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Little Ant | 04-06-2008 05:31 PM
How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Being new to firearms I am stocking up on ammo each payday buying what I can. I have been trying to figure how much I should try to aim for to have on stock when SHTF. Hard to figure depending on different scenarios. I would rather have plenty in case it becomes more difficult to obtain and yet I've heard conflicting info on how long ammo can be stored for. I have a Makarov and a Sigma 9mm. I suppose if I need I could always use any extra ammo for barter in a SHTF scenario. Any advise greatly appreciated.

vacuum | 04-06-2008 05:33 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? I think ammo might be more valuable than gold.

Dusty | 04-06-2008 05:39 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? say you buy x-ammo.. x=total amount.. if the supplys dry up.. (hate to run spell check..) what will you do..? You have my web name..look into what i have said ,,in other posts.. ,,!!! think... wil not repeat..what i have said earlyer.. (sp) D.:smokin:

wallew | 04-06-2008 05:48 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Little Ant, Approximately 500 rounds per revolver. 1000 rounds per semi-auto pistol or bolt action rifle. 2000 rounds per semi-auto main battle rifle. More is better than less. LESS IS BETTER THAN NONE. You do not mention rifle calibers. I suggest either a shotgun or inexpensive bolt action rifle and ammo to feed it. How long will ammo keep? I've fired ammo that appears to have been properly stored for AT LEAST fifty years. It worked great. I've seen ammo loaded less than five years ago, IMPROPERLY STORED, not work worth a diddly. You've got short distance covered (25 feet or less). You still need to cover intermediate ranges (out to 200 yards) and long ranges (past 200 yards). Hope that helps.

C4talyst | 04-06-2008 05:49 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? I'm buying ammo more as an investment now than anything else...lol. Ammo prices just keep going up.

elroy | 04-06-2008 05:56 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Properly stored modern ammo will last decades. Best to store it in military ammo cans with good gaskets and store it in a cool dry place. I like to throw in a packet of moisture absorbant with it also. The amounts that Wallew posted seem good to me.

bsdetector | 04-06-2008 06:14 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1049050) Little Ant, Approximately 500 rounds per revolver. 1000 rounds per semi-auto pistol or bolt action rifle. 2000 rounds per semi-auto main battle rifle.
and 10,000 for your 22.

90%RealMoney | 04-06-2008 06:31 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? The more the better. I don't think you can have TOO much ammo on hand. If nothing else, you can use it to trade for other items. Plus, it just keeps going up in price, so why not. Promethius buys a brick of .22 every time he goes to Wally World. I think that's a GREAT idea!

J.D.Rockinfeller | 04-06-2008 09:26 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? however much you can CARRY for a three day hike....thats about how far a starving man can walk on an empty stomach. FORGET trying to stay in one spot like your house for too long....when the food runs out,the starving hordes will storm your place ....get out of dodge.

buff01 | 04-06-2008 09:33 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? I am no expert, but I think a good bit of advice is to share ammo between guns if you can. i.e. pick one rifle caliber and one pistol caliber and stick with them. You'll have to store a lot less ammo. My personal choices are 9mm and 7.62x39 russian. If you have 1000 of each, you should be fine although more is better if you can do it.

Dusty | 04-06-2008 09:58 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? ammo. you can never get enough.. look in to my posts..] better to have a rifle.. ]that you can reload for If you can not reload.and the supply lines crash.. what will you do.?????????????????????????????? long and drawn out shit hit the fan stuff.. and supplys are low..??>?\ they that can reload their brass;; may win..(?)http://goldismoney.info/forums/images/smilies/no_ma.gif :no_ma: You may have 1k ammo..been ther done that..:no_ma::no_ma: in a fire fight,, 1k rounds.. is shit.. after that.??? In truth.. It depends on who has the bigger and best line of supply. You can make a statement ,ruby ridge..etc, HATE SAYING THIS...if you are in this country,,,usa.. they wil flame yu ... I have foughtt for this country,, will do again.but i do no agree.. the direction they are going. Bush ,the one in power.l I think will go down. and remembered in history.. as the worst as this country has ever seen.. (pay attn. who ever takes his place..) it happened be for (new prez for gives old one, forgiveness) hope not....bush..and his vice prezz ,,both need to go to jail.. will not happen.. cheney(sp) Quot and un Quote..((so)) both need to go to jail.... won,t happen, there will a pardon given,,:sarc: sucks ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,don.t it.................. ask me what i think abt .. Dusty...:sarc: may be off thread.. sorry...:D

Renegade | 04-06-2008 10:16 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? I think I only need enough ammo to get more guns, that come cheap , with ammo,,,,,,,,,, Renegade

bsdetector | 04-06-2008 11:42 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 1049478) I think I only need enough ammo to get more guns, that come cheap , with ammo,,,,,,,,,, Renegade
This reminds me of a guy that told me he only needed his guns because he would use them to get everything else he would need. I told him he has an estimated life span of about 1 month after SHTF.

Dusty | 04-06-2008 11:51 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by bsdetector (Post 1049621) This reminds me of a guy that told me he only needed his guns because he would use them to get everything else he would need. I told him he has an estimated life span of about 1 month after SHTF.
in this part of the country,,,bunch ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,less:smokin: d.o.a.. D.

Baldwin | 04-07-2008 12:14 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Have enough guns and ammo to outfit 6-12 other people. Bolt rifles, AK's etc...with several thousand rounds each. When the fedstapo come for you, have enough to make Fallujah look like Chucky Cheese!:wink:

Dusty | 04-07-2008 12:32 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldwin (Post 1049655) Have enough guns and ammo to outfit 6-12 other people. Bolt rifles, AK's etc...with several thousand rounds each. When the fedstapo come for you, have enough to make Fallujah look like Chucky Cheese!:wink:
cool..can you reload..??? think not... think abt it....... Dusty

Dusty | 04-07-2008 12:34 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldwin (Post 1049655) Have enough guns and ammo to outfit 6-12 other people. Bolt rifles, AK's etc...with several thousand rounds each. When the fedstapo come for you, have enough to make Fallujah look like Chucky Cheese!:wink:
by the way ,HI CUZZ..HA,

BellevueBully | 04-07-2008 08:56 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? from another post Rough guestimate..... 1 year = 6 turkeys, 3 deer, 50 misc. critters = 53 .22cal long and 6 shotgun. We'll also add 6 shotgun shells and 25 .22cal for predators/pests. Thats a subtotal of 73 .22cal longs and 12 shotgun shells. Multiply by 35 years = 2555 .22 cal 420 shotgun shells Multiply by bad judgment(error) factor of .5= 3832.5 (.22cal) 630 (shotgun) Estimated cost $450.00 Short answer......not much. And this is for complete sustinance. If I have to start playing commando, I will go find a place that I don't. If I can't do that it is already too late I'm afraid. Just MO cheers, Bb

Big_Rob | 04-07-2008 09:59 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? As much as you can store.

Prometheus | 04-07-2008 10:14 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1049050) How long will ammo keep? I've fired ammo that appears to have been properly stored for AT LEAST fifty years. It worked great. I've seen ammo loaded less than five years ago, IMPROPERLY STORED, not work worth a diddly.
FWIW Some ammo takes to poor storage better than others. Shotshells and .22lr needs to be stored in an air tight container. It's a lot easier for air to penetrate the shell/casing and break down the powder. Most milsurp ammo is sealed with a lacquer at the primer and bullet, which is why the old 1940's 8mm that was exposed to the air for 60+ years still functions. I put everything in 50 or 30 cal ammo cans. In there they'll be viable rounds for my grandchildren to use.

Prometheus | 04-07-2008 10:16 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1049114) The more the better. I don't think you can have TOO much ammo on hand. If nothing else, you can use it to trade for other items. Plus, it just keeps going up in price, so why not. Promethius buys a brick of .22 every time he goes to Wally World. I think that's a GREAT idea!
Yes I do :wink: Actually the past several trips I've been getting two of the federal bulk packs.. it's still 2 bucks cheaper per pack than remington and winchester (I don't like winchester .22lr at all, it's crap).

Twisted Avatar | 04-07-2008 10:46 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by C4talyst (Post 1049054) I'm buying ammo more as an investment now than anything else...lol. Ammo prices just keep going up.
You laugh.....but that is the honest truth ......I tell people the only thing that will be more valuable that gold and silver ...will be BRASS AND LEAD!! With the hyperinfaltion and assualt on our rights to protect ourselves ammo prices across the board are gonna skyrocket 22-66% THIS YEAR. And this is BEFORE they ram the microstamping bill down our throats It the coming years I can see the day when 2 high cap mags and 4 boxes of hollowpoint ammo WILL BE TRADED FOR ACRES OF PRIME LAND. That is how valuable this stuff will become ...... seriously. Make sure you get ammo cans and picking up a box a week is the best strategy over the long run .....It you commit to this plan you will be amazed at how much you when the time comes when you cant find it ...you will be heads and shoulders above the rest. T

Mumwaldee | 04-07-2008 11:36 AM
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90%RealMoney | 04-07-2008 12:01 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 1050260) The simple answer is: The more the better, but at a minimum of 1k premium loads per weapon. I figure at this point, you will be able to sell for profit later anything that you buy today. My stash is purely for zombie defense and in case FEMA/UN/BATFE go out of control. After 1000 rounds...I'll either be dead...or there will be battlefield pickups available. I don't kid myself about living off the land...if everyone in your state is hungry and only 10% of them decide to go out hunting...probably your "managed" herds will be gone in a week or two. There will food raider gangs that will go from house to house...then they'll go from farm to farm. Don't dig in too deep as someone already said...if they try to burn you out of your house in the middle of the night you may have to fly and leave your 20k ammo stash behind. Unless of course you have enough people to stand watch/patrol and night vision capability and long distance sniper training. :D
I guess another factor is your age, and whether you are willing to get up and leave if the time comes. I'm not old by any means,but unless someone I know has a retreat in a better location, I will be making my stand right here. My Buddy Irish Gold used to state that on a regular basis. I'll be 50 in three years, so I may be 60 if and when TSHTF. By then I'm sure I'm gonna be pretty set with where I am and things. I'll turn my place into another Waco before I give it up to anyone! And I guarantee I'll take out 3 or 4 or more of them before they get me. I think that's the attitude you have to have.

TomD | 04-07-2008 12:54 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? I'll bet that if things really go south, a brick of .22 rimfire would be worth an oz of gold.

platinumdude | 04-08-2008 12:25 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? 9mm luger doesn't have to be airtight for storage?

jrog100 | 04-08-2008 11:03 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by BellevueBully (Post 1050052) from another post Rough guestimate..... 1 year = 6 turkeys, 3 deer, 50 misc. critters = 53 .22cal long and 6 shotgun. We'll also add 6 shotgun shells and 25 .22cal for predators/pests. Thats a subtotal of 73 .22cal longs and 12 shotgun shells. Multiply by 35 years = 2555 .22 cal 420 shotgun shells Multiply by bad judgment(error) factor of .5= 3832.5 (.22cal) 630 (shotgun) Estimated cost $450.00 Short answer......not much. And this is for complete sustinance. If I have to start playing commando, I will go find a place that I don't. If I can't do that it is already too late I'm afraid. Just MO cheers, Bb
I don't imagins that you'll be eating deer and turkey's during a SHTF scenerio. Long Pork will probably be the order of the day so you'll need more than a .22:s9:

mtnman | 04-08-2008 11:29 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? If you have to ask you don�t have enough! Another thing, If the concrete floor is not cracking under the weight you don�t have enough! It ain't goning to get any cheaper! Buy NOW!

90%RealMoney | 04-08-2008 11:46 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? The good news for us all, is that the most important type of ammo, is also the cheapest. Everyone should have a .22 rifle. I think loading up on .22 is something we all should do. It's a good bartering item, good for small edible critters, and with a nice high capacity magazine, a .22 can be extremely lethal. Also, a nice cheap round for regular marksmanship practice. A .22 head shot can really ruin someones day!

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 04-08-2008 02:57 PM
YUP! Quote:
Originally Posted by 90%RealMoney (Post 1050300) I guess another factor is your age, and whether you are willing to get up and leave if the time comes. I'm not old by any means,but unless someone I know has a retreat in a better location, I will be making my stand right here. My Buddy Irish Gold used to state that on a regular basis. I'll be 50 in three years, so I may be 60 if and when TSHTF. By then I'm sure I'm gonna be pretty set with where I am and things. I'll turn my place into another Waco before I give it up to anyone! And I guarantee I'll take out 3 or 4 or more of them before they get me. I think that's the attitude you have to have.
Good post. I share your outlook completely.

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Mumwaldee | 04-08-2008 03:19 PM
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vacuum | 04-08-2008 08:41 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? I was thinking about this last night. I hear a lot of people say that you only need a few hundred rounds because by that time you will either have the other person's gun or you will be dead. However, I think this is flawed because most people either won't have any guns (they'll have bats and knives) or will only have a few bullets. You will never find a "cache" of ammo WTSHTF. Besides what you already have, you will probably only find stray bullets in small amounts.

90%RealMoney | 04-08-2008 10:15 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? You're going to need a weapon, and thousands of rounds of ammo, for each of your Family members, Friends who come crawling to your door, with their tail between their legs. You can only take in so many, but you better be ready for them to have nothing to contribute. I know people who are used to taking extremely long showers, wasting water, etc. Can you imagine how much fun that is going to be?

bsdetector | 04-08-2008 11:20 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Don't forget several pounds of powder and several yards of cannon fuse. Everything else is just plumbing parts ....

BellevueBully | 04-09-2008 12:35 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1052072) I don't imagins that you'll be eating deer and turkey's during a SHTF scenerio. Long Pork will probably be the order of the day so you'll need more than a .22:s9:
Deer and turkey is exactly what I'll be eating during a shtf scenario. What the hell is long pork? I'll be eating the exact same way as I'm eating now. Very little differece.

Fullpower | 04-09-2008 12:44 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? you dont ever want to know what long pork taste like.

Mumwaldee | 04-09-2008 11:33 AM
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bl96S5eu | 04-09-2008 12:04 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? With the way ammo prices have been going up I've instead gone to practicing distance throwing with cheap guns such as the Sigma (don't take offense I own one as well) and using them as blunt force objects in hand-to-hand.

mtnman | 04-09-2008 12:06 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by BellevueBully (Post 1053293) Deer and turkey is exactly what I'll be eating during a shtf scenario. What the hell is long pork? I'll be eating the exact same way as I'm eating now. Very little differece.
Game will be hunted out in a matter of weeks. Rats and birds a few week later. Long Pork is a Polynesian slang for the meat of a human.

Twisted Avatar | 04-09-2008 12:21 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1053812) Game will be hunted out in a matter of weeks. Rats and birds a few week later. Long Pork is a Polynesian slang for the meat of a human.
Wow.......... Good to know that one MM......much appreciated on the future lingo T

BellevueBully | 04-09-2008 08:16 PM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 1053774) I don't know what area you live in, but in Tennessee there are something like 6 million folks...give or take. And the deer herd has been "managed" to around 1 million animals give or take. How long do you think these resources will last in abundance? *make that 6 million, sure as hell seems like 16. oops
That is a very ethnocentric view. The whole world does not reside within the confines of the US border. Sorry about your luck. People that live in high population centres are gonna be SOL.

Mumwaldee | 04-09-2008 11:55 PM
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BellevueBully | 04-10-2008 12:05 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 1054913) I thought that was what I said. :rolleyes_m:
I'm sorry. I thought you were implying that everyone will have to deal with high competition for game. My bad.

money matters | 04-10-2008 03:50 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? The BellevueBully said this at the end of his post on page 1: "... If I have to start playing commando, I will go find a place that I don't. If I can't do that it is already too late I'm afraid." You are a wise person, Bully. Probably not going to be a whole lot of shooting going on in my neck of the woods. Nice to have a good selection of firearms for varied uses, same with a selection of ammunition. The ignoramus' want to play Rambo. Macho bullshit born of stupidity. They got their AK47, bullet proof vest and another 25lbs of ammunition; (also got The Steely Dan T-shirt! Their outrageous). 40lbs of their bugout kit devoted to Search & Destroy; what a fantasy? The most widely prescribed medication in America (10 yrs ago) was Prozac. The #s go up each year. There is great disconnect with reality. Guys live the suburban lifestyle and then plan to get outa Dodge with the kitchen sink once the baloon goes up. Better just knock back a few more Prozac, cause that ain't happening! Really need to live somewhere out of the line of fire. Need to be there now. Guy on another thread figures he has another 10yrs before TSHTF. If it happens tonite, and your Bug-Out Route is locked down by the time you wake up; where you gonna be? That's correct; right in the lumber yard....

BellevueBully | 04-10-2008 05:52 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 1055090) The BellevueBully said this at the end of his post on page 1: "... If I have to start playing commando, I will go find a place that I don't. If I can't do that it is already too late I'm afraid." You are a wise person, Bully. Probably not going to be a whole lot of shooting going on in my neck of the woods. Nice to have a good selection of firearms for varied uses, same with a selection of ammunition. The ignoramus' want to play Rambo. Macho bullshit born of stupidity. They got their AK47, bullet proof vest and another 25lbs of ammunition; (also got The Steely Dan T-shirt! Their outrageous). 40lbs of their bugout kit devoted to Search & Destroy; what a fantasy? The most widely prescribed medication in America (10 yrs ago) was Prozac. The #s go up each year. There is great disconnect with reality. Guys live the suburban lifestyle and then plan to get outa Dodge with the kitchen sink once the baloon goes up. Better just knock back a few more Prozac, cause that ain't happening! Really need to live somewhere out of the line of fire. Need to be there now. Guy on another thread figures he has another 10yrs before TSHTF. If it happens tonite, and your Bug-Out Route is locked down by the time you wake up; where you gonna be? That's correct; right in the lumber yard....
I don't really get it either. I mean, dealing with the odd looter is one thing, but thinking your gonna hold the fort against shocktroopers......ya right, good luck. Don't get me wrong. I'd go down fighting too, but like the Great One said.....don't be where the puck is, be where it is going. I've mentioned in other threads, if you really have convictions that tsightf, and you are in a vulnerable location and you know it, gtf out. Make a move. Oh, for those who think they can fight the government crime syndicate, remember Waco. You'll be asphixiating before you get one round out of your AK.

Tn...Andy | 04-10-2008 06:54 AM
Re: How much ammo for SHTF prepping? Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1053812) Game will be hunted out in a matter of weeks. Rats and birds a few week later. Long Pork is a Polynesian slang for the meat of a human.
Quite true if you live anywhere in the lower 48. The last depression, it took the deer 30 years to recover. I have a small herd of 15-20 hanging around here, that if the balloon were to go up today, I'd put in canning jars starting tomorrow. In fact, my dogs aren't waiting.....they deposited this on the deck yesterday: http://www.digistash.com/data/026a39...1_p122104.jpeg

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