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Aquaponics08 | 06-14-2009 08:09 PM
DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Long article, lots of graphics. I imagine these stats will get much worse as we head further into the economic mire. Homicide trends in the U.S. Trends by race Racial differences exist, with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/vrace.png To view data, click on the chart. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/orace.png For more information about racial patterns in violent victimization see Key Facts at a Glance. In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites................. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Unclad Lad | 06-16-2009 02:00 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide I'll bet if you were to match up the numbers with percentages of a particular race that lives in a densely populated urban area, you'd see a correlation. Blacks here, Latinos there, etc. Even Asians, who culturally have very strong taboos against shaming the family, when put in high-density environments (in America-this doesn't seem to happen in the "Old Country") will see an increase in gang/tong activities. And as for victims? Whoever is closest. And since most races/cultures are clannish, you are more likely to victimize one of your own. If you look at every wave of immigration through NYC through the 19th and 20th centuries, each group brought with them both great contributors to America, and great criminals. This isn't a racial problem, although I can't exactly define what it is except to say that its population density/poverty/class/language/culture/predjudice driven.

Twisted Avatar | 06-23-2009 10:19 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide I would like the DOJ to do a study to see if there is any corelation between high levels of theft in Corperate America (particulary finance) and certain ethincities. I know they would find theft across the board but I wonder would any particular group stick out like a sore thumb ??? T

Professur | 06-23-2009 10:33 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Those numbers are per 100,000 general population. I'd like to see the numbers as they relate to 100,000 broken down per race. I think you'd see that 7x jump dramatically.

dissident | 06-23-2009 10:36 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 1782701) Those numbers are per 100,000 general population. I'd like to see the numbers as they relate to 100,000 broken down per race. I think you'd see that 7x jump dramatically.
I've looked at these stats numerous times and never thought of that. I just assumed that did the stats based on 100,000 blacks and 100,000 whites. Why have these stats and then base them on the general population? Well regardless the stats speak for themselves.

markt | 06-23-2009 09:27 PM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Adult black males make up 50% of the jail space in America even though only comprising 5% of the population. That means they commit 10X the crime of the average citizen.

scyth | 06-23-2009 09:42 PM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Quote:
Originally Posted by markt (Post 1783578) Adult black males make up 50% of the jail space in America even though only comprising 5% of the population. That means they commit 10X the crime of the average citizen.
Alright, I'll bite........ Might as well be shot as a coyote as a sheep. So, dear readers Is this the result of a pervasive socio/political/economic Prejudice and or Mandate, Which has existed since Columbus brought along his Personal African slave on one of his latter expeditions to the "New World" Or, is it Them thar Spooky Genetic Tendencies What puts all them "People of Color" In jail? Enquiring minds want to know............. By the way, I believe the Irish held that criminal distinction In the early 1800's. Same false reasoning, same false "justice." A similar fate was wrought upon a great number Of the people who came through Ellis Island later on. scyth

Golddust | 06-23-2009 09:51 PM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide In the last few months , in the old black side of town, the cops are getting a bunch more calls than I have ever seen , ever!! It is not only the blacks, as things have gotten worse, in this area ,fights,theft, and other stuff has picked up , like never before. But most of the trouble is in the black side of town. Just saying..

Twisted Avatar | 06-24-2009 06:16 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Quote:
Originally Posted by markt (Post 1783578) Adult black males make up 50% of the jail space in America even though only comprising 5% of the population. That means they commit 10X the crime of the average citizen.
No what It means that the Goons in badges are 10X more likely to harras said group more than others. The justification for picking up "the guilty" is beyond the pale. I just dropped a buddy of mines off the airport this morning and he relayed to me a quick story that had be cracking the hell up but it ties in reall nicley into those figures about him and 4 of his friends were riding in a car fathers day night in Newark. Long story short Cops swoop down on them like Vultures ........and had of them on the wall creating a sideshow. During the course of the search The cops ask my buddy what day his flight leaves. I should explain My buddy is a serious firecracker and has had more scrapes with the Grim Reaper from running in the streets then he can recall.(literally) So he the perfect person a cop wants to have a altercation with AS HE WILL NOT BACK DOWN. Anyways My Pal says to the Goon....... What time am I leaving??? Honestly speaking I wont make it cause your partner over there is doing the "one hand frisk" on my Boy so that can only mean he is planting the drugs with his free hand. So really now......... how do expect me to be catching my flight??? :111::111::111: All heads turn to the other Cop. Blink.....Blink........Blink........Blink After these "brave officers" got caught on his bullsh!t (as the other did not deny the allegation made) they scramble off because (as if one cue) we got a report of shots being fired. I say that to say this........If my buddy didnt have the hard mouth that he did it is a forgone conculsion that all 5 of them would be sitting in a cell still waiting to be areigned. So when you see those 10x stats ..........make sure you factor in a huge amount of bogus sh!t and trumped up charges. Just saying. T

hoarder | 06-24-2009 08:26 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1782690) I would like the DOJ to do a study to see if there is any corelation between high levels of theft in Corperate America (particulary finance) and certain ethincities. I know there would find theft across the board but I wonder would any particular group stick out like a sore thumb ??? T
I agree 100%! Not sure which ethnic group you were referring to, though.

electric-amish | 06-24-2009 08:33 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquaponics08 (Post 1769889) Long article, lots of graphics. I imagine these stats will get much worse as we head further into the economic mire. Homicide trends in the U.S. Trends by race Racial differences exist, with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/vrace.png To view data, click on the chart. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/orace.png For more information about racial patterns in violent victimization see Key Facts at a Glance. In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites................. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
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Jack London | 06-24-2009 09:09 AM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide Begin your life in the ghetto. Your schools are underfunded, and the teachers are the bottom of the barrel as well. (The better ones don't want to be there.) You have few opportunities in your area. Few job opportunities even a bus ride away. You neighborhood is full of people making a fortune selling drugs. They are looked up to and even give money to local charities. You may be one of the few who stay on the straight and narrow (called such for a reason.) Or more likely you end up in a brush with the law before you are 15 years old. (The police representation is probably 10 X what it is in more affluent neighborhoods.) This police record affects your chances of employment. This problem existed before you were born, so many in your family have walked this path before. You see welfare recipients all around you. You don't even have a good role model to look up to. The chance that you will end up breaking the law (and being caught) are so much greater from the outset, that it is a wonder if you don't spend time in jail. This does not excuse you of committing crimes. But it may help others to understand the circumstances that have led you there. And this doesn't mean this is a problem that the people from more affluent areas have to solve by throwing their money at it either. But you cannot take a group of people living in a crime ridden, poverty soaked neighborhood and use their crime statistics to compare to the rest of the population and declare that it is because they are one color or another. The black population of middle class and affluent suburbs is more in line with that of their white neighbors. The comparison is unfair. It is also worth noting here that after WWII, white Americans moved from the cities to the suburbs, but blacks were segregated from those same suburbs. I am 49 (today) and I remember commercials decrying the racially motivated steering committees and segregation policies set up all around the country. Focus on concentrations of people and poverty. You will see plenty enough connection there.

Nanook | 06-25-2009 09:27 PM
Re: DOJ: Blacks 7 Times More Likely To Commit Homicide This crime tends to follow "people of color" as they move into white neighborhoods. The predators follow their prey, thereby ruining another neighborhood. And so on, and so on. Now they get help from the government to infiltrate formerly white areas. Those are the facts, although it's not PC to say so. Oh well, it is what it is. I don't have an answer, other than to defend yourself.

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