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Mill Man | 12-01-2008 08:27 PM
Crazy survivalist hyper patriot paramilitary... Heres an interesting article I spotted in the paper today. <a href="http://dhweb.sv.publicus.com/article/20081201/NEWS03/712019945">Survivalist Cashes in on fear of chaos</a> Survivalist cashes in on fear of chaos By Nicholas K. Geranios Associated Press COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho -- The Armchair Survivalist believes the nation is falling into chaos, and he wants to help. He offers practical advice for dealing with riots, wars, natural disasters and food shortages, which he says are imminent because of the worldwide economic meltdown and the incoming Obama administration. "Too many things are occurring at the same time. It's upsetting people," said the Survivalist, whose real name is Kurt Wilson. So this Martha Stewart for the camo-and-compound crowd provides valuable information on nonperishable foods, portable water purifiers and defensive weapons. His catalog business, Survival Enterprises, sells what you need for the coming hard times. Northern Idaho has long been a magnet for anti- government types and Wilson moved his business here from California in 1998. He operates out of a modest strip mall that is, ironically, on Government Way in Coeur d'Alene. Much of the work is packing and shipping orders for survival supplies such as canned bacon with a camouflage label and cases of military MREs. Wilson started "The Armchair Survivalist" radio show about a year ago because so many people were asking him for advice on what he considered simple problems. The Saturday show can be heard over his Web site, on shortwave radio, or a few broadcast stations. The survivalist movement was considered somewhat on the decline since it peaked around 1996, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which studies fringe movements around the country. But the SPLC warned last week of a rise in "hyper-survivalist paramilitary groups" as a result of the Obama election. "Some conspiracy theorists and fringe "Patriot" radio hosts are seeking to reverse that course by calling on their friends and countrymen to arm themselves, organize and head for the hills in preparation for a fast-approaching second Civil War," the SPLC said on its web site. Jim Rawles, editor of survivalblog.com said unique visits to his site are climbing. They've doubled to about 107,000 a week, he said. But he doesn't think Obama's election is the main reason. "The main driver right now is the economic situation," he said. "A lot of people are deeply concerned we are on the cusp of another economic depression." While the term "survivalist" often carries negative connotations of reactionary politics, advocates of the lifestyle say it has a long, proud place in history -- see Lewis and Clark -- and in fiction such as "The Swiss Family Robinson." Barton Biggs, former chief global strategist for Morgan Stanley, recently wrote a book in which he warned that people should anticipate the breakdown of civilized society. He suggested creating a "safe haven" and stocking it with canned food, liquids, medicine, seed, fertilizer and other tools for survival. In the same vein, Wilson devotes most of his program to topics like vacuum packing of food, generator silencing, and fire starting But his politics are also clear. During a recent program he referred to "low-life interesting creatures that crawl over the border to get on Social Security." He said Barack Obama was a communist whose election was largely due to his race. Yet business is booming at levels Wilson has not seen since the Y2K scare. He attributes that to Americans' sense of vulnerability because of economic woes and a series of high profile disasters, most notably Hurricane Katrina. People feel they have to fend for themselves, he said. Wilson spent part of his childhood living in a log cabin in the woods, where he picked up many of the skills once common among rural Americans but now largely forgotten. During the Depression, for example, many Americans survived by planting gardens, he said. Wilson said his show is intended for a mainstream audience, but it's not exactly "Paul Harvey." On a recent program, he ripped the Wall Street bailout package, Democrats, rising taxes, disappearing pensions and the possible expansion of welfare. He warned that the worldwide credit crunch may leave cargo ships stranded in ports, making food imports to the U.S. impossible. He doesn't worry so much about people who live in the country, figuring they can fend for themselves. "The guy in an apartment has no chance in hell," he said.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 12-04-2008 10:11 PM
Re: Crazy survivalist hyper patriot paramilitary... Quote:
The survivalist movement was considered somewhat on the decline since it peaked around 1996, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which studies fringe movements around the country. But the SPLC warned last week of a rise in "hyper-survivalist paramilitary groups" as a result of the Obama election.
I'd bet the numbers are through the freaking roof right now. In 1996 you were forward thinking if you were on the net. This site alone has people from all walks of life. There are MANY sites out there that are starting to hint about TEOTWAWKI. Your average joe is really starting to hear this in his ear. Most people, I would imagine, are close enough to someone, to pick up on some of this chatter. It seemed crazy a year ago, now everybody believes you. At this point, if I were in charge, the only acceptable plan would be to pull the plug and let the citizens riot on one another. I mean, I'm not very smart and I thought of that on my own, imagine what they have in store for you? Gotta be hundreds of contingency plans. They have their finger on the pulse of the net. It is not like we are exactaly speaking in secret here.

Drumblebum | 12-04-2008 10:17 PM
Re: Crazy survivalist hyper patriot paramilitary... Finally, a decent, oldschool GIM thread. I think I'll just hang out here for a while. The crazy on the rest of this board is just too much to take.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 12-04-2008 10:44 PM
Re: Crazy survivalist hyper patriot paramilitary... The non-crazy way to read my post would be, The general populace and therefore the media and government must be aware of record sales. Their lack of comment in the public eye is something to be meditated upon.

wallew | 12-05-2008 02:16 AM
Re: Crazy survivalist hyper patriot paramilitary... Kurt's an OK guy in my book. He was mobbed by the ATF, which is the REAL reason he left California. He had a thriving gun business and the ATF took almost everything he had. I still haven't heard the full story. But I purchased several firearms from him about fifteen years ago and was always impressed with his knowledge and customer service. He also hosts a 'survivalist forum' if you are interested. I don't go there often, but it's been getting busier by the day over the past few weeks. Here's the link to his forum: http://www.survivalenterprises.com/e...ewforum.php?91

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