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Hivemindgammahydra7 | 10-16-2007 11:18 AM
What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? The new disarmament law our Governor [sic] just signed has me thinking about potential purchases before we're all forced to go black market. A local 01 FFL is a SigSauer dealer and I'm liking what I see... except for the price, which is high. What are your impressions of Sigs and if you own one or used to, how do/how did you like it? Thanks for any info...

learn2swim | 10-16-2007 11:23 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? It's worth the price. Remember, you get what you pay for! Shop around, check out gunbroker.com, or attend a local gun show. Guns are a good investment in more ways than one. Check out http://sigforum.com/

SilverCity | 10-16-2007 11:38 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Hive, Sig Sauers are first class firearms...my preferences are the single stack models--P220, P239, P225 because they fit my hands better. The double stacks feel a bit bulky in the hand and seem more difficult to conceal. There are several LE agencies that issue Sigs by the way... I currently own the P220 in 45 ACP. As much as I love the feel of the Sig in my hand, I find the muzzle flip--probably due to the grip angle--to be a little more noticeable than say the Glock. It has fine accuracy, premium reliability, and I would consider it to be a first or second choice in a defensive handgun. I own mostly Glocks and the above mentioned Sig is the only one I currently have...

The Argent Dragon | 10-16-2007 11:40 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? My brother who's an officer in the US Army says his Sig is highly accurate and it's his favorite sidearm. Sig's are probably more accurate than Glocks from what I've heard. I've yet to fire one though.......

shades2 | 10-16-2007 11:40 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Awesome guns. I still need to complete my shipment of a P226R. Get a .357SIG, it's a drop-in barrel replacement to go back to .40 or 9mm apparently. You cannot however go from 9mm to .40 or .357SIG the same way apparently. (I may be wrong on this).

shades2 | 10-16-2007 11:45 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 781739) My brother who's an officer in the US Army says his Sig is highly accurate and it's his favorite sidearm. Sig's are probably more accurate than Glocks from what I've heard. I've yet to fire one though.......
We use the X5 226 SIG for competitive target shooting in 9mm. That's how accurate these are out of the box. Trigger is awesome. http://www.gun-review.com/reviews/ra...ewId=190&cat=1

Wyldwil | 10-16-2007 11:51 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 781715) The new disarmament law our Governor [sic] just signed has me thinking about potential purchases before we're all forced to go black market. A local 01 FFL is a SigSauer dealer and I'm liking what I see... except for the price, which is high. What are your impressions of Sigs and if you own one or used to, how do/how did you like it? Thanks for any info...
Worth every penny, even if they were higher priced! IMHO, a Sig is as reliable as a glock, and nearly as durable. YouTube - FirepowerTV Ultimate Gun Tortue Test
YouTube - FirepowerTV Ultimate Gun Tortue Test
The first gun I bought was a Sig 229. It has never jammed on me once. I only once briefly thought about trading it. That's saying a lot, I trade out a lot of guns, all of them in fact......

eyeofliberty | 10-16-2007 11:54 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Top notch pistols, from what I hear. My favorite gun dealer/gunsmith here in town speaks very highly of them. I'm a Glock owner, but I'm seriously considering getting a Sig as well.

wallew | 10-16-2007 12:16 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? ANY Sig is an excellent weapon. Choose carefully because they are not cheap. One caveat should go with this particular weapon. They are all made to very tight specs. Which is what makes them such GREAT shooters. As long as you are shooting new factory ammo, which is fairly clean you should have no problems. If you have to start shooting reloads, especially using 'dirty powder' - like out of date powder can become or home made type of powder, then this MAY NOT be the weapon of choice. Because once they become dirty, malfunctions can and do occur. Having said that, the SIGS are really nice firearms. I've fired most of them at one time or another. As with ANY semi auto firearm, stock up on mags now, because eventually availability could be an issue. hope that helps

shades2 | 10-16-2007 12:16 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 781776) Top notch pistols, from what I hear. My favorite gun dealer/gunsmith here in town speaks very highly of them. I'm a Glock owner, but I'm seriously considering getting a Sig as well.
The Glock is a great rugged, accurate, practical pistol. The SIG is designed as a quality combat firearm with extreme accuracy (no lowest bidder here!). The DA/SA models are designed for quick, accurate second-strike capability, they offer these in DA/SA, SA and DAK. Yes, they are expensive. Yes, you sometimes get what you pay for in this life, and you will never regret buying a SIG. Yes, I'm starting to rave, but once you try one you will likely be a convert also.

REV127 | 10-16-2007 12:36 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? First I will say Sigs are good guns. With that out of the way, Sigs are also coolguy guns. If you want to be a cool guy and are willing to pay for it, buy a Sig. If that doesn't matter to you then you should look at the CZ line. The ergonomics, accuracy and reliability are comparable. They have internal slide rails but a lower bore axis than the Sigs so they have less muzzle flip. You have your choice of all steel or aluminum framed models. They're nigh indestructible and cost less. http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns.php

eyeofliberty | 10-16-2007 12:54 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 781821) First I will say Sigs are good guns. With that out of the way, Sigs are also coolguy guns. If you want to be a cool guy and are willing to pay for it, buy a Sig. If that doesn't matter to you then you should look at the CZ line. The ergonomics, accuracy and reliability are comparable. They have internal slide rails but a lower bore axis than the Sigs so they have less muzzle flip. You have your choice of all steel or aluminum framed models. They're nigh indestructible and cost less.
Thanks for your perspective here, Rev. I was waiting for you to chime in. I like CZ as well. What's your opinion of Taurus handguns? Yeah, after looking at those Sig prices (I know, I know, you get what you pay for), YIKES!

<SLV> | 10-16-2007 01:19 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Get a half-dozen Kel-Tecs for the same price (about $250 each). I tend to lean toward value (not "cheap" clunky guns, though, like Hi-point). I know the Kel-Tecs have had some out of the box problems, but from what I understand the company has a FAST turn-around on any service and the serviced guns work fine. There is also a lifetime warranty no matter who bought it originally. On the other hand - it is hard to beat a Glock if you don't mind the bulkiness.

shades2 | 10-16-2007 01:31 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 781770) Worth every penny, even if they were higher priced! IMHO, a Sig is as reliable as a glock, and nearly as durable. YouTube - FirepowerTV Ultimate Gun Tortue Test The first gun I bought was a Sig 229. It has never jammed on me once. I only once briefly thought about trading it. That's saying a lot, I trade out a lot of guns, all of them in fact......
What the hell is that thing on that guys head? LOL.

REV127 | 10-16-2007 01:55 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 781835) Thanks for your perspective here, Rev. I was waiting for you to chime in. I like CZ as well. What's your opinion of Taurus handguns? Yeah, after looking at those Sig prices (I know, I know, you get what you pay for), YIKES!
I mentioned CZ because CZ's have the same features that made Sigs famous like the all steel construction, ergos, internal slide rails, etc and in some cases are better such as less muzzle flip and lower price. Taurus is a whole different animal, their guns don't draw from Sig influences but from Beretta and S&W influences. That said I like the Taurus revolvers, a number have passed through my hands and my wife currently has one of their .357's. Very accurate, great trigger. I don't see the point in buying any Beretta 92 derived gun. Why settle for an aluminum frame when there are fullsize steel frame alternatives that weigh less and aren't as bulky? I haven't messed around much with their other autos but they generally have a decent reputation among those who own and shoot them. My wife has a P-11, worked great right out of the box. It does have a very heavy trigger, that can be lightened fairly easy but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I just can't get excited about polymer frame guns. 100 years from now my great grandchildren will still be shooting and enjoying my steel framed firearms. Realistically the poly frames will be unuseable by that time. They do make some sense if you really need to save on weight.

Wyldwil | 10-16-2007 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 781904) I just can't get excited about polymer frame guns. 100 years from now my great grandchildren will still be shooting and enjoying my steel framed firearms..
Jeeez....you're quite the optimist aren't you?? :applause_:applause_:applause_ Hopefully humans will enjoy those freedoms 100 years from now. Hopefully humans will be around to enjoy oxygen 100 years from now.

<SLV> | 10-16-2007 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 781978) Jeeez....you're quite the optimist aren't you?? :applause_:applause_:applause_ Hopefully humans will enjoy those freedoms 100 years from now. Hopefully humans will be around to enjoy oxygen 100 years from now.
I have a pair of PF-9s for me and the wife. Really easy to carry concealed. I'm most concerned about the next 10-15 years than the next 100. My AKs can be passed down to my grandkids (assuming they haven't busted down my door to take them away).

negative1 | 10-16-2007 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wallew (Post 781802) ANY Sig is an excellent weapon. Choose carefully because they are not cheap.
It pays to have dealers as friends. Here's a pic of my 226s laying on a shirt. http://www.hunt101.com/img/522557.JPG The one on the left was $425 the one on the right was $375. Both are astounding shooters. -1

Anty Ep | 10-16-2007 02:41 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 781821) First I will say Sigs are good guns. With that out of the way, Sigs are also coolguy guns. If you want to be a cool guy and are willing to pay for it, buy a Sig. If that doesn't matter to you then you should look at the CZ line. The ergonomics, accuracy and reliability are comparable. They have internal slide rails but a lower bore axis than the Sigs so they have less muzzle flip. You have your choice of all steel or aluminum framed models. They're nigh indestructible and cost less. http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns.php
hey man you sayin CZs arent cool? They're cool and about as close as a handgun can get to "sexy" look at the lines and whistle! http://www.cz-usa.com/data/productimg/main033.png

REV127 | 10-16-2007 02:43 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? hahaha.... Yes, I think in terms of multi-generational wealth. A large factor in choosing my wife was her genetic contribution to my unborn children. That's also a large part of why I'm interested in precious metals and farming. 100 years isn't that far away, anyway. I'll very likely still be alive in 70 years if my forefathers were any example. My children will be stronger and smarter than the great mass of their contemporaries, as will their children and so on down through the ages. I'm fairly certain a large portion of humanity will kill itself off between now and then, though. I also make no promises that my descendants will even live on this planet. Earth was great but all the jerks messed it up. If it was currently practical for me I'd already be living in a space colony. Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here! :tongue_ma: :D Did you ever wonder why there is an inheritance tax? Should be called the "keep them serfs tax."

MarinePride | 10-16-2007 04:30 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? They are very well made pistols and they cost a lot of money. If you are not a fan of a polymer framed pistol, the SIG is what you want. Magazines for a P226, P220, P229 or P239 can cost about $30-35 each. This is something to think about if you like to buy extra high caps. One of the best deals going right now is to buy a CPO, which stands for a Certified Pre Owned Sig. These can be had in the $500 to $600 dollar range on gunbroker.com and that's how I got into owning a SIG in the first place. I'd like to have one of each model they make and eventually I will, but with the falling dollar, SIG's will get more expensive here in the US.

Horn | 10-16-2007 04:34 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Best in the class. Somewhat bulky.

tinman | 10-16-2007 04:56 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by shades2 (Post 781751) Awesome guns. I still need to complete my shipment of a P226R. Get a .357SIG, it's a drop-in barrel replacement to go back to .40 or 9mm apparently. You cannot however go from 9mm to .40 or .357SIG the same way apparently. (I may be wrong on this).
Only .357sig and .40 are interchangeable by changing the barrel. 9mm uses a different slide and recoil spring. I have read that you should not use the different slides on the same frame. I bought a 226 in .40 and use a separate 9mm frame, barrel, and spring, and I don't see what the problem would be. Edit: I think there might be some aftermarket barrels in 9mm that can be used in a .40 frame.

The Argent Dragon | 10-16-2007 09:07 PM
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SilverCity | 10-16-2007 09:11 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Nice. One of my favorite Sig Sauers.:wink:

REV127 | 10-16-2007 09:28 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? The 225 might be an interesting alternative to the Makarov at that price. It's about an inch longer, maybe a little bulkier but otherwise of similar dimensions.

MOD1 | 10-16-2007 09:52 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? I have a Sig P239 in 9mm - good trigger, very accurate and fairly compact. I also have a Pre-B CZ75 in 9mm. The CZ fits my hand very well, but the single action trigger pull is a tad creepy. I may have an action job done on it this winter. Take care, Mod1

didgmike | 10-16-2007 10:20 PM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? mmmmmmmm gun porn. http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/...58a787ae96.jpg

shades2 | 10-17-2007 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by didgmike (Post 782900) mmmmmmmm gun porn. http://www.rainierarms.com/img/shop/...58a787ae96.jpg
You will notice how all the edges are rounded off, for snagless draw from clothing etc...

didgmike | 10-17-2007 06:34 AM
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You will notice how all the edges are rounded off, for snagless draw from clothing etc...
Ohh yes, my friend...sexiest handgun Ive seen. It feels so good in my hand, too. I want it in the .40s&w, but the $800 tag is laughing at me.:thumpdown layaway, maybe?

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Anty Ep | 10-17-2007 10:08 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 782026) hahaha.... Did you ever wonder why there is an inheritance tax? Should be called the "keep them serfs tax."
there are only six or so states with an actual inheritance tax separate and apart from the fed estate tax, and almost nobody gets hit with that one anymore since its on estates over 2 mil last time I checked and headed higher. but the state inheritance taxes, where they got em, bring in a lot smaller estates Thomas Jefferson was in favor of a radical estate tax that would have seemed like pure communism if you read what he wrote. I am not sure what he wrote that in, since it was long ago I read it. Mostly he figured it encouraged bad habits among the heirs. Generally that is true.

TUMS | 10-18-2007 12:18 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Glock is the poor mans Sig. One of the reasons why a lot of police departments use Glocks more is they can get better deals on them. I have 2 Sigs P229, P239. I just added crimson trace laser grips to the P229. They are both really nice guns. P239 is perfect for conceal carry & a better gun for people with small hands.

DrillAndFill | 10-18-2007 01:41 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? I owned a Sig P229 (.45) for a couple of years, and stupidly sold it. Vy accurate -- it pushed evenly against your hand, and helped me with my trigger-jerk habits. I shot slightly better with that gun than with a 9-mm HK or a baby Glock 26. I always think of it as a mild-mannered .45, if you can imagine such an animal as that. I'd like to get a P226 in .40 soon, as that's my home calibre now and forever more. Or maybe the 2340, under its latest moniker -- the Sig Pro -- polymer pistol. The main negative thing I can say about Sigs is that you have to watch the ammo, because they won't feed everything perfectly, but you can solve that with lots of practice on different ammo (fun but $$). Also, they tend to be larger than competitors equivalent offerings. I think my top-choice .40 is the Sig Pro, with the Glock 22 second choice. I already own the second choice, and I won't be selling it.

shades2 | 10-18-2007 09:26 AM
Re: What are your thoughts on SigSauer semi-auto pistols? Quote:
Originally Posted by DrillAndFill (Post 785023) I owned a Sig P229 (.45) for a couple of years, and stupidly sold it. Vy accurate -- it pushed evenly against your hand, and helped me with my trigger-jerk habits. I shot slightly better with that gun than with a 9-mm HK or a baby Glock 26. I always think of it as a mild-mannered .45, if you can imagine such an animal as that. I'd like to get a P226 in .40 soon, as that's my home calibre now and forever more. Or maybe the 2340, under its latest moniker -- the Sig Pro -- polymer pistol. The main negative thing I can say about Sigs is that you have to watch the ammo, because they won't feed everything perfectly, but you can solve that with lots of practice on different ammo (fun but $$). Also, they tend to be larger than competitors equivalent offerings. I think my top-choice .40 is the Sig Pro, with the Glock 22 second choice. I already own the second choice, and I won't be selling it.
SIG P226 in .40 is a very good choice. The only thing better perhaps is a 357SIG, but the ammo cost is more pronounced. Feed reliability with 357SIG is apparently amazing because it is a tapered cartridge.

DrillAndFill | 10-18-2007 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by shades2 (Post 785385) SIG P226 in .40 is a very good choice. The only thing better perhaps is a 357SIG, but the ammo cost is more pronounced. Feed reliability with 357SIG is apparently amazing because it is a tapered cartridge.
I must try the 357SIG version -- a friend has one. BTW, I should have said P220 for my old .45 above. Guess I repressed the model number from my memory to avoid confront the pain of stupidly selling it.

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