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madcow | 02-27-2009 05:33 PM
Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? I'm a complete noob when it comes to assault rifles - learning, but still clueless. Can some kind GIM soul tell me if this is a good deal for $699? Seems reasonable to me and is the far less than the Smith and Wesson M&P15 I was looking at at Sportsman's Warehouse for $999. This would be for the range, plinking and obviously TSHTF scenario. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta.../olympica1.jpg Also, this is chambered 5.56 and as I understand it will shoot .223 Remington too without issue, but one should not shoot 5.56 through a .223 chambered weapon? Thanks. Here's the link on the specs and price: http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta...roduct347.aspx

elroy | 02-27-2009 05:42 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? I don't own any AR15s so I am speaking based on what I have read and heard. Olympic AR15s are the brand most people say to pass up. However for a little plinking and a SHTF weapon an Olympic would probably fill the need. I would imagine unless you are shooting on a regular basis you would be wasting money to buy a highly accurate longer range rifle. A great rifle doesn't make an inexperienced shooter a great shot. The S&W M&P 15 is one of the better ones on the market but not the best. Somewhere on the web is a chart of different brand AR15s and all of their specs. Comparison of different brands http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...jFwPrgTA&hl=en Another chart http://ingunowners.com/forums/long_g...n_ar_15_a.html

SilverCity | 02-27-2009 06:03 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Olys are lower tier ARs. They do make good barrels (darkened stainless), but are not chrome lined... Biggest concern for me would be the bolt/carrier group, which is probably okay and can always be ungraded to higher quality. I doubt you would have much trouble with the Oly, but if I only owned one AR, I would rather spend the money for something a little higher quality like Bushmaster, Rock River, Colt, Stag Arms, etc.

Rebel Yarr | 02-27-2009 06:53 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? great rifle for the price - hard to beat. If you want to upgrade it later - you can simply buy a new upper. good deal -get it.

TTAZZMAN | 02-27-2009 07:02 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Olys...SUM (stainless ultra match) broach cut barrels are in my opinion some of the most acurate off shelf in the business.. that being said Oly also has some lower standard stuff that is as previously posted lower tier stuff

igorthesmall | 02-27-2009 11:27 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Olympic Arms are total pieces of $hit. If you buy one, buy a case of ammo to go with it, and you will EASILY have a lifetime supply. For the same price you can get a no name parts kit from M&A parts. While I dont think much of parts guns, they are a million times better than the crap that Olympic Arms builds.

Satyr | 02-27-2009 11:36 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? You get what you pay for. I love and am proud of my Stag 2T. It set me back close to $1,100, but is well worth it. Sure, you can save some cash now by going with the cheaper OLY, but is just not worth it in the long run. But, again, if you're strapped for cash and want one now (and they are available), go for it. Like Rebel said, you can always upgrade later.

gopher29 | 02-27-2009 11:44 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? I own two Olympic Arms ARs and have found nothing to complain about. Most of the people that bash them online are people that have no experience with them. I can personally attest to the fact that my PCR-4 and CAR-97 models have performed flawlessly for me and are not ammo picky. Unlike many Bushmaster rifles I have seen, my OlyArms do not even get steel casings stuck in their chambers. As far as the barrels go, why would anyone need to chrome plate a stainless steel ultramatch barrel?

gopher29 | 02-27-2009 11:46 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Quote:
Originally Posted by Satyr (Post 1598842) You get what you pay for.
Not necessarily. It's possible to overpay for something.

igorthesmall | 02-27-2009 11:48 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Quote:
Originally Posted by gopher29 (Post 1598852) I own two Olympic Arms ARs and have found nothing to complain about. Most of the people that bash them online are people that have no experience with them. I can personally attest to the fact that my PCR-4 and CAR-97 models have performed flawlessly for me and are not ammo picky. Unlike many Bushmaster rifles I have seen, my OlyArms do not even get steel casings stuck in their chambers. As far as the barrels go, why would anyone need to chrome plate a stainless steel ultramatch barrel?
How many rounds have you shot from each? Also, maybe you did get lucky and managed to get a good rifle, unfortunately, there are MANY people who bash Olympic arms because they got a piece of junk rifle, and the customer service at Olympic is about on the level of what you get at places like the post office, the DMV, or a VA hospital.

ruprick | 02-28-2009 12:04 AM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? I have looked at them...and imaging they are fine rifles. I do not have first hand experience with them. I own an Armalite. I figure all these AR's are about the same.....and if you are buying new why not just pay a little bit more and get a very well respected name and take no chances.... I like Colt and Armalite for the big name outfits and I know there are lots others that folks here like....there does not seem to be a lot of spread in the prices.... BTW: a lot of folks will say get the removable carry handle...not a bad idea...but do not get too hung up on this idea. You will probably only use it with open sights anyway....battle rifles are meant to have open sights.....and you can easily add optics to the fixed handle model......and the handle mount is perfect height to add a scope rail on top of the handle....it has to be up very high to clear the front sight.....so either mount on the handle or use tall mounts....

igorthesmall | 02-28-2009 12:27 AM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1598878) I have looked at them...and imaging they are fine rifles. I do not have first hand experience with them. I own an Armalite. I figure all these AR's are about the same.....and if you are buying new why not just pay a little bit more and get a very well respected name and take no chances.... I like Colt and Armalite for the big name outfits and I know there are lots others that folks here like....there does not seem to be a lot of spread in the prices....
Right now there is a HUGE difference in price between colts and olympic. Colt 6920's are going for $1600-$1800 on gunbroker right now. Not to mention, anyone know why steel core surplus ammo in 7.62x39 is not imported into this country? Because the retard who owns Olympic Arms decided screwed it up for everyone. That right there is a reason not to buy a gun from him (as if there werent enough already)

graspAU | 02-28-2009 11:36 AM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Like someone else said, I would probably upgrade to a LMT or BCG M16 Bolt Carrier Group. That would give me some piece of mind. Other than that I might stake the lower receiver plate (a do it yourself job).

FireMattMillen | 02-28-2009 06:14 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? I ordered that same gun from Atlantic Firearms. I have no problems with it. If it was a crappy gun, why would they offer a lifetime warranty? You can shoot 5.56 and .223 if the gun is chambered 5.56. If the gun is chambered .223, you can only shoot .223.

TTAZZMAN | 02-28-2009 06:58 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? I am amazed at the negative comments about Olys....i think everyone that posts negatives I for one would like to know what personal experience they have had and what the issues were. Oly has recieved a lot of online bashing in my opinion it was because other companys couldnt compete with the price value structure so the only way was to bash bash bash MY personal experience I own a Olympic arms PCR-3 ..its a SUM barreled 16" gun...i bought it used...i have shot at least 5k rounds though it...its chambered for .223....it shoots sub 1 moa with just about any ammo ...and shoots sub 1/2 moa with match grade ammo....i have never had a gun related FTF or FTL...no jambs..no excessive wear...no issues ever not even one...it is one Heck of a tack driving son of a gun for a 16" barreled gun i have not shot anything that compares (btw the trigger is fantastic on this one too being used i dont know if it has had trigger work before i got it or not) I also own a DPMS AR i bought new and paid at least twice the price.....if you compare the reciever and upper fit finish and general quality...quite frankly the Oly is superior or same in all reguards. I have heard you definitely want to make sure the Oly has a Forged reciever instead of a cast reciever my Oly is at least 6-7 years old and one of the better quality models with the SUM223 barrel i of course do not have personal experience with any later or other models..

SilverCity | 02-28-2009 07:13 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? My experience was years ago with a carbine upper. Stainless (blackened) barrel, no markings as to twist rate, but accurate, and no issues. Some of the lowers Olympic made back then were cast, not forged (my preference) and some models seemed to have loose upper/lower receiver fit. Not what we considered top tier at the time. But then, Colt was the one to get and Bushmasters were even viewed as sub-Colt-standard...go figure. We did not have the choices back then. From what I have gathered through from other forums, people are generally okay with the newest versions.

British Sovereign | 02-28-2009 09:31 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 1599907) I ordered that same gun from Atlantic Firearms. I have no problems with it. If it was a crappy gun, why would they offer a lifetime warranty? You can shoot 5.56 and .223 if the gun is chambered 5.56. If the gun is chambered .223, you can only shoot .223.
Come on now experts... Am I the only one that noticed this misinformation?

hypervel | 02-28-2009 09:45 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Oly's got bad press when they went for the cheap market back when with cast receivers. > insert blah blah expert BS here< ....and fully recognize that the vast majority of firearm owners are about the bling factor. That is why you get soooooooooo much name/ model mention. "OOOOHHHHH I've got an Umptysquatch 5000....you don't?" * eyebrows raised in condescention* The better gun-presuming a base level of quality- is only as worthwhile as the shooter makes it. Go get your Oly. Geez, mil spec is mil spec.........except for barrels.........and you don't need chrome unless you're a loser at maintenance or heading to Mr. Jungle. Furthermore (you had to get me started) It's my recollection that chrome lined barrels have been blamed for a relative lack of accuracy due to variances in the deposit thickness in the barrel. How true? Dunno. Whatever you buy as an AR, be sure to get a comprehensive parts kit for it. Don't say I didn't warn you.

SilverCity | 02-28-2009 10:14 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Quote:
Originally Posted by British Sovereign (Post 1600223) Come on now experts... Am I the only one that noticed this misinformation?
Yawn...beat to death already on other threads.

SilverCity | 02-28-2009 10:24 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Quote:
Originally Posted by hypervel (Post 1600253) It's my recollection that chrome lined barrels have been blamed for a relative lack of accuracy due to variances in the deposit thickness in the barrel. How true? Dunno.
True, stainless and chrome moly match barrels are not chrome-lined to maximize potential accuracy. However, chrome-lined barrels are not inaccurate. In any lined AR I have owned (currently eight), .75 to 1.0 MOA is common and 1/2 MOA quite achieveable with the right ammunition.

igorthesmall | 02-28-2009 11:14 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Here are what a lot of people have to say about Olympic Arms Quote:
Originally Posted By Banzai: I USED TO SELL OLYMPICS. I also stock Colts, BM, RRA, and AR. Wanna know what the #1 most repaired AR15 in my shop is? OLYMPIC. I don't sell them anymore. Wanna know what the most repaired AR15 in my store is now? Still the OLYMPIC. Wanna know what I've had to send Olys back for? You name it. Wanna know how hard it is to get repair parts/replacement parts/financial reimbursement for shipping NEW guns back to OLY for warranty work as a gun dealer? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!! Several distributors have even stopped carrying Olympic rifles because of the high reject rate once they get to the dealers. They might, sometimes, take care of the individual owner, but as a dealer, I believe that they have a black list, and if you're on it, you're screwed. I've actually had OLY on the phone with a customer in my shop, and they have actually told the guy that there was nothing wrong, and if he shipped it back, they would not fix it. The rifle had a broken bolt. Sheared off 2 lugs, broke at the cam pin hole, and damaged the bolt carrier. I fixed it, with BM parts that were available to me at the time. I sent the bill to OLY, never got a response. Sold the debt off to a collection agency, along with all the other repairs that I had to do on OLY guns. Now, if an OLY comes in for repair, I advise the individual that it will cost them an open ended amount and get them to sign the estimate before I'll even touch it. SHOT show 2002 I took them a box of the parts that I had replaced from their guns that I could not get reimbursement for. I'll guarntee I've owned/handled/shot more OLYs since 1999 than you ever will, unless you work at Oly or a gun store. There is, at best 15% profit in retail guns. Olys eat up my 15% on repair parts/shipping/gunsmith time almost as soon as they get unpacked. No more! Now, about their issues, still "Pretty sure they have been resolved by now" ????? Or is my post worthless, too? Tom And…. Originally Posted By zoom: ...With my Oly lower, that jerk blamed the magazines even though my cast Oly lower was so out of spec that the back of an inserted magazine hits the bolt and keeps the bolt from closing. This was after trying about 30 different magazines at a gun show. None of them worked. Tom called me lazy since I was unwilling to modify all of the magazines I own rather than asking for an RMA #. I modified a couple of magazines anyway, but while shooting they'd still work their way upward to block the bolt. I've had that piece of junk for over five years, and I have never gotten anywhere towards getting them to honor their warranty. They just don't give a damn.z and.. Originally Posted By www-glock19-com: WEeused to be a Oly dealer used to be the operative word We had to send probably 25% of the cast plinkers we sold back for repair and probably 10% of the regular Olys had about the same luck with DPMS probably sold about 50 plinkers The failure rate of the other better ( A ,B ,C ,RRA) brands is probably about 1% in my experence and this guy .. Originally Posted By MACE_Hardware: My first AR was a CAR15 Oly kit. The bolt carrier was tight in the upper until I honed the upper. I figured it was a kit so I should not be upset about some fitting. And.. Originally Posted By AR15_Machine: I bought an Oly Arms 15 years ago and after using it on 5 different occasions the bolt catch broke. The part looked like broken pot metal. Any way, Mine was bought 15 years ago at a gun show, perhaps the newer modles are of better quality forged uppers and lowers, where mine is clearly cast. My next one might be a stag, but not sure. My Oly arms looks great and shoots very well, but I often wonder what is the next part that is going to bust. And my good man, Hellhound… Originally Posted By Hellhound: I bought a NEW FACTORY 16" Oly CAR back in 1993-1994, with a non-chrome barrel––-I bought their marketing BS.... The barrel was shit. Would jam (feeding and extraction) about 5 rounds into a mag and then jam about every 2. Went through new springs for the extractor, the little o ring thingie, chamber brushing, new mags (USGI), everything imaginable.... I sold the barrel to someone who was going to use it for a .22 conversion, great idea for them. I bought a chrome-lined RRA middie barrel, installed it on my Oly and have had 0 problems. The other components of the gun are just fine, no problems there. Spend a little more money and get a better barrel, it will save you a lot of aggravation. Please don't make the same mistake I made. another satisfied customer... Originally Posted By tweeter: I loved them so much I made an active effort to get rid of mine. Like a relationship with a crazy woman, I could tolerate the flaws at first. Mostly because I got the results I was looking for, then the flaws became un-freaking-bearable. I found out I could do a lot better... Oly got kicked to the curb. and this... Originally Posted By M4: I used to live in Olympia WA...and after calling Oly Arms, drove out to check out their facility. When I got there, a few things became rather clear. 1) Their "factory" looked like the set of Sanford & Son. (Absolutely NOT kidding) 2) Despite being told "Sure, come on down!" on the phone, when I got there, I was dealt with like I was Diane Feinstein by EVERYONE. One guy was pleasant and answered my questions...so not a total disaster, but the rest were pricks in general. 3) There was nothing and I mean NOTHING about their "facility" that looked suitable for manufacturing dog toys, let alone firearms. If you never get a 2nd chance to make 1st impressions, Oly lost me COMPLETELY with that one. and this sad tale... Originally Posted By extxdpscamaro: I bought a new plinker back in '04 since it was cheap and new. I also bought some Black Hills ammo and shot the first box of 20 fine the second box didn't go as fine. On my 32nd round I heard a loud "clank" inside of the plinker and so I pulled the mag, emptied the chamber, well, I tried to empty the chamber but couldn't. I tried to engage the safety and couldn't. I tried to break the rifle apart and couldn't. I eventually had to take off the stock and buffer tube. When I took the tube off, I found that the buffer and spring were inside the upper receiver. I took them out then was able to open the gun to see what was going on. The lower receiver broke right in front of the buffer retaining pin, throwing the retaining pin into the trigger grouping. I called Olympic and wanted to see what could be done and they say I would have to pay for shipping both ways and the armorers hourly rate was $55/hr. I told them that I wasn't happy and offered some stickers for my inconvenience. I have since parted the gun and washed my hands of the worst experience I've ever had with a firearm. I've then since owned RRA, Bushmaster, Armalite, DPMS, even Colt and would go back to them again and again. Learn from our COSTLY mistakes and be happier! we're on a roll here: Originally Posted By gmtmaster: I sent a lower in to them for repair. Pin holes so mis aligned it wasnt even funny. Took them 3 MONTHS to tell me there was nothing wrong with it . But they replaced it anyway. Different serial #.. Same exact problem. My dog...Can build a better gun. pictures are worth 1000 words... Originally Posted By Jetlag: img329.imageshack.us/img329/3096/olyrcvryi3.jpg img329.imageshack.us/img329/843/olybarldi7.jpg Tales of woe... Originally Posted By Phessor: I had one KABOOM on me with less then 300 rounds through it. And then Oly lied about what caused the problem. I will never own another one again. Phessor More... Originally Posted By DFC: OlY has been around for a long time, I used their receivers in the 80's to build machine guns. I can't tell you the amount of brand new rejected parts that were returned to OLY for replacement. They are still in business!!! I think there is a saying, kinda like. There's a fool born every minute of the day. So if you are one. More... Originally Posted By flyboy1910: I've shopped at Prairie Arms. The owner recommended an Oly saying they " make best AR-15 on the market". Haven't been back, and I would not call them a reliable source of information. Pick up an Oly he had on the shelf and hand cycled it. Felt like the inner workings were lined with sand paper (not typical pre-break in either). Needless to say, I didn't buy it. Jesus... Originally Posted By Glockfan: I owned one and never again a total pos and even worst service. These guys are scum in my opinion and will never get another dollar from me. Pat More... Originally Posted By Baldmonk: Yes, they are that bad. How they stay in business is beyond comprehension. I have one. The only part left original OLY is the lower and even the parts kit has been changed out to a RRA match kit. Therefore the only part left original OLY is the stripped lower, which is the part that matters the least. OLY = Caveat Emptor. AR15fan shares his wisdom... Originally Posted By AR15fan: Ive broke an oly forward assist, several bolt catches, a mag catch, wore out hammer springs, disconnector springs, extractor spring, dimpled firing pins, handguard that fitr with gaps, receiver end plates had the finish flake off and rust, frozen bolt catch detents, frozen safety detents. I wont buy anotrher Oly product, ever. For budget parts i go with DPMS, Bushmaster & CMT. If i need better quality then that i buy Colt from Brownells or SAW. MauserMark checks in... Originally Posted By MauserMark: I saw at a shoot here a bolt seperate. Don't remember which arfcom member's it was, but it seperated in use, and it was an Oly bolt. More... Originally Posted By SHIPSNIPE1: Yes, I do have the unfortunate experience of having owned some Oly products and did try to assemble a couple of their lowers for a friend once. I learned the lesson. The horror… Originally Posted By LUGERMAN: My Buddy bought one over my protest. On it's second outing with Winchester White box, the barrel seperated from the receiver. And… Originally Posted By Aimless: Blech, the one I saw broke it's bolt the first day it was fired. You won't find a reputable gunsmith who works on ARs or an experienced carbine instructor who would recommend an Oly. And… Originally Posted By deltaheavy: Had (past tense) an Oly stripped cast lower that I was going to use for my first build. Had to take a file to the magazine well before it would accept USGI magazines. As in they had to be crammed and beaten into a stripped lower, not that they just wouldn't drop free. Offloaded that thing PDQ. Tried again with an A1 upper. Bushmaster and Colt bolt carriers bound up in the receiver. Could see the bright shiny marks in the upper where the carriers were rubbing. Also the takedown/pivot pin holes were mis-aligned (badly). That was the last time I ever even considered Oly as a source for AR15 parts of any kind. I stay far away now. Amusing story… Originally Posted By allestergrendel: I had an Olympic arms lower I bought from their shop, and promptly got rid of it after letting it sit on my desk for a few weeks. The more I look at it the more problems I found! The threads in the back for the buttstock had numerous large ugly burrs, The finish was chipped in a few places and the Oly stamp on the side looked like shit. Luck was in favor the day I traded it...I was at a gun show and fell in love with the superb Mega Gator lower. I watched a table that had a couple and when the head honcho stepped out for lunch I asked his less experienced co-hort how much he wanted for a swap for the Mega..."O there isn't really a big difference, I will do it for nothing! Just have to call it in is all..." So we swapped, and I happened to walk back by the table a half hour later to hear him getting CHEWED out for doing the swap, and the owner happened to look up to see me and give me a glare like I had just shoved a toilet brush up his ass! So put my lower together with a RRA 2 stage trigger and Oly lower parts thinking that the small stuff wouldn't be a big deal, but o was I wrong!! The safety selectory was POORLY made and had a lot of travel. If you had any contact with the selector when firing it wouldnt fire until you took the pressure off. I know you may be thinking "who the touches that while firing!!" But you shot from the prone unsupported or standing CQB position and tell me your finger doesnt graze the selector o so lightly.. Long story short: Oly arms parts are rough cut and caused me a vary real safety threat. I have handled there firearms at the shop and they are rough cut (you can see heavy straitions on thier bolt carriers) and fell like sand paper when you charge the weapon. Go with someone else...In My Honest Opinion Avoid Oly… Originally Posted By phoenix27: Yeah, I own an Oly and it is totally non-spec. You can't exchange it with anything but itself and hope that it works by itself with the parts that they put in it. All of my Bushies, Colts and RRAs feature interchangeable parts (bolts, uppers, lowers, etc.). I tried doing that with my Oly and it was scary, nothing seems to fit on anyone else's platform. Of course Oly will tell you that their guns are the only ones in spec and that everyone else's is out of spec. Of course we all know that that is pure BS and has been well-documented to be just the opposite. My Oly is a CAR-15 9MM. The finish is crap and the front sight post is off a bit, causing radical corrections on the rear sight post to get a zero. Their stated solution for this problem was to have me bang the crap out of the front sight post with a rubber mallet. As I mentioned, the parts don't exchange well with anyone else's ARs. I have shot 5K rounds thru mine and so far so good, but I dread the day something serious happens to it. Best advice, avoid the Oly and get a used Bushy, RRA or Colt. At least with these, you can buy milspec aftermarket parts and know that they should fit okay. The truth is always the easiest story to tell and this is total word up, bro. Take his advice… Originally Posted By CoffinNail: Alright, my first mistake was ordering the Olympic Arms stripped lower. Thought what the hell, I can build a good gun on this platform. Used CMMG lower kit for internals. Stag Arms (commercial) tube and stock. The upper is a JT distributing 14.5 lightweight. The problems soon began when I assembled the front take down pin. The pin would not fit at all. Used tried some other front take down pin I has lying around (RRA, Colt, Bushmaster) with the same result. Took a jewelers file to lowers hole and was able to get the pin to fit snug. Then when trying to insert the pin it seemed to hit the other hole a bit off center. Filed that a bit and the pin now fits. Assemble the upper and lower, beautiful fit. Insert a Brownells mag and it won’t “fit” and it seems to rub on the inside of the upper. A few of the after market mags will fit but not drop free and have to be pulled out. Now I’m out of ideas and looking for any and all ideas on how to fit this…. This guy gets it Originally Posted By phoenix27: +1 for us Oly suckers who got screwed. They will tell you that everyone else's parts are out of spec. Must be something funny in the water up in Washington state. This guy wound up happy, but… Originally Posted By advntrjnky: i had the same problems with my Oly lower. it was a few years from when i bought it and built it. in that time i had other Oly parts that wore out premature and decided it wasn't worth my effort call them on their "lifetime warranty". i used it for a fixed carry handle .30 HRT build for deer hunting......it doesn't matter if my mag drops free or not while hunting. the upper and lower fit real tight, which makes it a nice quiet rifle in the woods. overalll I'm happy with how it turned out. build it into something! advntrjnky Freefall knows what he is talking about: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: I had the same issue with mine. The takedown pin holes were off as well as the rear detent pin hole. It was obvious that a blind monkey made it, so I sent it back for a full refund. I cost me shipping, the FFL fee and a week of being pissed off. I got a RRA lower instead. For the headache I endured I will never buy Olympic again. Good luck I hope things work out. FREE And… Originally Posted By BSheppard: I have owned two oly lowers before I knew better. They were both out of spec so bad that Thermolds would not fit. The finish was so bad I had to refinish both. Oly is the lowest of the low IMO. I would take a ASA or Hess or Vulcan over an Oly anyday. More… Originally Posted By 45undude: I recently ordered a 7.62X39 barrel from Oly. When it arrived, I was surprised to see a post-ban barrel. I called them and asked why they sent this instead of a pre-ban barrel. First I was told, "That's what you ordered off the website." When I responded to the person to whom I was speaking,"No, I ordered it over the phone and you were the very one who took the order", he said, "well, many states still have laws prohibiting them", I asked how many and why did he think I wanted one in Louisiana? Then he said that the website had a selection for post-ban or pre-ban. We got on the website together and, lo, all of the pictures were pre-ban and no mention of post-ban . I then asked if they had a pre-ban in stock? Of course not. I then asked if they would thread it properly. I was then told it could be weeks since the machine, barrel and machinist had to "come together. What a crock!" It is the last time I will order from Oly. Their customer service is non-existant. Rather than saying they made a mistake, they tried to make it seem as if I made the mistake (well, I did. I ordered from them) and then would not even offer to take the barrel back and thread it. He did say that it appeared that the website was in error and he "would tell someone about it." Now, I have to get it threaded. A word to the wise - be careful if you order from them - you may not get what you want. And… Originally Posted By PursuitSS: Sunday a group of us got together to shoot, a "friend of a friend" brought his new Olympic Arms AR. He complained that the safety wouldn't rotate to safe. He informed me that originally the safety DID work but after firing several magazines the safety would no longer go to safe. I offered to check it out, upon beginning to disassemble the carbine I found several LARGE steel shavings in the trigger group area. It appeared that they had came off of the hammer and trigger. The sear engagement on the hammer was POORLY cast and after machining had less than a 40% engagement with the trigger. The front of the trigger where it is machined to engage the hammer was also less than stellar! I changed the parts out to new Rock River trigger components and the problem was solved, it sure appears that Olympic has a very lax QA/QC. PursuitSS Again… Originally Posted By Baldmonk: Have 1. Bought new in 1993. Every item on the gun has been replaced due to failure except the lower and even the LPK has been replaced. The barrel bore was even off center. When the barrel heated up it would walk bad to the 3 o'clock position. SO YES, I have a great deal of experience in the crap they produce. More… Originally Posted By M4Madness: A guy down the road from me bought a brand new Oly. Before he finished the third 30-round mag, the upper receiver blew apart, and the lower was cracked down both sides. Oly refused to warranty it because he was using Wolf ammo, so he lost a new AR-15 without any compensation. And… Originally Posted By tamu94: Here are some stats that involve myself, family, and friends: 2 Olys - Total crap. You cant fire more than half a mag without a FTE and having to use a cleaning rod to knock it out. Chamber is out of spec on both (even if you use .223 ammo)! Muzzle break fell off one also. Take down pins look like they were machined by a troll (so does the front site), hand guard doesn't have a heat shield, incorrect front site on one requires extra tall site post and it still is almost backed all the way out ..... Get the picture? We warned the Oly buyers - you get what you pay for. Sure, they put out some that work but why take the risk? If you intend to actually use the gun as a weapon instead of a safe queen you would be crazy to rely upon an Oly.

SilverCity | 02-28-2009 11:37 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? LOL...thanks for those vivid testimonials, Igor...:emotions16: I would think twice about recommending one after reading those comments. Here are some other opinions from The High Road forum: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=431220

Twisted Avatar | 03-03-2009 02:09 PM
Re: Olympic Arms AR-15. Is this a good deal? Originally Posted By M4: I used to live in Olympia WA...and after calling Oly Arms, drove out to check out their facility. When I got there, a few things became rather clear. 1) Their "factory" looked like the set of Sanford & Son. (Absolutely NOT kidding) 2) Despite being told "Sure, come on down!" on the phone, when I got there, I was dealt with like I was Diane Feinstein by EVERYONE. One guy was pleasant and answered my questions...so not a total disaster, but the rest were pricks in general. 3) There was nothing and I mean NOTHING about their "facility" that looked suitable for manufacturing dog toys, let alone firearms. If you never get a 2nd chance to make 1st impressions, Oly lost me COMPLETELY with that one :4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72:

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