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latitude22 | 12-27-2008 12:23 AM
ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide What kind of quantity are you guys (the guys that are stocking it) keeping on hand per person. I have about 200 per right now.

Squirrel Bait | 12-27-2008 12:35 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide At least 2 30 day doses per person. s

latitude22 | 12-27-2008 12:40 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide oh i should be solid then, i've got about 100 day supply per person. @ 2 per day.

Tallships | 12-27-2008 12:44 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Where do you get these things?

Squirrel Bait | 12-27-2008 12:50 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide http://cgi.ebay.com/KIO3-Potassium-I...3A1%7C294%3A50 or http://cgi.ebay.com/KIO3-anti-radiat...3286.m20.l1116

Tallships | 12-27-2008 12:56 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide thanks for the link.

californiaprospector | 12-27-2008 01:11 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide What is the real utility of KI? It seems to be a relic of the Cold War. It would appear to be of less value than a high-grade gas mask (which the vast majority do not have).

Squirrel Bait | 12-27-2008 01:27 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Quote:
Originally Posted by californiaprospector (Post 1483569) What is the real utility of KI? It seems to be a relic of the Cold War. It would appear to be of less value than a high-grade gas mask (which the vast majority do not have).
This is taken from : http://www.campingsurvival.com/potiodkio3th.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How will KIO3 help? KIO3 is a thyroid blocker. If there is a nuclear event and fallout is headed your way then�and only then�should you take KIO3 or any thyroid blocker. Taking a thyroid blocker will saturate (fill full) a healthy thyroid with �good Iodine� which will prevent the thyroid from absorbing 131-I �the bad Iodine�. What happens if I do not take a thyroid blocker? If there is a nuclear event�and you are caught in fallout�and your thyroid is not �blocked� with good Iodine then your thyroid will absorb the radioactive Iodine. Your thyroid does not know the difference between good Iodine and Radioactive Iodine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you aren't aware, the talk of nuclear weapons is definitely on the rise again. This has been warned about not only by the US gov't and military but foreign sources as well. Depending on where you live, KIO3 probably has a higher chance of being needed than a gas mask. It's very cheep. Lasts a long time. And if you do need it, it won't be available. Here's another reference: http://www.kio3-usa.com/kio3-news-chernobyl.htm s

Cassius | 12-27-2008 01:44 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide You can get potassium iodide and all sorts of other really really cool stuff at www.unitednuclear.com I only have a couple bottles because I figure, if someplace was nuked far enough away that I wasn't burnt to a crisp yet near enough that I'd worry about radiation poisoning, I probably wouldn't stay in the area for more than a few days tops anyway. Dunno if I'd go to Canada, Mexico, relocate within the US or even try to go abroad, but I'd sure as shit be getting the heck out of dodge.

Determined2Au | 12-27-2008 05:04 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide One of the lessons from survivors of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was that those who ate seaweed tended to have higher survival rate. Natural, good source of iodine in all sea vegetables. Some taste pretty good too:wink:

Ag_man | 12-27-2008 10:08 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide About 1-2% of the daughter products from a fission explosion would be I-131 and the half life of I-131 is 8.01 days. Therefore, a 30 day supply of KI03 would give protection for ~4 half lives, at which the background concentration of I-131 would have decayed to very neglible levels.

nub | 12-27-2008 10:14 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Can some one please tell me, does any ingestible Iodine suffice ? I use IOSOL on a daily basis http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=4785&at=1

Squirrel Bait | 12-27-2008 11:00 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Hi Nub, I think yes, but it needs to be in a quantity to "flood" your system. At least that's the theory. If you can keep your system flooded until the Io 131 is no longer a threat your body shouldn't absorb any of it and concentrate it in your thyroid. s

nub | 12-27-2008 11:03 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1483863) Hi Nub, I think yes, but it needs to be in a quantity to "flood" your system. At least that's the theory. If you can keep your system flooded until the Io 131 is no longer a threat your body shouldn't absorb any of it and concentrate it in your thyroid. s
Thanks SB ......so then, one would just have to figure the dosage. I did go to your link and purchase 2 bottles.....thanks twice :biggrin:

Maddie | 12-27-2008 02:22 PM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide I have more than I could ever need. I got a deal a few years ago and got a bulk package of 6 bottles for the price of one, then I was given a couple of boxes more after completion of a survival medical course. I don't know if I'd actually take them, though. I'll be 47 soon, so I'm close to the age that you don't really have to bother about it. Also, my understanding is that most people have a lot of trouble keeping the tablets down, as they cause nausea and vomiting. I figure I'd have enough to do under those circumstances without the nausea and the vomiting.

californiaprospector | 12-27-2008 02:34 PM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1483581) This is taken from : http://www.campingsurvival.com/potiodkio3th.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How will KIO3 help? KIO3 is a thyroid blocker. If there is a nuclear event and fallout is headed your way then—and only then—should you take KIO3 or any thyroid blocker. Taking a thyroid blocker will saturate (fill full) a healthy thyroid with “good Iodine” which will prevent the thyroid from absorbing 131-I “the bad Iodine”. What happens if I do not take a thyroid blocker? If there is a nuclear event—and you are caught in fallout—and your thyroid is not “blocked” with good Iodine then your thyroid will absorb the radioactive Iodine. Your thyroid does not know the difference between good Iodine and Radioactive Iodine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you aren't aware, the talk of nuclear weapons is definitely on the rise again. This has been warned about not only by the US gov't and military but foreign sources as well. Depending on where you live, KIO3 probably has a higher chance of being needed than a gas mask. It's very cheep. Lasts a long time. And if you do need it, it won't be available. Here's another reference: http://www.kio3-usa.com/kio3-news-chernobyl.htm s
I know what it's theoretically for. But is the theory realistic, that we're going to be universally showered with radioactive iodine? And will we drop dead if we don't have KI? Nope. Deriving one's "proof" from the merchant who sells the "cure" is not wise. There are many things to prepare for, and many things to buy to prepare with, but I'd say KI is one of those things that is simply not cost-effective (save, perhaps, if you live 10 miles downwind of a nuclear power plant). There will be no "Day After" - and even a "Jericho" would necessitate KI only for about 5-10% of the immediately downwind population. Does everyone who has KI also have pre-cut sheets of plastic and duct tape for every window, door, and other inlet, like Tom Ridge recommended? As hokey as that was, it's more practical than buying KI. As is having current, pre-expiration gas masks capable of handling nerve gas, for each family member, and one each in each car and at home (expensive - damned right - but infinitely more practical, again, than KI).

CrufflerJJ | 12-27-2008 09:36 PM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide [QUOTE=californiaprospector;1484081] Deriving one's "proof" from the merchant who sells the "cure" is not wise. /QUOTE] True...very true. A couple sources for possible "proof" of the need of KI in the event of radioactive oopsies are: http://www.fda.gov/cder/guidance/4825fnl.htm ...and... http://www.fda.gov/Cder/drugprepare/KI_Q&A.htm#buy%20KI As a cost saving aproach, for those folks with decent scales at home, capable of weighing quantities of 0.065 & 0.13 grams, consider buying reagent grade KI in larger quantities at a significant $$$ discount. One such source is: http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVA...FRJexwoddTBgCw 25g KI for about $40. This would be enough for 192 adult daily doses.

hypervel | 12-27-2008 09:45 PM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Quote:
Originally Posted by californiaprospector (Post 1483569) What is the real utility of KI? It seems to be a relic of the Cold War. It would appear to be of less value than a high-grade gas mask (which the vast majority do not have).
Why? 'fraid of civil disturbance?:wink:

latitude22 | 12-27-2008 09:50 PM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide Quote:
Originally Posted by californiaprospector (Post 1484081) I know what it's theoretically for. But is the theory realistic, that we're going to be universally showered with radioactive iodine? And will we drop dead if we don't have KI? Nope. Deriving one's "proof" from the merchant who sells the "cure" is not wise. There are many things to prepare for, and many things to buy to prepare with, but I'd say KI is one of those things that is simply not cost-effective (save, perhaps, if you live 10 miles downwind of a nuclear power plant). There will be no "Day After" - and even a "Jericho" would necessitate KI only for about 5-10% of the immediately downwind population. Does everyone who has KI also have pre-cut sheets of plastic and duct tape for every window, door, and other inlet, like Tom Ridge recommended? As hokey as that was, it's more practical than buying KI. As is having current, pre-expiration gas masks capable of handling nerve gas, for each family member, and one each in each car and at home (expensive - damned right - but infinitely more practical, again, than KI).
I'm 3 miles from a nuke plant.......... I just need enough time to toss the docklines off and get a few hundred miles away. I am stocking it for the same reason I CCW, I'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.

beefsteak | 12-28-2008 01:25 AM
Re: ThyroSafe/ Potassium Iodide KI Pills are G.I. issued to all postmasters and substitute postmasters--even in podunk towns here in USA. This is fact, not conjecture. Makes you wonder what the government thinks is going to happen in our nation's post offices. :Surrender:

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