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Twisted Avatar | 02-28-2009 02:58 PM
Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted The pressure is nothing short of staggering........ I recommend that all possible funds be put to the acquistion of tactical gear,ammo and preps Gold and silver should be placed on the back burner. Things are getting dangerous now. Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted JWR: I saw the article on how Cabela�s shares surged based on gun sales. Let me tell you, we are in the midst of a feeding frenzy here in Colorado. First, its not just guns, its all of the accessories as well. I had to return some items from Christmas to Sportsman�s Warehouse and found that the whole gun department was basically empty. They only had some black powder firearms and a couple of shotguns. Nothing else. I had run into this before Christmas when I bought my two oldest boys new elk rifles � and got the last .308 bolt action and the last .30-06 bolt action to be had. But I figured after Christmas things would be better. Well, they are not. So unless you shoot something odd like a .22-250 forget getting ammunition right now let alone a gun. (stay with common calibers!!!) And the cleaning kits were sold out as well. And holsters, ammo belts � you name it and if it was shooting related it was gone. Now in my wanderings in the store I also found that communications gear is also disappearing off the shelves. I had a brief conversation with the kid that was working there and it turns out that this is another trend they are seeing. Basically all of the walkie-talkie units that can take ear buds or microphones are gone. The only things left are some cheap FRS units. The same thing was at work with the flashlights � all of the better units (like the Surefire models) were gone. I begin to wonder what is at work here � am I being paranoid or is this the next run on �near tactical� equipment? Now I shoot as much as I can when I am in country so I go through a lot of reloading supplies and bulk ammunition. I have been told by some of the national dealers that I buy from (in bulk lots of 10 cases per caliber per order) that they are almost all sold out as well. One sales person related to me that they had run through over 10,000 cases of .223 that week alone and could not keep any in stock. Common calibers are gone � 9mm, .45 ACP, .38/.357, .223, .308, 7.62x39 � and less common ones such as the .40 are hard to get. So unless you happen to be shooting something that is very uncommon, keep your eyes open. I did however with a week of scrounging manage to come up with one box of 7.62 match grade ammo � the 175 grain M118 loading. Fortunately my long range precision gun likes this ammo so I bought it. This is one trend that if you were not way out in front and loading up on ammunition, guns, and accessories, you would not be able to catch up now. - Hugh D. Hi Jim, FYI, just got done shopping at Midway [for ammunition handloading components] and all of the .308 150 grain soft nosed bullets priced at $25.00/100 and under are gone. All gone! This includes all round nose and flat point for 30-30. Only some of the premium stuff is available. The next best deal is a Lapua 150 grain at $42.00/100. Guess I'll have to top off with the only decent spitzer, a 125 grain Sierra Pro-Hunter at $22/100 if I can't find 150 grainers elsewhere. I suppose these can be reliable through a[n M1] Garand and are certainly adequate for deer. I've also shopped all over for loaded 9mm Luger JHP and it's all gone as well. Yes I shoulda got the XD-.45 instead, yet common ammunition that can be shared with the rest of the family and in case the gun fails the ammo would not be wasted. I have plenty, but more would be nice. The same can be said for the cheap 7.62x39 and M2 ball (.30-06). All gone, everywhere. There does appear to be some 7.62 NATO out there. Cabela's seems to have a fair selection of all .308 spire point bullets and 9mm/.45ACP JHP, and a very limited amount (500 rounds) of the cheap 7.62x39, and limited quantities of .223 and .308. The run on ammunition continues and is amazing. A report from the latest gun show in our area described [buyers with] dollies stacked with cases that emptied the place within three hours. What is the most shocking is that reloading components are also disappearing. - E.L. Jim: News of the [U.S.]Attorney General asking for renewal of the Assault Weapons ban (on behalf of Obama) went out across the Internet last night [Wednesday, Feb. 25th.] Here was the result I saw: There was a line of about eight guys in front of my local gun shop this morning, waiting for the doors to open. This was at 9 a.m. on a Thursday morning, mind you. I was one of them. Most of the guys looked to be in their 30s and 40s--so we were taking time away from work to be there. (In my case, it was a "dental emergency". Obama has me grinding my teeth at night!) We got in the door, and I immediately saw there wasn't much left on the shelves--mostly just pump [shot]guns and bolt-action [rifle]s. There were just two centerfire semi[automatic]s in the rack: some POS no-name AK that looked like it was built from a beater parts kit, and one of those woosie S&W AR[-15] clones with no flash hider on but with the Mossy-Breakup camouflage paint job. Those both sold in the first few minutes. The owner said that he doesn't expect [to receive] any more black guns for three or four months! One thing you definitely had nailed: They did not have a single high-cap magazine left in the store, except the one that came in the mag well of the AK I mentioned. I cleaned out the last of their .45 and .308 ammo--just a few boxes. There was not a round of 9mm, .223, of 7.62 [x39mm] Russian to be found. Those was some slim pickin's! I wonder: What will they have left by Saturday night? - Ray H. in Virginia http://www.survivalblog.com/

RaccoonRiverRadical | 02-28-2009 03:01 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Cabelas online still has stock. Yesterday I ordered ammo, the only thing back ordered was .38. Then I haven't received anything yet so we shall see.

Desert Fox | 02-28-2009 03:22 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted I went around to a few stores, over the last couple of weeks. Between K-Mart, and two Wal-Marts, I ended up with three hundred rounds of .308s

meatman | 02-28-2009 03:43 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted The wife and I just came back from the indoor range/ gunshop, doing our weekly shooting people were buying but they did have plenty of stock. pallet of 7.62 and 2 pallets of .223 2 dozen AR in stock and a dozen of AK when I was waiting for a lane to open seen a couple of AR's go out the door

Dawg | 02-28-2009 03:49 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted I went to my local gun store yesterday, GAT guns in Illinois. They have crates of ammo all over the place and row upon row of Black rifles and pistols. They have tons of stuff. Seems the only places that are low are heresay reports from the field and AmmoToGo and CheaperThanDirt. I think there is a conspiracy of sorts afoot to perpetuate the increased sales and instigate a buying fervor to further increase sales fueled by peoples paranoia. The local Cabelas has tons of guns and ammo and so do the local area Walmarts. They don't sell guns any more, but plenty of ammo to be had.

EE_ | 02-28-2009 03:52 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 1599620) Cabelas online still has stock. Yesterday I ordered ammo, the only thing back ordered was .38. Then I haven't received anything yet so we shall see.
Looks like they loaded up since I last checked. That Fiocchi 7.62X39 for $11.99 looks like a fair deal. Add states "Large Quantity in Stock" Remington Golden Saber's too! (going to get charge card now) brb

igorthesmall | 02-28-2009 05:05 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted I have searched far and wide, and I can say that small rifle primers are practically impossible to find. Anyone know of a place that has any of those in stock?

S_Goldberg | 02-28-2009 05:28 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Yes there are lots of people buying, but all this crap about people buy surefire ligths, holsters, and radios is pure hear say. Provide me documentation and I will believe it. I can say that I spoke with the pimple faced highschooler working behind the desk at the store and he told me blah blah blah just as easily as this guy. People are buying holster because they are buying handguns. Nothing coordinated or important going on, just people buying guns.

Homebrewer | 02-28-2009 08:59 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Good thing I`ve been stocking up since Bush Sr was president.

Satyr | 02-28-2009 09:23 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg (Post 1599708) I went to my local gun store yesterday, GAT guns in Illinois. They have crates of ammo all over the place and row upon row of Black rifles and pistols. They have tons of stuff. Seems the only places that are low are heresay reports from the field and AmmoToGo and CheaperThanDirt. I think there is a conspiracy of sorts afoot to perpetuate the increased sales and instigate a buying fervor to further increase sales fueled by peoples paranoia. The local Cabelas has tons of guns and ammo and so do the local area Walmarts. They don't sell guns any more, but plenty of ammo to be had.
Hmmm...we must live close. I've been to GAT Guns a few times. Haven't been in a while though. I usually go to Wally World for .22 ammo. Any other stuff I tend to purchase online.

Dawg | 02-28-2009 11:19 PM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by Satyr (Post 1600199) Hmmm...we must live close. I've been to GAT Guns a few times. Haven't been in a while though. I usually go to Wally World for .22 ammo. Any other stuff I tend to purchase online.
Where do you go shooting at?

Twisted Avatar | 03-01-2009 12:32 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 1599846) Yes there are lots of people buying, but all this crap about people buy surefire ligths, holsters, and radios is pure hear say. Provide me documentation and I will believe it. I can say that I spoke with the pimple faced highschooler working behind the desk at the store and he told me blah blah blah just as easily as this guy. People are buying holster because they are buying handguns. Nothing coordinated or important going on, just people buying guns.
I was at Natchez website and they had some GREAT deals on the clearance section. I called a service rep as it would be faster than trying navigate the webpages. 300Rd 7.62x54R ..........Gone 5 mile walking talkis.......Gone Survial Radio................Gone Glock mags..................Price increase THERE IS SOMETHING VERY MUCH GOING ON AND IT IS NOT JUST AMMO AND GUNS. BELIEVE IT. T

CrufflerJJ | 03-01-2009 05:43 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1600483) THERE IS SOMETHING VERY MUCH GOING ON AND IT IS NOT JUST AMMO AND GUNS. BELIEVE IT. T
Camping Gear - everybody is stocking up on "camping gear." Yeah..that's the ticket!

Twisted Avatar | 03-01-2009 07:16 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1600689) Camping Gear - everybody is stocking up on "camping gear." Yeah..that's the ticket!
You may have to provision somebody to live in your backyard as the house will be full. Stranger things have happened. Just saying. T

gpond | 03-01-2009 09:26 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted My local Gander mountain had ammo, but no .38 at all. None. Went down the road to a local shop and the ONLY kind of .38 he had was some +P 95GR solid copper hollowpoint. I had never seen these before, solid copper = no lead. Bought a couple of boxes. Shortage of .38 in my neck of the woods is how I read it.

Satyr | 03-01-2009 09:32 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg (Post 1600384) Where do you go shooting at?
Lately I've been going to an outdoor range in Kankakee with a buddy from work. They have a trap shooting range as well as a pistol/rifle range that is maxed at 150 yards. It's a small range, but it's very laid back. It's a bit of a drive, but it's the closest range I've been able to find outdoors. I used to shoot at Bell's guns. Obviously I haven't shot there in years. That place was always shady.

Family Man | 03-01-2009 11:46 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted You are right TA, the ammo and reloading markets are under tremendous pressure. Some specific loads, are unattainable, like the Win. Supreme stuff.(Accurate ammo is most interesting to me), but at the Ventura , CA Gunshow yesterday Miwall Corp. had two 18 wheelers of ammo. It was awesome to not have to wait to get in the gates, as I had a vendor badge, for the line was 200 yds. long to get in! Miwall had all calibers, but no Match stuff. Guys were using dollys taking 5+ cases of .223, 7.62 stuff to their vehicles. If you had the dough, you can buy all you want. Fact. Every caliber. The Miwall booth was 4 deep in line. But shortages on line are rampant. The "no back order" tags are commom too on smokeless powder and ammo at Midway, etc. You guys had better get it now, because the ammo suppliers will not tool up to meet demand accoring to my LEO Rangemaster / Gun school instructor, they are concerened they will lose their investment if high taxes are levied on their product. I did notice a lot more tactical vests, web gear, lighting for sale. People should indedd have a lot of camping equipment in their garage, just because. I actually use all that stuff, going to the mountains next weekend, thank God! Don't freak out if you do not have a lot of cash for this stuff. A little is better than none, and a lot of us have had salary cuts or already are unemployed, and just need to keep milk in the fridge. It will be interesting how this all shakes out.:biggrin:

Twisted Avatar | 03-02-2009 08:42 AM
Re: Three Letters Re: The Feeding Frenzy Continues--Gun Store Shelves are Depleted Quote:
Originally Posted by Family Man (Post 1600902) You are right TA, the ammo and reloading markets are under tremendous pressure. Some specific loads, are unattainable, like the Win. Supreme stuff.(Accurate ammo is most interesting to me), but at the Ventura , CA Gunshow yesterday Miwall Corp. had two 18 wheelers of ammo. It was awesome to not have to wait to get in the gates, as I had a vendor badge, for the line was 200 yds. long to get in! Miwall had all calibers, but no Match stuff. Guys were using dollys taking 5+ cases of .223, 7.62 stuff to their vehicles. If you had the dough, you can buy all you want. Fact. Every caliber. The Miwall booth was 4 deep in line. But shortages on line are rampant. The "no back order" tags are commom too on smokeless powder and ammo at Midway, etc. You guys had better get it now, because the ammo suppliers will not tool up to meet demand because they are concerened they will lose their investment if high taxes are levied on their product.
BINGO. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING FOR A WHILE NOW BUT YOU HAVE HAVE CONFIRMED IT....... I owe you two mercuries dime if we ever meet :ok: The Suppliers are caught between "The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea" They will not commit there unprecendented recent sale recipents to more equipment until they have a better idea how this is gonna play AND IT DONT LOOK GOOD. Therefore what we have is the dreaded Postive Feedback loop: The More Money They make...... The More scared they are to produce .......which drive the pricess up further because of shortage.......which makes them even MORE scared!!! The ONLY thing we can do is buy with both hands. If you have the money to spare and you are even THINKING about it GET IT and whatever your buy dubble down on it. The second can be used for barter or charity. Do whatever it takes (even holding off on Gold and silver purchases) because this is VERY serious. The Pie for Gun, Ammo and related gear is not getting any bigger. Get your "slice" of it now. T

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