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Satyr | 06-22-2009 08:39 PM
Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... I still had to buy one of these :wink:. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=453928 Read the specs.

MrCapitalism | 06-22-2009 09:18 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Yeah right... $100 for a Class 3 lower? It's not that I think you're lying, I'm just that surprised.

Iptuous | 06-22-2009 09:58 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... hogwash!... what's the story there?

Satyr | 06-22-2009 10:40 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Actually, a friend at work spoke with a rep and asked what the deal was with these. She told him that there is a loophole that makes it legal to purchase these, but you end up in deep sh!t if you are caught actually using one to modify your H&K without submitting the proper paperwork.

Iptuous | 06-22-2009 10:44 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... honeypot. beware. same as the 'pre-86' ar15 DIAS that's sold in shotgun news.... don't go there.... i can almost guarantee it's ATF...

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot | 06-22-2009 11:21 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Not really a big deal. HK kits from full auto rifles were all over the place a short while ago. Just assemble to a semi auto receiver and no worries. :RockOn:

desertjack | 06-23-2009 01:30 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (Post 1782214) Not really a big deal. HK kits from full auto rifles were all over the place a short while ago. Just assemble to a semi auto receiver and no worries. :RockOn:
yep, what he said.

oz in sc | 06-23-2009 08:48 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... On a HK G3,which is considered the firearm,the upper or the lower receiver? You can(or could) buy full auto rifle kits minus everything BUT the receiver for various SMG's and such....building one is a different matter. My Izzy HB FAL has three position selector,the third of course doesn't do anything....it is a semi-auto. I wonder what the fascination is with full auto,to me it would be simply a lot of ammo being used up fast.

Iptuous | 06-23-2009 09:12 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1782567) On a HK G3,which is considered the firearm,the upper or the lower receiver?
I was under the impression that all HK rifles/subguns had the trigger pack as the registered component, but i guess there are registered reciever ones, too... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1782567) I wonder what the fascination is with full auto,to me it would be simply a lot of ammo being used up fast.
i take it you have you never shot one? it directly stimulates pleasure centers of the brain inaccessible otherwise.... :ok: you're in SC? you should definitely take a trip to Knob Creek machine gun shoot some time. it's a blast and your getting to see the action while letting other fat cats burn through thousands of rounds. it's a hoot when the whole line is roaring with fire and over the din, you hear the evil buzz of a minigun singing! also the night shoot is worth seeing because they fill 50gallon drums with fuel such that it makes a mushroom cloud about 30ft tall when they go up from the APIT rounds fired at them.... and they fill old junker cars and boats with tannerite and such.... it's excellent.

oz in sc | 06-23-2009 09:47 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... I am probably wrong in the HK...have little knowledge of them beyond they have weird cocking handles and require a lot of work if/when something goes wrong. I also don't see the fascination with handguns....I am an EBR sort of guy.:biggrin:

Willie Peter | 06-23-2009 10:00 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Having shot a full-auto, select fire HK-91, they are a thrill, but almost uncontrollable, they climb up and to the right on full auto, I think the only practical application for a 91 on full auto would be if there are lot's of people coming at you, ie; a human wave assault, placed shots on semi-auto would be much more effective

Iptuous | 06-23-2009 10:00 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 1782632) I also don't see the fascination with handguns....I am an EBR sort of guy.:biggrin:
EBR...... evil black rifle? not satisfactorily evil unless it can spit death in a continuous stream from a beta c mag!....

oz in sc | 06-23-2009 10:04 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... EBR= Evil Black Rifle. Full auto has it's place in a few instances I guess. I feel you can pull the trigger pretty fast on a semi-auto if you REALLY need to.:wink: I think my little shorty AR would melt if I ran a beta mag through it....:biggrin:

CrufflerJJ | 06-23-2009 10:07 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Satyr (Post 1782141) Actually, a friend at work spoke with a rep and asked what the deal was with these. She told him that there is a loophole that makes it legal to purchase these, but you end up in deep sh!t if you are caught actually using one to modify your H&K without submitting the proper paperwork.
If these lowers contain the full auto sear/disconnector, you CANNOT legally "submit paperwork" to permit its use to convert a semiauto HK weapon. It would only be allowed if you're a licensed Class II manufacturer. Even in that case, the full auto weapon made by such a conversion would not be legal for us lowly scum civilians to own (since it would not have been registered prior to 1986). Possession of full auto parts, combined with possession of a semi-auto weapon capable of accepting the full auto parts (even if they are not assembled together into a single unit), can land you in a federal cell with Bubba for 10 years. Not safe - run away, run away!

Iptuous | 06-23-2009 10:11 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Amen CJJ! im tellin' you, it's an ATF honeypot....

Bx3 | 06-23-2009 05:49 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... These are legal to own. They have been available for years and years. End of story. The only hitch is that the trigger pack won't fit into a "clipped and pinned" pistol gip/lower which are the only ones that will fit a semi receiver. You can use some of the parts for spares but you will be wasting your money if you think you can just slip that trigger pack into a 91. Also, the bolt carriers in the semi/civilian 91s are not slotted for full auto.

oz in sc | 06-23-2009 06:02 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... You can buy a barrel for an AR15 that is less than legal length....it isn't illegal to own,it IS illegal to install it without the proper paperwork. You can buy Sten SMG kits minus the receiver...which IF you had the ability isn't too difficult to make....but that would be illegal.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 06-23-2009 06:12 PM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Honey-Pot: Setting up a trap which is too good to be true to catch would-be rule-breakers, red-handed.

tulsamal | 06-24-2009 09:17 AM
Re: Not that I own an H&K G3 but, ..... Quote:
You can buy a barrel for an AR15 that is less than legal length....it isn't illegal to own,it IS illegal to install it without the proper paperwork.
In the case of the AR, you can own an AR rifle and all the uppers you want that have barrels that are "too short" installed on them. But you need to also own an AR pistol! So there is a VERY legal and non-NFA use for all those short AR barrels. Just don't "forget" one day and install a short barrel on your AR rifle lower. Unless it is a Jericho scenario and you don't need to worry about central government authority anymore! Gregg

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