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Aquaponics08 | 09-23-2009 01:41 AM
California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Email from Cabela's: To: Cabela's California Customers From: Cabela's Communications Subject: California Assembly Bill 962 Date: Sept. 22, 2009 We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products. On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote. Among other regulations, AB 962 would: � Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition. � Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a vendor or employee. � Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes: � The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee. � The date of the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued. � The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred. � The purchaser's or transferee's signature. � The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number. � The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth. The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law. If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit http://gov.ca.gov/interact We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California. To: Cabela's California Customers From: Cabela's Communications Subject: California Assembly Bill 962 Date: Sept. 22, 2009 We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products. On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote. Among other regulations, AB 962 would: � Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition. � Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a vendor or employee. � Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes: � The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee. � The date of the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued. � The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred. � The purchaser's or transferee's signature. � The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number. � The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth. The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law. If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit http://gov.ca.gov/interact We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California. To: Cabela's California Customers From: Cabela's Communications Subject: California Assembly Bill 962 Date: Sept. 22, 2009 We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products. On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote. Among other regulations, AB 962 would: � Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition. � Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a vendor or employee. � Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes: � The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee. � The date of the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued. � The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred. � The purchaser's or transferee's signature. � The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number. � The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth. The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law. If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit http://gov.ca.gov/interact We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California. To: Cabela's California Customers From: Cabela's Communications Subject: California Assembly Bill 962 Date: Sept. 22, 2009 We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products. On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote. Among other regulations, AB 962 would: � Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition. � Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a vendor or employee. � Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes: � The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee. � The date of the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued. � The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred. � The purchaser's or transferee's signature. � The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number. � The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth. The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law. If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit http://gov.ca.gov/interact We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California. To: Cabela's California Customers From: Cabela's Communications Subject: California Assembly Bill 962 Date: Sept. 22, 2009 We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products. On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote. Among other regulations, AB 962 would: � Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition. � Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a vendor or employee. � Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes: � The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee. � The date of the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued. � The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred. � The purchaser's or transferee's signature. � The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction. � The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number. � The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth. The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law. If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit http://gov.ca.gov/interact We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California.

mick silver | 09-23-2009 01:53 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed yep let me know how that work out with all the gangs out there

Big Country | 09-23-2009 01:57 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed I think you hit ctrl+v 4 too many times...

illuminate10 | 09-23-2009 02:01 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed I got the same email this morning, from another forum(for California) that I frequent though. I still gotta get back to them about helping to "combat"(:biggrin:) this. Now I'm having second thoughts on selling some of my ammo.

45 ACP | 09-23-2009 02:06 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by illuminate10 (Post 1935514) I got the same email this morning, from another forum(for California) that I frequent though. I still gotta get back to them about helping to "combat"(:biggrin:) this. Now I'm having second thoughts on selling some of my ammo.
Do not sell your ammo. Only reason to sell ammo is having to do it to feed yourself.

Real Money Now | 09-23-2009 02:16 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Just what we fu*king need in the midst of California's worst economic crisis ever, ANOTHER costly and useless (let alone unconstitutional) program. If you wish to oppose this, follow these instructions courtesy of CalGuns.net: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1&postcount=10 Step 1: Call 916-445-2841 (Schwarzenegger's Phone) Step 2: Press 1 for English. Step 3: Press 2 for commenting on a bill on the Governor�s desk Step 4: Press 2 for AB962 Step 5: Press 2 for Oppose Hang Up Normally, I don't recommend bothering with contacting government officials, but Schwarzenegger actually might veto this due to cost and heavy opposition.

mrnhtbr2232 | 09-23-2009 08:11 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Sent an email, called the number. The incrementalism here in the Golden State is like the plague. Not to mention it's almost a safety hazard having thousands of rounds stacked up here there and everywhere. It would be so much easier to buy on the fly. But then, California breeds bad politicians like weeds grow in ditches.

The Argent Dragon | 09-23-2009 10:14 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition.
STOP right there Commiefornia.........that's un-American :rant: :banghead: :thumpdown :36_1_28:

renegade_01 | 09-23-2009 12:25 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED "YAY" NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED AND "HANDLED" ACCORDINGLY.

MarinePride | 09-23-2009 01:01 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed The CA state legislature just keeps pushing, to no avail, against the law abiding people out there. I moved out of there in 2005 because the quality of life in CA seemed to get worse every year. I think anyone who is worth saving should consider getting out of that state. The only future it has are higher taxes, earth quakes, more congested commutes, more illegals bankrupting the state and more gun laws to oppress the law abiding.

Lucky225 | 09-23-2009 01:13 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed did my part. hope it actually makes a difference!!!

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 09-23-2009 02:13 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed **** this, I'm running for California Senate on the Libertarian Platform.

compass | 09-23-2009 02:17 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by MarinePride (Post 1936166) I moved out of there in 2005 because the quality of life in CA seemed to get worse every year. I think anyone who is worth saving should consider getting out of that state.
I've had the same thoughts myself, but isn't this running away from the problem with the hope that it won't get this bad somewhere else? Isn't california the front line of this crap which should be defeated here instead of waiting till it infects the rest of the states?

compass | 09-23-2009 02:18 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian (Post 1936276) **** this, I'm running for California Senate on the Libertarian Platform.
You have my vote!

Abouthadit | 09-23-2009 02:59 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed How do those butt wipes keep getting elected? What is wrong with the voters? Nevermind. I don't care.

Twisted Avatar | 09-23-2009 05:01 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Your opinion on that matter will fall on deaf ears ...........The Gubbernator will do as he is told Ammo is to be treated just like Silver Buy till you cant afford it or find it. T

Real Money Now | 09-23-2009 07:16 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1936350) How do those butt wipes keep getting elected? What is wrong with the voters? Nevermind. I don't care.
The spic who wrote this bill is elected based on his race. You Tube
You Tube

Tallships | 09-23-2009 07:37 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed The black market will fill peoples needs and the state will get less tax money. Looks like nobody really needs to smash commiefornia, as it is smashing itself all on its own. Commiefornias checklist: Screw the farmers .... check. Kill business and commerce ..... check. Make life safer for rapists and thieves.... check...

AurumAg | 09-23-2009 09:25 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed I am a fifth generation California native, and I am not willingly leaving my home-state. I left a message for the Gubernator.

MarinePride | 09-24-2009 12:30 AM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by compass (Post 1936278) I've had the same thoughts myself, but isn't this running away from the problem with the hope that it won't get this bad somewhere else? Isn't california the front line of this crap which should be defeated here instead of waiting till it infects the rest of the states?
CA is a lost state in many ways. I can never see the power shifting back in the favor of gun owners or the 2nd Amendement. The oppressive firearms laws were just one of many reasons why I got out. CA is falling ever so slowly, as will the rest of the country. When it gets really, really bad I would not want to be in the LA basin.

AurumAg | 09-24-2009 01:50 PM
Re: California Pistol Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by MarinePride (Post 1937271) CA is a lost state in many ways. I can never see the power shifting back in the favor of gun owners or the 2nd Amendement. The oppressive firearms laws were just one of many reasons why I got out. CA is falling ever so slowly, as will the rest of the country. When it gets really, really bad I would not want to be in the LA basin.
When things are really, really good I would not want to be in the LA basin. NorCal and the State of Jefferson!

leadfoot | 09-24-2009 09:03 PM
Re: California Ammunition Restrictions Proposed Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1936118) THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED "YAY" NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED AND "HANDLED" ACCORDINGLY.
This bill will be another slap in the face to citizens. Some day, hopefully, they will get tired of being slapped around. Why not vote yes and speed the journey along to it's inevitable destination?

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