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Oz Waver | 10-30-2008 06:42 PM
Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Hi guys, I am writing a guide to surviving the NWO. It is meant for free distribution and I want to know if anybody wants to help with the project. I have written over 10 pages and would like it if people wanted to contribute their ideas towards it. It's just a service to humanity, no badges, no *regalia* anything. It will be interesting to know what you guys think. Please voice your opinions and how you might like to add to it, which knowledge you have. Once completed you may feel free to distribute it far and wide. If we have enough people willing to contribute, I'll post what I've done. Cheers, Oz.

kiwi_envoy | 10-30-2008 06:50 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help It is a great idea Oz Waver. I will contribute where and when I can. Kiwi

Oz Waver | 10-31-2008 03:43 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help C'om guys, you are all meant to be the top of the top. Please put your hand up and be counted. This document is going to go viral and we will be distributing hardcopies of it. Getting the document out is not going to be a problem, creating with great thinking minds is. For example here is a section that need to be created: Water... purification, filter, storage both on the move and permenant with shelter.

Satyr | 10-31-2008 04:06 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help I'd hate to waste my time giving you ideas which you have already considered and added to this project of yours. Perhaps you could provide us with a rough draft of what you have so far? I would gladly read it and contribute where I can.

Osaka | 10-31-2008 04:08 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Why write a guide when GIM already has just about everything you'd need to know, and is already available to the public?

kiwi_envoy | 10-31-2008 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Osaka (Post 1388750) Why write a guide when GIM already has just about everything you'd need to know, and is already available to the public?
yeah but...it aint consolidated. we need preciceness to crucify the cartel for gold especially.

Oz Waver | 10-31-2008 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Osaka (Post 1388750) Why write a guide when GIM already has just about everything you'd need to know, and is already available to the public?
GIM has a small readership, it does not contain all the necessary information, it is difficult to access by the public. It is not viral like a pdf or video. This pdf can be printed out. Sent via email, it is concise and allows people to get a grasp of the entirety in a single source. We need more people, we have decided to use skype as a platform to communicate. Just voice that you want to help and I'll send you my skype username via a PM.

Oz Waver | 10-31-2008 04:57 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help 1 Attachment(s) Great! Got some attention, here's an example of a page...

Oz Waver | 11-01-2008 08:58 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help 1 Attachment(s) Guys, why are so few here stepping up to the plate? You guys will all want this guide and it is a way to help one another... we have 18 pages completed so. We need more people to help. C'om guy! It will be free for EVERYBODY. Here's another sample page.

Ralleia | 11-01-2008 09:07 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help The only areas I feel competent in contributing would be growing vegetables, some season extension techniques and raising chickens (including hens that rear the chicks so you don't need to brood 'em yourself). Otherwise I don't know what I have that is helpful. I have two years of engineering classes? Cooking including Japanese cuisine? Where's the master plan so GIMers can figure out where to plug in?

Oz Waver | 11-01-2008 09:14 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Skype. PM for details or you can post here. If you get on skype I can forward the document and you can examine it and contribute to areas you think is important. Could you write half to one page on growing veges and raising chickens? Also with a research key so people can find out more. Also with your engineering skills what do you think you can contribute/is important to surviving the NWO? I know I lack of lot of knowledge about these other areas this is why together, we can do it.

Ralleia | 11-01-2008 09:38 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Quote:
Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1391683) Skype. PM for details or you can post here. If you get on skype I can forward the document and you can examine it and contribute to areas you think is important. Could you write half to one page on growing veges and raising chickens? Also with a research key so people can find out more. Also with your engineering skills what do you think you can contribute/is important to surviving the NWO? I know I lack of lot of knowledge about these other areas this is why together, we can do it.
Yessir. Though very challenging to condense useful info to one page. What experience level do we assume--some experience or no knowledge whatsoever? I'll plan to have a draft of the garden stuff done by Monday and get some feedback before proceeding. Regarding engineering, those practices and models are more applicable to designing shelter and buildings, roads, infrastructure, heating and cooling, etc. So maybe for the purposes of this effort, perhaps only useful as a sanity check when QCing other writings. I am only a student, and even the masters cannot explain thermodynamics, statics, or fluid mechanics in easily digestible portions. I guess I could also do a blurb on some alternative house building methods--I so hate the under-insulated stick buildings in America. I'll also plan to do a page on alternatives, including underground buildings, earthships, and isulated concrete forms. bancha

Ralleia | 11-01-2008 09:47 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Regarding rejecting the gold and silver standard, I thought the standard failed in 1971 rather than the dollar being fiat since 1913... ???

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 11-01-2008 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralleia (Post 1391731) Regarding rejecting the gold and silver standard, I thought the standard failed in 1971 rather than the dollar being fiat since 1913... ???
I was just going to point that out. He is correct, we exited the silver standard in 1965 onward, and gold in 1971 onward. 1913 was only the newest version of the privately controlled bank, in fact control of American money has gone back and forth between the people and the banks 8 times in American history. As far as helping, I'd love to. I only know a little bit about the real stuff however. Most of my expertise is about obscure stuff. I'd be interested in seeing your page on "convincing others there is a problem"

Ralleia | 11-01-2008 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian (Post 1391812) I'd be interested in seeing your page on "convincing others there is a problem"
Ow! How to condense THAT to one page! With charts and everything. Magnifying glass time? I think that one deserves three pages.

Thomas Jefferson | 11-01-2008 11:32 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help great idea...but what about a manual on how to take down the NWO....recipes for every situation & ocassion....sure i have been and am preapring further...but we need to start confronting and waking up and educating others..... still great idea....i will help when i can.... i suggest also writing up a draft...and then we can "red line " it and add ,expand correct it... Great TJ

HawHee | 11-01-2008 11:43 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Has anyone come up with a plan to pay your mortgage when fiat currency becomes worthless?

Oz Waver | 11-01-2008 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson (Post 1391835) great idea...but what about a manual on how to take down the NWO....recipes for every situation & ocassion....sure i have been and am preapring further...but we need to start confronting and waking up and educating others..... still great idea....i will help when i can.... i suggest also writing up a draft...and then we can "red line " it and add ,expand correct it... Great TJ
We have a basic skeleton so far. It is very powerful, it will definately wake up many many people and then some. But it is so useful to those that also know only bits and pieces. Ok, reciepes for every situation... what did you have in mind? Can you give an outline and I'll let you know which area to go for. We have some stuff on atmospheric poisoning and strategies...

Thomas Jefferson | 11-01-2008 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HawHee (Post 1391851) Has anyone come up with a plan to pay your mortgage when fiat currency becomes worthless?
Yes...just stop paying it....i read that the govt will soon issue re(mort)aging and new laons directly from central banking headquarters...there is no way out but to expand the debt bubble and inflate the monetry supply unless the world is coming to an end..of course the supply -demand "problem has always been solved by a bigger war.... what ever they force you to pay taxes with --theive from you....has to have confidence whether it be slaves,stones ,tally sticks,paper or the coming carbon credits....& confidence comes at the point of a gun....the bottom line in politics has and always will be......a bullet... fart into a bag and send it to the bank in payment...tell them to trade that!! man takes what he needs.... when being human becomes a crime its time to take what you need ...becaise at that point you are the enemy.. mort = death TJ

Oz Waver | 11-01-2008 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralleia (Post 1391722) Yessir. Though very challenging to condense useful info to one page. What experience level do we assume--some experience or no knowledge whatsoever? I'll plan to have a draft of the garden stuff done by Monday and get some feedback before proceeding. Regarding engineering, those practices and models are more applicable to designing shelter and buildings, roads, infrastructure, heating and cooling, etc. So maybe for the purposes of this effort, perhaps only useful as a sanity check when QCing other writings. I am only a student, and even the masters cannot explain thermodynamics, statics, or fluid mechanics in easily digestible portions. I guess I could also do a blurb on some alternative house building methods--I so hate the under-insulated stick buildings in America. I'll also plan to do a page on alternatives, including underground buildings, earthships, and isulated concrete forms. bancha
Bancha, You could always use more than a page... and create a few 'research keys' for people to investigate further. But an outline so that people will have an idea and can implement it easily with only the smallest of knowledge. The shelter one is awesome, exactly what we need. Above ground/underground, up to 2 pages for that. Very critical. Kind of like a 'seed' knowledge, very condensed but high quality. Others, When I get through a couple more pages, I'll put up a draft and we'll tear it up then. Still need someone to do... Water purification/sourcing/storage 1/2 to 1 page summary of indisputable 911 material. Must be hard-hitting.

Thomas Jefferson | 11-02-2008 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1391857) We have a basic skeleton so far. It is very powerful, it will definately wake up many many people and then some. But it is so useful to those that also know only bits and pieces. Ok, reciepes for every situation... what did you have in mind? Can you give an outline and I'll let you know which area to go for. We have some stuff on atmospheric poisoning and strategies...
can something like wikipedia be set upthat can be updated?....you have the "lock" key so that info cannot be deleted....and you ok it.... Your idea is great...i suggested a while ago that we look at "pooling " our information in global NWO economic and geo political stratagies in investing into the right currencies commods etc so as to stay ahead of the currency swaps etc...but no one was interseted.....(that was on my main thread) .... too many are arguing .over "whats happening and "what has happened"....i am ready to bow out of my thread and put 100% reserach in for myself ..because i got no feed back....much better for me....i feel a loss for GIM...however,no use in flooging a dead horse... on my road trip I am also stopping off in DC and doing more research on the book i have been writing on the constitution....at the Library of Congress.. TJ

Oz Waver | 11-02-2008 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson (Post 1391887) can something like wikipedia be set upthat can be updated?....you have the "lock" key so that info cannot be deleted....and you ok it.... Your idea is great...i suggested a while ago that we look at "pooling " our information in global NWO economic and geo political stratagies in investing into the right currencies commods etc so as to stay ahead of the currency swaps etc...but no one was interseted.....(that was on my main thread) .... too many are arguing .over "whats happening and "what has happened"....i am ready to bow out of my thread and put 100% reserach in for myself ..because i got no feed back....much better for me....i feel a loss for GIM...however,no use in flooging a dead horse... on my road trip I am also stopping off in DC and doing more research on the book i have been writing on the constitution....at the Library of Congress.. TJ
Hi TJ, I like your idea, and perhaps we can make that happen in the future. But there are always contenious issues. I guess like most things, there has to be an aim. This way people can contribute and put their hand up for their expertise, write about it. Then we all take a look at the document, edit it and we have our first edition. This is not something that we have a lot of time to talk about. We need people writing about their area of experience. The vision is what it is, and the timeline is by Wednesday... this is the release date. After that maybe if we can get a type of wiki up to ammend and create the second edition.... What do you want to contribute?

Thomas Jefferson | 11-02-2008 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1392049) Hi TJ, I like your idea, and perhaps we can make that happen in the future. But there are always contenious issues. I guess like most things, there has to be an aim. This way people can contribute and put their hand up for their expertise, write about it. Then we all take a look at the document, edit it and we have our first edition. This is not something that we have a lot of time to talk about. We need people writing about their area of experience. The vision is what it is, and the timeline is by Wednesday... this is the release date. After that maybe if we can get a type of wiki up to ammend and create the second edition.... What do you want to contribute?
I will contribute a "thesis" diatribe on the NWO global economic plan & what to invest in etc....i expect this will get attacked severly and hopefully will be updated ,verified,ridiculed and honed to a tool we can all get great clarity from....i am not an expert in economics and global geopolitics but will start the ball rolling..there are many many here more qualified than me..but i agree with your move Oz Waver.....lets build the clarity ...drill through the smokescreens and the sideshows and try and see as clearly as possible..and try and save ourselves all alot time & money by reducing costs and mistakes...peoples mistakes are always of most interest as that is what i have always learned from... I could do Yacht design and building but really i dont think its needed for survival....hmmm or maybe it is ...a whole new outlook to life.... when an idea is updated ,corrected, etc ....well i suppose you will update the "manual" Oz?...or we can?....my contribution certainly will need updating and will need "links" to each premise...such as deflation inflation ..Globalist war models etc...& may need a "mirror " dialouge -thesis that verifies the information as time and govt world global policy continues.... or does that subject need its own thread?.... I am busy with a ton of things although i am putting alot of time into research into the book i am writing now.....all we can do is set the foundation and hope the frameworks gets built... TJ

Oz Waver | 11-02-2008 04:39 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help TJ, Can I suggest doing a half page outline, super condensed just the essence of what you want to put in unexpanded. This way we all save time, and can hone into what parts fit where in the "big" picture of the document. You won't be attacked, and all contributions will be greatly appreciated. Though we must always endeavour to stay on point, I know that you understand that already, so we can 'hit' and 'run' with impact and meaningful, precise, easy-to-understand source. No time to build each 'premise', state your case in simple clear and precise language. No links either, why? Because links get pulled down, so we use research keys. A research key is a phrase that a person punches into google, thus making them the participant and creator of the building using the structure we provide. We want to give them the essences, pure and distilled... factual. Please check your research key to make sure it pulls up the appropriate information. It may be that your info gets 'worked into' the document too, expanded and contracted to fit in. It will be at the end that I will post what we have and we get to have a trash of it. Time is limited. Hopefully you'll have something done soon. Cheers.

steyr_m | 11-02-2008 07:51 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Quote:
Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1388038) Hi guys, I am writing a guide to surviving the NWO. It is meant for free distribution and I want to know if anybody wants to help with the project. I have written over 10 pages and would like it if people wanted to contribute their ideas towards it. It's just a service to humanity, no badges, no *regalia* anything. It will be interesting to know what you guys think. Please voice your opinions and how you might like to add to it, which knowledge you have. Once completed you may feel free to distribute it far and wide. If we have enough people willing to contribute, I'll post what I've done. Cheers, Oz.
I like what you have down so far. Can you post the rest and I can add my 2 cents too... plus help if you want...

Oz Waver | 11-02-2008 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by steyr_m (Post 1393159) I like what you have down so far. Can you post the rest and I can add my 2 cents too... plus help if you want...
Hi Steyr, Because there are different contributors and everyone working on differents parts it has no been collated. So far there is now 20 pages... I'll be putting up a rough draft tommorrow. In the mean time what would you like to see there and what do you think you could contribute on?

Oz Waver | 11-04-2008 01:52 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Hi Guys, Collating material... and working on the doc. Have you guys written something to include? If so can I please request it today. Cheers.

scyth | 11-04-2008 11:15 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Quote:
Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1396650) Hi Guys, Collating material... and working on the doc. Have you guys written something to include? If so can I please request it today. Cheers.
This seems to me to be a very nice precis Of the whole potential doc. You Tube
You Tube
scyth

Ralleia | 11-05-2008 12:48 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Extremely rough draft of a survival vegetable gardening page. I started to write, realized I was going way too long, cut, and now I fear I may be going way too long again. I haven't even gotten to soil amendments or light requirements yet! Please comment: ------------------------------------------------------------------ In the 20th century during periods of resource restriction due to world wars or economic depression, the "victory garden" was a means of supplementing a family's food sources. This article focuses on vegetable production. Most vegetables are grown as annuals. These can be roughly divided as warm-season (killed quickly by frost) or cool-season (will survive mild frost or sometimes even freeze). Cool-season vegetables can be further divided as very or moderately cold-hardy: The most cold hardy can be set in the garden the earliest or even survive a winter. Extremely cold hardy: Kale, swiss chard, parsley, turnip, broccoli rabe, some spinach. Cold hardy: All brassicas (broccoli & cabbage family), lettuce, spinach, peas. Warm-season vegetables should only be planted after the last frost date in your area. If a late frost threatens, then plants should be covered with clotches or blankets for protection. Warm-season vegetables: Tomatoes, peppers, okra, potatoes, eggplant and other nightshades : Most are frost-tender perennials. Indeterminate tomatoes will bear fruit until killed. Suitable for transplanting. Beans : Pole beans will bear until killed. Direct-seed only, pre-soak for faster sproating. Cucurbits : Cucumbers, melons, squash, pumpkins. Suitable for transplanting. Section on soil amendments and NPK? Brief discussion of light requirements. Water?

Oz Waver | 11-05-2008 01:20 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help That looks really great. You can add a bit more if you need to. I don't want to cut you too short. Just I want to whole document to come in under 50 pages. So providing some direction would be awesome... maybe a bit on seeds and storage and havesting them... typically. Also a research key with a few important point you feel is nessecary for people to find out more by themselves.

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Ralleia | 11-05-2008 01:28 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Quote:
Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1398188) That looks really great. You can add a bit more if you need to. I don't want to cut you too short. Just I want to whole document to come in under 50 pages.
Yes, please! Food is very important, (though water much more so.) I should be at final draft tomorrow. I think it is important to have some avid vegetable growers to pick it to pieces. QC is important for all sections.

Oz Waver | 11-05-2008 02:12 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Fantastic... I will await your section before posting what there is so far. It is coming along nicely.

Thomas Jefferson | 11-05-2008 02:27 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Oz ..will have it to you soon (before nov 15) ....sorry,just so dame busy.... as you know things are moving so fast now....Obama scrares the crap out of me...wolf in sheeps clothing...the men behind the puppet are what we need to keep our eyes on.... by the way Oz...great work ....we need more people like your with your attitude.... are you in Australia?..... & who is the worm that gave this thread a one rating!!..come on..front up you coward..if you have a better idea or want to contribute ..front up like an adult...lets see your ideas!!..dont carry out pathetic little cowardly acts..... Once again Oz ...continue with your graet idea... TJ

Oz Waver | 11-05-2008 03:27 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Thanks TJ, It you can get it in early that would be great or it will go into the section edition. Here's a tidbit on Barrack Obama.. Barrack (Hebrew) meaning "Kneel or Blessed" Obama (Luo) meaning "He that is crooked" His name means... Kneel be the crooked one.... and in the Babylonian/Masonic religion it is Lucifer. Obama shares the same 'blue' bloodlines and is a 33degree scottish rite Freemason. He has repeatedly said in his speeches calling for the New World Order... most famously in his speech in Berlin. They are all on the same illuminati team, frightening stuff. This is just one of the parts of their part and why we need to do this project with even more urgency. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...the_name_Obama

Oz Waver | 11-06-2008 03:50 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help 2 Attachment(s) Here are a couple more pages (at random)... just for the others... Anymore contributors? 27 pages and heading to 30... it's getting comprehensive.

Thomas Jefferson | 11-06-2008 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1398410) Thanks TJ, It you can get it in early that would be great or it will go into the section edition. Here's a tidbit on Barrack Obama.. Barrack (Hebrew) meaning "Kneel or Blessed" Obama (Luo) meaning "He that is crooked" .... and in the Babylonian/Masonic religion it is Lucifer. Obama shares the same 'blue' bloodlines and is a 33degree scottish rite Freemason. He has repeatedly said in his speeches calling for the New World Order... most famously in his speech in Berlin. They are all on the same illuminati team, frightening stuff. This is just one of the parts of their part and why we need to do this project with even more urgency. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...the_name_Obama
got to say the last 24 hrs I have had a moron overdose watching the mob bow in unison to their new God --Obama.....its made me sad,dejected,mad,angry,amost physically sick.........all of these manipulated sheep...this is very scary ,it is cult like...i am watching live tv (& i hardly ever watch the idiot box)...& thousands of obama cultists are walking down hollywood Blvd....this youth brigade and his talk of "being one"...i am extremely nervous and feel amost physically ill watching this.... I will have something for you soon ...i am very concerned about nov15 -08 and jan 22-23 -09 and this international "incident"....so want to get this bretton woods II inform together as well as i can..... Thanks Oz ,you are doing a great job...i am getting prepared like never before now so quite busy.... His name means... Kneel be the crooked one.......or blessed be the crooked one...hmmm very intersting to say the least .or a dame nightmare!..where did you get the info Oz? Oz i have no time for any organised religion..they are all esoteric at the top...freemasonic scum...did you read brents thread from the "hidden hand"?...got to say i have a inbuilt bullshit detector a mile wide....but some of that dialouge hit an accord with me..... Oz ...i am tryying to read morals and dogma...i'm finding it heavy going and i do not understand hardly any of it...do you have any suggestions in learning how to interpret masonic lanquage symbols etc....? TJ

Thomas Jefferson | 11-06-2008 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Oz Waver (Post 1400827) Here are a couple more pages (at random)... just for the others... Anymore contributors? 27 pages and heading to 30... it's getting comprehensive.
Wow!!...i am still in LA but looking at moving to Vermont Oz..buying a farm.. NZ is bad...so where?....expats threads have been researching but ..where... I want to stay and do what i can to try and wake as many and do what i can to turn things in a differnt direction.....leaving the sinking ship i would feel like i was a coward or had given up..... what happens if no-one stands up to all of this...Alex Jones is doing a great job....you are doing a great job .... but this will spread like a hurricane... i am just voicing my thoughts TJ

rogold | 11-06-2008 09:16 AM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Do you have water filtration and desalization of salt water?

Oz Waver | 11-06-2008 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rogold (Post 1401112) Do you have water filtration and desalization of salt water?
not yet, are you offering to do that?

rogold | 11-06-2008 08:30 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help yeah sure, half a page on each?

Oz Waver | 11-06-2008 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rogold (Post 1402417) yeah sure, half a page on each?
Yes please, when do you think you can have it done by?

rogold | 11-06-2008 11:10 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Here ya go...

Oz Waver | 11-06-2008 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rogold (Post 1402676) Here ya go...
YOU ARE GREAT!!! This is really really good. I never knew about the salt water. Credits!

rogold | 11-06-2008 11:30 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help Thanks! I hope it was clear enough, I didn't have anybody to look through it, feel free to change it however you need. What other topics are you looking for?

Oz Waver | 11-06-2008 11:45 PM
Re: Surviving the NWO Guide: Need help I've sent you a PM with a draft... maybe you should add what you feel is important. You are really good! Please forgive it as it's a work in progress... so much to do.

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