Gold & Silver Forum (http://goldismoney.info/forums/index.php)
- Firearms (http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159)
- - bad 7.62x54r ammo (http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=360015)

NOOB | 03-19-2009 05:30 PM
bad 7.62x54r ammo I ordered some 182 grain bulgarian ammo from ammunition to go. Its bad don't buy it. I think its off their website now anyway. Anybody else get any? I called customer service and the lady I need to talk to is off till monday. I have bought quit a bit of stuff from them over the last few years with no problems. I will update you guys with the answer I get. The cases are cracked, bullets unseated and covered in corrosion. I pulled out 3 bullets trying to chamber and unchamber a round. Gunpowder everywhere. I bought some russian on the same order and it looks great. Just a heads up if they put it back on the website.

Tallships | 03-19-2009 05:48 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo was it like that inside a tin ?

NOOB | 03-19-2009 05:51 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo yes. I have only opened 1 tin of 6 and its the worst ammo I have ever seen. I have bought lots of surplus over the years and this is horrible.

NOOB | 03-19-2009 06:14 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo 2 Attachment(s) The tin has a small hole in it. The other ammo looks good. I guess I should open them all now. Not what I really want to do. First tin on right second one on left

Fullpower | 03-19-2009 06:22 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Two things I would like to predict: One: Ammo to Go will refund your money for the defective product PROMPTLY. Two: The other INTACT cans will contain good clean serviceable cartridges. do please keep us posted.

Twisted Avatar | 03-19-2009 06:28 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1635169) Two things I would like to predict: One: Ammo to Go will refund your money for the defective product PROMPTLY. Two: The other INTACT cans will contain good clean serviceable cartridges. do please keep us posted.
Yes please keep us posted ........ this is a nightmare senario......buying something and the day you need it is screwed up. I pray it was that hole and it was kept in a warm enviroment is what did the damage to that specific case. Fingers crossed........ thanks for the MAJOR heads up. T

mike77777 | 03-19-2009 06:42 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo 1 Attachment(s) sealed cases are good shape, glad hordes of zombies weren't advancing upon you as this tin was opened in the fighting position. thanx for the pics.

CrufflerJJ | 03-19-2009 09:20 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1635201) sealed cases are good shape, glad hordes of zombies weren't advancing upon you as this tin was opened in the fighting position. thanx for the pics.
Well....I'm not sure I'd want to play with any sort of Com-Bloc "spam can" in case of a zombie attack. The Yugoslavian (tin sheet in a wooden box, but with a wooden handled wire cutter thingie") is about the best I've seen, but it's still not as nice as a ruck full of loaded mags.

Igotyour6 | 03-19-2009 09:37 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1635568) ruck full of loaded mags.
:36_1_32v:

Usury | 03-20-2009 01:16 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Aieeeee......gee I'd NEVER put anything that looks like that out of the box into my rifle.

End of Hope | 03-20-2009 01:51 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo A perfect example of why I check EACH & EVERY round I have in my possession when I first obtain it. Also an example of why I won't buy "foreign surplus," especially sight-unseen. There are indeed rounds which are worse than having no rounds at all.

90%RealMoney | 03-20-2009 11:59 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo I just noticed that Centerfire Systems jacked up the price on their 7.62X54R spam cans. A week ago the 440 round tins were $79.99 plus shipping. Now they are $109.99 plus shipping. Wow! 40% more, just like that. I think J&G has the best price right now.

gypsybiker45 | 03-21-2009 06:26 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo I bought some old Soviet stuff a few years back, it was for machine guns. many cases were dinged and some wouldnt even feed in the Nagant let alone the SVT-40.I stay away from that old Warsaw pact ammo.

Twisted Avatar | 03-21-2009 07:33 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsybiker45 (Post 1638116) I bought some old Soviet stuff a few years back, it was for machine guns. many cases were dinged and some wouldnt even feed in the Nagant let alone the SVT-40.I stay away from that old Warsaw pact ammo.
Is there a series of years that are known to bad on purpose??? For example if I wanted to buy some and I find out it Milsurp from the 80s will that raise a instant red flag??? T

CrufflerJJ | 03-21-2009 08:20 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1638139) Is there a series of years that are known to bad on purpose??? For example if I wanted to buy some and I find out it Milsurp from the 80s will that raise a instant red flag??? T
The only ComBloc 7.62x54R I've heard & seen to be crappy is Albanian. The Albanian that I had worked just fine in my rifles, but I could see dinged case mouths & varying thicknesses on the rims. If you were trying to use this stuff in a rifle with a tight chamber/tight headspace (i.e. Finnish Mosin Nagant 39), it could cause some problems. Czech light ball 7.62x54R ammo in a lacquered steel case is said to be great ammo, but the lacquer will sometimes melt in a hot rifle & cause difficult extraction. Again, this isn't a problem in all rifles, but can make shooting it a real "joy" if you have a rifle that doesn't like it. Polishing the chamber with a brush & brake cleaner (to remove lacquer deposits) may help in this case.

NOOB | 03-25-2009 12:50 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo After talking with the folks at ammunition to go they have refunded my money for the bad tin of ammo. Took a few days to get a response but they did the right thing. I am out shipping but in their defense they can't inspect every tin of 30 year old ammo.

<SLV> | 03-25-2009 01:13 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by NOOB (Post 1645260) After talking with the folks at ammunition to go they have refunded my money for the bad tin of ammo. Took a few days to get a response but they did the right thing. I am out shipping but in their defense they can't inspect every tin of 30 year old ammo.
Have you opened the rest of the cans?

NOOB | 03-25-2009 01:23 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1645289) Have you opened the rest of the cans?
Yes, they are fine. I shot some this last weekend. Only thing is the primers are getting blown out on each round after you fire. Fairly accurate stuff though. Cheaper than shooting 308.

<SLV> | 03-25-2009 01:33 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by NOOB (Post 1645309) Yes, they are fine. I shot some this last weekend. Only thing is the primers are getting blown out on each round after you fire. Fairly accurate stuff though. Cheaper than shooting 308.
Sounds like a bit of a pressure problem.

Tallships | 03-25-2009 05:03 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Never heard of primers coming out before...

CrufflerJJ | 03-25-2009 05:22 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 1645665) Never heard of primers coming out before...
Primers can back out in 2 cases that come to mind: - low pressure loads (not likely with mil-surplus ammo) - excessive headspace NOOB - have you checked the headspace on your rifle?

NOOB | 03-25-2009 06:46 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1645694) Primers can back out in 2 cases that come to mind: - low pressure loads (not likely with mil-surplus ammo) - excessive headspace NOOB - have you checked the headspace on your rifle?
No, Just got it last week and shot it this last weekend. A mosin 28-76 target model. What do I need to check the headspace?

NOOB | 03-25-2009 06:53 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo I just looked up headspace gauges. Anyone ever use the "coin" type. Seems easier because you don't have to remove firing pin or extractor.

CrufflerJJ | 03-25-2009 07:20 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by NOOB (Post 1645830) No, Just got it last week and shot it this last weekend. A mosin 28-76 target model. What do I need to check the headspace?
Well that is freakin' WEIRD. A 28-76 should have tight headspace if anything else (for accuracy's sake). Those puppies were babied by the users - not slung around/abused like some Soviet MN91/30 rifles. I've never used a coin type gauge. I modified my no-go gauge like in the attached picture (ground off a wee bit of the rim to clear the extractor). Of all my Mosin Nagant rifles, only ONE (an old Russian MN91) has failed headspace.

NOOB | 03-25-2009 08:10 PM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo I just put a caliper on the ammo and it is a little longer 'due to the heavier bullet?' than a 147 grain russian and a 140 something czech. The russian didn't pop primers but the bulgarian did. Crap ammo maybe?

Unclad Lad | 03-27-2009 12:49 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo The Bulgarian heavy ball is known to have bad lots: http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo016.htm I find this site to be invaluable: http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo.htm

NOOB | 03-27-2009 07:20 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo I have the 10 over 54 headstamp. Known to blow primers after posting on gunboards. Thanks for the mosin link.

90%RealMoney | 03-31-2009 01:42 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo Quote:
Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1637808) I just noticed that Centerfire Systems jacked up the price on their 7.62X54R spam cans. A week ago the 440 round tins were $79.99 plus shipping. Now they are $109.99 plus shipping. Wow! 40% more, just like that. I think J&G has the best price right now.
Just checked Centerfire Systems website tonight. 7.62X54R spam cans are another $15.00 higher! $124.99 now. Wow, they jacked the price up twice in the last two weeks. Others are still selling it for alot cheaper, I don't get it. I think alot of people just don't bother shopping around!

gypsybiker45 | 03-31-2009 05:13 AM
Re: bad 7.62x54r ammo I should rephrase my comment, "I try and stay away from old Warsaw pact stuff" I mean I stay away from sealed tins. I like to get "loose" ammo so i can inspect it. thats all,the batch i was speaking of i got was horrid, and it was Russian,I do avoid Balkan ammunition except for Serbian. I just dont trust it.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:50 AM. |

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright = None use it and Link to GIM