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goddess | 03-20-2008 09:59 AM
Walton feed update, again Picked up my stuff yesterday. Delivery driver said it was insane right now. People were scrambling to get food fast, they are 6 weeks behind on deliveries to Salt Lake City (closest major city to them) they are 8-10 weeks out on everything else. Several people who picked up their orders yesterday were shorted because they were out of stuff. Makes me glad that my little town is first on their list because they always have a monthy truck coming up here, but I wonder for how much longer are they going to have food to come up on that truck?:shocked_ma:

cortez | 03-20-2008 10:04 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again i just got stuff from emergency essentials in less than a week. FYI. currntly cooking at a resturant and can get bulk from outr food supplier. http://beprepared.com/Default.asp?bhcd2=1206021877

RealityCheck | 03-20-2008 10:06 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again Oh crap thanks for the heads up. I just ordered a bunch of wheat and other goodies but don't want to wait 8-10 weeks! I think I will cancel my order if thats the case. Or maybe i'll keep it and order more elsewhere to be safe. Can't have too much.

Tn...Andy | 03-20-2008 10:09 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again Go with that last idea......

RealityCheck | 03-20-2008 10:12 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again beprepared is back ordered on most of their stuff. :no_ma: Honeyville is about to make a UPS guy work for his dollar. :bear_w00t:

cortez | 03-20-2008 10:14 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1021111) beprepared is back ordered on most of their stuff. :no_ma: Honeyville is about to make a UPS guy work for his dollar. :bear_w00t:
i only ordered MRE's and that came in less than a week, so not sure about other stuff. get beans and rice from other sources. like to be holding different types of food stores.

Tn...Andy | 03-20-2008 10:18 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again This clip from JW Rawles survivalblog this morning: Jim: I was told yesterday that Walton Feed is out of wheat and will no longer be shipping it to customers. I was also told by a local LDS Bishop's storehouse that the church is out of white wheat and will no longer be providing it because they buy it and it's simply too expensive right now on the open market. The wait time for [hard] red [winter] wheat orders is 3-to-4 weeks. Another LDS cannery in Utah is also out of several items that they typically have on hand. Get your food storage while you can. - Junior

Goldhedge | 03-20-2008 12:52 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again Anyone buy one of the YEAR SUPPLY of the Basics (7 Cases & 8 Superpails) freeze dried foods? http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_...+Superpails%29 Advice? Recommendations? We (wife and I) have a small stash started in the basement. Looks as if this could be a nice addition. Part of the problem is figuring out exactly what one needs. I wouldn't want to be in the middle of some social upheaval desperate and need something.

Derek D | 03-20-2008 01:17 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again I'm still waiting on my order to ship, and I placed it over 5 weeks ago. I spoke with Rick again yesterday, and he said that they were unable to get the hard white wheat from their normal source, but that they had enough to fill existing orders. I hope he was right about that. He said they were trying to secure another source, but until they do, they would not be taking any new orders for it. I would cancel my order and go somewhere else, but I was under the impression that Walton Feed supplied most of the other places. That is why I went with them.:confused_ma: I'm hopeful that the order will ship as promised. Scary times.

goddess | 03-20-2008 03:19 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1021120) This clip from JW Rawles survivalblog this morning: Jim: I was told yesterday that Walton Feed is out of wheat and will no longer be shipping it to customers. I was also told by a local LDS Bishop's storehouse that the church is out of white wheat and will no longer be providing it because they buy it and it's simply too expensive right now on the open market. The wait time for [hard] red [winter] wheat orders is 3-to-4 weeks. Another LDS cannery in Utah is also out of several items that they typically have on hand. Get your food storage while you can. - Junior
This is true, and they are almost out of red wheat too and there will be no more until Fall because the Church grows their own and they won't be purchasing from other sources.

Dave | 03-20-2008 03:36 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again Alternatively, I would start purchasing large supplies of processed flour. It obviously doesn't have the near the shelf life of uncracked wheat berries but if you rotate this supple with your regular use you will at least have a year to two years of flour on hand. This could be applied to all grains you use on a regular basis. Costco and other wholesalers are still relatively cheap. Dave

JC Refuge | 03-20-2008 04:01 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again At this point, there are some panicking food buyers getting wedged into the doorways. Already, most sellers are extended beyond capacity. (FYI, We've still got access to wheat, but at the higher prices. My supplier wanted to not buy anymore wheat at the higher prices, but I suggested to him that he should let our customers decide if the prices represent a fair value.) Just as a quick snapshot for your consideration--I today took my largest single order yet from an individual who says he wants to get a good start on a prep program for himself and a friend--to the tune of $20K. We've got him covered, but I have to tell you--folks are truly beginning to storm the barricades. If they are willing to wait a little extra time for food processors to deliver, everyone to this point will be fine. But the scary thing is--really, a vast majority of people out there have it yet to dawn on them that they need to do something. So many folks have done nothing at all to prepare. When something finally triggers wider realization--it will pretty much be too late for almost anyone to get product at a reasonable price and in a useful timeframe.

AMforPM | 03-20-2008 04:11 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again Most people can probably get wheat locally. Wheatberries are a whole foods (the category, not the company) staple. Try calling co-ops, natural food stores, feed and seed stores, etc for 25 or 50 lb bags in stock. Honeyville still seems to have big bags if you want to order online. The trouble with those 1 year package deals is that they have to be so generic they are not likely to really fit one family in 100 as to food preferences. And a lot of them you better plan on doing a whole lot of baking, as they are whole wheat heavy. Oh you can eat wheat berries as a hot cereal, but as much as is in some 1 year set ups would get really tiresome. They are aimed at people with wood stoves with ovens, grain mills, and usually a wife who is a great baker to make everything from bread to cake, biscuits, pie crust, cookies, etc. Write down what your family ate this week, and start from there. If you ate much fast food, then Mt House can fill that niche. We like steel cut oats with dried fruit for breakfast, but you might prefer dried eggs which some people like scrambled. (I'm spoiled on eggs from our hens, and cannot choke dried eggs down.) We are lucky in that we like beans, and they are an inexpensive protein food that keeps well. We got many kinds for variety from lentils to pink beans to blackeyes to limas. If you like beans ok, they are a good idea. Then think of what vegetables you like. Freeze dried are the best quality long keeping veggies. I got few because I plan to garden, but I did get some. Nuts are a good source of protein and fat, and though they don't keep as long as grain, they keep a good while. It is interesting to me how many people must be buying PM and storage food now... the dealers are swamped.

Tn...Andy | 03-20-2008 08:18 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 1021289) Anyone buy one of the YEAR SUPPLY of the Basics (7 Cases & 8 Superpails) freeze dried foods? http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_...+Superpails%29 Advice? Recommendations? We (wife and I) have a small stash started in the basement. Looks as if this could be a nice addition. Part of the problem is figuring out exactly what one needs. I wouldn't want to be in the middle of some social upheaval desperate and need something.
As Ponce used to say "To be ready is not"......meaning you can't figure it all.... Anyway, looking at the package deal you reference above, I'd agree with AMforPM.....it's aimed at folks that either don't know what they are buying, or folks that are already doing a lot of cooking from scratch.....and I mean SCRATCH....as what he said about grain grinder, and so on....a good grinder will cost 1/2 the price of the unit again. That said, you could supplement normal canned goods with that unit. It is whole grain/bean heavy.....I'd sure want to add some dry milk, some oils, some meats, etc....I guess, just based on calories, one "could" make a year on that package.....but you might die of food boredom in the process :D Soy beans ? Lentils ? What the heck does one do with them ??? (Yeah, somebody will jump in here with a dozen way to fix them...but I've never eaten them before now, and would have to probably be dang hungry to eat them later.....so I don't stock them ) My recommendation is you start with as close as possible to what you normally eat NOW, leaving out frozen foods, in the way of canned and dry goods.....build up 4-6 months worth. Then add some freeze dried stuff, and some of the items off the package. Many of the items in the package you could easily buy local....salt, sugars, shortening powder I wouldn't buy...plain ole Crisco shortening will last 10 years kept in a cool location.......and so on..... Also, a person should figure on doing at LEAST some minimal gardening if nothing more than lettuce/spinach greens, because after 3-4 months of canned/dried foods, you are gonna be craving something fresh like you can't believe.

Goldhedge | 03-20-2008 08:28 PM
Re: Walton feed update, again Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1022005) My recommendation is you start with as close as possible to what you normally eat NOW, leaving out frozen foods, in the way of canned and dry goods.....build up 4-6 months worth. Then add some freeze dried stuff, and some of the items off the package.
Cereals, yogurt (I have a lactose problem w milk) but certain cheeses and yogurt are ok as long as I don't overdo it. Chicken, salads, potatoes, veggies. I've done my own berry grinding before. I don't know which gf got the grinder though. It was a hand crank grist mill. Very handy. You think that grinder is a junker? I'm totally capable of making bread from scratch. I'll pick through these sites and add to what I have already.

TechGuy | 03-21-2008 08:22 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again Ditto from LDS in Houston. No white available, very limited red. Scary.

RealityCheck | 03-21-2008 11:14 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again I talked to Waltonfeed. They have some white wheat in stock, but its basically first come first serve. They will fill existing orders until they run out. They said it will be in stock again but I can't remember when.

RealityCheck | 03-21-2008 11:28 AM
Re: Walton feed update, again What do you guys think of Spring Wheat? Its a red wheat and is supposed to have the highest protien of all the wheats making it good for bread. I got 100 pounds of it but haven't tried it yet. I've only made bread with the hard white wheat and thought it was good but I think having some red wheat would be good for a variety. The Spring Wheat is the cheapest wheat at honeyville ($7 cheaper per bag) and supposedly makes an excellent bread due to it very high protien content. Any comments on the Red Spring wheat?

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