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flash91 | 11-02-2008 05:47 PM
Why I can't watch cops. Every so often I turn on the TV to see what popular culture has become. So last night I turn on "COPS" on fox network. I watch about 6 guys responding to a gun call. The burst in the house, taze the guy for being slow about raising his hands (oh didn't catch that on camera) drag him out. Turns out he had been shooting a BB gun earlier. So they arrest him for "obstruction" because he didn't raise his hands fast enough. Then they sit around talking to each other about how lucky he was not to get shot. WTF? It was a BB gun! He was not carrying it, nor discharging it when they showed up. Even if it had been a gun, where was the immediate threat? Do the police not see what this is doing to their reputation? I had to turn it off after that, I just couldn't sit still in my seat to watch any more of it.

madfranks | 11-02-2008 05:56 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. I saw an episode of "street patrol" (a cops ripoff) the other day, and it disgusted me as well. A scared wife called the cops because some gang bangers were threatening her husband and child, the husband pulls out a pistol to defend his family, the cops show up, the gang bangers run away, the cops yell at the husband to drop the gun and get on the ground, they arrest him for brandishing a firearm and take him to jail. The only bright side was the guy telling the camera that he would rather go to jail for defending his family than not pull the gun and watch the gang bangers have their way with his family. The cops congratulated eachother on a job well done. My wife and I were stunned after seeing that.

Stonewall | 11-02-2008 05:58 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Cops and criminals are both born from the same DNA.

Drumblebum | 11-02-2008 05:58 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1393012) Every so often I turn on the TV to see what popular culture has become. So last night I turn on "COPS" on fox network. I watch about 6 guys responding to a gun call. The burst in the house, taze the guy for being slow about raising his hands (oh didn't catch that on camera) drag him out. Turns out he had been shooting a BB gun earlier. So they arrest him for "obstruction" because he didn't raise his hands fast enough. Then they sit around talking to each other about how lucky he was not to get shot. WTF? It was a BB gun! He was not carrying it, nor discharging it when they showed up. Even if it had been a gun, where was the immediate threat? Do the police not see what this is doing to their reputation? I had to turn it off after that, I just couldn't sit still in my seat to watch any more of it.
Funny... I shoot my BB gun sometimes in my backyard, and I live in a residential neighborhood. Maybe I could get tazed on COPS!! I can't watch COPS any longer than I can watch Bush's ugly grill on TV. Or MSM news. I hate it all. Besides, doing any of that takes away from my GIM and/or drinking time. :bear_w00t:

Zusn | 11-02-2008 06:03 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Police these days are very high strung. I've seen what you're talking about too. The littlest thing sets them off. Police stop to question a man who appears to be walking funny. Cop 1: Sir, how much have you had to drink tonight? Suspect: Nothing. I'm just walking to my apartment from my car. Cop 1: You appear to be walking funny. Are you sure you haven't been drinking? Suspect: No sir. I was in a car accident yesterday and broke my... Cop 1: Let me see you drivers license Suspect: It's in my apartment, I just went to my car to ge... Cop 1: Lay down on the ground!! Suspect: My leg is in a cast, I ca... [Cop 1 judo throws suspect to the ground head first] Cop 1: I said lay down on the ground!!! Tazer: zap zap zap zap zap Suspect: Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! Cop 1: Stop resisting!!! Tazer: zap zap zap zap zap Suspect: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Cop 1: [on radio] Suspect is being combative, I need backup!! [Cop 2 puts knee on the back of the suspect's head and slowly transfers all of his weight onto it] [Cop 1 cuffs the suspect] Cop 1: Alright, stand up Suspect: My leg is in a cast, I ca......... Tazer: zap zap zap zap zap Cop 2: Stop resisting!!! Cop 1: Stop resisting!!! Tazer: zap zap zap zap zap [Suspect passes out from the pain and trauma. He's later pronounced dead. Cause of death officially reported as Unknown]

reviver | 11-02-2008 06:46 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall (Post 1393034) Cops and criminals are both born from the same DNA.
Noted. There is no up without a down. There is no left without a right. There is no in without an out. I could go on forever, but I believe you get the picture. Cops need criminals to justify their existence. They could not survive without them. This is why this method of peonage by our controllers is so pervasive. It creates roles that people are drawn into, create their life around, and creates a new paradigm for the masses. But close analysis of this paradigm reveals the divisions created among us, the curtain retracted to reveal the fraud of our honor. Oh, and opposites attract. Perhaps because they could not exist without each other.

TomD | 11-02-2008 07:58 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. I just can't stand to see the endless line of sad and mostly stupid people hauled away to jail for using drugs. What a tragedy on so many levels.

Portmanteau | 11-02-2008 08:15 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Zusn (Post 1393051) Police these days are very high strung. I've seen what you're talking about too. The littlest thing sets them off. Police stop to question a man who appears to be walking funny. Cop 1: Sir, how much have you had to drink tonight? Suspect: Nothing. I'm just walking to my apartment from my car. Cop 1: You appear to be walking funny. Are you sure you haven't been drinking? Suspect: No sir. I was in a car accident yesterday and broke my... Cop 1: Let me see you drivers license Suspect: It's in my apartment, I just went to my car to ge... Cop 1: Lay down on the ground!! Suspect: My leg is in a cast, I ca... [Cop 1 judo throws suspect to the ground head first]
(Scenario 1 interrupted...) Scenario 2: Dozens of neighborhood residents pour into the area, some with loaded firearms, others with Molotov cocktails. The pigs respond with gunfire, but the citizens force them back to their cars with their own gunfire. Two pigs screaming in flames from well-targeted Molotovs. A couple of citizens trained in medical science aid the injured citizen and carry him into his house. Cops refuse to return to neighborhood despite "lawlessness," since the last groups of pigs who shot and killed a Down's Syndrome kid across town last night paid with their lives under similar citizen response.

Cassius | 11-02-2008 08:19 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Then the government shuts down the water and electricity and 99.99% of the public becomes docile, pliable little lambs.

sirgonzo420 | 11-02-2008 08:35 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1393012) Every so often I turn on the TV to see what popular culture has become. So last night I turn on "COPS" on fox network. I watch about 6 guys responding to a gun call. The burst in the house, taze the guy for being slow about raising his hands (oh didn't catch that on camera) drag him out. Turns out he had been shooting a BB gun earlier. So they arrest him for "obstruction" because he didn't raise his hands fast enough. Then they sit around talking to each other about how lucky he was not to get shot. WTF? It was a BB gun! He was not carrying it, nor discharging it when they showed up. Even if it had been a gun, where was the immediate threat? Do the police not see what this is doing to their reputation? I had to turn it off after that, I just couldn't sit still in my seat to watch any more of it.
My wife and I watched that last night as well. I know exactly what you mean. We couldn't stand anymore of it either. I'd put on a hell of a show if I were ever on COPS.... but they would never air the episode...

Portmanteau | 11-02-2008 08:51 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 1393200) Then the government shuts down the water and electricity and 99.99% of the public becomes docile, pliable little lambs.
The froggy in water thingy. Do we boil to death slowly? Or do we "turn up the heat" so froggy hops out sooner?

mtnman | 11-02-2008 09:11 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 1393200) Then the government shuts down the water and electricity and 99.99% of the public becomes docile, pliable little lambs.
Squads of heavily armed Citizens attack and over run Water and Electric stations. Then lay siege to the police stations. Civil War 2 erupts.

morganchaser | 11-02-2008 11:17 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall (Post 1393034) Cops and criminals are both born from the same DNA.
No kidding. Where do people think criminals go when crime stops paying? They sign up for police academy!

Mill Man | 11-02-2008 11:19 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. I saw one the other day where the guy buys a dimebag of pot from a plain clothes cop infront of a house or duplex. As the guy is walking away back towards his car a cop built like a linebacker sprints full speed at the guy and dives straight at him from behind tackling him to the ground. Disgusting.

blueice | 11-03-2008 01:09 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Flash, you mean you never watched when they catch the crim...????

FreeMyLand | 11-03-2008 01:39 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1393031) I saw an episode of "street patrol" (a cops ripoff) the other day, and it disgusted me as well. A scared wife called the cops because some gang bangers were threatening her husband and child, the husband pulls out a pistol to defend his family, the cops show up, the gang bangers run away, the cops yell at the husband to drop the gun and get on the ground, they arrest him for brandishing a firearm and take him to jail. The only bright side was the guy telling the camera that he would rather go to jail for defending his family than not pull the gun and watch the gang bangers have their way with his family. The cops congratulated eachother on a job well done. My wife and I were stunned after seeing that.
Was this out in public on the street or on the families property? Not that it makes much of a difference as the guy did nothing wrong. In my mind, though, I wouldn't pull a weapon unless I was going to use it. If I feel threatened enough to display the weapon, it would only be a fraction of a second after it was 'brandished' that it would be fired in defense. I would love to see the video of that one. I just can't believe the agenda and expectations that they are pushing down our throats with scenes like these. I guess we're supposed to believe that it is a job well done. You would be amazed at how many good upstanding men are in prison right now for doing honorable, noble deeds like protecting their family and women from predators. The judacized talmudic legal system that we are forced to endure turns heroic upstanding men into criminals everyday. These same men would be praised by our ancestors for doing honorable and courageous deeds, but this is what happens when your culture and values are destroyed and overrun.

Willie Peter | 11-03-2008 06:15 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Anyone in the San Bernandino Co. area? Was about a year or so ago, had it on video, a SB cop shot a iraq war vet 3 times in the back after pulling the driver over for speeding or something, the vet was the passenger, I think it was a by-stander who was shooting the vid of the stop, it's pretty clear, the vet guy was on the ground (and he was attached to a security detail,maybe MP in iraq,but Active duty, so he knows the procedure full well) you here a cop say GET-UP, GET-UP,....the vet says "OK, I'm getting up now", with arms extended, as he starts to get up slowly, Bam,Bam,Bam..cop standing over him, shoots him in the back 3 times...afterward a statement releashed was "he made threatening jestures toward the officer"...LOL yea, right. you're on your belly, a cop says get up, then he shoots you 3 times in the back...very scary

flash91 | 11-03-2008 10:13 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by blueice (Post 1393558) Flash, you mean you never watch when they catch the crim...????
Not sure what you are asking, but no, I rarely watch TV.

GreenSpirit | 11-03-2008 10:26 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Isn't COPS a Fox program?

Maximus | 11-03-2008 12:47 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. If a cop wants you to be a criminal, there's nothing to stop him from doing so.

blueice | 11-03-2008 02:50 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1394020) Not sure what you are asking, but no, I rarely watch TV.
More often than not, they are correct and professional..

blueice | 11-03-2008 02:52 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenSpirit (Post 1394041) Isn't COPS a Fox program?
Yes, and I do not understand why they do not tape our boys fighting evil in Iraq..

Mike C | 11-03-2008 09:04 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeMyLand (Post 1393576) Was this out in public on the street or on the families property? Not that it makes much of a difference as the guy did nothing wrong. In my mind, though, I wouldn't pull a weapon unless I was going to use it. If I feel threatened enough to display the weapon, it would only be a fraction of a second after it was 'brandished' that it would be fired in defense. I would love to see the video of that one. I just can't believe the agenda and expectations that they are pushing down our throats with scenes like these. I guess we're supposed to believe that it is a job well done. You would be amazed at how many good upstanding men are in prison right now for doing honorable, noble deeds like protecting their family and women from predators. The judacized talmudic legal system that we are forced to endure turns heroic upstanding men into criminals everyday. These same men would be praised by our ancestors for doing honorable and courageous deeds, but this is what happens when your culture and values are destroyed and overrun.
You obviously are not in any profession that might be life threatening. A stockbroker or engineer or something? The reason I say this is because if you have the attitude that you shouldn't pull a weapon unless you plan on shooting it, which makes no sense. There are MANY reasons to pull a gun and NOT shoot it, more than there are TO shoot it. Maybe it was just phrased wrong, maybe you meant to say you would not pull a gun unless you were *prepared* to use it. I guess you just have to think of it in other terms. Think bank robberies, business holdups, felony car stops, known violent offender arrests, search warrants, barricaded suspects, etc. All these situations NEED a weapon displayed, but not all of them lead to a shooting(hiopefully). If you go into these situations without a gun "displayed" or pulled, you are not going to go into many more like them.......

Twisted Avatar | 11-03-2008 09:27 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Portmanteau (Post 1393194) Scenario 2: nfire. Two pigs screaming in flames from well-targeted Molotovs. .
HEH HEH HEH You Tube
You Tube

Twisted Avatar | 11-03-2008 09:29 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus (Post 1394320) If a cop wants you to be a criminal, there's nothing to stop him from doing so.
You will ALWAYS be "fitting the description" ALWAYS. T

Lucky225 | 11-04-2008 05:18 PM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. GREAT thread! same here. Can't f-ing stand to watch these bastards on my own free will. rephrase that..... won't

C4talyst | 11-07-2008 04:44 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Flash I saw that episode, the guy was clearly not following their orders, and they were on a call about a "man with a gun". The cops acted absolutely appropriately in that case.

flash91 | 11-07-2008 10:40 AM
Re: Why I can't watch cops. Quote:
Originally Posted by C4talyst (Post 1402905) Flash I saw that episode, the guy was clearly not following their orders, and they were on a call about a "man with a gun". The cops acted absolutely appropriately in that case.
1) He was off camera, until after being tazed, so that's horseshit. Why do they issue orders to people after they taze them? Do they not understand what a tazer is? 2) Not obeying a police officers - The guy is in his house, the police were not in pursuit of a criminal. No Warrant, no authority. 3) Arrested for obstruction. Of your own arrest for obstruction. Did that even make it past the first meeting with the judge? 4) Having a gun is not a crime. ------ If the police don't want to bother with probable cause, it looks like all they have to do is record an anonymous gun tip. I don't want a breakdown in law and order. I don't want to live in a police state. I don't want a revolution. But if the police can't follow the law, we will have all three.

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