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JJ_ | 11-16-2009 02:05 PM
The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood I'll post this in the firearms section considering the source. This is from a thread on another forum by Gabe Suarez about the tragedy at Ft. Hood. - (copied from another fourm - copied from Gabe's foura.) Quote:
What (Really) Killed The Helpless US Military Victims At Ft. Hood. First of all to say the word "helpless" in the same sentence as "US Military" is ridiculous, but there it is. Specially if the sentence is one about the terrorism at Fort Hood, the largest military installation in the nation. The question we need to answer is who killed those American soldiers at Fort Hood. Let's see if we can answer the question without the mental disease of political correctness, or the guts-deficiency syndrome typified by the symptoms of over-tolerance, egalitarianism, and over-sensitivity. First off, Islam killed the victims at Ft. Hood. Islam is a cult of death and violence. Its victims around the world are only at peace when they submit unconditionally to its excesses, or when they are dead. What was it that Hasan said? "We love death more than you love life". What is reasonable man to make of that? All americans should read Robert Spencer's excellent book - The Politically Incorrect Guide To Islam and the Crusades. The message that men like Hasan send us is that the only peace-loving muslim is a "muslim in name only". Their religion demands conversion, or subjugation of the infidels. Just as there are CHINOS (CHristians In Name Only) that blaspheme and sin daily, there are MINOS (Moslems In Name Only) that really don't want to hurt anyone....the problem is in knowing which is which. A Christian-in-name-only will not be a threat to society when he goes "devout". What does Hasan's example tell us about a muslim going "devout"? Whenever I hear someone discussing "tolerance", I would ask them if a Jew could open up a Synagogue in Iran, or if Chuck Smith could hold a Christian church gathering in Syria? No? Then WE are not the intolerant ones are we? Secondly, the US Government killed those victims. The US Government, in its endless quest for egalitarian, feel-good, political correctness and refusal to name the enemy ignored the fact that we are in fact in a Fourth Generational War against Islam's desire to take over the world, and allowed this to happen. Had Hasan been a devout Christian that spoke up against homosexuality in the military, he would have been summarily discharged...maybe dishonorably. Instead, as an outspoken radical muslim that kept contact with extremists, and that hated the west and infidels....questions about him were dismissed, and he was promoted and given choice assignments. Third responsibility goes to whomever was in overall command of Ft. Hood. They are also responsible for the deaths of the victims by denying soldiers the very human right of self defense. A right, incidentally, that is recognized as soon as one leaves the gates of the fort and enters the land of Texas. What might have happened had Hasan's first intended victim been armed with an M9? How many innocents might have been saved had Hasan been shot to the ground between his "Allah Akbar" and his first shot? That their silly regulations make no difference at all (and have never made a difference in such events anywhere or anytime) are clearly evidenced by the fact that Hasan brought his weapons on base with no problems or interference. The last responsibility in a long chain of culpability is Hasan himself. The spear point of a Fifth Column alive, and well, and thriving in America. Allowed to thrive because of an ever-present fear by Americans of being called a racist, or intolerant. A terror shared even more intensely by every poor brow-beaten government worker in fear of their career. Hasan was a clear and present danger to America, that was promoted to Major instead of being summarily dismissed. Hasan was a buck that was endlessly passed, lest any of his commanding officers be thought unkind, insensitive, or horror of horrors....a racist. Hasan, a murdering, cowardly terrorist, acclaimed a hero by other terrorists, did exactly as his beliefs demanded....he successfully made war on the infidels. Lessons learned? There won't be any. The lessons of this event are already known by any who would read this, and will be constantly ignored by those who should read it. Get ready for the next one...Mumbai is coming. __________________ Gabe Suarez

AurumAg | 11-16-2009 05:03 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Great Commentary! Third responsibility goes to whomever was in overall command of Ft. Hood. They are also responsible for the deaths of the victims by denying soldiers the very human right of self defense. A right, incidentally, that is recognized as soon as one leaves the gates of the fort and enters the land of Texas. I vividly recall that during the Gulf-War 1 (prep and entrenching), when Cheney visited the troops, M-16s and M-4s were present, but bolt carriers had been removed.

JJ_ | 11-16-2009 05:26 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Quote:
Originally Posted by AurumAg (Post 2028588) Great Commentary! Third responsibility goes to whomever was in overall command of Ft. Hood. They are also responsible for the deaths of the victims by denying soldiers the very human right of self defense. A right, incidentally, that is recognized as soon as one leaves the gates of the fort and enters the land of Texas. I vividly recall that during the Gulf-War 1 (prep and entrenching), when Cheney visited the troops, M-16s and M-4s were present, but bolt carriers had been removed.
Cheney bring his 12 Guage?:biggrin:

I am me, I am free | 11-16-2009 05:37 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Quote:
Islam killed the victims at Ft. Hood. Islam is a cult of death and violence.
More of the fear-mongering horseshit meme. Try this one on for size: (American) Christianity killed the victims in Afghanistan and Iraq and continues to do so with copious amounts of DU, now and FOREVER. Americanism/Christendom is a cult of death and violence since that is the main export from the US.

TechGuy | 11-16-2009 05:56 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Islam absolutely killed those soldiers. Any attempt to draw christian this or that is just a strawman to draw attention away. It won't be long now until all the muslim sympathizers arrive to add their .02. Religion of peace my ass.

mick silver | 11-16-2009 06:00 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood a country in a war and no troops on a base are armed , why is that

I am me, I am free | 11-16-2009 06:12 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 2028678) Islam absolutely killed those soldiers. Any attempt to draw christian this or that is just a strawman to draw attention away. It won't be long now until all the muslim sympathizers arrive to add their .02. Religion of peace my ass.
Apparently you just don't get it, and because of that you're being used and abused. I'm thinking you've been completely sucked into the fear paradigm. Some people prefer being used and abused. Are you one of those people? You Tube
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S_Goldberg | 11-16-2009 07:01 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Gabe Suarez is a convicted felon. He was found guilty of fraud. Why people continue to post his crap on forums in beyond me.

AurumAg | 11-16-2009 10:12 PM
The Gabe Suarez Credibility Question I followed up on your assertion and found the following: Gabriel Suarez allegedly worked as a gun tactics trainer while receiving Workers Compensation for a slip and fall accident in the SMPD's locker room in 1999. Cheryl Suarez allegedly received payments for work done by her husband through a company she never worked for. The dismissed charges against Comer were based on allegations that he received and disbursed money for Saurez. The Saurez case stemmed from a long-term investigation of Workers Compensation fraud within the police department launched late last year by the department, the District Attorneys Office and the State Department of Insurance. The investigation also has resulted in charges filed against Officer Richard Robert Brulato, who pleaded not guilty in June to two counts of Workers Compensation Fraud. I am no apologist for Gabe Suarez, and if he is truly guilty of this crime, then he got the punishment he deserved. However, my experience as an LEO dictates that these types of Workers Comp cases are so rampant that only "a select few" are ever prosecuted. In other words, there is myriad felonious crime perpetrated on the part of LEOs, most of whom get away with it, and there are others who end up being convicted. Beyond that: What ever happened to time served and being made whole? Further: Can you think of any other famous (un)convicted felons? The felon you know is safer than the one you don't. Finally: In this case, I agree with Gabe Suarez, and I am especially concerned that the "religion of peace" has more felonious and harmful activity in store for domestic America.

S_Goldberg | 11-16-2009 10:40 PM
Re: The Gabe Suarez Credibility Question Quote:
Originally Posted by AurumAg (Post 2029142) I followed up on your assertion and found the following: Gabriel Suarez allegedly worked as a gun tactics trainer while receiving Workers Compensation for a slip and fall accident in the SMPD's locker room in 1999. Cheryl Suarez allegedly received payments for work done by her husband through a company she never worked for. The dismissed charges against Comer were based on allegations that he received and disbursed money for Saurez. The Saurez case stemmed from a long-term investigation of Workers Compensation fraud within the police department launched late last year by the department, the District Attorneys Office and the State Department of Insurance. The investigation also has resulted in charges filed against Officer Richard Robert Brulato, who pleaded not guilty in June to two counts of Workers Compensation Fraud. I am no apologist for Gabe Suarez, and if he is truly guilty of this crime, then he got the punishment he deserved. However, my experience as an LEO dictates that these types of Workers Comp cases are so rampant that only "a select few" are ever prosecuted. In other words, there is myriad felonious crime perpetrated on the part of LEOs, most of whom get away with it, and there are others who end up being convicted. Beyond that: What ever happened to time served and being made whole? Further: Can you think of any other famous (un)convicted felons? The felon you know is safer than the one you don't. Finally: In this case, I agree with Gabe Suarez, and I am especially concerned that the "religion of peace" has more felonious and harmful activity in store for domestic America.
I don't really disagree with anything you have said. With respect to the he served his time aspect. You are correct. However, he has shown his character by his actions. Defrauding taxpayers by feigning disability is one of the slimiest things you can do. It says a lot about a person.

NOOB | 11-17-2009 07:01 AM
Re: The Gabe Suarez take on Ft. Hood Whenever I hear someone discussing "tolerance", I would ask them if a Jew could open up a Synagogue in Iran, or if Chuck Smith could hold a Christian church gathering in Syria? Christians Uphold Long and Sacred Heritage in Syria http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,570298,00.html The Jewish Community of Tehran, Iran #385, 3rd Floor, Sheikh Hadi Street, 1138733317, Tehran Iran Tel: (+9821) 6670-2556, (+9821) 6670-7612 Fax: (+9821) 6671-6429 Email: iranJewish@iranjewish.com Website: www.iranjewish.com Rabbi Yousef Hamadani Cohen, Iran's Chief Rabbi Haroun Yashayaei, Chairman of Tehran Jewish Committee Last updated on: January 18, 2007 Please update us! At least he got this part right Allowed to thrive because of an ever-present fear by Americans of being called a racist, or intolerant. A terror shared even more intensely by every poor brow-beaten government worker in fear of their career.

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