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Igotyour6 | 05-27-2009 03:42 PM
if some one is looking for a "bug out location" here is a bug out location not to far from me. closest big city is 4 hour drive water, shelter, firewood, land to hunt, raise food, and animals, rifle practice. http://www.nex-tech.com/FreeClassifi...171860&cpage=1 Real Estate: 97 acre farm 5 bed 2 1/2 bath We are moving so we must sell our farm. It is on 97 acres of grass with about 10 acres of it being a heavily wooded area, the home has 5 bedrooms on the main floor and a half basement. The house has hard wood floors, stove, refrigerator, built in microwave, rented Culligan water softer, propane pulse 80 % efficient heater, air conditioner, washer, dryer, wood stove, satellite high speed internet, satellite TV. The out buildings consist of a two car garage with cement floor, a work shop with cement floor, a chicken house with cement floor, wash house, two flat bottom grain bins, 7 grain bins with concave floors, two old barns and an old grainery, one windmill and one wind mill tower 4 wells, a garden area, corals, round pen for horse training. Their are two apple trees, two cherry trees, two peach trees, one mulberry tree, and wild plum bushes. No one has been allowed hunting access on this property for decades so you can sit on your porch and watch turkey and deer in the mornings and evenings, there is an abundance of other wild life such as raccoons, coyotes, pheasants, many different song birds, finches, owls, hawks, and falcons. Our farm is located 20 minutes to Atwood, Oberlin, or Herndon, KS; 50 minutes to Colby, KS, McCook, NE, or Swanson Lake (by Trenton, NE), and Norton Lake is about an hour away. If you are looking for a hobby farm this is an excellent opportunity to get started this spring, if you are looking for hunting property only, there are several people wanting to rent the pasture and the house during the off season. This is one of the nicest locations in Rawlins County, the house sits down in a draw and has trees all around. You will never find an opportunity like this at this price again. $90,000 http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/...72425057jvmzTb

Shorty_Harris | 05-27-2009 04:14 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Nice! At first glance I thought that it was located near Rawlins Wyoming. Rawlins Wyoming is my ultimate goal. Got family there. Just my kind of place.

AgAuGal | 05-27-2009 04:51 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" that sure sounds nice. wish there were pics

Cassius | 05-27-2009 04:58 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Kansas is like the cheapest state in the country. In fact there are still towns in Kansas that will give you FREE land if you promise to build a house on it. http://www.kansasfreeland.com/

Jimfrancisco | 05-27-2009 05:04 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Not being sarcastic - is there a reason for that? Is something wrong with Kansas? I have a few houses scattered around the (developed) world, and something like this would seem ideal to add to my portfolio - do they have horribly high property taxes or anything? Gross unemployment?

NOOB | 05-27-2009 05:15 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by AgAuGal (Post 1741311) that sure sounds nice. wish there were pics
Go to the second link tons of pics. That is an absolute steal. Never been to kansas before but Dorothy seemed to like it.

Shorty_Harris | 05-27-2009 05:23 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfrancisco (Post 1741340) Not being sarcastic - is there a reason for that? Is something wrong with Kansas? I have a few houses scattered around the (developed) world, and something like this would seem ideal to add to my portfolio - do they have horribly high property taxes or anything? Gross unemployment?
Dude, Its KANSAS! :sarc:

Silver Stater | 05-27-2009 11:58 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" That place looks great and you can't beat the price. Thanks for posting.

Goldhedge | 05-28-2009 12:53 AM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Nice place. It's about 4 1/2 hours from where I live in Colorado. How's the weather up there? Tornadoes? What about snakes etc. Wife hates snakes. What do they farm around there? What is land/farm going for in relation to this place?

rad | 05-28-2009 01:11 AM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" 1 Attachment(s) Not everything is flat in kansas

Igotyour6 | 05-29-2009 07:31 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 1742175) Nice place. It's about 4 1/2 hours from where I live in Colorado. How's the weather up there? Tornadoes? What about snakes etc. Wife hates snakes. What do they farm around there? What is land/farm going for in relation to this place?
Weather is about the same as it is in the eastern part of Colorado, not as much snow as a general rule, we have tornado warnings during the spring and summer, but have been lucky not to have had any! knock on wood! farming is wheat, milo, corn , soy beans, alfalfa, sun flowers and a lot of cattle. this is just a little bit higher than if it was at auction, but on the other hand I have seen simular go higher at auction, just depends on who is in the market. Some people have come in from the eastern states and bought a lot of land. If I remember the last one he was a retired military captain. I think he does cash rent as it seems to be a better place ti invest than in the market.

poor boy | 05-29-2009 08:39 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Kansas rocks ! I have taken 3 trips to Kansas in the last month and a half for buisness reasons and I must say I was very impressed with the locals I met. Look forward to going back one day !

ForestGump | 05-29-2009 08:56 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Ten or so years ago i lived with one of my uncles in Paolo who owns a small ranch,gravel road,nearest neighbor maybe a mile or so. My father was born in Independence. Now that done with my wild youth days i have debated going there for good,as a city boy i do just fine with those people over there,very kind people imo.

TUMS | 05-29-2009 09:03 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" If I was rich i'd own a place there simply for the pheasant hunting. South Dakota might be my #1 pick though..

Goldhedge | 05-29-2009 10:30 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Igotyour6 (Post 1745004) Weather is about the same as it is in the eastern part of Colorado, not as much snow as a general rule, we have tornado warnings during the spring and summer, but have been lucky not to have had any! knock on wood! farming is wheat, milo, corn , soy beans, alfalfa, sun flowers and a lot of cattle. this is just a little bit higher than if it was at auction, but on the other hand I have seen simular go higher at auction, just depends on who is in the market. Some people have come in from the eastern states and bought a lot of land. If I remember the last one he was a retired military captain. I think he does cash rent as it seems to be a better place ti invest than in the market.
What could you rent this place for? Might be worth considering if you could cover the mortgage. What would the house rent for? (if you got someone who didn't farm) What about the crops? Could you rent the land to a farmer who wanted to plant and harvest? How much?

Between The Wheels | 05-29-2009 10:38 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 1745265) What could you rent this place for? Might be worth considering if you could cover the mortgage. What would the house rent for? (if you got someone who didn't farm) What about the crops? Could you rent the land to a farmer who wanted to plant and harvest? How much?
Good point. What about CRP?

Unclad Lad | 05-30-2009 02:50 AM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" As long as nuclear war isn't one of the SHTFs you're prepping for, it looks perfect.

Jimfrancisco | 05-30-2009 01:10 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorty_Harris (Post 1741380) Dude, Its KANSAS! :sarc:
Honestly, I know nothing about Kansas - is it a horribly bad state to live in, or what is wrong with it? There are a load of cheap houses and farms there after a bit of looking, why is it so cheap? Is it the new Detroit?

Between The Wheels | 05-30-2009 01:54 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfrancisco (Post 1745953) Honestly, I know nothing about Kansas - is it a horribly bad state to live in, or what is wrong with it? There are a load of cheap houses and farms there after a bit of looking, why is it so cheap? Is it the new Detroit?
Just my .02, Kansas like Cali has an urban/rural split. Lots of dying farm towns like elsewhere in the Midwest. The kids don't want to stay. The town where the university from which I graduated is located is Hays (western KS). Damn hot in summer, colder in winter. Tornados of course. Not a lot of rainfall. The Volga Germans who settled there succeeded because of their mastery of dryland farming. Like many small towns if you are not of Volga German descent, or whatever local clique, you will always be an outsider. More trees, rain, lower elevation in the east, but closer to KC (not a plus). If looking to Kansas I would find something as far from KC, OKC, Denver, Omaha as possible (Don't forget our friends from the south flocking to Kansas, either.) As noted above, KS also likely to receive mucho nukes should a fracas of that nature break out, along with Nebraska and Colorado.

Igotyour6 | 05-30-2009 02:03 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" no, not the new Detroit, just mostly agriculture, not really any foreclosures to speak of, occasionally but not on the scale in other areas of the country. as far as living here I do not mind it, but I grew up in rural areas so driving 50 minutes on open highway to a walmart does not bother me, the closest mall is 2 hour drive, and so on and so forth so people are less likely to live in these areas so prices reflect that. The fear of tornado also, but Dallas Texas is just as likely to have a tornado as I am in Kansas. I find it appealing that should things get bad it is a four hour drive to any city the size of Denver, even longer if zombies are walking and having to forage for food and water along the way. not to mention that so many people are very self suficient, they still have all of the equipment and stuff to deal with hard times. I know many people who still have an old forge in their barn or shop, just because they or their grand dad used it and well there it sits. some people do not like Kansas but most of the people I met that talk down this state really have never been here for more than driving through on the interstate.

Jimfrancisco | 05-31-2009 04:48 AM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" You make it sound like - exactly the sort of place I would like to buy property! A 4 hour drive from the city is a long walk, and I can prep the place for storms, have a huge freezer, etc...

TUMS | 05-31-2009 09:39 AM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" One thing about Kansas is, it's cold. Heating bills are high. Not a lot of woods compared to places like Idaho or Montana. That property at least has 10 acres of trees on it. That is good but i'd save them, harvest them in a real emergency.

aybesee123 | 05-31-2009 07:25 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" I can't locate the actual ad...

Ag_man | 05-31-2009 09:29 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Between The Wheels (Post 1745999) As noted above, KS also likely to receive mucho nukes should a fracas of that nature break out, along with Nebraska and Colorado.
Actually, there aren't any nuclear weapons based in Kansas, Nebraska, or Colorado anymore.

horseshoe3 | 06-01-2009 12:28 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfrancisco (Post 1741340) Not being sarcastic - is there a reason for that? Is something wrong with Kansas? I have a few houses scattered around the (developed) world, and something like this would seem ideal to add to my portfolio - do they have horribly high property taxes or anything? Gross unemployment?
It's a terrible place. Nobody in his right mind would live there. The weather is awful (didn't you see the Wizard of OZ?) The people are mean and the girls are ugly. And besides, it's flat. Nothing to see here. Just move along.

Golddust | 06-01-2009 01:15 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by horseshoe3 (Post 1748710) It's a terrible place. Nobody in his right mind would live there. The weather is awful (didn't you see the Wizard of OZ?) The people are mean and the girls are ugly. And besides, it's flat. Nothing to see here. Just move along.
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thorgrim | 06-01-2009 01:40 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Quote:
Originally Posted by TUMS (Post 1746923) One thing about Kansas is, it's cold. Heating bills are high. Not a lot of woods compared to places like Idaho or Montana. That property at least has 10 acres of trees on it. That is good but i'd save them, harvest them in a real emergency.
If you are properly managing a 10 acre woodlot you shouldn't run out of wood.

Jimfrancisco | 06-01-2009 01:45 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" Not to mention you could considerably expand that with a lot of willow, and biomass heating...

AMforPM | 06-01-2009 03:14 PM
Re: if some one is looking for a "bug out location" That's a great place. I'm not in the market yet, but because small farming is dying out and Kansas was always lower population density than many places, it truly is bugging out, yet the people are that really great old style American. You get the full force of continental climate: both sizzling hot summers and blizzard winters with tornados between. No mountains or oceans to moderate it. And it is right on the edge of too dry to farm, so you would need to plan your permaculture set up to catch a lot of water for fruit trees and the garden. A little contract dozer work can put in swales to catch several acres of rain and concentrate it to soak in where your orchard, hen grain acre, and garden are. Then even in dry years your food supply would likely be secure. (with a water gate to not drown your food in wet years) Irrigating with well water eventually harms fertility, so it should be reserved for emergency only. And on that much pasture and room for hay you could likely keep a milk cow and beef calf even in anything but dust bowl dry years. It isn't time for me yet, but I like it a lot. You would be really far from the crowds. Especially if it is far from any major highway.

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