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ColdWater | 04-22-2008 12:45 PM
Ammunition Accountability Act There's probably a thread on this but I can't find it. I don't see how coding bullets is useful for anything other than tracking ammunition sales. Criminals will steal bullets or alter the code. It says noncoded bullets will be illegal after 2011. So I guess it's illegal to make your own unless you can find a way to code and register them. It's also adds 1/2 cent per round. Quote:
This is being introduced in each state starting with California, New York, Illinois, Hawaii, Maryland, Indiana, Tennessee, and Washington. See: http://www.ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm "No later than January 1, 2011, all noncoded ammunition for the calibers listed in this act, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, shall be disposed." Tennessee HOUSE BILL 3245 By LARRY J. MILLER D - Memphis SENATE BILL 3395 By REGINALD TATE D - Memphis AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13, to enact the “Ammunition Accountability Act”. BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE: SECTION 1. This act shall be known and may be cited as the “Ammunition Accountability Act”. SECTION 2. The general assembly finds the following: (1) Each year in the United States, more than thirty percent (30%) of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved; (2) Handgun ammunition accounts for eighty percent (80%) of all ammunition sold in the United States; (3) Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement; and (4) Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations. SECTION 3. For purposes of this act, "coded ammunition" means a bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile. SECTION 4. (a) All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer. (b) No later than January 1, 2011, all noncoded ammunition for the calibers listed in this act, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, shall be disposed. SB3395011970721 SECTION 5. (a) The Tennessee bureau of investigation (TBI) shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining an ammunition coding system database (ACSD) containing the following information: (1) A manufacturer registry. Manufacturers shall: (A) Register with the TBI in a manner prescribed by the department through rules and regulations; and (B) Maintain records on the business premises for a period of seven (7) years concerning all sales, loans and transfers of ammunition, to, from, or within the state; and (2) A vendor registry. Vendors shall: (A) Register with the TBI in a manner prescribed by the department through rules and regulations; (B) Record the following information in a format prescribed by the TBI: (i) The date of the transaction; (ii) The name of the transferee; (iii) The purchaser's driver license number or other government issued identification card number; (iv) The date of birth of the purchaser; (v) The unique identifier of all handgun ammunition or bullets transferred; and (vi) All other information prescribed by the TBI; and (C) Maintain records on the business premises for a period of three (3) years from the date of the recorded purchase. (b) To the greatest extent possible or practical, the ACSD shall be built within the framework of existing firearms databases. The ACSD shall be operational no later than January 1, 2009. (c) Privacy of individuals shall be of the utmost importance. Access to information in the ACSD is reserved for key law enforcement personnel and shall only be released in connection with a criminal investigation. SECTION 6. (a) Any vendor that knowingly fails to comply with, or falsifies the records required to be kept by this act commits a Class A misdemeanor. (b) Any manufacturer that knowingly fails to comply with this act commits a Class A misdemeanor punishable by fine only not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) for a first violation and punishable by fine only not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000) for second and subsequent violations. (c) Any person who knowingly destroys, obliterates, or otherwise renders unreadable, the serialization required pursuant to this act, on any bullet or assembled ammunition commits a Class A misdemeanor. SECTION 7. (a) The cost of establishing and maintaining the ACSD shall be funded by an enduser fee. Vendors shall charge an additional one half cent ($.005) per bullet or round of ammunition to the purchaser. (b) There is established the coded ammunition fund for deposit of the enduser fees described in this section. Moneys in the fund, upon appropriation, shall be available to the TBI for infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of this act. 201197072301197072 SECTION 8. This act shall take effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring it.

Dave | 04-22-2008 01:12 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act I would be surprised if this past ANYWHERE. Well, maybe not California or New York. Dave

Abouthadit | 04-22-2008 01:24 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act two words: molon labe

phideaux | 04-22-2008 01:26 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act These politicians are clueless. :banghead: They can pry the uncoded bullets out of my cold dead hands.

Big_Rob | 04-22-2008 02:02 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act If I were an ammunition manufacturer, I would simply not sell any ammo in those states.

sand86 | 04-22-2008 02:42 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act It would be both a back door gun registry and ammunition registry. This would be ludicrous, but how would they enforce it? This is one of the many reasons I left NY. I doubt it will pass, but then again I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it did. I wonder how much this would raise ammunition prices? 1/2 tax plus, however much it would cost to stamp unique serial numbers on every bullet. The statistics cited in the bill mean nothing. So what if 80% of ammunition sold in the US is for handguns. How about an actual number of unsolved gun related homicides. Anyone whose study statistics in anyway should know that these numbers are worthless. And what the hell is assault rifle ammunition? There are .223/.308 bolt action rifles, but I am sure that is the ammunition they have in mind.

Iptuous | 04-22-2008 02:50 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act I don't think it would pass muster, but perhaps we should get shotgun shells included in the list so that it becomes a poison pill by pissing off all the Rich Fudds.

Onboard | 04-22-2008 03:52 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 1073128) These politicians are clueless. :banghead: They can pry the uncoded bullets out of my cold dead hands.
Touche. Or they could pry them out of each others cold dead _$$.

wallew | 04-22-2008 05:10 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act I'll GLADLY DISPOSE OF MY AMMO. THEY WON'T LIKE HOW I DO IT. BUT I WILL DO IT...

The Argent Dragon | 04-22-2008 05:48 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1073592) I'll GLADLY DISPOSE OF MY AMMO. THEY WON'T LIKE HOW I DO IT. BUT I WILL DO IT...
AMEN to that :clap2: :beer: .....I'm with WALLEW on this one. :bear_w00t:

Krugerrand | 04-22-2008 06:02 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave (Post 1073104) I would be surprised if this past ANYWHERE. Well, maybe not California or New York. Dave
It has already passed in Kalifornia, last I knew. :banghead:

Ag_man | 04-22-2008 06:44 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act I believe this was defeated in the IL house 2 months ago. Hard to believe!

extremist | 04-23-2008 05:18 AM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act I thought the CA bill was about guns microstamping serial #'s onto spent casings, whereas this new bill would force ammo manufacturers to microstamp bullets -- but even the most knowledgeable firearms expert would probably find it difficult to decide which makes less sense.

jrog100 | 04-23-2008 09:09 AM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave (Post 1073104) I would be surprised if this past ANYWHERE. Well, maybe not California or New York. Dave
or Chicago!

Twisted Avatar | 04-23-2008 09:15 AM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1073592) I'll GLADLY DISPOSE OF MY AMMO. THEY WON'T LIKE HOW I DO IT. BUT I WILL DO IT...
Dam skippy! If you think you are bad enough you are more than welcome to try... I got lots of pent up stress. T

MarinePride | 04-24-2008 03:23 PM
Re: Ammunition Accountability Act This is just another incremental step in the loss of the country and the freedom we once enjoyed. One day in the future I'm sure that most gun owners will be labeled as terrorists or worse. And I thought that I could escape the stupidity of CA's oppressive gun laws by moving........I guess the joke is on me if any of this stuff somehow becomes national law at some point in the future. So when they catch you with uncoded bullets you will be labeled as a terrorist and dealt with accordingly. Most gun owners don't keep up with the latest gun laws and by their own ignorance could become criminals for having uncoded bullets.

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