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mkinla | 11-06-2008 05:38 PM
Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Got my 500 rounds of American Eagle 7.62x.39 today. Once I get my rifle I'll use this stuff to break her in, then I'll switch to cheaper Russian stuff....:wink: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4...kylookyxw9.jpg

budfox | 11-06-2008 05:41 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... TA will be proud of you!:111:

The Argent Dragon | 11-06-2008 05:43 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... AWESOME ! :s9:

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 05:43 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Fiocchi is just as good and cheaper too Cheaper than dirt had a good sale running for a long time I litterally just bought the last of it because now it saying its out of stock Good stuff if you can find it. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 05:59 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by budfox (Post 1402116) TA will be proud of you!:111:
As a pig in shyt:biggrin:

Tn...Andy | 11-06-2008 07:12 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Wanna sell the used brass when you're done ? PM me.

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 07:25 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... You reload Andy or do you sell to a smelter??? Just curious. T

AlterEgo | 11-06-2008 07:43 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1402270) Wanna sell the used brass when you're done ? PM me.
Or me....as I do reload..

mkinla | 11-06-2008 08:28 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1402270) Wanna sell the used brass when you're done ? PM me.
No problem Andy

platinumdude | 11-06-2008 08:43 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... What are the advantages and disadvantages of using American Eagle versus russian made steel such as Silver Bear? Will it be easier on the barrel. Is one more potent or accurate than the other?

mkinla | 11-06-2008 08:54 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1402448) What are the advantages and disadvantages of using American Eagle versus russian made steel such as Silver Bear? Will it be easier on the barrel. Is one more potent or accurate than the other?
The ammo is cleaner, and definitely more consistent.. The reason I'm using it is to break in the barrel and major components, after about 400 rounds it should eat anything I use...:wink:

LukeNM | 11-06-2008 09:07 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 1402099) Got my 500 rounds of American Eagle 7.62x.39 today. Once I get my rifle I'll use this stuff to break her in, then I'll switch to cheaper Russian stuff....:wink:
Now here is a man who has done his homework...:emotions16:

Tn...Andy | 11-06-2008 09:12 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1402304) You reload Andy or do you sell to a smelter??? Just curious. T
Reload.....worth very little as smelter brass.

SilverCity | 11-06-2008 09:14 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1402448) What are the advantages and disadvantages of using American Eagle versus russian made steel such as Silver Bear? Will it be easier on the barrel. Is one more potent or accurate than the other?
I am not sure why MK would use expensive ammo to "break-in" his rifle. AKs and SKSs don't need breaking in per se... American Eagle: more expensive to shoot, accurate, better overall quality, component uniformity, cleaner burning powder, reloadable brass cases, softer primers, which are more prone to slam-firing in AKs and SKSs. Silver Bear, Brown Bear, Wolf, Sapsan, Golden Tiger, etc: cheaper to shoot, dirtier powders, high-reliability primers (hard, to eliminate slam-fires), sealed bullet and primer (waterproof), generally Russian military spec Is one easier on the barrel than the other? I seriously doubt it. Steel cased ammo uses a bi-metal bullet...lead core, soft steel jacket, copper plate

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1402510) American Eagle: more expensive to shoot, accurate, better overall quality, component uniformity, cleaner burning powder, reloadable brass cases, softer primers, which are more prone to slam-firing in AKs and SKSs. ,
What is this term exactly?? Also what dose it mean when they say you have a "stove pipe"?? Is that a bullet trapped in the barrel somewhere? T

mkinla | 11-06-2008 09:57 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1402510) I am not sure why MK would use expensive ammo to "break-in" his rifle. AKs and SKSs don't need breaking in per se...
Well my rifle is NOT an AK or an SKS, and is 10 times more superior.... Kinda like the arguement, I don't know why you run 92 octane in your Porsche, 87 works great in my beater.....:wink:

mike77777 | 11-06-2008 10:03 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... put a fired .45 case in your hand, rack the slide on your autopistol, insert the fired case withe the open end up. release slide. pistols jammed, fired case looks like a piece of stovepipe sticking up in your line of sight. tap,rack bang to clear.

mike77777 | 11-06-2008 10:06 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... slam fire is a cartridge going off unexpectadly when action closes. firing pin stuck forward, primer too sensitive,or not seated fully could cause this.

SilverCity | 11-06-2008 10:20 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 1402567) Well my rifle is NOT an AK or an SKS, and is 10 times more superior.... Kinda like the arguement, I don't know why you run 92 octane in your Porsche, 87 works great in my beater.....:wink:
Well, excuuuuse me. :biggrin:

mkinla | 11-06-2008 10:25 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1402604) Well, excuuuuse me. :biggrin:
I apologize if I sounded like a yuppie gun nut....LMAO

SilverCity | 11-06-2008 10:29 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1402562) What is this term exactly?? Also what dose it mean when they say you have a "stove pipe"?? Is that a bullet trapped in the barrel somewhere? T
Stovepipe jam:

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 10:38 PM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Thanks .......pics help a million. :ok: T

Dr. Doom | 11-07-2008 12:24 AM
Re: Hey the UPS man stopped by today..... Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 1402567) Well my rifle is NOT an AK or an SKS, and is 10 times more superior....
Since your gun is 10X an AK/SKS, why would you ever shoot steel cased ammo through it ? :bear_tongue:

CrufflerJJ | 11-07-2008 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1402562) What is this term [slam fire] exactly?? T
As some other folks have said, slam fires can occur from soft primers, primers not seated deep enough, or firing pins sticking out from the bolt. They most commonly happen in semi auto weapons, and are a BAD THING. Stuck firing pins are seen in poorly maintained SKS rifles. Using commercial ammo (soft primers) in a military firearm with a heavy firing pin (such as the M1 Garand & some French semi-auto rifles) can also do it. If you insert a loaded mag into an AR15 & release the bolt, then remove the round from the chamber, you may very well see a small dimple in the primer. This is pretty normal, and shows you how a slam fire COULD occur if something goes badly. See the attached picture - it's Malaysian mil-surplus 5.56 ammo, after a couple chamberings in an AR15. See the little dimple in the primer? This shows you that the firing pin still moves forward in the bolt as the bolt slides forward. I think you could imagine what might happen if the firing pin is too heavy, or the primer too soft. This is why some primer manufacturers offer harder military-style primers for use in certain weapons.

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