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Willie Peter | 12-10-2009 09:28 PM
Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call It's been out a couple days or so, seems like she's due an award..:23_28_100s: I'm sure it had to have been a frightening situation for her, a rural locale, at night, home alone..and some psycho wants in? Me, I would've pulled up a chair and waited for him, and he'd got at least 3 doses...I guess the biggest decision for me would be What gun to shoot him with? You Tube
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Goldhedge | 12-10-2009 09:42 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Happiness is a warm gun....

Drumblebum | 12-10-2009 09:45 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Fox news is WAY fun when they politically editorialize about something I actually agree with... (finally!) :RockOn: Fox News is still Fox News, however, make no mistake. Nothing fundamental has changed.

S_Goldberg | 12-10-2009 09:47 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call I feel really bad for her. She sounds like she is having a very difficult time with it. I hope she learns to cope.

Haltiat | 12-10-2009 09:48 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call I don't know what it is with these people. Like the man said in the video he had to see that she had a shotgun.

Haltiat | 12-10-2009 09:53 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 2069413) I feel really bad for her. She sounds like she is having a very difficult time with it. I hope she learns to cope.
I understand but I'd feel a lot worse for her if she wasn't able to stop the guy. Now just to be a jerk... why didn't she ask him to run 500 yards away so she could shoot him with her .308 battle rifle from a more advantageous distance?

Willie Peter | 12-10-2009 09:55 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 2069415) I don't know what it is with these people. Like the man said in the video he had to see that she had a shotgun.
It's proof that there are a lot of zombies out there, who knows what he'd done to her if he'd got in, one thing I'd disagree with, is what the 911 operator suggested to do, go into to a locked room, I'd NEVER do that, you're trapped then,she did the right thing, never let him out of her sight, and pulled the trigger on him.. *After thinking about it, I guess I would've used my CAR-15...:ok: oh, and I'd had on my Goalie Mask too.....

Goldfinger007 | 12-10-2009 09:55 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Kudos to the 911 operator and the DA too! The Trifeca. :ok: Oh my, and Kudos for the dirtbag being DRT.

S_Goldberg | 12-10-2009 10:01 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 2069422) I understand but I'd feel a lot worse for her if she wasn't able to stop the guy.
Oh, me too. I wasn't suggesting she should have acted differently, just that it is too bad that she was so broken up over the incident. Hopefully she can take solace int he fact that she waited until he actually broke in and so he had plenty of opportunity to leave (10 minutes from the time she called 911 to when she shot). The poor woman had to sit there for another 15 minutes until the deputy arrived. I guess she must live in a very rural place. It is better to be alive and have to take some time to reconcile taking a life than be victimized. Quote:
Now just to be a jerk... why didn't she ask him to run 500 yards away so she could shoot him with her .308 battle rifle from a more advantageous distance?
Clearly she has not read "the bible" and is not familiar with home defense procedures. Obviously she need to read up so next time she can be ready in her sniper's nest to engage targets of opportunity.

latemetal | 12-10-2009 10:02 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call I have mixed feelings. I'm glad she protected herself, I'm sorry she had to do it. I'm not sorry we are missing a Dirtbag.:36_1_30:

platinumdude | 12-10-2009 10:08 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 2069422) I understand but I'd feel a lot worse for her if she wasn't able to stop the guy. Now just to be a jerk... why didn't she ask him to run 500 yards away so she could shoot him with her .308 battle rifle from a more advantageous distance?
You can shoot close distance with a .308. I bet it would of only taken one shot too.

S_Goldberg | 12-10-2009 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 2069453) You can shoot close distance with a .308. I bet it would of only taken one shot too.
Dude, you missed the joke. Read this thread. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=430916

Haltiat | 12-10-2009 10:16 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 2069435) It is better to be alive and have to take some time to reconcile taking a life than be victimized.
Not only that but the zombie won't be victimizing any other women ever again. One or two may even see this on the news and be thusly deterred from attacking other women they may have intended to harm. Her act was justified and not selfish, it benefited society at large. I do hope she has a good man and supportive family to help her overcome what happened. Just being in a situation like that is a lot to cope with, even if the lady doesn't have to shoot anyone. It sounds like she knows the Lord though so I think when it's all said and done she'll be ok. Now he's something else to think about. Truth be told there could probably be a similar story told on the news every day of the year without repeating the same incident. You won't often see a good shoot though because that reinforces the idea that the RKBA means something and that the armed citizen contributes to the security of the nation.

Haltiat | 12-10-2009 10:27 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Oh yeah, it's not the .308. I love .308, it's a great caliber. M1A's, FAL's, Saiga's, they're all awesome. I'm just poking fun at a bizarre notion that long range bench rest shooting has something to do with self defense. Truth be told long range shooting skills do have their place but it's specialized and because of the limitations of threat detection somewhat confined to offensive use. Yet there are folks out there trying to teach laypeople that they should be training to engage adversaries at long ranges for self defense. It defies understanding. Hey, while I'm at it I bet that lady's grouping sucked. In fact I bet she even missed the x-ring! :yippee: When it was all said and done she had the tools and will to defend herself and that counts for a lot. Like Willie said I am also disturbed that the 911 operator told her to go into a tactically disadvantageous situation. It would have been far safer to tell her to run out the door on the other side of the house than to corner herself in a tiny room with no hope of escape... and as I said in another thread today, running away isn't exactly the surest bet in the first place. But that advice wasn't about safety, it was about LIABILITY.

platinumdude | 12-10-2009 10:34 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call And I only heard one shot. She did good.

S_Goldberg | 12-10-2009 10:54 PM
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Like Willie said I am also disturbed that the 911 operator told her to go into a tactically disadvantageous situation. It would have been far safer to tell her to run out the door on the other side of the house than to corner herself in a tiny room with no hope of escape... and as I said in another thread today, running away isn't exactly the surest bet in the first place. But that advice wasn't about safety, it was about LIABILITY.
If you listen to the whole tape they do advise her that she can use force to defend her property and they never tell her not to shoot or anything like that. Which is very different from the Joe Horn case in which the operator repeatedly advises him not to do anything to defend his property. http://www.examiner.com/x-15870-Popu...der-w911-audio

shades2 | 12-11-2009 03:44 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call And so, his long rap sheet was brought to a swift close. I feel sorry for him being a lifelong loser, and probably being out of his mind on drugs, but I'm glad she stopped him from hurting herself and other innocents.

Mantokir | 12-11-2009 01:40 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Why didn't she just wait for the cops to come. I mean they would have saved her.... ....right?

stillprepping | 12-11-2009 05:31 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call isnt it reassuring to know we "have a right to defend ourselves"? fox is such garbage .. i rarely watch it anymore.

Zusn | 12-11-2009 06:00 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 2069415) Like the man said in the video he had to see that she had a shotgun.
I hate that frickin' Shepard Smith or whatever the hell his name is! He's the clown that tried to start crap with Ralph Nader during the Obama election because of his "Uncle Tom" comment. On a related side note, even if the guy breaking in saw the gun, it wouldn't mean shit, here's why: One night my friend was sitting in the upstairs of his house. Suddenly he heard his girlfriend and her friend start yelling in the downstairs. He started down the stairs to see what was going on. Some dude broke in and the girls were yelling at him to get out. The guy who broke in hit my friend's girlfriend which caused my friend to yell at the intruder. The guy started up the stairs at my friend. My friend ran back up the stairs and grabbed his shotgun out of the closet. When the bad guy got to the top of the stairs, my friend was standing there with the shotgun pointing at him. Now this is where the problem starts. My friend tells the guy to get the hell out. What does the guy do? He lunges at my friend and they end up wrestling on the ground. Why didn't he shoot when the bad guy came at him? His shotgun wasn't loaded and he didn't have time to load it. He thought the sight of the gun would scare the guy off. It didn't. Don't ever believe that flashing a gun or racking the slide on a shotgun is going to scare off everyone. The dude that broke in was high on some serious shit and wasn't phased by the sight of a gun. The story did have a happy ending. The police response was about 1 minute and about 8 cars showed up. (my friend lived about 3 blocks away from the station) I learned a lot from his ordeal.

Hermie | 12-11-2009 06:01 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...

Twisted Avatar | 12-11-2009 06:06 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call PREDATORS ONLY UNDERSTAND STRENGHT T

ruprick | 12-11-2009 07:27 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call I'm a gun guy - I freaking love guns.....I'm all for ones right to defend themselves too .....but she probably did not have to kill the guy. I don't know what the situation was in terms of visability....but she had a lot of time to get ready and in a spot to possibly even detain the guy....provided she could see if he had a weapon. Also - she used some extremely poor choice of words that may have worked against her with a different prosecuter. Hind sight is 20/20 and it all worked out for her.....yep, the guy was a dirt bag and will not be missed - and she is very likely preventing future crimes by killing the guy. Just sounded (remember we can't see what was happening) like her killing him was probably not necessary....she probably have a chance to protect herself without using the force of death. I can't put my finger on it - but it was nearly like she looked forward to being so prepared and was nearly bragging about her ability/preparation to kill him.....her choice of words were very poor....perhaps it was just the situation she was in...there is a lot we don't know about the situation. Does anyone else get that impression?

Mantokir | 12-11-2009 08:04 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 2071325) I'm a gun guy - I freaking love guns.....I'm all for ones right to defend themselves too .....but she probably did not have to kill the guy. I don't know what the situation was in terms of visability....but she had a lot of time to get ready and in a spot to possibly even detain the guy....provided she could see if he had a weapon. Also - she used some extremely poor choice of words that may have worked against her with a different prosecuter. Hind sight is 20/20 and it all worked out for her.....yep, the guy was a dirt bag and will not be missed - and she is very likely preventing future crimes by killing the guy. Just sounded (remember we can't see what was happening) like her killing him was probably not necessary....she probably have a chance to protect herself without using the force of death. I can't put my finger on it - but it was nearly like she looked forward to being so prepared and was nearly bragging about her ability/preparation to kill him.....her choice of words were very poor....perhaps it was just the situation she was in...there is a lot we don't know about the situation. Does anyone else get that impression?
I didn't get that from her at all, more or less seemed to me like she was talking herself up, maybe getting ready for the possibility of having to shoot the guy. And are you seriously suggesting that someone should try and detain someone breaking into their house?

mick silver | 12-11-2009 08:41 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call if some one come in my home i am not telling him to leave .he will leave but he will not be walking . she did the right thing . never second guest what you have to do

mick silver | 12-11-2009 08:43 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 2071325) I'm a gun guy - I freaking love guns.....I'm all for ones right to defend themselves too .....but she probably did not have to kill the guy. I don't know what the situation was in terms of visability....but she had a lot of time to get ready and in a spot to possibly even detain the guy....provided she could see if he had a weapon. Also - she used some extremely poor choice of words that may have worked against her with a different prosecuter. Hind sight is 20/20 and it all worked out for her.....yep, the guy was a dirt bag and will not be missed - and she is very likely preventing future crimes by killing the guy. Just sounded (remember we can't see what was happening) like her killing him was probably not necessary....she probably have a chance to protect herself without using the force of death. I can't put my finger on it - but it was nearly like she looked forward to being so prepared and was nearly bragging about her ability/preparation to kill him.....her choice of words were very poor....perhaps it was just the situation she was in...there is a lot we don't know about the situation. Does anyone else get that impression?
would you tell your wife not to shot ... i bet not . me an the wife talk about this if i am not home an some one come in she knows what to do

ruprick | 12-11-2009 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mantokir (Post 2071396) I didn't get that from her at all, more or less seemed to me like she was talking herself up, maybe getting ready for the possibility of having to shoot the guy. And are you seriously suggesting that someone should try and detain someone breaking into their house?
Depending on the situation - yep - why kill if you don't have to? Here in Michigan there is a lot of baggage associated with that kind of shooting. Plus - no matter how bad assed you think you might be - you have to live with the fact you killed someone - and this could be a real problem if you could look back on it and think did I have to do that? What if it was a young 16 year old kid....not a lot of criminal history? You don't have that monday morning quarterback perspective at the heat of the moment. What if he knows he is caught and tries to give up or run...do you still kill him? I just don't think death is right for some guy trying to steal your shit while you hide under cover waiting to blast him....that said, the possibility of it happening should serve as serves as a fantastic deterant to criminals. It's best to make it known you are armed and prepared to shoot - provided there is time/distance and safety between you and the the perp in your home.....on the street it is different - when the gun come out it if fight toi the death time...no time and too dangerous to warn or drive the guy away.

I am me, I am free | 12-11-2009 09:23 PM
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It's best to make it known you are armed and prepared to shoot - provided there is time/distance and safety between you and the the perp in your home
That's the problem, if the gremlin is less than 7 yards from you and you're inside a structure, best to neutralize the threat rather than detain IMO, UNLESS the gremlin immediately submits by going face down on the ground. I'd give 'em a chance to surrender (or even possibly flee), but they'd better be doing it post haste. Nanoseconds count. And if they're inside my abode they've already breached the perimeter and their criminal intent is clear. Dead men tell no tales. JMO

steel_ag | 12-11-2009 10:41 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Just got my custom no trespass (with self-executing contract verbage) signs the other day from buildasign.com...just posted some on two of the corners of my property today...will finish the other two corners tomorrow...already have the castle law signs up by all my windows saying that intruders will be shot... no intruder will be able to say they weren't warned... :36_1_30:

bfnelson | 12-11-2009 11:16 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 2071325) I'm a gun guy - I freaking love guns.....I'm all for ones right to defend themselves too .....but she probably did not have to kill the guy. I don't know what the situation was in terms of visability....but she had a lot of time to get ready and in a spot to possibly even detain the guy....provided she could see if he had a weapon. Also - she used some extremely poor choice of words that may have worked against her with a different prosecuter. Hind sight is 20/20 and it all worked out for her.....yep, the guy was a dirt bag and will not be missed - and she is very likely preventing future crimes by killing the guy. Just sounded (remember we can't see what was happening) like her killing him was probably not necessary....she probably have a chance to protect herself without using the force of death. I can't put my finger on it - but it was nearly like she looked forward to being so prepared and was nearly bragging about her ability/preparation to kill him.....her choice of words were very poor....perhaps it was just the situation she was in...there is a lot we don't know about the situation. Does anyone else get that impression?
A woman cannot detain a man, a man cannot reliably detain another man without a weapon. Lots of things can and do go wrong, you could slip on a banana peel or trip over your own two feet or he gets a lucky punch. There's no reason to expect someone to risk their life to save the life of someone trying to hurt them, there is no benefit. It's pathetic that people have to watch their language in their own home while someone is breaking in. I know what you mean about her language but she should be able to brag about it or say anything else she wants as long as the man was actually trying to hurt her. It's her house. The real problem is - it ain't HER house or HER life. Her life belongs to the state so she needs watch what she says about a man bent on killing her in her own home. She needs permission to protect her life and can only do so under a rigid set of conditions and risks her freedom to do so. Honestly I don't think it matters one bit what she says, it matters that it's her house and he's violent and unwelcome. I wouldn't care if she blew his balls off and stomped his teeth out and the cops had to drag her off of him. He lost his right to life when he came through that window. The only thing left to determine is who's house is it and did he break in. That's not the way it is but that's the way it should be.

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tekrunner | 12-11-2009 11:30 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag (Post 2071644) Just got my custom no trespass (with self-executing contract verbage) signs the other day from buildasign.com...just posted some on two of the corners of my property today...will finish the other two corners tomorrow...already have the castle law signs up by all my windows saying that intruders will be shot... no intruder will be able to say they weren't warned... :36_1_30:
Would someone please post a link where this post can be elaborated on? Thanks.

Government Chee-tos | 12-12-2009 12:06 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag (Post 2071644) Just got my custom no trespass (with self-executing contract verbage) signs the other day from buildasign.com...just posted some on two of the corners of my property today...will finish the other two corners tomorrow...already have the castle law signs up by all my windows saying that intruders will be shot... no intruder will be able to say they weren't warned... :36_1_30:
Pics? I'd given the guy a single warning then blasted him. I've grown very tired of having to worry about the rights of some parasite trying to do harm to innocent people. Send a bill to his family for a new sliding glass door.

steel_ag | 12-12-2009 12:15 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Your friend probably didn't set his signs up right either...mine are pretty detailed...and the statutes around here are supportive as well...also, I will be sending copies via registered mail tomorrow to my local and state leos putting them on notice as well...I also plan on putting a paper copy in the public record as well with my county recorder's office and a website like www.nationalrepublicregistry.com so there are two sources of prima facie evidence that can't be denied in court.... here is the verbage on my signs, with personal info removed... The signs have PRIVATE PROPERTY on the top and NO TRESPASS on the bottom in big bold letters with the following verbage in between... NOTICE AND DEMAND NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL; NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT. SILENCE IS ACQUIESCENCE, AGREEMENT, AND DISHONOR. DOMUS SUA CUIQUE EST TUTISSIMUM REFUGIUM. EVERY MAN'S HOUSE IS HIS CASTLE. LE CONTRAT FAIT LA LOI. THE CONTRACT MAKES THE LAW. IGNORANCE OF FACTS EXCUSES, IGNORANCE OF LAW DOES NOT EXCUSE THIS IS A SELF-EXECUTING CONTRACT. PRIVATE PROPERTY. KEEP OUT. NO TRESPASS. DO NOT HARM PEOPLE. DO NOT DAMAGE PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY IS UNDER VIDEO SURVEILLANCE. NO PEDDLERS AND SOLICITORS. NO FIREARMS OR ANY OTHER OBJECT OR DEVICE USED OR ATTEMPTED TO BE USED TO CAUSE BODILY HARM. BEWARE OF DOG. LAND USE FEE PER GOVERNMENTAL, QUASI-GOVERNMENTAL, DE FACTO GOVERNMENTAL, OR PRIVATE INTRUSION, PER INTRUDER – TWO MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS. PROPERTY OF INTRUDER(S) WILL BE SEIZED AS SURETY FOR PAYMENT OF LAND USE FEE. INTRUDER(S) ENTER PROPERTY AT THEIR OWN RISK; LANDOWNERS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INJURIES INCURRED BY INTRUDER(S) FROM ANY SOURCE. INTRUDER(S) INDEMNIFIES LANDOWNERS FROM ANY ACTS ARISING FROM THE LANDOWNERS’ NEGLIGENCE. All public officials must complete a public servant questionnaire located near the entrance (or downloaded from www.xyz.com) prior to landowners’ decision to grant or not to grant consent for entry onto landowners’ property. Mail completed public servant questionnaire(s) to the following temporary mailing location: Joe-Snuffy: Freeman, c/o 1234 Somewhere Street, Suite 123, PMB#456, Somecity, Somestate Republic; near [98765]; Non-domestic without the US. A public official, agent, medical personnel or any other person(s) entering this property without the express consent of the landowners and/or without a lawful, correct, and complete 4th amendment warrant will be considered an intruder attempting to trespass, extort, injure, threaten, harass, intimidate, or otherwise jeopardize the life and property of the landowners. Person(s) granted consent by landowners to enter property, hereinafter invitees, must leave property no later than 2 minutes after being notified of landowners’ revocation of consent. Revocation of landowners’ prior consent shall not relieve any invitee(s) from liabilities already incurred. All fees are stated in United States Dollars which means that a United States Dollar will be defined, for the purpose of this NOTICE AND DEMAND as, a one ounce silver coin of .999 fine silver, or the equivalent par value as established by law or the exchange rate as set by the US Mint, whichever is the higher amount, for a certified one ounce silver coin (US Silver Dollar) at the time of the intrusion as outlined herein; if the fee is to be paid in Federal Reserve Notes, Federal Reserve Notes will only be accepted at par value as indicated above. The foregoing fee shall be deemed due and payable in full within thirty days from first notice to the foregoing temporary mailing location. Intruders agree to provide full details of their private information necessary to obtain land use fee. This notice and demand does not apply to any employee of the United Parcel Service, FEDEX Corporation, and of any utility company with easement rights on this property, who are acting in their official capacity for their employer; no firearms will be allowed by any of these foregoing employees at any time. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

steel_ag | 12-12-2009 12:19 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call One thing, to those who would copy this verbage, think about putting a phrase extending the liability to the intruder(s)'s estate, successors, heirs and assigns... etc... I thought about that after I had already ordered the signs....

nub | 12-12-2009 12:26 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Ok, I have been reading this thread for a couple of days now, I have to put in my 2 cents. Where I am at, sometimes the sheriff shows up and sometimes they don't. We have always said "they are just good for the clean up." I am glad she waited to shoot til he got in the house and at least she shot him dead, If she would have just injured him he could have sued her, A few years ago I read an article about a shooting and the person was just injured, turned around and sued the homeowner who owned the house he had broken into, ridiculous. A sherriff was here not long ago, he saw my Mossberg hanging on the wall, I asked him what my rights were if someone were to come up here, he said if you are in fear for your life shoot to kill, but hold your fire for the UPS man. I think protecting oneself is different when you live in the middle of nowhere, It could take 10 mins to and hour depending on what part of the county the sherriff is in. There are all kinds of no trespassing signs, and the gates are locked so nobody should be coming around uninvited anyway. I wouldn't have any problem shooting someone to protect myself or my family.

Willie Peter | 12-12-2009 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nub (Post 2071780) Ok, I have been reading this thread for a couple of days now, I have to put in my 2 cents. Where I am at, sometimes the sheriff shows up and sometimes they don't. We have always said "they are just good for the clean up." I am glad she waited to shoot til he got in the house and at least she shot him dead, If she would have just injured him he could have sued her, A few years ago I read an article about a shooting and the person was just injured, turned around and sued the homeowner who owned the house he had broken into, ridiculous. A sherriff was here not long ago, he saw my Mossberg hanging on the wall, I asked him what my rights were if someone were to come up here, he said if you are in fear for your life shoot to kill, but hold your fire for the UPS man. I think protecting oneself is different when you live in the middle of nowhere, It could take 10 mins to and hour depending on what part of the county the sherriff is in. There are all kinds of no trespassing signs, and the gates are locked so nobody should be coming around uninvited anyway. I wouldn't have any problem shooting someone to protect myself or my family.
Very well said, and absolutely the right attitude, I'm sure it'd been dealt with the same way around here too, no charges, no nothing, imagine, someone tries to break into your house late one night, throws a table though the slider and breaks the glass? I'd know one thing, he wasn't out collecting for the Red Cross...I'd dispatch him with extreme prejudice

shades2 | 12-12-2009 09:44 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call I'm not going to question this woman's actions, as she did what she felt appropriate in the circumstances, it was a home invasion in progress, and she could have been disarmed if she did not shoot. Personally, if the shotgun was fully loaded, they were alone, un-armed, and I had the space & time, I'd give them a warning shot past their ear, and see if they're still interested. Killing someone for me, is a last resort. If a shotgun goes off near your head and you keep coming, you're either crazy, or completely on drugs. If they still seem keen on causing mayhem, the next shot wouldn't miss. If they're in a group or armed, I would have no hesitation in dropping one, or all of them, if required. Use of force is an interesting topic, and I err on the side of using it in a controlled way. As for police attendance, I would bet that 80-90% of the time they clean up a violent crime scene afterward, and do not prevent the crime. Particularly the case in a pre-meditated sinister sort of crime, where there is little warning for the victim. Then it is just down to what you have and what the attacker has. I'm not saying don't call the cops, but don't rely on them to show up in time, I've called them before for relatively minor stuff, and even with there best attendance of around 8 minutes it is way too late, a whole heap of stuff can happen in 8 minutes.

Twisted Avatar | 12-12-2009 10:09 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call 1 Attachment(s) Tis the season @$$hole. Ho, Ho, Ho

Mantokir | 12-12-2009 05:19 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 2071486) Depending on the situation - yep - why kill if you don't have to? Here in Michigan there is a lot of baggage associated with that kind of shooting. Plus - no matter how bad assed you think you might be - you have to live with the fact you killed someone - and this could be a real problem if you could look back on it and think did I have to do that? What if it was a young 16 year old kid....not a lot of criminal history? You don't have that monday morning quarterback perspective at the heat of the moment. What if he knows he is caught and tries to give up or run...do you still kill him? I just don't think death is right for some guy trying to steal your shit while you hide under cover waiting to blast him....that said, the possibility of it happening should serve as serves as a fantastic deterant to criminals. It's best to make it known you are armed and prepared to shoot - provided there is time/distance and safety between you and the the perp in your home.....on the street it is different - when the gun come out it if fight toi the death time...no time and too dangerous to warn or drive the guy away.
The problem with that line of thinking is you'll make people hesitate. If it's common policy that a person can shoot an intruder, then the intruders are gonna know it. If not, well then ignorance is no excuse (sounds familiar) If you make people stop and analyze a situation though, then they hesitate, when they hesitate then they end up dead. When do I shoot, what are they doing, Am I in danger. You start to second guess yourself. The best way to handle it is to give people a hard line as to when to take action.

TomD | 12-12-2009 06:19 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call If it was my wife, I would have wanted her to conduct herself exactly the same way. When the perp first broke through the door, she had absolute tactical advantage. You cannot assume that that situation would have continued, the guy could have closed rapidly with her, thrown something at her, any number of things. Sorry but when my wife is alone and isolated and someone of unknown but definitely aggressive intent is breaking into the house, "give him a break and maybe he'll play nice" ain't the right answer. That answer will radically revise downward your wife's probability of coming out of it unharmed. Not to mention I think that people who do that sort of thing need to do a lot of dying. It might discourage the ones that are left. That ass**** had probably spent 35 years terrifying hundreds of people. We badly need a system that will deal with them before they accumulate a crime resume encompassing decades. If you are looking for fault, there it is, not with a woman who refused to be a victim.

WearyTraveler | 12-12-2009 09:38 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call Quote:
Originally Posted by Government Chee-tos (Post 2071752) Pics? I'd given the guy a single warning then blasted him. I've grown very tired of having to worry about the rights of some parasite trying to do harm to innocent people. Send a bill to his family for a new sliding glass door.
I agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY! We hear about too much BS. When will they forget about standing up for some dirtbag who committed the crime and pay attention to the poor bastiage who got broken into? I am not a violent man, but break into my house in the middle of the night and: I will not "warn" you so you can come back when I'm not prepared. I will not hold you till the police arrive so that you can exercise your rights and be on the street the next morning. I will not "wing" you so I can pay your medical bills. Your "warning" was my locked door. Break into my house in the middle of the night and I will kill you. It has to stop!

I am me, I am free | 12-12-2009 10:15 PM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call 'Giving a warning shot' will lead to legal troubles. If you're gonna drop the hammer then it would have to be a good shoot, and 'firing a warning shot' indicates doubt as to whether the circumstances even warrant the use of deadly force. Nanoseconds count. Deal with it.

deaddogduke | 12-13-2009 01:21 AM
Re: Woman shoots Home Invader caught on 911 call He got just what he deserved. Good riddence. God bless the great equilizer.

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