT fresh as the Remington brass and copper shown above. Believe me, the Fiocchi .38 Special, item #38G looks about like Remington Peters pistol ammo my Dad had bought 30-40 years ago and just aged into patina naturally. I can show you 49 more cartridges, better and tighter scans if you wish. Maybe they had a bad lot of alloy, both of copper jacket and brass case ... I can only wonder. (it is not magnetic) Buffalo bore still looks like it just had a dremmel buff it a minute ago... mirror bright, but it was kept exactly the same, with the same approx age of delivey. The second image is of .410 3" shells. Note a slight brass discoloration on the Fiocchi shell bases already after owning them 4 months. Note the choice of brown color rather than red ... makes it easy to litter, harder to pick up spent shells. Note the crimp on the Fiocchi, very very deep, I wonder why, then I see they have 1/16 oz less lead (22 pellets of # 7 1/2 shot) Yet never in my life have I seen a factory made Super-X of any gauge pop open by accident, many seem to be glued or heat sealed in some way. And Fiocchi claims to be 40fps faster, but who can prove it? I've not had that much experience SHOOTING Fiocchi, I'm primarily a hoarder, since I've shot enough in my life not to feel a great need to practice some more. The performance of the Fiocchi shells may be fantastic ... but so is my experinces shooting lots of cartridge brands I've always liked a lot. Just sharing what I know on ammo as of today, thanks!

Caligula | 03-03-2009 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Snake Plissken (Post 1601749) Those who hustle up the merchandise have the merchandise to sell. Those too lazy to hustle up the merchandise don't have any.
I agree, those idiots at OP's shop might as well just lock the doors and go home.

AuH2O64 | 03-03-2009 10:22 AM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1601723) Cabela's is stocked. For how long who knows? Anyone use the Fiocchi ammo? http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...233&hasJS=true
I've used Fiocchi ammo, in both .380 auto and .45 ACP. Buyt it by the case, and very happy with it. Great stuff, and affordable.

Twisted Avatar | 03-03-2009 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by koyaanisqatsi (Post 1604240) Yet I only saw ONE shooter in the range at 3pm on a Friday... maybe 8 people in the small shop with me... its as if everybody wants and stores ammo but they've stopped shooting.
There it is........ I play with snap caps and dry fire every few days ........but go to the range???? With a 500% exsise tax looming??? :4_1_72::cry1: Bullets are just like Silver and Gold now. MY PRESCIOUS

TTAZZMAN | 03-03-2009 12:23 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store I do high volume shooting in 9mm The difference in cleanup after a 500rnd session between Fiocchi and winchester or remmington is Drastic and Startling the Fiocchi is Drasticly Cleaner for what its worth if your shooting 20 rnds i doubt if it makes a difference...but if your shooting 500 or 1000 rnds, action fouling and cleanup can be a significant issue just wanted to add this for any who shoot these kind of volumes they might want to test Fiocchi as a alternative

1BlindEye | 03-03-2009 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yarr (Post 1602711) Well, the Chaos brake looks good - it seems to be the only nasty looking brake available right now. That was the only piece I held off on for now. EDit - if you get one - and put it on - let me know how it fits woudl ya? I'm curious if the nut is a must or if it able to line up properly without one.
Looks like it would work without the nut.:coolbeer:

Rebel Yarr | 03-03-2009 05:06 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store gawd , I hope you didn't buy that porcuipine thingy. looks like the nut might actually help to "center" the brake a lil better on yers. Nice gun though - thanks for sharing.

meatman | 03-03-2009 05:40 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store I did not have a hard time finding what I needed week ago I had none of this http://meatman.smugmug.com/photos/484649913_cyVwy-L.jpg

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gbgunner | 03-03-2009 05:41 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store What are those? Kebab skewers for SHTF?

1BlindEye | 03-03-2009 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yarr (Post 1605392) gawd , I hope you didn't buy that porcuipine thingy. looks like the nut might actually help to "center" the brake a lil better on yers. Nice gun though - thanks for sharing.
Things dead center.. light/shadow effect:ok:

gangsta99 | 03-03-2009 06:58 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Now I will have to buy that chaos break. Damn you. :bear_tongue: That other thingy though looks pretty tarded.

1BlindEye | 03-03-2009 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1605621) Now I will have to buy that chaos break. Damn you. :bear_tongue: That other thingy though looks pretty tarded.
:rofl::RockOn: Yeah, In an evil kinda way...

CrufflerJJ | 03-03-2009 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gbgunner (Post 1605480) What are those? Kebab skewers for SHTF?
Nope, it's the underwater spearfishing gas injection needle thingy device unit.

electric-amish | 03-03-2009 08:16 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What is this http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1236103167 http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1236103167 Thats the funniest looking accesory I've seen. Whats it do? E-A

Twisted Avatar | 03-03-2009 08:20 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store 1 Attachment(s) Forget Shark break....... That must be a "African Buffalo Break" Dam

7th trump | 03-03-2009 08:25 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Marshmallow skewers. I like mine burnt....thank you very much!

7th trump | 03-03-2009 08:26 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Or maybe chop sticks on the go?

leadfoot | 03-03-2009 08:31 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store Quote:
Originally Posted by 1BlindEye (Post 1604949) http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...0&d=1236103167
Now that WILL make Feinstein, Pelosi and company pee in their panties.

poor boy | 03-03-2009 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by electric-amish (Post 1605747) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH What is this http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1236103167 http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1236103167 Thats the funniest looking accesory I've seen. Whats it do? E-A
You typed the words right out of my mouth EA.

reformed wastrel | 03-03-2009 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1604814) Bullets are just like Silver and Gold now.
Ammo is indeed precious...

1BlindEye | 03-04-2009 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by electric-amish (Post 1605747) Whats it do? E-A
I was gonna go for this....but opted for less weight http://www.geekologie.com/2008/12/01/bayonet-1.jpg Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1605754) Forget Shark break....... That must be a "African Buffalo Break" Dam
Close http://brucefong.files.wordpress.com...07/warthog.jpg It does nothing... cooking utensil that extends/retracts... It's what's for dinner

Twisted Avatar | 03-04-2009 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by reformed wastrel (Post 1605901) Ammo is indeed precious...
ROTFLMAO!!!! THAT IS GREAT!!!!!!

TUMS | 03-04-2009 10:01 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store As long as gunbroker.com is around I rest easy that I can get any particular gun i'm looking for. Even if my local shop can't order it.

mick silver | 03-04-2009 10:12 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store it alway a sad day when i go to the gun store , i want more guns an can only get one that day

GoldWampum | 03-04-2009 10:36 PM
Re: Sad Trip to the Gun Store The store I frequent is having no trouble keeping guns and ammo rotating through, but he's a go getter... always moving. Although some of the ammo he's gotten recently had to be from a supplier who charges a bit more than the others. Mostly because they don't give a shipping break for volume.

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