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Golddust | 07-01-2009 07:09 PM
July 1, 2009: Watch Lists, Guns and Government http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/tsra/header.gif July 1, 2009 TSRA Quick Links > Home Annual Meeting Join Legislative Info Links Services Watch Lists, Guns and Government from the Atlanta Journal Constitution http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/nr...Brief-icon.gifThe secret government �Terrorist Watch List,� reportedly already swelled to more than 1.1 million names, will have an addendum, if gun control advocates in Congress have their way. This new addendum -- also to be cloaked in secrecy -- would empower the U.S. Attorney General to deny a person the ability to exercise their Second Amendment rights to purchase a firearm. More GOP to Press Sotomayor on Gun Rights from the Los Angeles Times Senate Republicans said recently they would press Judge Sonia Sotomayor on gun rights, a politically divisive issue that they hope could weaken Democratic support for the Supreme Court nominee. Though Republicans are a pronounced minority in both the House and Senate, they have used the gun issue to their advantage to divert the legislative agenda, forcing Democrats from moderate and conservative states to take politically risky votes on gun provisions. More GAO Reports On Arms Trafficking In Mexico from NRA-ILA The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a report this week entitled, "Firearms Trafficking: U.S. Efforts to Combat Arms Trafficking to Mexico Face Planning and Coordination Challenges." Among other things, the report asserts that Mexican officials consider illicit firearms the number one crime problem affecting their country's security; that about 87 percent of firearms seized in Mexico and traced by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) in the last five years originated in the United States; and that these firearms are increasingly more powerful and lethal, including "high-caliber and high-powered" AK-47 and AR-15 type semi-automatic rifles. More Kentucky Pastor Welcomes Guns in Church from The Associated Press via MSNBC A gun-toting Kentucky pastor says it's OK to bring weapons to church -- at least for one day. Ken Pagano asked his flock to bring their unloaded handguns -- in holsters -- to New Bethel Church in Louisville, Ky., for a celebration of the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution that guarantees the right to bear arms. More Federal Agents Hunt for Guns, One House at a Time from the Houston Chronicle Success on the front lines of a government blitz on gunrunners supplying Mexican drug cartels with Houston weaponry hinges on logging heavy miles and knocking on countless doors. Dozens of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives � sent here from around the country � are needed to follow what ATF acting director Kenneth Melson described as a �massive number of investigative leads.� More TPWD Plans to Make Central Texas Dove Research More Organized from the Tyler Morning Telegraph The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department will be returning to Central Texas to continue its study looking at lead in dove, but this time the department promises to be a better neighbor. The agency created a ruckus last August when it started a research dove hunt in Brown County two days before other hunters flocked into the area for the Sept. 1 season opener. More

Worldmariner | 07-05-2009 11:29 PM
Re: July 1, 2009: Watch Lists, Guns and Government Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 1796747) http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/tsra/header.gif July 1, 2009 TSRA Quick Links > Home Annual Meeting Join Legislative Info Links Services Watch Lists, Guns and Government from the Atlanta Journal Constitution http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/nr...Brief-icon.gifThe secret government �Terrorist Watch List,� reportedly already swelled to more than 1.1 million names, will have an addendum, if gun control advocates in Congress have their way. This new addendum -- also to be cloaked in secrecy -- would empower the U.S. Attorney General to deny a person the ability to exercise their Second Amendment rights to purchase a firearm. More GOP to Press Sotomayor on Gun Rights from the Los Angeles Times Senate Republicans said recently they would press Judge Sonia Sotomayor on gun rights, a politically divisive issue that they hope could weaken Democratic support for the Supreme Court nominee. Though Republicans are a pronounced minority in both the House and Senate, they have used the gun issue to their advantage to divert the legislative agenda, forcing Democrats from moderate and conservative states to take politically risky votes on gun provisions. More GAO Reports On Arms Trafficking In Mexico from NRA-ILA The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a report this week entitled, "Firearms Trafficking: U.S. Efforts to Combat Arms Trafficking to Mexico Face Planning and Coordination Challenges." Among other things, the report asserts that Mexican officials consider illicit firearms the number one crime problem affecting their country's security; that about 87 percent of firearms seized in Mexico and traced by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) in the last five years originated in the United States; and that these firearms are increasingly more powerful and lethal, including "high-caliber and high-powered" AK-47 and AR-15 type semi-automatic rifles. More Kentucky Pastor Welcomes Guns in Church from The Associated Press via MSNBC A gun-toting Kentucky pastor says it's OK to bring weapons to church -- at least for one day. Ken Pagano asked his flock to bring their unloaded handguns -- in holsters -- to New Bethel Church in Louisville, Ky., for a celebration of the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution that guarantees the right to bear arms. More Federal Agents Hunt for Guns, One House at a Time from the Houston Chronicle Success on the front lines of a government blitz on gunrunners supplying Mexican drug cartels with Houston weaponry hinges on logging heavy miles and knocking on countless doors. Dozens of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives � sent here from around the country � are needed to follow what ATF acting director Kenneth Melson described as a �massive number of investigative leads.� More TPWD Plans to Make Central Texas Dove Research More Organized from the Tyler Morning Telegraph More
I recently heard a new phrase to describe what is happening here in America... "Liberal Facism". The liberal/socialist agenda being pushed and draconian laws giving The State the power to actually enforce the laws and "policies". I am reminded of Thomas Paine�s book �Common Sense� and also of new version by the same name written by a popular talk show host. I am not a fan of either CNN nor Fox; but I do watch both equally so as to get a better picture of what is happening in out political environment. The only way to combat this Socialist agenda and legislation is through politics. We need more people to write to their Member of Congress (that means your elected Representative to the House of Representatives. Their job is to listen to the citizenry) and their Senator. By "more people" I mean **YOU**, the reader. "You" need to register to vote, "You" need to write to your elected officials, "You" need to join pro-second amendment organizations, like the GOA and the NRA. "You" need to go to local government meetings and voice your opinions. Here are the links: www.Congress.org Member of Congress to the House of Representatives: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml Your Senator: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/f_two_sections_with_teasers/states.htm Your governor: http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Governors.shtml National Rifle Association: www.nra.org Gun Owners of America: www.gunowners.org Many many forum posters seem to be the paranoid wall flower "I don't want my name on a list! I am not even registered to vote!" types... They wring their hands about what is happening, but they want SOMEONE ELSE to do the dirty work and take a chance, speak up, write the letters, cast the votes, and yet reap the rewards. If you are one of these types, (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!) you need to remember this: If you have ever filled out a Form 4473, trust me, you are in a database. If you are a member of GOA or the NRA, trust me, you are in a database. If you have ever registered to vote, trust me, you are in a database. If you have a driver's license, trust me, you are in a database. If you use your SSN to earn income, trust me, you are in a database. If you ever used your credit card to buy gun parts or ammo, you are in a database. If you were ever in the military... well you get the idea... keyed in on your name and DOB. Cross referenced with your SSN. With the (undeclared and in my opinion unconstitutional) continuing "war" on terror, the Department of Homeland Security and Congress have teamed up and are finishing up the process of making all the local, state, and Federal databases cross-searchable and accessible by ANY agency, NO WARRENT, NO JUDGE, required. If you are too cowardly to stand up and be counted, to make your voice heard, what will you do with your gun when tyranny arrives? I mean, you already know that you are a coward, so what will you do? Take your super secret gun and go shoot someone in a blue helmet or a black Hummer? I think not. We know what you will do. YOU know, deep down, what you will do. You will whisper about the Good Ol Days and hope that "someone else" does something, while you let your super secret gun rust in it's super secret hiding place, and be angry and post angry messages on forums about how somebody "should have done something". (Pardon me a moment whilst I vomit) That "someone" is **YOU**. GET OFF YOUR ASS and start DOING something about it, and posting messages on forums is NOT action! It is talk. Being a member on a website like www.righttokeepandbeararms.com is nice, and well meaning, and a fantastic resource for ideas, BUT it is not TRUE ACTION; it is feel good action. Joining a website WILL NOT cause change. Writing letters and being politically active is what causes change. Best idea: Buy as many firearms as you want. Give them as gifts! Register as many SBR's and suppressors as you can, join EVERY pro gun lobby group you can, and learn how to start grass roots legislation. Urge your friends to get CCW permits and to buy guns, including assault rifles. Take them shooting and let them burn through a box of your ammo. Turn them on to firearms. Get them re-acquainted with personal responsibility. Get them going in the right direction. Turn America BACK INTO a gun culture and freedom culture and personal responsibility culture. THAT is how to beat DHS, Napolitano, Clinton, an increasing militarized police force (anyone else notice that trend??), other anti-firearms groups, and generally "The Fed". The Feds just follow the rules. If the rules change, so do they. They are like the Borg. They are guys, most... smart, but not brilliant. They are working away at a Federal retirement, doing their job. If the rules change tomorrow and allow everyone to own an unregistered suppressor, believe me, the hour the legislation passes, they will stop activity related to suppressors. Most of those ATF guys (that I know anyway) are not rabidly anti-gun. Most all of them own firearms themselves. They are just following the rules. They do not get cash bonuses for finding illegal guns, such as the IRS agents receive for "recovering" "lost" revenue from recalcitrant tax payers. (Everyone here knows that, right? The IRS guys get a slice of the recovered money as an "on the spot cash award". THAT is why the IRS guys are so rabid. They are motivated by greed) If you are offended by reading this post, then YOU are PROBABLY the guy this post is aimed at!

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