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still afloat | 11-21-2009 10:39 PM
Opinions on scopes ? Ok , looking to re-scope a rem 700 30-06 the scope on it just didn't hold up today . I'm thinking about the 2.8 - 10x but don't know anything about these other than a friend says they are great .Any opinions on these compared to other low to mid priced scopes . ones in the under $150 + or - a few dollars range . Federal� Intensity� 2.8-10X 44 mm Rifle Scope F.O.V. @ 100 yds. is 40' at 2.8X, 12' at 10X. Weighs 15 1/2 ozs. Federal� Intensity� 3.8-12X 44 mm AO Rifle Scope F.O.V. @ 100 yds. is 30' at 3.8X, 10' at 12X. Adjustable objective. Weighs 19 1/2 ozs.

SilverCity | 11-21-2009 11:10 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Never heard of those... From Natchez Shooters Supply: Try the Weaver Classic V Series 3-9x, 2-10x, etc. in about your price range Burris Fullfield II line of scopes...very solid, durable, bright optics... Natchez offers the Fullfield II 3-9x with free spotting scope for $189. Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x with Firefly reticle...$189 Leupold Rifleman series (Walmart)

steyr_m | 11-22-2009 10:17 AM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? +1 for the Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x.... I have an Elite 3200 when it was made by Bausch & Lomb. When bushnell picked it up, I'm sure quality dropped a bit. Mine is still doing quite well.

ruprick | 11-22-2009 10:27 AM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Any Bushnell in your price range......Elite 3200 or Legend series fit this price range. I'm a big fan of Bushnell - even their low cost Banners.....I have a 1.5X - 4.5X Banner on an 870 slug gun...and it stands up to the punishing recoil of the Remington Buckhammers just fine.

freud198 | 11-22-2009 10:27 AM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? nightforce.......... http://www.nightforceoptics.com/

Early Cuyler | 11-22-2009 10:36 AM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Quote:
...ones in the under $150 + or - a few dollars range .
I think nightforce might be outside the budget by a smidge. Nikon makes some decent glass for the money. Others have already mentioned some good ones too. Fixed 4 power $149.99 : http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-ri...ters-4x40.html 2-7x32 $139.95 : http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-ri...ff-2-7x32.html 3-9x40 for a few dollars more with some fancy reticle options : http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-ri...rs-3-9x40.html

electric-amish | 11-22-2009 11:28 AM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? I went with an somewhat expensive Ziess Conquest with the zplex 600. 3x10 very happy with it. I like the brightness and clearness of the picture. I also like the Elite 3200 by Bushnell. Its my belief that almost any name brand scope costing more than $250 will preform in the VAST majority of circumstanses(sp) E-A

hoarder | 11-22-2009 12:07 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? When you compare scopes, check the eye relief. A hunting scope should have forgiving eye relief so you don't waste time trying to position your eyeball in the precise exact spot so you can get around the "blackout" while the prey is running away. There are a lot of excellent scopes that have unforgiving eye relief. Save them for your target rifles.

Early Cuyler | 11-22-2009 12:14 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Quote:
There are a lot of excellent scopes that have unforgiving eye relief. Save them for your target rifles.
Yep, the ones with low recoil. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3VkGnBY14J...EMP%27SCUT.JPG

farscott | 11-22-2009 12:29 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? How one plans on using a rifle should determine the scope one chooses. I also believe that many people buy too much scope in terms of magnification. As such, one ends up with more weight and less quality for a given amount spent. Here is how I choose a scope. 0) Ignore 30mm tubes unless you have a very specific need. One-inch tubes are strong enough and wide enough for everyone who is not taking shots at very, very long distances that require lots of adjustment range. In addition, many 30mm tubes use one-inch internals. In that case, you are paying for extra weight and no optical benefit. Also ignore lighted reticles. More weight and something else to go wrong in the field. 1) Determine what the rifle's purpose is. A varmint scope is different from a deer scope and both are different from a bench rest scope. For example, I will use a Ruger Frontier rifle for a .308 Winchester since I just did this for my daughter. 2) Determine the maximum distance at which I intend to shoot the rifle. For where I am located, 200 yards is the longest shot I can ever see, let alone take, on a deer. 3) Determine at what distance I can easily see the game animal's vitals with no magnification. For a deer, a fifty yard shot with iron sights is doable for deer. 4) Divide the result of 2) by the result of 3). That provides the maximum power I need. In this case, that is a 4X. 5) Find scopes that have the maximum power of 4X or a bit more and an exit pupil of at least 5mm at that power. Exit pupil is the objective lens in mm divided by the power. In this case, the objective has to be at least 20mm for the 4X scope. Most people gain no benefit from an exit pupil larger than 7mm as the pupil can dilate no more than 7mm. My pupils only dilate to about 5mm, so I use 5mm as my rule. Any larger objective will provide no benefit. All you get is more weight and a need for higher rings, adding more weight and destroying your cheek weld. 6) Based on your action type, narrow your scope choices to ones that can be mounted on your action. For example, it is difficult to mount a very short scope on a magnum length action. It also makes little sense to mount a long scope on a short action. 7) Look at the remaining list of scopes and choose based on personal factors and usage. For example, Leupold scopes have lots of eye relief but give up field of view. On a hard-kicking rifle, that is an overall plus. On a varmint rifle, detail is important and the long eye relief may not be needed. More FOV is a good thing, and Zeiss may make more sense here. On a light .308 used for snap shots on deer by a teenager, I want a little more eye relief. On a varmint rifle, optical resolution and more FOV would be a plus. 8) Choose a suitable reticle. For deer, I like the standard Duplex or plex reticles. For varmints, I like dots. For pigs, I like the heavy duplex reticles than I can find in a hurry. Avoid the mil-dot reticle unless you shoot a lot and know the system. 9) Decide whether you want a fixed-power or variable-power scope. Fixed-power scopes are usually less expensive than a variable-power scope of the same quality, but they are getting harder to find as most people want the variables. 10) Look at lens coatings. Each company's coatings are unique, and some provide interesting benefits. Bushnell has a coating that handles water well. That may be a plus if you hunt in the Pacific Northwest. Swarovski is great for low-light. 11) Look at the companies and their reputation. I like Leupold scopes for several reasons, including lifetime warranty, durability and the customer service. When there is a tie, I also lean towards Leupold. I also like Kahles, but the customer support is iffy at best. Swarovski makes a heck of a scope as well, but I have trouble spending double the rifle's cost on a scope. BSA is cheap stuff that may not hold zero when you need it. Bushnell offers some great scopes for the money. Burris has some unique offerings. 12) Buy from a good vendor like SWFA or Optics Planet. I like the former as I usually get lens covers or rings thrown in for free on the deal. BTW, I put a Leupold 1.5-5X VX-3 on my daughter's Ruger Frontier. It is set to 4X and zeroed. For now, I told her to ignore the power ring. If you do decide to use it, carry the rifle with the scope set to the lowest power. Then you can get off a snap shot. You can crank the power up for a more distant shot.

hoarder | 11-22-2009 12:29 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Early Cuyler (Post 2038832) Yep, the ones with low recoil. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3VkGnBY14J...EMP%27SCUT.JPG
There is a difference between unforgiving and "too close" eye relief, I have a target scope with plenty of relief, but my eye has to be positioned at exactly the right point before it allows me to see through it.

TUMS | 11-22-2009 03:38 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Leupold gold ring. With the no questions asked warranty. Over the past few months i've been outfitting all my hunting rifles with brand new VX-3 scopes. Cost me a fortune doing it. They sell cheaper scopes though, as long as it's a gold ring scope it's covered under warrranty for life. Same with their binoculars & spotting scopes.

steyr_m | 11-22-2009 03:48 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Quote:
Originally Posted by freud198 (Post 2038713) nightforce.......... http://www.nightforceoptics.com/
I have a NF 1-4x NSX, it's an excellent scope, but out of the price range stated by the original author. That being said, I'd rather have a Schmidt & Bender Short-dot before I'd buy the NF; but as always, price is a factor.

eat_beef | 11-22-2009 04:05 PM
Re: Opinions on scopes ? Quote:
Originally Posted by steyr_m (Post 2039109) I have a NF 1-4x NSX, it's an excellent scope, but out of the price range stated by the original author. That being said, I'd rather have a Schmidt & Bender Short-dot before I'd buy the NF; but as always, price is a factor.
Then get a Premier. Schmidt quatlity, sub Nightforce price.:bear_thumb: Friends don't let friends buy cheap glass. I have a Leupold VX 3 I bought nearly 30 years ago. It's been riding on a HEAVILY used Rem 700 in .270 all this time, and it's still as good as the day I mounted it. Had I bought one of the china scopes, I would have replaced it a half dozen times by now.

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