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Krugerrand | 04-17-2007 06:02 PM
AK-47 in California? I've spent several hours the past few evenings/nights researching and learning about the AK-47 and all its benefits, variations, etc. I've gotten my heart and wallet set on equipping myself with one as soon as possible (as in, within the week) along with 10 or so magazines and 1,000+ rounds of 7.62x39. As I was reading a thread here at GIM just a few minutes ago, I read a post where someone mentioned them being illegal in California - is this correct? I was able to bring up info on SB23 which banned "assault rifles" back in 2000, but then I also came across other info that said they were legal again as of September '06, and read that you'd have to buy the receiver, and then build the gun from there, out of a kit? Can anyone offer more details or info on this? I was going to call the nearest FFL dealer this afternoon to see if they could take delivery of an AK from Vector Arms or some similar online vendor, and now come across this, and to say the least I'm pretty disgusted and hate my state just a little bit more. Is there any way to purchase an AK-47 while living in California?

wallew | 04-17-2007 06:12 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? These are the folks you need to talk to : http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php They have a forum JUST for California Gun laws...

REV127 | 04-17-2007 06:21 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Geeze, I didn't know you were in Kali. I'm really sorry for what has been done to your state. Anyway, you're in a rough spot. I'm not an expert but as I undersand it you can have a retarded version of an AK, like removeable magazines but no pistol grip or pistol grip but no removeable magazines, or pistol grip and magazines but pump action(yes, it exists). You can also have an SKS. In your predicament I would be looking hard at a Saiga. They have a "conventional" comb stock and take proprietary Saiga magazines but with a minimum of modification can be adapted to take standard AK magazines. They're a high quality AK variant and many people in freer states deliberately use them as a base rifle to convert into an AK. There's a guy not far from me that does those conversions as a profession. Anyway you're in a whole nother world than me and I'm not in a good position to give sound advice on how to navigate your state's peculiar laws. You should check this link out for serious help. http://www.calguns.net/

sindgefallen | 04-17-2007 08:01 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? The calguns forum helps but is misleading. IN KALIFORNIA ANY LAW CAN BE INTERPRETED TO FIT THE POLITICAL MOOD. Don't take any chances. Yes they are illegal back in Kali but do not fret. Other weapons are available that are very good. If you still want an AK then go out of state and buy one and leave it in a safe out-of-state location. DO NOT BRING IT HOME. If caught they will rape you and you WILL be a political prisoner. Good luck dude.

Krugerrand | 04-17-2007 08:23 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Thanks for the suggestions so far, guys. Yes, I live in Kalifornia ... born and raised. Believe me, I would love to leave this state, and all that really keeps me from doing so right away is that nearly all of my fairly large family is here - most of my immediate cousins/uncles/aunts are within 1.5 hrs, and the rest live up near and around the Redding area. If we weren't such a close family, I'd up and move in a jiffy. Yes, the weather and scenery/landscape are great, but the rest is pretty rotten: social/political/financial situations are about as bad as can be for a state. I already knew we had it rough on obtaining CCW permits (the idea of a "permit" is bad enough), but when the National assault weapons ban expired last September, I figured that opened the options for those "mean-looking" rifles back up. Should have counted on Kali to disappoint, though. Appreciate your sympathies, as well. :D Clearly you can understand what it's like for someone like me to live here. I'm sure the time will come when I'll say enough is enough and leave, even if it means seeing my family less. :bear_sad: Perhaps when I have or want to start a family of my own.

Kahlil Gibran | 04-17-2007 08:27 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Originally Posted by Krugerrand (Post 575937) Appreciate your sympathies, as well. :D Clearly you can understand what it's like for someone like me to live here. I'm sure the time will come when I'll say enough is enough and leave, even if it means seeing my family less. :bear_sad: Perhaps when I have or want to start a family of my own.
By moving to Idaho or Montana you could provide your extended family a bug-out destination. Otherwise you all could be displaced refugees. :wavey: why wait for it to only get worse?

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 04-17-2007 08:29 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 575799) I have a suggestion - move.
Not bad advice but it's a short-term solution, at best. In no time at all California's falsely so-called "law" will be copied and adopted at the national level. Besides, as I've recently learned there are by now so many surly, jaded, bitter, and hopelessly constipated ass-clowns outside of CA that are unconditionally hostile to folks from here who want to leave, there is little point in moving. Although they portray themselves as "patriot"-types, in truth they're anything but and could care less whether you're strong on the Second Amendment or to the right of Goldwater. They'll heap cowshit on you and key your vehicle, regardless. Not everyone outside of here is that way, of course, but there are enough these individuals out there that it simply isn't worth risking your family's safety trying to make a move out of here. No American citizen should ever be subjected to such disgraceful treatment or have to endanger their loved ones simply trying to find a more traditional America to live in and to fight for, but that's how things have become. I'm sure sindgefallen and LA refugee know what I'm taking about.

Phoenix_Dollar | 04-17-2007 08:31 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? What is a good price for a pre-ban ak-47 modded to 900 rps? I have a friend selling one, but he is asking the price of a car for it. Maybe 8k or so.

<SLV> | 04-17-2007 08:31 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 575806) Geeze, I didn't know you were in Kali. I'm really sorry for what has been done to your state. Anyway, you're in a rough spot. I'm not an expert but as I undersand it you can have a retarded version of an AK, like removeable magazines but no pistol grip or pistol grip but no removeable magazines, or pistol grip and magazines but pump action(yes, it exists). You can also have an SKS. In your predicament I would be looking hard at a Saiga. They have a "conventional" comb stock and take proprietary Saiga magazines but with a minimum of modification can be adapted to take standard AK magazines. They're a high quality AK variant and many people in freer states deliberately use them as a base rifle to convert into an AK. There's a guy not far from me that does those conversions as a profession. Anyway you're in a whole nother world than me and I'm not in a good position to give sound advice on how to navigate your state's peculiar laws. You should check this link out for serious help. http://www.calguns.net/
Rev, I'm looking at getting a couple cases of Saiga AKs. Can you post pictures, or at least a description of the modifications necessary to receive standard mags? Do you mod the mag or the receiver?

REV127 | 04-17-2007 10:27 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 575950) Rev, I'm looking at getting a couple cases of Saiga AKs. Can you post pictures, or at least a description of the modifications necessary to receive standard mags? Do you mod the mag or the receiver?
You can mod the mag but it's kind of a waste of a good AK mag. Here is a link that will explain the process of modding the Saiga to standard AK configuration. http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/ If you just want to do the mag start at step 8. http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/step_8.htm Here is a link to the guy who does these professionally that I mentioned. It'll give you some more ideas about what's possible. http://www.ak-103.com/ Anyway it's not a big job for anybody who's at all handy.

Phoenix_Dollar | 04-17-2007 10:38 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Class III NFA gun with a tax stamp
It is one of those, but that is why I was not all that interested, because of the transfer process.

HistoryStudent | 04-20-2007 05:31 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Look at a STAINLESS Ruger Mini-30. Same round; (BIG secret) magazines are available if you are smart.

mjk1971 | 04-20-2007 07:31 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Go to Governor Moonbeam's site, he's now CA Attorney General: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275...ccccebdb8148d3 http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/...policyrev4.pdf

mjk1971 | 04-20-2007 07:38 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 580089) Look at a STAINLESS Ruger Mini-30. Same round; (BIG secret) magazines are available if you are smart.
Absolutely, an excellent choice which (at least presently) complies with the decrees of the Sacramento Criminals. http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAFami...ding&famlst=20 Magazines galore available at: http://www.gunbroker.com/ Of course, you wouldn't want to violate any of the (unconstitutional - interstate commerce governed by the Feds) prohibitions on "importation" of "large capacity magazines." Strictly for privacy reasons, you'd want to send CASH/FRNs to any kindly out-of-state buyer you connect with.

mjk1971 | 04-20-2007 07:53 PM
Re: AK-47 in California? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 575946) Not bad advice but it's a short-term solution, at best. In no time at all California's falsely so-called "law" will be copied and adopted at the national level.
Indeed. People outside of California have this notion that peculiarly weird & evil things happen only here, and they never spread. Take illegal invasion, for example...EVERY state in the Union is now infested, Atlanta, Chicago, Minneapolis, filling up with foreigners. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 575946) Besides, as I've recently learned there are by now so many surly, jaded, bitter, and hopelessly constipated ass-clowns outside of CA that are unconditionally hostile to folks from here who want to leave, there is little point in moving. Although they portray themselves as "patriot"-types, in truth they're anything but and could care less whether you're strong on the Second Amendment or to the right of Goldwater. They'll heap cowshit on you and key your vehicle, regardless.
Yes. Everyone I know who's moved to the Pacific Northwest or Intermountain States gets over to the local DMV ASAP to change their license plates to avoid harassment and damage. It's pathetic. As bad as California is, we STILL pay MORE in taxes than we receive, and constitute a large portion of the Gross National Product. The hicks who don't like us can thank California for paying significant portions of their state's net imports of Federal tax monies. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 575946) Not everyone outside of here is that way, of course, but there are enough these individuals out there that it simply isn't worth risking your family's safety trying to make a move out of here. No American citizen should ever be subjected to such disgraceful treatment or have to endanger their loved ones simply trying to find a more traditional America to live in and to fight for, but that's how things have become.
The mentality in Oregon, Washington, and Idaho are why my wife & I decided to "flee" to Mendocino County, instead of moving out of California. Certainly, there are nice people in those states, but I'm not going to be shunned because my native state has become a hell-hole overall. The irony is that those who hate Californians do so because of stupidity, not recognizing that what they hate about the "land of fruits & nuts" is because of recent IMPORTS to this state, not natives such us myself and my family (I'm Fifth-generation, family here since 1852, and among those that made California once the greatest land of opportunity in America & one of the greatest in the world). Hollywood & San Francisco, which is what most of the ignorant think of as "California," are the products of those from the big cities of the East, largely New York City. San Francisco, which until WWII was California's greatest city, was once a bastion of common sense and Liberty. Then the leftists & nutcase sodomites took over. And Hollywood is a certified Kosher product.

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