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Saul Mine | 02-03-2009 06:16 AM
7 items you won't believe are actually legal 7 items you won't believe are actually legal #7. Flamethrowers Holy Sh!t, Really? Yes. There are currently no federal laws governing or restricting the ownership of flame-throwing devices. Some states have laws restricting possession of flamethrowers, with violations only considered to be misdemeanors, but 40 states have absolutely no laws whatsoever concerning flamethrowers. Only in America would a device capable of launching rivers of fire at people be less regulated than marijuana. #6. Salvia Divinorum Holy Sh!t, Really? Salvia divinorum is a member of the Lamiaceae family, which makes it a cousin of the mint plant. When properly prepared, salvia can be smoked in order to bring on incredibly intense, at times paralyzing, hallucinations. Most salvia trips are short in duration, but very powerful and jarring. All side effects of salvia are gone within an hour, and it doesn't show up on standard drug tests. Depending on the amount of smoke inhaled, users of salvia may experience hallucinations on par in intensity with those caused by drugs like LSD or DMT. Since most users lose consciousness and drift off into a world of fractal shapes and green women as soon as they hit the pipe, it has not gained much popularity as a 'party' drug. #5. Tannerite (An Explosive Compound) Holy Sh!t, Really? Tannerite is sold legally as a binary compound, meaning you mix two harmless powders and get something that goes boom. Just apply the mixture to the object you wish to blow up and then hit it with extreme force or heat. #4. Improvised Weaponry Holy Sh!t, Really? Homemade firearms. They are also known as garage guns, Chechnyan Firecrackers and scrap weapons. Most garage guns are made out of easily acquired pieces of trash and industrial debris. They can be as simple as a lead tube with a rubber-band-powered firing pin, or a fully automatic pistol made out of aluminum cans and assorted sprockets. #3. The Ragnar Benson Collection Holy Sh!t, Really? Really, it's nothing more than a collection of self-help books. However, rather than dealing with broken sinks, flat tires and cracked siding, Mr. Benson's books focus on things that are somewhat more... insane. If you've ever wanted to know how to build a landmine, shoot down military helicopters, survive an atomic holocaust or make your own anti-tank rifle, the Ragnar Benson collection is for you. Ragnar's works include: Mantrapping David's Tool Kit: A Citizen's Guide to Taking Out Big Brother's Heavy Weapons Long Term Survival in the Coming Dark Age - Preparing to Live after Society Crumbles Modern Weapons Caching: A Down-To-Earth Approach To Beating The Government Gun Grab New And Improved C-4: Better-Than-Ever Recipes For Half The Money And Double the Fun. And, for those of you who read Mantrapping and mastered its tenets, there's the ever-popular The Most Dangerous Game: Advanced Mantrapping Techniques. #2. The Mini-Gun Holy Sh!t, Really? Quite possibly the most deadly infantry weapon ever designed. The M134 General Electric Minigun is an incredibly badass-looking gun with the capacity of firing up to one-hundred-and-sixty-six times per second. In case you haven't fully realized the power of that statement, allow us to illustrate it. We have no idea what this is, but it was one of the first results when we did a Google Image search for '166.' Just imagine these things are almost two hundred bullets heading towards your face every second. #1. Thermite Holy Sh!t, Really? Thermite is a composite, aluminum and metal oxide based powder. When ignited, it can reach temperatures of up to 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. For reference, that's close to half the temperature of the chucklef***ing Sun. Thermite is most commonly used to cut through very strong metal, like the kind you find in the frame of a skyscraper or the body of a T-800. The Rest Of The Story Sections not copied: Where Can I Get Some? What Should I Do With It? Holy Balls, Why is it Legal? Extra: Here is what it's like to fire a hand held minigun.

Silver Shield | 02-03-2009 07:14 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal When are the pre cog's going to send the cops to my house to arrest me for pre crime just for reading this...

Professur | 02-03-2009 07:26 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Thermite is commonly used in welding railroad rails. The minigun is legal, if I recall, because each round is fired by an manual application of force, and not an automatic mechanism.

Twisted Avatar | 02-03-2009 07:30 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal 1 Attachment(s) I have a new shopping list

brosil | 02-03-2009 08:29 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal #4 is misrepresented. Yes, if you fill out the paperwork, you can build your own firearm but if you don't follow the rules, it's federal prison for you. #6 is being made illegal in Ohio and is probably illegal in other states. It's a looser drug anyway.

sirgonzo420 | 02-03-2009 08:37 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by brosil (Post 1546683) #4 is misrepresented. Yes, if you fill out the paperwork, you can build your own firearm but if you don't follow the rules, it's federal prison for you. #6 is being made illegal in Ohio and is probably illegal in other states. It's a looser drug anyway.
LOL How exactly did you come to that conclusion? Salvia is relatively obscure, and I doubt that anyone has robbed a gas station to be able to "get their fix".

diversified2 | 02-03-2009 08:54 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1546691) LOL How exactly did you come to that conclusion? Salvia is relatively obscure, and I doubt that anyone has robbed a gas station to be able to "get their fix".
No wonder butterflies and hummingbirds like it:111:

eat_beef | 02-03-2009 09:03 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal A minigun is legal, if you fill out the proper paperwork, but it'll cost you upwards of a quarter million bucks...

Canadian-guerilla | 02-03-2009 09:07 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Modern Weapons Caching: A Down-To-Earth Approach To Beating The Government Gun Grab http://rapidshare.com/files/58903041/WeaponsCaching.pdf

Twisted Avatar | 02-03-2009 09:30 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1546734) Modern Weapons Caching: A Down-To-Earth Approach To Beating The Government Gun Grab http://rapidshare.com/files/58903041/WeaponsCaching.pdf
No worky.....

Sapiens | 02-03-2009 09:35 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal thanks c-g.

Professur | 02-03-2009 10:07 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Worked for me.

elroy | 02-03-2009 10:32 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Homemade firearms. They are also known as garage guns, Chechnyan Firecrackers and scrap weapons. Most garage guns are made out of easily acquired pieces of trash and industrial debris. They can be as simple as a lead tube with a rubber-band-powered firing pin, or a fully automatic pistol made out of aluminum cans and assorted sprockets.
This sounds like it would be more dangerous to the shooter than the person getting shot.

TUMS | 02-03-2009 11:07 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Aren't mushrooms still legal in Oregon? I know they grow everywhere up there. I've smoked salvia a few times. It's not a recreational drug.

SLV>GLD | 02-03-2009 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TUMS (Post 1546932) Aren't mushrooms still legal in Oregon? I know they grow everywhere up there. I've smoked salvia a few times. It's not a recreational drug.
For more information please read a book entitled Sacred Mushrooms and The Law. It is short, informative and will answer that question the only way it can be answered which is in no way black and white. A short answer might be like this, "Fresh mushrooms harvested from nature with no knowledge of or intentions to experience the psychedelic properties thereof. Basically, you would be on a field trip where you picked every mushroom you saw not knowing what the "bad" ones were (legal possession) and then stupidly ate them not knowing they were "bad" (legal consumption and by all regards insanely dangerous). Read the book and know your local laws and precedents. Intentional manufacture is illega in all 50 states but even then the concept of manufacture is subject to creative interpretation.

TUMS | 02-03-2009 11:27 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1546964) For more information please read a book entitled Sacred Mushrooms and The Law. It is short, informative and will answer that question the only way it can be answered which is in no way black and white. A short answer might be like this, "Fresh mushrooms harvested from nature with no knowledge of or intentions to experience the psychedelic properties thereof. Basically, you would be on a field trip where you picked every mushroom you saw not knowing what the "bad" ones were (legal possession) and then stupidly ate them not knowing they were "bad" (legal consumption and by all regards insanely dangerous). Read the book and know your local laws and precedents. Intentional manufacture is illega in all 50 states but even then the concept of manufacture is subject to creative interpretation.
Thanks, that sounds like a good book. I will definitely read it.

Canadian-guerilla | 02-03-2009 04:21 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1546776) No worky.....
8th one down - WeaponsCaching http://thedisease.net/lickspittles/v...c.php?pid=4567

tulsamal | 02-03-2009 04:47 PM
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#4 is misrepresented. Yes, if you fill out the paperwork, you can build your own firearm but if you don't follow the rules, it's federal prison for you.
No, I can't agree with that. Let's ignore all the various state laws for this discussion. You will have to research your own state. So this is just about Federal law. This is the whole reason there are "80% blanks" out there for sale. Less than 80% of the work has been done to change a piece of metal into something like an AR-15 lower receiver. Or AK receiver. Whatever. So you buy something that isn't yet classified as a firearm. Then you do the rest of the maching yourself. It can be useful to put a serial number on it but it is at your discretion. The important thing is that you are simply making a gun for your own personal use. You aren't "manufacturing a gun for sale or profit." In that case, the only Federal laws that restrict you are the ones we all have to follow. Like a 16"+ barrel on a rifle. Or no full auto. Etc. Homemade guns can even be legally sold although this is where it gets "subject to interpretation." If you made ten of them and sold eight, it would be hard to argue you originally made them all for personal use. But if you make an AK, shoot it, enjoy it, then decide to sell it and make another, you aren't _necessarily_ breaking the law. You _planned_ to keep it. But you decided to take your gun collection in a different direction. Etc. The argument isn't really about if you do it once. The argument is if there is some magic number where you "close the line." Generally the intent of the law seems to be when you are making guns with the intention of making a profit. If you decide to sell one, you have opened yourself up to some questions. And I would want a serial number on that gun before I would try to sell it just to make everything a little less hinky looking. Just a couple of examples so you won't think I'm just blowing smoke up your axx! http://marshhawkarms.com/ http://marshhawkarms.com/page2.html http://gunsgutsandgod.com/SBS%20tutorial.htm Gregg

917601 | 02-03-2009 11:21 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal 2 Attachment(s) I have had much experience with the mini-gun-one of my last "jobs". Not many around anymore-I will not tell you where I took the pics,but this was alittle over a year ago.

917601 | 02-03-2009 11:31 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal 1 Attachment(s) Allright-I will throw up one more-a bitch to clean.

917601 | 02-03-2009 11:45 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Dillon will be manufacturing soon a titanium model, shedding alot of lbs. As for the older version, last one I saw up for sale was $169,000.00. .308 ammo (special linked and loaded by the way),will run hundreds of thousands for a decent "shoot".

Satyr | 02-03-2009 11:47 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Re: #6 (Salvia Divinorum) Not legal in Illinois as of some time in '08. Good thing I bought an ounce of leaves and a 2oz. bottle of tincture before it was outlawed. Not that I couldn't just pick some up in Indiana or something.

Igotyour6 | 02-04-2009 12:58 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Tannerite is fun...you can buy it in cases, shake them up to mix real good and shoot them with a hi power rifle and they go BOOM! don's let anyone tell you a 762 x 39 does not have the nuts to set Tannerite off, because it sure does. me and this kid I know who turned me on to Tannerite took 6 of the bottles and mixed it up in a large container, walked off what seemed to be a safe distance ( um...yea) and lashed it to an old threshing machine wheel. south of the chicken house at my place. open iron sites and about 40 yards with a Chinese SKS we put a round into the bottle and ...I wish you all were there! the concussion of the blast bloodied both of our noses! was lots of fun! google it and buy some it is a frickin blast (no pun intended...well maybe) oh the neighbors who live about a mile away came over to see if things were ok...yep just fine, come see this shit we say...

Igotyour6 | 02-04-2009 01:18 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by 917601 (Post 1548497) I will not tell you where I took the pics,but
humm...brave for doing that. digital cameras...almost glad they were not around in 1989...in one of the ..."stans" prior to what we remember happening in 90 and a lovely little place no one ever heard of before...alXKu...way..te...careful sometimes things you see and know are very good to keep close...

90%RealMoney | 02-04-2009 11:12 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Man, some of you guys here have surely "lived the life", haven't you?

90%RealMoney | 02-04-2009 11:25 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal My comment was mainly directed at the guys who have been involved in "things that never occured". Great stories for later in life, if you're still alive to tell! Most of us have to read books about stuff like that.

notamuppet | 02-04-2009 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by specsaregood (Post 1546726) It is actually really popular amongst younger folks since it is legal still in most states.
It's not popular by any means. It is getting increasingly well known but it's not really popular. I would estimate that maybe one in every 200 or 300 kids have tried it by the time they're 18.

Igotyour6 | 02-04-2009 11:31 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1549214) Man, some of you guys here have surely "lived the life", haven't you?
I have not even begun to live my life, I consider myself a very young man, and I want to grow old. I figure I will be shot dead at the ripe old age of 105 by a jelous 20 year old punk jellous @55'd mother f*ck*$ while I am crawling out of his 19 year old girl friends window, and as I lay ther on the cold damp grass breathing my last breaths, I will think to my self "damed...how could i have let him get the drop on me...

RealityCheck | 02-06-2009 01:59 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Got to add JWH-018 to that list for you potheads. :wink: I don't expect it will be on the list long though!

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1553958) Got to add JWH-018 to that list for you potheads. :wink:
That's a new on me and that is saying a lot. Too bad it produces THC metabolites thereby making you fail urine tests regardless of the substance's legality.

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RealityCheck | 02-06-2009 02:15 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal http://pr.cannazine.co.uk : With all the news coming out of Austria and Germany pointing to full-on bans for the popular herbal incense mixes (starting today - you have been warned) marketed under the brand name "Spice", it does raise the question "whats all the fuss about"? Germany is the fourth nation to ban the substance, marketed as a herbal room deodoriser, after Austria, the Netherlands and Switzerland. Lets face it, for Germany to implement some pretty quick law changes this must be a substance which is super dangerous, right? So I decided to do some checking into the background of Spice, as well as the reasons its being banned. It all kicked off around January 21st 2009, when the Associated Press announced, "Germany bans drug "Spice"". According to Germany's health minister the government has banned the production, sale or possession of a synthetic marijuana-like drug known as "Spice." At this stage, I know what you're thinking. "So why's it banned?" And why does German Health Minister Ulla Schmidt say Spice must "quickly be taken out of circulation?" Wednesday's ban takes effect Thursday (January 29th) and comes weeks after German health officials found the drug contained a synthetic ingredient which has a reaction similar to marijuana when smoked. IE. It gets you stoned. But here's the thing. Spice is often marketed as an all organic herbal mix, which is a recipe handed down through entire generations of..matabele tribesmen, or some such endangered African race. Its supposed to be entirely organic. Apparently what Ms Schmidt's problem is, is the fact that when the substance was analysed by a laboratory, it was found to contain a synthetic drug which reacts on the body in a similar way to cannabis. But where-as cannabis is a naturally occurring substance, the catchily named JWH-018, was devised in a laboratory. Its a chemical recipe. The chemical substance JWH-018 was first synthesized in 1995 in a university lab in the US for purely experimental purposes. The synthetic substance, JWH-018, is a cannabinoid receptor agonist from the aminoalkylindole family. That is, when its smoked, it binds onto the same cannabinoid receptor's as cannabis would, and therefore has a similar effect. It gets you stoned. The chemist who first synthesized JWH-018, is an organic-chemist at Clemson University in South Carolina in the US. John W Huffman (The man who quite literally put the JWH in JWH-018), told Chemistry World that his goal had been to make a simple compound to study structure-receptor relationships. The compound interacts with both cannabis receptors. The first batch was actually made by an undergraduate student working under a post-doc. 'It is really easy to make,' Huffman said. JWH-018 has not been licensed anywhere in the world for medical applications and little is known about the effect on humans, as not even pre-clinical studies have been to determine potential toxicity. Huffman says he is inclined to believe it is not toxic, and that he would be more concerned about any lingering impurities from the production process. When asked how dangerous JHW-018 is Huffman says quite candidly, 'I don't have a clue.' But noting the similar highs produced by THC and JWH-018, he says: 'You cannot overdose on THC. You can forget your name or where you are, but too much THC will not kill you.' "Hmm" thinks me. "Thats not what my government tell me". Asked whether he sees any potential medical applications for JWH-018, he said: 'No. It's like LSD, the only thing it is good for is getting you high.' Subsequent Spice search's served only to manifest an unending chain of Internet shops which were selling Spice products for a variety of prices from �16.99 right up to �26.99, for exactly the same product so if you're looking for Spice, be prepared to shop around, being mindful of which countries Spice is banned in currently. http://pr.cannazine.co.uk/2009012983...-the-dope.html

RealityCheck | 02-06-2009 02:16 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1553990) That's a new on me and that is saying a lot. Too bad it produces THC metabolites thereby making you fail urine tests regardless of the substance's legality.
Actually is doesn't, its chemically comletely unrelated, it only works on the same receptors.

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1553995) Actually is doesn't, its chemically comletely unrelated, it only works on the same receptors.
Wikipedia disagrees with you. Or maybe I am reading the page wrong.

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 02:21 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1553992) 'No. It's like LSD, the only thing it is good for is getting you high.'
That quote is rife with ignorance. How do you think LSD gained popularity?

RealityCheck | 02-06-2009 02:27 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1554005) Wikipedia disagrees with you. Or maybe I am reading the page wrong.
Wiki is wrong. The main reason it gained such popularity is because people who get drug tested can use it without worrying. No on has ever tested positive from it since it is chemically unrelated, it doesn't produce the metabolites they test for.

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 02:28 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1554022) Wiki is wrong. The main reason it gained such popularity is because people who get drug tested can use it without worrying. No on has ever tested positive from it since it is chemically unrelated, it doesn't produce the metabolites they test for.
Yeah, I was reading up on it some more and you are spot on. In fact, I think I'm just dense at understanding how the bottom end of wikipedia pages work.

RealityCheck | 02-06-2009 02:29 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal I think we should add Kratom to the list too. :565:

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 02:31 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal The list will get long if we just keep throwing legal highs at it.

RealityCheck | 02-06-2009 02:39 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1554043) The list will get long if we just keep throwing legal highs at it.
True. Thats why we should only add the best ones. :biggrin:

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 02:44 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Well, okay, 5-meo-DMT and Calea zacatechichi.

notamuppet | 02-06-2009 05:03 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1554080) Well, okay, 5-meo-DMT
that's illegal, analogue act

SLV>GLD | 02-06-2009 05:17 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal It's for sale all over the web and you don't get in trouble for buying it and the proprietors are not going down for selling it. Lots of things are nebulously, quasi-illegal under the analogue act. Really depends on how bad they want to get you when they grab you with something like that. If you can document a successful conviction for 5-meo-DMT I'll change my tune.

Buddha | 02-06-2009 06:01 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal GIM should be added to the list...

RealJack | 02-06-2009 06:51 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Yeah, GIM is a gateway drug and causes anxiety and paranoia in users. Lol.

Unclad Lad | 02-24-2009 11:59 PM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal So, why is Ragnar Benson still legal? Because he's 90% full of crap. A lot of his instructions are prefaced with "While I was a mercenary in Africa" stories where the purpose isn't to illustrate the point he's making, but to magnify the reader's awe of Ragnar Benson. It's required reading for all Chairborne Rangers.

shades2 | 02-25-2009 10:06 AM
Re: 7 items you won't believe are actually legal Quote:
Originally Posted by 917601 (Post 1548512) Dillon will be manufacturing soon a titanium model, shedding alot of lbs. As for the older version, last one I saw up for sale was $169,000.00. .308 ammo (special linked and loaded by the way),will run hundreds of thousands for a decent "shoot".
Apparently they are going to use titanium/alloys on some areas of the gun to save weight, not all.

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