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King_Squais | 02-19-2010 09:47 PM
Surplus 308 So there is a bunch of this German 308 coming in at midway and ammoman. They say its not corroded like a bunch of the other 308. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=945421

mayhem | 02-19-2010 09:50 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Same thing at Aim Surplus and a lot cheaper. German DAG .308 FMJ NATO (7.62x51) New Arrival! 1990's Surplus German NATO 7.62x51 (.308) DAG ammunition. This is beautiful, accurate ammunition packaged for long term storage. Features a 147grn lead core full copper and nickel (magnetic) jacketed bullet, brass case, and non-corrosive berdan primer. Packed 20rds in a box, 200rds (10 boxes) in a sealed waterproof PVC battlepack. 200rd Battle Pack: $89.95ea

King_Squais | 02-19-2010 09:52 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 2189374) Same thing at Aim Surplus and a lot cheaper. German DAG .308 FMJ NATO (7.62x51) New Arrival! 1990's Surplus German NATO 7.62x51 (.308) DAG ammunition. This is beautiful, accurate ammunition packaged for long term storage. Features a 147grn lead core full copper and nickel (magnetic) jacketed bullet, brass case, and non-corrosive berdan primer. Packed 20rds in a box, 200rds (10 boxes) in a sealed waterproof PVC battlepack. 200rd Battle Pack: $89.95ea
Shot any though? What bothers me is all that corroded german stuff that everybody had a few months ago. There was something in the cardboard.

SilverCity | 02-19-2010 10:02 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Never heard of any corrosive 308 Nato.

mayhem | 02-19-2010 10:36 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Squais (Post 2189376) Shot any though? What bothers me is all that corroded german stuff that everybody had a few months ago. There was something in the cardboard.
No I haven't. I got a email from Aim this morning. I stocked up when the AmmoMan had Lake City (brass and boxer primed, re-loadable) .308 for $125.00 for 500 count in 2006.

General of Darkness | 02-19-2010 10:50 PM
Re: Surplus 308 German 308 surplus. How do you think it's going to shoot? Probably really good, it's German. I'll probably get 3 battle packs. That's decent price in these times unfortunately.

King_Squais | 02-19-2010 10:59 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by General of Darkness (Post 2189503) German 308 surplus. How do you think it's going to shoot? Probably really good, it's German. I'll probably get 3 battle packs. That's decent price in these times unfortunately.
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...dir=18|830|848 http://www.wideners.com/images/fulls/Image1569.jpg

eat_beef | 02-19-2010 11:58 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 2189402) Never heard of any corrosive 308 Nato.
As seen above, the corrosion is outside, on the cases. BTW, there's a lot of Seller and Belliot corrosive ammo out there, it's still for sale at samco global. It's headstamped O-O and year (86?), and in light blue 10x2 boxes. Rumor is that S&B mfgd it for contract to someone in South America, but they never paid up... As to the original question, supposedly this batch is in a lot better than the last batch. I've shot a little DAG and MEN, and it's pretty good. Check out XXIV Corps thread at www.m14tfl.com

General of Darkness | 02-20-2010 12:05 AM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Squais (Post 2189524) http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...dir=18|830|848 http://www.wideners.com/images/fulls/Image1569.jpg
I doubt that ammoman would ship crap like that. But maybe I'm wrong.

Ruthless Defaulter | 02-20-2010 01:14 AM
Re: Surplus 308 I wouldn't touch anything that looked like that. It doesn't appear to be simply surface tarnish, but stuff that could go deep enough to affect case integrity.

MISRy | 02-20-2010 06:58 AM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 2189374) 200rd Battle Pack: $89.95ea
Holy Gonzo Batman! I know I've been out of the loop for a while, I've been bench resting and expect ammo pricing to reflect my specs. But Holy Crap! I swear, the last I paid for a battlepack was $39.95. And I *know* I rotated stock 2 years ago during the FA shoot.

eat_beef | 02-20-2010 08:09 AM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by General of Darkness (Post 2189669) I doubt that ammoman would ship crap like that. But maybe I'm wrong.
You're wrong. :biggrin: "Eric/Marty/the ammoman" is the worst sort of scum. There's a reason he, as a paid sponsor, has been kicked off every firearms forum on the net. Do a search for ammoman fraud.:thumpdown

Osprey550 | 02-20-2010 09:48 AM
Re: Surplus 308 MEN, and DAG are both good headstamps. Accuracy is almost on par with the Aussie that is no longer available. Hopefully the lastest batch that is coming in won't be corroded like the last one.

dimitri | 02-20-2010 09:54 AM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Squais (Post 2189524) http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...dir=18|830|848 http://www.wideners.com/images/fulls/Image1569.jpg
From the link you provided, they state that ammo has a plated steel jacket - I don't believe its the same run. The Midway/AIM deal has a cupronickel jacket.

King_Squais | 02-20-2010 08:55 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by MISRy (Post 2189957) Holy Gonzo Batman! I know I've been out of the loop for a while, I've been bench resting and expect ammo pricing to reflect my specs. But Holy Crap! I swear, the last I paid for a battlepack was $39.95. And I *know* I rotated stock 2 years ago during the FA shoot.
The worst kind of inflation is ammo inflation. :bear_angry:

CyberGold | 02-21-2010 09:48 PM
Re: Surplus 308 I know what you mean, the last battlepack I bought was $32 and I thought it was high at the time since the previous ones were $26-$28 for 200 Hirtenberg. I ought to open one up to see if it is corroded from the cardboard boxes. The stuff in the picture looks like bulk packed delinked MG ammo which will corrode over time due to the different metals touching. I don't think I have ever seen boxed ammo corroded like that. $90 is .45 a round, not bad for these days but still hard to swallow.

BigJosh | 02-27-2010 12:57 AM
Re: Surplus 308 Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 2189999) You're wrong. :biggrin: "Eric/Marty/the ammoman" is the worst sort of scum. There's a reason he, as a paid sponsor, has been kicked off every firearms forum on the net. Do a search for ammoman fraud.:thumpdown
I keep hearing this and yet out of my 20+ orders (and not small orders mind you) I have never had a single problem. Maybe I'm just lucky but thats my personal experience with the man/company.

eat_beef | 02-27-2010 01:52 PM
Re: Surplus 308 I have a good friend who is in an aduterous relationship with another man's wife. He can't see why I would be offended. As far as I'm concerned, if he'll go after one man's wife, he'll go after mine. Same thing with ammoshyster robbing folks. He never got me, but if he'll get ANYONE, I won't do business with him. It's called a matter of principle.

AurumAg | 02-27-2010 02:22 PM
Re: Surplus 308 Back to Topic: I obtained a few thousand rounds of this German surplus ammo back in 2008, and it appears to be oxidation rather than corrosion. It shoots fine in my M1A, and is comparable to the Portuguese milsurp .308 About 10% of the rounds needed to be segregated and tumbled, but I would not pay more than .40 each if this is the same batch of ammo. Vinegar will reverse copper oxidation, but I don't know what effect soaking it might have on loaded ammo.

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