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Bob | 07-17-2009 06:18 PM
Swiss K31 Opinions 2 Attachment(s) One of my weaknesses is Swiss firearms. A local gent has a Swiss K31 for sale. He's asking $300 for it (which includes some reloading dies and brass). Just curious of people's opinions on this deal (seems a bit high to me but prices seem to have gone up also). Thanks.

AG Capone | 07-17-2009 06:26 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions That's a good deal for just the gun alone right now. The pictures look good. I have never owned one but have seen a few at the range. The straight pull bolt looks pretty sweet. I am hesitant about ammo availability though. Being set up to reload is the way to go.

Gaillo | 07-17-2009 06:38 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions I'm a big fan of the K31. I'm not sure the "straight bolt" design is really any faster than a traditional bolt, but it is easy and fast to operate. The workmanship is top-notch, like everything else Swiss. Ammo availability should not be a problem - if you reload. You can take .284 Win. brass and re-form it in 7.5x55 dies and it works just fine. Be sure to remove the steel buttplate and see if there is a soldiers personal information tag (made of mylar), about half of K31's have one. You used to be able to buy K31's for under $75, but now they are going for several hundred. Nice guns - wish I had a few!

Ag_man | 07-17-2009 06:42 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Seems high to me. I would like a K-31 too, but 1/2 the price minus the reloading supplies would be fair dinkum to me.

SilverCity | 07-17-2009 07:13 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Straight-pull 7.5x55 Schmidt-Reubens in the hands of every capable Swiss farmer were one of the reasons Hitler didn't invade Switzerland. Ammo availability should be the critical factor in your decision...

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 07-17-2009 07:47 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions I'm not sure what reloading dies + brass go for, so that might be a decent deal. But I'm gonna' slightly disagree with my friend AG Capone here. K31s with mint bores and original wood finish and metal do indeed go for $300. However, the wood appears to have been stripped with a chemical or perhaps lightly sanded. I would only consider such a rifle a shooter, as its collector value has been diminished. As stated above, ammo is an issue, too. As a shooter, I'd say it's worth $175, max.

Bob | 07-17-2009 07:58 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1822917) [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=3]K31s with mint bores and original wood finish and metal do indeed go for $300. However, the wood appears to have been stripped with a chemical or perhaps lightly sanded.
That was one of my concerns. The wood is far better than any I've seen and seems a lighter in color. He's willing to sell for $250 without the supplies but seems firm at that.

MetalManiac | 07-17-2009 08:03 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Prvi Partizan 7.5 Swiss 174grn FMJ 20rd box: $13.50 http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/c..._7_5swiss.html http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/ai75swiss.jpg $350 for a Swiss K31 Rifle: http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...1_Carbine.html

Bob | 07-17-2009 08:15 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Or here for ammo also: http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....1b701a3e590677 7.5 Swiss 174gr FMJ Swiss Surplus. 60rd Boxes quantity price 4+ $34.98 8+ $32.49 Quantity: 7.5MM Swiss, 174GR FMJ GP11, Noncorrosive, Brass Case, Berdan Primed, come in 60rd battle packs. Order 8 battle packs to get a 480rd Case.

NOOB | 07-17-2009 08:16 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Nice looking shooter there.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 07-17-2009 10:45 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1822882) Straight-pull 7.5x55 Schmidt-Reubens in the hands of every capable Swiss farmer were one of the reasons Hitler didn't invade Switzerland. Ammo availability should be the critical factor in your decision...
All the Nazi gold housed there didn't hurt, either. However, I must say, it's a beautiful rifle.

SilverCity | 07-17-2009 10:50 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions That and having to negotiate the Swiss Alps...

____hoot____ | 07-17-2009 11:58 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Had one. My dad bought it back in the late 50s mailorder for $24.95 or $29.95 with a 4x scope re-bored to 308 caliber[7.62x51 NATO] . Shot a couple deer with it. Decide to get rid of it in the early 70s when we heard bad storys about the rechambering to .308 for a barrel bore that was actually .301-.302. They are heavy.

mightymanx | 07-18-2009 02:15 AM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions I would have bought it already. That is a smoking deal in my part of the country for one in that good of shape. He does not live in Washington state by chance?

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 07-26-2009 06:55 AM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions So how does it shoot, Bob? : )

gypsybiker45 | 07-26-2009 07:03 AM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Id pay it, the gun looks damn near perfect, not a gun to base your survival on though.The K31 is a tack driver off the scale once its dialed in and you get used to it. but ammo is expensive and sometimes hard to find. the straight pull system was designed so soldiers didnt have to expose their shoulders and arms from cover to chamber a round(try it!) compared to the Mausers and others of the period.all in all thats a nice rifle.

CrufflerJJ | 07-26-2009 12:09 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalManiac (Post 1822936) Prvi Partizan 7.5 Swiss 174grn FMJ 20rd box: $13.50 http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/c..._7_5swiss.html http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/ai75swiss.jpg $350 for a Swiss K31 Rifle: http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...1_Carbine.html
The AIM rifle is a K11 (model 1911) carbine, Not a K31. It's still pretty, but is a bit different from the K31. I agree with the posters above that the wood appears to have been refinished (stripped/sanded/restained). It probably does not justify more than a $175 price. The Swiss K31 is a wonderful firearm. they have great trigger pulls, and every piece fits together "just so." If you're looking for a K31, Empire Arms (Dennis Kroh) occasionally has them for $325+, but is currently out of stock (see http://www.empirearms.com/K31.htm ). Allan Schisel (Allan's Armory) has one in lesser condition for $175 at: http://www.allans-armory.com/aaresult.php?PageId=31 Swiss GP11 ammo is very nice stuff. I've reloaded 7.5x55 from Win .284 brass, but you no longer have to form that brass. 7.5x55 brass is available from Graf's - see: http://www.grafs.com/metallic/775

Silver_Surfer | 07-26-2009 07:12 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions I've got 2 of them and love them I got mine 2 years ago for $129. I wish I would have bought a ton of them. That is about the going rate on Gunbroker. If you like it buy. I love mine

mk3hunter | 08-01-2009 11:17 PM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions buy it......that price is what they are going for now and that one looks great. I love mine!!:36_3_13:

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 08-02-2009 12:30 AM
Re: Swiss K31 Opinions Damn the suspense is killing me!

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