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Black Blade | 07-30-2008 11:01 AM
New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect But the Airport refuses to comply. A lawsuit is in the works. http://www.wjbf.com/media/JBF/2008/0....MGSpooler.img Atlanta, GA -- A new Georgia law will allow passengers to pack pistols riding public transportation. The law also allows Georgians with gun permits to bring their firearms into restaurants that serve alcohol, and into state parks. Critics and supporters agree on one thing: it's the largest expansion of gun rights in Georgia, in recent years. Continued: http://peakoilpetroleumandpreciousme...bans-down.html

Twisted Avatar | 07-30-2008 11:11 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect 1 Attachment(s) Good......... The more liberal the gun laws.... the safer the people will be. standing ovation

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 11:16 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Lets see, I wonder how many antis are screaming "wild west, blood in the streets, O.K. CORRAL!!!!!!"??? Im glad there are finally some real common sense gun laws on the books up there in Ga.

Twisted Avatar | 07-30-2008 11:26 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215528) Lets see, I wonder how many antis are screaming "wild west, blood in the streets, O.K. CORRAL!!!!!!"??? Im glad there are finally some real common sense gun laws on the books up there in Ga.
Nobody is beating florida....... +4 stars T

Heimdhal | 07-30-2008 11:33 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215528) Lets see, I wonder how many antis are screaming "wild west, blood in the streets, O.K. CORRAL!!!!!!"??? Im glad there are finally some real common sense gun laws on the books up there in Ga.
We had them protesting that down here in florida when the castle doctrine was changed. They were whining and bitching that now thered be shoot outs in the intersections, sieges in the grocery store parking lot, mass murder, mahem, vigilante justice. And go figure, we got rid of that very restrictive law and crimes rates went....DOWN! Less murders, less muggings(not in certain areas though of course), less home invansions, fewer car roberys/jackings. And not a single OK CORAL yet :thumpdown I was really hoping to get my Doc Holiday on too! :rant:

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1215553) We had them protesting that down here in florida when the castle doctrine was changed. They were whining and bitching that now thered be shoot outs in the intersections, sieges in the grocery store parking lot, mass murder, mahem, vigilante justice. And go figure, we got rid of that very restrictive law and crimes rates went....DOWN! Less murders, less muggings(not in certain areas though of course), less home invansions, fewer car roberys/jackings. And not a single OK CORAL yet :thumpdown I was really hoping to get my Doc Holiday on too! :rant:
Heh, I remember back in 87 when Bob Martinez signed the shall issue law the antis in the media went nuts with the "wild west" and "blood in the street" bullshit. Then again when Jeb Bush signed the expanded castle doctrine law to our cars and that gave us the right to not have to retreat from any public place we had the right to be they said the same ole tired bullshit. Hell I even remeber them putting up a big billboard on I95 on the Ga.-Fl. border and passing out flyers at the airports telling tourists not to make any Floridian mad because we had the legal right to shoot them dead for any reason (which as we all know we dont). Wild West indeed. Now with that said, The CRIMINALS, many who come from 3rd world nations such as Haiti, Jamacia, Mexico, etc etc etc, where lawlessness is the norm are the problem. They are making Florida as corrupt and lawless as their home countries. But nothing is said about that.

Worldmariner | 07-30-2008 01:12 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215528) Lets see, I wonder how many antis are screaming "wild west, blood in the streets, O.K. CORRAL!!!!!!"??? Im glad there are finally some real common sense gun laws on the books up there in Ga.
The liberal pundits said all that when FL changed our self defense law from "you have to run away" to "blast them in thier boots". What happened? No blood ran in the streets. But our crime did go down!! Imagine that!

Heimdhal | 07-30-2008 01:18 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215640) Heh, I remember back in 87 when Bob Martinez signed the shall issue law the antis in the media went nuts with the "wild west" and "blood in the street" bullshit. Then again when Jeb Bush signed the expanded castle doctrine law to our cars and that gave us the right to not have to retreat from any public place we had the right to be they said the same ole tired bullshit. Hell I even remeber them putting up a big billboard on I95 on the Ga.-Fl. border and passing out flyers at the airports telling tourists not to make any Floridian mad because we had the legal right to shoot them dead for any reason (which as we all know we dont). Wild West indeed. Now with that said, The CRIMINALS, many who come from 3rd world nations such as Haiti, Jamacia, Mexico, etc etc etc, where lawlessness is the norm are the problem. They are making Florida as corrupt and lawless as their home countries. But nothing is said about that.
That is, unfortunatley, the exact reason for our 'dramatic' rise in crime here. I live, as you know, in south florida as well, where imigrant gangs are becoming a HUGE HUGE problem. Especialy in the town up from me, lake worth. Mexican and hatian gangs are running rampant there, and they are start to encrouch on the quieter areas where I live. That said, I think the biggest thing keeping them at bay was the change in the castle doctrine. It didnt STOP the crime in the gang infested areas, but it most certainly kept it from expanding very far.

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 01:20 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Worldmariner (Post 1215700) The liberal pundits said all that when FL changed our self defense law from "you have to run away" to "blast them in thier boots". What happened? No blood ran in the streets. But our crime did go down!! Imagine that!
LOL! I have yet to see one gun fight or dead body in the street

Heimdhal | 07-30-2008 01:22 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215640) Hell I even remeber them putting up a big billboard on I95 on the Ga.-Fl. border and passing out flyers at the airports telling tourists not to make any Floridian mad because we had the legal right to shoot them dead for any reason (which as we all know we dont). .
HA! I remember that too! The bulk of my family lives on Long Island, NY and they still think that we here in florida are waiting for indoor plumbing and the steam engine to come to town! They go nuts about the fact that people own guns down here, especialy me. I love my cousins, aunt and uncles, but its a cryin shame, it really is. I took my cousin out the other day to get something at the corner store and had to get something in my glove box. She went white in the face when she saw a buck knife and small pistol sitting there! "is it real!!!?!?!?!?!" and all that jazz. She wondered about its legality, i assured her it was legal to carry and many in florida DO carry, esepcialy in their cars. She instantly went into that wild west theory, thinking we are all wyatt erps, meeting at noon for our main street duels! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 01:25 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1215709) That is, unfortunatley, the exact reason for our 'dramatic' rise in crime here. I live, as you know, in south florida as well, where imigrant gangs are becoming a HUGE HUGE problem. Especialy in the town up from me, lake worth. Mexican and hatian gangs are running rampant there, and they are start to encrouch on the quieter areas where I live. That said, I think the biggest thing keeping them at bay was the change in the castle doctrine. It didnt STOP the crime in the gang infested areas, but it most certainly kept it from expanding very far.
Thats (They're) the exact reason why Im wanting to relocate my family up to the Dixie, Levy, Gilchrist, county area. I might have to drive further to go to work, but at least I know that we'll be relatively safe there

Twisted Avatar | 07-30-2008 01:26 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1215720) HA! I remember that too! The bulk of my family lives on Long Island, NY and they still think that we here in florida are waiting for indoor plumbing and the steam engine to come to town! They go nuts about the fact that people own guns down here, especialy me. I love my cousins, aunt and uncles, but its a cryin shame, it really is. I took my cousin out the other day to get something at the corner store and had to get something in my glove box. She went white in the face when she saw a buck knife and small pistol sitting there! "is it real!!!?!?!?!?!" and all that jazz. She wondered about its legality, i assured her it was legal to carry and many in florida DO carry, esepcialy in their cars. She instantly went into that wild west theory, thinking we are all wyatt erps, meeting at noon for our main street duels! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Man........... that must be a awesome feeling..... You can have your dirt napper right in the glove box. I gotta get to florida:banghead: T

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 01:29 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1215720) HA! I remember that too! The bulk of my family lives on Long Island, NY and they still think that we here in florida are waiting for indoor plumbing and the steam engine to come to town! They go nuts about the fact that people own guns down here, especialy me. I love my cousins, aunt and uncles, but its a cryin shame, it really is. I took my cousin out the other day to get something at the corner store and had to get something in my glove box. She went white in the face when she saw a buck knife and small pistol sitting there! "is it real!!!?!?!?!?!" and all that jazz. She wondered about its legality, i assured her it was legal to carry and many in florida DO carry, esepcialy in their cars. She instantly went into that wild west theory, thinking we are all wyatt erps, meeting at noon for our main street duels! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
My snobby/arrogant sister in law who lives in rural Va., complained to my wifes mother that we both carried guns and that we thought we were living in the wild west. I about lmao when her mother told her that the crime rate in rural Va. and the crime rate here in metro South Florida were 2 totally different beasts.

Heimdhal | 07-30-2008 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1215724) Man........... that must be a awesome feeling..... You can have your dirt napper right in the glove box. I gotta get to florida:banghead: T
It is a VERY comforting feeling!! I think the law still is(though i havent checked latley) that as long as it takes 3 steps to obtain, the gun anywhere in the cab is legal. And that means like with the glove in the glove box step 1) Open gun and remove from glove box, 2)obtain ammunition/mag from seperate area(center console, door storage area, under seat etc) 3)load mag and rack gun Now if that is still the norm it can be any combination, have gun next to you in the cab in door area, mag in center conosole, etc. Most of us just keep the gun loaded on saftey and if you get pulled over, sneak the mag outta the gun and stash it in some closed area(glove box) etc. ;) Im not sure if you have a CC license if you can have it loaded and ready on your belt/shoulder holster or not though of if you have to unload and store.

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 01:35 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1215724) Man........... that must be a awesome feeling..... You can have your dirt napper right in the glove box. I gotta get to florida:banghead: T
In the glove box??? HEHEHEHEHE!!!! Au contraire mon freir! All state law says that to legally carry your firearm in the car all it has to be is securely encased and not readily accessible. Meaning as long as its holstered (securely encased) and not right next to you out in the open (not readily accessible) so you can grab it and start shooting immediately.

Brent | 07-30-2008 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1215724) Man........... that must be a awesome feeling..... You can have your dirt napper right in the glove box. I gotta get to florida:banghead: T
If you make it FL, try to make it North FL. It is much quieter up here (although who knows how long that will last) and we haven't been hit quite so hard by the housing market. Seriously, if you have any questions feel free to PM me I'll help out in anyway I can. I hadn't realized how many people from FL we have here...good to know I am not alone.

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1215731) It is a VERY comforting feeling!! I think the law still is(though i havent checked latley) that as long as it takes 3 steps to obtain, the gun anywhere in the cab is legal. And that means like with the glove in the glove box step 1) Open gun and remove from glove box, 2)obtain ammunition/mag from seperate area(center console, door storage area, under seat etc) 3)load mag and rack gun Now if that is still the norm it can be any combination, have gun next to you in the cab in door area, mag in center conosole, etc. Most of us just keep the gun loaded on saftey and if you get pulled over, sneak the mag outta the gun and stash it in some closed area(glove box) etc. ;) Im not sure if you have a CC license if you can have it loaded and ready on your belt/shoulder holster or not though of if you have to unload and store.
Nope, no 3 steps. Just as long as its not readily accessible and securely encased. And with a CWFP you can have it on or about your person in your car ready to use with no hassle.

Silver Wolf | 07-30-2008 01:40 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect 1 Attachment(s) Good job Georgia. I'm proud the South is leading the way in gun rights. This is what every good American family should look like...

gunner | 07-30-2008 01:46 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215738) In the glove box??? HEHEHEHEHE!!!! Au contraire mon freir! All state law says that to legally carry your firearm in the car all it has to be is securely encased and not readily accessible. Meaning as long as its holstered (securely encased) and not right next to you out in the open (not readily accessible) so you can grab it and start shooting immediately.
Absolutely, and a zippered case is considered locked Just got my CCW permit - never leave the house unarmed. Not that I have to but I don't really have to have a homeowners insurance policy either

Worldmariner | 07-30-2008 01:47 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1215731) It is a VERY comforting feeling!! I think the law still is(though i havent checked latley) that as long as it takes 3 steps to obtain, the gun anywhere in the cab is legal. And that means like with the glove in the glove box step 1) Open gun and remove from glove box, 2)obtain ammunition/mag from seperate area(center console, door storage area, under seat etc) 3)load mag and rack gun.
Are you talking of Florida? No such thing as the "step" rule in FL. Guns can be kept loaded in the car. The book "Florida Gun Laws 6th Edition" explains it all in easy to understand language.

gunner | 07-30-2008 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1215724) Man........... that must be a awesome feeling..... You can have your dirt napper right in the glove box. I gotta get to florida:banghead: T
As far as gun rights - you bet, this place is great but there are other problems that might make this place seem to lose it's appeal real quick.

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gunner (Post 1215763) As far as gun rights - you bet, this place is great but there are other problems that might make this place seem to lose it's appeal real quick.
Coughcough-RivieraBeach-coughcough http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime....Beach&state=FL

Heimdhal | 07-30-2008 02:18 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect THanks for the updates on the steps rule! Im not sure who told me about it, but it was a very long time ago. I never followed it anyways, Always just kept the gun out of 'immediate' reach just in case a cop really wanted to hassle me. I hear ya about moving Big Rob. Palm Beach county is just getting on my nerves left and right. We are looking at possibly moving to very west boynton or loxahatchee(my brothers out there) but honestly, that still to close for me. A few years ago my wife and I(before we had our baby, before baby was even something we were considering in the near future) were looking at little places to rent in lake worth. THen things started getting REALLY bad there and we said NO FREAKING WAY. Even being armed to the teeth. Honestly, being a white guy in lake worth doesnt just worries the crap outta me. Now that our daughters here, even the good area in boynton beach we live in is starting to worry us because of its proximity to lake worth. Remember that wendys shooting up in West Palm a few months back? I used to work a block down the road from there and ate at that wendys at least 2 or 3 times a week for lunch! Needless to say, I made it known to our clientel(alot of the 'hoodies' from cherry road) that I was a well armed, well trained, crack shot and I wasnt afraid to use those skills(and i almost had to twice, closest i've been to a CQB shoot out in public yet)

Iptuous | 07-30-2008 02:30 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Index those fingers, girls! Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Wolf (Post 1215746) This is what every good American family should look like... http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1217439672

Big_Rob | 07-30-2008 03:27 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Wolf (Post 1215746) Good job Georgia. I'm proud the South is leading the way in gun rights. This is what every good American family should look like...
Darn! I wish my Mom and Dad would have bought me AKs and ARs for Christmas. :bear_angry: HUMPH!!! :bear_angry:

Black Blade | 07-30-2008 03:33 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect In Wyoming it can be loaded and anywhere in the cab. You can be wearing it while driving if you wish. No CCW required. In fact there are more restrictions for a CCW permit holder than "open carry". Go figure.

Saul Mine | 07-30-2008 06:17 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215528) Lets see, I wonder how many antis are screaming "wild west, blood in the streets, O.K. CORRAL!!!!!!"??? Im glad there are finally some real common sense gun laws on the books up there in Ga.
FWIW, The famous gunfight at the OK Corral involved deputies trying to arrest a band of criminals. The criminals lost. Another thing you should remember is that the OK Corral was in Arizona, and it is lawful to this day to openly carry firearms in Arizona except in schools, government buildings, airports, the usual places. I have heard of very few shootouts. You can look up whatever statistics you consider important.

gunner | 07-31-2008 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215794) Coughcough-RivieraBeach-coughcough http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime....Beach&state=FL
Was thinking about the upcoming tax burden, depressed real estate values and faltering economy but since we're talking about crime... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=pw5pZpGh5Hg (45 miles from me and it's not the only "hood" in the area :banghead:)

Big_Rob | 07-31-2008 12:19 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 1216180) FWIW, The famous gunfight at the OK Corral involved deputies trying to arrest a band of criminals. The criminals lost. Another thing you should remember is that the OK Corral was in Arizona, and it is lawful to this day to openly carry firearms in Arizona except in schools, government buildings, airports, the usual places. I have heard of very few shootouts. You can look up whatever statistics you consider important.
LOL! We haven't had any shootouts or blood flowing in the streets down here either. But for some odd reason, the antis always have those same tire excuses why not to pass any good gun laws such as they did when Jeb Bush expanded our castle doctrine laws.

Juristic Person | 07-31-2008 01:37 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Gun law "allows"..... Not impressed. One should need permission from any government body to exercise a natural right. Permits can be revoked. .

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Goldhedge | 07-31-2008 01:43 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Just returned from Tucson. Went to a Wendy's there and a guy was packin. I wondered why, and now I know!

Juristic Person | 07-31-2008 01:47 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 1217249) Just returned from Tucson. Went to a Wendy's there and a guy was packin. I wondered why, and now I know!
You don't need permission to open carry anywhere in Arizona. ALthough if you are on private property, the owner has the right ot tell you to check your gun at the door before entering.

Tn...Andy | 07-31-2008 01:51 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Virginia the same way.

WilliamC | 07-31-2008 01:57 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Open carry is legal in Mississippi too. And we are a "shall issue" State for concealed carry permits. And we passed a version of the castle doctrine law a couple of years ago so that if you shoot and kill an intruder in your home you typically won't even be charged with a crime. Now if we could just do something about the obesity rate around here...

Juristic Person | 07-31-2008 02:08 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamC (Post 1217267) Now if we could just do something about the obesity rate around here...
Personal issue. Personal choice. Personal solution.

Worldmariner | 08-04-2008 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1215794) Coughcough-RivieraBeach-coughcough http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime....Beach&state=FL
YUP! I live in the same county.

voodoo1951 | 08-05-2008 07:22 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Yeah, i used to eat at that wendys on military trail too. Moved to the Space Coast 8 years ago. WPB is a TOILET...!!!

stranger | 08-05-2008 08:24 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamC (Post 1217267) Open carry is legal in Mississippi too. And we are a "shall issue" State for concealed carry permits. And we passed a version of the castle doctrine law a couple of years ago so that if you shoot and kill an intruder in your home you typically won't even be charged with a crime. Now if we could just do something about the obesity rate around here...
Yup. No duty to retreat from your home, car, business, or any public place. And you can use deadly force in defense of someone else in the same areas without fear of criminal charges. Good to see a fellow Miss'ippian on board...

Worldmariner | 08-05-2008 11:35 AM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoo1951 (Post 1223773) Yeah, i used to eat at that wendys on military trail too. Moved to the Space Coast 8 years ago. WPB is a TOILET...!!!
I ate at that Wendy's (the one right beside Greater Yamaha) the day BEFORE the crazy Haitian immigrant lost his mind and whacked those folks. I had Ruger SP101 in pocket. Believe me, THAT is why I carry even in the Hobe Sound/Tequesta/WPB area. Interestingly enough, I moved down from Melbourne to WPB because there were just not enough single people my age (35-45). WOW what a difference 90 minutes on I95 can make!

Black Blade | 08-11-2008 05:44 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect Judge rules guns may not be carried in airport GeorgiaCarry.org, Rep. Bearden had contended new law nullified ban. By BILL RANKIN The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 08/11/08 People with firearms licenses will not be allowed to take guns into Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, a federal judge ruled Monday. U.S. District Court Judge Marvin Shoob refused to grant a preliminary injunction in favor of GeorgiaCarry.org and state Rep. Timothy Bearden (R-Villa Rica) after hearing almost two hours of testimony and arguments. The gun-rights group and Bearden contended that House Bill 89, which became law July 1, no longer makes it illegal for people with firearms licenses to carry guns in nonsecure areas of public airports in Georgia. City and airport officials have threatened to arrest anyone carrying a weapon onto airport property. http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...t_airport.html

poor boy | 08-11-2008 08:21 PM
Re: New Georgia Gun Law Takes Effect I hadn't realized how many people from FL we have here...good to know I am not alone.[/QUOTE] 32068

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