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brewer | 02-15-2008 12:45 PM
My current wheat supply While I'm cruising this forum I'd like share what happened today. I went to the local feed store for a few more bags of untreated wheat... (white spring) to store in mylar/5gal buckets. In this area it's called seed for birds. The store was out of stock and didn't even know if they could get anymore. Next step.. I called my farmer friend/ county commisioner who is very well connected ...."I doubt you could even find a bushel of wheat in this county right now" OOOOKAAAY. I quess I'll wait until July when the next harvest comes. I can't wait to see what a loaf of WONDER WINKY BREAD will be in a couple of months. Good luck folks

Darkside | 02-15-2008 12:51 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Between this and the thread on the General Forum yesterday from Dom about limits being eased resulting in wheat prices skyrocketing 50%.... I think it's time I bought some flour! I found some 50lb. bags of good organic hard red whole wheat flour. How do I store this? I have a celler but it's got a big problem with moisture during the hot summer, which results in mold. What kind of buckets are you using that have mylar? I never heard of that... I use mylar sheets to reflect light back on indoor plants. Thats about my only experience with the stuff

Dominus | 02-15-2008 12:54 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer (Post 969394) While I'm cruising this forum I'd like share what happened today. I went to the local feed store for a few more bags of untreated wheat... (white spring) to store in mylar/5gal buckets. In this area it's called seed for birds. The store was out of stock and didn't even know if they could get anymore. Next step.. I called my farmer friend/ county commisioner who is very well connected ...."I doubt you could even find a bushel of wheat in this county right now" OOOOKAAAY. I quess I'll wait until July when the next harvest comes. I can't wait to see what a loaf of WONDER WINKY BREAD will be in a couple of months. Good luck folks
Thank's for the info Brewer, I copy your post in this thread http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...d=1#post969406 That's really intresting, confirms and support the prices really...

Goldhedge | 02-15-2008 12:57 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Whole wheat 'flour', or any flour for that matter stores best when it's in seed form. Grind your own. Once you grind it, it's shelf life declines. Grind only what you need for the next few days.

Darkside | 02-15-2008 01:02 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 969409) Whole wheat 'flour', or any flour for that matter stores best when it's in seed form. Grind your own. Once you grind it, it's shelf life declines. Grind only what you need for the next few days.
As a coffee aficionado I completely understand that. I only buy whole bean coffee and grind only before brewing and only enough for that one time. If I grind then leave them to sit for even just days the flavor is completely lost! So I will try to find wheat berries instead. That's the term I'm looking for, right? "wheat berries"? Or is there a difference with that and "seed" ?

aybesee123 | 02-15-2008 03:52 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 969407) What kind of buckets are you using that have mylar? I never heard of that... I use mylar sheets to reflect light back on indoor plants. Thats about my only experience with the stuff
You use Mylar bags and stick them in buckets.

rurounikitsune | 02-15-2008 04:18 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 969413) So I will try to find wheat berries instead. That's the term I'm looking for, right? "wheat berries"? Or is there a difference with that and "seed" ?
You want wheat berries. They are the seeds of the wheat plant. I use organic Hard Red Winter Wheat. It has lots of gluten and makes a nice loaf. 2 cups grind into 2 1/2 cups of flour. Bread made from fresh ground whole wheat has a different taste and texture. I find it is far superior.

AMforPM | 02-15-2008 04:18 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Or you can vacuum seal lots of packages to keep moisture out and prevent any insects from growing, and toss the sealed bags in cheap metal trash cans or clean 55 gallon drums to keep rodents out. Determined rodents can get into thick plastic. They holed one of our plastic storage units. We get possums and raccoons as well as mice and rats from time to time and several times did not take care of it fast enough. We wanted to have mercy on mama raccoon and mama possum who left after using the house as a nesting spot for having babies. I am still trying to seal up all the entry points they made! If you have low incidence of rodent problems, the buckets stack better. OTOH the vacuum packages can be sized to be about a month's worth, and the sealer can seal other items you might want to hide away in locations that otherwise might cause them to rust, for example. Also if you plan to bug out in a vehicle clothing and sleeping bags can be vacuum sealed to take up much less space. Our bags are on rollers and we don't plan to put them on our backs, so that works for us, but making stuff pack a lot smaller does not make it a bit lighter. But anyway, that system gives you additional advantages. We used cheap office tables to make a shelving system for filled cans. I was waiting for the harvest to get wheat berries. Looks like that wasn't too smart. We really like corn grits, which are super easy to fix in a slow cooker, rather than the work bread making is, and balance the protein in beans well. We like skillet cornbread too. White corn meal and grits keep very well already ground. They have much less protein than winter wheat, but the beans will provide that. Neither of us likes to bake much but we might use the breadmaker if we have power. It makes very inferior bread... but it is bread. We have enough solar power for the slow cooker.

d00d | 02-15-2008 05:28 PM
Re: My current wheat supply can we invest in wheat on the stock market? I have no clue

ruprick | 02-15-2008 05:38 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Quote:
Originally Posted by d00d (Post 969839) can we invest in wheat on the stock market? I have no clue
DBA is an ETF that is 25% Corn, 25% Wheat, 25% Soy Bean, and 25% Suger....a great food/ag play without messing around directly with futures! Get some - no brainer!

Aproz | 02-15-2008 07:03 PM
Re: My current wheat supply I was just looking around today at some grains for storage. Be prepared.com seems to have everything on back order. The way things looks, maybe it's a little late to be starting preps? :bear_angry:

goddess | 02-15-2008 07:36 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Try bluechip.com or I think you can order from here with out being a member http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs...3%26sortOr%3D1 Ohh sorry about the long link.

Unclad Lad | 02-16-2008 01:24 AM
Re: My current wheat supply Don't forget to look at other grains, for variety and availability. I''m on a rye berry kick right now. If you need to store corn popcorn makes an excellent meal. While not as cheap as the feed store, WinCo has a Bulk section where you can do almost all your preps, as long as you practice caveat emptor, since they're mostly open bins. For an apartment dweller, the 25 lb sacks aren't going to be your best bet anyway.

brewer | 02-16-2008 06:33 AM
Re: My current wheat supply We use mylar bags vac sealed then placed inside the 5gal bucket. Normaly we use 2 bags, about 12lbs each per bucket. This dosen't compromise the entire content of the bucket when you need to use some product. Snip a corner of the bag then pour into 1 gal glass jars etc. for short term storage and use. We've even re-used the bag with some success. Using the mylar bag enables you to use 5gal buckets that may not be food grade. We vac seal the mylar bags with a shop vac rigged up with a small diameter tube. This takes some practice and a helper. We use this system for all our beans, white rice, wheatberries. Good luck

brewer | 02-16-2008 06:52 AM
Re: My current wheat supply I'd like to add that I'm experimenting with some flatbread sprouted wheatberries recipes... sprout the wheat run it thru a hand cranked meat grinder add flour, yeast etc etc. The failed attempts make great dog biscuits.

Tn...Andy | 02-16-2008 07:03 AM
Re: My current wheat supply Or chicken feed, or catfish food......

Quixote2 | 02-16-2008 10:51 AM
Re: My current wheat supply Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 969409) Whole wheat 'flour', or any flour for that matter stores best when it's in seed form.
Do not ask for wheat "seed". You may get it. Seed is often treated with chemicals. Ask for wheat berries or feed wheat. Feed wheat is for animals and is cleaned further, chaff, stones, foreign material, before it can be classified as suitable for human consumption.

Phaedrus | 02-16-2008 10:12 PM
Re: My current wheat supply Consider spelt or durum berries (or flour) as an alternative to conventional wheat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durum Prices may be slightly higher than conventional wheat, check with your suppiers, but they may be more available. Both spelt and durum are just as nutritious and wholesome (if not more so) as conventional wheat and can be used in all the recipes that wheat is.

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