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Ebie | 09-06-2008 08:22 PM
Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Check out this video: YouTube - Silenced 1895 Nagant revolver (NFA)
YouTube - Silenced 1895 Nagant revolver (NFA)
Be well.

Caligula | 09-06-2008 08:29 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Man that's quiet! Wierd how it still makes an echo though....

Ebie | 09-06-2008 08:42 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver It's said that the revolver can be actually the most quiet suppressed firearm. Obviously, one must have a mechanism to seal the "gap".

Heimdhal | 09-06-2008 08:49 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Honestly...thats freaking NUTZ! If I liked revolvers more, that setup would be a great choice. Its like dry firing a cap gun!

RiverRat | 09-06-2008 08:52 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver :rolleyes_m: Cool...I'd call that quite and then some. BTW: Correct ammo for these type revolvers isn't cheap.A friend has one and has been shooting 32 S&W long ammo in his for the past ten years...the fired cases bulge a little,but he doesn't reload,so not a problem. Loud little buggers with the 32's though...the original ammo has a longer shell case length and seals the gas, reduces the noise factor some,but not by much. Cobra 9mm silencer ? I'll check it out.

mkinla | 09-06-2008 09:03 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Isn't that illegal?

platinumdude | 09-06-2008 09:11 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 1274739) Isn't that illegal?
Not if you have that license for it. It's expensive though.

Caligula | 09-06-2008 10:39 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 1274812) That 'echo' is the sonic crack since it is unlikely to be subsonic ammo.
Thanks. :wink:

Saul Mine | 09-07-2008 06:22 AM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver The Sound of Movies http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/ The secret agent fixes his steely gaze on the crowd across the street in a park seven stories below. He methodically assembles his weapon. First he locks together the stock and barrel, then snaps his telescopic sight into position. Lastly, he screws on an oversized silencer 3 . He carefully selects a shiny 7.62 mm NATO round (chosen, no doubt, for its long range accuracy) and chambers it using the weapon's bolt action. A dastardly terrorist wanders into view. The secret agent raises his weapon and coolly squeezes the trigger. On the street below onlookers hear an innocuous "fut" sound. The secret agent steps back from the window undetected, his assignment completed. Unfortunately for the secret agent, he's not so likely to go undetected. A 7.62 NATO round is supersonic and would cause a miniature sonic boom even if the muzzle blast from the rifle was muffled 4. Yes, the miniature sonic boom is not as easy to pinpoint as a muzzle blast but does produce a very noticeable noise which can draw attention to a shooter. Even silencing the muzzle blast to a mere "fut" is next to impossible. Muzzle blast noise can exceed 150 decibels 5 (measured at the shooter's location) and is one of the loudest sounds humans are likely to hear. Silencers, suppressors, or cans as they are sometimes called 6 have to be precision made using very exacting technology to have any hope of quieting such a loud noise. Considering that the threshold of pain is only 130 dB, we're actually glad Hollywood sound tracks don't accurately reproduce the noise of muzzle blasts. If they did, the only sound action movie fans would hear as they staggered out of the theater would be the ringing in their ears. In Blackhawk Down, the soldier who had an automatic weapon fired near his ears really would have been left temporarily, if not permanently, deafened. SWAT teams sometimes use silencers, not for stealth, but to insure that they will be able to hear if one of the SWAT team members fires a shot inside the confined space of a room. Discharging an unsilenced firearm in a room can cause temporary deafness. Silencers are also sometimes used in raids on clandestine methamphetamine labs. Discharging a normal firearm produces a muzzle flash which can set off volatile fumes. Silencers act as flash suppressors. Sound is a form of energy transfer and we could define loudness in terms of the energy per unit of time or power output of the sound, but it wouldn't give the complete picture. Sound waves travel outward like balloons expanding around their source. The sound's power is distributed on the surface of the wave which increases with the square of the distance from its source. In other words, the amount of energy per unit of area in the wave declines rapidly as the wave moves away from the source. About the same wave area contacts a person's ear regardless of how far she or he is away from the source. However, the area contains significantly less energy when the source is far away rather than up close. This explains why the sound is not as loud. Power per unit of area (called sound intensity) would be a better measure of loudness than just power alone. Sound intensity accounts for the fact that the ear receives less power when the source is far away rather than close. Unfortunately, human perception of loudness is not linear with respect to sound intensity. In other words, doubling the sound intensity does not double the perception of loudness. The perception of loudness is, roughly speaking, logarithmic and is represented somewhat better by the decibel scale as follows: b = 10 log(I / Io) where: b = relative sound intensity in decibels Io = sound intensity at the threshold of hearing (1 x 10-12 W/m2) I = sound intensity of the noise (W/m2) Even the decibel falls short of being a true indicator of perceived loudness. The loudness of a noise also depends on its frequency or pitch. Sound measuring equipment, at least partially, accounts for this fact by using various frequency weighting filters. The dBA scale is the most common of these applications. However, if we assume that a muzzle blast's frequency content is in the general vicinity of optimum hearing and that the blast's frequency content doesn't change with loudness, then the unweighted decibel scale is a reasonable indicator of relative loudness for purposes of discussion. The logarithmic nature of hearing makes muzzle blasts even harder to silence. Let's see what happens to the relative loudness level if we reduce the sound intensity of a muzzle blast by a factor of two. This means we're removing half of the energy from the sound waves. Using the above equation we get the following: b = 10 log[I / (2Io)] = 10 log(I / Io) - 10 log(2) = b0 - 10 log(2) = 150 - 3.0 = 147 dB Cutting sound intensity in half only reduces the relative loudness by merely 3 dB. This would be barely noticeable. A good set of ear plugs typically reduces noise by about 30 dB and so, would reduce a muzzle blast from 150 to 120 dB, still a very loud noise. We estimate that the innocuous "fut" sound made by a movie silencer is roughly 50 dB 7, a whopping noise reduction of 100 dB from the dB level of a muzzle blast! In other words, a silencer has to reduce sound intensity of a muzzle blast by a factor of 1010 to give such a low relative loudness. This can be done with a very well designed and precision made silencer using subsonic ammunition. However, even commercially available silencers are more likely to give a reduction of 30 to 40 dB similar to ear plugs, than the incredible 100 dB reduction frequently portrayed in movies, especially when used on high-powered rifles. We love the "highly effective" makeshift silencers which movie characters cobble together on the spur of the moment. These have been created with everything from pillows to potatoes. Our favorite is a scene from On Deadly Ground where Steven Seagal "effectively" silences a semi-automatic handgun by taping an empty 2 liter soft drink bottle to the end of the gun barrel and gets the usual "fut" sound. At best, jury-rigged silencers can reduce noise levels only slightly. At worst, they can become obstructed causing the silencer or gun barrel causing it to overpressure and burst 8. We might add that unregistered silencers are also illegal, even if they are relatively ineffective homemade creations.

Iptuous | 09-07-2008 09:23 AM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 1274812) Not really. NFA tax for suppressor = $200 Cost of can = a couple of hundred and up That 'echo' is the sonic crack since it is unlikely to be subsonic ammo.
TITCM.... (and technically it's not a 'license', it's simply a tax stamp) For more information, see: http://www.precisionweapons.com/cart...Legalities.asp

shades2 | 09-07-2008 11:48 AM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver He he. Reminds me of a friend. We were at an indoor range in a booth firing a H&K USP 9mm. We both had eyes and ears on. So he says (.. shouts) to me, "Hey, I'm going to take the earmuffs off and have a shot". I said "Don't do it!", but 'lo and behold he removes his earmuffs, and in the enclosed space of the steel booth fires off a round. Needless to say he was somewhat sore and immediately stuck his earmuffs back on. I should have rubbed it in by turning up the radio, and shouting to him in the car on the way home. :D When I was a kid I nearly deafened myself in a hallway by firing a starter cap in a cap gun, oh man, my ears rang and I thought I was going to be deaf for life... Normal hearing returned the next day, but I can remember how painful it was. Suppressors are great if they can save your hearing and avoid the annoying need to wear earmuffs.

EireGoBragh | 09-07-2008 01:46 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver Here's a .308 suppressed... YouTube - Suppressed Rem 700P 308
YouTube - Suppressed Rem 700P 308

mtnman | 09-07-2008 01:48 PM
Re: Silenced (Supressed) Revolver The revolver can be bought for $80 (with out suppressor) and they have the correct ammo at $20 for 50 rounds. http://www.classicarms.us/

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