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Twisted Avatar | 02-09-2009 05:45 PM
The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Has anbody had any experience with this??? It looks like something everybody should load the boat on. More than one billion people � one sixth of the world�s population - are without access to safe water supply. At any given moment, about half of the world's poor are suffering from waterborne diseases, of which over 6,000 � mainly children � die each day by consuming unsafe drinking water. The world�s most prolific killer though is diarrhoeal disease from bacteria like typhoid, cholera, e. coli, salmonella and many others. Safe water interventions have vast potential to transform the lives of millions, especially in crucial areas such as poverty eradication, environmental upgradation, quality of life, child development and gender equality. LifeStraw was developed as a practical response to the billions of people who are still without access to these basic human rights. The aptly-named LifeStraw is an invention that could become one of the greatest life-savers in history. It is a 25 cm long, 29 mm diameter, plastic pipe filter and costs just a few dollars (the manufacturers originally informed us the price was around US$2.00 but the price is now under review and we'll be posting a new price shortly. The most prolific killer of human beings in developed countries is the automobile, followed by a host of diseases resulting mainly from an indulgent lifestyle. Millions of people perish every year because they simply don�t have clean water to drink. Until now, there was not much we could do about this because systems to clean water were costly and required electricity and spare parts and and and � but the LifeStraw now offers a viable means of saving tens of millions of lives every year. LifeStraw is a personal, low-cost water purification tool with a life time of 700 litres � approximately one year of water consumption for one person. Positive test results have been achieved on tap, turbid and saline water against common waterborne bacteria such as Salmonella, Shigella, Enterococcus and Staphylococcu. If we (as in the big WE) can find a way of manufacturing and distributing one of these to each human at risk, every year, we could save countless lives (now there�s a noble outcome for the tech blogs and mags of the world to work together to promote this). Each LifeStraw lasts for one person�s annual needs of clean water � a simple straw costing a few dollars will ensure that one at-risk person will not die for a year - now that's a donation we can all make with a serious kicker! This LifeStraw was designed with special emphasize on avoiding any moving parts, as a sealed unit with no replaceable spare parts, and avoiding the use of electricity, which does not exist in many areas in the 3rd world. But as force (power) is required to implement the filtering, Vestergaard Frandsen chose to use the natural source of sucking, that even babies are able to perform. A brief technical rundown is available at MedGadget, the internet journal of emerging medical technologies. Vestergaard Frandsen have managed to produce this product at a price that people in this business find hard to believe, but believed it had to achieve a price affordable to the Third World consumer. The original idea was created ten years ago by Torben Vestergaard Frandsen, but over the years in partnersjhip with The Carter Center, Rob Fleuren from Holland and Moshe Frommer from Israel, the Lifestraw emerged from work designed to make water filters capable of safeguarding against Guinea Worm. The invention which emanated from the work, the, LifeStraw, can keep away bacteria and diseases like diphtheria, cholera and diarrhoea. We�ll have more information on LifeStraw in the next week . In the meantime, LifeStraw has been nominated for a prestigious and vitally important INDEX: AWARDS INDEX: Awards focus specifically on design that significantly improves life for a large number of people and there�s a lot more information available in their nomination lists on the LifeStraw. The LifeStraw web site is now open. Our suggestion is that if you are involved in a charity or community group, you make your group aware of this invention and its potential to improve the lives of millions of our less fortunate planetary brethren. In the meantime, LifeStraw supplied this list of FAQs Q1. What is LifeStraw? LifeStraw is a portable water purification tool that cleanses surface water and makes it safe for human consumption. It is just 25 cm long and 29 mm in diameter and can be hung around the neck. LifeStraw requires no electrical power or spare parts. Q2. What does LifeStraw do? LifeStraw filters up to 700 litres of water and effectively removes most of the micro organisms responsible for causing waterborne diseases. Q3. Which diseases will LifeStraw prevent? LifeStraw kills disease causing micro organisms which spread diarrhoea, dysentery, typhoid, and Cholera. Q4. Which disease-causing micro organisms are filtered by LifeStraw? LifeStraw filters bacteria such as Shigella, Salmonella, Enterrococus, Staphylococcus Aureus and E.Coli Q5. Are there any tests to prove this? LifeStraw has been tested by independent and qualified research laboratories. Q6. How does LifeStraw function? LifeStraw contains PuroTech Disinfecting Resin (PDR) - a patented, extraordinarily effective material that kills bacteria on contact. Textile pre-filters are used in the LifeStraw to remove particles up to 15 microns. Active carbon withholds particles such as parasites. Q7. What do the tests and research studies indicate? The studies indicate the following: The level of bacteria in the water will be reduced to levels that will provide water safe for human consumption. �Safe� implies water from which any health risk is minimal. The particulate removal suggests that the number of any parasitic ova in raw water will also be reduced significantly. The released amount of iodine in water treated from LifeStraw is not normally damaging to human health. However, people having thyroid problems and allergic reaction to iodine must seek medical advice before using this tool. Q8. What is the life expectancy of the LifeStraw? One year from the start of usage (calculation based on consumption of 2 litre water per day) or 700 liters. Use beyond expiry will not deteriorate existing water quality. Q9. What is the required daily water consumption? The WHO default levels for the quantities of drinking water (reference to WHO drinking water quality guidelines Third edition 2004, Annex III), are: For a 10 kg child, 1 litre water per day - thus 700 days tool For a 60 kg adult, 2 litre water per day - thus a 350 days tool Q10. Who can use the LifeStraw? Adults and children of any age can use the LifeStraw, provided they have capacity to suck water Q11. How should LifeStraw be used the first time? First time users are advised to spit out the first couple of mouthfuls (40 ml) as a small amount of harmless black carbon water will be expelled on initial use. First time users may find it difficult to start sucking. This is because a natural brake on the flow of water has been put into the LifeStraw, as a controlled flow between 100 ml to 150 ml per minute is needed to get the maximum benefit of the bacteria killing effect. Q12. How can LifeStraw be effectively utilised? At regular intervals, it is recommended to blow out the last mouthful of water as well as some air through the LifeStraw. This will clean the pre-filters of whatever sand, silt and debris that might have got stuck in the textile filters. Q13. Does LifeStraw filter arsenic, iron, fluoride and other heavy metals? No. Q14. What is the impact of saline water on the lifetime of LifeStraw? It is expected that continuously drinking saline water through the LifeStraw would reduce effective life to 350 litres. Q15. Can I share my LifeStraw with other people? It is not recommended that you share your LifeStraw with others. Any outside contamination of the LifeStraw will not be compensated by inside purification. http://www.gizmag.com/go/4418/

Dirty Harry | 02-09-2009 07:34 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Couldn't find a place to purchase. At 2 bucks, I'm with you...back up the cart. :565:

Twisted Avatar | 02-09-2009 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry (Post 1559655) Couldn't find a place to purchase. At 2 bucks, I'm with you...back up the cart. :565:
Things are always cheaper abroad........

mtnman | 02-10-2009 01:16 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean They're not for sale in the USA. http://www.gadgetmadness.com/archive...into_water.php Web site http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/lifestraw.htm

Fullpower | 02-10-2009 01:17 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean so, what do ya get if you run CLEAN water through it backwards?

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1560394) They're not for sale in the USA. http://www.gadgetmadness.com/archive...into_water.php Web site http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/lifestraw.htm
So you mean to tell me that a cost effective way to use everyday water is available To THE ENTIRE FRICKEN THIRD WORLD. But is outlawed in the US?? Capitalism at its FINEST T

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1560395) so, what do ya get if you run CLEAN water through it backwards?
THE DEATH STRAW???

hypervel | 02-10-2009 11:15 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Bought a few in the 90's. Will have to locate them and verify brand.

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hypervel (Post 1560884) Bought a few in the 90's. Will have to locate them and verify brand.
Maybe somebody is Canada can buy them and ship them in???

Maxine | 02-10-2009 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1560899) Maybe somebody is Canada can buy them and ship them in???
I'll check out whether they will ship them to Canada. You call us 'the third world' up here, TA?:wink:

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxine (Post 1560984) I'll check out whether they will ship them to Canada. You call us 'the third world' up here, TA?:wink:
No I would never say that!!! But You were the first person that ran across my mind though:36_3_12:

Maxine | 02-10-2009 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1560992) No I would never say that!!! But You were the first person that ran across my mind though:36_3_12:
I've just sent them an email, I'll let you know what they say. But it'll cost you - would you email me a copy of that incredible helicopter pic you posted yesterday?

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 12:15 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Done!!!!!!!

Maxine | 02-10-2009 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1561023) Done!!!!!!!
Cheers TA.:coolbeer: I'll let you know when I hear back.

studiopaul | 02-10-2009 12:36 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean If you guys are real about buying these would love to get in on some.. In Pa and NYC so Iknow im close to some of you guys for delivery... Let me know what I can do to get in on this.... Cheers!!!:coolbeer:

Maxine | 02-10-2009 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by studiopaul (Post 1561056) If you guys are real about buying these would love to get in on some.. In Pa and NYC so Iknow im close to some of you guys for delivery... Let me know what I can do to get in on this.... Cheers!!!:coolbeer:
I'll email TA when I hear back from the company if they deliver to Canada. We can take it from there if they say they will.

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by studiopaul (Post 1561056) If you guys are real about buying these would love to get in on some.. In Pa and NYC so Iknow im close to some of you guys for delivery... Let me know what I can do to get in on this.... Cheers!!!:coolbeer:
Seriously...........it would be awesome to make like a 500-1k unit purchase. Though it may pose logistical problems or get red flaged if this becomes a "reoccuring" transaction. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

studiopaul | 02-10-2009 01:06 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Cool..anything I can do to consolidate and help! By the way TA... you work for PHOTOSHOP., a picture says a thousand words.. :biggrin:

studiopaul | 02-10-2009 01:18 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I guess we better get on it quick as shipping slows down further... im trying to buy all my preps in before Dollar takes a big $hit and that buying prep goods becomes more difficult.. not just on inflation but on difficulty of obtaining. Bet these would go well on Black market!! lol

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by studiopaul (Post 1561160) I guess we better get on it quick as shipping slows down further... im trying to buy all my preps in before Dollar takes a big $hit and that buying prep goods becomes more difficult.. not just on inflation but on difficulty of obtaining. Bet these would go well on Black market!! lol
As a cost cutting measure When the cities reduce water and sewage treatment. The abilty to go to the nearest source and drink water till your hearts content will raise you the status of Soveriegn Lord or Queen. To have the abilty to trade said items on the "free market" Well.........It's Kingpin time

Conk | 02-10-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1560395) so, what do ya get if you run CLEAN water through it backwards?
Coke Cola.

studiopaul | 02-10-2009 04:34 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1561374) As a cost cutting measure When the cities reduce water and sewage treatment. The abilty to go to the nearest source and drink water till your hearts content will raise you the status of Soveriegn Lord or Queen. To have the abilty to trade said items on the "free market" Well.........It's Kingpin time
LOOKS LIKE YOUR ON MY WAVELENGTH!!!! :bear_w00t::9536:bancha

Maxine | 02-10-2009 05:22 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Just to update you TA, I still haven't had a reply from them re the email I sent earlier. If I haven't had one by tomorrow I will email again. I am out for most tomorrow, by the way, so don't hold your breath!

Twisted Avatar | 02-10-2009 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxine (Post 1561700) Just to update you TA, I still haven't had a reply from them re the email I sent earlier. If I haven't had one by tomorrow I will email again. I am out for most tomorrow, by the way, so don't hold your breath!
Is okay........I got reall big lungs so I dont mind

Maxine | 02-10-2009 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1561732) Is okay........I got reall big lungs so I dont mind
Just so long as you do!:biggrin:

Baggerman | 02-10-2009 05:48 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I would also be interested in some of these if it can get done.

Maxine | 02-11-2009 09:02 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Hi TA, I have not had a response yet, and have just sent them a further email. But if you click on the link to the manufacturer that Mtn Man put up you will see that in small print at the bottom of the home page it says they are not available in North America yet, and 'soon to be available in Europe'. I'll let you know when I hear back. Maxine

Twisted Avatar | 02-11-2009 09:04 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Dam....... Bastards closed off ALL of North America. Thanks for keeping us in the loop. T

studiopaul | 02-11-2009 09:13 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I will try to search other distribution of product...by the way hope there aren't fake versions of this product as I dont want to be drinking a mouthful of $hit :puke::fan:

Dave | 02-11-2009 10:01 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I would be interested in a group purchase as well. Of course assuming we can find a supplier. This straw has great "tactical" benefit as well. Dave

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dlm1968 | 02-11-2009 10:11 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I am in if we can get them.

studiopaul | 02-11-2009 10:26 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I will resume search tonight ..gota head into work. Please keep me posted before a purchase order is made. Thanks all! :ok:

chad | 02-11-2009 10:29 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean i am in as well.

studiopaul | 02-12-2009 01:35 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Still looking... any word?

Twisted Avatar | 02-12-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by studiopaul (Post 1566013) Still looking... any word?
Max said she will keep us in the loop...........word is she waiting on a response from them. T

YellowDog | 02-12-2009 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1560819) So you mean to tell me that a cost effective way to use everyday water is available To THE ENTIRE FRICKEN THIRD WORLD. But is outlawed in the US?? Capitalism at its FINEST T
I bet it's actually "Nanny-Statism at its FINEST"! The LifeStraw is described as a "medical device" and if that is the case it falls under the purview of the FDA. I haven't bothered to do the research, so I could be wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that's why it's not available in the good ol' US of A. It takes a much larger investment of time and money than a $2 device will justify, to ram a product past the gatekeepers at the FDA. But it's for your own good, don'tcha know?

mick silver | 02-12-2009 02:29 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean ill take 2 if we can get them

Dirty Harry | 02-12-2009 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1566130) ill take 2 if we can get them
At $2, hell put me down for two dozen. :ok:

mtnman | 02-12-2009 04:28 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I think that on a Motorcycle forum I frequent there are some fellows living in Africa. I'll ask them about finding a source. Keep your fingers crossed.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

Twisted Avatar | 02-12-2009 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1566439) I think that on a Motorcycle forum I frequent there are some fellows living in Africa. I'll ask them about finding a source. Keep your fingers crossed.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
That would be AWESOME MM. I will do just that. T

Jimfrancisco | 02-12-2009 05:04 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean If they become available in Europe at that price, I'll buy a few hundred and make them into larger capacity filters to filter lake/well water at my BO place. 700 litres per straw times 400 = 280000 litres of potable water... 280 tonnes of it.

Jimfrancisco | 02-12-2009 05:09 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean As these are meant to be given free to Africans, and given the nature of trade/barter/BRIBE in Africa, I'd think they would need to be bought on the black market there - off the ship and into a container to be shipped back. Which seems a bit immoral, leaving people to die so that we can prep when there are already millions dying there from dirty water. If they are good, they will end up on the free market worldwide - not just as a way of preventing kids dying from Cholera, Dysentery, etc. Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1566439) I think that on a Motorcycle forum I frequent there are some fellows living in Africa. I'll ask them about finding a source. Keep your fingers crossed.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

Maxine | 02-12-2009 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowDog (Post 1566120) I bet it's actually "Nanny-Statism at its FINEST"! The LifeStraw is described as a "medical device" and if that is the case it falls under the purview of the FDA. I haven't bothered to do the research, so I could be wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that's why it's not available in the good ol' US of A. It takes a much larger investment of time and money than a $2 device will justify, to ram a product past the gatekeepers at the FDA. But it's for your own good, don'tcha know?
That could well be correct, and also explain why they are, so far not on sale in EU or North America. Too many regs. Let's see how Mtn Man gets on with his contacts. But what is it tells me that if his pals are white South Africans, this will remain an not to get item? These guys could not even bother to reply to two emails from me in Canada so far.

mtnman | 02-12-2009 06:57 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean So far I have had no responce from Africa but it's night there. I did get links to these... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...Specifications And these... Amazon Amazon We'll see what happens tomorrow.

Twisted Avatar | 02-12-2009 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1566785) So far I have had no responce from Africa but it's night there. I did get links to these... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...Specifications And these... http://www.amazon.com/Aquamira-Front.../dp/B000OR115W We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Excellent find MM Can anybody out there vouch for these??? T

Twisted Avatar | 02-12-2009 11:38 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean 1 Attachment(s) Thank you for your interest in our product. Unfortunately we still don�t have EPA registration approval and thus still not selling in Canada. Please check with us later in the year. Thanks again. Best Regards, Vanessa M. Garcia Administrative and Financial Assistant � the Americas Vestergaard Frandsen Inc. Address: 2300 Clarendon Boulevard, Suite 603 Arlington, VA 22201 Office: +1 571 527 2180 | Cell: +1 571 234 7354 | Fax: +1 703 997 3235 E-mail: vmg@vestergaard-frandsen.com | Web: www.vestergaard-frandsen.com

studiopaul | 02-12-2009 11:52 PM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1567317) Thank you for your interest in our product. Unfortunately we still don’t have EPA registration approval and thus still not selling in Canada. Please check with us later in the year. Thanks again. Best Regards, Vanessa M. Garcia Administrative and Financial Assistant – the Americas Vestergaard Frandsen Inc. Address: 2300 Clarendon Boulevard, Suite 603 Arlington, VA 22201 Office: +1 571 527 2180 | Cell: +1 571 234 7354 | Fax: +1 703 997 3235 E-mail: vmg@vestergaard-frandsen.com | Web: www.vestergaard-frandsen.com
We used to drink snake bite back in the uk... not very good for re hydration!!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead: Mexico maybe? My folkes still live in the UK.. i may see what there deal is?

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 02-13-2009 03:18 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Group Purchases....I'd be honored to get in on that. Sometimes I wonder if I'm prepping, or getting ready to open a general store.

Dirty Harry | 02-13-2009 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian (Post 1567532) Sometimes I wonder if I'm prepping, or getting ready to open a general store.
Unfortunately, I'm in firm belief that GIMers will be some of the few capable of being in that situation relatively soon.

studiopaul | 02-23-2009 12:38 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean Looking like a no g on this product thus far! Keeping the thread alive for alternatives... :coolbeer:

maddyn99 | 02-23-2009 07:45 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean This looks promising as well. The Family Lifestraw. http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/...w-f-claims.htm Quote:
Filters a minimum of 18,000 litres of water - provides safe drinking water for a family for up to 3 years (calculated approximately on a family's consumption of 20 litres water/day).

j-son | 02-23-2009 08:18 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean http://www.themountainhideaway.com/s...WaterProFilter

Chris_Is_Here | 02-23-2009 10:06 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean I'm surprised that no one has inquired as to whether or not the company is public - if this is a great idea, perhaps some dough could be made on the public shares?

Twisted Avatar | 02-23-2009 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1587981) http://www.themountainhideaway.com/s...WaterProFilter
Good find J Dose anybody have and experince with this??? T

Stealinator | 02-24-2009 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris_Is_Here (Post 1588143) I'm surprised that no one has inquired as to whether or not the company is public - if this is a great idea, perhaps some dough could be made on the public shares?
Didnt add to the kaboodle, but interesting, worthy of trying to find some sort of review on.

BikerJon | 02-24-2009 11:55 AM
Re: The LifeStraw makes dirty water clean http://www.basegear.com/aquamira-fro...emergency.html another personal water filter. Cost is $7.95 and filters 20gal Not the cost-gal ratio of the lifestraw but better than nothing I'm sure. I have not used this product, but might order a few for preps.

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