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Book | 05-18-2006 10:42 AM
American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Letter Re: Survivalist Matchmaking? Hi Jim, I remarried about three years ago to a woman from Vietnam whom I met through a friend I work with. We were introduced by my friend who is also from Vietnam. We became pen pals and conversed via e-mail and chat for almost five months before I went to Vietnam to meet her. She was a school teacher in Saigon and had never been married. She and her family survived the brutal takeover by the communist North Vietnamese after the U.S. government abandoned the South Vietnamese in 1975. My wife and her family made several attempts to escape after the war but were caught and imprisoned until they bought their way out of jail. They finally resigned to staying in Vietnam and moved to the central highlands to become farmers. Years later they moved back into the Saigon area and now maintain several homes and properties they have acquired. Things in Vietnam are much better now that the communists have opened the borders to foreign trade and tourists. Most Vietnamese are free to travel anywhere in the country and around the world if they can afford it. I have been there three times and enjoy it immensely as the people are very friendly and just curious about outsiders. My wife has adjusted to life here in Southern California and now works in a nail salon as many Vietnamese women do because it is easy to do and the money is very good. My wife is very survival oriented because of her former life in Vietnam and she still maintains a garden here. She is very thrifty and resourceful as most Vietnamese are. She understands my survival preparations and is okay with them as long as I don�t �break the bank�. None of her family want to come here to the U.S. because they have successful thriving businesses and family back in Vietnam and things are very expensive here. My wife calls her family almost every week and we travel there to visit every year. It has been a wonderful experience for both of us to have met and married. You may post this if you feel your readers might be interested. Thanks again for a great site with lots of good info about our ever more dangerous and changing world. I am a 10 cent challenge member and have been into survival prepping for more than 30 years. - DC in So. Cal. The Memsahib Replies: Your suggestion that foreign women make better "survival" wives is very interesting. Many American women I know from the baby boom generation have had it good all their lives. They were brought up in a time of a booming economy and their parents did very well for themselves. These women do not want to face the reality of the weakening American economy. They want to go on their merry way, believing they will be just as affluent as their parents and that their children ought to be even more materially blessed than they were. Most of the practical women I know are women who are in their eighties! They are old enough to understand the realities of the Great Depression. They saw the shortages of the World War II years. It makes sense to me that foreign-born women who have experienced war, persecution, and economic upheaval would be survival minded. My caution would be though that those women might be so desperate to marry an American that they might pretend to be someone that they are not, just in order marry. I also think certain countries have a "national personality" which is more congenial to meshing with the American personality. Native-born Filipinas that I know seem to have a strong Judeo-Christian underpinning but the Soviet Bloc and Communist Chinese women I have known (raised during 60+ years of atheism) have been brought up to look out only for themselves. Make sure that your faith matches that of your prospective spouse. Also consider the differences between women raised in rural villages versus women raised in big cities. For any SurvivalBlog readers considering marrying someone from abroad, I suggest that you interview many men that are already married to women from the country that you are considering. Are they happily married? If not , why not? Is there a pattern of behavior/attitudes that their wives show? I also counsel a really loooooooong engagement! Linky

Ash_Williams | 05-18-2006 10:46 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Well, the way the obesity rate is increasing, they have plenty of "reserves" in case of a food shortage.

REV127 | 05-18-2006 02:27 PM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? I dated a Khmai lady whose family escaped the Khmer Rouge. I was generally very impressed by the honor, integrity, hard work and clean living I saw in Asian society. The one and only thing in the whole world I could ever fault her for was she was just a little too meek for me. She wasn't at all in the least affraid of hard work or lean times, she just didn't have a well developed warrior spirit. If they have the attributes you're looking for they're fine women and Asian/European mixed children tend to come out looking pretty good. I'd be inclined to consider it more of a case of racial alloying than racial mixing. In the end I decided on an American woman of Scottish descent, I figured one barbarian would do well to marry another and I've not been disappointed. Actually, Nordics and Scotts have a fairly long history of intermarrying. Stoicism and bravery are paradigms in my traditional culture and you have to respect a people who throw telephone poles around for fun. :D My wife is very survival-friendly, though she can be a bit fussy about some stuff sometimes that's any woman. I am confident she is a match for a man equal in weight in hand to hand combat and she's an able markswoman, she even handles the .357mag without trouble. I think the moral here is to be picky and choose a woman who suits your personality. The foreign women aren't bad, but don't write off all the American women based on the bad examples. There's a lot of good women out there if you look.

softserve320 | 05-18-2006 05:49 PM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Great post and very well spoken :-) It's all a matter of preference I believe. To really know what you want in a mate and to know also what you will not do without is very important. To prioritize is essential as with all major decisions. As a female I would have to agree that the typical woman baby boomer (and younger) would have to have an open mind in all the survival stuff since there personal history maybe has not shown a need for such prudence. A product of their environment in most cases and in that they have been miseducated and are in a state of nescience IMO. Since nature is not weighted as heavily for serious survival skills in the female and their environment did not create the neccesity to hone them, there is a serious deficit and programmed aversion. This can also IMO be applicable to the males except for the natural tendency to vear in that direction and/or to be able to be more easily guided in that direction and actually learn to enjoy it...depending on who's teaching :-). I have noticed in my travels.......that the men who seem to have good to excellent survival instincts and mindset, do not always have a very good ability to bond with females as much. This could be due to them not finding a good match, being frustrated and in turn not having much emotional/communication/cooperation practice in their personal relationship skills with a female among 100's of other variables I suppose. For some men who have the survivalist instict, it seems, the choice of woman who match them, in this day and age, is such a small percentage that I feel for them and there frustrations. Especially since I'm sure I know by now that even though this type of man wants his equal....to be too meek(as stated above) may not be preferred though being too aggressive is not either. To be feminine yet self sufficiant is a good balance. A healthy balance in both sexes is important I believe. In my opinion :wink:

ladagerick | 05-18-2006 06:04 PM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? My wife grew up in Jamaica her family moved to Houston (they were fleeing the communists) when she was 17 (aunts and uncles in Toronto and LA) and she went straight to Univ of Houston. She is all for preparing for hard times. I am a blessed man!

Ponce Cuba | 05-18-2006 06:11 PM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Ponce <----- will trade a little female cat that thinks that she is his wife for a real human woman..... when ever a female comes to visit me my little cat wont come in the house, even if it is winter :y:

Maddie | 05-19-2006 10:11 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? (Hi, everyone! I'm new here.) I think that many American women are going to have a difficult time transitioning to a survivor mentality. Unfortunately, I think many American men are going to have just as difficult a time. How many survival skills does the average person of either gender have these days?

Book | 05-19-2006 10:18 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Quote:
(Hi, everyone! I'm new here.) -Maddie
Hi Maddie! Welcome to GIM. :shot:

softserve320 | 05-19-2006 10:20 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Hi Maddie, Welcome!!! I must agree with you....most of the population will be caught off guard and will struggle in a major way nomatter what gender they are. I don't look foreward to watching it play out thats for sure. But they will be forced to learn quickly. Enjoy your time here.....:wavey:

P-99er | 05-19-2006 10:29 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? I don't look forward to it either. In fact, I hope it doesn't happen. I have always wondered about the mentality of those "survivalists" types who hope it happens like it is some kind of vindication or affirmation of them. A lot of whacko's at Frugals seem to want it to happen, It is going to be UGLY. Lots of women raped, brutalized, killed. Lots of children experiencing violence like they never imagined, seeing that happen to their moms. Lots of people killed, lots of violence and possibly eventual starvatiion. Look at how New Orleans broke down after Katrina. That will look like the good old days. It is certainly nothing a rational person hopes for.

Book | 05-19-2006 10:35 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Don't let P-99er scare you off Maddie. Hasn't been a rape here at GIM for months. :bawling:

J.D.Rockinfeller | 05-22-2006 06:36 PM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Quote:
Originally Posted by P-99er I don't look forward to it either. In fact, I hope it doesn't happen. I have always wondered about the mentality of those "survivalists" types who hope it happens like it is some kind of vindication or affirmation of them. A lot of whacko's at Frugals seem to want it to happen, It is going to be UGLY. Lots of women raped, brutalized, killed. Lots of children experiencing violence like they never imagined, seeing that happen to their moms. Lots of people killed, lots of violence and possibly eventual starvatiion. Look at how New Orleans broke down after Katrina. That will look like the good old days. It is certainly nothing a rational person hopes for.
You make good sense man! Too many armchair Rambos out there imo.

Maddie | 05-23-2006 12:21 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? Quote:
Originally Posted by Book Don't let P-99er scare you off Maddie. Hasn't been a rape here at GIM for months. :bawling:
I don't scare easy! (And I've got more lead than silver!:D)

Book | 05-23-2006 12:35 AM
Re: American Women not good Survivalist Wives??? I don't scare easy! (And I've got more lead than silver!:D) -Maddie Excellent! You will fit in here just fine. :D

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