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erocktxmade | 12-01-2008 12:50 PM
To Hell with a CHL I would carry anyway with stories like these: Woman fatally shot (In the Head!) at gas station may be robbery victim http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6140552.html According to story she fought with the person, thats mistake number one IMO... I think it will only get worse in the near future...

Brent | 12-01-2008 01:19 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Once it gets bad enough it won't matter. There wont be enough police for getting caught without a license to even be an issue (unless you happen to be very unlucky/stupid).

The Argent Dragon | 12-01-2008 01:22 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Texas gun law battle brewing over 'open carry' proposal By Anna M. Tinsley Fort Worth Star-Telegam They're setting their sights on Texas and coming out firing. More than a month before the legislative session starts Jan. 13, gun-rights supporters are asking state lawmakers to pass an "open carry" law to let Texans stop covering up the guns they carry and wear them openly. They are putting their message on billboards, on banners on cabs and in radio ads, asking others to sign on to the cause. "We are targeting Texas," said Mike Stollenwerk, co-founder of www.opencarry.org, a champion of the growing nationwide effort. "Texas is probably the most pro-gun state, but doesn�t have open-carry laws. "As Texans realize how restrictive their rights are . . . there will be an awakening. Get ready for a showdown in Austin come January." Texas is somewhat of an open-carry battleground because it is one of only six states where handguns cannot, in some form, legally be worn in plain view. Texas residents may carry concealed handguns if they have a permit. Read the full story at star http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...ry/793968.html

CrufflerJJ | 12-01-2008 02:04 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by erocktxmade (Post 1442708) According to story she fought with the person, thats mistake number one IMO... I think it will only get worse in the near future...
So it's far better if she doesn't fight, THEN gets shot in the head? Good for her for at least resisting. Sorry that she was not able to pop her attacker.

erocktxmade | 12-01-2008 02:31 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1442864) So it's far better if she doesn't fight, THEN gets shot in the head?
Basically yes. If someone has a gun on you and you arent a master of self defense, its best just to hand over your wallet. Better that than a hole in the head. Let me reverse situtation on you. If YOU had a gun on ME do you think I could get it from YOU before you could shoot ME?

mk3hunter | 12-05-2008 03:27 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL I carry everywhere. I have a permit but I will walk into schools, anywhere. I carry to protect my life and my families life. Signs will not stop me. There comes a point to law with respect of liberty vs crime. Police and politicians didnt help her....and now she is dead. She doesnt get to come back and bitch about the stupidity of laws (made to "protect her"..haha) America has to many God damn laws and they dont enforce half of them. Little ol' me looks at the risk/benefit ratio of my families protection and I proceed from there. There are many laws that dont make sense......donesnt mean I going to follow them. Good luck fellow citizens....you are up against office holders and criminals........sometimes...they are both.....using your money to do it.

harper | 12-05-2008 04:38 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL .... and what the hell does this have to do with CHL's? or is your statement that you are going to carry without one?

<SLV> | 12-05-2008 04:43 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by erocktxmade (Post 1442932) Basically yes. If someone has a gun on you and you arent a master of self defense, its best just to hand over your wallet. Better that than a hole in the head. Let me reverse situtation on you. If YOU had a gun on ME do you think I could get it from YOU before you could shoot ME?
I think there is a good chance he might have put her in the car, made her drive off into the middle of nowhere, raped her, then killed her. If he said, "Get in the car!" she knew her chances were better right there.

B4ITS2L8 | 12-05-2008 04:48 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1451671) I think there is a good chance he might have put her in the car, made her drive off into the middle of nowhere, raped her, then killed her. If he said, "Get in the car!" she knew her chances were better right there.
That's right!! My wife would rather fight & die right there than go for a "ride" first. Running away does not work if he already had his meat hooks on her before she noticed him. R.I.P.

budfox | 12-05-2008 05:19 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1451671) I think there is a good chance he might have put her in the car, made her drive off into the middle of nowhere, raped her, then killed her. If he said, "Get in the car!" she knew her chances were better right there.
I've seen numerous experts discuss this. That is the correct advice. Make your stand what ever it's going to be.

erocktxmade | 12-05-2008 09:58 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1451671) I think there is a good chance he might have put her in the car, made her drive off into the middle of nowhere, raped her, then killed her. If he said, "Get in the car!" she knew her chances were better right there.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas. Who knows what REALLY happened. I was just going with the story at hand. You're pumping gas and some schmo wants your dollars against your will. I STILL say hand over your wallet and STFU. Could he still kill you? Theres always the chance BUT statistics say no.

erocktxmade | 12-05-2008 10:06 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by budfox (Post 1451724) I've seen numerous experts discuss this. . Make your stand what ever it's going to be.
I wholeheartedly disagree. I'd like to see what experts tell you to put up a fight ( 'what ever it's going to be') with a pistol aimed in your direction (your face/head) and you (the one who has the pistol pointed at) knows NOTHING about self defense AND caught completely off guard and have nothing to size up with except fear and emotion. She screwed up and should have just handed over the money. What is my reason to say this? Well, her dead body for one...

drafter | 12-05-2008 10:13 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by erocktxmade (Post 1452104) If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas. Who knows what REALLY happened. I was just going with the story at hand. You're pumping gas and some schmo wants your dollars against your will. I STILL say hand over your wallet and STFU. Could he still kill you? Theres always the chance BUT statistics say no.
Well "statistically" those guys that got shot while laying face down in a dunkin donuts a while back shouldn't have been, since they offered no resistance. I'm not willing to place my faith in "statistics" these days because a lot of todays criminals aren't in it just for the money. They're "sadistic" freaks. If I'm going to die it isn't going to be on my knees.

mk3hunter | 12-07-2008 02:51 AM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
.... and what the hell does this have to do with CHL's? or is your statement that you are going to carry without one?
read the title of the thread big guy. I'm saying do what you have too to be safe and protected.......and that this can mean breaking a law to do it. Great Get a permit if it makes you feel all better inside. I have one. But the "no firearm" signs just have no meaning to me.

Twisted Avatar | 12-07-2008 03:00 AM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1451671) I think there is a good chance he might have put her in the car, made her drive off into the middle of nowhere, raped her, then killed her. If he said, "Get in the car!" she knew her chances were better right there.
I have to agree...... If somebody got the drop on me ........ they get the wallet(not worth my life) But If I see they are "looking for more" Then I go down giving that bastard everything I got ........and then some. Al least she died fighting. May she be taken up into the bosom of heaven.......... may a pox be on the animal that did this. T

____hoot____ | 12-07-2008 08:00 AM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Ever been sprayed in the face with a super-sized can of cheap Walmart carb cleaner? You'll wish you'd been maced.

RoadKing | 12-07-2008 08:39 AM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Yes, accidently, but I did spend the next 3 hours in an emergency room have my eye lids held open and sterilized bags of water slowly dripped into my eyes. They said I was lucky it was only a small amount that got in my eyes or I could have lost my sight. RK

mk3hunter | 12-08-2008 03:04 AM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Al least she died fighting.
There is diginity in fighting for your life. The left fail on this.......but I think they know they are failing on this and that it is by design......thats why they are to fought every step of the way......criminals and liberals. LOL

Twisted Avatar | 12-08-2008 04:53 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 1453703) Ever been sprayed in the face with a super-sized can of cheap Walmart carb cleaner? You'll wish you'd been maced.
Very good to know....... I will be stocking up on some this.

<SLV> | 12-08-2008 04:58 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1455673) Very good to know....... I will be stocking up on some this.
Gonna put that in a super-soaker? (it might dissolve the plastic) Go for an aerosol can instead: http://www.partsamerica.com/product_...g/gum/7459.jpg

Highwayman | 12-08-2008 04:59 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Permit Smermit. If I feel the need to carry, I carry. They can shove their unconstitutional "permits".

igorthesmall | 12-08-2008 05:19 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Here is my CHL http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...onlaw/bill.jpg

Maximus | 12-08-2008 05:20 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL One thing is for sure... Compliance only insures victimization. They'll have to get through my sword and shield first!

Highwayman | 12-08-2008 05:29 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL Hey your CHL looks just like mine!

ohioarmedneutrality | 12-08-2008 06:33 PM
Re: To Hell with a CHL I don't carry guns. Heck I don't even own guns! I "lost" all mine years ago in a tragic U-Haul accident.

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