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Hivemindgammahydra7 | 01-03-2007 03:31 AM
OT: graffitti problem It turns out we have an mergening graffitti problem here, right behind the house. I could use input on how to deal with it if anyone has any practical ideas. Basically here's the situation: our home faces west and we have no neighbors behind us, which is to the east. We do have neighbors to the north and south. There is a cinderblock wall about 6 feet tall at the edge of our backyard running north to south, and behind that there is about a 10-15 feet wide landscaped area running north to south, also. East of us and east of the landscaped area is another wall, perhaps 4 feet tall and again running north to south. East of that is more landscaping, then a 3 foot tall retaining wall, then sidewalk, then a north-south street. The area east of our block wall is all city property and easement. Sometime beginning a month or so ago, between our backyard wall and the 4-foot tall wall (in the 10-15' wide landscaped area), appeared a now exploding amount of tagging in every conceivable color on both walls. This area is not visible to the street beyond it at all, but the vandalism is pretty bad. It gets worse the further north you go, towards some apartments north of our neighborhood. Think East L.A., Chico and the Man-type bad. It's BAD. I've reported it to the city's "graffitti hotline" four times now, but nothing at all is being done. I can't help but wonder if the hotline is merely a dead-end voicemail for people to cry to. I reported it to the cops who came out and photographed it. The policeman told me they had arrested 4 juveniles and 1 adult doing the damage and that it would now stop, but it hasn't. A city work crew cleared away excessive undergrowth the next day, but the graffitti remained and is now getting worse at an exponential rate. I am going to a city council meeting with pictures to request immediate action, and give an account of the graffitti removal "hotline" ineffectiveness. Beyond that I don't know what to do. If you know of anything I could do to curb this plague I'd really like to hear it, but please keep it realistic. I can't simply "shoot them" or leave bear traps out because I'll end up in the pokey. Thanks for any help...

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 01-03-2007 03:39 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem 1 Attachment(s) Neglected to mention that a few weeks ago Big Dog suddenly turned violently ill. The vet said it was probably a side-effect from her new arthritis meds, but conceded someone may have poisoned her with something. She became so sick we had to rehydrate her with an IV and we very nearly lost her. Her sickness suddenly struck at the same time the graffitti showed up.

Curtman | 01-03-2007 03:46 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Hang on, I got the sure cure and nobody will know where it came from. $15.00 for a four months supply and nobody will loiter near the place. Hang on.

Curtman | 01-03-2007 03:54 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Does the sun hit that wall?

REV127 | 01-03-2007 03:56 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem I'm interested in Curtman's cure but personally I would start by installing a web cam on a piece of your property that looks out to this area. Some can be set up to start recording only when a person enters a defined space, but the point is just to get some ID on these people to start with.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 01-03-2007 04:09 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtman (Post 461477) Does the sun hit that wall?
Yes Brother C, much of it, though not all.

Curtman | 01-03-2007 04:22 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem 1 Attachment(s) OK this is the stuff you want, you dont need the absorbent pad just the bottle of juice. IF they try and sell you the pad tell them no you use a black painted top board. Bee-Go Bee-Go, Pint Catalog No. 130 Bee go is a chemical that removes bees from honey supers. Apply Bee-Go evenly on an absorbent pad or one of our fume boards. Use sparingly, just enough to keep the bees moving. You must pick up large quantities, we Ship Bee-Go Pt and Gallon by UPS. Here is another source, make sure you get the Bee Go not the other it is much stronger. http://www.millerbeesupply.com/Page32.htm You can get it from Beekeeping suppliers, there are different kinds so make sure you get this one. Just cut the tip off the top of the bottle and squirt a bit of it on the wall each night for about a week. then every once in a while. Nobody will come around there as long as you do this and if they do let me know I can give you another plan.

damoc | 01-03-2007 11:13 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtman (Post 461490) OK this is the stuff you want, you dont need the absorbent pad just the bottle of juice. IF they try and sell you the pad tell them no you use a black painted top board. Bee-Go Bee-Go, Pint Catalog No. 130 Bee go is a chemical that removes bees from honey supers. Apply Bee-Go evenly on an absorbent pad or one of our fume boards. Use sparingly, just enough to keep the bees moving. You must pick up large quantities, we Ship Bee-Go Pt and Gallon by UPS. Here is another source, make sure you get the Bee Go not the other it is much stronger. http://www.millerbeesupply.com/Page32.htm You can get it from Beekeeping suppliers, there are different kinds so make sure you get this one. Just cut the tip off the top of the bottle and squirt a bit of it on the wall each night for about a week. then every once in a while. Nobody will come around there as long as you do this and if they do let me know I can give you another plan.
SURE THAT COULD WORK BUT MIGHT MOVE YOU OUT ALSO HAVE BEEN ASKED TO REMOVE OURSELVES (MYSELF AND WORKMATES)FROM STORES BECAUSE WE HAD SOME ON OUR HANDS.:puke:

sam | 01-03-2007 11:27 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Bee-Go Do ya suppose the active ingredient is Butyric_acid ?

sam | 01-03-2007 11:37 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Newscientist article: Stench Warfare

Curtman | 01-03-2007 11:54 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Do you want people loitering or not? As long as you squirt it under the cover of darkness and keep the lid on the bottle nobody will know where it came from. Worse than any tom cat spraying around the house. Try it you'll like it. As long as you do not track it back in the house. :rock:

sam | 01-03-2007 12:36 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem No grafitti here, but if you think about it tomcats are a related problem. A problem I suffer from. Around here people feed stray cats, they think they are helping the cats. They aren't. I can tell who they are, they got a dozen cats on their roofs. And some neighbors let their own cats roam outdoors. I used to sting them with a pellet launched with a pump or two in Crossman pistol. Not efficient and not effective for long. No luck with various repellent sprays avaliable at pet stores. Even trapped a neighbors outdoor cat, and tried to scare the crap out if it, so it wouldn't come back, ... didn't work. Any other ideas short of popping 'em with a .410? Does Bee-Go work on cats? Maybe we would have to use it too close to the house, and get grossed out ourselves?? Any other ideas?

Curtman | 01-03-2007 12:41 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem I just try and keep the baddest cat in the area and no problem. I do not live in the city so I don't have much stray problems. If and when I do I am sure the cure is not politically correct.

wallew | 01-03-2007 12:55 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Mix a witches brew of anything that smells bad. Make sure to include some form of pepper capsicum. Make sure to include some form of an oil based paint (very hard to remove). Pour all this into a weed sprayer that you either pump yourself or can be pressurized from a compressor. Remove the 'sprayer' portion so that it comes out in a solid heavy stream. Once this is all mixed and ready to use, make sure you have a security camera positioned to 'see' the area you are talking about. Take a week off from work. PAINT THE WALL. Sit back and wait. You will have all sorts of activity in 24 hours or less. As soon as you see them, spray them with the crap. Repeat as necessary. Note: Make sure that you literally 'catch them in the act' with paint spray cans, etc. DO NOT CALL PD. It's a waste of time. I have a sign that hangs in my basement. It says "WE DON'T DIAL 911!" Figure out why. And do you REALLY think going to local, state, federal government will do any good? NO. It won't. But it will mark you as an 'unreasonable' person because you want to curtail the 'artistic endevours' of yutes...

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 01-05-2007 03:02 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Okay, I just ordered my Bee Go from the place you specified in KS. We'll see how it goes, but I am encouraged. Thanks Brother C and to all of you guys for taking the time to post about this, I appreciate it! Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtman (Post 461490) OK this is the stuff you want, you dont need the absorbent pad just the bottle of juice. IF they try and sell you the pad tell them no you use a black painted top board. Bee-Go Bee-Go, Pint Catalog No. 130 Bee go is a chemical that removes bees from honey supers. Apply Bee-Go evenly on an absorbent pad or one of our fume boards. Use sparingly, just enough to keep the bees moving. You must pick up large quantities, we Ship Bee-Go Pt and Gallon by UPS. Here is another source, make sure you get the Bee Go not the other it is much stronger. http://www.millerbeesupply.com/Page32.htm You can get it from Beekeeping suppliers, there are different kinds so make sure you get this one. Just cut the tip off the top of the bottle and squirt a bit of it on the wall each night for about a week. then every once in a while. Nobody will come around there as long as you do this and if they do let me know I can give you another plan.

Kahlil Gibran | 01-05-2007 03:41 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by wallew (Post 461853) As soon as you see them, spray them with the crap. Repeat as necessary.
Attachment 22454 Let's go pay back H7 for spraying my little brother :rolleyes: wallew is trying to get ya hurt man...real bad

Lackluster | 01-05-2007 03:50 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem "I have a sign that hangs in my basement. It says "WE DON'T DIAL 911!" Figure out why." 'Cause you spray cops with yer witches/paint brew, and they don't show up any more? Is that it?

WAoG | 01-05-2007 04:10 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 461472) Neglected to mention that a few weeks ago Big Dog suddenly turned violently ill. The vet said it was probably a side-effect from her new arthritis meds, but conceded someone may have poisoned her with something. She became so sick we had to rehydrate her with an IV and we very nearly lost her. Her sickness suddenly struck at the same time the graffitti showed up.
Lot of that arthritis medicine will kill your dog. I'm not sure that any of its safe. Some people tell me if worked great for their dog. Then I start asking how they died. Seems like the Medicine killed them every time. Were using the liquid Glucosamine. Have tried two different kinds and they Both have worked on our old bitch. We are even cutting back on the amount and she is doing great on it. The Bottle in front of me is ENP Glucosamine plus. Not cheap put it works on her. She seems pain free and is moving great.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 01-05-2007 07:57 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem 4 Attachment(s) Here's a small sample of what we've got:

BeefJerky | 01-05-2007 08:01 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Remove the "R" :aetsch:

Curtman | 01-05-2007 08:06 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Do they do it at night or day? That wall is great, you just take that stuff and walk along the wall and squirt it toward the top and it will inhibit the porous cinders. When the sun hits it or the temperature goes in the 60's nothing will hang around there. Once it is on there it will linger over night and for days. Just keep applying as needed. Hopefully it is downwind from your house. If not you may want to cut back but either way it will run the bastards off. Don't let nobody see you do it. Keep your dog away from them little pukes too they are scum and may try to hurt Fido again. Cool looking dog. About twice the size of my tom cat.

Kahlil Gibran | 01-05-2007 09:10 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem 1 Attachment(s) Attachment 22464 :smokin: Put up your own graffiti sign and stop denying reality

Lore | 01-05-2007 10:08 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Good point. It's not unreasonable to anticipate positive correlation between neighborhoods where this garbage pops up and neighborhoods where conditions will get hard when TSHTF.

Kahlil Gibran | 01-05-2007 10:11 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Quote:
Originally Posted by Lore (Post 464557) Good point. It's not unreasonable to anticipate positive correlation between neighborhoods where this garbage pops up and neighborhoods where conditions will get hard when TSHTF.
If your fence looks like that the shit has hit the fan. :beer:

____hoot____ | 01-06-2007 01:19 AM
Re: OT: graffitti problem I make a bear hunting scent from used cooking grease and rotted fish guts that is veerrry nasty smelling. Takes a few months in the sun to properly "cook-up" a batch, but it is cheap. A little of that would move them quickly along also.

Bill | 01-06-2007 12:27 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem I'd have to do a little planting. A couple rows of these, growing up to 2 meters tall, would look good along that wall. You can make beer with them too(recipe at link).:beer:

sam | 01-06-2007 02:21 PM
Re: OT: graffitti problem Stinging nettle reminds me about natal.plum Had one growing in front of a window at my old place in Santa Monica. REALLY NASTY thorns all over it. I had trouble painting the window frame and the wall behind the plant. Might not be best for Hive's situation, but for guarding a window, it's great. dtnwn

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