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Big_Rob | 12-08-2008 09:46 AM
Sending out the memo Obama: Gun owners do not need to stock up December 8, 2008 BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...120808.article As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month. "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," Obama said at a news conference. "Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. I said that throughout the campaign. I haven't indicated anything different during the transition. I think people can take me at my word." But National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it's not Obama's words — but his legislative track record — that has gun-buyers flocking to the stores. "Prior to his campaign for president, his record as a state legislator and as a U.S. Senator shows he voted for the most stringent forms of gun control, the most Draconian legislation, gun bans, ammunition bans and even an increase in federal excise taxes up to 500 percent for every gun and firearm sold," Arulanandam said. Obama answered "yes" in 1996 to a questionnaire from an Illinois group on whether he supported a handgun ban. But he later said a staffer filled out that answer and he did not support a ban. Nationally, background checks for gun purchases jumped nearly 49 percent during the week Obama was elected, compared with the same time period last year, according to the FBI's National Instant Background Check System. Anecdotally, gun dealers around the country have reported spikes in sales. The Illinois State Rifle Association Reports gun sales for November were 38 percent higher than last year. "We don't dispute [the gun sales hike] because the numbers from the federal system certainly confirm that there is increased activity out there. We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence. "Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."

JJ_ | 12-08-2008 09:59 AM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Gun owners do not need to stock up
:censored:liar... Quote:
"We don't dispute [the gun sales hike] because the numbers from the federal system certainly confirm that there is increased activity out there. We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence. "Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."
Makes no difference to me what he thinks... last time I checked I could do whatever the :censored: was lawful that I saw fit to DO.

igorthesmall | 12-08-2008 09:59 AM
Re: Sending out the memo He who panics first, wins.

Iptuous | 12-08-2008 10:00 AM
Re: Sending out the memo Oh thank goodness! i was afraid he was going to be an anti-gunner! i'm glad that's cleared up....

Glass | 12-08-2008 10:04 AM
Re: Sending out the memo yep stock up. double your efforts. he has spoken and the word is clear. he's a comin afta ya.

SLV>GLD | 12-08-2008 10:16 AM
Re: Sending out the memo Whatever happened to our doublespeak thread? I think this might belong there.

oz in sc | 12-08-2008 10:42 AM
Re: Sending out the memo Read this carefully... Quote:
Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear
Notice the first word....lawful. When a law is enacted making all semi-auto firearms illegal,owners would no longer BE lawful... Remember Obama is a lawyer...this is worded to make some people feel at ease. He still supports a permanent ban on 'assault weapons'.

SLV>GLD | 12-08-2008 10:46 AM
Re: Sending out the memo I agree with your post in spirit but even within its' text you confuse lawful with legal.

flash91 | 12-08-2008 12:20 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1455015) ... "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," ...
Common sense allows limitation by mutual agreement. The second amendment allows for no limitation (shall not be infringed) The second amendment was formed under un-common sense, by men wiser than the batch we have now.

Big_Rob | 12-08-2008 12:43 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1455282) Common sense allows limitation by mutual agreement. The second amendment allows for no limitation (shall not be infringed) The second amendment was formed under un-common sense, by men wiser than the batch we have now.
Its up to We The People not to mutually agree to that limitation. But of course, the only way that can be done I fear is by watering the tree of liberty.

JJ_ | 12-08-2008 12:48 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1455317) Its up to We The People not to mutually agree to that limitation. But of course, the only way that can be done I fear is by watering the tree of liberty.
Got buckets?

madfranks | 12-08-2008 02:01 PM
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"We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence.
When you can't win an argument with the facts, resort to name calling.

reviver | 12-08-2008 02:06 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1455282) The second amendment was formed under un-common sense, by men wiser than the batch we have now.
Ever note how 'common sense' is an oxymoron these days. Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1455321) Got buckets?
Yeah, we need to form 'bucket brigades'. Get together with neighbors who can listen to the sense of todays world. Most of them know by now that something is wrong. They are just not sure what.

wallew | 12-08-2008 02:17 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1455015) ... We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more
Yeah, and who defines 'more than enough guns'? THE BRADY AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE people? Yeah, right. If you believe any of the f***ers, then DO NOT BUY ANYTHING. As a matter of fact, there have been gun buy backs all over the place lately. But IF YOU SEE WHAT I SEE, IF YOU FEEL WHAT I FEEL... Then you KNOW where this is going to go. And mark my words, it will NOT be good for gun owners or the Second Amendment.

Rumplestiltskin | 12-08-2008 02:52 PM
Re: Sending out the memo http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=politics By BRENDAN FARRINGTON Friday, March 30, 2007 Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday accused President Bush of failing to respect the Constitution amid the uproar over the firing of eight federal prosecutors.... "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution," Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser. ....................... One wonders which Amendments and/or Clauses Obama respects. Certainly not the 14th; and we all know what's happening with the 2nd. Obama made it evident how he feels about the 1st during his campaign with "Truth Squads" in Iowa. Etc.

The Argent Dragon | 12-08-2008 02:54 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1455015) .....We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."
Whew.........I've reached my quota and this means I can rest easy now, right ??? :10_1_19:

SLV>GLD | 12-08-2008 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1455478) Whew.........I've reached my quota and this means I can rest easy now, right ??? :10_1_19:
Yes and no, comrade. Yes, you have all you need but you must work to provide for your comrades. The next AR you should ship to my address. :507:

TomD | 12-08-2008 05:14 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Now if the Obama would be so kind so as to very clearly define "common sense gun laws". I seem to remember that he agreed that the Washington DC total ban was common sense.

Lars Ragnarsson | 12-08-2008 06:18 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1455707) Now if the Obama would be so kind so as to very clearly define "common sense gun laws". I seem to remember that he agreed that the Washington DC total ban was common sense.
Verbiage like this is standard for the neo-libs. They use terms like, "anyone with common sense will agree..." or "any reasonable person can see..." in order to insinuate that if you don't agree with that point of view, you are devoid of common sense and are unreasonable. One of our resident neo-libs does it all the time on this board - offering to use small words so us ignoramuses can understand his point. It's a standard debate ploy designed to plant the seed of doubt within someone with an alternate point of view. It works with sheep, which is clearly the target here. "Gee, I don't want to sound stupid - I guess more gun laws are for our own good. After all, it's just common sense."

Big_Rob | 12-08-2008 08:08 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1455850) "Gee, I don't want to sound stupid - I guess more gun laws are for our own good. After all, it's just common sense."
LOL! I can imagine that being said in Alan Alda voice. http://www.memphisflyer.com/binary/b...lan_alda_1.jpg

FireMattMillen | 12-08-2008 08:54 PM
Re: Sending out the memo Always believe the opposite of what state officials tell you, and the corollary, always do the opposite of what they advise you. So, it's easy to know how to respond to the latest edict from dictator-elect Obama. He says: gunowners have nothing to fear from him, and therefore you should not stock up on guns and ammo. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/024313.html

ohioarmedneutrality | 12-08-2008 11:28 PM
Re: Sending out the memo I follow Rockwell's Law as much as possible. Scraped together some more $$ to buy some ammo today. Not a lot, but just adding to the stockpile a little bit at a time. It's too cold out to go shooting, so my ammo cache just keeps growing.

Horn | 12-09-2008 12:36 AM
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I think people can take me at my word.
Why do they keep insulting my intelligence with this giber-nash these days? Were these his actual words? If so, the world is in for another 4 years of stupidity.

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