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I am me, I am free | 10-04-2009 04:52 AM
922(r) compliance no longer an issue? I was looking at Classic Arms' site and I'm seeing imported AK underfolders and sidefolders, yet nothing about 922(r) compliance. What am I missing?

Doge | 10-04-2009 08:50 AM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? The longer we allow ourselves to follow unconstitutional laws, the longer we continue our slavery. I agree with wildcard, if you want it, get it and/or build it.

eat_beef | 10-04-2009 09:16 AM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? 922r is about impportation, not ownership. That said, the law is, as always, vague enough that they could change their interpretation at any time. I haven't seen the rifles in question, but my guess would be that either they are 922 compliant, or have been sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Century does a lot of parts swapping to make 'em compliant, my guess is that's where Classic is getting them, but Classic could be doing it themselves.

The Argent Dragon | 10-04-2009 01:43 PM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1953971) I haven't seen the rifles in question, but my guess would be that either they are 922 compliant, or have been sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Century does a lot of parts swapping to make 'em compliant, my guess is that's where Classic is getting them, but Classic could be doing it themselves.
Agreed.........I think the AK is comprised of 16 parts where only 6 need to be US compliant. The easiest and most common is as follows: Buttstock, forestock, and handle = 3 parts Gas piston = 1 part Barrel = 1 part Trigger or Hammer = 1 part TOTAL : 6 parts US made is 922r compliant **That said, I've read that ATF agents do not try to enforce this on individuals. They're more interested in the weapons manufacturer. Also, when it comes to a personal weapon - it must only fire once when pulling the trigger (except Title III registered arms). ~AD

CQC McDuck | 10-04-2009 02:10 PM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1954199) Agreed.........I think the AK is comprised of 16 parts where only 6 need to be US compliant. The easiest and most common is as follows: Buttstock, forestock, and handle = 3 parts Gas piston = 1 part Barrel = 1 part Trigger or Hammer = 1 part TOTAL : 6 parts US made is 922r compliant **That said, I've read that ATF agents do not try to enforce this on individuals. They're more interested in the weapons manufacturer. Also, when it comes to a personal weapon - it must only fire once when pulling the trigger (except Title III registered arms). ~AD
The AK's trigger group counts for 3 parts (hammer, trigger, disconnecter) alone. I think most of the ones that Classic sell have a tapco trigger group and US made receivers and/or barrels.

Haltiat | 10-04-2009 07:49 PM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? 922(r) and its interpretation seem ripe for challenge to me. The receiver and receiver alone is the firearm, this has a long established legal precedent. If your receiver is US made then your firearm is US made. How many contradictory laws can you have at the same time? As far as any specific firearm goes you should call if you're concerned. I forget who it was but during the ban somebody or other was importing rifles with threaded barrels and non-permanently mounted muzzle brakes. It resulted in a recall. Century US made trigger groups have resulted in a recall too, but after all it is Century. How are these people still in business?

The Argent Dragon | 10-04-2009 07:59 PM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltiat (Post 1954596) 922(r) and its interpretation seem ripe for challenge to me. The receiver and receiver alone is the firearm, this has a long established legal precedent. If your receiver is US made then your firearm is US made. How many contradictory laws can you have at the same time?
eXcellent point........since ALL other items are non-FFL purchases. Perhaps this is why the BATFE doesn't care to enforce 922r compliance on individuals. Their concern is on SBR's (not registered) and firearms that 'double tap' or go full auto and unregistered. Like was mentioned before, has anyone every been fined or had their weapon confiscated for 1-part less that's not compliant (US MADE) ? If we really want to muddy the waters, we get into Self Builds where you gather all the parts to produce your own weapon. Are the parts US made, US altered, etc ??? Let's say you take a foreign part and modify it in your machine shop.........does that not make it US ? We can keep dragging this out further but I believe the RECEIVER argument is best. The RECEIVER is the FIREARM since it requires an FFL transfer........end of story. I don't care what the hell you attach to it ! Kudos Haltiat for your observation. :coolbeer: ~AD

I am me, I am free | 10-04-2009 08:40 PM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1953971) 922r is about impportation, not ownership. That said, the law is, as always, vague enough that they could change their interpretation at any time. I haven't seen the rifles in question, but my guess would be that either they are 922 compliant, or have been sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Century does a lot of parts swapping to make 'em compliant, my guess is that's where Classic is getting them, but Classic could be doing it themselves.
Considering that earlier this year that AKs could not be found at any price I'm guessing these are recent imports. Considering the way they are packaged, some of these rifles appear to be 100% Romy.

eat_beef | 10-05-2009 12:01 AM
Re: 922(r) compliance no longer an issue? I checked the site, they're all Century imports, and will have the appropriate US parts. You can cross reference w/ Century's site if you like. Classic just didn't spell out the 922 issue on most of their items.:wavey:

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