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77shovelhead | 01-02-2010 08:03 PM
Stevens shotgun repair I inherited, about 6 years ago, a Stevens model 94 series N single shot 12 gauge. It has a couple of problems that need to be fixed. The gun is not worth much so I want to repair it myself. The knurled portion of the hammer is broken off and I need to weld it back on or replace it. Either way I need to take the gun apart. The barrel has been cut and I want to replace it. What I'm looking for is a breakdown on the S/N, so that I know what I have, and an exploded diagram, so that I can do a complete breakdown and order parts. I did search some on the net and only found diagrams for the series P. Does anyone here have any information on this shotgun? Thanks in advance.

eat_beef | 01-02-2010 08:37 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Did you try Numrich? www.e-gunparts.com Replacing the hammer should be cheap, but the bbl will cost more than it's worth.

77shovelhead | 01-02-2010 09:05 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 2105661) Did you try Numrich? www.e-gunparts.com Replacing the hammer should be cheap, but the bbl will cost more than it's worth.
I tried the link and no 94 series N is listed. It might be similar to one of the others but I'm not sure. My experience has been that the wrong part will be ordered if the proper model and series is not listed. Worst case is I weld the hammer and add 1/2" to the barrel.

____hoot____ | 01-02-2010 10:25 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by 77shovelhead (Post 2105710) I tried the link and no 94 series N is listed. It might be similar to one of the others but I'm not sure. My experience has been that the wrong part will be ordered if the proper model and series is not listed. Worst case is I weld the hammer and add 1/2" to the barrel.
that's what I would do to a "beater" like this, gunsmiths might have a "polychoke" from the 50s-60s sitting around that you could get for real cheap weld on and fix that barrel problem with 3 more inches

77shovelhead | 01-02-2010 11:13 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair One thing I know about barrel lengths is that, a barrel that is shorter than "the law allows" is not good for me when and if "the law" sees it. And this particular barrel fits that catagory. Something else that I need/want to find out is what, if anything, I could do to this barrel to make it longer. If I can tack weld a choke on it or weld a short piece of pipe to the end of it, and it be legal, I would rather do that than buy a $20.00-$70.00 barrel. I am willing to read up on the legal way to add length to a barrel, but I don't know where to start looking for such information. I have read more about firearm laws than I can remember, but I don't remember anything about adding length to a barrel.

____hoot____ | 01-03-2010 10:21 AM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by 77shovelhead (Post 2105889) One thing I know about barrel lengths is that, a barrel that is shorter than "the law allows" is not good for me when and if "the law" sees it. And this particular barrel fits that catagory. Something else that I need/want to find out is what, if anything, I could do to this barrel to make it longer. If I can tack weld a choke on it or weld a short piece of pipe to the end of it, and it be legal, I would rather do that than buy a $20.00-$70.00 barrel. I am willing to read up on the legal way to add length to a barrel, but I don't know where to start looking for such information. I have read more about firearm laws than I can remember, but I don't remember anything about adding length to a barrel.
Just weld it on, maybe over a "slug" so that it is on straight. If anyone ever asks, say that you just repaired a barrel that had exploded or bulged.

ruprick | 01-03-2010 10:32 AM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 2106325) Just weld it on, maybe over a "slug" so that it is on straight. If anyone ever asks, say that you just repaired a barrel that had exploded or bulged.
Exactly - as long as the repair is permanent. You might be able to find any old barrel that had a screw in choke system and use that barrel end are an extension...then you would have a variable choke system. Weld a spur on the hammer, cut, fit, file to finish.....sounds like a fun little project. If you can't/don't TIG weld....just do all the metal fitting and hire that part of the work out...it would be cheap. Otherwise - comb www.gunbroker.com for a similar/same model gun as a parts doner to your old family gun.....easiest way to make sure you have all matching parts.

Ag_man | 01-03-2010 11:22 AM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Am I the only one who thinks that welding on a shotgun barrel is risky? I could see welding on the hammer, but not the barrel.

eat_beef | 01-03-2010 03:51 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Are you sure the bbl is short? Some folks fail to measure the chamber. BATF regs (unless they've changed them recently) say the bbl length is calculated by dropping a rod down the bore until it hits the breechface, and measuring to the muzzle. JMO, DYODD, I'm no lawyer, this is not legal advice, yada yada. I wouldn't be shooting any shotgun with a bbl extension welded on, unless it was professionally done, and I mean by a specialist, not some moron with a 'gunsmith' sign. A breakdown 12ga is worth 50-100 bucks in my neck of the woods, so it's almost always cheaper to replace than to fix it, but if it's an heirloom, that's a different story. Then again, if you change the bbl, you just about have a different arm anyway, as all that's left is the stock and lock.

77shovelhead | 01-03-2010 07:00 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 2106404) Am I the only one who thinks that welding on a shotgun barrel is risky? I could see welding on the hammer, but not the barrel.
I doubt that you are the only one. I think it's risky too. That's why I am picking the brains here. The point is, this is just a shotgun sitting around without a purpose. I want do something with it instead of making scrap iron. Besides what do I have to lose, as long as it makes the barrel less trouble with the man? As a plus, I get out in the garage and the wife leaves me alone.:yippee: I was thinking I would add 1" to the barrel because the OAL is only 17-5/8", which is too short. My understanding is that 18" is the min. So, if I take a piece of pipe, that will just slip over the outside of the barrel and is 1-1/2" long, then slip it on about 1/2" and tack weld it, would there be a problem with it? This would make the barrel about 18-5/8" long but the inside dia of the last 1" would be .875" instead of .725". I have a lathe that I could cut an inside shoulder on the end that slips on and make the inside dia the same as the barrel but I don't think that would be needed. I also have a MIG welder that I could use or I could let my buddy TIG it. I still need to remove the hammer to weld the broken piece back on. Luckly I have the broken piece. Thanks for the replys so far. I know that no one here is trying to give legal advise, :ok:besides I would not take it from a web site. Just looking for other's experience, ideas and possable insight to regulations on adding to the barrel. Like I said earlier I found regulations on the min length, but found nothing on modifing to make it longer. I don't mind doing MODD, but I can't find the regulations and other info needed pertaining to adding length to a barrel.

Ag_man | 01-03-2010 08:53 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair I guess that if you're only tack welding the extension on, instead of running a full bead of weld around it, there's much less of a chance of cracking in the HAZ.

77shovelhead | 01-03-2010 09:20 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 2107082) I guess that if you're only tack welding the extension on, instead of running a full bead of weld around it, there's much less of a chance of cracking in the HAZ.
What is HAZ?

Ag_man | 01-03-2010 09:25 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by 77shovelhead (Post 2107119) What is HAZ?
Sorry for the jargon; Heat Affected Zone. This area would show the metallurgical changes from the weld and the parent material.

hoarder | 01-03-2010 09:34 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair You could drill some holes on one side of the extension and call it a muzzle brake! LOL.

Ag_man | 01-03-2010 09:37 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Quote:
Originally Posted by 77shovelhead (Post 2107119) What is HAZ?
Sorry for the jargon; Heat Affected Zone. This area would show the metallurgical changes from the weld and the parent material.

77shovelhead | 01-03-2010 09:38 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Thanks. I was thinking there might be a problem with it cracking after a few rounds go thru, but I won't be using this gun much. I still haven't found any laws/rules/regulation on adding length to the barrel so I will take my chances with it. If adding length to a barrel is the worst I go to prison for I've been a good boy. Thanks agian to all.

hoarder | 01-03-2010 09:52 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Don't ever admit to having done the work yourself because you will at the same time be admitting you possessed a short barreled shotgun before welding the extension on. JMO.

77shovelhead | 01-03-2010 10:12 PM
Re: Stevens shotgun repair Oppps. See what happens when I talk too much? Thanks for the replies everyone, but I decided to get rid of that nasty old short barrel before I hurt myself. I will buy one that has already been lenghtened.

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