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Sclorch | 01-30-2009 12:53 AM
So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: I know very little about guns. I am planning on picking up a rifle tomorrow. I have two choices essentially. Here's what they had (sorry for the bad descriptions, like I said I'm a huge noob) Norinco SKS with some sort of black composite stock ($329.00 used conscription) Saiga 7.62 (349.00 used with no magazine conscription) These seem pretty freakin expensive to me but this is all they got. Maybe the SKS has some more work done on it that warrants the extra money but I dunno. I have 411$ total to buy on my first rifle. Or should I just order one on the internets? What would you buy? I want to get this bought ASAP because I think the next 'terrorist' attack is coming very shortly.

Rebel Yarr | 01-30-2009 12:59 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Consignment? Not bad deals in this market TBH.

Big_Rob | 01-30-2009 01:00 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: I have a Norinco SKS and I think the world of it. Of course I only paid 200 for mine back in the day. But trust me its like a bullet hose. Does it have the Monte Carlo stock on it?

Sclorch | 01-30-2009 01:02 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Apparently consignment means that the guns are actually owned by a third party and that the gunshop is just doing the service of selling them for the third party. (This is what my friend said, I don't know if he knows what he's talking about though)

Sclorch | 01-30-2009 01:03 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1539357) I have a Norinco SKS and I think the world of it. Of course I only paid 200 for mine back in the day. But trust me its like a bullet hose. Does it have the Monte Carlo stock on it?
I pulled up a pic of the monte carlo stock and it sure looks like it. (I was sort of leaning too the SKS as well but damn it is pricey)

FireMattMillen | 01-30-2009 01:42 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: I know this is beating a dead horse... but just get a shotgun with combo barrels. I have the Remington 870, but the Mossberg 500 is basically the same. That's too much for an SKS. If you don't already have a shotgun, you should get one. If you spend $400 on a shotgun with a rifled barrel - you can do anything you want. Hunting, self-defense, it's pretty much covered.

Eulenspiegel | 01-30-2009 02:06 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: The Saiga can be converted to accept AK magazines. You may need to spend some $$ buying parts to do this. But it'd be about as close to an authentic AK-47 as you're going to get. I love my Norinco SKS but not sure I'd pay $300+ for one.

bfnelson | 01-30-2009 02:22 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: I'd get the Saiga 7.62x39 and convert it to an AK-47 or at least add a bullet guide to take AK mags. Then go here - www.classicarms.us and get some mags. Then read this http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/index.htm parts www.dinzagarms.com www.k-var.com If you want the minimum for a functioning rifle, you can go to dinzag and buy the bulletguide kit so you can use the high cap mags. It's 28 bucks or so so that would run you 400 total for a high cap rifle. Maybe you can find a gunsmith to do it for you if you don't want to do it. However if you really want to do some work you can convert it to a fully functional AK and add the bayonet lug, cleaning rod, pistol grip, folding stock, etc. Cost about 700-800 total. You have to buy the parts now though because they are going fast and there is some work involved. I just wouldn't want to bother with a rifle that holds less than 20 rounds, you don't need a gun in 7.62x39 to shoot a burglar; whoever your facing probably doesn't arm up at antique shows. You want something with reasonable firepower but if I had to choose between a 10 round SKS and a 10 round Saiga I'd get the Saiga, they are very accurate as rifles in this caliber go.

dogear | 01-30-2009 02:38 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Saiga.....but do some research on the internet. You might find a better deal but at least you'll be in a better position to make a decision and negotiate.

buff01 | 01-30-2009 02:38 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Get the saiga and use it as-is. No need to modify unless you really want the AK look. Buy as many magazines as you can find.

Lars Ragnarsson | 01-30-2009 02:56 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Considering the post-election inflation, that's not a bad price on the Saiga. Keep in mind, though, that you'll have to score mags for it, and 30 rd Saiga mags will run you around $45 (maybe more nowadays). That's if you can find them.

angryhippy | 01-30-2009 03:00 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Id grab the Saiga, or shop around locally and internet gun sites.

Sclorch | 01-30-2009 03:21 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Cool thanks everyone. Saiga it is!

angryhippy | 01-30-2009 03:44 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Another Saiga link http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=4&f=80

CyberGold | 01-30-2009 07:23 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Deal em down at least $50 for the missing mag or get them to throw in one.

GoldWampum | 01-30-2009 09:08 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1539357) I have a Norinco SKS and I think the world of it. Of course I only paid 200 for mine back in the day. But trust me its like a bullet hose. Does it have the Monte Carlo stock on it?
I have one too. My favorite rifle. Rugged and dependable. Simple. Shoots nice.

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 09:19 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1539478) Considering the post-election inflation, that's not a bad price on the Saiga. Keep in mind, though, that you'll have to score mags for it, and 30 rd Saiga mags will run you around $45 (maybe more nowadays). That's if you can find them.
You can get 1 for 22 or 3 for 60 right here........ load up while you can :ok: http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=453884

bfnelson | 01-30-2009 09:25 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1539478) Considering the post-election inflation, that's not a bad price on the Saiga. Keep in mind, though, that you'll have to score mags for it, and 30 rd Saiga mags will run you around $45 (maybe more nowadays). That's if you can find them.
The bullet guide kit is only $30, then you can use the AK mags.

SilverCity | 01-30-2009 10:57 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Go for the Saiga. That's a decent price even used. 30 round Surefire mags are available from Mississippi Auto Arms for $37.99 each and they ship fast.

Twisted Avatar | 01-30-2009 11:26 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: New Sagias are going for 599 and that is IF you can find them.......and once Eric Holder starts to make his move on AWB P2 you can expect that number to hit the low four digits. T

<SLV> | 01-30-2009 11:47 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Mags are too expensive on the Saiga. Also, the AK-47 action on a monte-carlo is not ergonomic -- it requires the forward hand to reach to be in front of the magazine. Before Obama Chinese SKSs were going for $300 -- that one is NOT a bad price (chrome-lined barrel). If it has a monte-carlo synthetic stock it might be a rarer import or a modified one. Was the barrel 16" or 20"? Was the bolt carrier brushed steel or parkerized? Whose import stamp was on it? Was the barrel threaded or pinned? Answer the above questions correctly and it is a STEAL of a deal.

Heimdhal | 01-30-2009 11:53 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: If you dont have a good shotgun yet, get one of them first. Otherwise, go with the saiga, its value will increase faster, especialy if the AWB really start to get steam.

Abouthadit | 01-30-2009 12:44 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Sclorch (Post 1539488) Cool thanks everyone. Saiga it is!
also available in 308. good luck

AOW | 01-30-2009 01:13 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: I recently paid too much for a Norinco SKS but I'm happy with the added distributor of 7.62x39 so I'm not complaining. Kinda like pm's now, the price is what it is.

Sclorch | 01-30-2009 02:19 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1539798) You can get 1 for 22 or 3 for 60 right here........ load up while you can :ok: http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=453884
Wow awesome deal! thanks ta

Sclorch | 01-30-2009 02:25 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Alright I am now the proud owner of a saiga 7.62 my first rifle. I went to Green Mountain guns here in Denver. I accidentally filled out some of the paperwork wrong. One of the questions started with "Are you an illegal resident" or something like that so I just skipped ahead and checked "no." The guy acted like a pretty bid douche about it. I was pretty pissed and was gonna right a bunch of really negative reviews and post them all over the internet but he chilled out and acted decent when I went back in to pick it up after I passed the background check. So whatever I guess. Grand total was 409.00 for Saiga and 1 box of 357 for my revolver. I probably payed too much but I am happy :)

Twisted Avatar | 02-02-2009 08:51 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: You didnt pay too much.......... This time next year people will tell you that you are a genius to your face because you had such forsight. If you look at AWB P2 Sagia is number 4 on that list....... you are owner of one of the most sought after EBR. Now if the budget allows what you want to have is "dubble redundency" there is old a saying "two is one and one is none" if, heaven forbid,you have a problem you have a backup to press into service or you can strip down for parts (firing pin, stocks, gas piston etc) It is just good policy because Murphy has a way of showing up as that worse possible time.:bear_w00t: Either way welcome to "The Club" and congrats :ok: T

Doge | 02-02-2009 09:04 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Sclorch, you didn't over pay at all. You got a good deal on the Saiga. I would get a couple of the factory mags because they work great, a few Pro Mags, and a few Surefire.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 03-17-2009 09:17 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Damn, I am jealous at the rifles you guys get to own in the "fun" states.

Goldfinger | 03-17-2009 09:56 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by Sclorch (Post 1540415) Alright I am now the proud owner of a saiga 7.62 my first rifle. I went to Green Mountain guns here in Denver. I accidentally filled out some of the paperwork wrong. One of the questions started with "Are you an illegal resident" or something like that so I just skipped ahead and checked "no." The guy acted like a pretty bid douche about it. I was pretty pissed and was gonna right a bunch of really negative reviews and post them all over the internet but he chilled out and acted decent when I went back in to pick it up after I passed the background check. So whatever I guess. Grand total was 409.00 for Saiga and 1 box of 357 for my revolver. I probably payed too much but I am happy :)
WHAT...no pics?

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mick silver | 03-17-2009 11:33 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: what about ammo for those 762=39 their getting harder to get your hands on , the gun shop i go to ken told me he got a boat load of guns coming in an no ammo for them , ar15 an ak47, most of they guns are sold already

<SLV> | 03-18-2009 11:23 AM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian (Post 1631170) Damn, I am jealous at the rifles you guys get to own in the "fun" states.
You don't get to choose where you live?

wallew | 03-18-2009 12:12 PM
Re: So walked into a gun shop today and these are my choices: sclorch. And to think you could have had SLV's SKS that had ALL the tricks done for near that price. But you paid what I would call 'fair money' in today's firearms market. Now, having said that, this coming weekend is the Tanner Gun Show over at the Merchandise Mart (I-25 & 58th ave). You can find almost anything you want there. I'm supposed to be going on Saturday. We will see, as I've got a buddy coming down from Cheyenne to compare some prices on SKS vs Ruger Ranch Rifle. There was a guy selling SKS's between $250 - $300 but that was a couple of months ago. Times change. The prices have been rising exponentially. Here in Colorado, the CBI has done more background checks for CCW in the first three months of 2008 (LAST YEAR) than they did the whole year of 2007. And I'd be willing to bet money they did WAY more than that since November 2008. I've heard that CBI has been doing roughly 1000 background checks a day for firearms sales for the past four months. Though things have slowed down somewhat. We in the gun culture seem to have bought up most of what was for sale and the manufaturers are running two or three shifts and STILL can't keep up with orders/backorders. But again, you paid fair money. Was it more than a year or two ago? Yes it was. And Green Mountain Guns has been around a LONG time. They are good people who are very fair to their customers. A little 'hidden' back in their corner of the shopping center they are in, but definitely a good store with fair prices.

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