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Scorpio | 06-12-2008 06:59 AM
for those that don't know, Form 4473 1 Attachment(s) here is link and what it is, http://www.atf.gov/forms/4473/ Quote:
Form 4473 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person purchases a firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun shop). The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, driver's license, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS.[citation needed] The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book". A dealer must keep this log the entire time they are in business and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4. If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual who is not a licensed dealer, the purchaser is not required in most states to complete a Form 4473, though some states force individual sellers to sell through dealers. These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed to private parties or government officials without a proper warrant.

PandaMonium | 06-12-2008 01:37 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Does anyone know what happens to these forms once the business closes and they are surrendered to the ATF? I thought that there was a law to prohibit the government from creating a database. Just curious since I know that several of my purchases were made at stores that no longer exist.

Big_Rob | 06-12-2008 02:12 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 LOL! I'm vaguely familiar with that form :D For real though, I heard somewhere that they are going to be putting that form online so its quicker to fill out.

JJ_ | 06-12-2008 03:12 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1143491) LOL! I'm vaguely familiar with that form :D For real though, I heard somewhere that they are going to be putting that form online so its quicker to fill out.
I thought the form was layered for carbon copies.... How they gonna do that?

mike77777 | 06-12-2008 03:40 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 4473 forms are to be mailed to a batf warehouse in maryland when the ffl holder ends business.

Big_Rob | 06-12-2008 04:06 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1143592) I thought the form was layered for carbon copies.... How they gonna do that?
I dont know. That's a good question though. I would assume they would have to print out a copy for their own records.

NINEX19 | 06-12-2008 04:28 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1143592) I thought the form was layered for carbon copies.... How they gonna do that?
IIRC my last two purchases did not have carbon copies, nor were they yellow. In the past I now seem to remember them as yellow and duplicates. Are they scanning them? Electronic storage is the next step to the database.

abrokencircle | 06-12-2008 04:29 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Mine have never come with carbon copies.

PandaMonium | 06-12-2008 04:41 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Quote:
Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1143635) 4473 forms are to be mailed to a batf warehouse in maryland when the ffl holder ends business.
Thanks mike, Curiosity got the better of me and I went to the atf website to learn more about this warehouse. I found the info below. Let's hope that if/when TSHTF, an act of god destroys this warehouse.:wink: GOING OUT OF BUSINESS ATF continues to receive inquires regarding the records to be surrendered upon permanent discontinuance of business by Federal firearms licensees. If the business is being discontinued completely, the licensed dealer is required, within 30 days, to forward his records to the ATF Out-of-Business Records Center Falling Waters, West Virginia 25419 The records consist of the licensee s bound acquisition/disposition (A/D) records, ATF Forms 4473, ATF Forms 5300.35 (Brady forms), ATF Forms 3310.4 (Multiple Sale), and records of transactions in semiautomatic assault weapons. If the licensee was granted a variance to use a computerized recordkeeping system, the licensee is required to provide a complete print-out of his entire A/D records. If someone is taking over the business, the original licensee will underline the final entry in each bound book, note the date of transfer, and forward all records and forms to the successor (who must apply for and receive his own license before lawfully engaging in business) or forward the records and forms to the ATF Out-of-Business Records Center. If the successor licensee receives records and forms from the original licensee, the successor licensee may choose to forward these records and forms to the ATF Out-of-Business Records Center. Failure to surrender the required records is an offense punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. A licensee discontinuing business must immediately notify the Firearms and Explosives Licensing Center in Atlanta, Georgia. http://www.atf.gov/pub/fflnews_pub/ffl0995.htm

AG Capone | 06-12-2008 04:41 PM
Re: for those that don't know, Form 4473 Know your local face to face marketplace: http://www.texasguntrader.com/

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