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sam | 02-17-2007 03:03 PM
one gun poll Trying again.

Mike_Templar | 02-17-2007 03:08 PM
Re: one gun poll I'm guessing by this you mean, if you could only own one gun what is it? This is easy. Pistol: 1911. My personal choice is Springfield TRP Rifle: .308 bolt action. Maybe 700 Remington or a Steyr.

sam | 02-17-2007 03:15 PM
Re: one gun poll I didn't put the 12 ga choice in Italics purposely. I wasn't trying to subtlely influence votes. Really, I don't know how it happened ........

GoldRocks | 02-17-2007 03:19 PM
Re: one gun poll A revolver. Less moving parts. Easier to keep clean. Easier to conceal than anything long barreled.

mkinla | 02-17-2007 03:28 PM
Re: one gun poll Sam, A word of advice, once you get the gun bug you never stop at one, but if I was going to have just one gun it would be a 12 gauge. Mark

sam | 02-17-2007 04:15 PM
Re: one gun poll mkinla- Quote:
A word of advice, once you get the gun bug you never stop at one
Yeah, I know. :D In real life my first gun 35 years ago was a Colt New Frontier .22LR, w extra 22 MAG cylinder. Next a Remington 1100 12 ga. Next a Winchester bolt .270 (the ol reliable one, I forget the model) Next a Ruger .357MAG SA (Blackhawk, was that the name?) Next a Ruger .357MAG Security Six Next a Ruger 1022 etc etc etc etc etc.................... Most have been replaced with multiple something elses. Still have the Security Six and Rem 1100 though. dtnwn _________________________________ sold stuff I wish I hadn't, especially a Charles Daly SS 20 ga.

ForeverInDebt | 02-17-2007 04:34 PM
Re: one gun poll I believe that 12ga. is probably the most versatile, and probably the best choice for a "single gun" scenario. The disadvantage is the bulk of the ammo. I'd say a semi-auto .22lr rifle would be good for a single gun as well. Of course, I have more than one gun myself, though. :smile: If I had to pick 3 of them, I'd select my SKS, my 1911, and my .22/.410 Rossi. Edit: I might consider switching the 1911 with a .357 revolver.

Masonic Plot | 02-17-2007 05:03 PM
Re: one gun poll no doubt what I would pick, .44 magnum with an 8 3/8 inch barrel and a high powered scope. you can do anything with that weapon and its easy to pack for hands free hiking.

sindgefallen | 02-17-2007 05:11 PM
Re: one gun poll Guns are bad and should be outlawed. I mean like they hurt people and stuff. The government should like keep these guns out of your hands cuz like you might hurt somebody because you have one like my sociology teacher like told me you were more likely too or something? But anyways when I don't like things i just hope that the guv will like totally make a law about it yeah!............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....................................:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: ha ha

Satyr | 02-17-2007 05:15 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by sam (Post 512689) I didn't put the 12 ga choice in Italics purposely. I wasn't trying to subtlely influence votes. Really, I don't know how it happened ........
You are seeing it in italics because it's the one you voted for. Anyway, I voted for the semi-auto hand gun. If I had to be on the move in a SHTF situation, I'd want something that was easy to hide and light to carry. I would expect most confrontation to be at close range in that type of situation anyway.

R MacDonald | 02-17-2007 05:15 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonic Plot (Post 512754) no doubt what I would pick, .44 magnum with an 8 3/8 inch barrel and a high powered scope. you can do anything with that weapon and its easy to pack for hands free hiking.
And conceal if necessary. Birdshot rounds can also be used for flying quarry. All the other toys can be easily obtained with just one concealable, reliable sidearm. Do you like his rifle??? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...up_soldier.jpg

Maddie | 02-17-2007 05:17 PM
Re: one gun poll I said battle rifle. I know it's not the most practical all-around gun, but I don't just own guns for a SHTF scenario, and if I can only have one gun, it's going to be a .308. More specifically, it's going to be an M14, an M1A, or a FAL.

sindgefallen | 02-17-2007 05:20 PM
Re: one gun poll no seriously though If'n you mean if tshtf then a 12g because it is multi purpose with a plethora of ammo choices and and ways to modify ammo to fit your needs. whether bird shot or slug you can create loads that can help in various scenario's. If'n you mean just to have one then a springfield 1911. 45 acp. especially an automatic for me because the commie guv here is trying to pass a new idiot law to make as of 2010 all semiautomatic firearms be required to make a laser imprint on every shell casing fired with the firearms owners personal info. The tech for this doesn't even exist nor is it on the r & d. It is just a way to prohibit semi auto firearms from being imported or sold in the kommunist republik of kalifornia. So I need to get one A S A P!

mkinla | 02-17-2007 05:29 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by sindgefallen (Post 512769) no seriously though If'n you mean if tshtf then a 12g because it is multi purpose with a plethora of ammo choices and and ways to modify ammo to fit your needs. whether bird shot or slug you can create loads that can help in various scenario's. If'n you mean just to have one then a springfield 1911. 45 acp. especially an automatic for me because the commie guv here is trying to pass a new idiot law to make as of 2010 all semiautomatic firearms be required to make a laser imprint on every shell casing fired with the firearms owners personal info. The tech for this doesn't even exist nor is it on the r & d. It is just a way to prohibit semi auto firearms from being imported or sold in the kommunist republik of kalifornia. So I need to get one A S A P!
Go to www.calguns.net you'll be surprised at how we're LEGALLY getting around the laws. I just put a bullet tip release on my AR-15 http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/images/bullbutt1.jpg

sam | 02-17-2007 09:45 PM
Re: one gun poll Sukhoi_fan- Whatever one gun you choose is fine with me. I submit, however, the notion that the most important reason for owning at least one gun is a matter of principle...... I consider it an able-bodied citizen's civic duty. dtnwn

<SLV> | 02-17-2007 10:12 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 512774) Go to www.calguns.net you'll be surprised at how we're LEGALLY getting around the laws. I just put a bullet tip release on my AR-15 http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/images/bullbutt1.jpg
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "bullet tip release"?

Silver_Fox | 02-17-2007 10:35 PM
Re: one gun poll 1 Attachment(s) This is a fine shooter and handles very well. Have had lots of fun with it.:emotions16:

kolya | 02-17-2007 10:49 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonic Plot (Post 512754) no doubt what I would pick, .44 magnum with an 8 3/8 inch barrel and a high powered scope. you can do anything with that weapon and its easy to pack for hands free hiking.
I agree if you could only have one gun this would be the best choice. But if you could have a pistol and rifle I would go with: Remington 700 in 308 Rock River Arms Pro Carry 1911 :adore:

<SLV> | 02-17-2007 10:57 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by kolya (Post 512988) I agree if you could only have one gun this would be the best choice. But if you could have a pistol and rifle I would go with: Remington 700 in 308 Rock River Arms Pro Carry 1911 :adore:
How about a compromise: Thompson Center Encore pistol in .308: http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/firea...ls.php?ID=4962

WAoG | 02-18-2007 01:37 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by mkinla (Post 512696) Sam, A word of advice, once you get the gun bug you never stop at one, but if I was going to have just one gun it would be a 12 gauge. Mark
I will second that. You can do just about anything with a really good 12 gauge. Guns are a lot like silver and ammo. I do not know how many or you could say how much I have. I lost count:-)

LikeGreen | 02-18-2007 01:45 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonic Plot (Post 512754) no doubt what I would pick, .44 magnum with an 8 3/8 inch barrel and a high powered scope. you can do anything with that weapon and its easy to pack for hands free hiking.
Don't know much about guns but I'm researching for my first purchase. Would this be a .44 magnum revolver like the Dan Wesson .44 with the 8" or something like a Desert Eagle semi-auto? I have a very particular interest in whatever handguns I get. My handgun needs are for, first, dealing with anything that comes up in and around my apartment, though I am looking for a shotgun for that kind of thing. My area of the city is OK, but there are significant bad actors around. If things get out of hand and there is a threat of my door being breached, I want to be able to stop it right there. But more importantly I'm thinking of a New Orleans scenario, where my urban area is an abandoned war zone. I want something, or something(s) that will provide me with the best protection to get out of here and, say, hike up to Connecticut or NJ, but at least protect myself while haul my ass out of Washington Heights, NYC. A big .44 might have the power I need and a scope would help a lot in that scenario. But I think something a little easier to get in and out my pocket/knapsack might be good, as well. I also wonder about re-loading if I'm in an urban firefight. I don't know anything about guns, but isn't a semi-auto easier to re-load than a revolver, assuming I've got a bunch of pre-loaded cartridges? I'm thinking something big and powerful like this .44. But also a one or two smaller handguns. I'm also thinking something super-easy to use in case I need to arm a companion. If I had to take someone on that hike with me who I might want to arm with something simple to use. LG :smokin:

LikeGreen | 02-18-2007 01:56 AM
Re: one gun poll That would be an important feature in my urban survival scenario? LG :smokin:

LikeGreen | 02-18-2007 02:05 AM
Re: one gun poll An 8" .44 with a scope seems a fairly large item to be swinging around or carrying in hand for a long distances. I guess that's why another smaller one will be part of the collection also. Perhaps a smaller .44 so that I only need to keep one size ammo around for both pistols? I'm just figuring this stuff out. Dunno much about guns at all at this point. (so far) If you have better suggestions for a hike out of the city, say in a post-tsunami crisis, or a post-hurricane multi-day power outage flooding, riot scenario, I'm all ears. LG :smokin:

____hoot____ | 02-18-2007 04:45 AM
Re: one gun poll Probabally I am the only one here that had to make that choice in real life. Thirty years ago I worked a few summers on track gangs for the Alaskan Railroad. We would go out and live in the bush in 15 man crews on work trains in the spring summer and fall repairing the tracks between Seward and Fairbanks. There was always the threat of the bear problem or a crazy moose and the guys liked to be armed. The government tried to stop that, but nobody would work for them and they had to comprimise. The deal was a one gun rule. I picked up a beat-up typical Alaskan "survival gun" a camper Savage 24 with 22 over 20 gauge with 20" barrels. Might not be the "one gun" I would pick in all situations, but it was light about 5 and 3/4 pounds and handy and got me a few wild game meals to suppliment the poor government fare that was mostly out of date stuff from the service bases up there. Glad I did not have to face down any bears with a 20 gauge slug, but I figured that I could put the 22 past them as a warning shot and that would send most of them packing.

Masonic Plot | 02-18-2007 10:07 AM
Re: one gun poll id say with a 44 mag long barrel and a glock 21 .45 youd have lots of fire power and some distance fire power with the 44. And both would fit easily in a pack. If no rifle is available then these two would be good choices in my opinion. Take it slow and think it over the world isnt gonna end yet, but I would certainly be making preps right about now and at least be considering them. The most important thing in ANY gun purchase is that you put it in your hands and see how it feels. For me, there is nothing sweeter than a glock and the smith and wesson model 629 44 mag. I also like baretta 92fs. The military uses them, they are good handguns. They dont make a 45 but you can get a 9mm and buy an extra slide and barrel for 125 bucks that will convert it to a .40 sw. Two hand guns in one. I have that set up and it works great for me. They have 15 round clips, 16 with one in the chute. Thats a lot of shots. I like 44 magnum revolvers. I dont know anything about those 44 autos, I would stick with a revolver. I like the long barrel because I can hunt better at a distance with it. I dont know of any complaints about 44 magnums, you may hear some, overall it is a dependable revolver with as much fire power as any weapon out there. For a semi auto I would stick with glock, I would get a full size 45 which is glock 21, in my opinion that is the most ideal handgun glock makes. 13 round clip, 14 with one in the chute. Some guys like the compact versions glock makes, I dont care much for them, I want a full size handgun in my hands at all times. I can conceal a full size just fine if the situation calls for it. As for the question of ONE GUN, a battle rifle would be nice, but it is impossible to conceal, thats the downside, that being the case it would come down to a glock 21 .45 or a 44mag revolver. If im staying in the city and have to defend myself in that situation, its the glock 21 hands down. if im heading to the hills, in a survival situation, there is no doubt it is the 44mag long barrel and scope.

mtnman | 02-18-2007 10:54 AM
Re: one gun poll I guess I�m the only one who voted for the .22 bolt action rifle! Think about this� I can carry 1000 rounds in my pockets. I can dot your eye at 100 yards. I�ve killed everything from doves to turkeys to coyotes to deer with a .22, there deadly if you know how to shoot. In a SHTF scenario my little .22 is a food getter and if needed it will kill a man (Head shots). In a Civil War setting use it to kill and enemy soldier and take his battle rifle.

LikeGreen | 02-18-2007 11:00 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonic Plot (Post 513191) id say with a 44 mag long barrel and a glock 21 .45 youd have lots of fire power and some distance fire power with the 44. And both would fit easily in a pack. If no rifle is available then these two would be good choices in my opinion. Take it slow and think it over the world isnt gonna end yet, but I would certainly be making preps right about now and at least be considering them.
Thanks MP. That sounds about right to me. I'm in no hurry and I ain't rich. Plus in NYC you can't be in a hurry. I have a lot of paperwork and waiting ahead. I don't care about concealing very much. Right now, if I've got my guns out of the house and something is going on, it's SHTF and all the better if someone sees I might have something. NYC has about ten carry licenses out there, total. I keed, but you know. I did not like the looks of the mini-glock. I also plan to get a shotgun and a rifle. The shotgun is definitely for when I need to clear my door of some trouble (not likely, but when/if, I don't want to be sitting prey) Again, not rich, but I'm starting. I have one other question: What do you guys think is the easiest, best gun to, if you are in a real jam, hand to someone who isn't familiar and say "here. safety, trigger, don't point at me or you, just any bad guys?" This is a money thread, BTW. LG :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

sam | 02-18-2007 12:04 PM
Re: one gun poll LG- Any medium frame .357 Magnum DA revolver, that will accept fixed glow in the dark sights, loaded with 38 Special. Those three dots make sighting somewhat intuitive/automatic. Get an extra hammer, grind the spur off, see if it will fire all your ammo. If yes, great, you have a simple to operate (double action only, no safety) reliable, fairly powerful, low recoil, low muzzle jump, defensive weapon. If the trigger isn't wide, smooth, and rounded, have it modified.

sam | 02-18-2007 12:18 PM
Re: one gun poll LG- Had a look at Trijicon's web site. Didn't see any glow in the dark rear sights for revolvers, .... too bad, wonder why not....

Masonic Plot | 02-18-2007 01:33 PM
Re: one gun poll MTMAN does make some excellent points. Any gun, even a 22 will work if you know how to shoot the damn thing.

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mkinla | 02-18-2007 02:35 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 512959) Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "bullet tip release"?
Instead of using your finger to release the magazine you use a bullet tip. A bullet tip is considered to be a tool. In this configuration you can use 10 round magazine and be within the legal constraints of the law.

Halophyte | 02-18-2007 03:06 PM
Re: one gun poll My choice would be the German designed 22 caliber Earsplitzenloudenboomer. A 30'06 case necked down to 22 cal.

____hoot____ | 02-18-2007 08:44 PM
Re: one gun poll LG for that back-up gun that you can pull out of your pocket, hand to anybody and just say point it and pull the trigger; I have an old H&R 9 shot 22 caliber double action revolver. It is a Model 922 and cost me $50 at a pawnshop ten years ago. They are a quality all steel 21 ounce gun with a 4" barrel. It will shoot better than I can hold it which means a 4" group at 25 yards with the Winchester hi-speed copper plated solids that it likes. I can carry it and a 109 rounds of ammo at the same weight penalty as a average 9mm with a full 15 round magazine, and can put out seven times the number of rounds and three times the footpounds of total energy in a fight. H&R went out of business about 20 years ago but you can still find a lot of the 22 revolvers they made because they don't break. huummmm, going to have to pull the scales out and do some figureing; since most 44 magnum revolvers weigh 51 ounces or over with six rounds of ammo and produces about 6000 foot pounds max of total bullet energy. I wonder how much energy my little 22 and the extra weight in ammo would throw down range. A box of 50 22 shells weighs about 6 ounces, so that would be about51oz.-21oz.= 30/6 = 5 times 50 = 250rounds at say 120 foot pounds a round~~~~~30,000 foot pounds of energy vs 6000 foot pounds of energy for the loaded 44 magnum~~~~~

buff01 | 02-18-2007 11:35 PM
Re: one gun poll I chose semiauto handgun because I value stealth above all else. You can't walk down the street with a shotgun and not get noticed. Flying under the radar is the best way to keep safe, IMO.

MOD1 | 02-18-2007 11:38 PM
Re: one gun poll If it has to be one gun ... man, is this tough - battle rifle in .308 (FAL, M1A, HK etc.) - several magazines and spare parts. Things break at the worst possible time. Tough Poll - everyones situation will be a little different. MOD 1 If you have to make a hole - make a big one!

twenty4karat | 02-19-2007 06:22 PM
Re: one gun poll No matter what gun you choose, you must be proficient with it (practice, practice, practice). Also keep in mind the availability of ammo. 22LR, 9 mm, .38, 12 ga. (buck shot & slugs), .223 (5.6 Nato), 7.62x39 (AK, SKS), .308 (7.62 Nato). These are widely available thanks in part to NATO. There is plenty of surplus rounds out there. You can pick up cases of each of the above and just like shopping at Costco, the more you buy, the better the price. Also when the SHTF you'll be more likely to find these rounds to barter with. I must go back to my opening sentence: No matter what gun you choose, you must be proficient with it (practice, practice, practice). Because no matter how good of a shot you become it'll be a different scenario when the target is not paper and it's shooting back. KNOW YOUR GUN! It must become an extension of your self because you won't have time to try and remember such incidentals as how to turn the safety off. Maranatha, :smile:

Prometheus | 02-19-2007 07:22 PM
Re: one gun poll I can do a 1 rifle poll or 1 pistol poll,but one gun only? I went with battle rifle, but it's hard to conceal one so it's a toss up with the duty pistol.

Big_Rob | 02-24-2007 12:43 AM
Re: one gun poll AK47 all day long

mayhem | 02-24-2007 05:31 PM
Re: one gun poll I have to go with SF and Big_Rob. In a one gun situation you don't want to have to wait till they are close to be sh00ting. Personal preference M1A. Only sixty parts, easy to maintain and you can neglect it without it jamming up. The AK is also a gem for the same reasons. The M1A will reach out and touch someone from a bit further distance though. They need to make a handgun that will shoot backwards. That way I can be popping rounds while I run to the truck to get the SKS. :rofl: :rofl: m

Ghost Recon | 04-01-2007 10:16 AM
Re: one gun poll One gun....I would say a compact/subcompact handgun. Carrying concealed is the bottom line for me.

AgAuGal | 04-11-2007 04:47 PM
Re: one gun poll I wanted to select 20ga but not an option so voted 12ga. Can't handle 12ga at my age, not sure I could 'handle' it when I was younger.

MKS | 04-16-2007 12:23 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 513830) I chose semiauto handgun because I value stealth above all else. You can't walk down the street with a shotgun and not get noticed. Flying under the radar is the best way to keep safe, IMO.
That's pretty much the reason I chose semiauto handgun.

____hoot____ | 04-16-2007 11:38 AM
Re: one gun poll Rossi makes a single shot action that takes shotgun, rimfire, and rifle barrels interchangeablly. Twelve and twenty gauge barrels; 22, 22 magnum, and 17 rimfires; and 223,22-250,243,270,308,and 30-06 etc.etc. drilled and tapped rifle barrels. Will sell you a three pack of what you want with one action for under $400 in stainless. Also sell it in a shortened slimed-down youth model for us short armed people. Handy and very light weight too.

teedub31 | 04-16-2007 01:45 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by R MacDonald (Post 512765) And conceal if necessary. Birdshot rounds can also be used for flying quarry.
Not to sound negative, cuz I love my SW 629 Classic, but birdshot rounds in a pistol are nothing more the snake killers. You might starve to death if you plan on using those rounds to take flying animals. They have a effective range of about 15-20 feet. A bird will usually flush at that range and you have yet to get it in your sights. All of a sudden, that bird is 40 feet away giving you the bird.:laugh_m:

Anty Ep | 06-13-2007 06:16 PM
Re: one gun poll-- calls for "survival" situation Quote:
Originally Posted by buff01 (Post 513830) I chose semiauto handgun because I value stealth above all else. You can't walk down the street with a shotgun and not get noticed. Flying under the radar is the best way to keep safe, IMO.
Shooting barbarians at 500 yards with a .308 rifle is the best way to keep safe in my humble opinion. If the poll were for "life as it is and most likely will be" then my answer might have been different. I suppose if I could have one gun for the rest of my life, I would choose a shotgun, if for no other reason that I could shot shot or slugs, and use it for hunting food or men, as needed. A handgun is a strictly defensive weapon. I dont like the idea of life playing defense. lol

sliver | 06-20-2007 11:31 PM
Re: one gun poll http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gun.jpg/427px-

BeeYourself | 09-25-2007 02:19 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
A word of advice, once you get the gun bug you never stop at one
Ain't that the truth! I say pistol, because you can't carry a shot gun into a corner store without freaking out the people. If you could, then 12 gauge, but since you can't, pistol.

RiverRat | 09-25-2007 02:35 AM
Re: one gun poll :rolleyes_m: Nothing beats a 12 gauge shotgun for versatility...especially if you roll your own ammo. If TSHTF I'd choose my 12 gauge pump loaded with No #1 Buckshot and Slugs over my AK47 or my Mac 11 if it came down to survival in an Urban Warfare firefight scenario. After putting away a few scum bags I'd switch to No#4 shot and go out and hunt supper... You said one gun only...so that's it. I own every gun on the list,but for riot control nothing beats a shotgun. :rolleyes_m::rolleyes_m::rolleyes_m:

J.D.Rockinfeller | 09-25-2007 09:58 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by gasilat (Post 512742) First...move far away from danger before shtf happens :smile:
That is the MOST important part of survival prep imo....:wink: what the hell good id all the "preps" in the world if your in the middle of a fking war zone???? Get out of dodge first...THEN get your preps.

GoldWampum | 09-25-2007 10:04 PM
Re: one gun poll There is no one gun. That's why most of us have more than one. However, if I could only have one it would be the 12 gauge. It's the most versatile.

The Argent Dragon | 09-25-2007 11:59 PM
Re: one gun poll Pistol .........it's easy to carry and every Officer has one ~ there's a good reason for that. :wink:

TruAuBug | 10-07-2007 02:00 AM
Re: one gun poll I went with the 12ga because its got dual purpose! TAB

Squirrel Bait | 10-07-2007 09:53 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by TruAuBug (Post 766355) I went with the 12ga because its got dual purpose! TAB
Good choice. Now, have you thought about what ammo to have handy. My buckshot of choice is #1 buck rather than 00 buck. This gives me 15 30 caliber balls versus 9 33 caliber balls. I actually keep both and at close range the 00 buck is probably better, but as the distance increases it's nice to have the extra balls flying around. 2 cents SB Don't forget, it's still nice to have a pistol around too, but they do take more skill.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 10-07-2007 11:14 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonic Plot (Post 512754) no doubt what I would pick, .44 magnum with an 8 3/8 inch barrel and a high powered scope. you can do anything with that weapon and its easy to pack for hands free hiking.
Can it kill a grizzly?

DBcooper | 10-07-2007 06:51 PM
Re: one gun poll Guess my choice. Firm believer now that i own one.. However what hasnt been mentioned as far as survivalist is the 410 has many shots and very useful. YouTube - TOP 10:Combat Rifles - AK 47 (NO.1)
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DBcooper | 10-07-2007 07:05 PM
Re: one gun poll Buy one buy two... Buy for the whole family. YouTube - ak 47 shopping chanel
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SilverCity | 10-07-2007 09:36 PM
Re: one gun poll 1 Attachment(s) This would be my choice...

mtnman | 10-07-2007 09:37 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 766655) Can it kill a grizzly?
Yes, the 44 magnum will kill a grizzly. IMO it is the ONLY revolver caliber to use for bear, many bears are taken using that round every year.

REV127 | 10-07-2007 09:50 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 767412) This would be my choice...
That's a nice .308 you've got there.

SilverCity | 10-07-2007 10:00 PM
Re: one gun poll Saiga conversion ~ $600

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Yeller' | 10-07-2007 11:03 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 520474) AK47 all day long
Preach it Big Rob. For me? 30-40 round Bushmaster AR15 with lots of extra loaded mags (or AK47 if you're so inclined)... Close second place, 12 gauge pump. Third, semi-auto 9mm or .45 Remember, if the SHTF, likely "ability of concealment" may become a mute factor. I know I won't give a crap Sh!t - Fans - All bets off. ONE weapon? Battle rifle... no brainer.

Yeller' | 10-07-2007 11:12 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonic Plot (Post 512754) Scoped .44 magnum- you can do anything with that weapon
Till your 6 rounds are gone... with an AR I can fire 6 X 6 at you much more accurately before you can even think about reloading. Or unless you have to shoot over 100 yards... Or unless you need to get on targets quickly with little recoil... Or unless you need to punch through flak jackets or penetrate light barriers... Or unless it's SHTF and you need to scrounge/barter/steal ammo from govt. thugs or NATO... Other than that it's Dirty Harry pimp-o-rific!:D

Metalophile | 10-09-2007 12:28 AM
Re: one gun poll I chose battle rifle, in particular, my M1 Garand.

<SLV> | 02-03-2008 04:43 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalophile (Post 769131) I chose battle rifle, in particular, my M1 Garand.
Hate to carry that on a hike.

SilverCity | 02-03-2008 05:09 PM
Re: one gun poll Every time I see one of these polls I get flummoxed... Weapon for home defense? Or buggin' out to the wilderness? Or post-election--President Hillary---bury in the backyard weapon? Or Apocalypse concealed carry at all times weapon? Every time I consider the scenario I change my mind... *CAR-15 or AK in .223 would afford good firepower and light weight ammo for carrying when "heading for the hills" *Glock 20 in 10mm w/ extra barrels in 40, 357, 7.62x25, etc. for CCW... *12 gauge pump for home/perimeter defense... *Ruger 77 All-Weather in 17 HMR for back-woods game gathering, more punch, longer range than 22 (carry lots o' ammo as well) All in all, a very tough call choosing only one...:smokin:

Brent | 02-03-2008 07:41 PM
Re: one gun poll M1A with an acog is my vote.

RedRider | 02-03-2008 08:24 PM
Re: one gun poll I mulled this question A LOT prior to purchasing my weapons. My first pick would be a high capacity semi-auto pistol in 9mm (cheaper to shoot while still quite deadly, means you get to practice more). After that, get a solid scoped bolt action rifle in .308. My logic is that a high cap pistol takes care of your close quarters battle needs, should you require it. The rifle should prevent you from ever needing your pistol. Tagging enemies reliably at 500-700 yards with the benefit of the first shot helps your chances, especially if you've got multiple bad guys after you. Additional benefits: 1. Weight. 9mm gives you more ammo for less space and weight. Bolt action in .308 doesn't require large amounts of ammo. This helps in portability. 2. High cap pistol... in a CQB situation you wouldn't want to be wielding a revolver. You need a way to quickly reload, and you're going to be a lot happier that you aren't relying on 6 or 7 rounds before reloading. Get multiple mags, at least 3. That'll give you 48 rounds to help either kill em or break contact. It all depends on what situation and tactics you anticipate using. My two cents, anyways.

shades2 | 02-04-2008 08:45 AM
Re: one gun poll 3 Attachment(s) One gun for what? My picks are: (Hunting/Sniper) Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua Magnum

shades2 | 02-04-2008 08:50 AM
Re: one gun poll 3 Attachment(s) Full-sized service pistol (one of the following): Sig Sauer P226R in .357SIG (DA/SA) (Note tactical version shown currently is only 9mm from memory due to threaded barrel) Glock 34/35 (9x19mm .357SIG or .40) H&K Mk. 23 Mod 0 USSOCOM (.45 ACP / DA) (This thing is much bigger than your standard service pistol, but it's a great gun regardless)

shades2 | 02-04-2008 08:57 AM
Re: one gun poll 3 Attachment(s) Compact/Subcompact carry: Sig Sauer P229R (.357SIG) (Not all that compact, but compact enough) HK USP Compact (9mm or .45ACP) GLOCK 26/33 Sub-compact (9mm or .357SIG)

bsdetector | 02-09-2008 01:51 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 513214) I guess I�m the only one who voted for the .22 bolt action rifle! Think about this� I can carry 1000 rounds in my pockets. I can dot your eye at 100 yards. I�ve killed everything from doves to turkeys to coyotes to deer with a .22, there deadly if you know how to shoot. In a SHTF scenario my little .22 is a food getter and if needed it will kill a man (Head shots). In a Civil War setting use it to kill and enemy soldier and take his battle rifle.
I'm close, my sidekick is a scoped 22 autoloader with 50 rnd clips.

Virginian91 | 03-03-2008 03:13 PM
Re: one gun poll semi auto because 5 rounds (even buckshot) just ain't enough. Maybe i need more marksmanship training! ;0) tj

Heimdhal | 03-03-2008 03:15 PM
Re: one gun poll shotgun for sure, most utalitarian. Hunt phesant with your .223 long...well, a good hunter probably COULD but in a situation where you may need others to hunt for ya! This is assuming you are in a situation where concealability(escaping past patrols, road blocks, etc) is required. Go hunt deer with your 9mm glock...have fun....:smokin:

aybesee123 | 03-04-2008 01:57 AM
Re: one gun poll Duty Revolver = concealable and most reliable

AMforPM | 03-04-2008 02:45 AM
Re: one gun poll I chose 22LR thinking of the AR-7. Light, can ride in backpack and so can lots of light rounds. Not great for battle, though better than no gun, but good for hunting small game and for carrying with lots of rounds if you have to walk out. An assault rifle is much much better in a fight, and a shotgun much better for home defense, while a small revolver is better for going around town in troubled times. If I could only have 1 gun though I keep thinking... but how many rounds can you reasonably carry with water, food, clothing and camping gear?

jrog100 | 04-23-2008 12:50 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie (Post 512767) I said battle rifle. I know it's not the most practical all-around gun, but I don't just own guns for a SHTF scenario, and if I can only have one gun, it's going to be a .308. More specifically, it's going to be an M14, an M1A, or a FAL.
Why in the heck would anyone own a Springfield M1A 308? What a hunk of junk! Just kidding. My uncle had one and it was SUPER accurate and had a TON of punch! And then there's huge hunk of oiled walnut that came with it. Beautiful gun.

Silver Bullet | 04-23-2008 09:17 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 751517) Pistol .........it's easy to carry and every Officer has one ~ there's a good reason for that. :wink:
That's for shooting deserters in the back more than engaging the enemy.

wallew | 04-24-2008 02:43 PM
Re: one gun poll 40 Watt Plasma RIFLE... OR http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/a...1&d=1209062574 The sling goes over my right shoulder and brings the weapon up to a perfect sight picture. Plus hung down by my side you can barely see it's there.

jingles | 04-24-2008 03:33 PM
Re: one gun poll I voted before I looked at any of the post( didn't want to be swayed). I was kinda surprised I was only the 4th one to pick 22 bolt. Bolt is very reliable, it's not going to break down on you. Ammo is light, you can carry tons of it, it's quiet,especially with 22 short. It's good for just about anything but Bear, Moose, and Boar. EDIT: Hey finally my 100th post! It only took me 3 1/2 years. I guess you can tell I'm not much of a talker.

gbgunner | 05-25-2008 07:16 PM
Re: one gun poll I voted for the service semi auto. I can shoot my Beretta 92 very well. I've also been carrying it concealed for years. In my opinion one will be a target for TPTB or bad guys if they are carrying a long gun. It just advertises arrest me or come shoot me and take it. Obviously in total lawlessness a battle rifle would be appropriate.

JJ_ | 05-26-2008 02:22 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 1076935) 40 Watt Plasma RIFLE... OR http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/a...1&d=1209062574 The sling goes over my right shoulder and brings the weapon up to a perfect sight picture. Plus hung down by my side you can barely see it's there.
dang Wallew - is that how you're carrying a ccw these days?:emotions16:

AceNZ | 05-26-2008 05:57 AM
Re: one gun poll 12 ga for me. Being able to hunt, particularly birds, is as important to me as self defense -- and I'm not a good enough shot to hit them with a .22 like mtnman. I'd probably go with the Benelli Super Black Eagle II. Very high rate of fire and it can accept 3.5" magnum, 3" or 2.75" shells. I had a wonderful Benelli P90 years ago, and I could fire 5 shells with it before the first empty casing hit the ground. Unfortunately, it was stolen, or I would still have it today.

Bx3 | 05-26-2008 10:16 AM
Re: one gun poll I would say it depends on your location. If your urban, a concealable pistol will be the most advantageous firearm that people won't know you have. High capacity will trump caliber as you very well could be dealing with multiple threats. That being said, a high capacity, medium to large caliber pistol will be invaluable. I'm not going to start a caliber or manufacturer debate here but my personal choice is either of the 10mm Glocks. High capacity, large caliber, flat shooting and yes, more energy at 100 yards than a .45 at the muzzle. For those that argue about the availability of 10mm ammo, this is a prepping thread right? :wink: If your rural and can get away with carrying a long gun, almost any rifle is better than most pistols. Again, high capacity in medium to large caliber when combined with decent accuracy will have the advantage. When all is said and done, a good suppressed .22 pistol will always be worth it's weight in bullion. For some priceless insights into the reality of what we may soon be facing, I highly recommend reading the accounts and observations of FerFAL in Argentina.

Mosca | 06-18-2008 11:26 PM
Re: one gun poll Call me nuts if you want,but my choice is an old, battered & bruised 6.5x55 Swede. Reliably shoots at .5" moa in the field, thats an eyeball at 200 yards. I will not be allowing anyone to get close to me, location, surveillance, concealment and withdrawal are the 4 essentials of survival. For hunting it will effectively take anything from a rabbit to a cattle beast. Were I planning to ride it out in the city my choice would be a 12 gauge.

squexx | 06-19-2008 01:41 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by WAoG (Post 513076) I will second that. You can do just about anything with a really good 12 gauge. Guns are a lot like silver and ammo. I do not know how many or you could say how much I have. I lost count:-)
Got to bump on this one. Yes, the shotgun with lots of rounds and types of rounds is the most useful if you only had one gun.

Maddie | 08-24-2008 12:17 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosca (Post 1152939) Call me nuts if you want,but my choice is an old, battered & bruised 6.5x55 Swede. Reliably shoots at .5" moa in the field, thats an eyeball at 200 yards. I will not be allowing anyone to get close to me, location, surveillance, concealment and withdrawal are the 4 essentials of survival. For hunting it will effectively take anything from a rabbit to a cattle beast. Were I planning to ride it out in the city my choice would be a 12 gauge.
I wouldn't call you nuts. I have an M96. They're fine rifles. I've been reloading ammo for mine, but I can't quite get the accuracy I get out of the Remington. Guess I'll keep playing around with it.

TTAZZMAN | 08-24-2008 05:26 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosca (Post 1152939) Call me nuts if you want,but my choice is an old, battered & bruised 6.5x55 Swede. Reliably shoots at .5" moa in the field, thats an eyeball at 200 yards. I will not be allowing anyone to get close to me, location, surveillance, concealment and withdrawal are the 4 essentials of survival. For hunting it will effectively take anything from a rabbit to a cattle beast. Were I planning to ride it out in the city my choice would be a 12 gauge.
now i am impressed .5moa at 200yds in the field .....in the field im guessing that means open sights and off hand shooting with factory ammo?.......need to send one of these to all the accurized custom bolt gun manufactoers that want thousands of dollars for guns that cant do that

Maddie | 08-24-2008 06:33 PM
Re: one gun poll He's not lying. Those Swedish mausers were made for distance shooting! For the record, mine likes the Remington 6.5x55 Swedish factory ammo best. (A friend of mine was so impressed after shooting mine that he ran out and got one, too.)

SilverCity | 08-24-2008 07:24 PM
Re: one gun poll Well, .5 MOA means 1 inch groups at 200 yards (approximately)...still quite a feat with a stock M96 and iron sights.

TTAZZMAN | 08-24-2008 10:18 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1252672) Well, .5 MOA means 1 inch groups at 200 yards (approximately)...still quite a feat with a stock M96 and iron sights.
quite a feat indeed.....i really dont know anyone using a benchrest rifle with a scope that could shoot that off hand with factory ammo... not saying the rifle isnt accurate.....but...sand bag it up...put a scope on it....and reload the ammo......shoot on a day with no wind....then it becomes more plausable maybe. you certainly dont have to shoot .5moa at 200 to keep the boogie man away

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SilverCity | 08-24-2008 11:14 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 1252877) quite a feat indeed.....i really dont know anyone using a benchrest rifle with a scope that could shoot that off hand with factory ammo... not saying the rifle isnt accurate.....but...sand bag it up...put a scope on it....and reload the ammo......shoot on a day with no wind....then it becomes more plausable maybe. you certainly dont have to shoot .5moa at 200 to keep the boogie man away
Best I could ever do with mine was about 1.5 MOA with military surplus.

Maddie | 08-25-2008 08:56 AM
Re: one gun poll All I can tell you is I've seen it done. I can't do it as my eyesight is no longer good enough to see well enough at 200 yards with open sights to shoot like that (except for one extraordinarily good day I had with a friend's German mauser!), but I've seen a friend of mine (who competition shoots) do it with his Swedish mauser. No scope. No sandbags, but he was shooting from the bench and using the standard wooden bench rest covered with old carpet.

TTAZZMAN | 08-27-2008 12:18 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie (Post 1253278) All I can tell you is I've seen it done. I can't do it as my eyesight is no longer good enough to see well enough at 200 yards with open sights to shoot like that (except for one extraordinarily good day I had with a friend's German mauser!), but I've seen a friend of mine (who competition shoots) do it with his Swedish mauser. No scope. No sandbags, but he was shooting from the bench and using the standard wooden bench rest covered with old carpet.
"in the field" vs "from the bench" ........how can you even compare these? i really dont understand your point as the best shooters in the world shoot from a bench.

Igotyour6 | 08-27-2008 08:29 PM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 513214) I guess I�m the only one who voted for the .22 bolt action rifle! Think about this� I can carry 1000 rounds in my pockets. I can dot your eye at 100 yards. I�ve killed everything from doves to turkeys to coyotes to deer with a .22, there deadly if you know how to shoot. In a SHTF scenario my little .22 is a food getter and if needed it will kill a man (Head shots). In a Civil War setting use it to kill and enemy soldier and take his battle rifle.
I like this a lot

Worldmariner | 09-26-2008 01:19 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 513086) You can't double-tap a .44 Mag DE accurately.
That is the beauty of the .44 Magnum. YOU USUALLY DON'T NEED TO!! :D

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 09-30-2008 04:53 AM
Re: one gun poll Quote:
Originally Posted by LikeGreen (Post 513082) Don't know much about guns but I'm researching for my first purchase. Would this be a .44 magnum revolver like the Dan Wesson .44 with the 8" or something like a Desert Eagle semi-auto? I have a very particular interest in whatever handguns I get. My handgun needs are for, first, dealing with anything that comes up in and around my apartment, though I am looking for a shotgun for that kind of thing. My area of the city is OK, but there are significant bad actors around. If things get out of hand and there is a threat of my door being breached, I want to be able to stop it right there. But more importantly I'm thinking of a New Orleans scenario, where my urban area is an abandoned war zone. I want something, or something(s) that will provide me with the best protection to get out of here and, say, hike up to Connecticut or NJ, but at least protect myself while haul my ass out of Washington Heights, NYC. A big .44 might have the power I need and a scope would help a lot in that scenario. But I think something a little easier to get in and out my pocket/knapsack might be good, as well. I also wonder about re-loading if I'm in an urban firefight. I don't know anything about guns, but isn't a semi-auto easier to re-load than a revolver, assuming I've got a bunch of pre-loaded cartridges? I'm thinking something big and powerful like this .44. But also a one or two smaller handguns. I'm also thinking something super-easy to use in case I need to arm a companion. If I had to take someone on that hike with me who I might want to arm with something simple to use. LG :smokin:
I thought New York rejected Ammendment II

SilverSalmon | 10-20-2008 02:51 AM
Re: one gun poll 12 gauge Benelli

Dr. Doom | 10-22-2008 04:53 PM
Re: one gun poll AK-47 :bear_thumb:

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