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Pat | 08-06-2009 11:13 PM
Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight ( a few tricks from backpackers ...) Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight http://www.alpharubicon.com/prepinfo/bullminibob.htm

Acr0phobic | 08-07-2009 06:19 PM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight interesting, but i wonder what the sleeping bag is rated for? not very cold i can assure you, anywhere near freezing mark and you will be shivering all night.

damoc | 08-07-2009 06:30 PM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight i once had a sleeping bag that i could fit in a large pocket and used it many times in sub freezing temps the trick is to layer, sleep in your clothing build small shelter and use plenty of grass/leaves and small ground sheet to give plenty of ground insulation.you can travel very light and still be comforatable.

Acr0phobic | 08-07-2009 06:36 PM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight true, living in Canada though a true bug out bag wont even keep you alive if it isn't rate for -10 at least :p

scyth | 08-07-2009 09:57 PM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight True enough - I've got a rig that weighs just under 35 pounds. And, yes. I'm an old backpacking freak. 1 ea. Gregory mid sized internal frame rucksack; Stowed in it are 2 weeks of energy bars 2 weeks tea 2 weeks Emergen-C A Katadyn handheld waterfilter with two bottles No stove or fuel (heavy) 3/4 length Parka Microfiber sweater Microfiber headsock Silk longjohns 2 pairs wool socks 3 season down sleeping bag Bivouac sack Space blanket 100' para cord Light firstaid kit 20 doses heavy duty painkiller Firestarting materials; waterproof matches, Esbits, titanium sparker Signalling mirror Compass and maps Small LED flashlight LED headlamp Spare batteries for above Whistle Knife sharpener 1 roll supertape 1 ea. Woodsman's Pal, with sheath (combines axe, saw and fighting weapon in one.) Toilet paper OK. If I add weapons and ammo - 7.62 carbine and 9mm pistol. With ammo, they add another 11 pounds. So, that is 46 pounds for two weeks And sustainable into the future. More weight than I like, but not unreasonable. I consider this a realistic figure, though I continue to look at ways to pare ounces. scyth

____hoot____ | 08-07-2009 11:04 PM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight If you surround yourself with enough pine broughs, cattails, etc. under a tarp you can survive on much less than a 4 seasons bag, but why do that? Stash a good used cheap bag 20 klics away. So if you have to bug out in good weather you don't have the weight and if you have to bug out in bad weather you have the stash. My BOB weighs 15 pounds with out my weapons.

scyth | 08-08-2009 12:29 AM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight hoot What's in it? scyth

Pat | 08-08-2009 11:09 AM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight My personal B.O.B. is two separate packs, each set up for summer/winter survival with 72 hr supplies. My summer pack weights in at 12 lbs without food/fuel. Winter pack weights in at 18 lbs without food/fuel. These are the "heavy" items. Pack is a Jansport Ultralight Climbing Pack. The winter sleeping bag is a down mummy bag. Shelters is an 8x10 siltarp. Foam roll for pad. Stove is aluminum alcohol type. Flashlight is a coin cell head lamp. Knife is a mini multi-tool. Radio is a mini VHF full band transceiver. Water purifier is a (34-Oz. capacity) Extream XR Purifier Bottle. Except for socks, polypro long underwear, hood / gloves and a nylon rainsuit, I don't carry extra clothing - I dress for the weather. Also not included, is a Ruger 22/45 Standard 4" barrel , very lightweight.

Mosca | 08-10-2009 11:55 PM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight I spend a lot of time off the beaten track and a couple of years ago for another forum I did a five day trip with my bug out bag and gave a day by day report on my return. For me bugging out is always a short duration event and anything beyond say a week I consider sheltering in place. I mention this just for semantics sake. I took the trip in the middle of winter in the most remote and inhospitable location I could find. The following is a list of the items I took in my bug out bag. 6 Tealight Candles. Great for starting fires with. 2 Disposable Cigarette Lighters. To light the candles, and check wind direction when hunting 3 Torches (all take the same batteries) 2 hand held and one headlight all LED 1 Spare set of Batteries 30 metres 3/8� Nylon Rope. To get down rock faces I�m too scared to climb down 2, 30 metre lengths of Braided Nylon Chord 12 Cable Ties. Plastic zip lock ties are great for lashing and binding. 2, 5metre lengths of rubber inner tube cut into a �� strip. For lashing, fire lighting and makes a nice tourniquet 3 metres muslin. For wrapping dressed carcass, or use as towel. 1 Pair Folding Reading Spectacles 2, $50.00 Bills Pencil & Paper 1 Scalpel Blade. First aid uses 2 Roll Plastic Electrical Tape. First aid and trail marking Eye Drops. We have a native pampas grass that can really beat your eyes up and cause infections. Personal Medication. Anti inflammatory for my old arthritic knees Needle and Thread. First aid and sewing up dogs that have been ripped by a pig and general running repairs 1 Condom. To waterproof dressings and carrying water. 1 Tampon 1 Sanitary Pad. Tampons and sanitary pads make a great dressing for big wounds, like to ones bullets or compound fractures make. � Roll Toilet Paper. First aid dressing, cleaning lenses and trail marking. 1 Emergency Locator Beacon. In case I break a leg etc 1 Survival Blanket. Keeping the rain off the fire and so the authorities can say I�m well equipped 1 Disposable Plastic Poncho. Backup to my jacket, wind and rain in combination can be a real killer 1 Whistle. If I need help, an easy way to attract attention Food. 200gram Tin of tuna in oil and 200grams oatmeal/raisin mix per day. 750 mil Bottle of Water 1 Folding Pruning Saw. Really effective saws and often the only way through thick bush 1 Pair of Binoculars. Bushnell 8x25 1 Compass & Topographic Map 1 Swiss Army Knife. Small two blades 1 Skinning knife. 41/2� drop point skinning high carbon steel 1 Sharpening Steel 1 Flounder Spear Head. If I need food I tie it to a sapling with a strip of rubber and spear trout, eels, birds etc Sleeping Bag ( plus silk liner and cover) Down -10 deg., with Gortex cover. Rifle. Kimber Montana .260 Remington with Leopold 3.5-10 power scope 10 Rounds Ammunition, 120gn Nosler bt Day Pack Nike 15 Litre (900 cubic inch) Clothing I will wear 1 Light weight fine Marino wool short sleeved T shirt 1 Medium weight fine Marino wool long sleeved T shirt 1 Heavy weight polar fleece short sleeved T shirt 1 pair polar fleece trousers Gortex jacket Gortex over trousers Gortex mittens Fine Marino wool balaclava 2 Pairs sox one wool, one nylon Lace up rubber boots (gumboots/Wellingtons) Apart from the amount of food and the sleeping bag this is what I usually carry on a day's hunt. With the exception of the rifle I also keep this packed at home ready to go in the event of an emergency. No matter how much I pare down the number of items I take I always seem to return home with items I haven't used.

____hoot____ | 08-11-2009 07:38 AM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight Quote:
Originally Posted by scyth (Post 1857980) hoot What's in it? scyth
A lot like Pat's summer BOB in a soft pack. Ground pad and cloth, 12'x12' nylon tarp, 3 layers of wool clothes, bug dope, knives, candles, rope, twine, flashlites, lighters, water container, iodine, first aid supplies, shortwave am-fm radio, garbage bags for temp waders, fish hooks and line, etc.etc. about 3-4 days of food, ramen noodles, instant rice, instant frioles, instant potatoes, instant coffee, tea, spices, chocolate,hard candies, canned sausages, tuna, potted meat; solid fuel stove and fuel tabs cooking pot and utensils

Professur | 08-11-2009 08:14 AM
Re: Taking the Bug Out Bag Ultralight Add a foil emergency blanket to the mix and those light weight bags do just fine. In case of sub-zero celcius temps, a good snow cave and a candle will bump the temp up more than enough.

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