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Canadian-guerilla | 12-29-2009 10:20 AM
Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa 67 minutes - LANGUAGE http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title...e_on_the_mesa/

TechGuy | 12-29-2009 10:24 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa So is there a requirement for anti-gov loner communities to be totally trashed out? Do you have be surrounded be so much trash? Could they not just designate a 'dump' area?

Nomen luni | 12-29-2009 12:31 PM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa I really enjoyed that documentary. Very touching and kind of sad, especially the young girl who had a kid at the end. I hope it works out for her.

gunDriller | 12-29-2009 03:07 PM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 2098942) So is there a requirement for anti-gov loner communities to be totally trashed out? Do you have be surrounded be so much trash? Could they not just designate a 'dump' area?
it could be a strategic decision to make the place look low rent.

BeeYourself | 12-30-2009 02:07 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa I really enjoyed this movie. Scrappers... They could live off the scrap metal forever. This is real and I like that. Coming soon to suburban america.

Nomen luni | 12-30-2009 06:11 AM
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it could be a strategic decision to make the place look low rent.
I like your thinking, but then again, maybe they are just lazy bums. :smile: What was it, one bath a fortnight So I wonder who owns that land?

glockngold | 12-30-2009 08:30 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa A well done documentary, with nice soundtrack & beautiful surroundings. The title however, is misleading. It should be "Living off of the grid" Somewhere a roughneck drilled for the oil they burn in their pickups to drive to town where they take the free food that some farmer spent months growing & some factory baked bread & stuck in a plastic bag. Virginia (I believe was her name the young freckle faced girl) will no doubt produce a baby Einstein. (keep on smokin that crack darlin) She went to Walmart for her pregnancy test. Can't get more on the grid than Walmart. Quote:
it could be a strategic decision to make the place look low rent
I doubt it. Quote:
Scrappers... They could live off the scrap metal forever. This is real and I like that.
Not really. It's only real if you are a '"sentence person" instead of a paragraph person"......... You can't live off of scrap metal. You can't eat it. You have to sell it to the "grid" to get cash to buy stuff the "grid" produces. The grid made the solar collectors. The grid made the ammo. The grid made the pickups. The grid made the plastic film used in the greenhouse. That said... I did like the pig farmer.

damoc | 12-30-2009 10:10 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa yep the old coot pig farmer seemed pretty decent and at least he is doing something. a good flick but "off the grid" was very misleading as to what it was about, what they were doing. i got a chuckle every time they talked about elders and councils a real off grid comunity would have something worked out for water and food not a monthly hike to the river for a comunal skinny dip and a trip to meet the truck for charity food. sadly i think what we just saw is the reality of many offgrid comunities maybee 1 or 2 enthusiastic people willing to work wanting to realy be independant and a lot more just dropping out and feeding of other peoples work. the radical vegans were also a laugh

3x3l3r8 | 12-30-2009 10:25 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa I liked the idea of the elders and councils - if it really worked. I agree it's not really "off the grid" in the strictest sense, since they're taking charity food. This video seems a little prophetic to me.

damoc | 12-30-2009 10:50 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa Quote:
Originally Posted by 3x3l3r8 (Post 2100508) I liked the idea of the elders and councils - if it really worked. I agree it's not really "off the grid" in the strictest sense, since they're taking charity food. This video seems a little prophetic to me.
i like the idea of elders and local councils also but when they talked that way they just sounded like they were playing at being spiritual/american indian government etc what i would have like to see in a film like this would be old coot pig farmer methane digesting and piping the gas to the rest of the comunity for cooking and a windmill pumping water from a well or even that river 5 miles away irrigating a little oasis of hippie or vet farmers i didnt want to say this because of the vets in the flick whom i have the greatest respect for and if after being in a war they need to drop out for a bit smoke a bit drink a bit set fire to the odd car thats fine by me.but for the most part all i saw apart from old coot were a bunch of lazy drug addicts with guns it seemed a little prophetic to me also

Tecumseh | 12-30-2009 11:42 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa I only watched a little bit of it but had similar feelings to what others here have mentioned. They are real people and I guess I wish them the best - you can relate to much of their feelings and basic humanity but "a bunch of lazy drug addicts with guns" was sort of what I felt too. I also agree that its not really "off the grid". I couldn't help of think of certain posters here and chuckle.

TechGuy | 12-30-2009 01:33 PM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa Quote:
Originally Posted by 3x3l3r8 (Post 2100508) I liked the idea of the elders and councils - if it really worked. I agree it's not really "off the grid" in the strictest sense, since they're taking charity food. This video seems a little prophetic to me.
There is a lesson here for the anarchists... Governments ALWAYS form when a group of people gather to live in a community. Anarchy is ALWAYS temporary. The trick is to develop a fair representative government, and to make sure those that wish for governments of some ism ilk are shown the door.

Zusn | 12-31-2009 12:04 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa I wanted to only watch a little bit and I ended up getting sucked into the entire thing. I really liked the pig farmer. Very productive, helped anyone who came to him, gentle. I damn near cried when he started crying during the story of his childhood. A lot of the other people were strung out on something and/or mentally unstable. I've been around a lot of people like that in my life and it's not fun. As for the vegan anarchist kids. They would have left the council meeting stacked up in the back of a pickup truck. Breaking into houses and stealing other people's food because they were "hoarding" it? Life out there looked rough enough without a bunch of douche bag city kids bringing their street attitude with them.

thrifty_bob | 12-31-2009 12:33 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa Oh well, if nothing else it shows that off the grid doesn't mean the same things to everyone. There were obviously some good people there, but too high a percentage of trouble for someone like me. Maybe 30 yrs ago when I was young and crazy it would have been fun, but times change. Contrast it to the Taos Earthship homes. I liked the looks of that a lot better, but the price tags for anything more than 1 bedroom got real high it looked. But at least they are generating their own power, growing their own food, etc. That part of it, and the emphasis on it, I really liked.

Rebel Yarr | 12-31-2009 01:51 AM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa Good to watch... another reason why to be careful in buying property/selecting a bug out location... I do not want to end up around a buncha lazy meth heads like most of em.

Unclad Lad | 12-31-2009 02:57 PM
Re: Off the Grid: Life On The Mesa Quote:
Contrast it to the Taos Earthship homes. I liked the looks of that a lot better, but the price tags for anything more than 1 bedroom got real high it looked.
Earthships were designed to be owner built. All you need is a good supply of tires and time to do it.

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