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Mone | 05-04-2008 10:57 AM
Water tanks- different needs and ideas I dont live on a farm or acreage (not yet). If TSHTF and the water stopped flowing what would I do for water storage? At first I thought waterbed mattresses... folds up when not in use and sits in the hall closet outta sight. One day snooping around ebay I found this: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWN:IT&ih=023 They come in various sizes and have standard garden hose connectors in and out. Decently priced, folds down... bigguns hold 300 gallons. This seems to suit my needs quite well. Does anyone want to share thoughts and products and compare ideas/needs on this subject? Edit: If a moderator/admin sees this please move to the survival forum. Oops.

TechGuy | 05-04-2008 11:02 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Quote:
Originally Posted by Mone (Post 1089996) I dont live on a farm or acreage (not yet). If TSHTF and the water stopped flowing what would I do for water storage? At first I thought waterbed mattresses... folds up when not in use and sits in the hall closet outta sight. One day snooping around ebay I found this: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWN:IT&ih=023 They come in various sizes and have standard garden hose connectors in and out. Decently priced, folds down... bigguns hold 300 gallons. This seems to suit my needs quite well. Does anyone want to share thoughts and products and compare ideas/needs on this subject? Edit: If a moderator/admin sees this please move to the survival forum. Oops.
Those are fine IF you know a problem is coming and can fill them up beforehand. In a suburb setting, you may also want to look at generic 55gal food grade plastic drums. They can store in your garage for a long period of time, and can alternatively be hooked up to rain gutters for a simple rainwater collection system.

Canadian-guerilla | 05-04-2008 11:08 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas looks good but speaking for myself at $215 + tax(?) for 300 gallons i would look for something in smaller sizes that would be portable (if needed) but if you're someone in a rural setting, this could be a nice water fallback

SilverCity | 05-04-2008 11:26 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas 1 Attachment(s) I personally store ~1000 gallons. Many ranchers in my area (small town) store up to 5000 gallons. For outdoor use an opaque dark green or black. If stored indoors (garage), white will do nicely and will allow you to see the water level...I like the vertical 300 gallon tanks. Shipping is a big cost, but you should pay about $1/gal delivered. http://www.plastic-mart.com/?gclid=C...FRiXiQodkVqOUg

Tn...Andy | 05-04-2008 01:33 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas The above plastic tanks are the ones I use for spring reserve.....two 1500 gallon ones. You can buy them at most any farm type store.....the 1500 gallon ones were about 600 bucks last time I looked.

TechGuy | 05-04-2008 01:38 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas http://www.chicompany.net/index.php?...&products_id=3 This is pretty cool. I wouldn't mind having a couple of these myself.

oz in sc | 05-05-2008 12:22 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas We plan to have ainwater catchment at our place,we are int he process of pricing it all out.

silverblood | 05-05-2008 12:32 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Do you have to treat the water for long term storage in one of those big tanks? Or is it practical to just plumb it in to your main supply so there is always a flow of water through it? I am thinking of buying a 500 gallon tank for my garage.

Unclad Lad | 05-05-2008 01:51 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Tech Guy--Interesting product copy they have: Quote:
These Potable Water Storage Drums Can Save Your Life! Made from the same Long-Life Elastomer-Coated Fabric as Zodiac tm and Avon � Inflatable Boats. Super Strong and Lightweight! Excellent for: Disaster Preparedness, Horse or Motorcycle weekends, Construction Sites, Camping, Hunting, Big Shower Supplies, Survivalists, Desert/Mountain Dwellers, Outdoor Group Events, Earthquake Survival Kits, Flood Survival Kits, Relocation and Reconstruction After Disasters, Going to Burning Man! NEW OLD STOCK, Unused, 1 in a Box. All Stainless Steel Fittings with Rotatable FDA White Faucet! Collapses to just 4 inches high! Large Blue Markings: DRINKING WATER ONLY on Dispensing End. These Collapsible Water Drums can save you and your family in a major disaster. Instead of waiting for days and weeks for water, and then only getting a gallon or two, you will have 55 Gallons to keep your family and friends alive for weeks! You won't have to trudge to the supply point and wait for hours in a rationing line �� your water is with you for the duration of the disaster, shower, wash dishes, wash clothes, and be around for the reconstruction, too. In the meantime, these drums are great for outdoor activities, large groups, fast, portable water transportation, easy empty storage/shipping, etc... We know you can't rely on the government to take care of you in a massive disaster like New Orleans, or a major Earthquake in Los Angeles The evacuation of Houston alone took over three days! Major cities are just too big for anyone to support in an immediate disaster situation. Carry your water supply with you and you will survive comfortably without worry.
Are we the pioneers of a hot new trend? Anyone can "Go Green". Will the cutting edge "Go Olive Drab"? :D

walker10 | 05-05-2008 04:45 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Hre's another water bladder that you might be interested in. http://www.waterbob.com/ Another idea would be to save used soda bottles, wash them out and treat with either chlorine bleach or Oxy-Stabile http://www.nitro-pak.com/product_inf...oducts_id=1137 The beauty part of this is, not only are they free, but soda bottles are small enough that you will be able to store quite a few of these in odd ball corners of your home.

Tn...Andy | 05-05-2008 06:05 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Quote:
Originally Posted by silverblood (Post 1090801) Do you have to treat the water for long term storage in one of those big tanks? Or is it practical to just plumb it in to your main supply so there is always a flow of water through it? I am thinking of buying a 500 gallon tank for my garage.
Be very careful how you plumb your main supply thru a tank like this.....they are NOT pressure rated tanks....if you can find one that will seal tight, ( the plastic ones I have have a vented screw on lid that would not pressurize ) your municipal supply pressure will split it wide open and you will have an indoor swimming pool !

ProblemSolver | 05-05-2008 09:41 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Quote:
Be very careful how you plumb your main supply thru a tank like this.....they are NOT pressure rated tanks....if you can find one that will seal tight, ( the plastic ones I have have a vented screw on lid that would not pressurize ) your municipal supply pressure will split it wide open and you will have an indoor swimming pool !
You wouldn't want a direct connect anyway. You need to have the feed line not come into contact with the water in the tank, to prevent backflows. I have two three hundred gallon tanks that I'm installing in a little storage room in my garage. I'm going to run a copper line from the water supply to a float system in the tanks, then connect the tanks together and out through a hose bib. This can then be used to provide water to the garden, or the chickens, and the water will always stay fresh. Plus, with quite a bit of insulation in the little storage room, all that water should keep the temperature moderated, so I can store other items as well (won't get hot and cold like the uninsulated garage). When I'm done with the process, I'll see if I can't post some pictures.

silverblood | 05-05-2008 10:41 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Thanks, TN...Andy and ProblemSolver for the good cautions and ideas.

Tn...Andy | 05-05-2008 02:13 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas I pass it on as a victim of my own experience. I hooked up a 500 sheet metal tank ( old fuel tank ) in my basement to store hot water from my heating system.....as soon as it built up a few PSI, it split the seam in the tank and I had a foot of water on the floor. Duhhhhh......don't know WHY I didn't think of that to start with. My next tank choice was an old 500 gallon propane tank.....3/8" steel wall, tested to 450 PSI by the data plate....built in 1953, got too old for the propane company to certify for propane. It's been doing just fine as a hot water holder for 25 years in my basement..... :D

bl96S5eu | 05-05-2008 02:52 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas http://www.bbtanks.com.au/

ladagerick | 05-06-2008 03:45 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas For a home try a waterbob 100 gal in a sanitary bag supported by your bathtub. (If your taking baths or showers water is not your problem) get one for each tub and maybe extra for neighbors. 29.95 Got one on the shelf

TonyG | 05-06-2008 05:16 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1090175) http://www.chicompany.net/index.php?...&products_id=3 This is pretty cool. I wouldn't mind having a couple of these myself.
Yes, they look very cool. But 6 of them on the back of a half ton pickup wouild be a ton and a half. That's a fair load for the one ton. But they look very sturdy and capable of being re-used if they would be able to be sterilized and dried after use. Quote:
These Collapsible 55 Gallon Drinking Water Drums cost the government over $800.00 each! They are super-strong, high-tech water containers, with FDA Approved Potable Water Lining, stainless fittings throughout, AND they're only 4 inches tall, and super-lightweight when empty –– only 16 pounds! Now you and your family and friends can buy these simple lifesavers for a fraction of their original cost! Six of these drums will fit in the back of a half-ton pickup, when fully loaded with water. That's over 300 gallons of water in one pickup, and you can distribute the water to various sites as you travel, or have enough water to last for weeks.

WearyTraveler | 02-22-2010 11:40 PM
Water tanks- WaterBob or WaterSafe? I'm considering getting a couple of the water storage bags for emergency water in the tub. Watersafe puts one out for about $35 shipped. Waterbob puts one out for about $25 shipped. Both look to be the same. Has anyone used either? Has anyone compared them? Can they be reused? How would I treat them before the 2nd use? I want to buy 5, so cost is a consideration. Thank you in advance!

mightymanx | 02-23-2010 02:01 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas http://www.waterbob.com/Welcome.do;j...170C68219E8CC3 I have not compared them in person. but I have some of these 'BOB's" at my house, and I would not think they are reusable in the "emergency is over fold it up and put it away till next time" sense. I do think if you went on a water gathering trip to top off your current supply in the bob it would be fine but when you are done it probably should not be used again for that purpose. The bob's have a buy 4 get one free promo which makes them about $18 each after shipping which was FAST (3 days from order to door)

Glass | 02-23-2010 02:37 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas I was looking at bladders. You can get large ones for under house, decks etc. 1000+ gals. You can also get portable ones at 50 - 100 gallons. so as big as 5000+ litres or as small as 250 litres. The 250 is about the right size for a bath. You can get square ones for trunks or trailers. Can't suggest a US provider sorry.

etheostoma | 02-23-2010 02:37 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas 2 Attachment(s) http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=609915 pretty cool.

Fatboy | 02-23-2010 08:04 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas [quote=Glass;2194490]I was looking at bladders. You can get large ones for under house, decks etc. 1000+ gals. You can also get portable ones at 50 - 100 gallons. so as big as 5000+ litres or as small as 250 litres. The 250 is about the right size for a bath. You can get square ones for trunks or trailers. Can't suggest a US provider sorry.[/quote If you want something that is that big, collapsable and made to US military spec, give Coleman's a call, they have a "few" of them: http://store.colemans.com/cart/colla...ad903feec8707c

CANUCKFARMER | 02-23-2010 06:43 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas ???????????? The best way to supply and cycle water is to use a container,to pump,to pressure vessel. Water is pumped municiply to your house to as big as container as you can handle,float valve controls supply,pump pressures up house. Continual water circulation and huge emergency supply.

Ishkabibble | 02-23-2010 07:10 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas I'm curious what people would use as a means of storing water in sub freezing temperatures... assume you do not have a source of power aside from what might exist in the wild. Where I live, we see 20 below freezing for months on end. We're not really able to rely on storage that isn't freeze resistant. My strategies are natural... lakes, rivers, snow piles. Though I think I've got a good strategy, I would still appreciate alternatives.

Publico, Pro Se | 02-23-2010 07:55 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJ1972 (Post 2194511) Could you use a 5 gallon food grade bucket with a good sealing lid for water storage?
Waste of a good food storage bucket. Consider the bucket would provide water for 5 days. The same bucket with wheat would provide food for 50+/- days.

TTAZZMAN | 02-24-2010 12:02 AM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas for city dwellers in a shtf situation.......with no warning the first water storage facility is your hot water heater...they normally hold..30-80 gal and have a water tap on the bottom toilet stool tanks (if you have a old one they hold 6 gal...new ones down to 1.2gal) if you have a warning......of course you can fill bathtubs...and containers.. pools and exterior ground water can be utilized if you have a filter like a aqua rain or berkley me personally i think the dual benifit of a large hot water heater give dual ussage......long showers....back up water source that is always up dating.. i know some hard core shtf people that for years have saved laundry bleach bottles to use to hold drinking water .....they figure the bleach residue will purify the water and the container is a good stout opaque unit.

BigJ1972 | 02-25-2010 04:14 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas Quote:
Originally Posted by Prosepublico (Post 2195725) Waste of a good food storage bucket. Consider the bucket would provide water for 5 days. The same bucket with wheat would provide food for 50+/- days.
Consider a good 6 gallon water jug is 10+ Dollars and a bucket and lid is 5+

wallew | 02-25-2010 06:59 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas 2 Attachment(s) 15 gallons each (filled they weigh roughly 90 lbs) so I can move them one at a time with a two wheel dolly. Attachment 87849 Attachment 87850

WearyTraveler | 03-02-2010 09:03 PM
Re: Water tanks- different needs and ideas I just bought 5 * 55 gallon white plastic barrels. They were originally storing / shipping soy sauce. I hope that I can get the salt flavour out! Paid $25 each. Does anyone have a source for quality and inexpensive hand pumps for these?

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