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oz in sc | 08-19-2008 11:13 AM
Guns stolen... Left the house just after 1pm yesterday,came home around 5pm. In that intervening time someone stole several of our guns. Weird thing is they knew EXACTLY where they were(we have told no-one where they were) and ONLY took the guns,leaving a laptop sitting right next to where the guns were located. Weirder still they left behind one semi-auto rifle that to be honest was worth more than some of the others....that was in the same location. The ONLY way I noticed was I was starting to post a reply on here regarding one of the rifles and went to look for it... We called the cops,came out took a report and dusted for prints on the side door but found nothing.It looks as if someone tried to pry the lock but who knows. Now in such times you get suspicious but one thing that everyone immediately picked up on was our house had been shown in the last few weeks...we weren't present and neither was our realtor,just the potential buyer and her realtor. Put in a claim and hopefully will get some money back to replace at least some of them...

SilverCity | 08-19-2008 11:17 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1244954) Left the house just after 1pm yesterday,came home around 5pm. In that intervening time someone stole several of our guns. Weird thing is they knew EXACTLY where they were(we have told no-one where they were) and ONLY took the guns,leaving a laptop sitting right next to where the guns were located. Weirder still they left behind one semi-auto rifle that to be honest was worth more than some of the others....that was in the same location. The ONLY way I noticed was I was starting to post a reply on here regarding one of the rifles and went to look for it... We called the cops,came out took a report and dusted for prints on the side door but found nothing.It looks as if someone tried to pry the lock but who knows. Now in such times you get suspicious but one thing that everyone immediately picked up on was our house had been shown in the last few weeks...we weren't present and neither was our realtor,just the potential buyer and her realtor. Put in a claim and hopefully will get some money back to replace at least some of them...
Sorry to hear that...I can sympathize because it happened to me. :thumpdown

SLV>GLD | 08-19-2008 11:19 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Wow, that sucks. I'd definitely be hounding the police to investigate the realtor and anyone brought into the house. I'm curious where the guns were in the context of just how hard it would have been for a prospective home buyer to come across them. I would bet that the prospective buyer was actually a ruse to search houses for valuables, The realtor is likely innocent although futzing the lock would be a great false trail when actual entry was gained with the key in the realtor box. I ask about the guns' location because any realtor would not be cool with someone digging through stuff but it is quite customary to open closets and attic ladders and such to see how big they are or how they are accessed or to see if doors bump each other, etc.

hypervel | 08-19-2008 11:30 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Did they bust open your safe????!!!!

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 11:34 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1244959) Sorry to hear that...I can sympathize because it happened to me. :thumpdown
I am coming to the conclusion that I am destined NOT to own FAL type rifles....I had two stolen this time and one stolen the last.... Last time it was VERY obvious,door kicked in,mattress thrown off the bed,that sort of thing. This time I was home for about 30 minutes before I went looking for the gun.... The feeling of helplessness is probably the worst part,that and how it makes you feel vulnerable in your own home.

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 11:37 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1244963) Wow, that sucks. I'd definitely be hounding the police to investigate the realtor and anyone brought into the house. I'm curious where the guns were in the context of just how hard it would have been for a prospective home buyer to come across them. I would bet that the prospective buyer was actually a ruse to search houses for valuables, The realtor is likely innocent although futzing the lock would be a great false trail when actual entry was gained with the key in the realtor box. I ask about the guns' location because any realtor would not be cool with someone digging through stuff but it is quite customary to open closets and attic ladders and such to see how big they are or how they are accessed or to see if doors bump each other, etc.
It would have required LOOKING for them...they were not in plain sight or stacked in a closet(well they were before we showed the house...:D). And no,they were not in a gun safe,we are selling the home and removed the hidden storage area when we renovated the closet... But while they might have been harder to steal it also means harder to reach in times of need. We DID get complacent and stop carrying the .357 with us...our fault there.

The Argent Dragon | 08-19-2008 11:46 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Sorry to hear that man........that really sux. :banghead: You have my sympathies as well.

JJ_ | 08-19-2008 11:57 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Nothing gets my blood pressure up more than a sneaky thief....:rant: To have guns stolen only makes it that much worse. Good luck getting them back.

RedRider | 08-19-2008 11:59 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Man, now you got me thinking I need a safe...

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 12:08 PM
Re: Guns stolen... I was...a little POed.:D I have tried to become a better person and not get so angry but Lors knows it is difficult. So....I am thinking we should change course on our firearms.... I am thinking this will be as good a time as any to buy two pistols in the same caliber and same model/make. I liked the revolver we had,wife liked it too as there was nothign to mess around with-point and shoot. So I am thinking .357 magnum,7shot Taurus... This is what was stolen: http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/627SS4.jpg It worked out okay,was too big for concealed carry however...

JJ_ | 08-19-2008 12:16 PM
Re: Guns stolen... you lost 2 FAL's AND the .357?...:shocked_ma: How many weps did they get? - OHh btw.. "...be angry and sin not. ...":D -Vengence is His - But JUSTICE is MINE!:secruity:

JJ_ | 08-19-2008 12:17 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by RedRider (Post 1245043) Man, now you got me thinking I need a safe...
roger that - I've asked for one for Christmas:D

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 12:26 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Two FAL's,one 18'' carbine on Imbel receiver(never really shot by me,was still trying to set it up) and one 21'' rifle. One Remington 870 express magnum with 18'' barrel,nice shotgun. One Taurus .357 magnum 7 shot revolver in stainless steel.Very nice,ported barrel,liked this one a lot. A few years back we had stolen a 18'' Imbel FAL carbine,another Taurus .357 snubby, and a .44 magnum revolver. None recovered although the police do send letters asking if I have any additional information. We live in a mixed ethnic semi-rural area,property crime has increased in the last few years as we went to a public meeting and everyone is upset about it,black and white. Of course the usual folks were there,crying that 'taking the law into your own hands' is wrong.:rolleyes_m: However the loudest applause was for the people who openly stated they would kill anyone breaking into their homes....which is legal in our state.

mayhem | 08-19-2008 12:56 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Blame it on Putin and the commies...

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 01:01 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 1245146) Blame it on Putin and the commies...
More likely some of our wonderful welfare recipients....:wink:

<SLV> | 08-19-2008 01:08 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1245103) Of course the usual folks were there,crying that 'taking the law into your own hands' is wrong.:rolleyes_m:
That's cuz she knows that her son, Tyrone, has been roaming the neighborhood at night.

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 01:25 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Their parents are too lazy to show up to a public meeting....these were hippy dippy types,all peace, love and understanding....and pissed off because their stuff was stolen but unwilling to stand up and do what is necessary.

eat_beef | 08-19-2008 02:26 PM
Re: Guns stolen... It's a longshot, but you might try checking the pawn shops in neighboring towns. They'll probably sit on new items for 20-45 days, but you might catch something there. You can also hit the firearms forums, most of the big ones have a 'stolen weapons' list, and you can list your stuff there. I know it sounds like a needle in a haystack, but several have been found this way. You can also check to make sure YOUR guns don't come up for sale. Sorry to hear about your situation, I hope if all else fails you'll at least get properly reimbursed from insurance.

mtnman | 08-19-2008 03:15 PM
Re: Guns stolen... You mean to tell me you let someone into your house when you weren’t there? A realtor and so called house (thief) shopper. Until you get a little smarter you'll get no pity here. NEVER LET ANYONE INTO YOUR HOUSE UNLESS YOU ARE PRESENT. THEN NEVER NEVER NEVER let them see anything of value. People get what they deserve. Do you at least have the serial numbers of thse stolen guns?

GoldMaster | 08-19-2008 03:24 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Anyone interested in a couple of Firearms, this is a hot deal. You can get these guns for a steal, forget paperwork pay and go with these puppies. 2 FAL�s 1 carbine 1 remington870 1 .357 mag. Make offer���

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 03:35 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1245308) It's a longshot, but you might try checking the pawn shops in neighboring towns. They'll probably sit on new items for 20-45 days, but you might catch something there. You can also hit the firearms forums, most of the big ones have a 'stolen weapons' list, and you can list your stuff there. I know it sounds like a needle in a haystack, but several have been found this way. You can also check to make sure YOUR guns don't come up for sale. Sorry to hear about your situation, I hope if all else fails you'll at least get properly reimbursed from insurance.
Posted it online already,went to our one and only pawn shop and there was nothing. Our immediate area is....close(as in everyone is related close) and the guns are most likely in someones closet. Sad thing is the idiots won't know what they have in the two FALs...

Atahualpa | 08-19-2008 03:37 PM
Re: Guns stolen... When I was growing you had your guns in a nice gun cabinet in the den as part of the decor. Nowadays, if you don't have them in a gun safe hidden from view, you are asking for trouble. I would start shopping for a gun safe before I would consider replacing the stolen guns.

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 03:39 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1245398) You mean to tell me you let someone into your house when you weren�t there? A realtor and so called house (thief) shopper. Until you get a little smarter you'll get no pity here. NEVER LET ANYONE INTO YOUR HOUSE UNLESS YOU ARE PRESENT. THEN NEVER NEVER NEVER let them see anything of value. People get what they deserve. Do you at least have the serial numbers of thse stolen guns?
We have two dogs that had to be removed to show the house,and to be honest after almost a year an donly three showings you get desperate... Not sure where you live but showing a house without the owners present is pretty common here. Funny thing is our house is ho-hum,nothing special looking on the outside so it is strange(IF the 'buyer was responsible for the break in) for a criminal to pick our house. The rifles were not in plain view or even easily seen,they required someone to actually look,that is why we have some doubts...the 'buyer' would have had to have been left alone. Serial numbers are all recorded and with the police. Another sad thing is three of the four were private sales.... There WAS no paperwork trail.:banghead:

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 03:40 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMaster (Post 1245415) Anyone interested in a couple of Firearms, this is a hot deal. You can get these guns for a steal, forget paperwork pay and go with these puppies. 2 FAL�s 1 carbine 1 remington870 1 .357 mag. Make offer���
How much???:D You would have had some drive to get here from TN...

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 03:41 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1245439) When I was growing you had your guns in a nice gun cabinet in the den as part of the decor. Nowadays, if you don't have them in a gun safe hidden from view, you are asking for trouble. I would start shopping for a gun safe before I would consider replacing the stolen guns.
We are trying to get the hell out of here....I positively HATE living here.... For some odd reason others think of this place as a paradise.:confused_ma:

Silver Moon Rising | 08-19-2008 03:49 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Get the names of all persons that have been viewed your home from the Realtor and provide those to the police.

platinumdude | 08-19-2008 03:50 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1245444) We have two dogs that had to be removed to show the house,and to be honest after almost a year an donly three showings you get desperate... Not sure where you live but showing a house without the owners present is pretty common here. Funny thing is our house is ho-hum,nothing special looking on the outside so it is strange(IF the 'buyer was responsible for the break in) for a criminal to pick our house. The rifles were not in plain view or even easily seen,they required someone to actually look,that is why we have some doubts...the 'buyer' would have had to have been left alone. Serial numbers are all recorded and with the police. Another sad thing is three of the four were private sales.... There WAS no paperwork trail.:banghead:
Remote chance, I know. If someone coming to see the house brought their kids with them, and they happened to wonder off and find the guns. Bad things could happen. Best to lock them up in the trunk of a car if you had to.

Breaking_the_Bonds | 08-19-2008 03:53 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Before you buy more guns, please buy a quality gun safe and secure it from the inside (preferably to concrete) so it cannot be removed. http://common.csnstores.com/common/p.../SON1082_a.jpg We don't need criminals getting any more guns than they already have.a

Ghost Recon | 08-19-2008 03:55 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1244954) Left the house just after 1pm yesterday,came home around 5pm. In that intervening time someone stole several of our guns. Weird thing is they knew EXACTLY where they were(we have told no-one where they were) and ONLY took the guns,leaving a laptop sitting right next to where the guns were located. Weirder still they left behind one semi-auto rifle that to be honest was worth more than some of the others....that was in the same location. The ONLY way I noticed was I was starting to post a reply on here regarding one of the rifles and went to look for it... We called the cops,came out took a report and dusted for prints on the side door but found nothing.It looks as if someone tried to pry the lock but who knows. Now in such times you get suspicious but one thing that everyone immediately picked up on was our house had been shown in the last few weeks...we weren't present and neither was our realtor,just the potential buyer and her realtor. Put in a claim and hopefully will get some money back to replace at least some of them...
I just sold my house. Kept all the guns in the safe and put an old bedspread over the safe. I put file cabinets in front of it, so someone would have to work to even lift that bedspread to see what was under it. One idiot realtor left both the front and back doors unlocked when she left. Nothing happened but still.... I'm moving into an apartment and am leaving the safe in a friends basement loaded down. With enough time they can break into the safe but there's no way they can get it up the stairs fully loaded.

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 04:03 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 1245458) Pardon me for saying so, but if I were a police or insurance investigator I'd be looking at you for fraud. "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, ... Fool me - you can't get fooled again. You let strangers into your home unattended? :stupid:
Fraud??? One of the first things out the cops mouth was 'has your home been shown lately?'. Most people I know aren't present when their homes show,hell open houses ofterntimes have a realtor sitting at a table while you wander through the home... Y'all need to get out more,it is VERY commonplace....

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oz in sc | 08-19-2008 04:04 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Moon Rising (Post 1245460) Get the names of all persons that have been viewed your home from the Realtor and provide those to the police.
Our realtor has gotten the name of the realtor and I am waiting to hear back from the cop to give him the info... It all might be coincidence but better to follow up on such things.

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 04:05 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1245464) Remote chance, I know. If someone coming to see the house brought their kids with them, and they happened to wonder off and find the guns. Bad things could happen. Best to lock them up in the trunk of a car if you had to.
Last time I removed them,this was kind of VERY short notice and we were both running round trying to get the house ready....

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 04:07 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by Breaking_the_Bonds (Post 1245469) Before you buy more guns, please buy a quality gun safe and secure it from the inside (preferably to concrete) so it cannot be removed. http://common.csnstores.com/common/p.../SON1082_a.jpg We don't need criminals getting any more guns than they already have.a
Well the plan was we were to sell and leave....almost a year later here we are.:banghead: To be honest I will probably buy two pistols that will stay with us all the time and wait until we sell to buy anything else....although a Remington 870 is easy to conceal...

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 04:09 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Recon (Post 1245470) I just sold my house. Kept all the guns in the safe and put an old bedspread over the safe. I put file cabinets in front of it, so someone would have to work to even lift that bedspread to see what was under it. One idiot realtor left both the front and back doors unlocked when she left. Nothing happened but still.... I'm moving into an apartment and am leaving the safe in a friends basement loaded down. With enough time they can break into the safe but there's no way they can get it up the stairs fully loaded.
If/when we ever move,I have kind of planned a hidden room in the 'barn' we are going to be living in....it will be handy for all sorts of 'stuff':D My original plan was a 'root cellar' buried UNDER the barn with a trapdoor but reality and $$$ got in the way.

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 04:21 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Again the house is for sale,we honestly didn't think it would take almost a year....we HAD a place that was well hidden but it was removed when we renovated. Trust me,after this house the firearms will be well hidden. Lets hope ALL of you NEVER have gold/silver lying around or not locked up in a safe...

oz in sc | 08-19-2008 05:00 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Thanks there,yes I have been around on gun forums long enough to know how it works....

sneak | 08-19-2008 07:55 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Sorry to hear that. I hate a thief!

morganchaser | 08-19-2008 10:02 PM
Re: Guns stolen... Sucks man. Sorry to hear about that. It amazes me that there are thieves stupid enough to go after guns. The only value in a stolen gun I can see is selling it to a guy who sells them illegally for street price. I guess druggies probably trade them to dealers for drugs? No matter how you look at it it's shitty risk/return. It's easily identified stolen property that beacons cops every time you use it. :/ On the bright side: of all stolen property it's probably one of the most likely to get back, although no guarantee on what shape it would be in. Sounds like you did what you could. Above average diligence.(I have an AK in my car trunk as I speak) Shame about your neighborhood going to crap. Find the lowest class potential buyer or real estate agent and that's probably your thief. Maybe talk to a private detective? Finding a stolen gun should be easy for one of them. Hell: if you're in Oregon I'd be willing to give it a shot. Even if you're not, you can give me all the personal information you've got on your suspects via PM and I'll see what I can do. IE: Name, address, and phone number +trivia infos like what they do for a living ect.

MOD1 | 08-20-2008 01:48 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Very sorry for your loss. In '93 a co-worker had several of his firearms stolen. Fortunately, all but one shotgun was recovered and returned to him by the local police. The shotgun that was not returned was mutilated by the thieves. Good luck in getting them back. BTW, some police departments are not very cooperative or speedy in the return of firearms that are recovered, if you know what I mean. :smokin: Have a plan for such an event. Take care, Mod1

oz in sc | 08-20-2008 09:34 AM
Re: Guns stolen... I have had one firearm recovered by the police,it was a Ruger 9mm. They arrested some guys and it was stuck in the waist of his pants. Lots of wear but was still in working condition.

Worldmariner | 08-20-2008 10:13 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 1245146) Blame it on Putin and the commies...
Did you make sure to give the police the serial #'s so they could list th eguns as stolen? At least maybe when someone tries to sell one or gets arrested with one they will get flagged and immediately go to jail. Might be worth checking the local pawn shops also for firearms. Ask them if they have any pending pawns that will come due.

oz in sc | 08-20-2008 11:39 AM
Re: Guns stolen... Talked to the investigator, gave him what we know and he is calling the realtor to find more.... He happened to mention our insurance probably will only pay out a minimum and sure enough the most they will pay is $1000.... So this is turning into simply a wonderful experience...but you live and learn...if/when we buy more of anything,we will have a separate rider. Of course the insurance co. requires whatever it is to be appraised,which would then mean there is paperwork out there on exactly what you own.

C4talyst | 08-21-2008 03:37 PM
Re: Guns stolen... I had my Sig 226 stolen from me two years ago by a "friend" I had let stay with me while she got her life together. She traded it for a bag of heroin in Southeast D.C. A few months later the dealer's house was raided and my gun was recovered. I have it back now, basically good as new. I keep my gun inventory info in an excel spreadsheet along w/ photos...was a big help that time. I hope you see your guns again soon.

mick silver | 08-21-2008 04:12 PM
Re: Guns stolen... there no way in h''' would i leaves my guns out of a SAFE, BUY A SAFE. there only one gun out OF safe it my walk around gun but it alway close to me , in the house are out of the house , buy a SAFE

C4talyst | 08-21-2008 04:14 PM
Re: Guns stolen... I would need a lot of gun safes, or a large bank vault...I prefer to just dedicate a room in my house to them.

mick silver | 08-21-2008 04:17 PM
Re: Guns stolen... THEY MAKE SAFE DOORS for rooms basement a great place for a safe room

C4talyst | 08-22-2008 08:37 PM
Re: Guns stolen... I have an upgraded door, but frankly, once they're in your house, all bets are off. Nowadays you can setup cameras relatively inexpensively, along with motion detectors and lighting systems (and of course an alarm); it can make a difference.

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