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platinumdude | 01-22-2009 10:29 PM
DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in I got my new rifle and tried to disassemble it, but the receiver cover doesn't seem to want to slide off. Should I use pliers or something? Never mind, pliers with a cloth worked. I am going to have to oil it to make it smooth for next time.

platinumdude | 01-22-2009 10:38 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 FAL Disassembly on another note, at http://www.dsarms.com/brebarrel.asp they say to do all this to break in the barrel. Is that to excessive? Fire one bullet, then use a copper cleaner, and repeat for 10 shots. Then fire two bullets and clean, and do for 10 shots that way.

StrawMan=Corporation | 01-22-2009 10:42 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 FAL Disassembly It also could depend on the type of top cover. Most new top covers are sprung so they are a tight fit on the receiver. If you cover your plier jaws with a thick cloth and give a light squeeze that could help a bit and should go on and off a little easier. Or you could let it wear in. To get information on FAL topics Join a board called http://www.falfiles.com/ . Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1526269) I got my new rifle and tried to disassemble it, but the receiver cover doesn't seem to want to slide off. Should I use pliers or something? Never mind, pliers with a cloth worked. I am going to have to oil it to make it smooth for next time.

The Argent Dragon | 01-22-2009 10:45 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in I've read a lot on barrel break-in...........IMO it's not necessary. If you want to try, it won't hurt ~ but I would try to abstain from rapid fire at least for the first 200 rounds due to excessive heat buildup. Just my 0.02 cents

rad | 01-22-2009 11:09 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Good barrel break in information http://www.snipercountry.com/Article...el_BreakIn.asp http://www.yarchive.net/gun/barrel/break_in.html I don't do it.

SilverCity | 01-22-2009 11:14 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Oh, it's a BADGER barrel...probably chrome moly, not lined...still wouldn't bother to break it in. Waste of ammo. It's a battle rifle for Pete's sake.

Twisted Avatar | 01-22-2009 11:24 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in 2 Attachment(s) Looks awesome:ok:

Ringhunter | 01-22-2009 11:36 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in DSARMS is 15 minutes from here, I guess I'll have to check then out :36_1_34:

platinumdude | 01-22-2009 11:38 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in 1 Attachment(s) Actually I went for the simpler 18 inch barrel version.

gangsta99 | 01-22-2009 11:53 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Damn, those are really $1700??? Nice weapon though but man that is higher than I would have thought. Never priced those types of guns though before. I think I would rather buy an M1 Garand, AK and a Glock for the price of one of those.

platinumdude | 01-31-2009 01:07 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in I went ahead and did a little barrel break in. One patch with copper remover, one patch with windex, then a dry patch. Will do a little more next week, then I'm done. The recoil wasn't bad at all. I had a leather jacket on though since I wanted to see what it was like. Later I will adjust the gas. The only rounds I could use for some Federal brand soft points, so every once it a while I have to move the slide again if it got stuck. I was only loading single shots in the mag. When I go outdoors after the break-in it will be all ball ammo.

Fullpower | 01-31-2009 02:50 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Why are you using copper remover and windex in the barrel of a new rifle? This seems more likely to cause a problem than solve one. . . . . edit: I have fired several times my own body weight in 308, through various rifles, including the FAL. I have never introduced either windex nor copper remover into any firearm. I am not aware of any rifle damaged or made inoperative by a lack of windex.

latitude22 | 01-31-2009 02:54 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in i do the barrel break in on my long range rifles. Fire a shot, copper clean it, jb-bore paste, solvent, fire another. About 10 times then i call it good.

CrufflerJJ | 01-31-2009 03:10 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1541919) The recoil wasn't bad at all. I had a leather jacket on though since I wanted to see what it was like. Later I will adjust the gas. The only rounds I could use for some Federal brand soft points, so every once it a while I have to move the slide again if it got stuck.
Recoil on a FAL isn't bad at all. The big bolt carrier/bolt assembly seems to soak up a lot of the impact. Could you go into more details on moving "the slide again if it got stuck"? Did it seem like the rifle wasn't ejecting the rounds properly, or the bolt would get stuck before fully closing (after stripping a round off the magazine)?

goldgun | 01-31-2009 03:26 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in More guns have been ruined by breaking in barrels and escessive cleaning. I know because of my mistakes. Clean rifle before you go to range. Shoot rifle. Clean rifle after shooting. Done!

latitude22 | 01-31-2009 03:54 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in The Bushmaster Varminter I just bought even comes with a yellow warning message to break it in. Honestly I dont know that does any good, but I also don't believe it hurts. My FFL is going to the range with me to fire the varminter and he's a former recon guy so the odds of me getting away without breaking it in are slim to none LOL

Darkside | 01-31-2009 04:15 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Are any of those SA58's NY legal? Except of course the "California legal" series they have... those are lame with fixed magazines... I'd like a SA58 carbine model but it seems they all exceed NY's communist gun laws.

Fullpower | 01-31-2009 05:29 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in just checked on the windex contents. looked like mostly WATER, with some ammonia and detergent. sounds like 3 of the most idiotic things to pour down the barrel of your own rifle.

morganchaser | 01-31-2009 06:46 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1542211) just checked on the windex contents. looked like mostly WATER, with some ammonia and detergent. sounds like 3 of the most idiotic things to pour down the barrel of your own rifle.
Neutralizes corrosive salts. Necessity if you're going to fire corrosive primer ammo.

platinumdude | 01-31-2009 07:00 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1542047) Recoil on a FAL isn't bad at all. The big bolt carrier/bolt assembly seems to soak up a lot of the impact. Could you go into more details on moving "the slide again if it got stuck"? Did it seem like the rifle wasn't ejecting the rounds properly, or the bolt would get stuck before fully closing (after stripping a round off the magazine)?
The bolt would sometimes get stuck before fully closing. I know it's recommended to use ball ammo, but the soft points were the only ones I could find in all copper jacket.

CrufflerJJ | 01-31-2009 08:07 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1542298) The bolt would sometimes get stuck before fully closing. I know it's recommended to use ball ammo, but the soft points were the only ones I could find in all copper jacket.
The bolt should NOT get stuck before fully closing. You should not have to futz with this with a properly adjusted rifle. See if the same failure occurs with FMJ ammo. It sounds like you have a wimpy recoil spring or some other (vague) problem. Feeding more gas to the action might help things a bit.

platinumdude | 01-31-2009 08:54 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1542381) The bolt should NOT get stuck before fully closing. You should not have to futz with this with a properly adjusted rifle. See if the same failure occurs with FMJ ammo. It sounds like you have a wimpy recoil spring or some other (vague) problem. Feeding more gas to the action might help things a bit.
I was feeding ammo, one cartridge at a time in the mag. I will try a different mag. but will also try to get some ball or use the bimetal ball at an outdoor range. I don't know if loading a mag with only one round helped caused the problem.

SilverCity | 02-01-2009 02:19 AM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in It's still new and probably a little stiff...shoot it some more 'til it loosens up a bit or try another mag. Make sure you pull the bolt handle all the way back and let fly. Don't be too gentle. All of my FALs will do this a bit until warmed it. Doesn't have anything to do with the gas system.

platinumdude | 02-01-2009 10:45 AM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Thanks. will try that and let it warm up a bit. On another note, I thought the serial number needed to be stamped on the lower, instead up the upper.

SilverCity | 02-01-2009 11:01 AM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1543060) Thanks. will try that and let it warm up a bit. On another note, I thought the serial number needed to be stamped on the lower, instead up the upper.
FALs are serial-numbered on the upper receiver.

platinumdude | 02-07-2009 04:42 PM
Re: DSARMS SA58 barrel break-in Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1542759) It's still new and probably a little stiff...shoot it some more 'til it loosens up a bit or try another mag. Make sure you pull the bolt handle all the way back and let fly. Don't be too gentle. All of my FALs will do this a bit until warmed it. Doesn't have anything to do with the gas system.
I tried two other magazines, made sure I let go of the handle completely and it loaded perfectly every time. So my rifle can be feed soft points if need be. I finished the barrel break-in by just using the copper cleaner and letting it cool 5 minutes between shots. Now on to an outdoor range later on.

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