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Merlin | 07-10-2008 10:20 PM
NRA Membership??? Should I do it? OK, so I bought a revolver and some ammunition and took an NRA 10 1/2 hour firearms course at the local gun range. Now, I've gotten offers in the mail to join the NRA, which can be up to $100 for 5 years. Is this something I should do? Is the NRA an effective advocate for 2nd Amendment rights? Do any GIM members also maintain NRA memberships? Please give me some insights. I want to do the right thing. I just know there are folks on this forum with some strong opinions on this subject.

Caligula | 07-10-2008 10:23 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? I told them to shove my membership up their ass when they totally ignored Ron Paul. They are dead to me. Go GOA instead.... http://www.gunowners.org/

J.D.Rockinfeller | 07-10-2008 10:29 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Caligula (Post 1186241) I told them to shove my membership up their ass when they totally ignored Ron Paul. They are dead to me. Go GOA instead.... http://www.gunowners.org/
They (nra)have a sheenie running it now:thumbs do:thumbs do

Infidel | 07-10-2008 10:35 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? NRA = House of Whores

Jaxon | 07-10-2008 10:38 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? I joined, but I won't be giving them more than $10/year. You also get $1,000 worth of firearms insurance just for being a member. It's hard to beat that deal. I also joined GOA.

Merlin | 07-10-2008 10:38 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by J.D.Rockinfeller (Post 1186254) They (nra)have a sheenie running it now:thumbs do:thumbs do
So, call me stupid. I went looking for a definition of "sheenie" and found "Slang: Disparaging and Offensive," which is not very helpful. And your point is what?

Black Blade | 07-10-2008 10:48 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? I'm a member. Strength in numbers. The next prez will be a Chicago communist leading a Congress dominated by the American Communist Party and among the first orders of business will likely be to begin the disarming of Americans.

Abouthadit | 07-10-2008 11:12 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? short answer: NO the nra has sold out. Join GOA

Big_Rob | 07-10-2008 11:19 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Im a member of the NRA only because it was a gift. I'm going to be joining GOA tomorrow because we need all the support we can get in the coming times where we as gun owners will be ostrasized more than anytime in our past.

____hoot____ | 07-10-2008 11:30 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Ya, they are crooked and controled at the top,but you don't "throw the bums out" from the outside. This is from a former member that left with Niel Knox.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 07-10-2008 11:45 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by J.D.Rockinfeller (Post 1186254) They (nra)have a sheenie running it now:thumbs do:thumbs do
The answer is no, she moved on.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 07-10-2008 11:47 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? The NRA does some good stuff. They were instrumental in passing the law that prohibits government from confiscating weapons during civil emergencies as was done after Katrina. They also helped defeat the anti handgun measures that were almost passed in San Francisco. They actually get stuff done. I know that Gun Owners of America are liked better by some people but I never hear of them actually getting pro gun laws passed. Yes, join the NRA.

FireMattMillen | 07-10-2008 11:50 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Absolutely. As someone said earlier, strength in numbers. I'm a member of both the NRA and the GOA. True, the NRA compromises, but when it comes to Obama's gun confiscation I want a 4M member organization fighting on our side.

gangsta99 | 07-10-2008 11:54 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? I am sorry but if anyone has any pull with GOA get them to drop that Lifelock advertising BS. Lifelock is nothing but a scam. I can't join a group that promotes such scams.

platinumdude | 07-11-2008 12:14 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? I think it's best to be a member of neither, and be tracked less as a gun owner.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 07-11-2008 12:19 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1186383) I think it's best to be a member of neither, and be tracked less as a gun owner.
Luckily not everyone thinks this way but to each his own of course.

eat_beef | 07-11-2008 08:25 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Like the BATFE needs to data mine NRA or GOA to know you own firearms.:hahaha: Before joining the NRA, one should ask themselves why the self appointed Second Coming of 'Second Ammendment support groups' lobbied FOR the GCA, and the NFA. As my old buddy Hoarder used to say, Que Bono?

jrog100 | 07-11-2008 09:16 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Ofcourse you should join. The statement "the NRA sold us out" is a bunch of stupid horseshit. There is no other organization that has as much power to fight for gun owners rights than the NRA. Who was it that sued DC on behalf of Heller? They are also in the process of suing the cities of Chicago and SF for their illegal gun bans. Some people say "JOIN THE GOA, THEY'RE BETTER"? WTF, I've never once heard them mentioned in the news going to bat for gun owners. They aren't a perfect oganization. There's no such thing. They do the best that they can which is a lot. So, the answer is yes. Join the NRA.

graspAU | 07-11-2008 09:31 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Join the NRA and GOA. The NRA does support the shooting sports very well in addition to the legal aspect. They are not a perfect organization and can't make everyone happy, but they are worth joining in my opinion. I also joined the JPFO and I'm not even Jewish. So think about joining all 3. My private gun club requires membership. I think one of the reasons is that the NRA supports the matches administratively. All of the match scores go into the NRA and they give out shooting rankings.

Squirrel Bait | 07-11-2008 09:39 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? YES, and GOA too. If it weren't for groups like these we would have lost much more of the 2nd Ammendment. What I don't like about the NRA is they keep calling and asking for money. Nothing pisses me off like that. All the mailings too. Just give me my magazine and leave me alone. s

Between The Wheels | 07-11-2008 09:41 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? take a look at Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org

107.8682 | 07-11-2008 10:50 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? No, you should not join the National Retreat Association.

107.8682 | 07-11-2008 10:51 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1186271) So, call me stupid. I went looking for a definition of "sheenie" and found "Slang: Disparaging and Offensive," which is not very helpful. And your point is what?
His point is that Jews are overwhelmingly in favor of gun control, anomalies like JPFO notwithstanding.

Silver Shield | 07-11-2008 10:52 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Gun Owners of America

107.8682 | 07-11-2008 10:55 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 1186342) The NRA does some good stuff. They were instrumental in passing the law that prohibits government from confiscating weapons during civil emergencies as was done after Katrina. They also helped defeat the anti handgun measures that were almost passed in San Francisco. They actually get stuff done. I know that Gun Owners of America are liked better by some people but I never hear of them actually getting pro gun laws passed. Yes, join the NRA.
The NRA attains "victories" in the same way the French do: by retreating and then calling for an armistice in stages. Like the frog in water slowly gaining in temperature. Take the NRA membership dues and buy guns and ammunition. Legal maneuvering and lawyer games ain't going to stop it.

107.8682 | 07-11-2008 10:57 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Between The Wheels (Post 1186956) take a look at Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org
Why? Everyone knows why it was created - to (vainly) make an attempt to dispel the fact most Jews are in favor of gun control.

Tn...Andy | 07-11-2008 11:01 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? GOA here..........

eat_beef | 07-11-2008 11:12 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1186900) Ofcourse you should join. The statement "the NRA sold us out" is a bunch of stupid horseshit. There is no other organization that has as much power to fight for gun owners rights than the NRA. Who was it that sued DC on behalf of Heller? They are also in the process of suing the cities of Chicago and SF for their illegal gun bans. Some people say "JOIN THE GOA, THEY'RE BETTER"? WTF, I've never once heard them mentioned in the news going to bat for gun owners. They aren't a perfect oganization. There's no such thing. They do the best that they can which is a lot. So, the answer is yes. Join the NRA.
False. The NRA REFUSED to join the Heller case for months. They finally joined after a HUGE grassroots outrage campaign. And even then they were 'foot draggers' by all accounts (other than their own self aggrandizing story). Your statement that the NRA has more power to fight FOR gunowners is correct. Anyone with moderate cognative abilities should ask themselves WHY they don't use this power. Their list of accomplishments is as long and grand as Neville Chaimberlain's. And while I'm on the subject, WHY did the NRA lobby FOR the GCA and NFA? And WHY does their website LIE and say they were against them? Anyone care to explain that, rather than using the 'your facts are horsehockey compared to my opinion' method?

Tn...Andy | 07-11-2008 11:27 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1186900) Some people say "JOIN THE GOA, THEY'RE BETTER"? WTF, I've never once heard them mentioned in the news going to bat for gun owners.
True....because GOA doesn't put out splashy, self congratulatory press releases + the press has the NRA for their poster child for everything that is wrong with guns, so they don't bother even finding out about GOA. NRA has a nice palace there in Fairfax, VA Impressive, ain't it ? http://www.graphicnet.net/images/104.jpg GOA is a little hole-in-the-wall office in an industrial complex about 10 miles away. GUESS WHICH ONE SPENDS A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF INCOME ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK OF FIGHTING GUN CONTROL ??? I'd bet the air conditioning bill alone in the NRA Palace could buy several more Congress Critters.....and we ALL know that's the name of the game.

eyeofliberty | 07-11-2008 11:29 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? You might want to check this out before joining the NRA: http://www.nrawol.net/ I am a member of GOA, and also my state gun rights group, OFF (Oregon Firearms Federation). I would encourage everyone to join a state level group, if you have one. These guys are good, too: NAGR (National Association of Gun Rights)

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eyeofliberty | 07-11-2008 11:33 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1186900) "JOIN THE GOA, THEY'RE BETTER"? WTF, I've never once heard them mentioned in the news going to bat for gun owners.
Yeah, never get any news outta GOA! :sarc: http://www.gunowners.org/svtb.htm :confused_ma: You just don't like 'em because they don't have a flashy full color magazine...

Prometheus | 07-11-2008 11:50 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? **** the NRgAy. You might as well be sending your money to the brady campaign. For me it's GOA.

demosfen | 07-11-2008 12:38 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? NRA exists to sabotage gun rights. It's like joining the Republican party to save the republic

Jonas Parker | 07-11-2008 01:22 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? A "sheenie" is a scrap metal dealer that visits printing companies, usually 2-3 times per year. He has a truck with a scale, and buys used lithographic plates, usually paying cash. The fellow that bought our plates was a black guy out of Chicago. When I owned my company I used the money to take the whole shop out to lunch, and the balance was put into the "coffee fund" to provide coffee (and bread, peanut-butter, and jelly) in the "break room".

Merlin | 07-11-2008 01:40 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas Parker (Post 1187388) A "sheenie" is a scrap metal dealer that visits printing companies, usually 2-3 times per year. He has a truck with a scale, and buys used lithographic plates, usually paying cash. The fellow that bought our plates was a black guy out of Chicago. When I owned my company I used the money to take the whole shop out to lunch, and the balance was put into the "coffee fund" to provide coffee (and bread, peanut-butter, and jelly) in the "break room".
So these scrap metal dealers are vaguely disreputable, much like the old guy in Peoria who used to pedal his cart around town sharpening scissors and knives??? And that's why J.D.Rockinfeller made the comment, "They (nra)have a sheenie running it now" with two thumbs down?

eat_beef | 07-11-2008 03:51 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? No, he meant a Jew, or Jewess, is the President of the NRA. Either way it has no bearing, the NRA sucks regaurdless of the President. I loved Charleton Hesston, but the guy was no proponent of the Second Ammendment.

AZLiberty | 07-11-2008 05:09 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Ok, I am a life member. I joined as a life member so that I could vote for members of the board. I've been unhappy with them for several years, because they have been FAR to willing to compromise with the Anti's. That being said, like an above poster noted, you have to fix them from the inside. To that end, the folks on AR15.com are planning to nominate two of the "arfcom" members to the board come the next NRA board election. You get a pretty decent gun mag (American Rifleman) as a benefit of membership. There are other benefits as well such as the aforementioned insurance. Now that I've muddied the waters, I'll say that the two hardcore pro gun groups to look at are the GOA and the JPFO. (I'm also a GOA life member)

jrog100 | 07-11-2008 09:27 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1187144) False. The NRA REFUSED to join the Heller case for months. They finally joined after a HUGE grassroots outrage campaign. And even then they were 'foot draggers' by all accounts (other than their own self aggrandizing story). Your statement that the NRA has more power to fight FOR gunowners is correct. Anyone with moderate cognative abilities should ask themselves WHY they don't use this power. Their list of accomplishments is as long and grand as Neville Chaimberlain's. And while I'm on the subject, WHY did the NRA lobby FOR the GCA and NFA? And WHY does their website LIE and say they were against them? Anyone care to explain that, rather than using the 'your facts are horsehockey compared to my opinion' method?
So why don't you go join the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Seems you'd fit in better there anyhow. You obviously don't care about anything but COMPLAINING about them not being perfect. You've overlooked everything that the NRA has ever done in it's 122 years. How convenient for support of your short sighted simplistic argument. You really should consider looking it up!

jrog100 | 07-11-2008 09:35 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? For everyone on this board that's an NRA Member, GOA Member, NFF, NAGR member etc., good for you. Trashing any of these organizations is beyond stupid - something Sara Brady would be proud of. These groups support gun rights, period. And that's a good thing.

SilverCity | 07-11-2008 09:48 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Twisted Avatar | 07-11-2008 10:02 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 1186383) I think it's best to be a member of neither, and be tracked less as a gun owner.
BINGO!!!! NO ONE IS ABOVE BEING A SELL OUT EVERY PERSON HAS THERE PRICE.......... WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE NEITHER IS GONNA BE A FOXHOLE WITH YOU FIGHTING OFF THE SHOCKTROOPERS. SAVE THE MONEY FOR AMMO AND MAGS. T

FireMattMillen | 07-11-2008 10:10 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Alright...look at it this way: Let's say that half of the about 90 million gun owners in America were members of the NRA - thats 45 million members, compared to about 4 million now. With 45 million members, would any state or federal government deal with a single gun control law? Not a chance. Strength in numbers.

Twisted Avatar | 07-11-2008 10:13 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 1188156) Alright...look at it this way: Let's say that half of the about 90 million gun owners in America were members of the NRA - thats 45 million members, compared to about 4 million now. With 45 million members, would any state or federal government deal with a single gun control law? Not a chance. Strength in numbers.
STRENGHT IN ACCURACY.....A WELL PLACED BULLET CAN CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY!! T

Prometheus | 07-12-2008 01:53 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1188113) Trashing any of these organizations is beyond stupid - something Sara Brady would be proud of. These groups support gun rights, period. And that's a good thing.
You are either a liar or ignorant as to what the nra actually does. http://www.patriotpages.net/nrafraud.htm Let me guess we should vote for mcInsane because he's 1% better than obamma too right? **** him and **** the nra and any idiot stupid enough to not know the difference. :favorites21:

eat_beef | 07-12-2008 02:59 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? JRogg, I'm still waiting for some facts. So far you've called names and made claims, backed up by nothing. You have not answered WHY the NRA OFTEN lobbies FOR gun control, or WHY they LIE about it.:bear_rolleyes: AZLiberty, I can respect someone like yourself (or Knox) who knows what is going on, but chooses to stay a member to fight for positive change. I have no respect for the 'they're good' and 'they're better than nothing' crowd. I hadn't heard about the ARFCOM thing, if you have a link I'd love to read about it. Should some REAL 2nd Ammendment people be able to have a successful coup, I'd renew my membership in a heartbeat.

AZLiberty | 07-13-2008 04:26 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1189049) JRogg, I hadn't heard about the ARFCOM thing, if you have a link I'd love to read about it. Should some REAL 2nd Ammendment people be able to have a successful coup, I'd renew my membership in a heartbeat.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=137&t=725598

Twisted Avatar | 07-13-2008 05:54 AM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 1188957) You are either a liar or ignorant as to what the nra actually does. http://www.patriotpages.net/nrafraud.htm Let me guess we should vote for mcInsane because he's 1% better than obamma too right? **** him and **** the nra and any idiot stupid enough to not know the difference. :favorites21:
Wow .......... I knew the NRA was bad ... I just didnt know it was THAT bad. Good research link. T

J.D.Rockinfeller | 07-13-2008 09:12 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 1188957) You are either a liar or ignorant as to what the nra actually does. http://www.patriotpages.net/nrafraud.htm Let me guess we should vote for mcInsane because he's 1% better than obamma too right? **** him and **** the nra and any idiot stupid enough to not know the difference. :favorites21:
GO ON!...PREACH Bruthuh...PREEEEACH! :yes:

J.D.Rockinfeller | 07-13-2008 09:14 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1187180) True....because GOA doesn't put out splashy, self congratulatory press releases + the press has the NRA for their poster child for everything that is wrong with guns, so they don't bother even finding out about GOA. NRA has a nice palace there in Fairfax, VA Impressive, ain't it ? http://www.graphicnet.net/images/104.jpg GOA is a little hole-in-the-wall office in an industrial complex about 10 miles away. GUESS WHICH ONE SPENDS A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF INCOME ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK OF FIGHTING GUN CONTROL ??? I'd bet the air conditioning bill alone in the NRA Palace could buy several more Congress Critters.....and we ALL know that's the name of the game.
Not too far from FBI hindquarters....

J.D.Rockinfeller | 07-13-2008 09:16 PM
Re: NRA Membership??? Should I do it? Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 1186271) So, call me stupid. I went looking for a definition of "sheenie" and found "Slang: Disparaging and Offensive," which is not very helpful. And your point is what?
check my avatar:bear_whistle:, as well as WHO has been eroding your gun rights for decades....

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