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Uncle Mike | 10-15-2008 01:12 PM
A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Hi,anyone that needs a rifle should check out www.thecmp.org They have M1 Garands and M1 Carbines starting at $500.It's easier than years ago as the rules have been loosened up in my opinion.If your are a veteran you no longer have to shoot a match to qualify.They also have ammunition.Once you qualify then can legally send the rifles to your home.The Garands might be 50 years old but they are good shooters.Regards,Mike

Portmanteau | 10-15-2008 03:14 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Isn't "self-defense rifle" an oxymoron? I've no issues with rifles, but they are offensive weapons - and yes, I understand sometimes the best defense is a good offense. But true "self-defense" firearms are shotguns, and in many scenarios, pistols/revolvers.

pot_dragon | 10-15-2008 03:21 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mike (Post 1359693) Hi,anyone that needs a rifle should check out www.thecmp.org They have M1 Garands and M1 Carbines starting at $500.It's easier than years ago as the rules have been loosened up in my opinion.If your are a veteran you no longer have to shoot a match to qualify.They also have ammunition.Once you qualify then can legally send the rifles to your home.The Garands might be 50 years old but they are good shooters.Regards,Mike
great rilfes but you can get Saiga 7.62s (basically an import AK) for about 300...

mkinla | 10-15-2008 03:45 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Dunno if this helps but the French seem to use it a lot.....:cry1: http://www.worldpeace.no/filer/White-Flag.jpg

Ag_man | 10-15-2008 04:38 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 1360075) Dunno if this helps but the French seem to use it a lot.....:cry1: http://www.worldpeace.no/filer/White-Flag.jpg
That post reminded me if the OP is looking for a good deal on a rifle, I hear the French still have a lot of surplus rifles from WW2, never fired, dropped once.

SilverCity | 10-15-2008 04:53 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 I thought that was the Italian Carcano army issue cleaning patch...

Martian_Time_slip | 10-15-2008 04:59 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 All the sniper models are sold out. Hmmm....

CyberGold | 10-16-2008 09:36 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 A rifle IS a defensive weapon - its just from 500 meters is all :coolbeer:

sluggo | 10-16-2008 10:19 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 The Appleseed Project is another really cool way to score an M1. http://www.appleseedinfo.org/index.htm

buff01 | 10-16-2008 11:29 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Saiga 7.62 ($300) + 1000rds of ammo ($200) = $500

Lt Dan | 10-17-2008 07:04 AM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Like those Garand's so much I own 3 and yes they all shoot great. Best MBR ever created, IMO.

buff01 | 10-18-2008 01:36 AM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan (Post 1364190) Like those Garand's so much I own 3 and yes they all shoot great. Best MBR ever created, IMO.
They sure are great but put ten guys with garands up against ten guys with AKs with 30rd magazines and way more ammo, and it wouldn't be much of a fight.

Lackluster | 10-18-2008 06:56 AM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 1365755) They sure are great but put ten guys with garands up against ten guys with AKs with 30rd magazines and way more ammo, and it wouldn't be much of a fight.
Why would the AK guys need all the extra ammo? :bull-smile:

Silver Spoon | 10-18-2008 07:19 AM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 LOL at the jokes about the French. Here's the last conflict they fled.

Lt Dan | 10-18-2008 07:36 AM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Lackluster (Post 1365875) Why would the AK guys need all the extra ammo? :bull-smile:
Yup! Be like 10 one shot kills.

Lackluster | 10-18-2008 08:02 AM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan (Post 1365881) Yup! Be like 10 one shot kills.
I was thinking about relative accuracy and range of both rifles. Thank you OP, I am considering getting one of these rifles. I almost think I should sell my M1A, and get two of them.

Lt Dan | 10-18-2008 12:30 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 I've no intent to knock anyone for their choice of say an AK style over the M1 Garand, but this thread isn't about AK's. AK's do have their place, not in my gun safe, but, they are an alternative. That I also own an M1A is also proof in how much I trust the M1 Garand. Ammo from the CMP for .30-06 is more available and reliable (presently) than it is for the M1A from any source known to me for the price. Up until I had actually shot an M1 I had no idea how accurate they were. I was trained, of course, on the M16, but just found the M1, (a bit of history), to be a very reasonable MBR for me to own.

buff01 | 10-18-2008 01:47 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan (Post 1366118) I've no intent to knock anyone for their choice of say an AK style over the M1 Garand, but this thread isn't about AK's. AK's do have their place, not in my gun safe, but, they are an alternative. That I also own an M1A is also proof in how much I trust the M1 Garand. Ammo from the CMP for .30-06 is more available and reliable (presently) than it is for the M1A from any source known to me for the price. Up until I had actually shot an M1 I had no idea how accurate they were. I was trained, of course, on the M16, but just found the M1, (a bit of history), to be a very reasonable MBR for me to own.
I was not meaning to bash your choice either.... obviously the Garand is a quality weapon. But here are the reasons for my above post: 1. 99.9% of people out there aren't going to be accurate enough to need anything more than 7.62x39 2. My cousin's springfield M1A broke after about 100 rounds and had to be sent back to the manufacturer to be fixed 3. AKs are popular in remote areas with harsh conditions and with people who aren't trained soldiers beacuse they do well in those conditions Yes I am biased, but I do like the philosophy of being able to put a LOT of fire downrange, as well as being able to buy very cheap ammo. Anyways, don't mean to threadjack this one, sorry.

Twisted Avatar | 10-18-2008 03:02 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 1363692) Saiga 7.62 ($300) + 1000rds of ammo ($200) = $500
What other rifles fire the 7.62 round??? There is plentiful ammo and I want to have at least one more. T

RaccoonRiverRadical | 10-18-2008 03:16 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 1360223) That post reminded me if the OP is looking for a good deal on a rifle, I hear the French still have a lot of surplus rifles from WW2, never fired, dropped once.
Yes, The French were negligent in not dieing en masse against Germany so Arabs could settle France.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 10-18-2008 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1366323) http://www.foxnews.com/images/197259...nce_riots2.jpg
Nothing like Frogs for ingratitude.

buff01 | 10-18-2008 04:37 PM
Re: A Good Self Defense Rifle for $500 Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1366280) What other rifles fire the 7.62 round??? There is plentiful ammo and I want to have at least one more. T
TA-- pick up a couple of SKS rifles, they use the same 7.62x39 round. They have a 10 round internal magazine which you load with stripper clips. Don't bother with the collectible ones, just find ones in good condition. They are the predecessor to the AK, and are very reliable. They are still really cheap, and are all military surplus. Yugoslavian, Chinese, and Russian seem to be the most common ones and they're all good guns. You will find some really good deals on them in the "shotgun news" magazine. There are also spare parts and mods galore. I like shooting mine, it is a very rugged gun. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/sks_load.jpg http://www.davidrodgers.com/cms/wp-c...8/02/sks56.jpg

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