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<SLV> | 10-11-2008 07:50 PM
Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm I helped a friend buy a new 9mm, and I'm beginning to feel like I didn't really do him a favor. He wanted something for around $300, so I steered him to the Taurus PT111 for $316. It is a nice size, simple operation, reasonable ergonomics, and a good price for brand-name 9mm. At the range today at least 2 rounds in every magazine did not fire. The primer strikes were shallow, and in three cases there was no firing pin indentation on the primer. All of the dented primer rounds cycled through my CZ P-01 just fine. Accuracy was also not as good as with the CZ. I'd say the groups averaged up to 50% larger with the Taurus. Anyone else experienced problems with a Taurus 9mm?

sirgonzo420 | 10-11-2008 07:54 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm No problems with Taurus PT92, in my experience, though I have not had the opportunity to shoot it as much as I would like. I can't answer for the other models.

sneak | 10-11-2008 08:20 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Friends don't let friends buy a Taurus! :wink: My dad has 3 Taurus revolvers and all 3 of them have been back to the factory for light primer strikes. However, they all work fine since he got them back.

SilverCity | 10-11-2008 08:25 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Send it back to the factory. This is unfortunately a recurring problem with a lot of manufacturers these days--quality control. :thumpdown

Twisted Avatar | 10-11-2008 08:32 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Wow I never knew this.... Thank God I was stupid enough to get a Glock on the first go round. T

Ag_man | 10-11-2008 08:38 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1352079) I helped a friend buy a new 9mm, and I'm beginning to feel like I didn't really do him a favor. He wanted something for around $300, so I steered him to the Taurus PT111 for $316. It is a nice size, simple operation, reasonable ergonomics, and a good price for brand-name 9mm. At the range today at least 2 rounds in every magazine did not fire. The primer strikes were shallow, and in three cases there was no firing pin indentation on the primer. All of the dented primer rounds cycled through my CZ P-01 just fine. Accuracy was also not as good as with the CZ. I'd say the groups averaged up to 50% larger with the Taurus. Anyone else experienced problems with a Taurus 9mm?
I have very similar problems with my Taurum PT-111 9mm. It varies with ammo type, the worst was either the Winchester white box, or the reloads that my range sells. I did send it back to the factory, but whatever they claimed to do, made no difference. No more Taurus semi-autos for me! I'm OK with their revolvers, never had a problem. Accuracy I consider acceptable, but not great by any means.

JJ_ | 10-11-2008 08:54 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Well... you all know what I think about Taurus.... Winchester's primers Are harder... Were you guys shootin White Box?

sirgonzo420 | 10-11-2008 09:05 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1352162) Well... you all know what I think about Taurus.... Winchester's primers Are harder... Were you guys shootin White Box?
I've usually shot wolf ammo actually, but have not had a problem with winchester either. But I have the PT92, so I dunno about the PT111 (doesn't it have a plastic frame?) http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/100SS-11.jpg PT92 ^^^^

SilverCity | 10-11-2008 09:40 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Any pistol used for self-defense should be able to feed and fire with extreme reliability any quality factory ammo or quality handloads. If not, you have nothing but a short club...get it fixed or get rid of it. Save up your money and buy a Glock.

Ag_man | 10-11-2008 10:33 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1352185) I've usually shot wolf ammo actually, but have not had a problem with winchester either. But I have the PT92, so I dunno about the PT111 (doesn't it have a plastic frame?)
http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/100SS-11.jpg The PT-92 is a Beretta clone and I've not heard the complaints about it that I have with the PT-111 and the 24/7, which are a Taurus design.

mkinla | 10-12-2008 11:31 AM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by skytrooper (Post 1352582) I'd remove the firing pin and clean it. Check for burrs.
Could it be a weak hammer spring?

<SLV> | 10-12-2008 04:28 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by skytrooper (Post 1352582) I'd remove the firing pin and clean it. Check for burrs.
We were shooting WWB. The gun store warned us not to use WWB because the ammo is supposedly factory rejects (never had a problem in my pistols/carbines). The fact that all of it worked in my CZ leads me to believe it was a problem with the Taurus. I'm thinking about taking out the firing pin and modifying it to permit slightly more travel -- but not enough to pierce the primers. I feel bad about getting this friend into a lemon. Maybe I should have him send it to Taurus first.

southfork | 10-12-2008 04:40 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1352079) I helped a friend buy a new 9mm, and I'm beginning to feel like I didn't really do him a favor. He wanted something for around $300, so I steered him to the Taurus PT111 for $316. It is a nice size, simple operation, reasonable ergonomics, and a good price for brand-name 9mm. At the range today at least 2 rounds in every magazine did not fire. The primer strikes were shallow, and in three cases there was no firing pin indentation on the primer. All of the dented primer rounds cycled through my CZ P-01 just fine. Accuracy was also not as good as with the CZ. I'd say the groups averaged up to 50% larger with the Taurus. Anyone else experienced problems with a Taurus 9mm?
I have the PT 92 and the 99, never a misfire, thousands of rounds. Love the Taurus

SWRichmond | 10-12-2008 05:05 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm There are a lot of things you could "do", but if it's new and under warranty screwing around with it would probably void the warranty. Send it back. Light primer strikes are unacceptable.

tanner12oz | 10-12-2008 07:24 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm im pretty close to getting a millenium pro...makes me think twice....especially as a carry weapon

shades2 | 10-12-2008 07:50 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1352127) Wow I never knew this.... Thank God I was stupid enough to get a Glock on the first go round. T
Me too. Worst mistake I ever made buying a GLOCK. Damn thing is just accurate as hell, takes abuse and just keeps working and working and just won't break. Most annoying...

JJ_ | 10-12-2008 08:00 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1353832) im pretty close to getting a millenium pro...makes me think twice....especially as a carry weapon
friendly advice... Don't. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showp...60&postcount=5

Ag_man | 10-12-2008 08:04 PM
Re: Range Report - Taurus PT111 9mm Quote:
Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1353832) im pretty close to getting a millenium pro...makes me think twice....especially as a carry weapon
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1353933) friendly advice... Don't. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showp...60&postcount=5
+1, Glock ,or Springfield XD (my personal choice), are much better choices.

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