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TomD | 05-18-2009 10:45 AM
Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism This is from today's Wall St Journal story follows: Amid so much other news, a Senate vote last week to allow loaded guns in national parks slipped under the media radar. The vote shows how the political cause of gun control is as dead as a mounted moose. By 67-29, the Senate passed Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn's amendment to let law-abiding visitors carry legal firearms into national parks. This overturns a 1983 federal rule requiring that firearms be kept unloaded and in an inaccessible place such as a trunk of a car. The provision (now part of credit-card legislation) protects Second Amendment rights, and it preserves the right of states to pass firearm laws that apply consistently, even on federal lands. As recently as the 1990s, guns in parks legislation would have provoked a Congressional uproar. But gun control has proven to be a consistent political loser, and last year the Supreme Court cast doubt on state gun bans. No fewer than 27 Democrats voted for Mr. Coburn's amendment, and the ayes included Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is up for re-election in Nevada next year. Congressional liberals are furious, and are threatening to hold up the credit-card bill, much as they have held up Washington, D.C. voting-rights legislation to which Republicans attached gun-owner protections. Holding up both bad bills forever would be fine with us, but in any case it's clear liberals have lost the gun control debate even within their own party.

Heimdhal | 05-18-2009 10:55 AM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1727448) This is from today's Wall St Journal story follows: Amid so much other news, a Senate vote last week to allow loaded guns in national parks slipped under the media radar. The vote shows how the political cause of gun control is as dead as a mounted moose. By 67-29, the Senate passed Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn's amendment to let law-abiding visitors carry legal firearms into national parks. This overturns a 1983 federal rule requiring that firearms be kept unloaded and in an inaccessible place such as a trunk of a car. The provision (now part of credit-card legislation) protects Second Amendment rights, and it preserves the right of states to pass firearm laws that apply consistently, even on federal lands. As recently as the 1990s, guns in parks legislation would have provoked a Congressional uproar. But gun control has proven to be a consistent political loser, and last year the Supreme Court cast doubt on state gun bans. No fewer than 27 Democrats voted for Mr. Coburn's amendment, and the ayes included Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is up for re-election in Nevada next year. Congressional liberals are furious, and are threatening to hold up the credit-card bill, much as they have held up Washington, D.C. voting-rights legislation to which Republicans attached gun-owner protections. Holding up both bad bills forever would be fine with us, but in any case it's clear liberals have lost the gun control debate even within their own party.
Are the masters becoming worried over the slaves unrest??? Hmmm...

TomD | 05-18-2009 11:10 AM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1727460) Are the masters becoming worried over the slaves unrest??? Hmmm...
They damned well better be. The gun issue is my trip wire issue and, I think, a lot of other peoples' too. When they ban guns, that's it, I'm pissed beyond any hope of return.

Heimdhal | 05-18-2009 11:15 AM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1727485) They damned well better be. The gun issue is my trip wire issue and, I think, a lot of other peoples' too. When they ban guns, that's it, I'm pissed beyond any hope of return.
I agree. Im not sure if America still has that fighting spirit of resistance left in them anymore or not. Some do, some dont. But to me, as I've said many times on here: with 80 million gun owners in this country, and 1.2 million weapons having been sold EACH MONTH in '09 alone, it would seem to me that theres only so far you can push this large, already VERY pissed off, group of people before something breaks down somewhere, in some way. Maybe the house sat down and figured out that very same thing. Or maybe they know something more nefarious is coming down the pike and they might as well throw some smoke before the hammer falls. I dont know, but I have a feeling well find out in short order.

Abouthadit | 05-18-2009 11:55 AM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism Once more we see the two headed republicrat monster. A safe vote, 67-29, on a good amendment appended to a POS bill to allow the government to get more involved in business transactions, which should be quashed on Constitutional grounds.

Twisted Avatar | 05-18-2009 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1727485) They damned well better be. The gun issue is my trip wire issue and, I think, a lot of other peoples' too. When they ban guns, that's it, I'm pissed beyond any hope of return.
Quoted for truth. Anybody who feels the need to take away firearms from people who legally and lawfully purchased them. Is more than welcome to try.

Goldfinger007 | 05-18-2009 12:05 PM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism Praise the Lord and pass the bullets.

I am me, I am free | 05-18-2009 05:05 PM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism I'd say your optimism is misplaced because it seems many Texas gunowners are as clueless as can be. http://texasguntrader.com/poll/results.php?pollid=1 >98% of all terrorism is state terrorism, and any such state terrorism is as contrived as Emmanuel Goldstein.

917601 | 05-19-2009 12:11 AM
Re: Senate passes gun amendment, some hope for optimism Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1727485) They damned well better be. The gun issue is my trip wire issue and, I think, a lot of other peoples' too. When they ban guns, that's it, I'm pissed beyond any hope of return.
The thought that has been passed onto me by friends, co-workers, etc. is simply this: I am a law abiding citizen, but if a day comes that gun ownership is made illegal, I wake up one day a felon or law breaker for owning guns that I have enjoyed for 30 years-, the "lawmakers" will become hunted as Constitutional lawbreakers. I do have to admit, the Georgia crowd heat up quicker than the Texas crowd on gun ownership.

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