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FiftySense | 02-27-2010 01:28 AM
76 Reasons to Have a Gun http://www.youroptimal.com/blog/2009...to-have-a-gun/ The simple act of having a gun is its own best use. Like a battleship parked off the coast its mere presence changes the dynamic of the situation without having to fire a single shot. By having a gun you become too dangerous to your predators. Criminals interviewed in jail say they don�t want anything to do with an armed civilian. That change in my human predators is exactly what I want to accomplish. A right exercised is a right retained. Its the best single tool for protecting your life and the lives of your loved ones. (JFPO) You detest American gun laws based on 1938 Nazi weapons laws. (JFPO) Armed societies are polite societies. (Switzerland). Switzerland is armed to the teeth with virtually no crime (Stephen Holbrook). Because of the patience and discipline you acquire while learning about the tool. So you can de-bunk Hollywood gun myths for your kids. So you�ll know that not using toy guns when playing is an important step in teaching kids to respect and handle the real thing safely and appropriately. It removes force from the equation of human interaction. Home Invasion Robberies. And your gun tool should be easy to get to (Since it will be in the holster you�re wearing). "�Robbery and assault victims who used a gun to resist were less likely to be attacked or to suffer an injury than those who used any other method of self- protection or those who did not resist at all.�� according to Professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Florida State University, Gary Kleck, in Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America Amazon http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=y...1&a=020230762X We call the police because they have guns, not pens to document what already happened to us. Cougars in the backyard � Happens all the time where we live. Coyotes on the streets � My wife has seen five, this year. Only a danger if they�re in packs or for small children and dogs, alone. Rattlesnakes in the hills � Signs all over the trails around here. Put snake shot in the first two chambers of your trail gun. Police Budget Cuts � Sacramento County in CA will reduce the number of squad cars from 39 to 8 due to budget cuts (Channel 3, Sacramento, air date 6/30/2009). Early Release of Violent criminals from overstuffed jails � Happens more than you think. Check your local news. There�s no more room left at the Inn. Economic Meltdown. Was Argentina more or less safe when their currency collapsed? And don�t forget the other 30 countries whose currency has collapsed in the last 100 years. Happens all the time to those other countries we tend to ignore. It could never happen in the US, right? Hurricane Katrina and the next natural disaster. Better than a knife past 2 yards. The only sure victim-prevention lies with the victim-to-be. Police only document crimes after they happen. They might investigate. But, they have no legal responsibility to prevent crime. Saying, "Police are not your bodyguard." is quite an understatement. According to the Dalai Lama, �If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.� (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001). When seconds count, the police arrive in minutes (Or hours). How many police does it take to give one speeding ticket to a dangerous soccer mom? Five! No punch line, here. It�s just how many I saw it take, last week. That�s five police not available for a real crime happening somewhere else. The L. A. riots � For which the shotgun I had in the back seat on the way home from work was the right tool. We counted 22 plumes of smoke on each side of the freeway on the way home, that day. And the US troops on the streets for the next 3 days must have thought the M-16�s they were carrying were the right tool for the job, too. Now why would myself and those troops think it was useful to have a gun if neither of us actually fired? Because having a gun is its own best use. Guns are in full use even when they�re not being fired. NYC Blackouts. I predict more blackout as more cities and counties go bankrupt and don�t have the money to maintain their electricity grids. The official role of police is to investigate, not prevent crime. Self-defense is an inherent human right. It is given to you by God, not the government. Since Criminals will always have guns, there�s no reasonable expectation of self-defense if law-abiding citizens don�t have them, too. Meat on the table � Or do you only eat meat that other people kill for you? 1 in 4 chance of being on the receiving end of a violent crime (and that was before the economic meltdown). Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Sonia Sotomayor. If you were impressed with Clinton�s torture of the word "IS" wait �til you see what this bunch will do to the 27 words of the 2nd amendment. By the time they�re done they�ll have us believing the amendment has something to do with toaster ovens. Don�t laugh: I should have made each one of these people their own separate reason. If history is any guide we should now expect increased �gun-control� (Victim Disarmament) laws passed under the guise of �protecting us.� With the Government takeover of all banks, GM & Chrysler the US has now crossed over into the dictionary definition of fascism. Possession of firearms by private citizens threaten fascist governments that have always sought coercion and control. Gun control laws increase violent crime as only law abiding citizens abide by the law. That makes "Gun Control" into effective "Victim Disarmament". Last line of defense for family while traveling. Clean cut young men like Ted Bundy. As a hobby to improve self-discipline and the understanding of physics. To bring your physical preparation for resisting non-initiated force in line with your spiritual and intellectual efforts to avoid it. The Virginia Tech Massacre � Cho killed 32 people and wounded another 17. Gun-Control (Read Victim Disarmament) has turned our schools into killing zones. Don�t those darn psychos know that guns are not allowed on campus? Actually, people like Cho do know and that�s why they choose school campuses for their shooting rampages. School officials called the police when they heard Cho gunning people down at Virginia Tech. They called the police because they had guns that could stop Cho. Were guns the problem or the solution that day? The answer is that Cho was the problem and guns were the solution. If law abiding students were allowed to carry then their guns would have been the solution delivered loing before so many innocent students were killed waiting for the police to arrive and �cordon off the area�. Camping among dangerous 4-legged creatures. Camping among dangerous 2-legged creatures. To equalize physical strengths in a confrontation. Carrying a gun is a lighter burden than regret. The Zodiac Killer. They never caught him. He claims 37 victims and is probably between 60 to 70 years old now, if alive. There�s an active website where you can submit tips. If violent crime is not a factor then why do we still need police? ( Boston T. Party Amazon ) You�re several more times likely, in your lifetime, to need a handgun to deal with a lethal threat than you are to need fire insurance on your home . . . yet more people carry fire insurance than carry a gun. ( Boston T. Party Amazon ) Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 per day. You don�t hear about them because they never happened, silly. Violent offenders shy away from houses and people who are likely to be armed. Your security is not your neighbors responsibility. Your security is not legally the police�s responsibility. To increase criminal expectations that you may have a gun. To bear your share of the responsibility and burden of the proven gun deterrence of crime. Because criminals fear entering your House because of my gun. Get your own and spread the non-violence. Because there are evil people in the world that can�t be talked or reeducated out of trying to kill you. To convert force into persuasion. To remove fear from human interaction. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. (Marko Kloos). The gun is the only weapon that�s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. (Marko Kloos) To promote equality. Every living creature has the natural right of self defense. There are people in this world to whom you�re not a human being. You are merely an obstacle to obtaining your possessions. After you hand over the money, they�ll still kill you for being a witness. YouTube videos of people being killed after they give up the money or open the safe. As a communication device for someone who�d kill you to get the latest playstation or XBox or iphone. Because every citizen in switzerland has an automatic weapon in their basement and they have almost zero violent crime. To appeal to the better nature of a man who doesn�t have one. So that you can protect yourself against criminals who use guns as a deadly extension of their inability to deal with people. Because there are people out there who would use a gun against you just to avoid the �hassles� of persuasion or the �inconvenience� of fair trade. �According to the FBI, states with �shall-issue� right-to-carry laws have a 26 percent lower total violent crime rate, a 20 percent lower homicide rate, a 39 percent lower robbery rate and a 22 percent lower aggravated assault rate than those states that do not allow their citizens to legally carry guns.� "The Bureau of Justice�s national average states that I have a 1-in-4 chance of being a victim of violent crime in my lifetime. The risk conferred by living in a major population center . . . .- where index felonies (rape, robbery, homicide, aggravated assault, etc.) number 200 a day � increases my chances of being a predator�s lunch stack to 1-in-9 annually." Mark F. Twight, "Eat or Be Eaten" S.W.A.T., March 2000 (p. 60) Genocide frequently follows government disarmament of private citizens. The JFPO calls this type of government disarmament Death by �Gun Control�: The Human Cost of Victim Disarmament Amazon http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=y...1&a=0964230461. "Liberty or death", the meaning of which is clear and absolute, is but a trivial phrase if you do not carry a gun (Living with Glocks by Robert H. Boatman).

Maddie | 02-27-2010 01:46 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Good reasons, except maybe the rattlesnake one. I can never figure that one out. I can see if they're in your yard, but shooting them while hiking? If you have time to shoot them, you have time to just get your butt out of the way of them. I've run into a lot of snakes while hiking, even putting my foot down right next to rattlers a couple of times. I never had to shoot one, and the only close calls I've had were on occasions when I'd put my foot down right next to one, and of course, you can't really shoot when your foot is four inches from a startled snake! Pfft! Me thinks the list writer might be kind of a sissy boy!?!

etheostoma | 02-27-2010 01:48 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Good post, but how about just walking around the snakes, and letting them be. In my home state, timber rattlesnakes are endangered. The primary reason for their decline is people killing them. I can understand people killing them if they are under your kids swing set, but out on the trail?

Saul Mine | 02-27-2010 05:49 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie (Post 2201405) Good reasons, except maybe the rattlesnake one. I can never figure that one out. I can see if they're in your yard, but shooting them while hiking? If you have time to shoot them, you have time to just get your butt out of the way of them. I've run into a lot of snakes while hiking, even putting my foot down right next to rattlers a couple of times. I never had to shoot one, and the only close calls I've had were on occasions when I'd put my foot down right next to one, and of course, you can't really shoot when your foot is four inches from a startled snake! Pfft! Me thinks the list writer might be kind of a sissy boy!?!
I have encountered rattle snakes on several occasions. The main factor is that the snake is afraid you are going to step on him and really just wants to get away. A rattle snake can strike about one third of his length, so you have to get awfully close before he bites. If you really want to walk where a snake is coiled, just kick a bit of dirt at him. Snakes don't like that and will slither away. Park rangers say that 90% of snake bites occur when people are harassing the snake. They also say that in 90% of snake bites no venom is injected, so if you get bitten don't freak out. You're probably going to live.

crazychicken | 02-27-2010 06:56 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 2201501) I have encountered rattle snakes on several occasions. The main factor is that the snake is afraid you are going to step on him and really just wants to get away. A rattle snake can strike about one third of his length, so you have to get awfully close before he bites. If you really want to walk where a snake is coiled, just kick a bit of dirt at him. Snakes don't like that and will slither away. Park rangers say that 90% of snake bites occur when people are harassing the snake. They also say that in 90% of snake bites no venom is injected, so if you get bitten don't freak out. You're probably going to live.
Great advise. And your last sentence is particularly good. "You're probably going to live". And if not, you have a legal way to beat the income tax.:9536: CC

Silver Shield | 02-27-2010 07:02 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Where is Twisted... He is going to mess his pants on this thread... :bear_w00t:

Heimdhal | 02-27-2010 07:16 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun I only need one reason: Because theres always going to be some one out there that just wants to sh** all over everyone else, and they usualy have guns, and sometimes fancy titles and friends with guns, so I want to level the playing field as much as I can and have some too. ok, two reasons: and cause they are really, really fun!

PALLADIUM | 02-27-2010 07:43 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Good article.:wink:

General of Darkness | 02-27-2010 01:19 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun What about? http://www.yorapper.com/Photos/you-g...d-yorapper.jpg

StackerKen | 02-27-2010 01:36 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun we have guns... but we kill rattlesnakes with one of these http://base1.googlehosted.com/base_m...=ed41440&hl=en works well

Twisted Avatar | 02-27-2010 01:40 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Self-defense is an inherent human right. It is given to you by God, not the Government. Remeber that. T

Red_Leg | 02-27-2010 01:51 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun The rural road I live on just outside of a town of 1600 is one of three that enter the town. The other two roads have experienced burglaries once, sometimes twice a year for the last five years. The residents on both of those roads have the reputation of being anti gun. My road is not anti gun. My road hasn't had any burglaries in the last five years. Amongst other things, I would like to think it is because it is well known that most of us are armed. And will use those arms if needed.

General of Darkness | 02-27-2010 01:53 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 2201821) Self-defense is an inherent human right. It is given to you by God, not the Government. Remeber that. T
I would disagree. My right to self preservation is given to me by ME, and is the result of MY own actions. God has NO hand in what I've done, and what I'm going to do. He "might" have created man, but that's all he did. We have NO rights given to us by God. We give ourselves our rights. There's never been a case where someone called the cops and God showed up. There's never been a case where someone was being raped, robbed or murder and God showed up to stop it. TA, this isn't attack on you my friend, it's just a pet peeve of mine. Our rights are not given, we TAKE THEM and make them our own. The meek do not run the world, the people with the biggest BOOM stick do.

General of Darkness | 02-27-2010 01:56 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Leg (Post 2201833) The rural road I live on just outside of a town of 1600 is one of three that enter the town. The other two roads have experienced burglaries once, sometimes twice a year for the last five years. The residents on both of those roads have the reputation of being anti gun. My road is not anti gun. My road hasn't had any burglaries in the last five years. Amongst other things, I would like to think it is because it is well known that most of us are armed. And will use those arms if needed.
Damn right Red Leg, damn right. :coolbeer: It reminds me of this. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ea48E3Vodc...rmed-house.jpg

Red_Leg | 02-27-2010 02:02 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by General of Darkness (Post 2201844) Damn right Red Leg, damn right. :coolbeer: It reminds me of this. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ea48E3Vodc...rmed-house.jpg
Back at you, General. :coolbeer: Certain rumors are not worth the attempt to debunk. Especially the ones about fire arms. :ok: So far it works in my neck of the woods.

FiftySense | 03-03-2010 10:46 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun I was taking my trash out a couple of years ago during the night hours. Two men were outside nearby. One of them asked if I had a cigarette. I told him I didn't smoke and he started to walk towards me stating that he thought I was lying. I pulled out my .45 and told him that the only thing on me that produces smoke is the end of this barrel. The guy immediately apologized and said he was "only kidding" with me while slowly backing away. I informed him that I was not joking and would be more than glad to demonstrate. After I said that, I saw nothing but assholes and elbows.

renegade_01 | 03-04-2010 02:27 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun some piece of shit was road ragin the other day, and he thought it would be cute to follow me. He pulls up beside me and I pull out my S&W 442 airweight, and let him see that I aint f*cking around. He hit the brakes and that was the end of it.... I was ready to put 2 in his door. Pretty entertaining to say the least....the way I see it, a car is a deadly weapon.

Twisted Avatar | 03-04-2010 03:11 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by FiftySense (Post 2209633) I was taking my trash out a couple of years ago during the night hours. Two men were outside nearby. One of them asked if I had a cigarette. I told him I didn't smoke and he started to walk towards me stating that he thought I was lying. I pulled out my .45 and told him that the only thing on me that produces smoke is the end of this barrel. The guy immediately apologized and said he was "only kidding" with me while slowly backing away. I informed him that I was not joking and would be more than glad to demonstrate. After I said that, I saw nothing but assholes and elbows.
You should have let the police handle it Taking defensive measures into your own hands (LITERALLY) is a dangerous thing. :biggrin: T

jetgraphics | 03-04-2010 04:10 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Dictionary (Sovereign) Gun Control - hitting what you aimed at Right to life - useless unless defended Private property - Me No Trespassing - I am private property, do not trespass, trespassers will be shot, survivors will be prosecuted.

FiftySense | 03-04-2010 08:22 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 2210713) You should have let the police handle it Taking defensive measures into your own hands (LITERALLY) is a dangerous thing. :biggrin: T
I know it TA. You are absolutely correct. Had I called 911, i'm sure the police would have expedited their dunkin donuts order, showed up immediately and apprehended the suspects before they had a chance to do any damage. :beer:

Haltiat | 03-04-2010 08:26 PM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie (Post 2201405) Good reasons, except maybe the rattlesnake one. I can never figure that one out. I can see if they're in your yard, but shooting them while hiking? If you have time to shoot them, you have time to just get your butt out of the way of them. I've run into a lot of snakes while hiking, even putting my foot down right next to rattlers a couple of times. I never had to shoot one, and the only close calls I've had were on occasions when I'd put my foot down right next to one, and of course, you can't really shoot when your foot is four inches from a startled snake! Pfft! Me thinks the list writer might be kind of a sissy boy!?!
You may as well be shooting a bald eagle if you shoot a rattlesnake.

nickelless | 03-05-2010 12:00 AM
Re: 76 Reasons to Have a Gun I'm forwarding this thread to a few friends of mine who don't understand why I carry 24/7.

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