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poorboy | 06-20-2008 08:51 PM
I can leave if need be. I have applied and I'm sure I will get my dual citizenship. My mother was born in another country and through their application process I met the qualifications, ofcourse because of my mother. My children automatically get theirs as well, the wife would have to apply for a visa ( i think ). As a citizen of finland, with a finnish passport I can go anywhere in the EU to work, live, etc. although i'd probably stay in finland if i went there. So when tshtf If i can afford it all of us can bail. Thing that would be a bummer is " guns ", they are quite socialist there. Not many rights. Who knows? What do you all think good thing or bad thing to do?

Twisted Avatar | 06-20-2008 09:29 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1155889) Options are ALWAYS a good thing. I am not sure how much better the EU is prepared than we are. But it is better to watch rome burn from a hill than in the city.
+1 on options I would be very wary of nations that are restrictve with gun laws....... the time is comiing when you will have to be the last line of defense for your loved ones. You need to have as many odds stacked in your favor a possible. If you wanted to recolate you would have to do it BEFORE the squeeze begins because WTSHFT nation after nation is going to shutting its doors. lest they risk overthrow for letting in massive amounts of refugees(always a highly unpopular move) Bottomline........ your best chance of survial is on the terrain you are most familair with and has the best gun laws. Prep accordingly. T

Ash_Williams | 06-20-2008 09:44 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Try buying a ticket to Finland once things go bad.

C4talyst | 06-21-2008 12:55 AM
Re: I can leave if need be. I'm glad out forefathers didn't pack up and head for mexico when the going got tough here 200 years ago.

Martian_Time_slip | 06-21-2008 01:47 AM
Re: I can leave if need be. Quote:
Originally Posted by C4talyst (Post 1156072) I'm glad out forefathers didn't pack up and head for mexico when the going got tough here 200 years ago.
Yeah, but most of the country's forefathers were freemasons.

Waylon | 06-21-2008 02:08 AM
Re: I can leave if need be. Life is so short. Go wherever you expect to have the most of it whenever you need to. I could think of many places that would be worse to go to than Finland. Don't let lines on a map confuse your life. In the end it is just different cultures and languages ... the people are pretty much the same (one head, two arms, etc.). Go wherever folks don't want to kill or enslave you and live well. The day may come that the US might not be that place. If so, use your ticket and never look back.

C4talyst | 06-21-2008 03:59 AM
Re: I can leave if need be. Martian...so?

mick silver | 06-27-2008 07:39 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. IF IT BAD HERE IT GOING TO BE A MILLION TIME WORST THERE

Twisted Avatar | 06-27-2008 07:50 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Quote:
Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1166618) IF IT BAD HERE IT GOING TO BE A MILLION TIME WORST THERE
Especially alot of the EU countries as they have been entirely emasculated. They are banning swords and knives in britan for crying outloud.......... (guns are stuff of legend and fairytales) WTSHTF it is going to be really bad over there. T

RaccoonRiverRadical | 06-27-2008 08:05 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Finland is desperate for people as their birthrate is very low. It has one of the best economies in Europe and I believe the cradle to grave type welfare state. The people are known for their dourness but at the same time I am willing to bet there is very little ghetto be it physical or cultural. It would likely be a grand adventure for you, although if you are leaving behind your extended family give it some hard thought, as there may come a time in your life where you want to care for your parents.

Silver Spoon | 06-29-2008 06:36 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. C4talyst "I'm glad out forefathers didn't pack up and head for mexico when the going got tough here 200 years ago." I take it that you are (1) Happy as Larry with how things are and therefore don't feel the need to tread a similar path to the founding fathers or (2) A keyboard warrior Maybe Poorboy isn't into the whole militia / extremist scene and just wants to look out for number one?

GoldenPoet | 06-29-2008 06:48 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Quote:
Originally Posted by Waylon (Post 1156105) The day may come that the US might not be that place. If so, use your ticket and never look back.
:applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_

DogFarm | 06-29-2008 06:57 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Choosing to live your life with "options" is a very powerful paradigm. :bull-buddy-icon:

serj | 06-29-2008 11:02 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Having the option to legally reside in another country at will to me sounds like a huge benefit. However in a SHTF scenario it may be extremely difficult to get on an airplane and leave the US. Either way as many already stated, every extra option is a good option.

Osaka | 06-29-2008 11:18 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Quote:
Originally Posted by serj (Post 1169351) Having the option to legally reside in another country at will to me sounds like a huge benefit.
Yes, it is. Also a hassle, learning all the new laws, dealing with racism, but it's worth it. As DogFarm said so correctly just a post ago, "Choosing to live your life with "options" is a very powerful paradigm."

jersey devl | 06-29-2008 11:47 PM
Re: I can leave if need be. Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1166632) They are banning swords and knives in britan for crying outloud T
shhhhhheeeeettttttt...thats a place where only "criminals" will have guns for sure...easy peasy to find a gun in Moss side (Manchester) (If youve got the minerals to be there)...it was name your toy before Desi Noonan got whacked...anything you wanted! New names and faces tho, but the game is still the same!

sirius007 | 06-30-2008 01:47 AM
Re: I can leave if need be. Finland may be a good choice, but only if you take it b/f tshtf. Finland may not be kindly to guns, however, most people work hard and there is a small lower class. Finns seem to be similar in appearance, ability, personal expectations and have alot of tough self-sufficient pride (sisu) to "take care of themselves". IMO, there will not be alot of people feeling sorry for themselves when tshtf. I'd say that it is a decent choice in a scenario where total anarchy occurs for a week or two. And I'm Sirius

macrohard | 06-30-2008 07:05 AM
Re: I can leave if need be. Finland is probably one of the safest countries you can live in WTSHTF. Lot's of water and land. And very few barbarians live there. (little immigration) The biggest downsides are taxes, the welfare state, anti-gun laws and the introvert people (but polite & honest).

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