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R MacDonald | 09-05-2007 09:46 AM
Buying Land In The South Of Chile What the hell are we still doing here???? OMG... read THIS: http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ9/Bu..._In_Chile.html

teedub31 | 09-05-2007 10:17 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile My great grandpa told me this saying but I can't quite remember how it goes. If it sounds too good to be true, something something something...... Anyhow, once it was put in the same graces of Amsterdam, I'd say no thanks. Had realatives that had been there (amsterdam) and to Iraq. They said they'd rather go back to Iraq. At least here in my hometown, I don't have to worry about strung out druggies stealing my goods or beggin for spare money or proping me for gay sex or sex with a chick that just woke up from the gutter.

eyeofliberty | 09-05-2007 10:23 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile We have a GIM member, chewy, that splits his time between Oregon and Chile. He speaks very highly of Chile. If I had the means right now, I'd check it out.

electric-amish | 09-06-2007 09:47 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Quote:
Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 724071) My great grandpa told me this saying but I can't quite remember how it goes. If it sounds too good to be true, something something something...... At least here in my hometown, I don't have to worry about strung out druggies stealing my goods or beggin for spare money or proping me for gay sex or sex with a chick that just woke up from the gutter.
doesn't sound like you celebrate diversity. hahahahaha e-a

cigarlover | 09-07-2007 12:04 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile I'll be headed down in Jan/feb for a month.

REV127 | 09-07-2007 12:34 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile So what are Chile's gun laws like?

GoldWampum | 09-07-2007 12:42 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Quote:
Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 724071) My great grandpa told me this saying but I can't quite remember how it goes. If it sounds too good to be true, something something something...... Anyhow, once it was put in the same graces of Amsterdam, I'd say no thanks. Had realatives that had been there (amsterdam) and to Iraq. They said they'd rather go back to Iraq. At least here in my hometown, I don't have to worry about strung out druggies stealing my goods or beggin for spare money or proping me for gay sex or sex with a chick that just woke up from the gutter.
Chile looks great, but I must say, none of this is what I found in Amsterdam or Holland in general. Many things are allowed or were then at least, but none of what you describe took place. If you wanted any of that, you pretty much had to approach it, it wasn't like ghouls were in your face trying to force it on you.

eyeofliberty | 09-07-2007 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 727183) So what are Chile's gun laws like?
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showp...2&postcount=17 Chewy touched on this a bit in a previous thread, but I would like to know more about this, myself. I want to either be able to take all that I own, or know that I can get the same stuff down there.

chewy | 09-07-2007 01:06 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Hi! Ive posted this forum link before but here it is again. www.allchile.net Pretty much should answer all the basic questions about Chile. Dig in, there is a lot of info buried in the various threads. I dont have any reliable info about gun laws here. That is something I will look into. Thanks so much for all of you folks contacting me about Chile, I sense a great opportunity for a good information CD product.

cigarlover | 09-07-2007 05:55 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Hey ,dont you guys beat me down there and drive up the prices!!! Actually, might be a great time for a group buy? Pick up a few hundred acres with like minded individuals looking to relocate..

oz in sc | 09-10-2007 12:50 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Found a few little places in Uruguay. http://www.agro.pvoss.de/68-estancia...ca-Uruguay.htm http://www.historic-estate.com/ I enjoy looking online at real estate in the exotic parts of the world,prices seem much more reasonable than here in the US. Of course you would need to learn spanish and buy a whole new wardrobe to suit your new land Baron status....:D

Goldhedge | 09-10-2007 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 730797) Of course you would need to learn spanish and buy a whole new wardrobe to suit your new land Baron status....:D
And pay particular attention to the real estate laws... In Costa Rica there are squatter's rights. If you aren't there to 'tend the farm' someone could move in and take it over and own it if you are absent and not there to 'evict' them. I'm sure these types of laws exist elsewhere, so doing some DD now could prevent heartache later.

eyeofliberty | 09-10-2007 02:17 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 730887) In Costa Rica there are squatter's rights. If you aren't there to 'tend the farm' someone could move in and take it over and own it if you are absent and not there to 'evict' them. I'm sure these types of laws exist elsewhere, so doing some DD now could prevent heartache later.
Damn squatters better watch out for the Claymores! :D

HistoryStudent | 09-10-2007 02:39 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile The average is about 10 degree high and minus 10 degrees for the low. Great if you are a transplanted POLAR BEAR - but not a Southern Cal Surfer. :emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::emotions16::e motions16:

oz in sc | 09-10-2007 03:08 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile I think IF we were going to buy a 'retirement' home overseas I would look further south than Central America. I started looking there(usual places-Costa Rica,Belize,etc) but have since looked further south. It would be quite nice to own a small place down in the southern hemisphere within a reasonable flying distance. Of course like most I had the impression of near anarchy and banana republics that South America(and Central America) used to have. If you could buy a small place on a little land for under $30,000 why not?People throw that much away on new cars every day. We are in the process of selling our home here in SC and once it is sold we are going to develop our land in NC and eventually move there,however having a retirement/vacation spot in Chile would certainly be nice.

oz in sc | 09-17-2007 10:29 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Thought I would push this back to the top with an interesting link: http://www.byronlutz.com/ I emailed the guy and he gave a pretty good rundown on the area and what it is like,sounds quite interesting and could be a nice place to live in the sun and relax.

eyeofliberty | 09-17-2007 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by oz in sc (Post 740396) I emailed the guy and he gave a pretty good rundown on the area and what it is like,sounds quite interesting and could be a nice place to live in the sun and relax.
There's some really nice looking properties there. My favorite: http://www.byronlutz.com/windmill.htm

oz in sc | 09-17-2007 11:15 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile I would post his email but my internet provider appears to be having a meltdown. He seemed to actually have visited the properties and seen the land and buildings and knows a bit about what would grow on the land. If we could and it is all on the up and up,etc it would be interesting to buy a small farm to have down there to retire to.

oz in sc | 09-18-2007 08:55 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Here is his email to me: Quote:
As goes Argentina, foreigners are accepted here as well as they are in the States -- or better, according to the way we sometimes treat our immigrants. If anything, being an American here sort of elevates your status. Current cost of living is a fraction of U.S. prices. I live an upper middle-class income on less than US$1,000 a month. I could still live well on less than that, but don't have the need to do so. What makes living here cheaper is the basics. My electric bill runs less than $15 a month, car insurance is about $18 a month, taxes on my home are in the neighborhood of $130 a year. Grocery items are comparable to what U.S. prices were in the 1970s -- or cheaper. I'm not old enough to remember when decent table wine was $1 a bottle in the U.S. Last night I cam back home to find that my car's gas tank was leaking gas. The mechanic came and picked up the car, drained the tank, repaired the leasking gasket and refilled it. He charged me 15 pesos (just under five bucks American). That isn't to say that everything is dirt cheap. Used cars, for example, are pricier in comparison to U.S. models. New cars cost about the same as what you'd pay in the U.S., despite the fact that Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota and others have factories here. Gasoline is no bargain either, running about $2.50 a gallon. Political stability is something never certain outside the U.S. -- but I don't see any advantage Chile, Uruguay or Argentina would have over each other. Revolution is not something to worry about, and a Venezuela or Colombia scenario is not likely to happen here -- all three countries rely so much on exports these days that they're forced to be on good behavior, and they're unable to use petroleum as an ace card. The caveat here is economic turmoil, which always seems to happen from time to time (study the history of Argentina, Chile and Uruguay and it's self-evident). The rich have always made money on the ups and downs of the economy -- tucking away dollars when times are good, and buying at a discount when times are bad. The lower and middle classes take the brunt of bad times -- not unlike the U.S. in that respect, but more severe when it happens. Runaway inflation is always a possibility in Latin America, since economic policies are not always sound. That's not something that is devasting if you have U.S. income, but could make things difficult if you're trying to live solely on local income and don't have a year or two of savings to back you up. As long as I have $15 or $20K in the bank I feel secure.
And just to throw another nation into the mix...:D Quote:
Property located in the city Ybycui, 150 km from Asuncion. 130,000 hectares. Totally mechanized. Corral with feeders for intensive fattening of cattle, potential annual rotation of 4,000 cattle. The property has beautiful natural areas and virgin woods, hills, walking paths around the perimeter and thru the land, with water canals and walls. The main house is 450 square meters and there are separate servant quarters, depositories, silos with feeding hoppers, perimeter 8-wire fencing, artesian well 140 meters deep with year round water, bunker with cold storage, plantation of 20 hectares of "camer�n", electrical wiring (220v) throughout property, tractor, harrow (rake), shovel, reeper, seeder, mixer, mills, meat chopper, plowers, US$250,000.
http://www.geocities.com/a57ngel/py/ranches.html 130,000 hectares is about 321,000 acres...

californiajeff | 09-18-2007 06:43 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Quote:
Originally Posted by R MacDonald (Post 724040) What the hell are we still doing here???? OMG... read THIS: http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ9/Bu..._In_Chile.html
I got some good Chinese friends that were born and raised in Chile. I will have to ask them more about it. Just some quick advice, make sure you get Title Insurance when buying land in foreign countries. You could end up with a phony title if some swindler is out to get you.

NOOB | 09-18-2007 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 727194) Chile looks great, but I must say, none of this is what I found in Amsterdam or Holland in general. Many things are allowed or were then at least, but none of what you describe took place. If you wanted any of that, you pretty much had to approach it, it wasn't like ghouls were in your face trying to force it on you.
I was in Amsterdam last year. Cleaner, safer feeling than a U.S. downtown,and very nice people and the food and sights were awesome. The only people that offered anything out of the way were Americans(African Americans living over there to be exact). NOOB

hugo_danner | 10-05-2007 08:23 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile I'm in Korea and have thought about moving to different countries from time to time. Chile is looking better all the time. I don't need 300,000 hectares and all that. I've always wanted to try my hand at a small fruit/olive orchard and a small aquaponics/aquaculture business. It'd be MUCH cheaper than the USA. I just wonder how I'll get my pile of gold and silver there without getting the shit taxed out of it by VAT or whatever.............? Myabe I'll have to sell most of it? I'd sell the silver, anyway.

melbo | 10-06-2007 12:56 AM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Any time one of the sheep gets to looking a little too thoughtfully at the gate mechanism, the rest of the herd tends to try to sway that sheep back into the 'living' mode and the feed bin. Exit the Matrix. Or Tell your buddies you are going to vacation in Mexico. You will almost certainly hear stories of bandits on the beach. RMac. I say go for it. If you can exit now, with your new son. Get out. Much better to live in a 3rd world voluntarily than to have to go through the transition from 1st world to 3rd. The tsunami is coming. we can continue to make sand castles or we can move to higher ground.

rodin | 10-06-2007 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by melbo (Post 765481) Much better to live in a 3rd world voluntarily than to have to go through the transition from 1st world to 3rd.
Now that is a superior quote :coolbeer:

DogFarm | 10-06-2007 12:00 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Well said. Also US Government employees are well paid, well fed, and basically don't have to worry about making money. When TSHTF they will give a crap less about your woes and life here in the US will be that much more crappy. Bueracrats in 3rd world countries are perhaps a little more understanding (depending on which country you visit). Quote:
Originally Posted by rodin (Post 765570) Now that is a superior quote :coolbeer:

chewy | 10-06-2007 02:38 PM
Re: Buying Land In The South Of Chile Quote:
Originally Posted by hugo_danner (Post 765180) .... I just wonder how I'll get my pile of gold and silver there without getting the shit taxed out of it by VAT or whatever.............? Myabe I'll have to sell most of it? I'd sell the silver, anyway.
PM me I can give you a few ideas.

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