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livtocruz | 02-02-2010 11:09 PM
Latest bullion & gun acquisitions 3 Attachment(s) I posted a while back on another thread about wanting to pick up a couple of hand guns for my wife and I. Here are a few pictures I took today, the hand guns we got as Christmas presents to each other. The first picture shows our guns and the PMs they're protecting that arrived from BD today.The shotgun in the background is a Sears Model 66, Semi-auto 12 gauge, 2-3/4" chamber with a fully adjustable choke. When my dad passed away in '82 it was sort of an inheritance because no one in the family new that he had loaned it to me. The first handgun is my wifes Bersa Thunder .380, 7+1. The second gun is my Bersa Thunder 9mm, Ultra Compact, 15+1. My wife suggested posting a sign on the front of our house. "Home & Property Protected by Bersa". :emotions16:Some how I don't think the town's police would find that humorous.

nickelless | 02-03-2010 12:12 AM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions I'm inclined to say be careful about advertising what you have, but I think the business end of your pieces will probably get that point across if looters find you.

desertjack | 02-03-2010 12:40 AM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Good choice with the Bersa's. They are one of the best kept secrets on the gun market. Although prices have begun to creep up as people take note of what good values they are.

mk3hunter | 02-03-2010 07:12 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions guns ammo gold and silver.......freedom (God Bless your dad by the way)

Patriotme | 02-03-2010 08:47 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Nice stuff. You need to buy more mags though. I don't want to nitpick but is that ball ammo in your magazines? A few boxes of hollowpoints would be a good investment (especially for the .380) I would add some 12 ga buckshot (and some slugs because you just never know) to the mix as well. Have you picked up any holsters yet? That's a great start though. You are ahead of most of the sheeple out there and have some nice stuff.

andial | 02-03-2010 08:52 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Excellent presentation.

Ag_man | 02-03-2010 09:17 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriotme (Post 2161293) Nice stuff. You need to buy more mags though. I don't want to nitpick but is that ball ammo in your magazines? A few boxes of hollowpoints would be a good investment (especially for the .380) I would add some 12 ga buckshot (and some slugs because you just never know) to the mix as well. Have you picked up any holsters yet? That's a great start though. You are ahead of most of the sheeple out there and have some nice stuff.
Some .380's (don't know about the Bersa) have issues feeding HPs and it is a debatable issue if one gets better stopping power with HPs over FMJs in .380.

Justabear | 02-03-2010 09:20 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Nice, make sure you own a good rifle!

Twisted Avatar | 02-03-2010 10:12 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions :ok::ok::ok::ok:

Heimdhal | 02-03-2010 10:51 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Another +1 on the bersa! Love my .45 uc!

hoarder | 02-03-2010 11:13 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions There's nothing better than having the three basic food groups on your table!

livtocruz | 02-03-2010 11:38 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions 4 Attachment(s) Thanks all, Nick, We live on a street corner with a shitload of traffic night and day and two street lights. My main concern is the rear door. Patriot, The mags in the handguns are loaded with hollow points (home protection). Magtech in the 9mm and Aguila (for now) in the .380, The ammo you see in the four mags are for the range. Can't put everything we own in one picture now, can we? As for my shot choice, 8 lead shot at 10-15' shot at a perp with the choke fully open would put a hole in the perp the size of a baseball. Less collateral damage if needed in my house. Buckshot is for outside, Cabela's had that on sale, got a case. Yea, were looking at holsters. Bear, I know I'm old fashioned but I have been seriously looking at the following. The Marlin 30-30, Winchester 94 and the Henry repeater. I'd scope any rifle I ended up with. Pictures of HPs and holsters to follow to follow. To all, this is the way I think, handguns (close up & personal), shotgun (25-35 yards, that's where the buck shot comes into play), rifle w/scope (35-250 yards, if you miss me you'll end up looking like a deer after the hunt). Just think of that scene in Joe Kidd with him and the other guy up on the rock.

mick silver | 02-03-2010 11:52 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions today i loaded my saiga mags with alot of favor a few slugs afew oo an some bird shot and one Flash Bang Ammo

FreeMyLand | 02-04-2010 04:19 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 2161358) Some .380's (don't know about the Bersa) have issues feeding HPs and it is a debatable issue if one gets better stopping power with HPs over FMJs in .380.
We use FMJ for both .380 and .45. I have read a lot of ballistic info on .380 that supports FMJ being better for penetration. With the low velocity of .380 ammo, expansion is also questionable. With .45 ACP, I don't really worry about expansion. With any round that travels at less than 1,000 fps - I tend to shoot FMJ. I'm sure many will disagree, but this is the conclusions I have drawn from reading ballistics data.

The Argent Dragon | 02-04-2010 04:32 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Nice pics........always like seeing gold & guns together. :bull-smile:

diogenes | 02-04-2010 05:58 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Nice set up! Now all you need is a good rifle & take the Appleseed course.

General of Darkness | 02-04-2010 06:18 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions I thought you lost all of that in a boating accident.

livtocruz | 02-04-2010 08:25 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Quote:
Originally Posted by General of Darkness (Post 2162893) I thought you lost all of that in a boating accident.
Nah, that was all the stuff in the pics I posted last year. This stuff is brand new. Problem is is that I like taking my stash where ever I go. I do a lot of ice fishing in the winter. Therein lies the problem. :36_1_63:

Justabear | 02-04-2010 09:01 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Livtocruz: Strangely, after I suggested you need a rifle, I thought I should have made a recommendation. Based on your post that you and you wife shoot, but don't appear to be big rifle shooters. I was going to recommend a Marlin lever gun in 30-30! Affordable, easy to operate, durable, reliable, minimal maintenance, not complex, lethal if needed, doubles as a hunting rifle, ammo readily available, PERFECT. Justabear

CrufflerJJ | 02-04-2010 10:05 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeMyLand (Post 2162711) We use FMJ for both .380 and .45. I have read a lot of ballistic info on .380 that supports FMJ being better for penetration. With the low velocity of .380 ammo, expansion is also questionable. With .45 ACP, I don't really worry about expansion. With any round that travels at less than 1,000 fps - I tend to shoot FMJ. I'm sure many will disagree, but this is the conclusions I have drawn from reading ballistics data.
I carry FMJ in my Keltec P3AT for that reason.

Stealinator | 02-04-2010 10:12 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Quote:
Originally Posted by Justabear (Post 2163134) Livtocruz: Strangely, after I suggested you need a rifle, I thought I should have made a recommendation. Based on your post that you and you wife shoot, but don't appear to be big rifle shooters. I was going to recommend a Marlin lever gun in 30-30! Affordable, easy to operate, durable, reliable, minimal maintenance, not complex, lethal if needed, doubles as a hunting rifle, ammo readily available, PERFECT. Justabear
Got to admit, thats a fun,fun gun. Winchester lever action 30/30 for me though. wild wild west like.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 02-05-2010 07:14 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Nice! You should post your home address here, too.

flying | 02-05-2010 09:23 PM
Re: Latest bullion & gun acquisitions Quote:
Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 2161630) Thanks all, My main concern is the rear door.
Get yourself one of those security doors with the blind screws. You know the ones? They have good ratings of 1000 pounds force etc. Cheap too at home depot etc. Roughly $175 for the better ones. btw...Nice purchases both arms & PM's

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