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TomD | 05-14-2009 09:15 AM
When seconds count, the police are minutes away House burns down in Atlanta as emergency calls were put on hold for 20 minutes. Atlanta residents complain of city�s slow response to house fire By Christian Boone The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Wednesday, May 13, 2009 Neighbors alerting 911 about a small house fire in west Atlanta Saturday afternoon say they waited on hold 20 minutes � so long that some decided to fight the blaze themselves with a garden hose. The house is a total loss, its owner said. Recent headlines: * 3 teens still sought in Grant Park bartender's slaying * Thieves grab clothes, jewelry from Midtown boutique * Symphony's future home still in limbo � Atlanta and Fulton County news �The damage is extensive because they didn�t get here fast enough,� said Janice Black, who lives across the street from the charred bungalow at 526 Dollar Mill Road. She said she was on hold �20-to-25 minutes.� �I was shocked when I finally got through to a real person,� Black said. Witnesses are left wondering if they can count on the city�s emergency service. The target response time for calls to 911 is 10 seconds, according to Miles Bulter, the city�s 911 communications center director. Addison Williams, who lives next door to the burned house, said he and his mother-in-law waited 15 minutes on hold. She timed the response by a clock on her bedroom wall, he said. �That house burned at least 30 minutes before the first engine got over here,� said Williams, who said he called at 4:09 p.m., soon after the blaze was ignited. �They didn�t get there until 4:35.� Butler referred questions to Atlanta police. Police spokeswoman Lisa Keyes said in an e-mail that an investigation was under way but would not elaborate. �This is a world-class city,� said Courtney Martin, who, with her husband, owned the Dollar Mill Road house. �How something like this could happen is mind-boggling.� The College Park attorney said she is pursuing legal action against the city. �It�s frustrating because it didn�t have to happen,� said Martin, who was leasing the residence at the time of the fire. �It didn�t have to burn like that. It was just a small basement fire.� So small, one witness said, neighbors initially went after it with a garden house. �There wasn�t no one getting through to 911, so we took a hose down there� said Robert Ramey, who was at his brother�s house two doors away. �But by that time, it was starting to spread.� A copy of the 911 audiotape from Saturday�s fire was not immediately available, Atlanta police said Wednesday. On Jan. 29, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution asked the city for a copy of its database of 911 emergency response information for the last five years. The city has so far refused to make it available to the AJC. That request followed a Jan. 24 Grant Park blaze that went unattended more than 20 minutes, destroying Wilford Reed�s home of 40 years. Firefighters were sent to the wrong address and soon after the incident Butler acknowledged that an operator could have done a better job verifying the location. �For us, this has been a learning experience,� Butler said afterwards. At the time the 911 Center had staff of 138 employees, with 33 jobs unfilled. Atlanta, which is budgeted for 160 emergency operators, remained about three dozen operators short of a full staff as of April 20. Some of the witnesses responding to Saturday�s fire say their calls were diverted to either Fulton or Cobb counties, who reported similar difficulties reaching Atlanta�s 911 Center. �Even 911 couldn�t get hold of 911,� said Martin, noting her house sits less than three miles away from the nearest fire station, Number 9 on 3501 Martin L. King Jr. Dr. Personnel from that station arrived in 5 minutes, 17 seconds after being dispatched, Atlanta Department of Fire Rescue spokesman Bill May said Wednesday. In all, three engines, three ladder trucks and two battalion chief vehicles reported to the blaze. �From everything I heard, it went well,� May said. � Staff writer Jeremy Redmon contributed to this report.

Twisted Avatar | 05-14-2009 09:36 AM
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Mill Man | 05-14-2009 08:15 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Just a few weeks ago there was a young lady delivering papers here locally very early in the morning. She spotted a fire that started in a trash can next to a garage attached to the house. The owners weren't home but she got the next door neighbor up and he called 911 then they fought the fire with a garden hose and managed to get it out, keeping the damage to the house to a bare minimum. The local fire chief was quoted as saying that while they were successful in getting the fire out people should really leave things like that to the professionals otherwise they might get hurt.

Ag_man | 05-14-2009 08:36 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Quote:
�This is a world-class city,� said Courtney Martin, who, with her husband, owned the Dollar Mill Road house. �How something like this could happen is mind-boggling.�
More like 3rd-world.

Shasta Gold | 05-14-2009 09:23 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Mobile 911 in most cities is a complete joke. "Thank you for calling 911. Please hold for the next operator..." and you will hear that for the next 5 to 10 minutes at minimum. I guess regular 911 is getting - or is already - as bad. When a thug comes to my home, I simply dial M-O-S-S-B-E-R-G 5-9-0. If a fire breaks out, I call the Fire Department's seven-digit emergency line.

Satyr | 05-14-2009 09:37 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away And to think TS hasn't even started to HTF yet.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 05-14-2009 11:02 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Quote:
Originally Posted by Mill Man (Post 1723162) Just a few weeks ago there was a young lady delivering papers here locally very early in the morning. She spotted a fire that started in a trash can next to a garage attached to the house. The owners weren't home but she got the next door neighbor up and he called 911 then they fought the fire with a garden hose and managed to get it out, keeping the damage to the house to a bare minimum. The local fire chief was quoted as saying that while they were successful in getting the fire out people should really leave things like that to the professionals otherwise they might get hurt.
I've always hated this line of reasoning. I don't care about getting hurt. I do care about fires not occuring. I too have fought a fire with a garden hose before the fire dept. arrived. Back when I was in school, I was heading home on my bike about 9pm at night. I always take this back alley which goes between two sets of backyards. I am rolling home the way I always do and I see this huge fire engulfing one of the apartments (this is only 1 block from my house). There are already some people watching, but they're behind the wall on the other side of the alley; I am the only person in the alley. They're using the garden hose to spray their own roof so their house doesn't catch on fire. I had them hand me their hose through the fence so I could spray the opposite fence, which was on fire. (Chainlink with a bush planted into it/growing around it). The bush was catching on fire and it was about to go down the line to other houses. The apartment building was completely demolished but I was able to stop the fire from advancing along the fence line to anywhere else. This was all while I heard the fire department circling the block over and over because they couldn't figure out that the fire was in an alley/bike path, not on the main street. It was a weird feeling to just come up on a huge fire out of nowhere. And I was pretty scared when the Air Conditioning units started exploding.

SilverNuts@Bolts | 05-14-2009 11:07 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away When seconds count, the police are minutes away. Priceless :coolbeer::adore::s9::emotions16::ARMS1:

Unclad Lad | 05-16-2009 07:16 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Quote:
The College Park attorney said she is pursuing legal action against the city.
She'll lose if it goes to trial, since city services are under no obligation blah blah blah... But there will be a quiet settlement, with no admission of wrongdoing by anyone.

Twisted Avatar | 05-16-2009 07:27 PM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1725819) She'll lose if it goes to trial, since city services are under no obligation blah blah blah... But there will be a quiet settlement, with no admission of wrongdoing by anyone.
Quoted for truth

leadfoot | 05-17-2009 02:33 AM
Re: When seconds count, the police are minutes away Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasta Gold (Post 1723295) Mobile 911 in most cities is a complete joke. "Thank you for calling 911. Please hold for the next operator..." and you will hear that for the next 5 to 10 minutes at minimum. I guess regular 911 is getting - or is already - as bad.
It's partly, but only partly, because bozos keep dialing 911 for things like poor service at Burger King or locking themselves inside of their own cars.

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