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melbo | 05-23-2006 08:55 PM
Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest I know this is still Bird to Human. but can you imagine the chaos of a sudden 3 week Quarantine in a City in the US? I'm sure they had no notice before the Guns and barricades came out either... http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=124804 Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest as Romania battles bird flu BUCHAREST, May.22 (AFP): Some 13,000 people were quarantined in a quarter of the Romanian capital Bucharest as troops and police sealed off streets in response to the city's second bird flu outbreak, officials said. The mayor of the southern fourth district, Adrian Inimaroiu, said residents would be cut off and all businesses in the area would be closed during the quarantine period of up to three weeks. The move came after the agriculture ministry earlier Monday confirmed the presence of the H5 bird flu virus in dead chickens found in the neighbourhood, the latest of dozens of outbreaks of avian flu in Romania this spring. "About 40 streets have been blocked" in the Luica quarter, Inimaroiu said, urging residents to stay calm. He said the quarantine would last for a "period of a week to 21 days and all the institutions in this quarter will be closed". "About 2,500 birds from this area will be slaughtered as rapidly as possible," the mayor said. Police and troops were seen on the streets of the district Monday afternoon. A neighbourhood on the northern outskirts of the capital was put under quarantine Sunday evening with fences blocking a dozen streets and police preventing anyone from going in or out, except for medical emergencies. A total of 38 outbreaks of bird flu have been recorded in Romania in the past 10 days, with 26 unconfirmed cases, according to the agriculture ministry. Tests conducted at the European reference laboratory in Weybridge, England, have confirmed the presence of the potentially deadly H5N1 strain of the virus in seven samples taken from central Brasov county, including one from an industrial farm that was the source of the latest spread of the disease. Authorities say it is still unclear whether the virus found in Bucharest originated from this location.

Book | 05-23-2006 09:15 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Yikes...thanks for this post melbo. Better check to see what is in the Pantry. :confused:

wallew | 05-23-2006 09:51 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest I've always loved posts like this. Anyone who thinks any police force or army can 'quarantine' a medium sized city (note: that means ABOVE 1 million people - there are 130 of them here in the USA) is delusional. The story says they quarantined 13,000. And how many police and army forces did this quarantine? Even with heavy armor, ESPECIALLY in Europe where the streets are not set up to handle the physical size of most armored vehicles, it would be impossible if the sheeple panicked and stampeded. Happens during wars all the time. Things seem to me to be start falling apart faster and faster. ALL OVER THE WORLD!

Catwagon | 05-23-2006 09:53 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest I think the CDC or HS recommended what, an eight week quarantine here in the US should it ever go human to human? I've got stuff put back, but eight weeks would sure be tough... Quote:
I'm sure they had no notice before the Guns and barricades came out either...
I'll bet dollars to donuts they'd do the same thing here with just as little notice as those folks got, rifles and all. Wallew, all they're gonna have to do is shoot a few folks here and the rest are going to get the message quick. Martial law is not accountable for much and awfully severe on top of that.

thorgrim | 05-24-2006 04:20 AM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest That is pretty scary. We may be seeing this sort of thing here in North America fairly soon. One of the things that came to mind was if all business is shut down and no one can leave then nobodies making any money. What about mortgages and other expenses though I'm sure there still gonna want there money. Then what are people supposed to do ask for government handouts? This sort of thing could be in a city near you later this year better stock up on food and get your finances in order if you haven't all ready.

wallew | 05-24-2006 12:31 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwagon I'll bet dollars to donuts they'd do the same thing here with just as little notice as those folks got, rifles and all. Wallew, all they're gonna have to do is shoot a few folks here and the rest are going to get the message quick. Martial law is not accountable for much and awfully severe on top of that.
They MAY do that to the 'uninformed sheeple'. But if they attempt that with groups prepared they WILL pay a price. More and more people are getting fed up with all this. Can we say Waco? Sure they eventually burned out 80 something people. Same with Ruby Ridge. But in BOTH incidents they made several huge tactical mistakes. And then finally recovered from them. Imagine if David Koresh had gone out when the ATF raised their puny white flag and put a couple bullets in each of the 100 attackers to his compound. The arrogance involved with most of these events is not only calculable, but it is typical with a government mind set. A few good shooters could do wonders. Think of the resistance fighters in Warsaw, Poland during WWII. COMPLETELY cut off from everything. No food, no water, no firearms. Yet they resisted. To such a degree that even the Nazi's ended up pulling out and burning everything to the ground. Are we seeing a pattern here? If you can beat them, be prepared for their attempt to burn you out.

melbo | 05-24-2006 05:52 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Yeah. I read that it was 13K people. I know it would be near impossible to Quarantine a city of 1 million. But, if a major US city had 40 streets closed and 13K under lockdown. Hell would break loose. What I found interesting about this is that it doesn't take a full blown Human to Human scenario to case problems. I often hear that "Only 200 some have died. What's the big deal" Well, here's an example. THere are dead Flamingos in the Southern tip of the Bahamas right now. H5N1 is suspected. That's a little closeer to the US than we have seen so far. I know that theories abound about the origin of this sucker. Doesn't matter if it was natural, a lab accident, or a bio weapon. It's out there and is spreading accross the globe at a pretty stiff clip. IF it makes it's nasty leap. We are going to be in for a world of hurt.

Catwagon | 05-24-2006 06:53 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest I guess what worries me most is an "Outbreak" (movie) kind of situation. I'm not sure that there's enough law enforcement or Nat'l Gaurd to effectively quarantine all but a handful of of communities at one time. Eliminating small, non essential communities could free up officers and troops for the bigger, more important areas. And under martial law the military controls all the press and what they are allowed to witness and/or report. Alot of "stuff" could be done for the "common good" and all we'd have is the gov't's word as to what and why. Gloomy I know, but I've gotten to where I really mistrust alot of stuff lately.

P-99er | 05-25-2006 05:44 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Too bad the story didn't explain how the government planned to keep the people alive. How may ordinary people keep 3 weeks food stocked? I have more than enough, and probably enough for a year or more. I guess they would take my food from me to give to those who do not plan. It would appear that movement within the quarantined area was possible. It will be interesting to see how Gee Dumbya does it.

Au_Ag | 05-25-2006 05:53 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Quote:
Originally Posted by thorgrim That is pretty scary. We may be seeing this sort of thing here in North America fairly soon.......]One of the things that came to mind was if all business is shut down and no one can leave then nobodies making any money. What about mortgages and other expenses though I'm sure there still gonna want there money.
You don't have to look any further than Lousiana and other areas that Katrina hit. Lots of people just went under, and got out with only the shirts on their back.

stimpy17 | 05-25-2006 08:05 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest So much for the bug-out plan. I have always intended to shelter in place and this is a good example of on what could happen and is never talked about. So now what? All your preps are stashed at your bug out retreat and you can't even leave your house. We should watch what happens here, do the people panic, revolt or take it? What would you do?

Book | 05-25-2006 08:39 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Once they shoot that Loudmouth at the front of the mob it is over. Katrina showed us how American refugees act. Autos ran out of gas. Side of the blocked highways littered with dirty diapers and human waste. Nobody had even a bottle of water to drink as they whined to the television Cameraman. They are STILL waiting for their FEMA trailers. Get real. Hunker down where you are for the first lunatic month. Spend more time in the GIM Survival Prep Section. You will be on your own :beer:

stimpy17 | 05-25-2006 09:33 PM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest That's what the Israelis do, they will use a suppresed .22 and "grion" the leader of the mod. No one hears any thing but all of a sudden their leader hits the pavment, holding his crotch...........it would make me think twice.

REV127 | 05-26-2006 10:50 AM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest If you're going to resist, win your engagment and escape immediately. Have force multipliers such as tear or peppergas, smoke and fire. Have equaliziers like body armor, fire extinguishers and gas masks. If you're going to escape consider alternative avenues such as storm drains, scuba or snorkel gear through cannals or large drainage ditches and don't forget about the woods. They can see better at night than you can so don't set yourself up for a fall. During the day you have as good a chance of spotting them as they have of spotting you. Aircraft see movement fairly well, if you're stationary and trying to look unimportant you might go unnoticed. Most anything that can break line of sight can protect you at least for a time from infrared/thermal imaging. In a case I don't recall the details of some criminal or another managed to hide from FLIR under a cardboard box in the desert. Trees, bushes and cars can all hide you, so can a burrow so have an e-tool. I still think there's something not quite right about this bird flu and mad cow scare.

Book | 05-26-2006 10:55 AM
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If you're going to escape consider alternative avenues such as storm drains, scuba or snorkel gear through cannals or large drainage ditches and don't forget about the woods. -REV127
Attachment 14935 Yeah...we should all take the Navy Seal training course. :rolleyes:

REV127 | 05-26-2006 11:25 AM
Re: Thousands of people quarantined in Bucharest Hahahaha! That would work! In practice I'd leave the guns though, and the fins, maybe keep a pistol for once I'm out of Dodge and need some self defense. At low depths a bottle will last you an extremely long time and I'd rather be able to dump my rig and run than engage in a firefight or swim a little more efficiently. I have a buddy who does cave diving, his wife too. Florida is nothing but a maze of underground rivers, this guy will never get caught by any quarantine.

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