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RealityCheck | 06-10-2008 11:58 AM
Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? I know they claim they took it out of thier regular products, but they actually still contain some "natural" forms of glutimate (autolysed yeast extract). Anyway their beef ingredients are beef, flavorings, salt. Anyone know if their "flavorings" contain any msg or similar products? Emergency Essentials has nothing to added but salt, but they are more expensive. I dont mind paying extra if MH has any questionable garbage added. Also I heard MH prices are going up next month (per Nitro-Pak)

Heimdhal | 06-10-2008 01:12 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? dont know for sure, but MSG is considered a flavoring so it could be in there.

Prometheus | 06-10-2008 04:13 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? MSGs are pretty unfavorable in the Survival prep arena. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they did IMO. I don't have the answer, but several people I know who avoid msg at all costs have mountain house... I always figured they didn't... good question however.

Rebel Yarr | 06-10-2008 06:06 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? You can look at the ingredients on the main site or send them an e-mail inquiry. While they are vague on some of the ingredients - it seems that they do cater to a more health concious crowd now. I still think its nuts to buy this stuff btw.

Dick | 06-10-2008 07:07 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1139835) I know they claim they took it out of thier regular products, but they actually still contain some "natural" forms of glutimate (autolysed yeast extract). Anyway their beef ingredients are beef, flavorings, salt. Anyone know if their "flavorings" contain any msg or similar products? Emergency Essentials has nothing to added but salt, but they are more expensive. I dont mind paying extra if MH has any questionable garbage added. Also I heard MH prices are going up next month (per Nitro-Pak)
One has to wonder if Mountain House contains any food. At around 200 calories per serving, you would do better in a Nazi concentration camp.

RealityCheck | 06-10-2008 07:30 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? I don't buy much freeze dried food at all. I think its worth it to buy a few cases of meat though. It's a bit of a rip at 3 times the cost of canned meat, but its the only way to put real beef into long term storage. I just want a few cases to round out my food storage and will probably never rotate it. I also keep a supply of canned meat at home for regular use. The FD beef is for the bunker. :D

goddess | 06-10-2008 07:41 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1139835) I know they claim they took it out of thier regular products, but they actually still contain some "natural" forms of glutimate (autolysed yeast extract). Anyway their beef ingredients are beef, flavorings, salt. Anyone know if their "flavorings" contain any msg or similar products? Emergency Essentials has nothing to added but salt, but they are more expensive. I dont mind paying extra if MH has any questionable garbage added. Also I heard MH prices are going up next month (per Nitro-Pak)
Mountain House is garbage. I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I don't eat junk on a day to day basis and I certainly wouldn't eat it in a survival situation.

Twisted Avatar | 06-10-2008 07:44 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by goddess (Post 1140653) Mountain House is garbage. I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I don't eat junk on a day to day basis and I certainly wouldn't eat it in a survival situation.
well dam!!...... that sure answers that question!!:wink: T

gangsta99 | 06-10-2008 08:50 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Goddess why is Mountain House garbage? What would you recommend instead of Mountain House for this type of prep??

Black Blade | 06-10-2008 09:09 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Interesting since I probably eat MH about half the time. I actually like most of it and have two four-year supplies along with some canned and dry goods. My take is if after three days without access to your "special" food and the guy next to you offers a MH meal, are you really going to turn it down? When TSHTF the last thing you will be worried about is if the "Red Lobster" or "Olive Garden" is still open for business.

Maddie | 06-10-2008 09:56 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Mountain House does have a lot of modified food starch and other sorts of flavor enhancers in their meals. Judging from my experience the few times I've tried Mountain House, they have many, many times more of this stuff in them than your average grocery store prepackaged food. I get migraines, so I can't eat Mountain House foods at all. Within 20 minutes of eating Mountain House, I get a raging migraine and start vomiting violently. I might as eat rat poison. Their FD meats (just the plain cans of meat) apparently don't have flavor enhancers added, but read the salt content. Some of them are unbelievably high in salt content compared to other companies' FD meats. If you absolutely have to have a prepared meal, Alpine Aire is really good about labelling ingredients and have a few products that don't have too much junk in them. Otherwise, you can buy single ingredients (like meat, veggies, etc.) from Provident Pantry, etc., and put together your own meals. If you have food sensitivities, you might want to try the potato products before stocking up on them. Most have bisulfites or some other product to retain color, and some people are sensitive to those. P.S. Lots of companies like to say their flavorings are "natural" in order to imply that they are benign or healthy. Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's good for you!

GreenSpirit | 06-10-2008 11:38 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Oftentimes, "natural flavors" is just industry code for msg. A word to the wise.

Txkstew | 06-11-2008 08:50 AM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Let's see, I can eat my chemical laden Mountain House food, or I can dig up some big, juicy grub worms. Maybe I'll just drop some of them grubs into my Mountain House.

Black Blade | 06-11-2008 11:17 AM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? My thoughts exactly. Now if only more people would stop buying MH because of "chemicals" the rest of us could load up without the nuisance of these panic shortages. Maybe that is what we should do - scare em' off with "chemical" stories. I think we may have just stumbled onto something here. Hmmm... - Black Blade

Rebel Yarr | 06-11-2008 01:06 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Seriously - why do you need freezed dried canned foods - just buy regular food and rotate it. Most canned stuff is good for 5 years and probably much longer if stored properly - and at you can buy 3 to four times as much as you could at MH. A years supply of food is a LOT. If you buy it at MH you are looking at about 15k - 20k PER person.

RealityCheck | 06-11-2008 01:10 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1141640) Anyone have any experience with the provident pantry freeze dried meats? They are considerably cheaper than MH, www.beprepared.com
I bought some but never opened any. They are actually more expensive. (Compared to cases from frugal squirell)

NINEX19 | 06-11-2008 02:42 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by goddess (Post 1140653) Mountain House is garbage. I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I don't eat junk on a day to day basis and I certainly wouldn't eat it in a survival situation.
EXACTLY! People buy this because it is "the thing" to do and dont really explore the other healthier and cheaper alternatives. Here are some examples of the igredients off their website. Red flags all over the place in my book (and still some I did not mark so you would not think I was wacko:wink:). Vegetable Lasagna INGREDIENTS: Tomatoes (tomatoes, tomato juice, salt, citric acid, and calcium chloride), Zucchini, Tomato Paste, Enriched Macaroni Product (durum semolina, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, and folic acid), Carrots, Spinach, Modified Cornstarch, Dehydrated Onions, Sugar, Salt, Spices, and Garlic Powder. Cheese Blend: Mozzarella Cheese Flavoring (mozzarella cheese [cultured milk, salt, enzymes], calcium caseinate, corn oil, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, sodium caseinate, salt, glucono-delta-lactone, maltodextrin, sodium aluminum phosphate, butter [cream], natural and artificial flavors), and Dehydrated Parmesan and Romano (made from cow's milk) Cheeses (part-skim milk, cheese culture, salt, enzymes). CONTAINS: Wheat, Milk, Soy. Beef Stroganoff with Noodles INGREDIENTS: Cooked Beef, Sour Cream (cultured cream, milk, whey, sodium phosphate, guar gum, carrageenan, calcium sulfate, locust bean gum, and cultures), Mushrooms, Modified Cornstarch, Corn Oil, Nonfat Dry Milk, Dehydrated Onions, Salt, Hydrolyzed Corn Torula and Brewers Yeast Wheat Gluten Soy Protein, Lemon Juice Concentrate and Lemon Oil, Beef Base (roasted beef and concentrated beef stock, hydrolyzed corn gluten, soy, corn, and wheat protein, sugar, dried whey, and yeast extract), Flavoring, Molasses, Spice, Garlic Powder, and Soybean Oil. Precooked Noodles: Durum Semolina, Whole Eggs, and Salt. Contains: Milk, Wheat, Soy, Egg The alternatives to MH "meat products" are to either buy canned meat (no additives), dehydrated meat (no additives) or simply learn how to get the same complete protiens with grains and beans. You don't "need" meat. Now don't get me wrong, I love and eat meat, I am just saying, for LTS, I will not store the overpriced "food" that MH sells. I can buy a 50lb bag of organic beans and a 50lb bag of organic rice for the same price as one #10 Can with shipping. and they store for the same amount of time with correct mylar/O2 packaging.

Rebel Yarr | 06-11-2008 03:26 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1141697) We have less than 2k invested in food storage right now. Once you get the basics in dry goods, such as sugar, wheat, rice, various beans, dried potatoes, onions, carrots, etc. You soon realized that while you have adequate calories, you do not have adequate meat and proteins. We are buying provident pantry and MH freeze dried meats as an supplement to our primary food storage. We will not be buying much prepared stuff like stroganov or chili mac or any of that. We will buy a case of chicken, a case of beef, etc. That way for a few hundred bucks, we are set.
I guess my point - is why buy it when you can get better/cheaper elsewhere. The only reason to buy thsi stuff is for a 25 year shelf life - and to do this in your actual living space is nuts IMO. Rotate = better food and cheaper. If you buy 25 year shelf life food I hope you are throwing it in a hole at your bug out spot - cause that is what it is for.

Prometheus | 06-11-2008 03:48 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 1141665) frugal squirell
That dudes fruit loopy. I won't have anything to do with him or his little companies. Be it food or ammo. FWIW all the ammo he sells is cheaper elsewhere. Also good luck trying to straiten anything out if your order is wrong, makes ammoman look like a saint!

Black Blade | 06-11-2008 03:53 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel Yarr (Post 1141868) I guess my point - is why buy it when you can get better/cheaper elsewhere. The only reason to buy thsi stuff is for a 25 year shelf life - and to do this in your actual living space is nuts IMO. Rotate = better food and cheaper. If you buy 25 year shelf life food I hope you are throwing it in a hole at your bug out spot - cause that is what it is for.
Well that's the point isn't it? It is another form of insurance. I hope that my PAW food stores outlast me and I never have to use it much like my health or auto insurance. Good to have but hope you never "have" to use it. The Mad Max series are good entertaiment movies but a MadMax World is not much fun in real life. - Black Blade

Rebel Yarr | 06-11-2008 04:17 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? ^^ I think the majority of people who are buying this stuff - actually store it IN their primary residence...which is my point....buy and rotate good quality food - that you like - instead of storing this expensive stuff in your closet.....

goddess | 06-11-2008 04:36 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? What would I buy? Alpine Aire. Hands down.

macrohard | 06-11-2008 05:33 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by goddess (Post 1140653) Mountain House is garbage. I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I don't eat junk on a day to day basis and I certainly wouldn't eat it in a survival situation.
I agree, I've never understood why MH is so popular anyway.

Maddie | 06-11-2008 06:15 PM
Re: Does MH meat contain msg/glutimate? Quote:
Originally Posted by Txkstew (Post 1141308) Let's see, I can eat my chemical laden Mountain House food, or I can dig up some big, juicy grub worms. Maybe I'll just drop some of them grubs into my Mountain House.
Or you can buy other FDs that don't have all that junk in them. :D If you can eat Mt. House, more power to you. Some of us can't, and it's better to know it now. I'm not keen on grubs...

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