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Andy9999 | 03-25-2009 04:24 PM
Just visited gun store??? They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???

Early Cuyler | 03-25-2009 04:28 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? A saiga for 1k? Holy cow. I think that is one of the seven signs of the apocalypse. You can find a better price! Is it already converted to pistol grip or something?

aybesee123 | 03-25-2009 04:29 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Seems high to me, this is what they go for in my part: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ighlight=saiga http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ighlight=saiga http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ighlight=saiga

AOW | 03-25-2009 04:30 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? That's a lot of money for that rifle. Have you considered a shotgun or common hunting rifle for home defense?

Tome | 03-25-2009 04:30 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645595) They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???
Good self-control avoiding panic buying and thinking on it. For "home defense" I would buy a shotgun not battle rifle. A lot cheaper too. :smile:

Abouthadit | 03-25-2009 04:31 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? 1035 is way too much. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=125623880

Early Cuyler | 03-25-2009 04:31 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? You can find a reasonable FFL and have 2 romaks for nearly the same price. http://www.classicarms.us/ http://www.classicarms.us/images/ROM-AKBOX.jpg

Andy9999 | 03-25-2009 04:38 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? checked the other store =1000$ they all are the same ,don't know much about that stuff , maybe in 6-10 months prices go down because panic will subside The guy ,-sales person know a lot about guns,but I he sound like fear mongering person,he said gun will be gone tomorrow, he said he has 20000 rounds at home,before he said he has 40 pistols well I leave at this he sound like TA no pun intended

Andy9999 | 03-25-2009 04:40 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? They also had AR 15 for approx 1100

CrufflerJJ | 03-25-2009 04:50 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645621) maybe in 6-10 months prices go down because panic will subside The guy ,-sales person know a lot about guns,but I he sound like fear mongering person,he said gun will be gone tomorrow, he said he has 20000 rounds at home,before he said he has 40 pistols
DO NOT count on prices dropping in 6-10 months. If you want one, get it now. As others have suggested, 1K sounds like a lot for a Saiga. AR rifles may run $700-$1100, so that one may not be horribly overpriced. The Saiga may very well be gone tomorrow, but that's OK. Find a local transfer FFL dealer for you (gunbroker.com has them, listed on their site). They should xfer the weapon for $25-$45. Buy a reasonably priced AK clone off Gunbroker or J&G Sales or Classic Arms, have it sent to your xfer dealer. By the way, what's so wrong about having 20K rounds of ammo. Or 40 pistols? That sounds like a good start to me!:tongue_ma:

aybesee123 | 03-25-2009 04:52 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? For home defense at 1k consider this: Benelli M2 You Tube
You Tube

Twisted Avatar | 03-25-2009 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645621) checked the other store =1000$ they all are the same ,don't know much about that stuff , maybe in 6-10 months prices go down because panic will subside The guy ,-sales person know a lot about guns,but I he sound like fear mongering person,he said gun will be gone tomorrow, he said he has 20000 rounds at home,before he said he has 40 pistols well I leave at this he sound like TA no pun intended
When I see people Like that I want to tell them......... 1k for a sagia??? Well if you say so thats a dam fine deal!!! But let me sweeten the pie I will pay you 1500 if you Let me run home across town to get the money and MEET YOU AROUND THE BACK OF THE STORE AFTER CLOSE TO PAY FOR IT SINCE YOU HELD IT "JUST FOR ME" (WINK WINK) I would set up post before he opens the back door pistol whip the sh!t out his sorry @$$ ,bust both kneecaps wide open and prison shank him in the left kidney. IN THE TIMES WE LIVE IN HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO RAKE YOUR SISTER AND BROTHER OVER THE COALS WITH FEARMONGERING TACTICS JUST TO MAKE A FAST BUCK?? @#$%^&%^& ING TRAITOR......... LET ME PUT SOME MUCH NEEDED IRON IN YOUR DIET.

Andy9999 | 03-25-2009 04:56 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1645642) By the way, what's so wrong about having 20K rounds of ammo. Or 40 pistols? That sounds like a good start to me!:tongue_ma:
No nothing wrong lol ,it just a lot like for my imagination I have 5 guns and 3000 of 9 mm and 15 bricks of .22 and 1200 .38,1800ACP .45 and I started last September so you are right:4_1_72:

smullen | 03-25-2009 05:07 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645595) They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???
I got to shoulder one of these this weekend at one of my favorite local gunshops.... He was wanting like 550 or 600 for it... Had a few AKs in stock as well.... Also, some full auto HKs (Not that I could afford or legally own them)...

CrufflerJJ | 03-25-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1645647) When I see people Like that I want to tell them......... 1k for a sagia??? Well if you say so thats a dam fine deal!!! But let me sweeten the pie I will pay you 1500 if you Let me run home across town to get the money and MEET YOU AROUND THE BACK OF THE STORE AFTER CLOSE TO PAY FOR IT SINCE YOU HELD IT "JUST FOR ME" (WINK WINK) I would set up post before he opens the back door pistol whip the sh!t out his sorry @$$ ,bust both kneecaps wide open and prison shank him in the left kidney. IN THE TIMES WE LIVE IN HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO RAKE YOUR SISTER AND BROTHER OVER THE COALS WITH FEARMONGERING TACTICS JUST TO MAKE A FAST BUCK??
Ummmm....yeah.....right.... So what you're saying is the owner of property has no right to set a price on his property. Right? He should set it at YOUR price, because you're his "brother"???? Methinks not. It's all about making money, and spinning the story to justify the price, meester TA. That's called "sales." I don't care if you're selling a car, a weapon, or a silver round. If a buyer is uneducated enough (or desperate enough) to pay his price, so be it. Seller sets a price, buyer either pays it or not.

Doge | 03-25-2009 05:28 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? I think there are much better alternatives for home defense for a lot less than $1,035.

Twisted Avatar | 03-25-2009 05:32 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1645685) Ummmm....yeah.....right.... So what you're saying is the owner of property has no right to set a price on his property. Right? He should set it at YOUR price, because you're his "brother"???? Methinks not. It's all about making money, and spinning the story to justify the price, meester TA. That's called "sales." I don't care if you're selling a car, a weapon, or a silver round. If a buyer is uneducated enough (or desperate enough) to pay his price, so be it. Seller sets a price, buyer either pays it or not.
Cruff I am all about the free market...........really I am. But sometimes (and I use that sparingly) There is just flat out goughing and when I hear that "It will be gone by tommarow" I think Of that fat greasy used car saleman that says "Imma give you a good deal CAUSE I REALLY LIKE YOU" I just cant do it ...........I mean all or lives we have been getting @$$ raped by these bozo's and know we do it among ourselves in a heart beat. In a warped way it justfies what they do. The logic would be quite sound: If they are screwing themselves over we may as well be doing it. Since we do it the best. If I am wrong for thinking that way......I will be guitly as charged. T

CrufflerJJ | 03-25-2009 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1645708) Cruff I am all about the free market...........really I am. But sometimes (and I use that sparingly) There is just flat out goughing and when I hear that "It will be gone by tommarow" I think Of that fat greasy used car saleman that says "Imma give you a good deal CAUSE I REALLY LIKE YOU" I just cant do it ...........I mean all or lives we have been getting @$$ raped by these bozo's and know we do it among ourselves in a heart beat. In a warped way it justfies what they do. The logic would be quite sound: If they are screwing themselves over we may as well be doing it. Since we do it the best. If I am wrong for thinking that way......I will be guitly as charged. T
When I sell something on Fleabay or GunBroker, I look at how similar items have been priced. I set the price at a reasonable (probably high) price. If it sells, great! If it doesn't sell, then I'll re-list & maybe drop prices after a few weeks. If a local brick & mortar firearms dealer sets a price I feel is excessive, I don't buy. I don't feel outraged, insulted, or start planning his demise. "I would [snip] pistol whip the sh!t out his sorry @$$ ,bust both kneecaps wide open and prison shank him in the left kidney." No...not for me. I am not OWED a darn thing, other than what I rightfully earn on this planet.

moreair | 03-25-2009 05:50 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? 1 Attachment(s) For $750 and another $100 for the stock you can get a nice Mini14, They also make them in 6.8 now, Mine is a .223. Of course this is not mine.

Twisted Avatar | 03-25-2009 06:01 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1645729) When I sell something on Fleabay or GunBroker, I look at how similar items have been priced. I set the price at a reasonable (probably high) price. If it sells, great! If it doesn't sell, then I'll re-list & maybe drop prices after a few weeks. If a local brick & mortar firearms dealer sets a price I feel is excessive, I don't buy. I don't feel outraged, insulted, or start planning his demise. "I would [snip] pistol whip the sh!t out his sorry @$$ ,bust both kneecaps wide open and prison shank him in the left kidney." No...not for me. I am not OWED a darn thing, other than what I rightfully earn on this planet.
You know what......... Your right. The free is market is the free market. weather I like something or not no one is under obligation to do or buy anything. It just made me mad a hell when I saw that....... but my opinion should not color the whole experince. I have to take a back seat on this one. Your Point is well made and duly noted good sir :ok: T

CrufflerJJ | 03-25-2009 06:09 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1645752) You know what......... Your right. The free is market is the free market. weather I like something or not no one is under obligation to do or buy anything. It just made me mad a hell when I saw that....... but my opinion should not color the whole experince. I have to take a back seat on this one. Your Point is well made and duly noted good sir :ok: T
Now there you go again, saying that I'm right. Careful now!:36_1_30: Yes, I've overpaid on "goodies" (>30% on a Calico 9mm 951 carbine, for example, back ~1994). I chalk it up to eagerness/stoopidity/panic. Oh well - I wanted it, I got it. Now it's a matter of whether I can sell it at some "reasonable" (OK, greedy) price. Since the latest "panic" is kicking in, that might be more possible than a few years ago.

SilverCity | 03-25-2009 06:36 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645595) They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???
NO, THAT'S NOT A GOOD PRICE! Too much at HALF that price... I sold a new .308 Saiga a few weeks ago to another gunshow exhibitor for $600...my asking price was $650. There are several websites that claim to be getting more rifles in at the end of the month. You can always find an FFL dealer who will order you one for a much more reasonable price, if you shop around. Also check http://www.gunbroker.com/ for realistic market prices.... Well, I just checked gunbroker and most of their prices are WHACKED. Only saw one for $399 (free shipping) and the rest were $899 and UP...:banghead: All I can say is don't panic, there are millions of them in the country by now and you will eventually cross paths with one for a fair price.

gangsta99 | 03-25-2009 06:40 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? For $1000 on a Saiga does it come with a little mexican thug midget to shoot people for ya?

CQC McDuck | 03-25-2009 07:00 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645595) They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???
Holy crap that's expensive! I think I paid $475 for my 7.62x39 back in November. Was it already converted?

Andy9999 | 03-25-2009 07:24 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by CQC McDuck (Post 1645862) Holy crap that's expensive! I think I paid $475 for my 7.62x39 back in November. Was it already converted?
no, no conversion from the other hand I will research M 14 as an alternative

Lars Ragnarsson | 03-26-2009 12:24 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645595) They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???
Keep in mind that there are a couple of versions of the Saiga. One has the AK pistol grip and can take standard AK mags. These were running at about $500 before the rush, but I haven't seen any lately (not that I've been looking). The other looks like a hunting rifle with no pistol grip, and it won't take standard AK mags. If you want hi-cap mags, you'll have to order ones specially made for the Saiga (Surefire is one brand) at about $35 - $40 a pop. Either way, the price is high. If you want a regular Saiga in 7.62 x 39, Atlantic has them in stock - I just ordered one an hour ago. Under $500 including shipping. Email or call them first to make sure they still have some. They also have the mags. https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/bet...roduct708.aspx https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/bet...e/saiga162.jpg

Julian | 03-26-2009 01:01 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? http://www.armsofamerica.com/firearms.html Guns America dealer directory GunBroker.com dealer directory Shotgun News dealer directory Auction Arms dealer directory

Lars Ragnarsson | 03-26-2009 01:16 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 1647027) http://www.armsofamerica.com/firearms.html Guns America dealer directory GunBroker.com dealer directory Shotgun News dealer directory Auction Arms dealer directory
Damn! Good prices! What's their shipping like? Around $20 per rifle or so?

Ghost Recon | 03-26-2009 01:29 PM
Re: Just visited gun store??? I've read posts where people are waiting for prices to come down. I don't think that will happen. Big mistake, buy now. If money is tight get a 12 gauge and 00 buck....

Unclad Lad | 03-27-2009 12:51 AM
Re: Just visited gun store??? It's a ripoff at that price, even if it were gold-plated.

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Doge | 03-27-2009 01:02 AM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by moreair (Post 1645734) For $750 and another $100 for the stock you can get a nice Mini14, They also make them in 6.8 now, Mine is a .223. Of course this is not mine.
Ruger's new Tactical Mini-14: http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=5846&return=Y http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ducts/446L.jpg

skyvike | 03-27-2009 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1648275) Ruger's new Tactical Mini-14: http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=5846&return=Y http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ducts/446L.jpg
I would have three mini-14's if they had made them to accept M-16 magazines. Biggest flaw in this weapon is they don't....

WAoG | 03-27-2009 01:54 AM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy9999 (Post 1645595) They have Saiga 7.62X39 for 1035 and I got excited to buy one left store and need advice I need home defense riffle,have pistols already any opinions maybe Mini M 14 or AR 15 would be better is this a good price at current environment ???
I do not trust the 223 for home defense. Its a girls round. Good for killing squirrels.

buff01 | 03-27-2009 02:00 AM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1648275) Ruger's new Tactical Mini-14: http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=5846&return=Y http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ducts/446L.jpg
Dang that is one of the ugliest firearms I've ever seen! :signs14: Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Recon (Post 1647076) I've read posts where people are waiting for prices to come down. I don't think that will happen. Big mistake, buy now. If money is tight get a 12 gauge and 00 buck....
Now that is some good advice. A pump action 12GA is about the cheapest boomstick you're gonna find and they are probably the best home defense weapon.

WAoG | 03-27-2009 02:01 AM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by skyvike (Post 1648321) I would have three mini-14's if they had made them to accept M-16 magazines. Biggest flaw in this weapon is they don't....
I can't stand them!!

WAoG | 03-27-2009 02:03 AM
Re: Just visited gun store??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Recon (Post 1647076) I've read posts where people are waiting for prices to come down. I don't think that will happen. Big mistake, buy now. If money is tight get a 12 gauge and 00 buck....
Now that is home defense.

CrufflerJJ | 03-27-2009 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1648275) Ruger's new Tactical Mini-14: http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=5846&return=Y http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ducts/446L.jpg
I'm sorry, but that looks about as ugly & as poorly integrated as Bubba's Tactical Shotgun (see attached pic).

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