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phideaux | 11-20-2007 10:27 AM
Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Aside from a couple of sticks of matches and a needle and thread, what else to do stuff into there?

Hug | 11-20-2007 10:36 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 838133) Aside from a couple of sticks of matches and a needle and thread, what else to do stuff into there?
Comprehensive fire-starting stuff makes the most sense.

Antonio | 11-20-2007 10:42 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Remember,only Chris Reeve hollow-handle one-piece knives are the thing,the rest is crap that will break at the joint at the first whack against wood.

momopanda | 11-20-2007 10:45 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Small twined up length of even just 20 yds low test monofilament and a couple small fish hooks.

Tn...Andy | 11-20-2007 10:57 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Year's worth of freeze dried, verrrrrrrry compacted, food ?

phideaux | 11-20-2007 11:01 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 838178) Year's worth of freeze dried, verrrrrrrry compacted, food ?
... and a hundred gallons of pure water to reconstitute it.

Tn...Andy | 11-20-2007 11:03 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Freeze dried water.... :D

REV127 | 11-20-2007 11:10 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 838167) Remember,only Chris Reeve hollow-handle one-piece knives are the thing,the rest is crap that will break at the joint at the first whack against wood.
Chris Reeve knives are very nice. I picked one of those up a while ago. It chops wood like a monster, almost more like a hatchet than a big knife. It's got a bigger hollow space inside than most, too. Well, you always need fire, water, food, shelter and air. Not much you can do about air. You can get a magnesium fire starter to fit inside and the nice thing there is no risk of explosion as with matches. A few water purification tablets help, some fishing line and treble hooks can catch a lot more than fish. You might be able to get a few pieces of hard candy in there but honestly it won't ammount to enough to really have much of an impact. The best balance between utility in a minimum size I've found for a shelter is a large heavy duty garbage bag. You can split it open and use it like a tarp shelter, you can cut head and arm holes for a makeshift parka but my preferred use is just to sit or squat and pull it over the top of my head. It'll keep the rain and wind off, you'll have plenty of air space and the open bottom will admit more. The best part is that it doesn't compromise the bag's integrity so you can use it to hold water later if you need to. It won't fit in the knife's handle but it can fit in a pouch attached to the sheath. Actually a sheath pouch can be used to store a few extra items with any style of knife. Obviously it isn't the same as your BOB but at least as long as you have your knife you have a few other things, too. For longer term survival you could fit a lot of seed in the handle of such a knife. If you could survive the first couple months by scrounging what you can and toughing it out you could have a real good chance of being able to live a comfortable life indefinately. You'd have to be careful with the selection, though. You'll want high nutrition, high productivity and as quick as possible. You'll also want to cover a variety of climatic conditions, stuff for hot or cold weather, warm or dry weather. Fortunately seed is very small and it produces many more seeds for every one you plant. Even short term this could be a benefit. Sprouted seeds have high food value and expand considerably compared to initial volume.

RiverRat | 11-20-2007 11:30 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? :rolleyes_m: Condoms and antibiotics...never leave home without them. When TSHTF the woods and forests will be overpopulated with sex starved female tree huggers and unemployed super models wandering around in a daze,just waiting for a real financial savvy guru with his own large supply of condoms and silver rounds to become their leader. Drill and Fill has convinced me this is exactly how it will go down in California. I see no reason his logic won't apply to the other 49 states as well. His recommendation...? Move near the woods and be prepared. Wise advice in these uncertain times... :bear_w00t::bear_w00t::bear_w00t: Seriously ? A folding saw,a machete,and two Buck folding Hunters. All the other stuff I would carry in a leather shotshell pouch on my extra capacity ammo belt...more storage room.

eyeofliberty | 11-20-2007 11:44 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? 1 Attachment(s) Mini-Me! You never know when a very small psychotic sociopath might come in handy! :D "Is it too much to ask to get some freakin' sharks with freakin' laser beams mounted to their heads?"

Wyldwil | 11-20-2007 11:48 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? How about 50 1/10 oz. AGE's???

REV127 | 11-20-2007 11:55 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? some flunkie strongarm mugger: GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY! WyldWil: Sure, just let me reach for my wallet... :applause_:D

Antonio | 11-20-2007 07:21 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 838253) How about 50 1/10 oz. AGE's???
Thought about that one myself:).The concept of a hollow-handle knife is overrated.The production pieces will break after one hard whack in the case of Chinese or Pakistani models or after a few dozen in the case of more expensive ones.Reeve one-piece ones will not break but they are heavy and the handle is round which is very bad for SD situations (it has to be rectangular or flat).Carry a 2.00$ match case from countycomm.com and a regular survival knife.Hollow-handle knives are movie BS.

electric-amish | 11-20-2007 07:25 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 838133) Aside from a couple of sticks of matches and a needle and thread, what else to do stuff into there?
a good knife.:coolbeer: Electric-Amish

Master_Ho | 11-20-2007 07:37 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverRat (Post 838227) :rolleyes_m: Condoms and antibiotics...never leave home without them. When TSHTF the woods and forests will be overpopulated with sex starved female tree huggers and unemployed super models wandering around in a daze,just waiting for a real financial savvy guru with his own large supply of condoms and silver rounds to become their leader. Drill and Fill has convinced me this is exactly how it will go down in California. I see no reason his logic won't apply to the other 49 states as well.
<HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1> RIVER RAT - YOU AND I THINK TOO MUCH ALIKE - I POSTED MY POST AND THEN SAW YOURS - SO I DELETED AND ADDED MY COMMENT TO YOURS!!! Condoms. Holding a knife to their throats while you rape and pillage is fine - but you really don't want to get any of those sexual diseases in the process!!! :sarcasm: :sarc: :sarcasm: :sarc: :sarcasm: :sarc: :sarcasm: :sarc:

REV127 | 11-20-2007 10:45 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 838933) .Reeve one-piece ones will not break but they are heavy
Heavy compared to what? A Project 1 or 2 weighs 14oz. Quote:
and the handle is round which is very bad for SD situations (it has to be rectangular or flat).
No it doesn't, it just needs to be secure.

Antonio | 11-20-2007 10:53 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 839218) Heavy compared to what? A Project 1 or 2 weighs 14oz. No it doesn't, it just needs to be secure.
I prefer carbon steel such as 5160 or S7 for survival knives,not A2 which is a superb steel but at 5% chromium and 1.5% carbon is a bit less flexible than the low alloy steels.Round handle is bad for SD because it will roll in your hand (even the knurled Reeve handle) and also it`s difficult to orient the blade while holding a round thing (those split seconds matter). I love Reeve for the pure esthetics,they are beautiful knives,the ones in CPM3V such as Nkonka are more expensive but are a lot better than A2. Greco knives are the best value for the $$ anywhere,medium sized tactical fixed blades.MMHW and Siegle make the best survival knives on the market,good prices,5160 steel differentially hardened.

momopanda | 11-20-2007 10:58 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 838199) some fishing line and treble hooks can catch a lot more than fish.
Just now putzing around in a tackle box and if tiny storage area is an issue- now matter how I arrange them , two treble hooks will take up more room than 15 eagle claws. Trebles may have more uses , but not as far as catching fish, unless you have wandered into a spawning ground. I've hook-and lined , speared, B&A'd etc and I can tell you that snagging fish is something you read about in Field and Stream, not something that is practical in common usage. jmtc

RiverRat | 11-20-2007 11:02 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? :rolleyes_m: A friend of mine is a scuba diving instructor. He's always carried a Navy Seal KaBar for a dive knife around the world and back. Even macho hours of saltwater immersion didn't seem to affect it after five years. Still holds an edge and does the job. He swears by them. :rolleyes_m::rolleyes_m::rolleyes_m:

REV127 | 11-21-2007 11:52 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 839236) I prefer carbon steel such as 5160 or S7 for survival knives,not A2 which is a superb steel but at 5% chromium and 1.5% carbon is a bit less flexible than the low alloy steels.
I'm a fan of carbon steels, too. Flexibility is something to think about with certain types of game cleaning or food preparation knives but isn't really going to matter in a knife with a 1/4" thick spine. What does matter is shock resistance and yield strength. Like many other steels A2 does well here. I was cleaning overgrowth off a wooden rail behind my property once, some of it was quite thick with vines. I was using the Reeve and gave a might swing. For some reason there was a random 1/8" thick steel plate nailed to the rail in that spot, the edge struck the corner of it full force. I was able to remove the nick on the blade with a few minutes on a diamond stone. Yield strength isn't an issue. I read a test where a 2 foot cheater bar and a vise was needed to get the knife to break. That will break or bend anything. Quote:
Round handle is bad for SD because it will roll in your hand (even the knurled Reeve handle)
Rolling in your hand is bad for sure. Perhaps there is a difference in grip strength or some other aspect of hand conformation between us but I can assure you that the knurling works for me, even when well covered in blood. Quote:
and also it`s difficult to orient the blade while holding a round thing (those split seconds matter). I love Reeve for the pure esthetics,they are beautiful knives,the ones in CPM3V such as Nkonka are more expensive but are a lot better than A2.
The Reeves have a sculpted gaurd so you can tell with your thumb which way the blade is pointing. The main thing is, just like any other knife, always keep the blade facing the same direction in the sheath. Otherwise I agree with the general principles you mention. Ideally my favorite handle shape is almost like an egg in cross section, wider at the back where your palm is and narrower at the fingers. It allows for fast, postive indexing but is still fairly comfortable if you want to orient the blade the other way and since it's all round there are no sharp edge to create hotspots on your hand if you need to work with it for an extended period of time. Quote:
Greco knives are the best value for the $$ anywhere,medium sized tactical fixed blades.MMHW and Siegle make the best survival knives on the market,good prices,5160 steel differentially hardened.
You've mentioned Greco before, they do look like a great buy. I might pick up one of the Danglers, looks like it would be good for dressing out a bird. The Mineral Mountain Ring Dag seems to have some potential too. I've always been a little skeptical of pinky rings because it would appear that a guy who knows his presses could pop your finger off, but I guess a large part of that is determined by the size of the ring and it looks to have a fairly big one. There's some neat ideas in that profile, I might have to grind out a modified version of it to play with.

walker10 | 11-21-2007 12:06 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Don't put anything in the handle, except a tang. :wink: Seriously, if you put anything in the handle, and don't have that gear duplicated elsewhere, and you lose the knife, you lose the gear too.

REV127 | 11-21-2007 12:10 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by momopanda (Post 839243) Just now putzing around in a tackle box and if tiny storage area is an issue- now matter how I arrange them , two treble hooks will take up more room than 15 eagle claws. Trebles may have more uses , but not as far as catching fish, unless you have wandered into a spawning ground. I've hook-and lined , speared, B&A'd etc and I can tell you that snagging fish is something you read about in Field and Stream, not something that is practical in common usage. jmtc
I've snagged a few fish in my day but I usually use the treble with bait. Snagging can work well on rays, I just like them for snagging things in general. You can sort of nest them on eachother but you're right that you'll always get more eagle claw type hooks into the same space. Come to think of it you could probably improsive a snag with three eagle claws, a bit of wood and a bit of wire. That might be a better way to go. Generally hook size and weight make snagging anything easier. If it was strictly for fishing a spoon or jig would probably catch more things thany any other hook or lure you could bring. I've caught more fish with a Crippled Herring than anything else, live or artificial. I do replace the factory hook with a treble, though.

REV127 | 11-21-2007 12:12 PM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? Quote:
Originally Posted by walker10 (Post 839945) Don't put anything in the handle, except a tang. :wink: Seriously, if you put anything in the handle, and don't have that gear duplicated elsewhere, and you lose the knife, you lose the gear too.
Yeah, you'd have to be one adventurous nut to walk into the wilderness with your entire survival kit consisting of what you can put in your knife. I tend to see from the opposite perspective, if you have your knife you have other things, too. It's kind of like how you shouldn't have all your gear in any other one bag or container. Well, there's the chickens again... don't put all your eggs in one basket, right?

Unclad Lad | 11-22-2007 02:29 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? If you can find one with a big enough space, you could put a good knife inside! :D

Antonio | 11-22-2007 02:32 AM
Re: Survival Knife: What do you stuff into the hollow handle? I used to keep a little reefer inside my Parker survival knife+matches and paper:wink:.

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