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Agamemnon | 07-04-2008 08:35 PM
Turkey Trap For the survivalist that has everything legal and not so legal dept; Get an old box bed spring set, with the old coils springs, find it in a junk yard or still with the covering on it at a yard sale . Burn off the covering, leaves you with just the old box springs. Take it too your favorite turkey hunting spot, drop it on the ground. Get a bucket of corn feed, cracked corn is best, dump it on the box springs, should fall to the ground inside the perimeter of the bed coils. Go home. Come back the next day about noon, take your favorite 22 pistol/rifle. The box spring set will be loaded with a bunch of birds. Their necks stuck in the coil springs. Shoot the stupid birds, pluck/clean them and fill your freezer. Disclaimer; For information purpose only, blah, blah, blah ...

WAoG | 07-04-2008 11:03 PM
Re: Turkey Trap Thank you.

oldmansmith | 07-05-2008 07:11 AM
Re: Turkey Trap That is a horrible, terrible, highly illegal suggestion. Thank you very much.

Canadian-guerilla | 07-05-2008 07:17 AM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 1177089) For the survivalist that has everything legal and not so legal dept;
if TSHittingTF gets as bad as myself and others think if may people won't even consider if it's legal or not

jamesfrancisco | 07-05-2008 07:43 AM
Re: Turkey Trap I wish we had wild turkeys in the UK - I love turkey breast for quality, low fat protein.

mtnman | 07-05-2008 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jamesfrancisco (Post 1177533) I wish we had wild turkeys in the UK - I love turkey breast for quality, low fat protein.
Wild Turkey is considerably different from domestic Turkey. The breast on a wild turkey is almost dark meat. I had all but forgotten the Turkey trap, thanks for reminding me. It goes hand in hand with the fishing tricks, like a burlap bag half full of black walnuts tossed in the creek.

Twisted Avatar | 07-05-2008 09:49 AM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1177601) Wild Turkey is considerably different from domestic Turkey. The breast on a wild turkey is almost dark meat. I had all but forgotten the Turkey trap, thanks for reminding me. It goes hand in hand with the fishing tricks, like a burlap bag half full of black walnuts tossed in the creek.
How dose this burlap bag work MM?? T

mtnman | 07-05-2008 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1177616) How dose this burlap bag work MM?? T
You take a burlap bag and fill it half full of ripe Black Walnuts still in the hulls. Tie it shut. Stomp on it several times to crush the hulls. Tie a rope to the bag. Now take this to the creek you fish in, bring a fish net. Go to your favorite fishing hole, go UP stream about 50 yards. Toss the bag of crushed Walnuts in the creek, tie off the rope. Go back down to the fishing hole. Wait a few minutes and soon you will see the fish coming up to the surface of the water, catch them with your net. When you have enough, pull the bag out. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> What happens is the Tannic Acid in the Black Walnut hulls robs the oxygen from the water and the fish come to the surface in search of oxygen. When you remove the bag everything goes back to normal. Don't get caught.

Twisted Avatar | 07-05-2008 10:25 AM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1177641) You take a burlap bag and fill it half full of ripe Black Walnuts still in the hulls. Tie it shut. Stomp on it several times to crush the hulls. Tie a rope to the bag. Now take this to the creek you fish in, bring a fish net. Go to your favorite fishing hole, go UP stream about 50 yards. Toss the bag of crushed Walnuts in the creek, tie off the rope. Go back down to the fishing hole. Wait a few minutes and soon you will see the fish coming up to the surface of the water, catch them with your net. When you have enough, pull the bag out. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> What happens is the Tannic Acid in the Black Walnut hulls robs the oxygen from the water and the fish come to the surface in search of oxygen. When you remove the bag everything goes back to normal. Don't get caught.
Wow......... I never heard about that before...... why is the state busting chomps over something like that (sound simple) ....... if enough people do it dose it mess up the stream or something??? T

Iptuous | 07-05-2008 10:29 AM
Re: Turkey Trap I love hearing methods like these! (so effective they're illegal) question to both methods.... have you personally tested.....i mean.....witnessed someone ELSE testing them to good effect? When i hear these, i always wonder that...... for the turkey trap....do you know what makes them unable to pull their heads out of the coils? for the tannic acid fishing....i would assume it has to be a fairly low flow stream for this to work, no?

ShirleyUGeste | 07-05-2008 10:35 AM
Re: Turkey Trap Mtnman, I may disagree with you on SOME issues, but the more of your posts that I read (and Agamemnon's) the more I wish we were neighbors! We have thousands of wild turkeys here in the PacNW, and I live within two miles of a large river and a great fishing creek. I even have an old box spring out in the shed that I was going to haul to the dump, and a neighbor with a walnut tree. Thanks to you guys, when TSHTF you can bet I'll be serving plenty of fish and turkey! Thanks.

mtnman | 07-05-2008 10:38 AM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 1177651) I love hearing methods like these! (so effective they're illegal) question to both methods.... have you personally tested.....i mean.....witnessed someone ELSE testing them to good effect? When i hear these, i always wonder that...... for the turkey trap.... for the tannic acid fishing....i would assume it has to be a fairly low flow stream for this to work, no?
I've been witness to the Walnut trick, and yes, not a fast running stream. The bed spring trick was popular when my Father was young.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> "do you know what makes them unable to pull their heads out of the coils?" Look at a bed spring, the coils get smaller at one end. Push your head through and you can't pull it out.

ShirleyUGeste | 07-05-2008 10:51 AM
Re: Turkey Trap [QUOTE=mtnman;Look at a bed spring, the coils get smaller at one end. Push your head through and you can't pull it out./QUOTE] Not only that, but turkeys are incredibly stupid...or at least the domesticated species is. I tried raising them years ago. Out of 10 turkeys, three of them drowned in their 3" deep water dish, two ate themselves to death, and two of them crawled inside the feed sack and suffocated. One of the turkeys decided that our St. Bernard was its mother and drove that poor dog to distraction for weeks. Then one day the dog rolled over while taking a nap, and the demented turkey was no more. One of the birds that made it to (almost) adulthood tried to mate with our female mallard. Mallards mate for life, so the turkey was promptly killed by our male mallard. What a waste!

jamesfrancisco | 07-05-2008 11:49 AM
Re: Turkey Trap Mtnmam, I've been lurking here for sooo long, and your little tricks and tips never cease to amaze me. I actually prefer the dark leg meat from our domestic turkeys, but I imagine the wild stuff probably tastes totally different. Personally, grout and pheasant are my "easy shoot" favourite food, with rabbit coming a fair bit down the list - I love a good rabbit stew but sometimes you want something you can just dig into, whole, you know? Venison, for me, beats ANY meat. I remember shooting my first deer with my father when I was 11, maybe 12, him hanging it up from a tree and bleeding it, then putting two stripes of it's blood down each side of my face. That's what his father did to him, and his Grandfather did to my dad. Your first kill, you wear the blood all day, was the tradition. I was repulsed when he gutted it, but it taught me that meat doesn't just grow in a butcher's shop, it all has blood and guts involved - and since then I have never looked back. Venison steak cooked REALLY rare is something I wish I could eat more often, but there aren't too many deer on my land so Bambi steak is a treat. I wish I could persuade them to breed better and faster... viagra hanging from trees or something... :D

mtnman | 07-05-2008 12:30 PM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfrancisco (Post 1177706) Mtnmam, I've been lurking here for sooo long, and your little tricks and tips never cease to amaze me. I actually prefer the dark leg meat from our domestic turkeys, but I imagine the wild stuff probably tastes totally different. Personally, grout and pheasant are my "easy shoot" favourite food, with rabbit coming a fair bit down the list - I love a good rabbit stew but sometimes you want something you can just dig into, whole, you know? Venison, for me, beats ANY meat. I remember shooting my first deer with my father when I was 11, maybe 12, him hanging it up from a tree and bleeding it, then putting two stripes of it's blood down each side of my face. That's what his father did to him, and his Grandfather did to my dad. Your first kill, you wear the blood all day, was the tradition. I was repulsed when he gutted it, but it taught me that meat doesn't just grow in a butcher's shop, it all has blood and guts involved - and since then I have never looked back. Venison steak cooked REALLY rare is something I wish I could eat more often, but there aren't too many deer on my land so Bambi steak is a treat. I wish I could persuade them to breed better and faster... viagra hanging from trees or something... :D
The blood marks on your face is a little tamer than I remember. I remember taking a bite of the fresh heart of the first deer. I had a customer today that had hit a deer last night. I asked if he took the backstrap? He looked at me like I had two heads. So I said, "you know, the tenderloins" once again I got the weird look. Then he said he was a "City boy". I told him that's too bad, you might as well have gotten some good meat for the torn up bumper. Here in Claiborne County everyone listens to the Police radio. If there�s a call for a deer versus car accident report, you had better be in your truck already to get there first for the deer cause there's a half dozen people headed that way. Tennessee has a �Road Kill Law� the animal is free for the taking after an accident.

jamesfrancisco | 07-05-2008 12:44 PM
Re: Turkey Trap Haha, I think if my mum had heard my dad made me eat a bite of the deer heart, he would be strung up and eviscerated as well! The law here is daft - I regularly hit pheasants, maybe once a month - but if you hit the animal, then taking it home is technically poaching. The car behind you, however, can pick it up and that is legal as they didn't hit it. If I hit a pheasant, it's with my Passat - which knocks the heads nearly off them. And so I go back and get it. Which makes me an evil poacher, haha.

Twisted Avatar | 07-05-2008 01:31 PM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1177735) The blood marks on your face is a little tamer than I remember. I remember taking a bite of the fresh heart of the first deer. I had a customer today that had hit a deer last night. I asked if he took the backstrap? He looked at me like I had two heads. So I said, "you know, the tenderloins" once again I got the weird look. Then he said he was a "City boy". I told him that's too bad, you might as well have gotten some good meat for the torn up bumper. Here in Claiborne County everyone listens to the Police radio. If there’s a call for a deer versus car accident report, you had better be in your truck already to get there first for the deer cause there's a half dozen people headed that way. Tennessee has a “Road Kill Law” the animal is free for the taking after an accident.
Wow......... They swarm like that for dear??.........I guess that would make sense as it is good eating for many moons. T

Meliorist | 07-05-2008 02:30 PM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1177641) [FONT=Arial Black][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial Black]You take a burlap bag and fill it half full of ripe Black Walnuts still in the hulls. Tie it shut. Stomp on it several times to crush the hulls. Tie a rope to the bag. Now take this to the creek you fish in, bring a fish net. Go to your favorite fishing hole, go UP stream about 50 yards. Toss the bag of crushed Walnuts in the creek, tie off the rope. Go back down to the fishing hole. Wait a few minutes and soon you will see the fish coming up to the surface of the water, catch them with your net. When you have enough, pull the bag out.
Thanks for this gem! One question: Since the acid comes from the hulls, can't we remove the (ripe) walnuts and just stomp on the hulls?

mtnman | 07-05-2008 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Meliorist (Post 1177839) Thanks for this gem! One question: Since the acid comes from the hulls, can't we remove the (ripe) walnuts and just stomp on the hulls?
Yes, if they're in short supply. Around here we have LOTS of black walnuts! So many that most people that eat them pour bushels of them in there driveways then drive over them for the next few weeks to remove the hulls.

Maddie | 07-05-2008 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1177782) Wow......... They swarm like that for dear??.........I guess that would make sense as it is good eating for many moons. T
I'll back him on this. I've seen it happen more than once. A deer gets hit and the next few pick-up trucks pull right over, and if the deer isn't completely dead yet, someone will whip out a knife and finish it quickly.

Agamemnon | 07-08-2008 10:34 PM
Re: Turkey Trap Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 1177651) have you personally tested.....i mean.....witnessed someone ELSE testing them to good effect?
For the record, your honor, absolutely not. Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 1177651) When i hear these, i always wonder that...... for the turkey trap....do you know what makes them unable to pull their heads out of the coils?
Yes, I do.

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