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Doge | 12-13-2009 02:41 PM
Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. The thread about Winchester delivering 200 million .40 rounds to DHS ( http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=431510 ) was the tipping point for me. I think we need to organize a boycott of all manufacturers who do business with the federal government. Let's face it, they are delivering the weapons which we be used AGAINST US soon. I will no longer support that. We need to start a list of which companies are fine to buy from and which ones should be boycotted.

TechGuy | 12-13-2009 03:16 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Then it will be pretty much soviet block foreign arms only. The US manufacturers exist now only at the whim of the feds...I don't think we will see any tier one manufacturer not going along.

TechGuy | 12-13-2009 03:16 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. but yeah, 200m rounds? wow.

maximumrebel1 | 12-13-2009 03:34 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Here is a post I wrote in October regarding my thoughts about the final gun grab. It has good info in there about what companies to avoid and why. My Thoughts On The Final Gun Grab

ThomasJ1776 | 12-13-2009 03:35 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 2073641) Then it will be pretty much soviet block foreign arms only. The US manufacturers exist now only at the whim of the feds...I don't think we will see any tier one manufacturer not going along.
I agree. It is a noble cause, but we will be doing more harm to ourselves than them. I would Imagine every single AR company either through itself or it's parent company has some form of contract with the feds. Edit:Didnt mean to just say AR, I meant ammo and parts company as well. We will have nothing of consistent quality to use or practice with if we do not use from those aligned with TPTB.

Doge | 12-13-2009 03:41 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. I think I'm seeing a new business opportunity here. Hopefully we can create a market for it. Quote:
Originally Posted by maximumrebel1 (Post 2073661) Here is a post I wrote in October regarding my thoughts about the final gun grab. It has good info in there about what companies to avoid and why. My Thoughts On The Final Gun Grab
Max, like normal, we are on the same page. I am so glad someone else finally sees what is going on here. I've been saying the same thing about Cerberus on here for a while now.

meatman | 12-13-2009 04:12 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by Doge (Post 2073614) The thread about Winchester delivering 200 million .40 rounds to DHS ( http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=431510 ) was the tipping point for me. I think we need to organize a boycott of all manufacturers who do business with the federal government. Let's face it, they are delivering the weapons which we be used AGAINST US soon. I will no longer support that. We need to start a list of which companies are fine to buy from and which ones should be boycotted.
Not me So let me get this right we come on here and say everyone should be able to buy any firearm and ammo. But now the gooberment is buying ammo that I can buy and I am suppose to be against their right to buy. Thats F**king stupid As long as I can buy I have no problem anyone else buying even if its the govt.

Tallships | 12-13-2009 04:33 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. The more buyers the more increased demand the more produced surplus and sold to us cheap in 5-10 years.

maximumrebel1 | 12-13-2009 04:39 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 2073782) The more buyers the more increased demand the more produced surplus and sold to us cheap in 5-10 years.
I believe it is more buyers > more demand > higher prices > shorter supply In no way do I think DHS buying 200 million rounds of ammo is or can be, a good thing.

Tallships | 12-13-2009 04:54 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by maximumrebel1 (Post 2073796) I believe it is more buyers > more demand > higher prices > shorter supply In no way do I think DHS buying 200 million rounds of ammo is or can be, a good thing.
You are right, but that is for immediate time. That was why I said 5-10 years later.

TechGuy | 12-13-2009 04:59 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. So lets do some math... How many DHS employees are there? Lets say for sake of argument there are 20,000. Let's say each employee in average uses 100 rounds for practice a month.... We know that the contract is for 5 years. 20,000x60x100=120,000,000. And that is for ammo that would be GONE and used up, not for operational stockpiles.

Willie Peter | 12-13-2009 05:17 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 2073817) So lets do some math... How many DHS employees are there? Lets say for sake of argument there are 20,000. Let's say each employee in average uses 100 rounds for practice a month.... We know that the contract is for 5 years. 20,000x60x100=120,000,000. And that is for ammo that would be GONE and used up, not for operational stockpiles.
Actually, the number stated is 225,000 employees spread out over 22 Depts., of course not all would be directly related to some type of enforcement Customs Service � Treasury Coast Guard � Transportation Secret Service � Treasury United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (formerly Immigration and Naturalization Service) � Justice United States Border Patrol (formerly Immigration and Naturalization Service) � Justice U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (formerly Immigration and Naturalization Service) � Justice United States Federal Protective Service (part of NPPD) Transportation Security Administration � Transportation Federal Law Enforcement Training Center � Treasury Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service � Agriculture Office for Domestic Preparedness � Justice Federal Emergency Management Agency Strategic National Stockpile and the National Disaster Medical System � HHS Nuclear Incident Response Team � Energy Domestic Emergency Support Teams � Justice National Domestic Preparedness Office � FBI CBRN Countermeasures Programs � Energy Environmental Measurements Laboratory � Energy National BW Defense Analysis Center � Defense Plum Island Animal Disease Center � Agriculture Federal Computer Incident Response Center � GSA National Communications System � Defense National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD) (formerly the National Infrastructure Protection Center) � FBI Energy Security and Assurance Program � Energy

State of Jefferson | 12-13-2009 05:58 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Oh, boy, that'll show them! :sarc: Remington - Federal contracts Winchester - Federal contracts Federal Cartridge - Federal (government) contracts (including Lake City) Speer/CCI - Federal contracts Dakota Ammo (Cor-Bon) - Federal contracts Black Hills - Federal contracts Hornady - Federal contracts The list goes on, including for many foreign companies who make 5.56mm like Sellier & Bellot, Prvi Partizan, and PMC. So, unless you're ready to cast your own bullets, make your brass, and create your own primers & powder, you're SOL if you want to boycott companies that do business with the Feds. Although, I guess we could buy Israel Military Industries ammo. :confused_ma:

TechGuy | 12-13-2009 06:10 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by Willie Peter (Post 2073846) Actually, the number stated is 225,000 employees spread out over 22 Depts., of course not all would be directly related to some type of enforcement
Right.. so given the context of the number of employees, say 40% are enforcement? Then this really is not that big of an issue.

hoarder | 12-13-2009 06:11 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 2073735) Not me So let me get this right we come on here and say everyone should be able to buy any firearm and ammo. But now the gooberment is buying ammo that I can buy and I am suppose to be against their right to buy. Thats F**king stupid As long as I can buy I have no problem anyone else buying even if its the govt.
Anything meatman disagrees with is "F**king stupid". The Federal Government is not a citizen. Anything they buy is purchased from money stolen from you and me. Once purchased, the merchandise is usually used against us.

hoarder | 12-13-2009 06:22 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by maximumrebel1 (Post 2073661) Here is a post I wrote in October regarding my thoughts about the final gun grab. It has good info in there about what companies to avoid and why. My Thoughts On The Final Gun Grab
That's something I have been thinking about, too. I have long been a fan of Sig Sauer firearms, the older ones anyway. Ron Cohen became CEO and the quality of their products went downhill and they quit supplying parts for guns made before the Cohen regime. Similar things have happened at other gun manufacturers. This is what I call "a war of a thousand pin pricks". They use many different strategies at once, most of them pretty subtle, but added together can be devastating.

maximumrebel1 | 12-13-2009 06:26 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2073940) They use many different strategies at once, most of them pretty subtle, but added together can be devastating.
Also with the subtle acts, when you point them out to people they say "oh your just grasping at straws" yet when you see them all in concert you realize that it isn't just random coincidences.

CyberGold | 12-13-2009 06:29 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Gee, lets see.... Back in the 70's I vowed to boycott Gallo wines and I haven't had any since... they gone out of business yet?

State of Jefferson | 12-13-2009 06:33 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2073940) That's something I have been thinking about, too. I have long been a fan of Sig Sauer firearms, the older ones anyway. Ron Cohen became CEO and the quality of their products went downhill and they quit supplying parts for guns made before the Cohen regime.
Which gun parts are you looking for? And Cohen is only in charge of the SIG Sauer USA division. Try to get parts, if necessary, from Germany from Sauer & Sohn - they still have their Swastika logo. :wink: http://www.sauer.de/

maximumrebel1 | 12-13-2009 06:36 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberGold (Post 2073946) Gee, lets see.... Back in the 70's I vowed to boycott Gallo wines and I haven't had any since... they gone out of business yet?
Somethings are a matter of principal. I take it that you voted for McAmnesty over Chuck Baldwin or some other candidate because it would be "futile" to vote 3rd party right. :bear_rolleyes:

hoarder | 12-13-2009 06:45 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by maximumrebel1 (Post 2073942) Also with the subtle acts, when you point them out to people they say "oh your just grasping at straws" yet when you see them all in concert you realize that it isn't just random coincidences.
It's easy to ridicule someone who's complaining about a pin prick while sticking 999 more of them in him at the same time. Kill me with a thousand pin pricks and I'm just as dead as if you stuck a stiletto in my heart. Quote:
Originally Posted by State of Jefferson (Post 2073952) Which gun parts are you looking for? And Cohen is only in charge of the SIG Sauer USA division. Try to get parts, if necessary, from Germany from Sauer & Sohn - they still have their Swastika logo. :wink: http://www.sauer.de/
I don't need any at the momemt but I'm in the market for a P220 .45 Made in Germany and I heard they don't sell extractors and some other parts anymore. Will Germany from Sauer & Sohn ship to the US?

flying | 12-13-2009 08:17 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 2073735) Not me As long as I can buy I have no problem anyone else buying even if its the govt.
Bud's Guns does not list any nuclear warheads though :wink:

FireMattMillen | 12-13-2009 09:36 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. At the very least, boycott HS Precision (endorsed by Lon Horiuchi).

JJ_ | 12-13-2009 09:51 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 2074246) At the very least, boycott HS Precision (endorsed by Lon Horiuchi).
That one's a must. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=326074

TechGuy | 12-13-2009 09:58 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 2074246) At the very least, boycott HS Precision (endorsed by Lon Horiuchi).
I thought that was a given....

maximumrebel1 | 12-13-2009 10:00 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 2074246) At the very least, boycott HS Precision (endorsed by Lon Horiuchi).
I hadn't heard that thanks for posting. That son of a bitch will burn in hell one day.

Doge | 12-14-2009 12:56 AM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. I know a boycott like this will be very difficult. I know that, but something needs to be done. A total boycott doesn't look possible, and I made this thread in haste because I was/am very angry about the whole situation. I'm sure their are some firearm makers who do not have government contracts and I'm going to start buying from them. Ammunition wise, they may all have their hands dirty but I know I'm not buying from Winchester, or any other, who deals with the feds in such a large manner.

meatman | 12-14-2009 09:21 AM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2073916) Anything meatman disagrees with is "F**king stupid". The Federal Government is not a citizen. Anything they buy is purchased from money stolen from you and me. Once purchased, the merchandise is usually used against us.
No I just live in the real world if they are counting on my money they are starving Debt free work for cash (around $75,000) property tax on my land is $175 year I really don't buy anything new and other then gas tax their lucky if they get $300 year out of me. and yes Boycotting a ammo company because they sell to the govt. is F**king stupid

meatman | 12-14-2009 09:23 AM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by flying (Post 2074109) Bud's Guns does not list any nuclear warheads though :wink:
See now thats what I am talking about Govt can buy nuclear warheads and we can't so now we have something to boycott

hoarder | 12-14-2009 09:28 AM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by meatman (Post 2074788) No I just live in the real world F**king stupid
Is it possible to post without being belligerant?

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Patriotme | 12-14-2009 11:23 AM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. It wouldn't work. There aren't enough gun owners and sportsmen that are politically minded to make a difference. Yeah, we can put out the numbers one day every 2 or 4 years to vote but I doubt we could get a large enough group to boycott almost every American gun or ammunition factory within the US. Just imagine trying to get the boycott going, "Come on Patriots!, buy foreign ammo and put our companies out of business."

The Argent Dragon | 12-14-2009 11:54 AM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 2073641) Then it will be pretty much soviet block foreign arms only......
That's fine by me........they're cheaper and a better buy anyhow. :coolbeer:

Mike C | 12-14-2009 01:19 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. This thread was a waste of 5 minutes....

meatman | 12-14-2009 02:20 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2074797) Is it possible to post without being belligerant ?
I am sorry The ideal to boycott a ammo manufacture because they sell to the wicked gooberment is a wonderful and joyful ideal. And now lets join hands and sing a xmas carol your right I can post without being Belligerent :36_3_12:

TechGuy | 12-14-2009 03:43 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 2075013) That's fine by me........they're cheaper and a better buy anyhow. :coolbeer:
Somehow I figured you'd pipe in on that.....:biggrin:

eat_beef | 12-14-2009 06:18 PM
Re: Boycott of manufacturers who do business with the federal gov. Actually the goobermint has bought from all the usual suspects RE surplus combloc stuff to arm Iraqis, Afghanis, PollyAnnas and Chumbawumbas too. That includes arms and ammo from all the combloc countries, plus new production stuff like Wolf. BTW, I think H&S dropped Horriuchi. Not that it matters, I'm still peeved.:flame:

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