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Glass | 01-21-2009 03:16 AM
CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer I have scoured the net for a review of this pistol. I have found a few comments here and there but no serious review, range or IPSC/USPSA. I was wondering does anyone here own one, has shot one or knows someone who has one? I am currently range shooting however I would like to get into IPSC. I have been attempting to get an SP01 Shadow (Tac) for the last 6 months without success. Now, I am in Australia where handguns are "outlawed" according to 99.99% of Australians. The average joe/josephine 6p nearly faints when you start talking about shooting handguns and even long guns. Most people here think they are outlawed. I even spoke with a former gun owner who handed his in because they were outlawed????? That was after the Port Philip massacre years ago. Ok so it takes a while to get a hand gun down here and since Americans have been buying every gun on the planet, all of the supplies have been heading to the US or staying there. Anyway I have less than 2 weeks to go before I have to start the whole 6+ month saga over again to qualify to apply for a handgun license. That will be another $1000 in range fees plus club fees and months of trying to source a hand gun. So it seems just about the only new handguns available here right now are the Polymer version of the SP01 Shadow. The SP01 Phantom. I would go a HS2000 9mm but this is also the XD9 which again... because of US demand, the factory is now almost 100% XD production. None are coming down under in the near future. Has anyone used one or point me in the direction of some reviews on the SP01 Phantom please? Any help much appreciated. Thanks

The Argent Dragon | 01-21-2009 09:08 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer PICS - PICS - We need some PICS !

Twisted Avatar | 01-21-2009 09:34 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer 2 Attachment(s) ..........................

The Argent Dragon | 01-21-2009 09:46 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Ahhhhhhhhhhh ~ TA comes through again ! :coolbeer: What a fine looking handgun. :wink:

EE_ | 01-21-2009 09:51 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Whadda you gotta know!

Glass | 01-21-2009 05:33 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer yeah sorry peoples. Forgot the pics. Thanks TA. So there you have it, the full metal on the right and the poly on the left. I really want to know how it handles. Specifically like to know what the recoils is like and how quickly the target can be re-acquired. Rough comparison with Glocks or XD would be good. They say the weight bias is to the front helping to keep the recoil down. It has pretty big scollops out of the slide so I wonder how they did that with the weight. Perhaps the weight is in the guide rod? I am probably going to bite the bullet on it bar-ing a better option showing up today. Perhaps I'll start another qualification and maybe have better luck getting what I want next time. At least I'll have something to train/practice with. thanks

Andy9999 | 01-21-2009 06:42 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1523583) yeah sorry peoples. Forgot the pics. Thanks TA. So there you have it, the full metal on the right and the poly on the left. I really want to know how it handles. Specifically like to know what the recoils is like and how quickly the target can be re-acquired. Rough comparison with Glocks or XD would be good. They say the weight bias is to the front helping to keep the recoil down. It has pretty big scollops out of the slide so I wonder how they did that with the weight. Perhaps the weight is in the guide rod? I am probably going to bite the bullet on it bar-ing a better option showing up today. Perhaps I'll start another qualification and maybe have better luck getting what I want next time. At least I'll have something to train/practice with. thanks
I have Glock 19 and CZ 75 SP-01(full metal) I like CZ better -significantly less recoil and it have cock and lock ability,I'm more accurate (obviously) when shooting CZ CZ is bigger than G 19 ,longer handle and bigger frame (longer approx 0.5 in) CZ has 18 bullets magazine ,glock 15, unless you go to high capacity glock would be better for ccw- it is less oz TO CARRY and smaller to conceal. Cz feels better (ergonomics) in my hand Cz has more internal parts both easy TO TAKE APART-FIELD STRIP GLOCK PAID 650 CZ PAID 550 Glock double action only, CZ SA/DA Cz single action - very light trigger,

Andy9999 | 01-21-2009 06:52 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer 1 Attachment(s) Hope this pic will help you

ohioarmedneutrality | 01-21-2009 07:33 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer The CZ looks sooooooooo sweet. Why must you all tempt me?!?!?!

Twisted Avatar | 01-21-2009 08:51 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1523713) Hope this pic will help you
What type of light do you have on that 19 and what did it run you ?? T

Andy9999 | 01-21-2009 09:03 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1523906) What type of light do you have on that 19 and what did it run you ?? T
Streamlight TLR-1 Rail-Mounted Weapon Tactical Flashlight with Keys 69110 bought from http://www.opticsplanet.net/streamli...lashlight.html very good service free shipping it came with 2 batteries,very bright now I see is few $ more,I paid 94 $

Glass | 01-22-2009 12:42 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1523713) Hope this pic will help you
Thanks Andy9999, The Glocks just look the business don't they? I personally don't like how they handle but there is no muss no fuss about them which appeals. Thats why I like the XD/HS2000. It is similar to look at but the bore is a bit higher like the CZ. I think that makes the pointing more natural for me and it is a no nonsense piece of equipment. Still the full metal CZ is one sexy gun, no two ways about it :biggrin: I called the guy and put my name down. He tells me the dealer is at customs now. Could he be picking up the next batch of CZ SP01 Shadows??? Anyway I am going to go see him. Says he'll show me the Phantom (poly). Also got to pick up a copy of Australian Handgun mag. Seems they did a review of it for the current issue. I'll tell you what I think after I've seen it.

AZLiberty | 01-22-2009 02:55 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer The few CZ polymer handguns I have held just made me go "Bleah." They felt thick and blocky like a glock, whereas the aluminum framed ones feel just fine. There are some subtle differences in the thickness and angle of the grip that (to me) make a big difference. Also, I don't like the P-01 action anyway, as it is DA/SA with decocker. I much prefer the original DA/SA with safety/decocker which gave you the option of using it SA only. If this is to be a range gun, I'd get the CZ-75SA. Which is a Single action only version of the CZ-75 with improved trigger.

Glass | 01-23-2009 12:46 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Well I was invited to the dealers to take a look at one of these Phantom handguns. He had a LE version, HiCap 19 and 4" barrel. Our regs are 4.7" barrel and 10 rnd mags. The pictures I have seen don't do it justice. It took me about 10 seconds to decide. It fits very well, natural to point. The weight is deceptively high. It is noticably heavier than the HS9/XD I have been shooting. The grip texture is very noticable, the only thing that stuck in my mind. The quality looks very high. It doesn't even really look like a poly gun when you first look at it. That stuck me, I had to do a double take. The scolloped slide was the only telling thing that it was not the full metal model. So done deal. Maybe 4 or 5 weeks more and I should have it. Now to decide if I should get that skull ring. :biggrin:

Satyr | 01-23-2009 12:50 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Wow, that looks slick! I may have to upgrade/trade in my 75 BD now. (The one pointed at you in my avatar :D)

flying | 01-23-2009 02:41 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer CZ is making some really fine weapons at a nice price point. I just got the 75B SA & the trigger pull is nice. Comes with 2-16 rnd mags, case, cleaning kit & lock $450-ish http://www.cz-usa.com/data/productimg/main033.png

Glass | 01-23-2009 03:51 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by flying (Post 1526634) CZ is making some really fine weapons at a nice price point. I just got the 75B SA & the trigger pull is nice. Comes with 2-16 rnd mags, case, cleaning kit & lock $450-ish http://www.cz-usa.com/data/productimg/main033.png
I wish I could find one of these in full metal down here. So nice, anyway I don't think I will be disappointed. I'd like to see what they look like with a bit of bling. Maybe hard chrome the slide lock, safety, mag release and the barrel or crown. hmmmmm

flying | 01-23-2009 01:39 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1526657) I wish I could find one of these in full metal down here. So nice, anyway I don't think I will be disappointed. I'd like to see what they look like with a bit of bling. Maybe hard chrome the slide lock, safety, mag release and the barrel or crown. hmmmmm
If you want just call Dave or email at Jensen Arms http://www.jensenarms.com/

Glass | 01-23-2009 05:42 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by flying (Post 1527446) If you want just call Dave or email at Jensen Arms http://www.jensenarms.com/
thanks for that Flying, but I'm an Aussie in down under, hence the difficulty sourcing handguns. I was just lamenting it would be good to be able to walk into a store and have the choices you guys have. Never mind though. I am almost there. Then it will be :553: at the range

flying | 01-23-2009 10:15 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1527948) thanks for that Flying, but I'm an Aussie in down under, hence the difficulty sourcing handguns. I was just lamenting it would be good to be able to walk into a store and have the choices you guys have. Never mind though. I am almost there. Then it will be :553: at the range
Ah I see! Ok well good luck & I am in the same boat. I am not in the continental US I live on an Island & have to order everything too. Have Fun!

flying | 01-24-2009 04:17 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Hey Glass....... I was just curious but..... You can have guns in Australia? I thought I read that they all had to turn them in? Good on you if your back in the saddle. Sorry I am not up on all the news but interested.

Glass | 01-24-2009 04:34 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by flying (Post 1528751) Hey Glass....... I was just curious but..... You can have guns in Australia? I thought I read that they all had to turn them in? Good on you if your back in the saddle. Sorry I am not up on all the news but interested.
Yes we can flying but it is based on 2 options. Sports Shooting or vermin control on a rural property. Self defense is not an option here. So you can sport shoot just about any discipline but you cannot have semi-auto rifles any longer. You can use most rifle calibres and shot gun guages. Handguns, revolver or self loading are strictly sport shooting class and you have to be sponsored by a range. Vermin etc is where you either are a rural property owner or you have written authority by a land owner which you can use to get a license for shotgun or rifle. This is usually an open license with little restriction on quantity of long guns or calibre. It does limit the type of action to bolt. I used to shoot as teen with semi auto. Rabbits and foxes. The odd roo. Occasionally there would be wild dogs. Then situations changed and I lived the next 20+ years in the city. I always liked shooting but never went back to it. There is very little information here about shooting. Unless you are in the club, you hear squat about it. So I started with a handgun license before I knew the range was handgun and .22 only. Should have known. But anyway I want to get into IPSC and also a class called field rifle, which mostly replicates the kind of vermin stuff I used to do. What about you? Self Def or Comp shooter?

MOD1 | 01-24-2009 01:04 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Don't have a polymer pistol, but I found (what I think) is an interesting insight in the manufacture of other CZ pistol products. Enjoy. http://www.rustyhubbard.com/tour.html Take care, Mod1

flying | 01-24-2009 01:34 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1528756) Yes we can flying but it is based on 2 options. Sports Shooting or vermin control on a rural property. Self defense is not an option here. So you can sport shoot just about any discipline but you cannot have semi-auto rifles any longer. You can use most rifle calibres and shot gun guages. Handguns, revolver or self loading are strictly sport shooting class and you have to be sponsored by a range. Vermin etc is where you either are a rural property owner or you have written authority by a land owner which you can use to get a license for shotgun or rifle. This is usually an open license with little restriction on quantity of long guns or calibre. It does limit the type of action to bolt. I used to shoot as teen with semi auto. Rabbits and foxes. The odd roo. Occasionally there would be wild dogs. Then situations changed and I lived the next 20+ years in the city. I always liked shooting but never went back to it. There is very little information here about shooting. Unless you are in the club, you hear squat about it. So I started with a handgun license before I knew the range was handgun and .22 only. Should have known. But anyway I want to get into IPSC and also a class called field rifle, which mostly replicates the kind of vermin stuff I used to do. What about you? Self Def or Comp shooter?
Hey Glass thanks for the update. That is really tough but glad to hear your getting back to it & enjoy it. For myself it is both. I shot IPSIC & High Powered rifles for years. Also loved reloading. Then took a few years off due to family life & work you know. Suddenly got the bug again & started restocking many things I let go over the years. I plan to get back into comp shooting too but really what got me restarted was thinking about this whole economical crisis. I think you will like your CZ if you go that route as I am pretty impressed with the quality. But if you go Springfield Im sure you will be happy too. I have read many good things about that XD & I have owned Springfield 1911's before. Have Fun!

Glass | 02-19-2009 08:47 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer ok well quick update. The gun is now here in my state. It is at the dealers while I do my paperwork. I discovered that if I have the gun transfered to the range where I shoot while my paperwork is being done I can use it while waiting for the paperwork to go through. Well that sounds like an opportunity I have to take so am looking into it. Only problem is that my paperwork probably has the Dealer license # for the company I bought it from, not the Dealer license for the range where I go. So I might need to redo the paperwork. Seeing as its 2 weeks in and it is likely to take another 4 - 5 weeks before my "cooling off" period even begins I think it might be worth wearing the 2 weeks and transfering the gun and submitting again. I am checking with SSAA to see if I can modify the paperwork in mid flight. We shall see.

ruprick | 02-19-2009 09:31 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer I've been look at the entire CZ line of pistols.....I like the classic look of the CZ-75B and even better, the CZ85 Combat....which is really just the 75 with adj. sights and some ambidex controls. The CZ-85 Combat will have to be one of my next purchases. I do not really care for the lines of the frame and barrel forward of the trigger on the CZ-75 P01 Phantom - it is too boxy and square on the muzzle ..... I feel a classic CZ should have that front end look like the 75B.....they have that sculptured Browning HiPower front end look to be the classic CZ. Here is a link to the CZ-85 Combat: http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=42 That is my favorite CZ.

Glass | 02-19-2009 10:22 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer :banana::yippee::565::elefant: ok Gun is to be transfered tomorrow. Hoping I can get down there to try it out on Sunday, however I have a family birthday on Sunday so I might have to hangout a few more days. As for the 75 vs Phantom, I really would have prefered a full metal like the Shadow or even a 75B. I just could not locate one and had missed out on 2 batches that were imported. My time to get paperwork in was almost expired so I had to act. All of the images I had seen left me less than impressed. How ever once I was able to get my hands on one I had a different opinion. I think even the scalloped slide looks not bad. Anyway...... hope to get some rounds through it soon. I'll take a few pics and a bit of a range report when I'm done. As Big Kev used to say "I'm Excited!" :23_30_104:

ruprick | 02-19-2009 10:35 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Glass - understand you forced circumstances....had to act quickly and get what you could. Was not trying to be critical of your purchase....Good luck and enjoy!

Glass | 02-19-2009 10:51 PM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1581904) Glass - understand you forced circumstances....had to act quickly and get what you could. Was not trying to be critical of your purchase....Good luck and enjoy!
no problems there.... just having a grizzle.... :biggrin:

Glass | 04-05-2009 08:03 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer 2 Attachment(s) Ok well I finally go my hands on my Phantom. I still have not got the license paper work sorted but the range lets me play in the mean time. Because I am lazy, I am just going to repost an email I sent family about today's adventure. So please excuse the beginers explanations of whats what. Quote:
Well I haven't been able to get to the range in the last 3 or 4 weeks. After the dealer forgot to drop it over there the first time, he remembered this time. So its been sitting there for about 3 weeks. I was able to take it onto the range today and have a shoot. It was covered in oil like you wouldn't believe. I gave it a clean as best I could and got stuck in. I took a couple photos with the phone. Not so great but there was nothing to rest it against and I wasn't sure I was really allowed to take any photos in there. The first thing was that it was not chained up. All of the handguns I have used in there have been chained from the left and right and underneath. No chains. Now I can tell you the chains both add weight and some measure of stability. So today was also my first time using a handgun that was not tethered. I'm not very steady I can tell you. Attachment 67348 Here is an overhead shot. The slide it locked back. The slide is the top part of the gun, it is what moves back and forth with each shot and pushes another round into the chamber. This is how it would normally look after have you emptied the mag. You can see the mag on the bottom left. Attachment 67349 This is obviously me holding the gun, slide open again. You can see just above my thumbnail there is a slightly angled thing, this is the slide lock. It can be activated manually or it automatically springs up when the mag is empty to lock the slide back. When the slide is locked back the breech or hole into the firing chamber is open so you can see if there is anything, bullet in the breech. The breech is actually on the right hand side. You can see the slight scollop for the breech in the above pic. The breech is where the empty cases are ejected.... remember the 22 rifle? To the right and above my thumb knuckle is the safety. The circle on a stick above my index finger is the hammer. You can see it is ready to fire from this position. The slide is back though so until that it released the firearm won't go bang. I was very happy with how it felt, although it does feel light. Its a polymer gun, so only the top part (slide) is metal, and the firing bits. The handle or receiver is plastic. I was NOT happy with the way it shot. I was low, very low and infact it was the worst I have ever shot by a massive margin. I called in one of the range marshalls and asked them if they could put the last 5 rounds through it and tell me what they thought. They confirmed it was low. So I said I could not understand that as these guns are renowned for being factory tested and confirmed accurate before they ship them. He agreed. Then he said to me, I'll tell you what.... and he was going to give me 5 rounds from his gun to run through mine but he thought twice, because he buys his own rounds, not the ones they sell at the range, which I had bought. He buys some pricey ones I think. He said he believed the rounds they sell at the range (no brand) are under powered and he said that CZ's liked more power. So he gave me 5 range rounds to run through his gun and he said I bet you will shoot low on those as well. Anyway He has the full metal version of my gun, which I tried for 6 months to get. It was actually very nice. Not heavy at all which surprised me because many people said it was an effort sometimes. I thought it was excellent. I'm going to have to get one. Anyhow, sure enough I shot low just like with my gun. Its a bit of a worry because this was only over 10 metres. I was holding over by about 5 or 6 inches (aiming high) and it was still not enough to get near the bullseye. Anyway proves the point. So I will have to use different ammo or make my own. He said he had got all the gear to reload, just never bothered, although I have been pretty keen from the beginning to do my own reloads. So there you have it. First time on the range with my new gun. Very happy despite the low powered bullets. The trigger was pretty good to me. Some say its a bit stiff out of the box. Perhaps but I'll put a couple hundred through it and see how it loosens up before I decide if it is stiff. Now all I have to do is get this license thing sorted out. I can't seem to make contact with the licensing officer. Not sure what is going on there. Going to try early tomorrow.
all in all though :565::36_1_34::5_1_120::10_1_20:

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Andy9999 | 04-05-2009 10:03 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer yesterday I put 50 $ deposit for used CZ 75 B in very good shape,total asking price will be 350,have to get purchase permit since CCW didn't arrive yet

Glass | 05-27-2009 10:16 AM
Re: CZ SP01 Phantom 9mm - polymer Well the day finally came. If you start at the begining of this thread you can get an idea of how long it takes here in Oz to get a license sorted out. So anyway I picked up the gun yesterday and brought it home. Still a lot of oil on it so I cleaned it down a bit. Took a few photos. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...SC00227_sm.jpg New in box....well nearly http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...SC00229_sm.jpg hammer down http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...SC00231_sm.jpg cocked http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...SC00232_sm.jpg decocked http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...SC00235_sm.jpg decocker, slide lock etc http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...SC00234_sm.jpg oh yeah? on the downside, I bought 2 extra mags when I ordered this and those have gone missing. Not calling it theft just yet but the guns been at the range for the last couple months so there has been plenty of chances. Also the gun was transfered there, so I have the range saying ask the dealer and the dealer saying he transfered them there. At a cost of $75 a piece I'm a bit annoyed. Still its not going to get in the way of some fun. Long weekend this weekend so I might be spending a bit of lead.

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