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Twisted Avatar | 12-08-2008 06:19 PM
Obama: Don't stock up on guns Big Rob Found this article and just posted it but this is truly worthy of it own thread as this is from the "horses mouth" Nice Find BR :ok: As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month. "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," Obama said at a news conference. "Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. I said that throughout the campaign. I haven't indicated anything different during the transition. I think people can take me at my word." But National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it's not Obama's words — but his legislative track record — that has gun-buyers flocking to the stores. "Prior to his campaign for president, his record as a state legislator and as a U.S. Senator shows he voted for the most stringent forms of gun control, the most Draconian legislation, gun bans, ammunition bans and even an increase in federal excise taxes up to 500 percent for every gun and firearm sold," Arulanandam said. Obama answered "yes" in 1996 to a questionnaire from an Illinois group on whether he supported a handgun ban. But he later said a staffer filled out that answer and he did not support a ban. Nationally, background checks for gun purchases jumped nearly 49 percent during the week Obama was elected, compared with the same time period last year, according to the FBI's National Instant Background Check System. Anecdotally, gun dealers around the country have reported spikes in sales. The Illinois State Rifle Association Reports gun sales for November were 38 percent higher than last year. "We don't dispute [the gun sales hike] because the numbers from the federal system certainly confirm that there is increased activity out there. We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence. "Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more." http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...120808.article

Drumblebum | 12-08-2008 06:23 PM
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"Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."
Can someone explain to me what this person means when he says "progress on this issue"?

Twisted Avatar | 12-08-2008 06:23 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more." NOW THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST CHILLING STATEMENT OF THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. T

Twisted Avatar | 12-08-2008 06:25 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns DAM WE ARE THE SAME PAGE!!!! :ok: But they are making it clear........WE GOT THE POWER NOW AND WE ARE GOING TO USE IT TO STRIP YOU OF EVERYTHING YOU DAM OWN. Make no mistake. They are going for the throat this time. Stock up .......nice and deep. T

ohioarmedneutrality | 12-08-2008 06:30 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns "...I believe in the second amendment," Obama said..." All I can say is, even Satan believes in God, but that doesn't mean he's going to be ringing a Salvation Army bell this Christmas.

Twisted Avatar | 12-08-2008 06:39 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns 1 Attachment(s) We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more." You can NEVER HAVE TO MANY GUNS. EVER.

silverblood | 12-08-2008 06:44 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Maybe guns can save us in a different way. It could be the next reflation bubble!

Silverstone | 12-08-2008 06:47 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1455868) Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more." NOW THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST CHILLING STATEMENT OF THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. T
Yep, and I guess they think it's a big enough issue for BamBam to speak out about it. I take the message to read that we already have enough guns we don't need anymore. Pinnochio the Pacifer has spoken, now don't rush out and buy anymore guns!

pot_dragon | 12-08-2008 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1455854) [COLOR="Red"] "Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."[/I][/B]
I am not an obamanite, but i think you guys are missing this aides sarcasm. what he is saying is that the wheels of bureaucracy turn slowly, so rushing out to buy a gun today, RIGHT NOW, isnt really necessary, if something happens there will be a months long window to stock up. that said, that isnt stopping me from buying guns. the gander mountain i go to always has at least 10 customers milling around the firearms section.

latemetal | 12-08-2008 08:04 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns I might get another just for spite, cause I KNOW I don't need another firearm...:5_1_120:.... could always stock ammo.:5_1_120:

FireMattMillen | 12-08-2008 08:57 PM
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Always believe the opposite of what state officials tell you, and the corollary, always do the opposite of what they advise you. So, it's easy to know how to respond to the latest edict from dictator-elect Obama. He says: gunowners have nothing to fear from him, and therefore you should not stock up on guns and ammo.
That about sums it up. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/024313.html

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 12-08-2008 09:17 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Sir O of K taught me many moons ago: "don't pay any attention to what they say. Watch what they do." What Obama-Christ does - or more specifically, has done - is a matter of public record. See for yourself. So... ...keep buying, people! Keep buying!

platinumdude | 12-08-2008 09:36 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Is two rifles enough? I keep thinking of a 308 but a $3k price tag draws me away. That, plus I don't have any real use for one. Would have to live in the country or go hunting.

Twisted Avatar | 12-08-2008 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pot_dragon (Post 1455936) I am not an obamanite, but i think you guys are missing this aides sarcasm. what he is saying is that the wheels of bureaucracy turn slowly, so rushing out to buy a gun today, RIGHT NOW, isnt really necessary, if something happens there will be a months long window to stock up.
Until there is another Flase Flag event and he uses one of those executive orders to finally shut down the ammo and firearm window once and for all. T

Caligula | 12-08-2008 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 1456080) That about sums it up. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/024313.html
Right?! Politicians NEVER lie!!! :thumb.aspx: WTF!? That is all they do. Ever. Their entire existance is based upon lies.

keehah | 12-08-2008 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ohioarmedneutrality (Post 1455881) "...I believe in the second amendment," Obama said..." All I can say is, even Satan believes in God, but that doesn't mean he's going to be ringing a Salvation Army bell this Christmas.
I understand the good point you wanted to make. However: Quote:
The name �Rothschild� means red shield, and when the Salvation Army was set up with loans from Rothschild�s, it amused Rothschild to insist they had as their emblem the �red shield� of Satanism.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/070706a.htm

ohioarmedneutrality | 12-08-2008 11:21 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Don't get weird man.

TomD | 12-09-2008 08:41 AM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns 1 Attachment(s) just found this

The Argent Dragon | 12-09-2008 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1455854) "We don't dispute [the gun sales hike] because the numbers from the federal system certainly confirm that there is increased activity out there. We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, ....."
Oh Yeah ?!?! http://www.firstshowing.net/img/top/hl-smokin.jpg

GoldWampum | 12-09-2008 10:18 AM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Bought a Mosin Nagant yesterday. Needed something to reach out and touch. Maybe I'll take it back today since Obama asked me to curtail. :moon: Com'on Barry you're killin' me here. :4_1_72:

phideaux | 12-09-2008 10:37 AM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Obama: Don't stock up on guns Always do the opposite of what the politicians tell you to do.

Twisted Avatar | 12-09-2008 10:51 AM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns I like how this dweeb makes the point "LAWFUL OWNERS" have nothing to fear. That is a problem because with the most hostile administration to gun ownership firmly in power they can turn the laws on firearms upside down inside out and make EVERYONE a criminal That is just what he plans to do and that is why the smartest among us continue to buy whatever we can hand over fist. T

TLM | 12-09-2008 12:26 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns OK, Obama is going to be Commander-in-Chief of the entire Armed forces of the USA... He wants us to give up "our" guns, or not to buy anymore... OK, you go first Obama, you will be packin more heat than any of us. If you permanently and irrevokably renounce your roll as Commander-in-Chief, I won't buy any guns.

mk3hunter | 12-09-2008 01:37 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns The fight is coming.....maybe it has always been coming..... I'm buy for my kids and their future. I thinnk alot of people are waiting for the first move. Your turn Obama make your move.

teedub31 | 12-09-2008 01:59 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Damn, I was gonna finally be able to buy 2 oz of gold. Now I am gonna have to redirect those funds towards a more immediate purchase.

Mujahideen | 12-09-2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 1456834) Obama: Don't stock up on guns Always do the opposite of what the politicians tell you to do.
BINGO!!! :bear_thumb:

Bx3 | 12-09-2008 02:05 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" and "YES WE CAN" have taken on a whole new meaning.:thumb.aspx:

The Argent Dragon | 12-09-2008 04:54 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Pre-Barack (before I even knew who he was).... http://www.impactguns.com/store/medi...ger_1022rb.jpg Post-Barack (after he made Prez-elect) http://www.lssah.com/images/mg-42.jpg :bull-smile:.....lock -n- load.....8mm - FMJ.....all belts ready ! :bull-smile:

Twisted Avatar | 12-09-2008 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 1457137) Damn, I was gonna finally be able to buy 2 oz of gold. Now I am gonna have to redirect those funds towards a more immediate purchase.
Dont worry about it Rememeber this axiom: If you have gold you may not always be able to get a gun. If you have a gun you always can get yourself some gold.:ok: T

Drumblebum | 12-09-2008 05:12 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Proud owner of NRA Mini-14 as of today. NBD to most around here, I know, but I still can't wait to shoot it. :bear_thumb:

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The Argent Dragon | 12-09-2008 05:13 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Why would we want to 'stock up' ? ......it'll all just disappear in a boating accident anyways. http://www.bobshakespeare.com/bobsguns.gif

TomD | 12-09-2008 05:42 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns This is what we need, it's a GAU 4 20mm rotary canon. At 6000 rounds of 20 mm per minute at maybe $10+ each, it would be a little expensive to feed. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...m/DSC05388.jpg

The Argent Dragon | 12-09-2008 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1457545) This is what we need, it's a GAU 4 20mm rotary canon. At 6000 rounds of 20 mm per minute at maybe $10+ each, it would be a little expensive to feed.
:36_3_13: YEAH Baby, now that is a GUN ! (dammit Tom, I just drooled on my keyboard :rant: ).

The Argent Dragon | 12-09-2008 05:49 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...nk/minigun.jpg

Twisted Avatar | 12-09-2008 06:04 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns 1 Attachment(s) Smoking........

The Argent Dragon | 12-09-2008 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1457576) Smoking........
Hey, be careful associating yourself with such 'criminals'.......

Abouthadit | 12-09-2008 06:14 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns 1 Attachment(s) my preferred mini gun

Worldmariner | 12-10-2008 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mk3hunter (Post 1457105) The fight is coming.....maybe it has always been coming..... .
Well, the only way to combat this Socialist agenda and legislation is through politics. Even BETTER than buying up guns for future generations is by doing the following: We need more people to write to their Member of Congress (that means your elected Representative to the House of Representatives. Their job is to listen to the citizenry) and their Senator. By "more people" I mean **YOU**, the reader. "You" need to register to vote, "You" need to write to your elected officials, "You" need to join pro-second amendment organizations, like the GOA and the NRA. "You" need to go to local government meetings and voice your opinions. Here are the links: www.Congress.org Member of Congress to the House of Representatives: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml Your Senator: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/f_two_sections_with_teasers/states.htm Your governor: http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Governors.shtml National Rifle Association: www.nra.org Gun Owners of America: www.gunowners.org Many many forum posters seem to be the paranoid wall flower "I don't want my name on a list! I am not even registered to vote!" types... They wring their hands about what is happening, but they want SOMEONE ELSE to do the dirty work and take a chance, speak up, write the letters, cast the votes, and yet reap the rewards. If you are one of these types, (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!) you need to remember this: If you have ever filled out a Form 4473, trust me, you are in a database. If you are a member of GOA or the NRA, trust me, you are in a database. If you have ever registered to vote, trust me, you are in a database. If you have a driver's license, trust me, you are in a database. If you use your SSN to earn income, trust me, you are in a database. If you ever used your credit card to buy gun parts or ammo, you are in a database. If you were ever in the military... well you get the idea... keyed in on your name and DOB. Cross referenced with your SSN. With the (undeclared and in my opinion unconstitutional) Bush "war" on terror, the Department of Homeland Security and Congress have teamed up and are finishing up the process of making all the local, state, and Federal databases cross-searchable and accessible by ANY agency, NO WARRENT, NO JUDGE, required. If you are too cowardly to stand up and be counted, to make your voice heard, what will you do with your gun when tyranny arrives? I mean, you already know that you are a coward, so what will you do? Take your super secret gun and go shoot someone in a blue helmet or a black Hummer? I think not. We know what you will do. YOU know, deep down, what you will do. You will whisper about the Good Ol Days and hope that "someone else" does something, while you let your super secret gun rust in it's super secret hiding place, and be angry and post angry messages on forums about how somebody "should have done something". (Pardon me a moment whilst I vomit) That "someone" is **YOU**. GET OFF YOUR ASS and start DOING something about it, and posting messages on forums is NOT action! It is talk. Being a member on a website like www.righttokeepandbeararms.com is nice, and well meaning, and a fantastic resource for ideas, BUT it is not TRUE ACTION; it is feel good action. Joining a website WILL NOT cause change. Writing letters and being politically active is what causes change. Best idea: Buy as many firearms as you want. Give them as gifts! Register as many SBR's and suppressors as you can, join EVERY pro gun lobby group you can, and learn how to start grass roots legislation. Urge your friends to get CCW permits and to buy guns, including assault rifles. Take them shooting and let them burn through a box of your ammo. Turn them on to firearms. Get them re-acquainted with personal responsibility. Get them going in the right direction. Turn America BACK INTO a gun culture and freedom culture and personal responsibility culture. THAT is how to beat DHS, Napolitano, Clinton, an increasing militarized police force (anyone else notice that trend??), other anti-firearms groups, and generally "The Fed". The Feds just follow the rules. If the rules change, so do they. They are like the Borg. They are guys, most... smart, but not brilliant. They are working away at a Federal retirement, doing their job. If the rules change tomorrow and allow everyone to own an unregistered suppressor, believe me, the hour the legislation passes, they will stop activity related to suppressors. Most of those ATF guys (that I know anyway) are not rabidly anti-gun. Most all of them own firearms themselves. They are just following the rules. They do not get cash bonuses for finding illegal guns, such as the IRS agents receive for "recovering" "lost" revenue from recalcitrant tax payers. (Everyone here knows that, right? The IRS guys get a slice of the recovered money as an "on the spot cash award". THAT is why the IRS guys are so rabid. They are motivated by greed) If you are offended by reading this post, then YOU are PROBABLY the guy this post is aimed at! -WorldMariner

Gold Rules | 12-10-2008 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1457586) my preferred mini gun
What ........gun?:yes:

Drumblebum | 12-10-2008 10:04 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Quote:
Originally Posted by Worldmariner (Post 1459110) Well, the only way to combat this Socialist agenda and legislation is through politics. Even BETTER than buying up guns for future generations is by doing the following: We need more people to write to their Member of Congress (that means your elected Representative to the House of Representatives. Their job is to listen to the citizenry) and their Senator. By "more people" I mean **YOU**, the reader. "You" need to register to vote, "You" need to write to your elected officials, "You" need to join pro-second amendment organizations, like the GOA and the NRA. "You" need to go to local government meetings and voice your opinions. *****Big ol' SNIP***** If you are offended by reading this post, then YOU are PROBABLY the guy this post is aimed at! -WorldMariner[/FONT][/COLOR]
I started to read this, then I ran across some gibberish about writing my congressman, or something. I not exactly offended by this post. I'm more...well, embarrassed. Not embarrassed for ME! No no no... I'm embarrassed for anybody reading this ridiculous drivel who still is naive enough to believe that the elitists in the U.S. Goobermint give a FLYING FUKK what we think about ANYTHING. "Write your member of congress!! It's their job to listen!!" :4_1_72::puke: Dude. Please. Enough already. They. Aren't. Listening. To. Us. Anymore. We are on our own. Get used to it. :507:

Twisted Avatar | 12-10-2008 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1459936) Dude. Please. Enough already. They. Aren't. Listening. To. Us. Anymore. :507:
Correction: They never did .........unless something cold,long and black was pointed at them. T

wallew | 12-10-2008 10:24 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Worldmariner, Your statement : Quote:
Writing letters and being politically active is what causes change
shows how little you know about our system. I've been doing this for more than thirty years. Guess what? The politicians DO NOT CARE what you think or what the people want. They have their own agenda and don't need us at all. Wake up and realize that the politicians are OUR ruling class. Period, end of story. I've walked around the Gov of Colorado's house in the freezing cold. It took another four years of voting guys out of office to FINALLY get CCW. And it had NOTHING to do with writing letters and being 'politically active'. I've written (both hand written and typed - pre computer) hundreds of letters. I've attended more public meetings than you can imagine. This past year I spent three months working in 'the other guys' campaign headquarters and was interviewed by Michael Medved on air about WHY I had gotten involved. While it was the most fascinating view into our system, it once again pointed out that WE actually have no impact what so ever. It has everything to do about VOTING. THAT'S ALL. And after the last election with all the electronic fraud that went on, even THAT no longer makes a difference. So while you may THINK being 'politically active' is the answer, you are wrong. If you think writing letters helps, then answer me this. WHY THEN, WITH PUBLIC SENTIMENT RUNNING 100 to 1 AGAINST THE FIRST 700 BILLION DOLLAR BAILOUT (according to all the senators and congresscritters), ALL THE POLITICIANS VOTED IT IN? Sorry, but we mean diddly to these people any more. And I'm not taking it out on you. It's just you express a sentiment that so many do who STILL think that you or I can actually make a difference. That is an incorrect fact.

Drumblebum | 12-10-2008 10:28 PM
Re: Obama: Don't stock up on guns Finally..FINALLY!!! I agree 99.725% with wallew's post. Hallelujah.:clap2::23_28_100s:

Twisted Avatar | 12-10-2008 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1459969) WHY THEN, WITH PUBLIC SENTIMENT RUNNING 100 to 1 AGAINST THE FIRST 700 BILLION DOLLAR BAILOUT (according to all the senators and congresscritters), ALL THE POLITICIANS VOTED IT IN?
Because Gubbermint gets..........what Gubbermint wants. That first "failed attempt" was just to string you along to make you believe your imput and feelings actually mattered. T

GreenSpirit | 12-10-2008 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1457462) Dont worry about it Rememeber this axiom: If you have gold you may not always be able to get a gun. If you have a gun you always can get yourself some gold.:ok: T
'cause if you have a gun you can shoot the guy with just gold and take it from his dead body. That's it, right TA? :thumb.aspx:

Twisted Avatar | 12-11-2008 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1460035) 'cause if you have a gun you can shoot the guy with just gold and take it from his dead body. That's it, right TA? :thumb.aspx:
Well I personally wouldnt do it........ I am just stating a matter of fact. If you are armed you have options that can be expressed either way. Some people will abuse there power......plain and simple. T

The Argent Dragon | 12-12-2008 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1460570) If you are armed you have options that can be expressed either way. T
Exactly.......just a presence of a weapon can alter the situation......some people 'piss' in their pants just at the sight of a gun. Yeah, buddy - drop your GOLD and RUN Forrest, RUN !!!!!

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