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UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 04:26 PM
Anyone get the Ruger Charger? I've been debating for "ages" between that and the 10//22... finally decided to go with the Charger: likely pick one up this coming week. My thinking: years and years ago, I had considered getting a 10/22, but finally decided it wasn't worth the trouble. Why? Well, what I thought would be the perfect modification for a standard 10/22 was to cut down the stock to a pistol grip, and cut the barrel down to 10"-12"... OOPS! NOT LEGAL!!! So, the Charger is the closest thing to a street-legal SBR without having to pay Big Brother $200.00 bucks for a tax stamp (and also going through the "approval"-finger-printing-etc process). I found that there's also an aftermarket threaded 12" barrel available for the Charger... options, options, options. :565: Any thoughts or comments? Any owners of the Charger out there? :15_1_70v:

elroy | 03-28-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? No good without a linky http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=4901&return=Y I was going to get one of these pistols for concealed carry but couldn't find a holster.:111:

St. Germain | 03-28-2009 05:45 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Not a fan. Doesn't suit my personal taste aesthetically - but I will reserve final judgment until after firing one. Please post your range opinion. ST

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 05:48 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy (Post 1650580) No good without a linky http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...=4901&return=Y I was going to get one of these pistols for concealed carry but couldn't find a holster.:111:
I was considering doing a concealed carry by positioning the Charger along the inside length of my left thigh... figure that would probably also get me a lot of attention from the ladies! :36_1_25:

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 05:51 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by St. Germain (Post 1650607) Not a fan. Doesn't suit my personal taste aesthetically - but I will reserve final judgment until after firing one. Please post your range opinion. ST
Will do... plan on getting it early this coming week... probably give it a "test run" next weekend... will let you all know how it plays out. :coolbeer: P.S. As for "personal taste aesthetically," I'm probably in agreement: don't think it's particularly attractive... but I'm not buying it for looks! *grin*

Usury | 03-28-2009 05:53 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? I've got one.... I was REALLY surprised at the recoil of the thing. Not that 22 makes much recoil, but the springs and action really throw-back and it moves around much more than I would have expected....enough that I personally find a normal handgun easier to keep on target for follow-up shot.

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 05:57 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by Usury (Post 1650626) I've got one.... I was REALLY surprised at the recoil of the thing. Not that 22 makes much recoil, but the springs and action really throw-back and it moves around much more than I would have expected....enough that I personally find a normal handgun easier to keep on target for follow-up shot.
I expect the recoil would be more like a rifle's than a pistol's... so, not surprised to read your comment. Also, saw a couple of clips on youtube of people shooting the Charger using the bi-pod. I noticed that gun kicked back quite a bit. Still, all in all, it's less recoil than firing #00 buck out of a shotgun. :wink:

Usury | 03-28-2009 06:41 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? True.... I really don't use it as it's not "fun" to shoot. LOOKS WAY COOL though. I suppose I could buy an aftermarket 10/22 stock and convert it to a rifle??? I haven't checked, but the action looks to be EXACTLY the same as a 10/22. Takes the same mags even.

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 06:52 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by Usury (Post 1650686) True.... I really don't use it as it's not "fun" to shoot. LOOKS WAY COOL though. I suppose I could buy an aftermarket 10/22 stock and convert it to a rifle??? I haven't checked, but the action looks to be EXACTLY the same as a 10/22. Takes the same mags even.
Yea, that's the BIG JOKE with gubberment restrictions.... The Charger and the 10/22 mechanicals are one and the same. You can "convert" the Charger into a rifle... that's ok with TPTB. But try to cut down a 10/22 to a pistol, and the SWAT team with be out in full force to stop you from your evil ways! ................. OOPS! I WAS WRONG! You CANNOT convert a charger into a rifle, unless you do the $200 tax stamp dealie.... HOW far can you go with the CHARGER? You have to keep the pistol stock on, and the overall length CAN NOT exceed 26". Since the pistol is 19-1/4 inches long... that gives you 6.75 of additional length... either for a 16.5 barrel, or a 10-inch barrel with a suppressor which does not exceed 6.75 inches in length. So, it has to stay a pistol-grip gun... and if you went with a longer barrel, then you likely would want to keep and use the bipod.

wallew | 03-28-2009 07:16 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by Usury (Post 1650626) I've got one.... I was REALLY surprised at the recoil of the thing. Not that 22 makes much recoil, but the springs and action really throw-back and it moves around much more than I would have expected....enough that I personally find a normal handgun easier to keep on target for follow-up shot.
Usury, Can you give us a little more detail? Is it an up and down movement? Or a general jumping around movement? Do you have a Harris Bipod attached? How about optics? Both of these attachments will add weight and make the pistol a little more stable. If it's a recoil up and down type of thing, a muzzle brake will resolve that. If it's something else, let me know. I might be able to help. Now, are the springs so weak that they allow things to move around a bunch? If so, a Wolf Spring set for a 10/22 might resolve that issue for about $20. While I realize that this is more money to spend, if you could end up with a Charger that was rock solid, didn't jump around and would punch out the ten ring every time and you could put the whole magazine inside the ten ring would it be worth your time? Let me know. I am very interested in this little piece. It seems to me that this might be a great platform to build up. Now, for a holster? ANY competent leather guy should be able to make one for you. This one SCREAMS for a jackass type rig to hang under one armpit or the other. You could carry two or three spare mags on the other side. It should not cost more than about $150 (half the price of the pistol).

Willie Peter | 03-28-2009 07:18 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by UncaScrooge (Post 1650539) I've been debating for "ages" between that and the 10//22... finally decided to go with the Charger: likely pick one up this coming week. My thinking: years and years ago, I had considered getting a 10/22, but finally decided it wasn't worth the trouble. Why? Well, what I thought would be the perfect modification for a standard 10/22 was to cut down the stock to a pistol grip, and cut the barrel down to 10"-12"... OOPS! NOT LEGAL!!! So, the Charger is the closest thing to a street-legal SBR without having to pay Big Brother $200.00 bucks for a tax stamp (and also going through the "approval"-finger-printing-etc process). I found that there's also an aftermarket threaded 12" barrel available for the Charger... options, options, options. :565: Any thoughts or comments? Any owners of the Charger out there? :15_1_70v:
Charger, you say? I used to have a model of one when I was a kid....:565: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8011/dodgecharger.jpg

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 07:31 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1650731) I am very interested in this little piece. It seems to me that this might be a great platform to build up. Now, for a holster? ANY competent leather guy should be able to make one for you. This one SCREAMS for a jackass type rig to hang under one armpit or the other. You could carry two or three spare mags on the other side. It should not cost more than about $150 (half the price of the pistol).
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY, Wallew! I think that the Charger has the potential to be a GREAT platform, with the capability to be "changed" from one configuration to another at will. Also, if you lose the bipod, I don't see making a holster for it a problem. Remember Steve McQueen in "Wanted Dead Or Alive" and his SBR lever gun? ... A spring-clip type of holster where you pull/slide it out instead of lifting it out... with a length that would basically go from hip to knee... I see no problem in that being made. Potential, potential, potential... and bottom line: it looks promising as is right out of the box!

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 07:32 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 1650736) Charger, you say? I used to have a model of one when I was a kid....:565: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8011/dodgecharger.jpg
I had a Dodge Dart with the slant six... does THAT qualify as "close enough"? :biggrin:

Willie Peter | 03-28-2009 07:39 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by UncaScrooge (Post 1650752) I had a Dodge Dart with the slant six... does THAT qualify as "close enough"? :biggrin:
A Dodge Dart..? you mean like this ... http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6007/dodgedart.jpg That's a Weinie mobile.....:111: Actually though Scrooge,,,I did have a '72 Dodge Dart at one time,...was practically indestructable http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9840/72dart.jpg

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 07:46 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 1650759) A Dodge Dart..? you mean like this ... http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6007/dodgedart.jpg That's a Weinie mobile.....:111:
Are you kidding me!? That's GROSS! Gag me with a spoon! I'm talking about the 4th generation Dart... sorta plain-jane understated... like this: functional, NOT gaudy like the one you posted! :wink:

UncaScrooge | 03-28-2009 07:48 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 1650759) A Dodge Dart..? Actually though Scrooge,,,I did have a '72 Dodge Dart at one time,...was practically indestructable http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9840/72dart.jpg
Yea, those were the good ones... and didn't look like crap! :ok:

Willie Peter | 03-28-2009 07:57 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by UncaScrooge (Post 1650767) Yea, those were the good ones... and didn't look like crap! :ok:
EH,...at the time, I hated it...lol certainly wasn't a chick magnet..lol

Usury | 03-28-2009 07:57 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1650731) Usury, Can you give us a little more detail? Is it an up and down movement? Or a general jumping around movement? Do you have a Harris Bipod attached? How about optics? Both of these attachments will add weight and make the pistol a little more stable. If it's a recoil up and down type of thing, a muzzle brake will resolve that. If it's something else, let me know. I might be able to help. Now, are the springs so weak that they allow things to move around a bunch? If so, a Wolf Spring set for a 10/22 might resolve that issue for about $20. While I realize that this is more money to spend, if you could end up with a Charger that was rock solid, didn't jump around and would punch out the ten ring every time and you could put the whole magazine inside the ten ring would it be worth your time? Let me know. I am very interested in this little piece. It seems to me that this might be a great platform to build up. Now, for a holster? ANY competent leather guy should be able to make one for you. This one SCREAMS for a jackass type rig to hang under one armpit or the other. You could carry two or three spare mags on the other side. It should not cost more than about $150 (half the price of the pistol).
To be honest with you, I didn't really play around with it that much. Where I was at the time didn't have a shooting bench and I didn't have a mat with me, so I didn't really lay it out on the bipod. It was kinda awkward to grip--too big really to hold like a pistol. I really need to go break it out and play with it somemore. I has the bipod and came with a 25 rd mag and cheap red dot scope.

smullen | 03-29-2009 02:18 AM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? The thing look neat, but what is its Nitche market or use??? I mean besides the obvious of shooting, whats it designed for??? I owning several 10/22s think it looks kind of neat, but don't really see a good use for it... Not saying I wouldn't own one, just most likely would not pay full retail for one... It seems kinda like my MAC-10... I'd get a decent deal on it, take it to the range 2-3 times to have a bit of fun with it, then it'd become a collecters gun and a Safe Queen...

UncaScrooge | 03-29-2009 09:15 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by smullen (Post 1651266) The thing look neat, but what is its Nitche market or use??? I mean besides the obvious of shooting, whats it designed for??? I owning several 10/22s think it looks kind of neat, but don't really see a good use for it... Not saying I wouldn't own one, just most likely would not pay full retail for one... It seems kinda like my MAC-10... I'd get a decent deal on it, take it to the range 2-3 times to have a bit of fun with it, then it'd become a collecters gun and a Safe Queen...
Fair question! Here are some of the thoughts roaming in my mind as I look to getting the Charger: 1 - with the longer barrel, accurate aiming is "easier." That being said, I expect to have the gun deadly accurate at 50 yards... with enough bang in the bullet to take down small varmints or turkeys (head shots). 2 - being a shorter barrel than a regular rifle or carbine, it's more "portable." It's easier to maneuver it in close quarters (whether indoors or in dense forest). And it would fit into a backpack or such. 2 - If you remove the bipod and have a strong wrist and steady arm, offhand shooting can get interesting in terms of range (see #1). 3 - getting an aftermarket 12" threaded barrel and a suppressor would make this a "neighborhood-friendly" hunting rifle. Getting a 5" aftermarket barrel and a suppressor: v-e-r-y---q-u-i-e-t. :bear_rolleyes: 4 - in the case of a 12" barrel with a suppressor (5"-6"), it's about as long as the 10/22 carbine barrel, but with a pistol grip instead of a shoulder stock, the overall length is still shorter... and using the bipod would compensate for the lack of a shoulder stock. But I also think just using the foregrip and properly positioning could "make up" for the lack of a shoulder stock. 5 - I'm thinking that with an EOTech 512, and the "re-configure" options the Charger offers, it makes for a versatile package. 6 - If I wanted a rifle, it just seems I'd rather get a Marlin 1894 or a Rossi 92 in 38/357... either of those would be a more "practical" use of the size which a rifle comes in. Well, those are my ambling thoughts and rationale behind it. Comments are welcome!!! :s1:

UncaScrooge | 04-08-2009 11:10 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Well, I went and DONE DID IT!!! :s9: I picked up a Ruger Charger, the plain vanilla one last week. No sense posting pics... they're all over the place. Haven't shot it yet though... but played with the bolt lock and magazine release to see how they worked: kind of STIFFand BALKY at first, but now they're getting friendly after having been worked a good bit of time. That being the case, I won't bother switching out the bolt hold lock. Why haven't I shot it yet? Well, I feel a need to have something decent to AIM with. That being the case, I just ordered an EOtech 512 for it tonight... and this is where it gets INTERESTING. Reading the Eotech 512 manual on their website, they state that their HWS easily fits onto a standard 1" (one inch) weaver or picatinny type rail. So...? Well, I kept eye-balling the rail that's on the Charger, and it just didn't seem an inch wide. Nope! It isn't! I rough measured it at 3/4 of an inch (0.75). Calling Ruger, they confirmed that the width was actually 0.803. So, I got to wondering: "is that one-inch-width deal nominal like in lumber???". SO THEN I called Eotech, and talked with them. TO make a long story short, a dozen or so phone calls all over the place (including two to Ruger and two to Eotech) established that I CAN NOT USE THE CHARGER RAIL AS A MOUNT FOR THE Eotech sight! The warranty guy at EoTech directed me to Brownell's to get an adaptor or some other solution to my dilemna. Well, GOOD NEWS! Since the receiver on the Charger is standard 10/22, I was able to pick up a Weigand Picatinny rail to swap out the Charger rail for. The drilled holes for the receiver on a 10/22 are standard, so that rail will fit just fine without gunsmithing or drilling. That solves that! I suspect the rail that comes with the Charger works just fine with scopes and bargain red dot sites... humph! Oh, besides the Eotech 512, I also ordered tonight the GG&G lens covers for it so's to keep it "sheltered." I should get those parts early next week... then time to sight the HWS in, and go to the range for some fine tuning... and then out to the sticks to rip a goodly amount of ammo in the country (personal property... no hassles). What's funny: the Eotech holoscope costs more than the gun! :111: The upside is: that sight can be used on more than just the Charger (thinking ahead, ya know... :wink:...). What's down the road for my little Ruger? Eventually I plan to pick up something like the Rimfire Technologies Quantum 8" threaded match barrel, and something like the OPS suppressor. Also, have my eye on getting some Tactical Innovations TI-25 25-round metal magazines. This is going to turn out to be one expensive 22...!!!! But, it still works better for me than a mini-14 or other .223 or .556 pieces... that's my personal "situation." I spent a lot of time doing a lot of homework on this little "project," and I think the end result is going to be "j-u-s-t f-i-n-e." Oh! And, no... I don't plan on painting the stock... I think... LOL!!! Any Chargers owners out there with their own experiences to share?

UncaScrooge | 04-08-2009 11:35 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by UncaScrooge (Post 1650699) Yea, that's the BIG JOKE with gubberment restrictions.... The Charger and the 10/22 mechanicals are one and the same. You can "convert" the Charger into a rifle... that's ok with TPTB. But try to cut down a 10/22 to a pistol, and the SWAT team with be out in full force to stop you from your evil ways! ................. OOPS! I WAS WRONG! You CANNOT convert a charger into a rifle, unless you do the $200 tax stamp dealie.... HOW far can you go with the CHARGER? You have to keep the pistol stock on, and the overall length CAN NOT exceed 26". Since the pistol is 19-1/4 inches long... that gives you 6.75 of additional length... either for a 16.5 barrel, or a 10-inch barrel with a suppressor which does not exceed 6.75 inches in length. So, it has to stay a pistol-grip gun... and if you went with a longer barrel, then you likely would want to keep and use the bipod.
JUST REPOSTING THIS SO THE RIGHT INFO IS OUT THERE. :36_3_12:

BeeYourself | 04-09-2009 12:55 AM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Sorry, but where is the gun? This is the bowling ball of guns. p.s. Nice '69 Let me know if its for sale.

UncaScrooge | 04-10-2009 08:09 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by UncaScrooge (Post 1669344) Well, I went and DONE DID IT!!! :s9: What's down the road for my little Ruger? Eventually I plan to pick up something like the Rimfire Technologies Quantum 8" threaded match barrel, and something like the OPS suppressor. Also, have my eye on getting some Tactical Innovations TI-25 25-round metal magazines. Oh! And, no... I don't plan on painting the stock... I think... LOL!!! Any Chargers owners out there with their own experiences to share?
YEP! This afternoon I said "What the heck!" Lucky me, it turns out that Shooter's Discount had gotten a shipment early in the morning, and the shipment included ONE (only 1) Rimfire Technologies 8" Quantum barrel. Well... ain't NOBODY has them for sale... been looking for weeks (which is why in an earlier post I said I was planning to get one). So, what could I do??? I HAD TO BUY IT!!! :10_1_20: Now it's down to waiting for the "stuff" I ordered for the Charger to arrive so that I can assemble it and start shooting. Also, I am now "OFFICIALLY POOR"!!! The suppressor ain't happening till this Fall at the soonest. The bill-collecting wolves are at the door, and I have to feed them first. OH... changed my mind... going to "repair" the bolt-release on the Charger after all. Though it's now behaving properly most of the time, it's still a pain in the butt. But instead of spending 15-20 bucks to buy an "auto bolt hold release", I'm just going to "massage" the one in my Charger, and do it myself. Sad to say, money is dear to me, but my time is CHEAP!!! :s1: OK OK OK... I'm breaking down! Picked up a semi-mint 10/22 stock for cheap, and intend to cut it down to a "pirate pistol" to slip my Charger receiver-etc into... two gun "personalities"... depending on my mood at that day. Yea, will see if my stupid digital camera (old, old, old) still works. I'll post pics of my "machine" when I get it semi-assembled (if I can get my camera to work). Meanwhile, I'd LOVE to see pics of other members' Chargers on here... <----is that a hint or what???? :36_1_25: You all have a GREAT EASTER!!!

UncaScrooge | 04-10-2009 09:00 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Hi BeeYourself... Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeYourself (Post 1669423) Sorry, but where is the gun? This is the bowling ball of guns. p.s. Nice '69 Let me know if its for sale.
Guess I'm kinda slow.... What do you mean by "this is the bowling ball of guns." I REALLY have no idea what you mean. :no_ma: You got some 'splaining to do"... please oblige. :wink:

UncaScrooge | 04-13-2009 10:36 AM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Here's a quickie update on what's happening with my Charger... Things are going slow! The Eotech 512 still hasn't arrived, meanwhile... Yesterday I decided to use up some 15-year-old Eley match target ammo I had lying around the house, just to get a feel for the recoil of the gun and such. IMHO, very light recoil... almost nonexistent. BUT... stovepipes! I had 30 rounds, in 3 magazines. I got about 6-8 stovepipes in the process of shooting off those bullets. Don't know if it was the ammo, or my shooting "limp-wristed," or an extractor issue, or just "breaking in" of a new Ruger. While waiting for the holosight to arrive, I'm going to run some CCI standard velocity and CCI sub-sonic ammo to see how they behave. Worst cases, if I keep getting stovepipes, I'll likely replace the extractor, and see if that solves the problem. ANYONE DO THIS? Speaking of solving problems... I changed my mind. I was going to leave the bolt-hold release the way it came from the factory, but after my experience with the Eley rounds, and having to work the bolt "in the field" instead of in the comfort of my home on a desk, I came to realize it's a pain in the butt! So, I pulled out the bold hold release, drilled/filed the "hook" off, and now I don't have to press the stupid thing to release the bolt... just pull it back and release it... IT'S GREAT! Any others do this? Did some of you do it by buying a ready-made replacement? As always, comments are invited. I'd appreciate any info on functional mods that Charger users have done. Hopefully, come next week, I'll have the sight mounted, and begin checking out the accuracy of the factory barrel. Laters... :553:

UncaScrooge | 04-13-2009 06:35 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? "I'm so excited... I just can't hide it... I'm about to lose control and I think I like it!" GOOD NEWS! Dropped by my brother's place to further test my Charger... still without the Eotech or any other sight. Brought along 3 magazines... 2 with CCI standard velocity, and I mag with CCI sub-sonic. We sighted and fired the gun like you would a shotgun... great results! BUT BEST OF ALL: first... loading the mags was a lot easier! Last week, I loaded the mags with my 15-year-old ELEY rounds... was REALLY HARD getting the bulets in! They stood inside the mag for 4-5 days before I fired them this Sunday (I already posted about the stovepipes). Well... first of all: the mags loaded MUCH easier... guess they were "stiff" because of being new. Second: NO STOVEPIPES!!! WE first shot off two mags (20 rounds) of the CCI standard velocity... which I figured should be a safe bet. Yep... they were.... no problems. THEN: I did a mag with the CCI sub-sonic, figuring that, if anything, they would stovepipe on me because of their lower velocity. They ran SMOOTH! So, guess it was either the OLD Eley bullets, or the gun/mag being stiff from being brand new. Looks like I won't have to swap out the extractor, or do anything else! :565: HEY! WHAT's UP??? How about sharing experiences? OR am I the only Charger owner on this forum???????????????? :36_1_25: Though I see a lot of people have been reading, THERE AIN'T BEEN ANY POSTS! What's up with that? TALK TO ME!!!! :36_3_16:

ruprick | 04-15-2009 11:00 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Any more range time with the Charger? A lot of these blow-back guns like high velocity ammo. Eley Tenex did you say? Super $$$$ ammo. I shoot a lot of 22LR in a Walther GSP target pistol...and tested a lot of ammo.....I simply love CCI Standard Velocity and CCI Pistol Match. Outstanding results at 50 years. Tell us how your project is comming along.

Bill843 | 04-16-2009 03:13 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? I think the Charger is interesting, but I don't need another 22LR. In some types of air-pistol sihlouette shooting the rules don't specify what style of gun or shooting position to use. A lot of people who competed gravitated towards a Crosman CO2 pistol with a 10-14 inch barrel and an oversize CO2 tank. (So many people in the sport tried this, that Crosman finally brought out a long-barrel pistol model just for that reason) They even used air-rifle scopes on these air pistols, as the selection of rifle scopes has always been far better than the variety of air pistol scopes available, and the freedom of shooting position allowed using the riflescopes easily. Their argument was that if you were always allowed to shoot off a rest, then the matter of lugging around a full riflestock was rather superfluous. The Charger is a 22LR version of that same concept. It's too big to shoot offhand, but if you're always free to shoot off some kind of a rest, that's not a disadvantage. The Charger is lighter and easier to carry than a rifle, but very probably, nearly as accurate. -end-

UncaScrooge | 04-17-2009 07:36 PM
Re: Ruger Charger? Snail's Pace "Progress Report" Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1679747) Any more range time with the Charger? A lot of these blow-back guns like high velocity ammo. Eley Tenex did you say? Super $$$$ ammo. I shoot a lot of 22LR in a Walther GSP target pistol...and tested a lot of ammo.....I simply love CCI Standard Velocity and CCI Pistol Match. Outstanding results at 50 years. Tell us how your project is comming along.
I doubt I'll be getting more Eley ammo in the future... something to do with cost! :wink: I've hardly had a chance to put my Charger to use yet, but did a little testing. The Eotech holographic weapon sight arrived finally, and I installed it on the gun. For those who want to know about the sight: http://www.eotech-inc.com/product.php?id=9&cat=4 AMAZING FACTOID: with the bipod, the Eotech sight, and a loaded magazine, the Charger weighs in around 5 to 5-1/2 POUNDS!!! :36_1_25: It's like a lightweight rifle! Well, the upside is: almost nonexistent recoil when shooting off the bipod. And, what's more: makes for a stable platform for offhand shooting, believe it or not! Oh, just to round out the "weight" issue: with the sight and the bipod removed, it's light enough and usable one-handed if you have a strong wrist and arm. I only put a little over 100 rounds or so through it so far... besides using up my old Eley's, I've been using CCI standard velocity ammo and the CCI sub-sonic hollowpoints. Both types of ammo function flawlessly in the factory barrel. As for the sight, I only had time and occasion to sight it in at 7 yards a couple of days ago... target results: one ragged hole, dead center, no flyers. This afternoon, I had a bit of time to re-sight it for 17- 18 yards...roughly fifty+ feet... (about as good as my old eyes can handle without a scope... this is with an eye to turkey head shots and varmint shooting). I had to stop before I finished the process, but have the Charger shooting 1" holes about one inch diagonally off center, up and to the right (FYI, I am left-handed... that likely is the answer to the "to the right" part... I suspect fatigue). This weekend I should get it sighted "spot on" at 18 yards, and expect to get the groups down to 1/2"-3/4" (dime-to-quarter size). (I should mention the Eotech is very nice, wide range of adjustment on the brightness of the dot... and the dimmer the dot, the smaller it is... so it's a perfect daytime sight). So, the factory barrel seems really promising right out of the box! Some people have been getting 1/2" groups out to 50 yards with no problem with the factory barrel (scoped, naturally). Oh... should also mention: NO FLYERS! But that's likely more a matter of the quality of the ammo. The Rimfire Technologies Quantum 8" barrel (matte black) arrived yesterday: http://www.rimfiretechnologies.com/P...de=CH%2DBarrel It's threaded (1/2 x 28 x .400), which means it's good to go for a suppressor (which will add another 5 inches or so to the overall length)... but that's months and months away (budgetary issues). At any rate, it'll be a few weeks at the least before I install the Quantum barrel on my Charger. Why? This is where it gets interesting.... Bottom line, I have about 1300 rounds or so of the CCI standard velocity and CCI sub-sonic hollowpoint ammo... and I have "concerns" about whether it will work with the Quantum barrel. The Quantum is a match barrel, with tighter tolerances than a factory Ruger barrel; and CCI ammo is well-established as being a bit "over-sized" (which is actually an advantage when used with a factory barrel). I emailed with the owner of Rimfire Technologies, and he told me that they use the Wolf Match Target ammo to test their barrels for accuracy before they OK them for sale. He DID say they've been "massaging" the barrel to make it more accepting of different ammo, though... and feedback from customers is that the barrel handles all kinds of ammo pretty well... just call me "paranoid and overly-cautious" *grin*. At any rate, I picked up a thousand rounds of the Wolf Match Target, and that's what I'll use at first in the Quantum. Trying to fit the two types of CCI bullets, compared to fitting the Wolf bullet, into the barrel, there's an obvious difference in how deep the bullets will go... you don't need a magnifying glass or calipers to see and know it. So, I'll "break" in the Quantum barrel (when the time comes) with the Wolf rounds, and THEN see how the CCI sub-sonic's behave. "Ultimately," I hope to use the CCI sub-sonic's as my "standard" ammo of choice: cheaper than the wolf (and the CCI sub-sonics are hollow-points vs. the Wolf's which are solid round nose), and quiet enough to take full advantage of what a suppressor offers. If the CCI sub-sonics wind up giving me trouble, I'll just stick with the Wolf ammo. But as I may have mentioned earlier... the CCI subsonic performs flawlessly in the factory barrel. As for the delay in installing the Quantum barrel: want to get a proper torque wrench... sheesh! Even THAT costs money!!! But I figure, if I'm going to all this trouble to make a decent rig, may as well do it all properly, and not depend on "feels or looks good enough to me" for my work. Tomorrow, I'll FINALLY look around the house to see if I can find the battery charger for my Digital Camera. If I find it, I'll post pics of how my gun looks like at this stage. Fact is, I'm getting to like the looks of it. OH!!! I also bought the GG&G lens covers for the Eotech... the product looks cool and works great! Easy install! http://www.gggaz.com/index.php?id=58 Sorry I don't have more news to report... things are going S-L-O-W-! Hopefully, will have pics to post later this weekend. Meanwhile... everyone is invited to post pics of THEIR Charger! :553:

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UncaScrooge | 04-20-2009 04:12 AM
Time for some pictures :) 3 Attachment(s) Well, I finally managed to recharge my camera, and decided to at least post something in the way of pics. I had time to load up the Charger and shoot it some more in order to get my Eotech sighted in a bit better. I was using CCI standard velocity, the target was 50 feet away (the outside diameter of the circles is 1", the inside diameter of the circles is 13/16"). After doing two 5-shot groups, I figured "that's good enough for now!" :wink: So, without further ado, let me introduce you to my Charger... not much to look at now, but it's going to be "BUILT FOR THE FUTURE"!!!! (a great song by The Fixx!) P.S. I'll post more pics of the gun and "accessories" in a couple of days. :)

UncaScrooge | 04-28-2009 08:53 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? 1 Attachment(s) This is a s-l-o-w update on progress on my baby. :9536: Still haven't had a chance to check out accuracy at 25 yards, but at 17 yards (50 feet) it just tears a ragged hole... the turkeys I know like to hang out at about that distance... and if the Charger delivers (as it should) at 25 yards, then I won't be buying anymore at the local supermarket! :5_1_120: Besides, I hear tell "range-free-WILD" turkey tastes a lot different than farm-bred turkey... organic or not. I had picked up a mint 10/22 carbine stock recently... someone had bought a 10/22 carbine and immediately turned around and bought a new fancy-dancy stock for it. So, he put up the factory stock for sale, and I helped him out. Why did I do it? Just so's I could cut it down to a PIRATE PISTOL STOCK for my baby!!! I sanded it clear, stained it minwax "botanical green," and started putting tung oil on it. I'm on the third coat now... likely will go 10 -12 coats (24 hours between each coat) before I let the tung oil cure completely for an additional week or so. Here's a pic of it hanging on a steel rod. (I had to rotate the camera to take this pick, so everything in the background is sorta sideways... *grin*). ANY CHARGER CUSTOMIZERS WANNA POST A PIC??? Here's the "replacement" stock:

TechGuy | 04-28-2009 08:59 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by UncaScrooge (Post 1650764) Are you kidding me!? That's GROSS! Gag me with a spoon! I'm talking about the 4th generation Dart... sorta plain-jane understated... like this: functional, NOT gaudy like the one you posted! :wink:
Loved the darts... ultimate sleeper car. Had lots of friends that took the slant six out and put in a hopped up 318. Plenty of room in the engine bay, easy to work on. Low profile.. VERY fast.

ruprick | 04-28-2009 09:14 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Awesome. Still think you should get a carbine full stock just for fun and have a really short barreled rifle to play with at home. I have a tip for your old eyes.......use an adjustable shooting iris on your glasses: http://www.championshooters.com/blinder.htm By looking through a very small hole your eye will have infinite depth of field.....everything will be in focus....both close and distant....but at the cost of reduced light level. You can experiment by using a business card and punching a small hole with a nail and tape to your glasses....have someone help to get in correct location when in shooting position....just use scotch tape to hold in place. Try various size holds to get it right. You will be amazed at how it helps out the old eyes. Also use a small piece of opaque tape as an occluder for the non shooting eye....lets you shoot with both eyes open. It is a matter of physics.

JJ_ | 04-28-2009 09:17 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1698975) Loved the darts... ultimate sleeper car. Had lots of friends that took the slant six out and put in a hopped up 318. Plenty of room in the engine bay, easy to work on. Low profile.. VERY fast.
challenger guy myself.. Great lines on that car:rofl:

Drumblebum | 04-28-2009 09:24 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? I saw a Charger just like that one (grey) at a gun shop in Oregon last week. You can't buy those (legally) in California... If I were able I would have bought it on the spot.

UncaScrooge | 04-28-2009 09:41 PM
Re: TOTALLY COOL! EYEPIECE! Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1698991) Awesome. Still think you should get a carbine full stock just for fun and have a really short barreled rifle to play with at home. I have a tip for your old eyes.......use an adjustable shooting iris on your glasses: http://www.championshooters.com/blinder.htm By looking through a very small hole your eye will have infinite depth of field.....everything will be in focus....both close and distant....but at the cost of reduced light level. You can experiment by using a business card and punching a small hole with a nail and tape to your glasses....have someone help to get in correct location when in shooting position....just use scotch tape to hold in place. Try various size holds to get it right. You will be amazed at how it helps out the old eyes. Also use a small piece of opaque tape as an occluder for the non shooting eye....lets you shoot with both eyes open. It is a matter of physics.
Saves me the cost of buying a scope for "those special times" :wink: I've heard of that "pinhole trick" for sharper focus... this looks like it's based on that principle. As for an SBR..... I'm actually thinking of picking up a 10/22... not only to have a 22lr rifle, but also for the reason you mentioned. I had tried throwing the Charger receiver and barrel into the carbine stock before I cut it down for my pistol... and it only took cutting off 1-1/2 inches from the fore-end to have the barrel end clear the stock... looked cool and handled nicely! BUT OF COURSE I WOULDN'T DO SUCH A TERRIBLE THING ON A PERMANENT BASIS, WOULD I??? BTW, took two better pictures of the stock... will post them in a sec. :23_30_104:

UncaScrooge | 04-28-2009 09:45 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? 2 Attachment(s) Here are two better pics of my Pirate Stock In Progress... :signs1:

EE_ | 04-28-2009 09:51 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? You can do some pretty cool things with these. They are like a very compact rifle and should be easy to sling for carry Here's a few sites to peruse. Nice billet aluminum stock. http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...EE/charger.jpg http://www.rbprecision.com/id120.htm http://www.mizzoumuleguns.com/id58.html http://www.hi-desertdog.com/index.ph...&productId=224 http://www.hi-desertdog.com/index.ph...ewCat&catId=12 http://www.gunblast.com/TacSol-Charger.htm

UncaScrooge | 04-28-2009 10:25 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1699071) You can do some pretty cool things with these. They are like a very compact rifle and should be easy to sling for carry Here's a few sites to paruse. Nice billet aluminum stock. http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...EE/charger.jpg http://www.rbprecision.com/id120.htm http://www.mizzoumuleguns.com/id58.html http://www.hi-desertdog.com/index.ph...&productId=224 http://www.hi-desertdog.com/index.ph...ewCat&catId=12 http://www.gunblast.com/TacSol-Charger.htm
A body can go broke just playing with the Charger possibilities... LOL! I've got a Rimfire Technologies 8" threaded Quantum barrel headed my way (bought it from Shooter's Discount, then wound up sending it to RM to "massage" it a bit... should have it back in a week or so). I think the gun has a LOT OF POTENTIAL! They even have 14" barrels available for it! :36_1_25: Though I hear tell folks can match or beat the standard carbines with the factory 10" barrel... seems Ruger paid attention to that. Wouldn't mind picking up a "proper" receiver... lots to choose from... sigh. All it takes is $$$$$... :cry1: But then, I still have getting a Marlin 1894c in 38/357 on my wish list... there's only so much money to go around. Hmmm... wonder what I'll do! :confused_m:

UncaScrooge | 04-28-2009 10:49 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? [QUOTE=EE_;1699071]You can do some pretty cool things with these. They are like a very compact rifle and should be easy to sling for carry Here's a few sites to paruse. http://www.mizzoumuleguns.com/id58.html Just so's you'd know, EE... I picked up the last FOREST GREEN TI 25-round aluminum mag from Dennis a few minutes ago. Was tormenting myself over a week about buying, especially since he seems to be the only one around in this country to have any. He has 5-6 of the black-matte alum mags, and a couple of silver ones... and some of the composite mags. When you posted him as a "site" to check out, you SCARED ME INTO CALLING HIM UP AND ORDERING THE FOREST GREEN MAG!!! :111: If he has any left next week, I might pick up a couple more of the black ones.... hope no one reads this post! :36_1_34: :s1: Niters!

EE_ | 04-28-2009 11:54 PM
Re: Anyone get the Ruger Charger? [quote=UncaScrooge;1699147] Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1699071) You can do some pretty cool things with these. They are like a very compact rifle and should be easy to sling for carry Here's a few sites to paruse. http://www.mizzoumuleguns.com/id58.html Just so's you'd know, EE... I picked up the last FOREST GREEN TI 25-round aluminum mag from Dennis a few minutes ago. Was tormenting myself over a week about buying, especially since he seems to be the only one around in this country to have any. He has 5-6 of the black-matte alum mags, and a couple of silver ones... and some of the composite mags. When you posted him as a "site" to check out, you SCARED ME INTO CALLING HIM UP AND ORDERING THE FOREST GREEN MAG!!! :111: If he has any left next week, I might pick up a couple more of the black ones.... hope no one reads this post! :36_1_34: :s1: Niters!
High quality stuff! I don't know of any other manufacturer that make them.

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