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Squirrel Bait | 03-10-2009 11:26 AM
Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Does anybody have some statistics on just how many guns have really been sold; and how much ammo since that fateful day in November. We all know it's a lot, but I can't find anything printed. I'm sure the FBI and BATF know, or at least think they do, but they're not sharing. s

Rebel Yarr | 03-10-2009 11:35 AM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Some video floating around here claimed something like 100 million guns and 1 billion in rounds.

meatman | 03-10-2009 12:40 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? 1.5 million guns 1 billion rds a month

TLM | 03-10-2009 01:11 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Since ammo can't be kept "in stock", I guess what is sold has been the total of the manufacturing capacity, maybe a little less because of supply chain constraints.

wallew | 03-10-2009 01:15 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? I believe you mean this video: You Tube
You Tube

AuH2O64 | 03-10-2009 02:02 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1617220) Does anybody have some statistics on just how many guns have really been sold; and how much ammo since that fateful day in November. We all know it's a lot, but I can't find anything printed. I'm sure the FBI and BATF know, or at least think they do, but they're not sharing. s
There are no readily-available numbers for ammo sales, but there is one good indicator for gun sales: the number of NICS background checks conducted by the FBI. Each background check does not necessarily translate into an actual gun transfer; some sales may not go through after the background check, and I believe some people may be purchasing multiple firearms on the same background check. But it's still a good rough indicator of volume --- and how that volume has changed over time. The raw numbers for the last ten years are available from the FBI. For the last four months, here are the totals: Nov-08: 1,529,635 Dec-08: 1,523,426 Jan-09: 1,213,885 Feb-09: 1,259,078 My first question was "Compared to what?" Turns out that November and December were 47% and 46% higher, respectively, than the next-highest month last year (March, 2008). January (+17%) and February (+21%) of 2009 were also considerably higher than last March. But the typical sales reporting compares a month's results to the same month one year previously. Here are each month's percentage increases compared to that same month the year before: Nov-08: +41.6% Dec-08: +23.8% Jan-09: +28.8% Feb-09: +23.3%

MOD1 | 03-10-2009 02:53 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? AuH2O64, Very telling. Info appreciated. Take care, Mod1

Squirrel Bait | 03-10-2009 03:47 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Interesting chart. That's what I was looking for. Thanks s

TLM | 03-10-2009 04:43 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Very interesting table. ------------------------------------------------------ *You can see the Y2K spike in the last few months of 1999. *You can see the Sept 11th spike in the last few months of 2001. *You can see the "Oh shit, Obama just got elected spike" in the end of 2008 and extending to date.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 03-10-2009 05:55 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? November 2008: 1,529,635 December 2008: 1,523,426 January 2009: 1,213,885 Jan 08-Dec08: 12,709,023 [Source: Some youtube video that quotes federals] I'd love to see some Ammo tables

Justabear | 03-10-2009 06:25 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? My local FFL dealer, recently ordered 100K inventory, received 15K. He stated supplies of anything high demand (AR's, GLOCK 19, etc) is next to impossible to get, he said his business was through the roof on sales.

maximumrebel1 | 03-10-2009 09:21 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Quote:
Originally Posted by Justabear (Post 1617896) My local FFL dealer, recently ordered 100K inventory, received 15K. He stated supplies of anything high demand (AR's, GLOCK 19, etc) is next to impossible to get, he said his business was through the roof on sales.
I have heard the same thing from many local shops however there are a couple (one in particular) where I got my Saiga 12, that is stocked to the brim with pistols of all kinds, AR's, AK's (WASR-10's) tactical shotguns etc, the prices are decent for the times but they always seem to keep stuff in stock which is surprising.

Twisted Avatar | 03-10-2009 09:44 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Quote:
Originally Posted by maximumrebel1 (Post 1618217) I have heard the same thing from many local shops however there are a couple (one in particular) where I got my Saiga 12, that is stocked to the brim with pistols of all kinds, AR's, AK's (WASR-10's) tactical shotguns etc, the prices are decent for the times but they always seem to keep stuff in stock which is surprising.
He has got a good business model set in place. I remeber when I was looking for Glocks nobody on the net had them and the back order was 5-7 months and climbing. Found on ONE PLACE on Gunbroker that had them stacked from the floor to ceiling (LITERALLY) They have an excellent business model and they are the first to be suppiled rather than all the Jonny come Latelys'. T

Twisted Avatar | 03-10-2009 09:48 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Quote:
Originally Posted by AuH2O64 (Post 1617499) There are no readily-available numbers for ammo sales, but there is one good indicator for gun sales: the number of NICS background checks conducted by the FBI. Each background check does not necessarily translate into an actual gun transfer; some sales may not go through after the background check, and I believe some people may be purchasing multiple firearms on the same background check. But it's still a good rough indicator of volume --- and how that volume has changed over time. The raw numbers for the last ten years are available from the FBI. For the last four months, here are the totals:
Dam you didnt lie on that .........one place I saw with my own two eyes a lady whip out her plastic and pick up 10 Glocks in one swoop.......she couldnt even carry them out (needed the staff to help) I was talking with the dude after wards and I think the lady dropped almost 4K between the guns and bullets. He said this is absolutley surreal. I agreed. T

Usury | 03-10-2009 10:11 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? I think this alone is pretty telling.... http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM631-5.html :puke:

BeeYourself | 03-10-2009 11:13 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? '92 .308 Radway Green now .70/round. I have seen it for .80/ Some places still have ammo and arms, but not walmart and not hardly any surplus at all or at least not cheap. All good deals are gone unless you want shady things early.

maximumrebel1 | 03-11-2009 07:21 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1618372) Yeah, that they are rip off artists. Local academy has wolf 20 packs steel case for 7.60 a box. they had several hundred when I was there begging for 223.
CTD is running a business not a charity, I'm surprised more places didn't/haven't jacked up the prices 4 fold to curb demand. It looks like they would rather work 12+ plus hour days 7 days a week to fill orders.

Usury | 03-11-2009 09:43 PM
Re: Guns/Ammo sold since 11-4-08????????? Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1618372) Yeah, that they are rip off artists. Local academy has wolf 20 packs steel case for 7.60 a box. they had several hundred when I was there begging for 223.
By your logic Academy would be rip-off artists too. 6 months ago you could get it for a quarter of that price. Hell it hasn't been that long ago when you could get it for $2/box. Good thing I stacked wide and deep back then. :s1::emotions16:

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