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meatman | 02-25-2009 06:49 PM
NBC nightly news had a segment on Mexico tonight spent 90% on how all the guns Mexico's drug crime has is from the USA, straw buyers buying at gun shows for drug cartel. how tough the firearm laws in mexico it can't be them plus ATF saying how are laws are to easy both Mexico and American officials blamed it on our gun laws

honu5050 | 02-25-2009 06:54 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1593766) had a segment on Mexico tonight spent 90% on how all the guns Mexico's drug crime has is from the USA straw buyers buying at gun shows for drug cartel and how tough of firearm laws in mexico that it can't be them plus ATF saying how are laws are to easy both Mexico and American officials blamed it on our gun laws
ya dont git guns/arms/ammo without the ATF git it ????:yes:

EE_ | 02-25-2009 06:55 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1593766) had a segment on Mexico tonight spent 90% on how all the guns Mexico's drug crime has is from the USA straw buyers buying at gun shows for drug cartel and how tough of firearm laws in mexico that it can't be them plus ATF saying how are laws are to easy both Mexico and American officials blamed it on our gun laws
Who are they blaming for the 80% of Methamphetimine that comes into the US via Mexico?

nub | 02-25-2009 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1593778) Who are they blaming for the 80% of Methamphetimine that comes into the US via Mexico?
The CIA :banana:

meatman | 02-25-2009 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1593778) Who are they blaming for the 80% of Methamphetimine that comes into the US via Mexico?
Not one word about drugs all about the guns from the USA causing all the problems. and president of Mexico asking the USA to do something about their firearm problem.

meatman | 02-25-2009 07:01 PM
Re: NBC nightly news http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#29395594

Bx3 | 02-25-2009 07:03 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1584715) http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...15#post1584715 While there may be some specialized weapons (.50 cal) that are heading South, those 90% plus statistics of US weapons being used by the drug cartels are efn propaganda blsht! Oh there are masses of weapons being smuggled into Mexico on the Southern border, only problem is that it is Mexico's Southern border, not ours. I'd love to know where to get the fully automatic AKs, RPGs and hand grenades that the cartels are using. The last time I checked, my local WalMart was all out:sarc: This is nothing more but another lie to come after our LEGAL arms up here.:banghead:
I mentioned this before. This false arguement will be their treasonous battle cry. (I know, a liberal battle cry is an oxymoron).

latitude22 | 02-25-2009 07:07 PM
Re: NBC nightly news what a joke, i love how all of our gun laws operate on this myth that criminals somehow obtain the guns through legal channels. In this case a straw buyer legally buys the guns. You know what would happen if you bought enough guns to outfit a mexican drug cartel???? We're talking thousands, not hundreds of guns and while you might find a few straw buyers you aren't gonna find that many. I also love the fact that we somehow believe that criminals are willing to break every law BUT the gun law, we outlaw guns and suddenly the criminals will be without guns YEA OK.

Ag_man | 02-25-2009 07:17 PM
Re: NBC nightly news So, how does US gun laws account for the large number of Mexicans with missing heads? Must be our machete laws.

latitude22 | 02-25-2009 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 1593825) So, how does US gun laws account for the large number of Mexicans with missing heads? Must be our machete laws.
They are admittedly lax.

Doge | 02-25-2009 07:53 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Typical. Blame the guns and not the savage hordes using them for evil purposes.

Irons | 02-25-2009 08:08 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Cocaine and heroin and other drugs come and go out of mexico by the ton, so whats a few pallets of chinese AK's? Easy

latitude22 | 02-25-2009 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Irons (Post 1593908) Cocaine and heroin and other drugs come and go out of mexico by the ton, so whats a few pallets of chinese AK's? Easy
Yea good point, drugs are illegal in BOTH countries and that is what created the cartels in teh first place.

Workaholic | 02-25-2009 08:26 PM
Re: NBC nightly news The msm were trying to say if there were gun laws in America, the spic's wouldn't be able to buy guns. I say BS. Push your liberal agendas. Close the boarders and keep the mexis out of here and they wouldn't be able to get guns that easy

Doge | 02-25-2009 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1593940) Close the boarders and keep the mexis out of here and they wouldn't be able to get guns that easy
Exactly. But they don't ever truely want to solve any problems do they? Just create enough problems so the American people agree on the federal government stripping away more of our rights.

Atahualpa | 02-25-2009 09:03 PM
Re: NBC nightly news The propaganda is always opposite of reality, Mexico's biggest problem is an unarmed civilian population, this allows the drug cartels and the corrupt police and military to go unchecked. The civilians are terrorized and unable to stand up for themselves. If Mexican civilians were fully armed, the criminal elements would be fair game when perpetrating their terror, instead, Mexicans are huddled in their houses afraid to look at the narcotrafficantes or police when they dominate them at every level. I understand that Mexico is beginning to see vigilante justice emerging against the criminals...ambushes in the night. This is also happening in Guatemala, vigilante groups are assassinating the violent drug gang members...the drug gang members used to proudly tattoo their faces, necks and heads with their gang symbols, now they hide in fear of assassination. If the vigilantes see a tattooed face, they kill them, no questions asked. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=98593139

Workaholic | 02-25-2009 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1593968) Exactly. But they don't ever truely want to solve any problems do they? Just create enough problems so the American people agree on the federal government stripping away more of our rights.
Absolutly..agree 100 % I am frustrated as to why most people just don't get it:banghead:

bob681 | 02-25-2009 09:14 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Maybe Mexico should build a fence to keep the guns out.

Workaholic | 02-25-2009 09:20 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Quote:
Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1594011) The propaganda is always opposite of reality, Mexico's biggest problem is an unarmed civilian population, this allows the drug cartels and the corrupt police and military to go unchecked. The civilians are terrorized and unable to stand up for themselves. If Mexican civilians were fully armed, the criminal elements would be fair game when perpetrating their terror, instead, Mexicans are huddled in their houses afraid to look at the narcotrafficantes or police when they dominate them at every level. I understand that Mexico is beginning to see vigilante justice emerging against the criminals...ambushes in the night. This is also happening in Guatemala, vigilante groups are assassinating the violent drug gang members...the drug gang members used to proudly tattoo their faces, necks and heads with their gang symbols, now they hide in fear of assassination. If the vigilantes see a tattooed face, they kill them, no questions asked. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=98593139
Now, will the chicken shit queer liberals in So Cal pick up a Mini 14 and defend his boyfriend against the gangs that are already here? And more that will be comming? Or will he ball up into a fetal position and take in the :moon:

CAVU | 02-25-2009 09:28 PM
Re: NBC nightly news http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/m...08/mail-1.jpeg Nothing but communism

Atahualpa | 02-25-2009 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1594052) Now, will the chicken shit queer liberals in So Cal pick up a Mini 14 and defend his boyfriend against the gangs that are already here? And more that will be comming? Or will he ball up into a fetal position and take in the :moon:
I don't know about California, but in Texas, the drug gangs are not messing with armed gringos.

CyberGold | 02-25-2009 09:41 PM
Re: NBC nightly news I know that the AT&F have busted some Mexicants buying AR-15's at the Phoenix and Tucson gun shows - but they were Federal & State Mexicant Police. Most of the gun battles I hear about over on the other side involve full auto weapons - now just where are they coming up here and anonymously buying that sh*t off the street? I have heard of a gun shop here in the SW that used to sell cases and cases of 7.62x39 to little ol Mexicant ladies in their mini vans, but no guns. I doubt a fence would do much good when the border crossing guard is bought and paid for.

Workaholic | 02-25-2009 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1594094) I don't know about California, but in Texas, the drug gangs are not messing with armed gringos.
I pitty the fools that try and start sht in Texas. But I am also concerned for the citizens who will be jailed for protecting themselves and their country God Bless Texas

Atahualpa | 02-25-2009 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Markthebuilder (Post 1594115) But I am also concerned for the citizens who will be jailed for protecting themselves and their country God Bless Texas
I'm much less concerned about citizens in Texas getting prosecuted for self defense now a days since CHL and Castle Doctrine laws...before, it was another story...you always had to be paranoid about carrying a gun in your car because the law was very vague as to what constituted legal carrying of a weapon. It used to be all this baloney, like you had to be traveling outside your home county, or carrying a large amount of valuables in commerce, etc....in other words, it was up to the cops about what they wanted to do with you. Now, the law is clear and explicit...you can carry a concealed gun in your car everywhere without a permit, same in your office or business, and of course in your home...and nobody can sue you.

Workaholic | 02-25-2009 10:46 PM
Re: NBC nightly news The first thing that comes to mind for me is the boarder patrol guards, jailed for firing on illegals forgive me, the details have slipped my mind

Twisted Avatar | 02-25-2009 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1593785) President of Mexico asking the USA to do something about their firearm problem.
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ShortJohnSilver | 02-25-2009 11:36 PM
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Snake Plissken | 02-25-2009 11:46 PM
Re: NBC nightly news Those narco-terrorists will never smuggle in AKs and hand grenades in along with their tons of cocaine they bring into Mexico, so banning the sales of AKs and hand grenades in the states will solve all these problems with the violence associated with the narco-terrorists. Banning the sale of AKs and grenades in the states = problem solved.

End of Hope | 02-26-2009 12:44 AM
Re: NBC nightly news Quote:
Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1594011) The propaganda is always opposite of reality, Mexico's biggest problem is an unarmed civilian population, this allows the drug cartels and the corrupt police and military to go unchecked. The civilians are terrorized and unable to stand up for themselves. If Mexican civilians were fully armed, the criminal elements would be fair game when perpetrating their terror, instead, Mexicans are huddled in their houses afraid to look at the narcotrafficantes or police when they dominate them at every level. I understand that Mexico is beginning to see vigilante justice emerging against the criminals...ambushes in the night. This is also happening in Guatemala, vigilante groups are assassinating the violent drug gang members...the drug gang members used to proudly tattoo their faces, necks and heads with their gang symbols, now they hide in fear of assassination. If the vigilantes see a tattooed face, they kill them, no questions asked. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=98593139
Yes, many ordinary Mexicans are going after the "problems" even without the massive firepower ordinary Americans are, still, just sitting on.

End of Hope | 02-26-2009 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1594236) I'm much less concerned about citizens in Texas getting prosecuted for self defense now a days since CHL and Castle Doctrine laws...before, it was another story...you always had to be paranoid about carrying a gun in your car because the law was very vague as to what constituted legal carrying of a weapon. It used to be all this baloney, like you had to be traveling outside your home county, or carrying a large amount of valuables in commerce, etc....in other words, it was up to the cops about what they wanted to do with you. Now, the law is clear and explicit...you can carry a concealed gun in your car everywhere without a permit, same in your office or business, and of course in your home...and nobody can sue you.
California, surprisingly, has not banned carrying weapons in one's car provided it's in a "locked container." Now, of course, this poses a problem, albeit a minor one for someone with even rudimentary skills. You take this: http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/c...?$main-Medium$ And put this: http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20ameri...%201911-01.JPG Or this: http://www.gunshopfinder.com/smithan...n/model442.jpg Inside, along with this: http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...son-combat.jpg Or this: http://www.shop.proshooter-bg.com/im...nchi%20sp..jpg And you have "heat" at seconds notice. Not ideal, not constitutional, but far, far better than nothing. And yes, when you are facing "grave bodily harm or death," you can legally load it and use it. See the attached for details (mostly on legal open carry, but also covers related matters).

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oz in sc | 02-26-2009 09:46 AM
Re: NBC nightly news Remember,Obama and his hordes are lawyers and so twist the truth always. The firearms being used by the Mexican gangs ARE coming from the USA.... They are armed with automatic weapons that came from the Mexican government via the US government. Also there is a lot of other weapons coming across Mexico's southern border.

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