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uranian | 08-15-2008 12:32 PM
Dental health i have no fillings in my mid-30s, but i've had bleeding gums when i brush my teeth (stopped using toothpaste years ago, sometimes use a drop of essential oil on my toothbrush for their antibacterial properties, particularly fond of fennel for its taste) for as long as i can recall. so i started to read curezone on this, and came across an unlikely remedy called oil pulling. boils down to take 2 teaspoons of vegetable oil in your mouth, swill energetically for 15 minutes, spit out. i did this for less than a week, and my bleeding gums are gone. strange but true. i've looked into dental health a bit since investigating mouth ulcers (milk seems a primary cause of them for me, though milk products such as yogurt or cheese don't), which i used to get lots of. conclusions i've come to are toothpaste is unneccessary and frequently dangerous (SLS is engine cleaner in its industrial life), clove oil excellent for toothache (can't say this is personal experience, given no fillings, but others around me report this) and oil pulling is generally good for oral health (it's supposed to suck up oral bacteria, so that you spit the critters out). may you visit the dentist as infrequently as i :D

PlatinumBlonde | 08-15-2008 12:52 PM
Re: Dental health I brush with baking soda and floss but I will try the oil pulling thingy.. Sounds interesting..

jamesfrancisco | 08-15-2008 04:20 PM
Re: Dental health Bleeding gums are generally due to gum disease. If you insist on not using toothpaste, I suggest you buy a Sonicare toothbrush and use your potion of choice along with it. I went to the dentist last week for the first time in 6 years, and all he could say was "well, everything here is fine - how do you brush?" I said Sonicare, and he just nodded, no cavities, no sealant, no cleanings needed, no nothing except for �30 out of my pocket for his 5 minute inspection!

G-khan | 08-15-2008 04:27 PM
Re: Dental health Here is a thread I started.. I would like to say I love this brush and it really improves oral health. No more bleeding gums if you use this daily. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=255215

Atahualpa | 08-15-2008 04:45 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfrancisco (Post 1239936) Bleeding gums are generally due to gum disease. If you insist on not using toothpaste, I suggest you buy a Sonicare toothbrush and use your potion of choice along with it. I went to the dentist last week for the first time in 6 years, and all he could say was "well, everything here is fine - how do you brush?" I said Sonicare, and he just nodded, no cavities, no sealant, no cleanings needed, no nothing except for �30 out of my pocket for his 5 minute inspection!
Second the Sonicare, I've been using them over ten years...first one I purchased from my dentist, she was trying to get all her clients to use them, but she said people with a lot of dental work don't like them because their teeth are too sensitive. I also use a dentist cleaning tool regularly and floss, no problems. Oral health is one of the primary keys to health. Sonicare is a modern device that actually lives up to the hype.

jamesfrancisco | 08-15-2008 04:51 PM
Re: Dental health Too true, G-Khan. I also use the Colgate "professional weekly clean" toothpaste once a week, and my dentist never has anything to say but "wow". The sonicare cleans a few (I think 3) mm below where you are brushing, as well. $100 for a toothbrush, $$$$$ for dental work. I prefer no-one to be having to drill and fill my teeth.

G-khan | 08-15-2008 04:55 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by Atahualpa (Post 1239980) Second the Sonicare, I've been using them over ten years...first one I purchased from my dentist, she was trying to get all her clients to use them, but she said people with a lot of dental work don't like them because their teeth are too sensitive. I also use a dentist cleaning tool regularly and floss, no problems. Oral health is one of the primary keys to health. Sonicare is a modern device that actually lives up to the hype.
Could not agree more - most people will stay away from this because of the price but IMO it is worth every penny.. I got mine on Ebay retail was 179 and I paid about 110 if I recall correctly... If this just saves you from one dental procedure it will pay for itself.

G-khan | 08-15-2008 04:57 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfrancisco (Post 1239994) Too true, G-Khan. I also use the Colgate "professional weekly clean" toothpaste once a week, and my dentist never has anything to say but "wow". The sonicare cleans a few (I think 3) mm below where you are brushing, as well. $100 for a toothbrush, $$$$$ for dental work. I prefer no-one to be having to drill and fill my teeth.
See people who own these know what I am talking about - they work. I have to try that toothpaste?

Atahualpa | 08-15-2008 05:14 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by G-khan (Post 1239998) Could not agree more - most people will stay away from this because of the price but IMO it is worth every penny.. I got mine on Ebay retail was 179 and I paid about 110 if I recall correctly... If this just saves you from one dental procedure it will pay for itself.
Sonicare's are cheap for what they do, even with the pricey replacement heads, the units last for years, I'm on my second one in ten years...still using the old style.

jamesfrancisco | 08-15-2008 07:30 PM
Re: Dental health I gave the old style one I had to my brother. I and a colleauge from work were talking about teeth - both being heavy smokers. She asked how I got mine so white, and I told her "Sonicare and Clinomyn". Lo and behold, we went along to Sainsbury's that lunchtime to get beer and wine - they had Sonicare toothbrushes. And they had wronglu labelled them as "Flexicare". We got a store slave to blip the price - �19.99 each. So we cleaned them out of them, and then came back on the monday and cleaned them out again. They have never stocked them since, but we got around 40 toothbrushes at �20 each when they should have been �100. All now gone to friends, family, and Ebay - but the girl I was there with cannot believe the difference in her teeth. It honestly feels like you have just had a professional cleaning, every single time! And the weekly stuff - by god, it is like Jesus has personally come in and massaged your gums and teeth. Khan - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Colgate-Total-...=1218843123410 Will post to the states, apparently - and after 6 uses (you actually get more like 12 out of a tube if you use the sonicare), you will buy it again!

Infidel | 08-15-2008 07:54 PM
Re: Dental health I had lots of tartar buildup just prior to about 26 days ago. I started fasting on water then. My mouth generally feels acidic in the morning. Guess what? My tartar is gone and my teeth are shiny and sparkly. Who'da'thunk? I am a little worried about my fillings. I wonder what this will do to that. (If you have questions about fasting do not clog this thread. I have another one in survival forum.)

jamesfrancisco | 08-15-2008 07:59 PM
Re: Dental health Tartar is like limescale. If your mouth is acidic, it will gradually dissolve the tartar. After that, it will gradualy dissolve your teeth.

jamesfrancisco | 08-15-2008 08:02 PM
Re: Dental health PS - get a sonicare and even use it with baking soda. It'll neutralise the acid in your mouth, as well as getting them sparkly clean. And your fillings will remain the same, whereas acid will eat in and around your fillings, freeing up even more delicious mercury.

Atahualpa | 08-15-2008 08:06 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfrancisco (Post 1240245) PS - get a sonicare and even use it with baking soda. It'll neutralise the acid in your mouth, as well as getting them sparkly clean. And your fillings will remain the same, whereas acid will eat in and around your fillings, freeing up even more delicious mercury.
Now you're really going to freak him out...he thought he was cleaning out toxins by fasting.

jamesfrancisco | 08-15-2008 08:32 PM
Re: Dental health Well, as is often said here, "Knowledge is power". And yet as I have found, the more you know, the more you need to find out!

uranian | 08-16-2008 12:48 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfrancisco (Post 1239994) Too true, G-Khan. I also use the Colgate "professional weekly clean" toothpaste once a week, and my dentist never has anything to say but "wow".
Ingredients: • Sodium Fluoride 5-10 grams of sodium fluoride are required to kill most adult humans • Hydrated Silica • Aqua • Glycerin • Sorbitol • PVM/MA Copolymer • Sodium Lauryl Sulfate , aka engine cleaner • Aroma • Cellulose Gum • Sodium Hydroxide • Polyethylene , neurotoxin, allergen, linked to cancer • Carrageenan • Triclosan • Sodium Saccharin • Perlite • Limonene, Dermal exposure to d-limonene (98%) for 2 hours in one subject caused burning, itching, aching, and a long-lasting purpuric rash • CI 77891, A study of 67 subjects in a small titanium oxide paint factory in Nigeria showed 50-54% frequency for airway symptoms, 20-40% for neurological symptoms this is the result of a 15 minute web search. beware your tooth pastes. you really don't need them, you can easily make your own if you wish to use it (clay, chalk, essential oil, water, is a mix i've used). i've chosen some of the more dramatic headlines for these chemicals, but nonetheless, the wisdom of brushing your teeth with a mixture of plastic, known neurotoxins and engine cleaner seems questionable to me. great resource for checking out chemicals is skindeep.

jamesfrancisco | 08-16-2008 01:04 PM
Re: Dental health 5-10 grams of fluoride will kill me? I won't take that, then. 2 gallons of pure, filtered, chlorine free water will kill me as well. SLF is in everything, it has never harmed anyone I know except on girl who was allergic to it - so she changed to a different type of toothpaste. Limonene - I don't intend to put it on my skin for two hours, at 98% strength. I'd rather keep my teeth, thank you. But feel free to look like a toothless meth-head if you so wish. If TSHTF ever happens, I think I will want to have all my teeth.

uranian | 08-16-2008 02:51 PM
Re: Dental health ah, the joys of reasoned debate. my general take on this is that ingesting poison is bad.

uranian | 08-16-2008 04:47 PM
Re: Dental health that toothpaste states that it's 1450ppm sodium fluoride, or 0.145%. assuming 1ml of the toothpaste weighs 1g, for every tube of the stuff, you're getting 0.03g of sodium fluoride. you need 170 tubes of the stuff for a lethal dose of sodium fluoride. so the question is, how much poison is reasonable to ingest? my take on that is none.

Twisted Avatar | 08-16-2008 05:07 PM
Re: Dental health 1 Attachment(s) FLOSSING IS EVERYTHING. I have had lots of chomper problems because I was lazy but I have gotten very serious about it when It dawned on me TSHTF dental vists will be a distant memory. The point of infection is always at the gumb line and food gets to sit and works it magic on your tooth enamel. I have done a compelte turn around because I found those littel floss sticks I keep a bag with me and work them arond my mouth like toothpicks. Keep them handy.... they are lifesavers

Twisted Avatar | 08-16-2008 05:09 PM
Re: Dental health 1 Attachment(s) And for those who talk a whole lot of shyt...........

jamesfrancisco | 08-16-2008 08:59 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by uranian (Post 1241506) that toothpaste states that it's 1450ppm sodium fluoride, or 0.145%. assuming 1ml of the toothpaste weighs 1g, for every tube of the stuff, you're getting 0.03g of sodium fluoride. you need 170 tubes of the stuff for a lethal dose of sodium fluoride. so the question is, how much poison is reasonable to ingest? my take on that is none.
I drink beer, wine, and eat olives stuffed with pimiento. All poisons. How much of these is it reasonable to ingest? None? Or, do your research, and actually do the numbers for yourself. Alternatively - lead a horribly boring life never touching foreign foods, have all your teeth fall out, then die.

jamesfrancisco | 08-16-2008 09:09 PM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1241534) FLOSSING IS EVERYTHING. I have had lots of chomper problems because I was lazy but I have gotten very serious about it when It dawned on me TSHTF dental vists will be a distant memory. The point of infection is always at the gumb line and food gets to sit and works it magic on your tooth enamel. I have done a compelte turn around because I found those littel floss sticks I keep a bag with me and work them arond my mouth like toothpicks. Keep them handy.... they are lifesavers
if you use those daily and get a Sonicare, visits to the dentist will be a distant memory. Saves the moolah, and keeps you away from the ����� dentist. Though the hygienists were always pretty cute.:D:wink:

mouse | 08-17-2008 05:42 AM
Re: Dental health My wife is a dental assistant. Floss twice or more a day and sonicare. Never a problem since I started that, and a nightguard. Acid and teeth grinding will destroy your teeth, I have $10k in work to prove it. Flossing is king. Wife uses some crap that tastes like pine needles but is natural and not tested on little white bunnies. I use colgate or whatever. We have TONS of it since she gets all the samples. I can out brush you ALL - bwhahahaha. As the boss tells me when I don't feel like flossing: IF YOU IGNORE YOUR TEETH, THEY WILL GO AWAY :)

jamesfrancisco | 08-17-2008 07:11 AM
Re: Dental health But you're probably dead by now - YOU INGESTED FLUORIDE, A KNOWN POISON! And if you're not dead, your brain is under control by the government. They don't put that stuff in toothpaste because it's good for your teeth, you know.:sarc:

mouse | 08-17-2008 07:56 PM
Re: Dental health Well, the little gray men told me it was okay. I see them all the time when I am at DIA flying around. They always tell me this stuff and then snap this pen-like thing and next thing you know I am all programmed and ready to work for FRN. It's so cool. I think I might invest in the stock market, got a good tip from one of the little gray dudes.

Goldhedge | 08-17-2008 08:38 PM
Re: Dental health I just got a Sonicare. $80 from the dentist. It's the newest model. The handle is smaller than the older ones. I can't believe how nice it works. Super smooth teeth. I floss once a day - in evening before retiring. Brush at bedtime and in the morning after 7 or 8 hours of sleep. My mother had her teeth pulled when she was 35. Floss hadn't been invented yet. If you don't like flossing, that's ok, just floss those teeth that you want to keep. Anyone ever consider what happens to someones teeth when they are in a coma?? They typically rot.

Zilver | 08-17-2008 10:18 PM
Re: Dental health 1 Attachment(s) rinse after each meal with high fructose corn syrup mixed with coca cola:D

Unclad Lad | 08-18-2008 02:07 AM
Re: Dental health Quote:
Limonene, Dermal exposure to d-limonene (98%) for 2 hours in one subject caused burning, itching, aching, and a long-lasting purpuric rash
One subject out of a pool of how many? Ten, or 400? And is the concentration of d-limonene found in toothpaste 98%, or 0.5%? Scare tactics aren't very tactical.

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