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Hivemindgammahydra7 | 07-11-2008 03:07 PM
T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Hello all, Based on the responses and written comments in this HivePoll: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=273705 I recently brought home a new T R W. T R W = Tyranny Response Weapon Paid more than I would have liked ($770 + state tax and DROS - ouch!), but oh well. I have some follow up questions 4 u, but I will post them below the photos...

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 07-11-2008 03:10 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Now, I bought this as NIB and I think that's how it is, but I wonder: maybe it came from factory test firing, or maybe from me when I worked the slide a couple of times, but should a NIB 870 have wear on the bolt and one of the slide rails like this?

graspAU | 07-11-2008 03:11 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Very, very nice. I have the nickel plated 870 Marine Magnum. Great weapons. Just stopped by the Walmart today to buy some american products: 200 22lr CCI Minimags 250 UMC/Remington .45ACP bulk pack 100 Winchester .45ACP bulk pack 550 22lr Federal Bulk Pack. Total $148. Not too bad considering prices online are more. Get some more ammo.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 07-11-2008 03:12 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Small nick in the finish at the edge of magazine extension. Nothing major by any means and hell, I know it's gonna' happen over time and with use, regardless, no big deal. Just wondered if a "NIB" would have small wear marks upon receipt, or if it should have had none...

graspAU | 07-11-2008 03:13 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) 1 Attachment(s) My 870 had some small marks on the magazine tube when new. Didn't pay attention to the slide when new.

Martian_Time_slip | 07-11-2008 03:31 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Return it.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 07-11-2008 03:35 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Quote:
Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1187597) I think you're nitpicking. If you train with it more than 5 minutes it will have more nicks and scratches....or character...or proof of competency. It's not a showpiece. Unless you bought it to resell after TSHTF? I think as long as it's in good working order you have made a great purchase. Let's see it after you've made a few of your own scuff marks!
Yeah, you're right. It's gonna' get banged up, I know. As I said, no big deal, just wanted to make sure that these things are 'normal' with a NIB piece, was all...

graspAU | 07-11-2008 03:50 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1187623) Yeah, you're right. It's gonna' get banged up, I know. As I said, no big deal, just wanted to make sure that these things are 'normal' with a NIB piece, was all...
It's a gorgeous gun, and you selected the best IMO. Sleep well! :s1:

GoldWampum | 07-11-2008 03:55 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Great gun Hive. Thanks for posting. Consider T R W a mimicked term. Tyranny Response Weapon. I like it! Compliments of the Hiveman.

Walter Mitty | 07-11-2008 04:22 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) How does the action feel when you slide the pump handle back?? Is it smooth or does it seem to stick or is it tight? Take the bolt out and look for burrs inside the receiver where the bolt slides back and stone them out. If there are no major burrs and it doesn't feel excessively tight when you work the action, lube!! it properly and just shoot it and break it in. It's a machine. (Oh by the way, nice shotgun)

JJ_ | 07-11-2008 04:31 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Looks sweet Hive- fits the bill perfectly! - not to mention makes me want to go shotty shopping *sigh* Every one should have one of those!

SilverCity | 07-11-2008 04:40 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) QUOTE: Now, I bought this as NIB and I think that's how it is, but I wonder: maybe it came from factory test firing, or maybe from me when I worked the slide a couple of times, but should a NIB 870 have wear on the bolt and one of the slide rails like this? QUOTE: Small nick in the finish at the edge of magazine extension. Nothing major by any means and hell, I know it's gonna' happen over time and with use, regardless, no big deal. Just wondered if a "NIB" would have small wear marks upon receipt, or if it should have had none... ************************************************** **************************************** Hive, Remington POLICE marked 870s are the best quality 870 they make... The light wear you refer to is probably the result of actual function testing and test firing by the manufacturer. I think this is from Remington: REMINGTON ARMS COMPANY, LE DIVISION Important differences between Remington 870 Police and 870 Express shotguns The 870 Express has been an important part of Remington’s offering to the sporting market. It was designed to meet a price point in the commercial market while still providing classic 870 functionality. All of Remington’s 870’s have interchangeable parts, even if they have cosmetic differences. It is also important to note that many manufacturers use the 870 Express platform for their Police / Combat models. Without exception, every manufacturer who utilizes our 870 platform serves to upgrade their system to a more efficient, street worthy platform. While the 870 Express is still an 870, the best pump shotgun on the market, there are some very important cosmetic and functional differences between it and the 870 Police. To our customers in Law Enforcement, Military, Corrections, and Security, whose lives depend upon the unfailing performance of Remington shotguns, the Police modifications are of paramount importance. Synopses of the variances are provided below. • 870 Police shotguns go thru a special 23 station check list – ranging from visual inspection, functional testing, test firing, and final inspection. • All Police shotguns are assembled in a “special build area” at the plant in Ilion, NY. This section is secured and serves only to build LE and Military shotguns, with the same factory personnel working at that assignment each shift. • All parts that enter the “special build area” are visually inspected by hand to ensure top quality and functionality. • Due to heavy recoil in buck and slug loads, all 870 Police guns have a longer magazine spring which ensures positive feed and function. • A heavier sear spring is used to generate a reliable, positive trigger pull between 5 and 8 lbs. • A heavier carrier dog spring is used to ensure when the carrier elevates the shell, it will be held there until the bolt can push it into the chamber. This ensures positive feeding when using heavier payload rounds. • Police shotguns do not have an ISS (Integrated Safety System) which is a locking mechanism on the safety of commercial shotguns. This type of locking mechanism can cause delay to an officer who needs the weapon but does not have the appropriate key. LE shotguns have the standard, proven, cross bolt safety. • The fore-end on the Express model is longer and not compatible with many police shotgun vehicle racks. • The Police shotguns utilize the heavy duty SPEEDFEED Stocks and Fore-ends. • The Express model will not allow for the addition of an extension tube without physical modification to the tube and barrel, which can nullify the warranty. • The Express model has a BEAD BLAST BLUE finish while the Police models utilize either High Luster bluing or Parkerization. • The Express model utilizes a synthetic trigger housing while the Police models use a compressed metal housing. • The Police shotgun barrel is locked down with a “ball detent” system in conjunction with the magazine cap vs. a lesser grade “synthetic magazine spring retainer” lock down as used on the Express system. • The receivers used in Police guns are “vibra honed” to smooth out rough finishes and remove burrs before parkerization or bluing. • Police shotguns use machined ejectors and extractors, as opposed to powdered metal cast which are utilized on the Express models.

MOD1 | 07-13-2008 02:42 PM
Re: T R W (or, what does responding to a HivePoll lead to..?) Hive, Great choice! I don't think you could have done better in a pump action shotgun. As others have mentioned, don't worry about the wear marks or small scuffs - normal wear and tear. Years ago, I reasoned that the firearms I owned and those that I would eventually buy had to be tools and not collectible safe queens. Yes, I still treat them the best I can and never abuse them, but small nicks and scratches are sometimes the consequence of handling.:yes: Take care, Mod1

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