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Awoke | 03-19-2010 09:32 AM
Advice on Climbing vines plants I have a little area in my back yard with lattice that is 8ft high. Last year we tried to grow some climbing vegetables there, but they didn't really take. My wife and I would like to plant some kind of climbing plant that will offer a little privacy for us. Hopefully something extremely low-maintenance, (I have a fair size gardent to tend to already) and something "pretty and green". In this part of Canada we get about 6 months of summer. Any suggestions?

Zilver | 03-19-2010 11:15 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants how about some Grapes one of our neighbors has a trellis setup that looks similar to the picture below on the side of their house. It is a fantastic place to sit/party on a hot summer day/or night. At fall harvest time they fill dozens of baskets with mouth watering grapes. I like their setup so much that I plan to build one. http://www.usefilm.com/images/5/2/2/...522-medium.jpg http://blog.silive.com/homegarden_im...-HM-GRAPES.jpg http://chictrib.image2.trb.com/chine...4/46607617.jpg

mojo273 | 03-19-2010 11:27 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Zilver, that looks like a nice set up. I think one half that size would do me fine.... uhhhh another project added to the list.....

Professur | 03-19-2010 11:44 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants I was going to suggest grapes too. I've got a wild grape on my property and I've been actively trying to kill it for the last 10+ years. Haven't managed yet. Property isn't all that big either. I tear out a huge chunk of it, think I've finally got it licked ... and it pops up elsewhere. Grows (no lie) feet per week. This one's got small sour grapes that are precious little use for anything but birds. Even the squirrels want nothing to do with it. There's something in the area that I haven't caught yet that eats the leaves, but I encourage orb weaver spiders on the property and they keep whatever it is well in check. Well enough that nothing else on the property 'cept the raspberries ever gets touched. But I repeat. This stuff could give kudzu a run for it's money. It just won't die. It's the herpes of the plant world.

Awoke | 03-19-2010 11:47 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants That looks really really nice, but my Lattice is just like a section of wall, about 8fy by 8ft. You think they would take to that? Do you think they would handle the harsh winters?

coopersmith | 03-19-2010 12:05 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Try some cold hardy kiwis. I have a friend whos father used to grow them in Minnesota. www.raintreenursery.com

bjgnome | 03-19-2010 12:16 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke (Post 2234172) That looks really really nice, but my Lattice is just like a section of wall, about 8fy by 8ft. You think they would take to that? Do you think they would handle the harsh winters?
Grapes will train well to what's available. But they won't offer any privacy or act as a windscreen when they drop their leaves for the colder months. Which side of the house is this screen? If it's tending towards the south, then deciduous would be better to allow in winter sun. If it's north side of the house, evergreen will protect against north wind and give year-round privacy...but not sure what will grow all year in your region.

TechGuy | 03-19-2010 12:31 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 2234168) I was going to suggest grapes too. I've got a wild grape on my property and I've been actively trying to kill it for the last 10+ years. Haven't managed yet. Property isn't all that big either. I tear out a huge chunk of it, think I've finally got it licked ... and it pops up elsewhere. Grows (no lie) feet per week. This one's got small sour grapes that are precious little use for anything but birds. Even the squirrels want nothing to do with it. There's something in the area that I haven't caught yet that eats the leaves, but I encourage orb weaver spiders on the property and they keep whatever it is well in check. Well enough that nothing else on the property 'cept the raspberries ever gets touched. But I repeat. This stuff could give kudzu a run for it's money. It just won't die. It's the herpes of the plant world.
Sounds like muscadine vine.... do you live in the south? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscadine They make good jellies.....

Awoke | 03-19-2010 12:37 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by bjgnome (Post 2234215) Grapes will train well to what's available. But they won't offer any privacy or act as a windscreen when they drop their leaves for the colder months. Which side of the house is this screen? If it's tending towards the south, then deciduous would be better to allow in winter sun. If it's north side of the house, evergreen will protect against north wind and give year-round privacy...but not sure what will grow all year in your region.
Actually, it is a divider between my back yard and my neighbors backyard. I know it will shed in the winter, and that's OK, but in the summer it would offer a little more pivacy for us. Nothing major, more decoration, but also blocking us from looking at our neighbors yard, and vice-versa.

crazychicken | 03-19-2010 12:50 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by Zilver (Post 2234118) how about some Grapes one of our neighbors has a trellis setup that looks similar to the picture below on the side of their house. It is a fantastic place to sit/party on a hot summer day/or night. At fall harvest time they fill dozens of baskets with mouth watering grapes. I like their setup so much that I plan to build one. http://www.usefilm.com/images/5/2/2/...522-medium.jpg http://blog.silive.com/homegarden_im...-HM-GRAPES.jpg http://chictrib.image2.trb.com/chine...4/46607617.jpg
How beautiful. CC

diversified2 | 03-19-2010 12:55 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 2234168) I was going to suggest grapes too. I've got a wild grape on my property and I've been actively trying to kill it for the last 10+ years. Haven't managed yet. Property isn't all that big either.
I worked with a physician who was wheel chair bound that would ask me to pick wild grape leaves for her. She used them to make stuffed grape leaves...she said that they were much better than store bought leaves. What kind of GIMMER are you trying to kill survival food???? Joking...

Professur | 03-19-2010 02:01 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 2234237) Sounds like muscadine vine.... do you live in the south? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscadine They make good jellies.....
Montreal. These start green, ripen to blue-purple and stay that colour. Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke (Post 2234256) Actually, it is a divider between my back yard and my neighbors backyard. I know it will shed in the winter, and that's OK, but in the summer it would offer a little more pivacy for us. Nothing major, more decoration, but also blocking us from looking at our neighbors yard, and vice-versa.
then avoid (wild) grape. Very invasive. unless you really want to piss off the neighbour, then go right ahead. Quote:
Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 2234283) I worked with a physician who was wheel chair bound that would ask me to pick wild grape leaves for her. She used them to make stuffed grape leaves...she said that they were much better than store bought leaves. What kind of GIMMER are you trying to kill survival food???? Joking...
The leaves are edible? News to me. When it starts to grow this year (before I start the reign of destruction) I'll photograph it and post the pics. Who know, maybe the missus would like some in her salad. What do they taste like? (and don't say grape leaves).

diversified2 | 03-19-2010 02:15 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 2234383) Montreal. The leaves are edible? News to me. When it starts to grow this year (before I start the reign of destruction) I'll photograph it and post the pics. Who know, maybe the missus would like some in her salad. What do they taste like?
Yes, they are edible, they don't really have much of a flavor, the greeks eat them though. Try googling stuffed grape leaves.I think they are better to eat cooked, think something like stuffed cabbage. Make sure you pick them before they yet too leathery and before they get bug bites. I don't know about eatting them raw or in a salad....I never thought of it. I do know that the doctor washed them, dried them off and put them in the freezer in freezer bags.:ok::coolbeer:

toothfairy | 03-19-2010 02:59 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Dolmades! Yum! Dolmades are delicate parcels made from grape leaves (also known as vine leaves) stuffed with long-grain rice, toasted pine nuts, fresh herbs and seasonings Be careful if you have a dog, though. Grapes are very poisonous to dogs.

lessoil=+pm | 03-19-2010 03:04 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants hops are easy,considered invasive to some; but u can't eatem. good to brew though.

gunDriller | 03-19-2010 03:07 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants it's possible you already have the seeds in your food preps stash. pinto beans, for example. i tried sprouting some of the cheap-o pinto beans that i've been eating. i bought a 20# bag about a year ago and have been getting a lot of mileage out of it. anyway, they sprouted, they're vigorous, and they're definitely vine-ish.

Professur | 03-19-2010 03:39 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by toothfairy (Post 2234458) Dolmades! Yum! Dolmades are delicate parcels made from grape leaves (also known as vine leaves) stuffed with long-grain rice, toasted pine nuts, fresh herbs and seasonings
If you don't hear back from me, it's probably because the missus stiffened me for spending the last 10 years hacking that thing to bits.

Ralleia | 03-22-2010 10:29 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants You might consider bitter melon. It is in the cucumber/gourd family, but the plants are much more hardy and not susceptible to cucumber beetles. The vines grow like crazy. I planted them on the south wall of my living room to cast some shade for the summer (as well as the fruits for cooking, of course!). They grew up all eight feet of the supports I had for them and then kept looking for somewhere to grow next. Strong, sturdy plants, great climbers, hardy, beautiful, and good for you.

Blorp | 03-22-2010 11:21 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Hops maybe? Green and climbs. Just a thought.

Awoke | 03-22-2010 11:34 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Yeah I mean, I don't even care if it bears any fruit or vegetable. I just want some greenery growing on the lattice, but I want low maintenance stuff. I want to plant it and walk away, and do nothing else other than water it when I water my veggies. Something simple. I am attracted to the grape idea so far. Any other suggestions?

millwright | 03-23-2010 08:53 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants 3 Attachment(s) Margarita jasmine is what you want. I planted mine on a 8 foot by 8 foot trellis a year and a half ago. Stays green and keeps its leaves through the winter here in zone 6 no problem . I spent over a year researching this . I wanted a vine that kept its leaves year round, and i did not want it to be invasive. It blooms beautiful yellow flowers 3 times a year. My vine has not only lived thru 2 cold winters, but it has remained completely evergreen. Trust me, this thing is hardy as hell. Oh and it is dear resistant. Its common name is Carolina Jessamine Gelsemium sempervirens 'Margarita' It can be found here among other places. http://www.lazyssfarm.com/Plants/Vines/vines.htm And here http://www.forestfarm.com/product.php?id=2010 Here is some info from the website at Lazyssfarms INTENSELY FRAGRANT form of the species. May repeat bloom in Fall. Semi-evergreen in colder zones. A PHS Gold Medal Award winner. 'Margarita' is a superior seedling selected by Don Jacobs of Eco Gardens in Decatur, Georgia. With its more prominent, much larger flowers, it is superior in every way to the species so Jacobs named it for his wife. He had no idea that it would survive winters to minus 25 F. as it has in Pennsylvania. Styer Award Winner from the Pennsylvania Horticultural Society. Soil: Any but wet H: 10-15' W: Varies w/ support B/M: Yellow/early spring Here are some pics of my vines

jaybone | 03-24-2010 10:24 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Margarita jasmine looks like a great choice, does it grow quickly?

Pyramid | 03-24-2010 10:48 AM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Virginia Creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia) would be a good native vine for your area. It's not edible, but would be very low maintenence and has good fall color. http://media.growsonyou.com/photos/p...ia_Creeper.jpg Edit: I like the grape idea also if you could find a strain appropriate for your climate.

millwright | 03-24-2010 07:50 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants Quote:
Originally Posted by jaybone (Post 2241243) Margarita jasmine looks like a great choice, does it grow quickly?
Mine grew to ten feet in one season. The plants were 10 inches tall when i planted them. Im telling you, this stuff is awesome. Stayed green all winter long.

Awoke | 03-24-2010 10:21 PM
Re: Advice on Climbing vines plants The Margarite Jasmine looks a little too sparse for what I want. I want something a little thicker, of you know what I mean. I appreciate the input though! I like the look of the Virginia Creeper! Nice and thick. That might be just what I'm looking for...

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