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SilverCity | 10-16-2007 07:02 PM
Kel-tec RFB 1 Attachment(s) Is anyone waiting for one of these?...should come out early in '08 according to factory website. Kel-tec is the one on top...comes in .308 Win, three barrel lengths, takes FAL mags, ejects brass out of a tube in the front... Here is the video: YouTube - KEL-TEC RFB Rifle
YouTube - KEL-TEC RFB Rifle

Baphomet Jones | 10-16-2007 07:03 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB We just need more $300 assault rifles, not $1800 or whatever! :confused_ma: Believe me, I'd love to have one, but I don't spend more money on a gun than I'd spend on a used car, and so far these $500 cars and $300 guns have treated me quite well :tongue_ma:

Baphomet Jones | 10-16-2007 07:04 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB You would think with all of the new technology, we could manufacture an AK47 for $10 :rolleyes_m:

SilverCity | 10-16-2007 07:07 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB 1 Attachment(s) Another picture...

SilverCity | 10-16-2007 07:11 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Kel-tec prices on their SU-16 and SUB 2000 rifles are reasonable for what they are, I guess. We will have to wait and see on the RFB... Yeah, nothing made in the good ol' U.S.A. is cheap any more..

RaccoonRiverRadical | 10-16-2007 07:55 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB I have a kel-tec 16. Should have got the mini 14.

<SLV> | 10-16-2007 07:56 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB SUB-2000 is a fun gun. I just used mine to punch holes in a new burn barrel. :D

drafter | 10-16-2007 08:10 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB I'd rather have the Para-FAL.

Wyldwil | 10-16-2007 09:28 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB I was just thinking about this rifle this morning. It probably will become my only battle rifle when I scrape up enough jack to pick one up. Early '08 they say. Right next door in Cocoa, Florida. Kel-tec has grown leaps and bounds. Kinda like Taurus.

flash91 | 10-17-2007 10:46 AM
Re: Kel-tec RFB I've been eyeing the keltec plr-16, talked myself out of buying one about 3 times now, but its getting tougher. anyone have any experience with these?

Professur | 10-17-2007 11:20 AM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by Baphomet Jones (Post 782597) You would think with all of the new technology, we could manufacture an AK47 for $10 :rolleyes_m:
They can ..... but why would you sell it for that when you can get more for it, and still sell everything you manufacture? 4000% profit is better than 10%, no?

Anty Ep | 10-17-2007 11:26 AM
Re: Kel-tec RFB if Im gettin a kel tec its gonna be one of them plastic handguns in 380 that are light as a feather and about as wide as a the round itself. man I been wantin one dem for years. back eight years ago I opted for the naa 32 instead, poor choice, that thing is heavy as shite, makes my pants sag when i chunk it in my back pocket

Codger | 10-17-2007 11:43 AM
Re: Kel-tec RFB I have been looking at a few different Kel-tecs and have held off because nobody I know is familiar with their quality. Is the plr 16 the .223 pistol that is basically an AR-15? That is one I have considered as well as the pistol in 380 that Anty Ep mentioned. Any thoughts? Any experiences?

SilverCity | 10-17-2007 11:55 AM
Re: Kel-tec RFB here is a review of the 380: http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/p3at_review.htm

drafter | 10-17-2007 12:02 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB So what happens when the extraction tube gets a ding in it or clogged by a deformed shell?

SilverCity | 10-17-2007 12:06 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB a good question...

Toxa | 10-17-2007 12:59 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB I want to see that rifle full of sand and mud fire 1000 rounds with out jamming. Then I'll think about buying it.

<SLV> | 10-17-2007 01:47 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 783738) here is a review of the 380: http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/p3at_review.htm
I own a flock of Kel-Tecs for this reason (from above link): Addendum: The P3AT came back. I had returned it because I was finished with it for the purposes of the review. Evidently they thought I returned it for service and worked some serious magic on it. The paper in the box said �REPAIR WORK ORDER � Malfunction type: Jams. Repair: Replaced slide and barrel assembly, test fired.� I can tell you one thing for sure � they did more than just replace the slide. The trigger is now about (I don�t have a trigger scale here to measure) 6 to 8 pounds and breaks crisp and clean. All the problems with the trigger I mentioned before� gone. If this trigger was on a S&W revolver, you would be well pleased and the corners of your mouth would curl up into a smirk. But this isn�t. This is on a tiny little pocket auto. So instead of a smirk you would be wearing a big Cheshire class grin. This is not the same gun I sent back� can�t be. I had to double check the serial number to be sure it was the same gun. Yup, it is. If I was a Kel-Tec owner and this was my gun� I�d be doing a Snoopy Style Happy Dance. The gun was delivered to them, according to Fed-Ex tracking, exactly 2 weeks from yesterday. They blessed this little gun and sent it back over night in only 2 weeks. That flat out impresses the hell out of me. Last gun I sent back to the maker, Springfield, took a month and 4 days. This kind of service, if this is what Kel-Tec customers get on a regular basis� this raises the bar. Two thumbs up. Now, I really don�t want to sent this gun back yet I am obligated to do so. This gun, is not mine and remains the property of Kel-Tec CNC. Damn.

buff01 | 10-17-2007 03:08 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Looks like a great gun, nothing I'd spend over $600 on though. I've been avoiding .308 anyway because it's just too damn expensive.

Anty Ep | 10-17-2007 03:20 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 783738) here is a review of the 380: http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/p3at_review.htm
huh, I cant suffer unreliable, but if I get a lemon they will fix it up. maybe I can live with that. I'll thnk about it. I guess I wont buy one used. I wonder if this would be a good first in pimp style (chrome). I have always favored park'd but maybe its time for a change up in style lol my makarov is heavy as shit, the naa 32 is heavy, the 380 feg ppk clone is heavy. all too heavy. I need a nice slick narrow one and then I will be inclined to carry more often. the best gun is the one you have when you need it.

eyeofliberty | 10-17-2007 03:40 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by drafter (Post 783761) So what happens when the extraction tube gets a ding in it or clogged by a deformed shell?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxa (Post 783858) I want to see that rifle full of sand and mud fire 1000 rounds with out jamming. Then I'll think about buying it.
These are two VERY good points. Sure, it looks cool, but what if...

Wyldwil | 10-17-2007 03:50 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxa (Post 783858) I want to see that rifle full of sand and mud fire 1000 rounds with out jamming. Then I'll think about buying it.
Not an AR fan either then are you?

<SLV> | 10-17-2007 04:59 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 784086) huh, I cant suffer unreliable, but if I get a lemon they will fix it up. maybe I can live with that. I'll thnk about it. I guess I wont buy one used. I wonder if this would be a good first in pimp style (chrome). I have always favored park'd but maybe its time for a change up in style lol my makarov is heavy as shit, the naa 32 is heavy, the 380 feg ppk clone is heavy. all too heavy. I need a nice slick narrow one and then I will be inclined to carry more often. the best gun is the one you have when you need it.
... they honor the lifetime warranty no matter who bought it first.

Toxa | 10-17-2007 05:46 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 784119) Not an AR fan either then are you?
How do you figure? I buy guns by how they perform in real world not by how they perform at shooting range.

Baphomet Jones | 10-17-2007 06:28 PM
Re: Kel-tec RFB Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 783687) They can ..... but why would you sell it for that when you can get more for it, and still sell everything you manufacture? 4000% profit is better than 10%, no?
Their profits don't concern me, as a matter of fact, I kinda hope KelTec goes out of business. $1800 for a piece of plastic? They're insane. Also, no need to tell me "blah blah, it costs money to design" and all that shit, I know. I just hate these patriotic made in the good old USA companies that don't care about anything but profit. During the next gun ban, gun manufacturers should manufacture nothing but fully automatic versions of their weapons and distribute them widely for the purposes of overthrowing the dictatorship :rant: But I'd be ok with them just not charging $1800 for something I could homebrew for $700. I'll just buy a mill I guess :rolleyes_m:

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