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Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 05:17 PM
UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! So here I sit mushing around about getting another Sagia 7.62 so I called the place where I picked my first one just out of curisosity. I ask the dealer how much guy barks out 550!!! I SAID WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ........... I JUST PICKED UP ONE FROM YOU NO LESS THAN 2 MONTHS AGO FOR 330!! Buddy,its 550 take it or leave it . I hung up in total digust...... I called around to two other places ...... one wont pickup cause the phone is ringing off the hook and the mailbox cant hold any more messages. (midatlantic) I called another place on the 7.62 and the guy litterally laughed at me. He said he hasnt had a been able to get his handS on one for over six months. Part of the reason he said was that .Blackwater has been buying everything that has been coming out the gun makers and Sagia in particular(he cites the sturdy frame and the punishment capabilty). I did locate one in Pa for 330 but after shipping and FFL fees I may have saved myself 50-80 bucks total. I think I may just bite the bullet and pay what the dealer is saying and get my rifel the same day.Shyt is flying off the shelves and dealers are capitalizing. Word to the wise: Dont wait whatever you plan to purchase get your @$$ off the fence and do it now because it dam sure aint gonna be cheaper tommarow. The winds have shifted in this country .........God help us all. T

WeedMonger | 11-05-2008 05:19 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Just remember one thing, you can only shoot one gun at a time -2 if your real good:)

The Argent Dragon | 11-05-2008 05:24 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 2 Months ago I could have bought RPK rifles for $375 each. Today they're running $499+ if you can locate one. Centerfire Systems is nearly out of all its AK's with a few available on backorder.........still, GUNS is MONEY !!!! (doin' better than GOLD right now) :wink:

sirgonzo420 | 11-05-2008 05:26 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by WeedMonger (Post 1399837) Just remember one thing, you can only shoot one gun at a time -2 if your real good:)
So buy as much ammo (and mags) as your floor can reasonably hold without caving in.

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 05:27 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Honestly speaked AD it is REALLY starting to trouble me. Deep down. It is just confirming that shyt is gonna get REAL BAD in the not too distant future. You better load up .......... CAUSE BLACKWATER SURE IS. T

hystckndle | 11-05-2008 05:31 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Hey TA, Have you listened to that Ron Paul audio link on that other thread by "Stacks" ? Just askin' ; goes along with your comments generally. Regards, Haystackneedle

Lars Ragnarsson | 11-05-2008 05:54 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Yep, a lady I work with saw an M-4 with an EoTech sight on it during a tour of a local air base last year. She couldn't believe it when I told her civilians could buy this stuff - the only difference is it's not full auto. She's been waffling about what to get since then, and I told her last week that if she wants an AR or AK, she better get one NOW - and if she wasn't sure about what she wanted, to get one of each. If she didn't like one, she could likely sell it for a handsome profit. Did she? Nope. You can lead a horse to water....

Elvis | 11-05-2008 06:19 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Sounds like someone put SAEs in them.

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 06:23 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Well the way how prices are vaulting I expect the 7.62 to be around 750 before the year is over and at the first hint a AWB part 2 they will fecth over a thousand easy. Get em .......if you can.

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 06:25 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! What type of of AR Mags should I stock up on? That are guarnteed to be money makers latter on. Any suggestions??? T

Dutch Dog | 11-05-2008 06:28 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! TA, I have bought a ton of these for stockpiling purposes (you can never have too many!) http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DH30D For shooting, I use the pmags. I find the USGI ones cut of my fingers when I load them. http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MAG211 Now I need to find a decent AK to add to my collection. Just picked up a russian sks with gold bayonet. Big pimpin!

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 06:32 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Both are out of stock DD. The smart ones among us smell the death of the old ways in the air. T

Dutch Dog | 11-05-2008 06:37 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Try this site: http://palmettostatearmory.com/magpul-30-window.php

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 06:44 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Dog (Post 1399979) Try this site: http://palmettostatearmory.com/magpul-30-window.php
Thanks I will do some research on them tommarow.

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 06:47 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by J in AZ (Post 1399984) J & G Sales have raised their AK magazines $5.00 each since yesterday.
Cheaper than dirt had a SWEET DEAL on 50 round boxes of +p+ 9MM hollowpoint Federal ammo for 15.59........ that same box is 20.20 and climbing. I feel your pain. Quick question what are "stripper clips" used for?? T

<SLV> | 11-05-2008 07:00 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I have a feeling gun/ammo prices will ebb in about 6 months when the buyers are done paying high premiums and the dealers have to draw back buyers to the table. I don't seen any firearm legislation in the first part of 2009 or perhaps not even until 2010. They have way to many other things they want to get done. I say if you can't find it locally at a reasonable price, then just sit on the dry powder for 6 months.

GardensGold&Guns | 11-05-2008 07:04 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! SAIGA :ok:

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 07:09 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1400019) I have a feeling gun/ammo prices will ebb in about 6 months when the buyers are done paying high premiums and the dealers have to draw back buyers to the table. I don't seen any firearm legislation in the first part of 2009 or perhaps not even until 2010. They have way to many other things they want to get done. I say if you can't find it locally at a reasonable price, then just sit on the dry powder for 6 months.
Thats a very plausible theroy SLV. I hope your right. T

Darkside | 11-05-2008 07:25 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! TA, living in NY gives you the privilege of not being allowed to own 30-rd magazines unless they are pre-ban. I highly advise not purchasing any mags over 10 round capacity unless they are data stamped prior to Sept 1994. I found a bunch for sale at good prices over on the AR15.com web site. And as for the Saiga- try other places, maybe this one: http://www.armsofamerica.com/firearms/saigarifles.html And have them ship to a local FFL. I bought my Saiga from Atlantic Firearms a few years ago but now they expensive there

hypervel | 11-05-2008 07:27 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1399998) Cheaper than dirt had a SWEET DEAL on 50 round boxes of +p+ 9MM hollowpoint Federal ammo for 15.59........ that same box is 20.20 and climbing. I feel your pain. Quick question what are "stripper clips" used for?? T
Oh, damn, here we go again. I sed SDFU about the 9BPLE-arrite? Dese peeple can git der own stuff. Don' put out MY sooper secret info! 9mm sux!!! u don' wan' it!!! SUX!!!! 9mm! SUX-'specially the new lower priced 9BPLE Federal white box stuff at a new lower price that I just 2 days ago enjoyed the receipt thereof. SUX!!!!!

Twisted Avatar | 11-05-2008 07:35 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 1400063) TA, living in NY gives you the privilege of not being allowed to own 30-rd magazines unless they are pre-ban. I highly advise not purchasing any mags over 10 round capacity unless they are data stamped prior to Sept 1994. I found a bunch for sale at good prices over on the AR15.com web site.
Oh yeah you dont have to worry about me. I Got all stuff in properly situated so I dont run afoul of anybody( that is the last thing I need in my life) Thanks for the link on the preban stuff. That also look like a awesome site for sagias I will be giving them a call tommarow. T

BellevueBully | 11-05-2008 07:49 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by WeedMonger (Post 1399837) Just remember one thing, you can only shoot one gun at a time -2 if your real good:)
The way things are headed, a few extra won't hurt. Like they say, diversify.

SilverCity | 11-05-2008 08:30 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 1400063) http://www.armsofamerica.com/firearms/saigarifles.html
Another Saiga source: https://www.gilbertsguns.com/store/p...141/index.html

simpleworld | 11-05-2008 11:14 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! If you are is SoCal, check these guys out: http://www.coldwarshooters.net/ They got 7.62 Saigas for $399. I know, I was at the shop on Monday the 3rd. They'll ship to your FFL if you can't make it to their shop. If you live in SoCal, this is the best place to get black rifles. I just picked up a Elk River AK and might go back for a Dragunov if possible.....

luft97 | 11-06-2008 01:39 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1399950) What type of of AR Mags should I stock up on? That are guarnteed to be money makers latter on. Any suggestions??? T
I like these HK 30 round steel magazines with "Maritime" coating if you can find them: http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/11...x470733781.jpg http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/11...x470733734.jpg Are they expensive? Yes, they are. They are hands down the best magazine on the market. Sure you can buy a few cheap ones for the price you pay for one of these.. But I am more interested in purchasing something that will last a lifetime and I will keep and use no matter what AR / M-4 / M-16 platform I happen to own at the time. They also look the best on your rifle. :biggrin:

mkinla | 11-06-2008 02:30 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! TA you wanna know what REALLY pisses me off about local gun stores. You try to support them, versus going on line, and they treat you like you should be thankful for their existence.... I still can't figure that crap out....:confused_m:

buff01 | 11-06-2008 03:28 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by simpleworld (Post 1400543) If you are is SoCal, check these guys out: http://www.coldwarshooters.net/ They got 7.62 Saigas for $399. I know, I was at the shop on Monday the 3rd. They'll ship to your FFL if you can't make it to their shop. If you live in SoCal, this is the best place to get black rifles. I just picked up a Elk River AK and might go back for a Dragunov if possible.....
ColdWarShooters had a bunch of Saigas, M4gerys, AKs, and other nice guns at the gunshow in Del Mar the last time I was there.

seektruth | 11-06-2008 06:37 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1400019) I have a feeling gun/ammo prices will ebb in about 6 months when the buyers are done paying high premiums and the dealers have to draw back buyers to the table. I don't seen any firearm legislation in the first part of 2009 or perhaps not even until 2010. They have way to many other things they want to get done. I say if you can't find it locally at a reasonable price, then just sit on the dry powder for 6 months.
Agree with this, but who knows what will happen...we shall see. I'm sitting on my dry powder for now.

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 06:44 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 1400769) TA you wanna know what REALLY pisses me off about local gun stores. You try to support them, versus going on line, and they treat you like you should be thankful for their existence.... I still can't figure that crap out....:confused_m:
Yeah that is what got me the most........... he sounded so dam smug about it .Like I was almost stupid for asking. I relaize this is business BUT DAM he could have quantified his asking price so I am Not sure if his distributer went up or he is just goughing. He may be goughing because everybody else there price was the same. I Only get what I need from him (range is there) But I wont buy anything else his bullets are over priced. T

igorthesmall | 11-06-2008 07:59 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Just bought a stripped lower receiver from Budsgunshop for $125 shipped, plus $20 to my FFL, so $145 total price. 3 days ago they were selling them for $100 shipped. Thought about buying a few extra, but didnt. I will probably be kicking myself over that decision in a year or so.

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Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 08:06 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1400972) Just bought a stripped lower receiver from Budsgunshop for $125 shipped, plus $20 to my FFL, so $145 total price. 3 days ago they were selling them for $100 shipped. Thought about buying a few extra, but didnt. I will probably be kicking myself over that decision in a year or so.
I read some where maybe .........survial blog.......... LR's are going to fectching a sweet preimum if they reinstitute a AWB part 2 Do they have serial number on them??? where do you buy Upper reciever from?? T

Eroberer | 11-06-2008 08:26 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! This is why I bought my Saiga on the morning of the election. I knew they would increase the prices. Maybe I should stop by and see if I can still get a 20" barrel 7.62x39 for $309 + tax.

Silver Wolf | 11-06-2008 08:49 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I really do think that anti gun legislation in near the top of their list. I'm not putting anything past those people.

igorthesmall | 11-06-2008 09:21 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1400986) I read some where maybe .........survial blog.......... LR's are going to fectching a sweet preimum if they reinstitute a AWB part 2 Do they have serial number on them??? where do you buy Upper reciever from?? T
Lower receivers are considered the firearm. They are the only part of the ar-15 that is registered. They do have a serial number. Once you have a stripped lower (which is just a small square box of metal, basically), you can order all the parts you need to complete your AR-15 through the mail. Here is a good site that sells all the other parts needed http://www.m-aparts.com/ I am sure there are many more, but thats just one off the top of my head. You can look online at ar15.com/forums and get more info, but the site is infested with neocon bootlickers. Another thing, you can legally buy an 80% complete stripped lower and complete it yourself, and there is no requirement to register it. You cannot sell it, however. Here is a post on ar15.com about that http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=210572

igorthesmall | 11-06-2008 09:26 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I found some more info. Apparently there is a site that sells frames for 1911's that you can finish yourself as well. Pretty cool. Unfortunately I dont have the skills or the tools to do it myself. http://www.ktordnance.com/kto/products.php An even cooler thing about that site, they prefer to be paid in silver or gold!!!

The Argent Dragon | 11-06-2008 09:36 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! AIM SURPLUS seems to still have AMD-65's (AK variant) for $439 http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/H...ood_stock.html Sounds cheap since most AK's are rocketing to $500 and $600 each now.

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 09:39 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1401122) Lower receivers are considered the firearm. They are the only part of the ar-15 that is registered. They do have a serial number. Once you have a stripped lower (which is just a small square box of metal, basically), you can order all the parts you need to complete your AR-15 through the mail. Here is a good site that sells all the other parts needed http://www.m-aparts.com/ I am sure there are many more, but thats just one off the top of my head. You can look online at ar15.com/forums and get more info, but the site is infested with neocon bootlickers. Another thing, you can legally buy an 80% complete stripped lower and complete it yourself, and there is no requirement to register it. You cannot sell it, however. Here is a post on ar15.com about that http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=210572
Wow.......... Good stuff. T

igorthesmall | 11-06-2008 10:26 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1401155) AIM SURPLUS seems to still have AMD-65's (AK variant) for $439 http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/H...ood_stock.html Sounds cheap since most AK's are rocketing to $500 and $600 each now.
they are out of stock.

The Argent Dragon | 11-06-2008 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1401277) they are out of stock.
dammit ! :banghead: :rant: :banghead: :banghead: :bear_cry:

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 10:46 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1401277) they are out of stock.
Now why dosent that surprise me the least bit??? T

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 10:59 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 1400063) . And as for the Saiga- try other places, maybe this one: http://www.armsofamerica.com/firearms/saigarifles.html
out of stock on the 12 and 7.62 And the 308's are moving fast. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 11:18 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by hypervel (Post 1400069) Oh, damn, here we go again. I sed SDFU about the 9BPLE-arrite? Dese peeple can git der own stuff. Don' put out MY sooper secret info! 9mm sux!!! u don' wan' it!!! SUX!!!! 9mm! SUX-'specially the new lower priced 9BPLE Federal white box stuff at a new lower price that I just 2 days ago enjoyed the receipt thereof. SUX!!!!!
I was looking around Ammo to go has the same overstock.........and the price is still 15 bucks!!! http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...t-ammo/sort/2a You can pick it up in blocks of a thousand if you want. I just saved you 5 bucks now THERE:tongue_ma: T

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 11:29 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1400211) Another Saiga source: https://www.gilbertsguns.com/store/p...141/index.html
I just called them too....... the last 7.62 just got sold not even 30 minutes before I called:banghead: But they have the 12 G shot gun so I think I am going to move on that right now. Nice people. T

meatman | 11-06-2008 01:00 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! for me its come down to surfing all the gun forums and looking for whoever is close by that needs cash. monday seen someone 40 miles from me wanted to sell a 3 screw ruger blackhawk 357 ASAP asking $450 emailed him said $300 cash now-got a email back from him in 2 seconds if I want it meet him on a dirt road about 20 miles north grab the cash and out the door. Sat on dirt road for about 5 min. and he pulls up hands me the gun hand him the cash. both leave 3 seconds later. later I find out that it has not been converted ( if not converted you must keep the hammer on a empty chamber) its even worth more money not being converted. plus Wednesday I shot a hog with it. got to love those florida hogs open all year and no license required and no limit. anyways the point of this post I will do anything to get a deal on a gun they are only going to be going up.

<SLV> | 11-06-2008 05:41 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I can't believe all of the people in this thread that would waste good money on a piece of junk AK. They make them so loose you have to be within 25 yards to hit a car-sized target. Get yourself a real rifle like the ones used by our armed forces. Do you really think a bunch of Ruskies and rag-heads can build a better rifle than we can?

The Argent Dragon | 11-06-2008 05:44 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1402115) ....Get yourself a real rifle like the ones used by our armed forces. Do you really think a bunch of Ruskies and rag-heads can build a better rifle than we can?
Uh......yes......and it won't JAMB ! :tongue_ma: FWIW - my AK at 25 yards places groups the size of a quarter which is much smaller than a car.

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 06:52 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Saiga is built on the frame of the kalishnikoff rifle..... That same rifle the VC in nam used to jump out of rice patties with and sent us packing. I think I herd some crazy figure that almost 1 billion of them have been made. Either way these puppies have been proven on the field of battel and the fact the market is bone dry speaks to the testament of it. One more thing....... BLACKWATER IS BUYING EVERYONE THEY CAN GET THEY HANDS ON. Think they know something we dont?? T

AlterEgo | 11-06-2008 07:12 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1402124) Uh......yes......and it won't JAMB ! :tongue_ma: FWIW - my AK at 25 yards places groups the size of a quarter which is much smaller than a car.
My Yugo's will shoot 5 inches groups at 100 yards. So unless I'm facing midgets I'm good.

FreeMyLand | 11-06-2008 07:34 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1399950) What type of of AR Mags should I stock up on? That are guarnteed to be money makers latter on. Any suggestions??? T
I really like the Magpul Polymer magazines. They seem to be nearly indestructible, and are not that much more than regular mags. A lot of guys on different forums have put them through torture tests (even shooting holes in the mags) and they performed excellent. Watch this test of a truck running over different mags and the Magpul to get the idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFXcOOb4jc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFXcOOb4jc

FreeMyLand | 11-06-2008 07:55 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1402115) I can't believe all of the people in this thread that would waste good money on a piece of junk AK. They make them so loose you have to be within 25 yards to hit a car-sized target. Get yourself a real rifle like the ones used by our armed forces. Do you really think a bunch of Ruskies and rag-heads can build a better rifle than we can?
I think you would be fine with either. They both have their pros and cons. I have shot thousands of rounds through my AR and personally don't have jamming problems. I was seriously considering both, but went with the AR because once the AKs are no longer available, I think replacement parts may become hard to find. Not to mention, it will be the caliber most likely used by opposing forces so availability should not be an issue. I also like the modularity of the AR. Lowers and Uppers can be swapped out, making it real easy to get a rifle back in action. That is the reason I also like .45 pistols, regardless of what happens, I think you will always be able to get parts and keep them going.

CrufflerJJ | 11-06-2008 09:54 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1402115) I can't believe all of the people in this thread that would waste good money on a piece of junk AK. They make them so loose you have to be within 25 yards to hit a car-sized target. Get yourself a real rifle like the ones used by our armed forces. Do you really think a bunch of Ruskies and rag-heads can build a better rifle than we can?
Not so much "loose" as "RELIABLE." No worry about what super-lube you use or whether you're using lacquer coated steel ammo or match grade brass cartridges. No worry about whether the weapon is nice & squeaky clean, or just picked up from a mud puddle. Point & click. The AK series of weapons just plain WORKS. I'm not sure what you're talking about re: 25 yard "car-sized target". You've apparently never fired an AK. If you forget the Ameri-centric viewpoint, you may see that the AK series of weapons is a solid, reliable tool. No, it's not a Perry match rifle, but it WORKS.

flying | 11-06-2008 10:01 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Sorry I have not read the whole thread but after the 1st post thought I would look. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=115420194 I dont know the seller but thought it was a good deal. On this price gouging I hate it when that happens ;) You know it is the after election rush it will calm down IMHO I think we should remember the gougers & dont feed them in the future. They are no friends of ours & just taking advantage of the market. Good Luck

AKBill | 11-06-2008 10:08 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Ok on this goughing stuff as most of you guys know I own a surplus and survival store and today we raised the price on our AR Mags we did have a few customers complain but this is what must be understood we cant find them in stock anywhere for a decent price If I have to pay twice as much when I reorder than I have to charge twice as much now also If I up the price a little bit I wont sell out as quick and still have a few on the shelf for my customers yeh there going to pay a little more but it's there Not to say that ripping people off is ok but if we cant restock an item then it doesnt matter what we paid for it the price is going to sky rocket

WAoG | 11-06-2008 10:30 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBill (Post 1402591) Ok on this goughing stuff as most of you guys know I own a surplus and survival store and today we raised the price on our AR Mags we did have a few customers complain but this is what must be understood we cant find them in stock anywhere for a decent price If I have to pay twice as much when I reorder than I have to charge twice as much now also If I up the price a little bit I wont sell out as quick and still have a few on the shelf for my customers yeh there going to pay a little more but it's there Not to say that ripping people off is ok but if we cant restock an item then it doesnt matter what we paid for it the price is going to sky rocket
This is a bull$hit post. You paid a fair price for these mags and you were charging a fair price. You get scared. So now you screw your fellow man and charge an unfair price.

Twisted Avatar | 11-06-2008 10:32 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Thanx for the Gun broker find. Only thing is they want so much dam personal information just to ask a fricken question (CC#,Ph # etc.) I am leary about handing out that info just to ask something: How long you had it?? How many rounds fired?? what type of ammo used?? Much appreciated none the less. T

SilverCity | 11-06-2008 10:46 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Decent buy on Govt. contract AR-15 mags...quantity discounts...6 mags for $86.70...EDIT: Thanks Wildcard ($14.45 each) http://www.pkfirearms.com/store/get_...action=display

Lars Ragnarsson | 11-07-2008 12:22 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1400019) I have a feeling gun/ammo prices will ebb in about 6 months when the buyers are done paying high premiums and the dealers have to draw back buyers to the table. I don't seen any firearm legislation in the first part of 2009 or perhaps not even until 2010. They have way to many other things they want to get done. I say if you can't find it locally at a reasonable price, then just sit on the dry powder for 6 months.
Tough to say. My wife works at the airbase near here, with a bunch of active-duty and retired military folks, mostly officers. She came home with a bunch of questions from these guys about buying guns, since she's told them I have one or two laying around. These guys may have a revolver or a hunting rifle or shotgun at home, but now they want to know about getting some serious firepower and have no clue as to how what to get or how to get it. But they want it. It's not just hunters, shooters and collectors worried this time - now it's J6P, too.

flying | 11-07-2008 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1402623) Thanx for the Gun broker find. Only thing is they want so much dam personal information just to ask a fricken question (CC#,Ph # etc.) I am leary about handing out that info just to ask something: How long you had it?? How many rounds fired?? what type of ammo used?? Much appreciated none the less. T
No problem buddy. I know what you mean. They do ask a lot of Q's I usually browse & also I have some pals who sell quite a bit there. ( not that gun tho I do not know that seller ) I will say though that you can tell a lot of the sellers are dealers & sometimes they have enough info in the ad to contact them without using the site. So in the future maybe that will help. Good Luck!

Twisted Avatar | 11-07-2008 07:21 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1402761) Tough to say. My wife works at the airbase near here, with a bunch of active-duty and retired military folks, mostly officers. She came home with a bunch of questions from these guys about buying guns, since she's told them I have one or two laying around. These guys may have a revolver or a hunting rifle or shotgun at home, but now they want to know about getting some serious firepower and have no clue as to how what to get or how to get it. But they want it. It's not just hunters, shooters and collectors worried this time - now it's J6P, too.
If it is one thing this drought has taught me is that........ There are a good many Americans who GET IT. And have made up there mind that should Amercia go in to a "Long Goodnight" it will be filled with a "thousand point of light" (buck, buck. double tap, buck, buck) T

Twisted Avatar | 11-07-2008 10:03 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I just made a purchase through Gilbert guns for the 12 G Sagia. I will keep everyone posted. Still in the hunt for the 7.62. Thanks to everybody who put up a link. T

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AKBill | 11-07-2008 02:47 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Wait a minute I'm not screwing anybody we charged 10 bucks a mag last week I had 600 mags in stock (30rd AR used and new) by yesturday I had 30 mags left I called Centry and a couple other places and they said the only ones they had left were 7.00 bucks for the cheepest and 34 for the most expensive thats there wholesale price Now if I ship them up here there going to cost me another 1.00 buck a mag to Alaska. So we upped the price to 15.00 I still have to pay rent and my employe's. Even at 15.00 I will make almost no profit What a lot of people dont understand is for every item we sell we have to replace it with something else if we didnt we wouldnt be able to stay open what I buy something for has no bearing on what its worth what an item is worth is its replacement cost. I give my customers the best deals in town and always have were still below evrybody else to the detriment of my pocket book. I just thought you guys mite want to look at it from an owners perspective. I do not agree with raising the price just to screw somebody on the other hand I agree with raising prices to maintain inventory stock stability and lets not forget most gun shops / surplus stores are owned by regular folks not a huge company we still have to pay our mortgages and shop rent Last if you dont like the price's open your own gd store pay the rent the lights the shipping the inventory tax the employee taxes heat, fuel, vehicle fees, credit lines, fire department inspection fees, accountant, payroll processing, insurance, maintanance, phones, and the other 8 million things that take every cent you make add to that a shortage and price increase on some of your best selling items and show me where you dont have to raise prices

Twisted Avatar | 11-07-2008 04:54 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBill (Post 1403640) Wait a minute I'm not screwing anybody we charged 10 bucks a mag last week I had 600 mags in stock (30rd AR used and new) by yesturday I had 30 mags left I called Centry and a couple other places and they said the only ones they had left were 7.00 bucks for the cheepest and 34 for the most expensive thats there wholesale price
Dam........ they are flying off your shelves too?? Wow. The rush for guns is in all fifty states..... Nobody is taking chances on this one. I feel you on the overhead costs....... I dont think they are bad people but it dam near took my breath away when they told me the price of a gun almost doubbled in less than 60 days. I am not entiled but a bit of explanation would have went a long way there but when the smoke clears they got what I want so I will deal with them. I am quite sure you run a dam fine store and I hope the customers and staff appreciate it.:ok: T

Twisted Avatar | 11-10-2008 11:10 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Just a update . Gilberts is getting SLAMMED and is 4-6 days behind on processing. Anybody looking to move on S 12G may only have Hours. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-10-2008 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1408338) TA I have my Saiga 12 that I waited a few months on backorder from Centerfire Systems coming hopefully Friday. $547.49 shipped, I love it. Now who has mags for these in stock? I will check out Gilberts, hopefully they do.
Hold on mississippi firearms has a 12 round mag that is coming out next month. There will be not a shotgun on the market that will top that. http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/i...roducts_id=369

Twisted Avatar | 11-11-2008 05:49 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 1 Attachment(s) After 20+ shops I FINALLY hit paydirt!!! And it looks absolute bad@$$ Bagged it for 399!!! They still have a few around for those intrested........ This one has a longer barrel( accuracy increases) but still fires the same round. http://www.classicarms.us/

luft97 | 11-11-2008 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1410884) After 20+ shops I FINALLY hit paydirt!!! And it looks absolute bad@$$ Bagged it for 399!!! They still have a few around for those intrested........ This one has a longer barrel( accuracy increases) but still fires the same round. http://www.classicarms.us/
Nice looking rifle TA.

Twisted Avatar | 11-11-2008 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by luft97 (Post 1411050) Nice looking rifle TA.
Yeah man this one has a super sleek look about it. I almost passed out when they said they had a few in store. That is the Sweetest stock I have every seen ............ even better then the skeleton stock IMO. It was really getting bad I was about 24 hours away from bitting the bullet and paying 550 for a regular one.... Soon as that baby touches down I plan to go over there and Gawk at them for trying to shaft everyday customers and if anybody is looking for one (highly likely) I plan to pass that website along. Perserverence pays........ I thank everybody for there help.

<SLV> | 11-12-2008 11:50 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1410884) After 20+ shops I FINALLY hit paydirt!!! And it looks absolute bad@$$ Bagged it for 399!!! They still have a few around for those intrested........ This one has a longer barrel( accuracy increases) but still fires the same round. http://www.classicarms.us/
Nice. FWIW... I read a gun blog a while back where they did testing on accuracy between the 16" and 20" Saigas and found that the 16" was more accurate. It has to do with the fact that the shorter barrel is thicker on average and less prone to vibration.

Twisted Avatar | 11-12-2008 12:39 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Wow......... You would expect the exact opposite to be true...... Well I have both now so I will be able to see the difference personally.

Fatboy | 11-12-2008 12:44 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Most likely, off hand, they both will shoot better than you or I will!

<SLV> | 11-12-2008 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1412105) Wow......... You would expect the exact opposite to be true...... Well I have both now so I will be able to see the difference personally.
Great! You'll have to give us a range report.

Twisted Avatar | 11-12-2008 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1412139) Great! You'll have to give us a range report.
Will do SLV. And in other news.......... I got the tracking Number on Sagia12 :biggrin: I was able to make small talk with the lady (Ms. Nita) They have about 20-25 in stock so if anybody needs Gilberts seem to be the only place that has any inventory. https://www.gilbertsguns.com/Shotgun...+Barrel+IZ-109 T

<SLV> | 11-12-2008 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1412394) Will do SLV. And in other news.......... I got the tracking Number on Sagia12 :biggrin: I was able to make small talk with the lady (Ms. Nita) They have about 20-25 in stock so if anybody needs Gilberts seem to be the only place that has any inventory. https://www.gilbertsguns.com/Shotgun...+Barrel+IZ-109 T
Four of them available here for $557.16 each: http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=GIZ107. These are the 24" model. RR Arms is a great company. They combine shipping if you order a handful.

Abouthadit | 11-12-2008 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1410884) After 20+ shops I FINALLY hit paydirt!!! And it looks absolute bad@$$ Bagged it for 399!!! They still have a few around for those intrested........ This one has a longer barrel( accuracy increases) but still fires the same round. http://www.classicarms.us/
you da man TA. I am about to spring for one in 308 ifn I can find it.

<SLV> | 11-12-2008 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1412573) you da man TA. I am about to spring for one in 308 ifn I can find it.
$548.28 - 6 available: http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=GIZ138

Twisted Avatar | 11-12-2008 05:07 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Where the hell where you at when the this thread originally started SLV?? you were watching from the sidelines while I was sweating bullets??? Shame on you!!! T

<SLV> | 11-12-2008 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1412596) Where the hell where you at when the this thread originally started SLV?? you were watching from the sidelines while I was sweating bullets??? Shame on you!!! T
Sorry! I just thought about RRA today... I bought a bouquet of 7.62x39 Saigas from them for $275 each shipped back about a year ago. Unfortunately I didn't really like them as much as I'd hoped, and I sold them. It sholders awkwardly because of the Monte Carlo stock and rearward moved trigger.

Twisted Avatar | 11-13-2008 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1412612) Sorry! I just thought about RRA today... I bought a bouquet of 7.62x39 Saigas from them for $275 each shipped back about a year ago. Unfortunately I didn't really like them as much as I'd hoped, and I sold them. It sholders awkwardly because of the Monte Carlo stock and rearward moved trigger.
275???? What I wouldnt give to see thoses prices and availablity again. Excuse me while I throw up.

Twisted Avatar | 11-13-2008 11:40 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! S -Golberg pointed out 1260 rounds of brass cased 7.62 for 263 bucks......... that is almost unheard of Jump on it !!! http://www.samcoglobal.com/index.htm

<SLV> | 11-13-2008 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1413515) 275???? What I wouldnt give to see thoses prices and availablity again. Excuse me while I throw up.
The price was actualy $247.25... $275 each was my total cost with shipping/FFL. How could you forget so soon? You quoted me in this post dated 7/3/08: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showp...87&postcount=5 Quote:
3. Rifle - Saiga AK in 7.62x39 w/16" barrel. Buy it through www.rrarms.com. Great service and best price at $247.25. I find that shipping on guns is cheaper than buying in state and paying taxes. Also get some 30-rd. Saiga mags.

<SLV> | 11-13-2008 11:47 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1413867) S -Golberg pointed out 1260 rounds of brass cased 7.62 for 263 bucks......... that is almost unheard of Jump on it !!! http://www.samcoglobal.com/index.htm
CAUTION... it is berdan primed -- not reloadable.

The Argent Dragon | 11-13-2008 03:00 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1412612) I bought a bouquet of 7.62x39 Saigas from them for $275 each shipped back about a year ago.
Here's my RPK that I bought from a local gun show about a year ago. $756 out the door ! http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/PICT1038.jpg

Twisted Avatar | 11-13-2008 05:36 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Wlicard just found the same deal on ATG for the 1260 rounds. Much easier to deal with and no dam headaches like mailing off personal information and signing disclamers. Hat tip to WC!!!:ok: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...mmo-click-here

SilverCity | 11-13-2008 08:01 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1412612) Sorry! I just thought about RRA today... I bought a bouquet of 7.62x39 Saigas from them for $275 each shipped back about a year ago. Unfortunately I didn't really like them as much as I'd hoped, and I sold them. It sholders awkwardly because of the Monte Carlo stock and rearward moved trigger.
Saigas have a CAST-OFF buttstock for right handed shooters. They would be a bit awkward for lefties to shoot without installing a custom cast-on stock or at least an aftermarket straight one..

Twisted Avatar | 11-14-2008 10:32 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Update.......... I left a post about Gilberts have about 20 sagia 12G's left?? WELL THEY ARE OUT OF STOCK AND NO GUARNTEE ON BACK ORDERS I Just purchased that last one they had :ok: T

Twisted Avatar | 11-14-2008 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1412579) $548.28 - 6 available: http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=GIZ138
They are gone as well. T

The Argent Dragon | 11-14-2008 02:07 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! UNFREAKIN-BELIEVABLE ! This is right off the Homepage of Classic Arms : TODAY IS FRIDAY 11/14/2008 DEAR FRIENDS- WE HAVE SO MANY PENDING ORDERS ON THE FLOOR THAT WE ARE IN DANGER OF OVERSELLING ON VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. AS SUCH WILL DISCONTINUE ANSWERING THE PHONES OR TAKING ORDERS UNTIL WE CAN GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT WE STILL ACTUALLY HAVE IN STOCK. OUR PLAN IS TO WORK ALL WEEKEND TO GET CAUGHT UP AND THEN HOPEFULLY POST BACK UP THE ITEMS WE HAVE LEFT IN STOCK AND BEGIN TAKING ORDERS AGAIN ON MONDAY. WE WILL HAVE 7.62X39 AMMO AND .223 AMMO AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK AS WELL AS SOME FIREARMS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN LIMBO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. http://classicarms.us/ :confused_ma:

Silver Wolf | 11-14-2008 02:21 PM
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AS SUCH WILL DISCONTINUE ANSWERING THE PHONES OR TAKING ORDERS UNTIL WE CAN GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT WE STILL ACTUALLY HAVE IN STOCK.
lol That's insane. The gun control fanatics have actually helped get more guns in the hands of the public. The irony....

Twisted Avatar | 11-14-2008 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1416121) UNFREAKIN-BELIEVABLE ! This is right off the Homepage of Classic Arms : TODAY IS FRIDAY 11/14/2008 DEAR FRIENDS- WE HAVE SO MANY PENDING ORDERS ON THE FLOOR THAT WE ARE IN DANGER OF OVERSELLING ON VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. AS SUCH WILL DISCONTINUE ANSWERING THE PHONES OR TAKING ORDERS UNTIL WE CAN GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT WE STILL ACTUALLY HAVE IN STOCK. OUR PLAN IS TO WORK ALL WEEKEND TO GET CAUGHT UP AND THEN HOPEFULLY POST BACK UP THE ITEMS WE HAVE LEFT IN STOCK AND BEGIN TAKING ORDERS AGAIN ON MONDAY. WE WILL HAVE 7.62X39 AMMO AND .223 AMMO AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK AS WELL AS SOME FIREARMS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN LIMBO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. http://classicarms.us/ :confused_ma:
It seems like me you AD picked up the last Black rifels they could rememeber Having in stock.It feels good to beat the rush. Guess there is a God after all. :ok: T

The Argent Dragon | 11-14-2008 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1416192) It seems like me you AD picked up the last Black rifels they could rememeber Having in stock.It feels good to beat the rush.
Yeppers, we just made it ~ barely ~ HALLELUJAH !!! http://jeffgoins.myadventures.org/bl...fe_on_edge.jpg Thank you Lord, pass the Ammunition. :coolbeer: :ok:

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Twisted Avatar | 11-14-2008 04:58 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 1 Attachment(s) One of my babies just touched today............ I pick it up tommarow!!! :ok:

Worldmariner | 11-14-2008 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1416121) UNFREAKIN-BELIEVABLE ! This is right off the Homepage of Classic Arms : TODAY IS FRIDAY 11/14/2008 DEAR FRIENDS- WE HAVE SO MANY PENDING ORDERS ON THE FLOOR THAT WE ARE IN DANGER OF OVERSELLING ON VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE. AS SUCH WILL DISCONTINUE ANSWERING THE PHONES OR TAKING ORDERS UNTIL WE CAN GET A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT WE STILL ACTUALLY HAVE IN STOCK. OUR PLAN IS TO WORK ALL WEEKEND TO GET CAUGHT UP AND THEN HOPEFULLY POST BACK UP THE ITEMS WE HAVE LEFT IN STOCK AND BEGIN TAKING ORDERS AGAIN ON MONDAY. WE WILL HAVE 7.62X39 AMMO AND .223 AMMO AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK AS WELL AS SOME FIREARMS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN LIMBO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. http://classicarms.us/ :confused_ma:
i wonder what the new prices for guns and ammo will be next week once the sellers all restock? my bet is at least a 20% price hike across the board.

Twisted Avatar | 11-14-2008 05:39 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Maybe more........ I think retail prices ......will be the new wholesale prices. tuff times for those of us on a limited budget. T

flying | 11-14-2008 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1416514) Maybe more........ I think retail prices ......will be the new wholesale prices. tuff times for those of us on a limited budget. T
Unfortunately I am one of those who left shopping till now. ( I had a hell of a year ) Sure I have a couple small things but I was about to get the AR & the 12ga I will find it but it may cost more now. But I will find it :ok:

ohioarmedneutrality | 11-14-2008 11:50 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! The bad news: Prices on arms and ammunition have gone up, no telling when they will come back down, if ever. The good news: American citizens are now much better armed than they were 2 weeks ago. The unknown: Will American citizens actually put these arms to good use when the time comes?

Twisted Avatar | 11-15-2008 12:33 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 1 Attachment(s) I know I will ........... Look at the length of this dam thread ............I had to move heaven and earth and Lady luck smiled on me over 3 times before I could find those black rifles (1 down 2 to go) DO YOU THINK I AM GOING TO WILLFULLY GIVE THEM UP BECAUSE THE GUBBERMINT DECLARES THEM CONTRABAND?? THEY CAN KISS MY SILVER @$$.......... THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEM FROM ME........

Twisted Avatar | 11-16-2008 11:11 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! THERE ARE 2 SAIGA 12G AVAILABLE THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING BETTER HAUL @$$ .............IT WILL NOT BE THERE IN ANOTHER 25 MINUTES IF THAT LONG MOVE IT !! MOVE IT!!!! http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=GIZ107

The Argent Dragon | 11-17-2008 09:54 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/sorrywalkin.jpg http://www.aimsurplus.com/ :confused_ma: .....ohhh and AK's locally at the show were selling for $700-$750 with the least expensive AR's for $1100-$1200. :36_1_63:

graspAU | 11-17-2008 10:10 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1420087) http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/sorrywalkin.jpg http://www.aimsurplus.com/ :confused_ma: .....ohhh and AK's locally at the show were selling for $700-$750 with the least expensive AR's for $1100-$1200. :36_1_63:
spare parts are really drying up. Looked for a few spare parts kits, and bolt carrier groups for the AR's and nothing is in stock anywhere.

Twisted Avatar | 11-17-2008 10:13 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! People are gobbling up spare parts and ammo like Pac Man power pellets. The Ghost Monsters arre coming in January.:banghead: T

Twisted Avatar | 11-17-2008 04:46 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! These Guys has a few 7.62 but they have been customized so they are the pricey side. https://www.snipercountrypx.com/p-47...ga-762x39.aspx T

Twisted Avatar | 11-17-2008 09:43 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! From the front page of classic arms.......... strange days have found us. THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY. I KNOW THE FOLLOWING IS WORDY BUT READING IT MAY HELP YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO BUY NOW. OKAY - HERE IS THE DEAL LAST WEEK WE SOLD OUT VIRTUALLY TO THE BARE WALLS. WE HAD A TON OF INVENTORY LAID IN AND STOCKPILED IN ANTICIPATION OF THE PANIC BUYING THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY THE ELECTION. IT SIMPLY WAS NOT ENOUGH. IF IT SHOOTS OR HOLDS ROUNDS OF AMMO IT PRETTY MUCH LEFT HERE LAST WEEK. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. AROUND WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK WE CHANGED OUR FOCUS FROM SELLING, TO TRYING TO BEG, BUY AND SCROUNGE ANYTHING WE COULD PURCHASE. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. MOST OF THE INDUSTRY IS EITHER OUT OF SEMI-AUTO FIREARMS, MAGS, AND AMMO, OR THEY HAVE PUSHED THE PRICE WAY UP IN ORDER TO SLOW SALES AND KEEP FROM BEING WHERE WE BASICALLY ARE NOW. SOLD OUT TO THE BARE WALLS. THE LARGEST IMPORTER IN THE COUNTRY AS OF LAST MONDAY HAS SUSPENDED SALES OF ALL OF THEIR HI-CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND RAISED PRICES ON ENTIRE CLASSES OF FIREARMS BY 25% TO 40% ACROSS THE BOARD. THE PRICE INCREASE IS REALLY IRREVALENT HOWEVER AS THEY HAVE NO AVAILABLE QUANTITIES ON ANY OF THESE FIREARMS. LET ME GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE. IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, ( JULY THRU OCTOBER ) WE SOLD THE FOLLOWING 7.62X39 AMMO................361 CASES AK 30 RD MAGS.....................................783 AK RIFLES (ALL TYPES ) .........................243 BY COMPARISON, IN THE 10 DAYS SINCE THE ELECTION WE HAVE SOLD 7.62X39 AMMO................1218 CASES AK 30 RD MAGS.....................................3855 AK RIFLES (ALL TYPES ) .........................572 THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE AR RIFLES, GOLANI RIFLES, TANTALS, AND OTHER FIREARMS THAT HAVE ALSO SOLD LIKE WILDFIRE. SOME OF OUR LARGER DEALER CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO PLACE ORDERS FOR HUNDREDS OF FIREARMS WITH US WHEN WE ONLY HAD DOZENS IN STOCK. WE ARE VERY SMALL AND THESE ARE HUGE NUMBERS FOR US. WE WOULD HAVE SOLD MORE TOO EXCEPT WE SIMPLY COULD NOT ANSWER ALL THE CALLS, AND THEN WE SOLD OUT. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN BUYING. WE PURCHASED PRODUCT ANYWHERE WE COULD FIND IT WITHOUT MUCH REGARD FOR THE PRICE. IT WAS ALL WE KNEW TO DO. IT WAS EITHER THAT OR BE SOLD OUT AND CLOSE THE DOORS. WE ARE POSTING BELOW THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR SALE. SOME OTHER ITEMS WILL BE COMING ON BOARD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS AND WE WILL POST THEM UP AS THEY ARRIVE. THE PRICES ARE HIGHER . I CAN'T APOLIGIZE FOR THAT. IN MOST CASES WE ARE PAYING MORE AND MAKING LESS. IF YOU NEED THESE ITEMS AND CAN FIND THEM FOR LESS ELSEWHERE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET THEM. I HOPE AGAINST HOPE THAT THIS MARKET WILL LEVEL BACK OUT SOON, BUT WITH BANS AND RESTCTIONS BEING ONE OF THE PRIMARY STATED GOALS OF THIS NEW ADMINISTRATIONS I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING. http://www.classicarms.us/

The Argent Dragon | 11-17-2008 09:48 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Damn, that wording says a lot...........this is freakin' nutz. Thanks for the post TA ! ~ and in my Score, gun show report I added pics of my FAL now becoming more valuable every minute !!! :coolbeer: Here's a link to my New FAL rifle pics >>> http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=322873

Twisted Avatar | 11-17-2008 10:06 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! If it wasnt for us........ those numbers he sold would have only been a mere 570 not hardly alot if we werent in the mix.:ok: But all kidding aside ....... I seen about 350 dollar premium coming on all black rifles before the year is over and a 800 plus dollar vault up within the first 100 days of Obama. Who would have ever thought I would actually miss Bush when he leaves. This truly is UNFRICKEN BELIEVIBLE. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-17-2008 10:17 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! That is what baffles me......... I would be happy as a pig in chit if I could sell my inventory over the counter....I dont have to track ,mail and insure it. Just ring up the register and be on your way. Strange. T

The Argent Dragon | 11-18-2008 11:58 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1416192) It seems like me you AD picked up the last Black rifels they could rememeber Having in stock.It feels good to beat the rush. Guess there is a God after all. :ok: T
And BEHOLD ~ my AK arrived Today !!! :565: http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q.../DSCF01181.jpg

HistoryStudent | 11-19-2008 12:13 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Guns will soon triple in price - OBAMA (HE {GOD} is with US) is the fellow coming to the old white house. :565::565::565::565: There goes the BILL OF RIGHTS after the Second Falls. :signs14::signs14:

TUMS | 11-19-2008 12:42 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 2 Attachment(s) With all the talk of Saiga 12. I just thought i'd post my Benelli m4. It's a mean son of a bleep... 7 in the tube +1 in the chamber. Plety of firepower to clear a room. I took it out today, to shoot some of this old ammo up. It's gotta be at least 30 years old.. It shot great, no jams or misfires. My shoulder hates me now, but it was worth it.. It's a fun gun, I found a few old refrigirators to shoot at..:banana: As much as I hate to do it. I might just have to start shopping for a Springfield Armory m1a, Socom16. I need some leads on once fired 308 brass. Any help would be great!!!! If i'm going to have to stay in america, I might as well be ready for the bull$hit that's guaranteed to erupt in the next few years.

WAoG | 11-19-2008 12:51 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Bought a new rifle yesterday from a in state gun dealer. He said nothing going on local but internet sale were good. We average in this state 4 guns per house. I guess most people here do not need a new gun? I wanted this kind of rifle for years and the one I wanted was stolen from its owner (I just found out) and I knew then I better get one now as they are kind of rare. He has cancer and I thought I would get his sooner or later. I was blessed that this dealer just bought a collection of these rifles and he had not yet sold them all. I found him looking for this rifle the day I heard the rifle was stolen at gunbrokers.com. I was there the next night and got a better looking rifle than the one I wanted. It is sweet!!

koyaanisqatsi | 11-19-2008 02:22 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by WAoG (Post 1423454) I found him looking for this rifle the day I heard the rifle was stolen at gunbrokers.com.
I had 4 firearms stolen in a burglary from my home in Dec. 2006. The finest was a DPMS Panther LR308, 24" stainless bull barrel, with 4 19-rnd mags, Rock River trigger, a Sightron 3-12x scope, A Burris Red Dot, Warne detachable mounts, Harris bipod, drag bag, etc. I dream that one day I will be contacted that they found just one of my stolen guns. It took me 3 weeks to meet the detective assigned to the case, then they acted like I was a drug using survivalist nutcase, not a victim. Police were worse than uselss and yet I told them who did it, gave them a TON of strong circumstantial evidence -- but he got away like they did not care, only to be busted for stealing a car, unrelated and by chance, just 4 months later. All the guns are still 'out there'. Oh well, i've STILL GOT MY ROMY AK, with a chinese and a Bulgarian 75-round mags all for $550 on Gunbroker.com 3 years ago. Never ever jams, hits soup cans at 100yds just fine... I stocked 4,000 7.6x39 rounds too at those old prices, some are the chinese mild steel cores ... It's all solid value, a better investment than silver in that time I'm surprised to say, but Barack is the reason I guess. The winds of change ... but "an ill wind blows no good."

Twisted Avatar | 11-19-2008 05:40 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! The Cops are Good for nothing But to wite a dam report .......and tell you to take it up with insurance.(if you have any) You know something??They are probally GLAD your shyt got stolen. Bunch of @$$holes. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-19-2008 05:40 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1423382) And BEHOLD ~ my AK arrived Today !!! :565: http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q.../DSCF01181.jpg
How the hell do you get your stuff so quick AD??? Dam. T

CrufflerJJ | 11-19-2008 08:58 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1421211) That is what baffles me......... I would be happy as a pig in chit if I could sell my inventory over the counter....I dont have to track ,mail and insure it. Just ring up the register and be on your way. Strange. T
Not strange at all. The walk-in counter at AIM is just that - a sales counter, with maybe a 6 ft x 15 ft entryway attached to it. The person taking care of the walk-in customers (some of whom may just be "tire thumpers" wasting the sales person's time) has to answer the customers' questions, wait till they finish diddling with (inspecting) the weapon, write up the order, then walk back to the warehouse to either retrieve the weapon, or pass on the sales info for case quantity ammo purchases to their warehouse/shipping people. You then pick up your case (or 2 or 3 or...) of ammo at their overhead door shipping dock. If you think about it from AIM's standpoint, their employee is tied up handling what is normally VERY SMALL volume orders. That same employee, on the other hand, could be processing larger volume mail orders, or helping to take care of backorders. I been a walk-in & mail order customer at AIM for about 10 years. I've always felt that the availability of walk-in service is a nice touch. Given the current business environment, they may no longer be able to afford this "nice touch." I hope that when things settle back down, they'll reopen the counter.

Twisted Avatar | 11-19-2008 09:04 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1423781) Not strange at all. The walk-in counter at AIM is just that - a sales counter, with maybe a 6 ft x 15 ft entryway attached to it. The person taking care of the walk-in customers (some of whom may just be "tire thumpers" wasting the sales person's time) has to answer the customers' questions, wait till they finish diddling with (inspecting) the weapon, write up the order, then walk back to the warehouse to either retrieve the weapon, or pass on the sales info for case quantity ammo purchases to their warehouse/shipping people. You then pick up your case (or 2 or 3 or...) of ammo at their overhead door shipping dock. If you think about it from AIM's standpoint, their employee is tied up handling what is normally VERY SMALL volume orders. That same employee, on the other hand, could be processing larger volume mail orders, or helping to take care of backorders. I been a walk-in & mail order customer at AIM for about 10 years. I've always felt that the availability of walk-in service is a nice touch. Given the current business environment, they may no longer be able to afford this "nice touch." I hope that when things settle back down, they'll reopen the counter.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh That makes sense now. I just assumed that folks walking in knew what they wanted.... I forgot about the "tire kickers and chain pullers" Rather than chewing up time with a "potential sale" these workers could be processing "actual sales". Thanks for the clarifcation:ok::ok::ok: T

Twisted Avatar | 11-19-2008 12:46 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! With your Reputation as a long standing customer I dont think that would be a problem. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-20-2008 10:31 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 1 Attachment(s) The 7.62 has touched down!!! I pick it up tommarow!!!

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 10:33 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1426149) The 7.62 has touched down!!! I pick it up tommarow!!!
:RockOn: TA ! Here locally it's going for $6 per box of 20 if available.........what did you pay if ya don't mind ?

Twisted Avatar | 11-20-2008 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1426154) :RockOn: TA ! Here locally it's going for $6 per box of 20 if available.........what did you pay if ya don't mind ?
No....no........ I meant my Sagia Rifle Hell, if it was ammo I would have picked it today!!

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 10:56 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1426159) No....no........ I meant my Sagia Rifle !
CONGRATS brothah ! :553::565::553: :coolbeer: :emotions16:

AMforPM | 11-20-2008 11:04 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I've been afraid to buy any 'assault rifle' because the gov is so hyper about them and I did not want to go on some dam list. Same reason I did not get a concealed weapon permit. Hunting type long guns (12 ga is pretty effective defense) and mostly 38 handguns. But now that so many people need cash bad, I might buy one from a local individual. I know they are worlds better than hunting guns if things get really bad. We've been using our laser grips to improve our handgun accuracy. I was aiming about a foot low and 6 inches to the left, over and over, but I don't use the sights at all. Dad taught us to shoot handguns by feel, kind of like batting, and I used to be a lot better at it. But it has been a lot of years since I shot much, and I'd better make sure the laser is telling me the truth at the range. When Dad would take us out in the desert to learn I could hit my milkjug targets fast. You had to practice till you could was his standard. He believed if you really needed to use your handgun you didn't have time for the FBI pose.

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Conk | 11-20-2008 11:16 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Dang TA, that thing is wicked looking. Someone could be injured just looking at that thing. Sweet.

Twisted Avatar | 11-20-2008 11:27 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Conk (Post 1426237) Dang TA, that thing is wicked looking. Someone could be injured just looking at that thing. Sweet.
It was only 399!!(now 420) I all most crapped my knickers when I say that price because the shop wanted to charge 550 for the regular. That wood furniture on it is amazing!! I have never seen anybody have a Saiga with it. Cant wait for the field test and pics.:ok: T

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 11:36 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Conk (Post 1426237) ....Someone could be injured just looking at that thing. Sweet.
No, only the ALL black rifles can injure people, The wood renders this one as a 'safe' model. :sarcasm:

Twisted Avatar | 11-20-2008 11:40 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1426287) No, only the ALL black rifles can injure people, The wood renders this one as a 'safe' model. :sarcasm:
LOL AD Quick question: I see the acronym EWB being tossed around ...what dose it stand for ??? T

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 12:18 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1426295) LOL AD Quick question: I see the acronym EWB being tossed around ...what dose it stand for ???
AWB = Assault Weapons Ban EBR = Evil Black Rifle Not sure on EWB but Evil Weapons Ban sounds appropriate. :wink:

Stand Watie | 11-20-2008 12:48 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by AMforPM (Post 1426221) We've been using our laser grips to improve our handgun accuracy. I was aiming about a foot low and 6 inches to the left, over and over, but I don't use the sights at all. Dad taught us to shoot handguns by feel, kind of like batting, and I used to be a lot better at it. But it has been a lot of years since I shot much, and I'd better make sure the laser is telling me the truth at the range. When Dad would take us out in the desert to learn I could hit my milkjug targets fast. You had to practice till you could was his standard. He believed if you really needed to use your handgun you didn't have time for the FBI pose.
Just be sure to get in lots of practice with your opposite hand. (I'm right handed but for some reason shoot better with my left. Not sure where that two hands on your handgun even came from.)

Twisted Avatar | 11-20-2008 12:56 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! TThanx AD It was EBR T

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 01:06 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1426456) It was EBR
And for the Newbies, here's the Ultimate EBR in my book ! http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/...c183bLarge.jpg :s15: :ok:

Brent | 11-20-2008 01:10 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Stand Watie (Post 1426439) Just be sure to get in lots of practice with your opposite hand. (I'm right handed but for some reason shoot better with my left. Not sure where that two hands on your handgun even came from.)
It makes it easier to control the recoil as well as making it easier to aim. Overall it just gives you better control over every aspect of the tool. There is almost always a good reason that professionals do things the way that they do.

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 01:46 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! UNFREAKIN-BELIEVABLE ! AK-47 AVAILABILITY LANCASTER ARMS - ACCEPTING ORDERS. CENTURY INTERNATIONAL ARMS - ACCEPTING ORDERS ON RI1188-N AND RI1166-N ONLY. ARSENAL INC - ACCEPTING ORDERS ON STAMPED RECEIVER MODELS, SELECT MODELS IN STOCK. VECTOR ARMS - ALL MODELS SOLD OUT, NOT AVAILABLE. ALL MODELS LISTED ABOVE AS "ACCEPTING ORDERS" ARE TEMPORARILY OUT OF STOCK. DUE TO THE HUGE DEMAND ON THESE TYPES OF RIFLES, ALL NEW ORDERS WILL BE PLACED ON OUR WAITING LIST ONCE YOUR PRELIMINARY ORDER IS COMPLETE. YOUR PRELIMINARY ORDER IS CONSIDERED COMPLETE ONCE WE RECEIVE YOUR ONLINE ORDER FORM (STEP #2 ON OUR BUYING INSTRUCTIONS PAGE, TRANSFER DEALERS SIGNED FFL COPY AND PAYMENT. THE WAITING LIST WILL BE FULFILLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE PRELIMINARY ORDERS ARE RECEIVED. http://www.eastcoastfirearms.com/

Twisted Avatar | 11-20-2008 02:00 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! We have witnessed the. end of a era. The days of easy gun owner ship are gone and gone for good. Buckle up............it gets real bumpy from here on in. T

Stand Watie | 11-20-2008 02:15 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent (Post 1426479) It makes it easier to control the recoil as well as making it easier to aim. Overall it just gives you better control over every aspect of the tool. There is almost always a good reason that professionals do things the way that they do.
Not for me. Always did better with one hand. Plus if one hand/arm is injured, occupied, etc., then what do you do? As for professionals, eh. We had lots of pros in The Corps�as long as the target was stationary and not shooting back.

The Argent Dragon | 11-20-2008 02:39 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! "I got 2 guns - ONE for each of you." http://imagecache2.allposters.com/im...ne-Posters.jpg "I'm you're Huckleberry......"

Twisted Avatar | 11-21-2008 01:57 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I FINALLY got my last Saiga picked up. The NICS didnt take as long (as a matter fact the guy did my paper before I arrived so my number was waiting when I got there. The Saiga with the walnut stock I got from Classic arms looks ABSOLUTELY BAD@$$ I will give a Range report in about a week. Thanks everybody for all their help. T

Twisted Avatar | 11-24-2008 01:09 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Im Back for one more Ribbing:biggrin: I am looking for a Good Ak-47......... I would like to have something that can can hold standard mags and drums. I checked a few of the usual suspect Atlantic and Classic are soldout ( I missed classic by about 40 minutes:36_1_28: Thanks for the help. T

meatman | 11-24-2008 01:21 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by AMforPM (Post 1426221) But now that so many people need cash bad, I might buy one from a local individual.
I am going to be picking up some good deals 99.99% of people buying guns are using their credit cards. easy pickens when the bills start coming in, I see it on gun forums already. guy not to far from me had a .357 for sale need cash ASAP for $400 I emailed him and 2 hours later meet him on a dirt road gave him $150 cash. picked up a lot of my guns that way. and will be picking up shit load more. show me a person that has debts and I will show you how I will get their guns for 30 cents on the dollar. only fools have debt

Twisted Avatar | 11-24-2008 01:32 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1432704) I am going to be picking up some good deals 99.99% of people buying guns are using their credit cards. easy pickens when the bills start coming in, I see it on gun forums already. guy not to far from me had a .357 for sale need cash ASAP for $400 I emailed him and 2 hours later meet him on a dirt road gave him $150 cash. picked up a lot of my guns that way. and will be picking up shit load more. show me a person that has debts and I will show you how I will get their guns for 30 cents on the dollar. only fools have debt
Sounds like you and Mtman may be cousins

Twisted Avatar | 11-25-2008 11:30 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I just dealt with this place Sparta Guns ask for Jeff (336)-372-4867 They have a alot of Saiga hardware and Rifles They dont have a website but they put stuff up for auction at Gunsamerica.com all the time They will ship out product the same day if the order is before 11:30am I order with them on Saturday and my product is here TODAY. T

Brent | 11-25-2008 02:35 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Stand Watie (Post 1426573) Not for me. Always did better with one hand. Plus if one hand/arm is injured, occupied, etc., then what do you do? As for professionals, eh. We had lots of pros in The Corps�as long as the target was stationary and not shooting back.
Interesting, thanks for that, I guess it stands to reason that some people would shoot better with one hand. Don't get me wrong , I practice one handed as well as off hand shooting. I just feel that for me personally if I want to make a precision shot you can bet I will have two hands on the gun. Personally of all the training videos I have watched I have never seen the instructor advise one handed shooting. I have also never read this in a online training guide, everything seems to advise shooting with both hands on the gun. Now, they do advocate training with one-handed shooting both strong and off hand but nothing like the type of training that you supposedly should put into two-handed shooting. :beer:

The Argent Dragon | 11-25-2008 02:51 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent (Post 1434750) Now, they do advocate training with one-handed shooting both strong and off hand but nothing like the type of training that you supposedly should put into two-handed shooting.
Years ago, I was on the College pistol team. Competition required one handed shooting with your other hand behind your back. I'm sure this originated from dueling centuries ago when Gentlemen would square off against each other. It's surprisingly difficult at first to keep steady but you also learn to 'rest' in between shots. It's great training and improves your aiming ability greatly. :wink:

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 12:24 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN:confused_ma::confused_ma::confused_ma: This time I am in the hunt to put together a family of Glocks (2)17 (2)19 (2)26's Pistols are a bit of song and dance to do as they require a permit so I was holding back until I had the cash. Wrong move. I cant find a soul now (online) that has em in stock....... The Armory ,a very big distributer said, said Glock is behind over200,000-300,000 units(depending on who you ask) When I inquired further for (Mr Pete) to translate that in terms of wait time he put it at 6-7 months MININMUM Even Law Enforcement (supposed priority placement) just for a bare bones G19 the wait has been over 3 months and counting. Thunderstuck dosent not even begin to describe. So we all know the drill at this point: Anybody have any links or local shops that have a few in stock please provide contact info. Thanks in advance. T

graspAU | 12-17-2008 12:46 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1470498) HERE WE GO AGAIN:confused_ma::confused_ma::confused_ma: This time I am in the hunt to put together a family of Glocks (2)17 (2)19 (2)26's So we all know the drill at this point: Anybody have any links or local shops that have a few in stock please provide contact info. Thanks in advance. T
Clyde Armory is your friend. All glock models are in stock. https://policeguns.com/catalog/index...u5for6lvcef206

flying | 12-17-2008 12:48 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 768 Glocks on Gunbroker now http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.asp Many of these guys are dealers with phone numbers listed so you need not even register to buy.

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 01:02 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Thanks fellas!!! T

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 01:03 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by graspAU (Post 1470535) Clyde Armory is your friend. All glock models are in stock. https://policeguns.com/catalog/index...u5for6lvcef206
He has Glocks listed for under 400 bucks........ Wow!!! T

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 01:57 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by graspAU (Post 1470535) Clyde Armory is your friend. All glock models are in stock. https://policeguns.com/catalog/index...u5for6lvcef206
Just had a great chat with one of there staff (Zack) Here is the scoop. THEY ARE SOLD OUT AND PRETTY EVERYTHING ELSE (Glock and HK's) ARE ON BACK ORDER He said Glock was behind by like 90,000 units I told him That number has trippled as I confirmed through several huge volume dealers even he didnt know it got that bad. Happy Hunting!!:ok: T

graspAU | 12-17-2008 02:02 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1470623) Just had a great chat with one of there staff (Zack) Here is the scoop. THEY ARE SOLD OUT AND PRETTY EVERYTHING ELSE (Glock and HK's) ARE ON BACK ORDER He said Glock was behind by like 90,000 units I told him That number has trippled as I confirmed through several huge volume dealers even he didnt know it got that bad. Happy Hunting!!:ok: T
Hmm. They usually keep up with the stock status! Thanks for the info. Guns are on the edge of priceless (and ammo, parts, accessories). I got a case of 00 buck and some 870 magazine tube springs delivered today. Feels good to get my hands on something, because if you don't hold it...! More glock hi cap mags on order. Still searching the whole country for an FN SLP shotgun .

flying | 12-17-2008 02:12 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by graspAU (Post 1470639) Hmm. They usually keep up with the stock status! Thanks for the info. Guns are on the edge of priceless (and ammo, parts, accessories). I got a case of 00 buck and some 870 magazine tube springs delivered today. Feels good to get my hands on something, because if you don't hold it...! More glock hi cap mags on order. Still searching the whole country for an FN SLP shotgun .
Hey not to change the subject but...... Whats up with the 870 mag springs? Do they wear pretty quick or?? Just curious as I just got the 870 yesterday. Thanks As for prices yeah things are crazy but at the same time seems like things are pulling back a bit. The price gouging is slowing a bit & I am seeing more NIB stuff for sale. Looks like many over bought & now want some $$$ back? Not sure but I am glad the AR's I wanted was out. Turns out I am getting one built by a custom builder ( he is flush with the parts too )for a price so good I cannot believe it. Will post pics & specs when done.

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by flying (Post 1470663) Hey not to change the subject but...... Whats up with the 870 mag springs? Do they wear pretty quick or?? Just curious as I just got the 870 yesterday. Thanks As for prices yeah things are crazy but at the same time seems like things are pulling back a bit. The price gouging is slowing a bit & I am seeing more NIB stuff for sale. Looks like many over bought & now want some $$$ back? Not sure but I am glad the AR's I wanted was out. Turns out I am getting one built by a custom builder ( he is flush with the parts too )for a price so good I cannot believe it. Will post pics & specs when done.
Post that information on the guy...........some one out there may be in the market for one and that idea had not crossed there mind. Please share. T

graspAU | 12-17-2008 02:48 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by flying (Post 1470663) Whats up with the 870 mag springs? Do they wear pretty quick or?? Just curious as I just got the 870 yesterday. Thanks
I have seen different timeframes quoted from 6-12 months on changing them out if you are keeping the shotgun magazine loaded all the time, if it is your main home defense weapon. I keep mine unloaded, but picked up a couple extra since I am trying to create spare parts kits for all my guns. midwayusa.com had the springs.

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TempusFugit | 12-17-2008 03:27 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! TA, Summit is listing G17s and may have other models as well. This fellow buys PD surplus and returns as well as new firearms . I have delt with with him before twice and been very satisfied. Worth a shot. Good luck. http://www.summitgunbroker.com/index.html

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 03:32 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Much appreciated Tempus. :ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok: T

Eulenspiegel | 12-17-2008 04:09 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by flying (Post 1470663) As for prices yeah things are crazy but at the same time seems like things are pulling back a bit. The price gouging is slowing a bit & I am seeing more NIB stuff for sale. Looks like many over bought & now want some $$$ back?
There was a lot of speculation. People were buying mags, rifles, etc. to turn around for a profit. Some may not be aware that buying a gun with the express intent to sell it (FTF) could be considered a straw purchase, or dealing, and the BATF probably won't look kindly upon that.

Twisted Avatar | 12-17-2008 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Eulenspiegel (Post 1470875) There was a lot of speculation. People were buying mags, rifles, etc. to turn around for a profit. Some may not be aware that buying a gun with the express intent to sell it (FTF) could be considered a straw purchase, or dealing, and the BATF probably won't look kindly upon that.
DING!! DING!! DING!! I am in Jersey and I was on the Turnpike I swear every fourth billboard was plastered with the same message

Eulenspiegel | 12-17-2008 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1470928) DING!! DING!! DING!! I am in Jersey and I was on the Turnpike I swear every fourth billboard was plastered with the same message
It's amazing how many people (those who aren't "gun nuts") think there are no laws around this stuff. A few months ago, there was an arrest dealing with a sawed-off shotgun, and I explained to a friend why they were regulated, etc. He seemed incredulous on all the regulations and process. Take the profit motive, and throw in all the people who prefer to buy a gun "paperless", and I expect to see a lot of Feds staying busy.

flying | 12-17-2008 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1470672) Post that information on the guy...........some one out there may be in the market for one and that idea had not crossed there mind. Please share. T
I will as soon as I get the spec sheet & the final quote. I dont want to endorse till 100%

igorthesmall | 12-17-2008 08:39 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by TempusFugit (Post 1470797) TA, Summit is listing G17s and may have other models as well. This fellow buys PD surplus and returns as well as new firearms . I have delt with with him before twice and been very satisfied. Worth a shot. Good luck. http://www.summitgunbroker.com/index.html
I bought my used Glock 19 from summitgundealer. I think I paid $425 total, with shipping, FFL transfer, etc. Its a 2nd gen gun with nightsights and came with 2 (15 round) mags. This was probably 6 months or so ago. He definitely is a reputable dealer. (and a bad speller!)

igorthesmall | 12-17-2008 08:41 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Here is a nice deal from summitgunbroker http://www.summitgunbroker.com/Remington_870_AOW.html Remington 870 with 14 inch barrel and pistol grip. Also listed as AOW so only $5 tax stamp instead of $200 for SBR. $625, brand new.

gangsta99 | 12-17-2008 10:25 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by igorthesmall (Post 1471366) Here is a nice deal from summitgunbroker http://www.summitgunbroker.com/Remington_870_AOW.html Remington 870 with 14 inch barrel and pistol grip. Also listed as AOW so only $5 tax stamp instead of $200 for SBR. $625, brand new.
Some cool stuff on their site. I want something like this.

Twisted Avatar | 01-03-2009 09:37 AM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Welll after much nail biting,begging, and burning the midnite oil. I was finally able to put together my family of Glocks.:565::565::565: The places I got the chance to deal with still have some: Denver gun room (303) 237 1300 Ask for Tom. They only have two toned (black on desert sand)Glocks left in stock. Florida Gun Exchange (386) 304 9499 Ask for Roger. They still have a very nice slection of black Glocks left they advertise them on Guns America alot. Anybody debating I sugest you move quickly........ I mean very quickly. Also a major hat tip to whoever said try and search listings for contact phone numbers for dealers......... that really saved the day for me!!!. T

flying | 01-03-2009 01:44 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1492873) Welll after much nail biting,begging, and burning the midnite oil. I was finally able to put together my family of Glocks.:565::565::565: Also a major hat tip to whoever said try and search listings for contact phone numbers for dealers......... that really saved the day for me!!!. T
Congrats & glad you got what you were looking for. I was the one that mentioned that about the dealers on gunbroker That is what I do also. There are a ton of them there. Sometimes their name is the website or like you saw their numbers is in the listing. Congrats again ....Have Fun!

Twisted Avatar | 01-03-2009 01:48 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! 1 Attachment(s) Thanks Fly!!! You get a BIG GOLD STAR for all your help :ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

flying | 01-03-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1493148) Thanks Fly!!! You get a BIG GOLD STAR for all your help :ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:
LOL thanks but I could use brass more right now :wink: Glad you made out. Post pics when you get your new family members

graspAU | 01-03-2009 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1492873) I was finally able to put together my family of Glocks.:565::565::565:
What model #'s make up the family? I'm a G21 and G30 person. Thinking of getting a 36, or maybe a second 21 and 30.

Twisted Avatar | 01-03-2009 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by graspAU (Post 1493157) What model #'s make up the family? I'm a G21 and G30 person. Thinking of getting a 36, or maybe a second 21 and 30.
I stayed in the 9MM caliber 17's 19's 26's On top of holding there desgined Mag they can all hold 17 and 33 rounders. A Glock can shoot the cheapest crap to the best +P+ with realitive ease Plus I can teach a person to use one in about 20 minutes if I had to. 9MM is one of the most pleantful calibers around...... and the fact that Glock is over 200,000 units behind is proof of this. I want to have what is in demand.........there is a reason for it. T

graspAU | 01-03-2009 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1493168) I stayed in the 9MM caliber 17's 19's 26's On top of holding there desgined Mag they can all hold 17 and 33 rounders. A Glock can shoot the cheapest crap to the best +P+ with realitive ease Plus I can teach a person to use one in about 20 minutes if I had to. 9MM is one of the most pleantful calibers around...... and the fact that Glock is over 200,000 units behind is proof of this. I want to have what is in demand.........there is reason for it. T
Nice. My first handgun was a G21, I got good with it, and never really got into anything else but 45's. Glocks are my favorite, and the best gun is the one you are proficient with. Enjoy!

rad | 01-28-2009 08:01 PM
Re: UNFRICKEN BELIEVEABLE!!!!!! If someone is looking for Saiga 12's there are 2 at the ammo box in Sun Prairie WI outside Madison for 639. They also just got in a Barrett XM107 for 9999.

Twisted Avatar | 01-28-2009 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rad (Post 1537007) If someone is looking for Saiga 12's there are 2 at the ammo box in Sun Prairie WI outside Madison for 639. They also just got in a Barrett XM107 for 9999.
That is not a bad price........they were going for 599 but I seen some as high as 899 on Gunbroker. Good info to pass along :ok: T

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