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Fermentation | 11-18-2008 01:05 AM
Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. 3 Attachment(s) I'm travelling and looking for a place to relocate at the moment. I've decided on Asia, I love to eat weird things when I get the chance. One of my favorites things to do in any country is to try the weirdest foods they have to offer. I scored big time yesteday: Big Green Water Beetles - Those big wings get in the way when you're eating them, a very sweet insect like phermone taste. Some yellow and chartruese colored filling inside. Weirdest taste of them all. Sweet! Small Black Beetles - Like deep fried beetles would taste. No other way to describe it. Hard exoskeleton makes you think too long about what you're eating as you naw on the wings and things. The least tasty of them all. Small crickets - Very good, like deep fried potatoto chips, but this ain't yo moma's potatoe chips. There was certainly some MSG in there. Yummy nonetheless. actually chumping away on them now as I type, greasy keyboard, greasy little buggers! um! Big crickets- Like the small ones above, but not as tasty. Maybe the size. It easier to pretend you're not eating bugs when you eat the smaller crickets. Taranulas - So I ask the vendor how you eat these and she said just pop the whole damn thing in your mouth. I did, It was delicuos, my favorite. Very rich, foie gras like consistency inside. Filled with yellow and black goop too. I'd take seconds on these spiders. Served up with a heaping of Garlic. good I tell you, good. Whole Fried frogs - Imagine Frog chips insted of potato chips, definetely not like chicken, a tie for my favorite,you eat the bones and all, as they're deep fried and crispy to the corp.I think it helps with prepping for SHTF ( psychological fortitude). If I were forced to eat soemthing I'm not accustomed too, I could pull it off no problem, a lot of people couldn't. Here's some pics:

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 01:09 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. 3 Attachment(s) More pics:

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 01:13 AM
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Master_Ho | 11-18-2008 01:42 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Did I miss the recipies??? I have a bunch but always looking for more!!!

Lars Ragnarsson | 11-18-2008 01:46 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Was that snake-on-a-stick? Looks yummy! Did you try that? Edit: Okay, I saw the title as I rolled over the picture this time. So, did you try it?

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 02:12 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1421420) Was that snake-on-a-stick? Looks yummy! Did you try that? Edit: Okay, I saw the title as I rolled over the picture this time. So, did you try it?
Going back to try the snake today. I was really full after the spiders.

Cassandra | 11-18-2008 02:19 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Here is my recipe for eating insects: 1. Feed the insects to your chicken(s) 2. Eat the eggs that she lays. Sunny side up, by preference. I'd have to be awfully hungry to eat them myself!

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 02:26 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1421418) Did I miss the recipies??? I have a bunch but always looking for more!!!
Made you look! :36_3_12:

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 02:33 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra (Post 1421440) Here is my recipe for eating insects: 1. Feed the insects to your chicken(s) 2. Eat the eggs that she lays. Sunny side up, by preference. I'd have to be awfully hungry to eat them myself!
Not soooo Bad!

compass | 11-18-2008 02:39 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra (Post 1421440) Here is my recipe for eating insects: 1. Feed the insects to your chicken(s) 2. Eat the eggs that she lays. Sunny side up, by preference. I'd have to be awfully hungry to eat them myself!
I'm in complete agreement! Chickens magically turn insects into tasty eggs.

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by compass (Post 1421450) I'm in complete agreement! Chickens magically turn insects into tasty eggs.
Ohhh come on guys! it Ain't so bad! Seriously!

Master_Ho | 11-18-2008 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1421443) Made you look! :36_3_12:
Yes- and I am logged into this thread in case anyone else posts any - don't make me post all of mine!!!! ASIAN CICADAS RECIPE<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> 3 hands full of soft-shell cicadas (cicadas are insects)<o:p></o:p> 1/4 cup peanuts <o:p></o:p> 1/4 cup balsamic vinegar <o:p></o:p> 1/4 cup soy sauce <o:p></o:p> 1 teaspoon fresh ginger <o:p></o:p> 1 tablespoon hot chili paste <o:p></o:p> 1 teaspoon sugar <o:p></o:p> cornstarch <o:p></o:p> egg <o:p></o:p> lettuce leaves for serving <o:p></o:p> 1. Dip the cicadas into the egg and then into the cornstarch and fry until golden brown. 2. In another pan caramelize the balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, peanuts and ginger (toss the peanuts and ginger in first for about 2 minutes with a little oil). 3. Add remaining sauce ingredients and simmer for 2 minutes. Toss the Cicadas in the sauce pan and serve with chilled lettuce leaves which should be used to wrap and hold the fried cicadas.

Lars Ragnarsson | 11-18-2008 02:57 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. You know, Ferm, you're right about Americans. When TSHTF, a whole bunch of us are going to have to get over our food aversions. Compared to most, my case is mild. There's lots of stuff I'll eat that most people won't touch - but I realize I still have some aversions I need to work on. BTW, I'm sorry if I missed it in the text, and I can't tell by the picture. I'm guessing you're in Vietnam - am I close?

mrdirp | 11-18-2008 03:04 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. This is so funny because today I was having this topic of conversation....we were discussing what it was like to eat cicadas and I was aruging that they weren't so bad and that they were full of protein. Interesting those little mofos look delicious!

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 06:40 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1421467) You know, Ferm, you're right about Americans. When TSHTF, a whole bunch of us are going to have to get over our food aversions. Compared to most, my case is mild. There's lots of stuff I'll eat that most people won't touch - but I realize I still have some aversions I need to work on. BTW, I'm sorry if I missed it in the text, and I can't tell by the picture. I'm guessing you're in Vietnam - am I close?
DAMN CLOSE!!!!!!! Let's just say S.E. ASIA! Good on you! :applause_:ok::ok::ok:

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 06:45 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdirp (Post 1421472) This is so funny because today I was having this topic of conversation....we were discussing what it was like to eat cicadas and I was aruging that they weren't so bad and that they were full of protein. Interesting those little mofos look delicious!
You know, I've always been curious about weird foods in foreign lands. Been travelling since I was a pup. A crumb to some, is a plum to others. I think you can eat anything. My Grandma once fed me a Possum when I was down South in Alabama as a kid, she baked it with sweet Potatoes. My mom was pissed, and I loved it to death. Me and my Grand Dad ate it all. I still remember how fun and exciting it was. One of the fondest memories I have of my Grand Father. Bring on the squirrel and gravy, and don't forget a side of biscuits. Tell em Grand Ma!

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 08:18 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. 1 Attachment(s) Think I'll try something new tonight, maybe a scorpion roasted over garlic. um!

mamboni | 11-18-2008 08:30 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. 1 Attachment(s) Eat bugs? Yuck! That's revolting!!! I'd rather eat 'Chilled Monkey Brains!"

mtnman | 11-18-2008 09:22 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra (Post 1421440) Here is my recipe for eating insects: 1. Feed the insects to your chicken(s) 2. Eat the eggs that she lays. Sunny side up, by preference. I'd have to be awfully hungry to eat them myself!
I agree totally! Bugs are for the chickens! As long as there are birds (any kind) I won't go hungry.

diversified2 | 11-18-2008 09:27 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. :111:You can have my share of the insects!!!! Honest I think I'm gonna hurl. Back to loading up more food preps....I have been working on this for 6 months now. You have suddenly motivated me to store enough for 5 years! Thanks I think!!!!! BTW I have killed every spider in my house manually...no toxins...I haven't seen one in the past month....I look for them daily. Sorry I could have mailed you the remains LMAO

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 11:07 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. It really isn't that bad! The taste is pleasant and crispy, mostly. I didn't know people would be so offended or I wouldn't have posted it. My apologies to those offended. i would delete the thread, but I think someone might get motivation from it, I certainly would. i won't dare tell you what I ate today or post more pics. You'd be surprised! Crisp, cripsy, crispy!

Codger | 11-18-2008 11:40 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Great thread. Sharing this kind of information really expands the knowledge base of GIM. I've eaten a lot of bugs but mostly accidental. My Uncle used to fry up grasshoppers for us as kids and occasionally dip them in chocolate. I've really expanded my ability to try new things, but your description of the spider may have killed that one for me. I still have trouble with black goo. I too am curious about the snake, mostly by how they have prepared it. Please do try it and get back to us. I want to know about the skin and bones.

Cassandra | 11-18-2008 12:17 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1421865) It really isn't that bad! The taste is pleasant and crispy, mostly. I didn't know people would be so offended or I wouldn't have posted it. My apologies to those offended. i would delete the thread, but I think someone might get motivation from it, I certainly would. i won't dare tell you what I ate today or post more pics. You'd be surprised! Crisp, cripsy, crispy!
Aw, we're not offended, just a bit grossed out. Does our being grossed out offend you? It's good information, if not for practical use (hopefully!) then at least for perspective & mental preparation. After TSHTF and I'm sealed up in my bunker eating SPAM for the nth meal straight, I'll be able to look back on this thread and say, "at least I'm not eating bugs". :biggrin: And as diversified points out, it's good for momentum to top up the food preps! I have to say though, that those snakes don't look half bad if properly seasoned, and SE Asians do know their spices.

ShortJohnSilver | 11-18-2008 12:46 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Well, maybe you could try (per "recipes") some of what John the Baptist ate: locusts and wild honey. I have heard of cases where locusts and crickets (are they the same?) are caught in big nets held by five or six people, they they are all deep-fried in a big vat. The taste is all the sweeter because of revenge! - the crispy critters eat crops and destroy plants.

Cassandra | 11-18-2008 12:49 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by ShortJohnSilver (Post 1422054) Well, maybe you could try (per "recipes") some of what John the Baptist ate: locusts and wild honey. I have heard of cases where locusts and crickets (are they the same?) are caught in big nets held by five or six people, they they are all deep-fried in a big vat. The taste is all the sweeter because of revenge! - the crispy critters eat crops and destroy plants.
Life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Life gives you a plague of locusts, fry 'em up and eat 'em with honey!

mamboni | 11-18-2008 01:02 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. I'm sure the SPAM makers will try to shut this thread down, lest some of us choose Tarantula Stew over Spam & Eggs as our meal-du-jour when TSHTF.:sarc::sarc::sarc::sarc:

Riskfactor | 11-18-2008 01:48 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. I bet eating that tarantula would help me get over my arachnophobia. :D

GoldenPoet | 11-18-2008 03:02 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. I would like to try them without knowing what they are.:36_1_32v:

mamboni | 11-18-2008 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 1422338) Probably much healthier food for a body than the processed crap in the grocery stores foisted onto us by faceless trans-nationals (so long as the insects haven't been exposed to pesticides or other chemicals).
So if you are starving, and in my left palm I offer you fried beetles on a bed of chopped garlic earthworms; and in my right I offer you a slice of spam with a dollop of mustard, you would choose the beetles?

Codger | 11-18-2008 04:02 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 1422338) (so long as the insects haven't been exposed to pesticides or other chemicals).
OOOhhh, I don't suppose there was a guy standing in the background with an empty can of Raid? Perhaps the guy selling these bugs has a second job as an exterminator? Was your tongue numb after eating them?:biggrin:

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Master_Ho | 11-18-2008 04:04 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by ShortJohnSilver (Post 1422054) Well, maybe you could try (per "recipes") some of what John the Baptist ate: locusts and wild honey. I have heard of cases where locusts and crickets (are they the same?) are caught in big nets held by five or six people, they they are all deep-fried in a big vat. The taste is all the sweeter because of revenge! - the crispy critters eat crops and destroy plants.
Pound for pound, grasshoppers are 3 times as nutritious than beef. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> GRASSHOPPERS, FRIED: For Campouts or at Home March 1998. Volume 11, Issue #1.<o:p></o:p> by Charles Griffith, M.S. Retired Clinical Psychologist; Private Consultant. <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place><st1:City>Ozark</st1:City>, <st1:State>Arkansas</st1:State><st1:PostalCode>72949</st1:PostalCode></st1:place>-8810<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Editor's note: The following was sent to us as a Letter to the Editor. We thought many of you would be interested in Mr. Griffith's insights and so are including his entire communication unedited. <o:p></o:p> Having been an edible wild plant enthusiast for years, my wife and I taught classes on the subject at both <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Yellowstone</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> where we worked for three summers in the mid-eighties and in <st1:State><st1:place>Colorado</st1:place></st1:State>. Our most recent classes (three successive summers) have been under the auspices of the Colorado Mountain College Rendezvous (a re-enactment of the trappers' rendezvous that were held in the <st1:place>Rocky Mountains</st1:place> between 1810 and ] 840). These events are held each summer in August, usually in one of the National Forests near <st1:place><st1:City>Fairplay</st1:City>, <st1:State>Colorado</st1:State></st1:place>, and sponsored by the Colorado Black Powder Association. <o:p></o:p> Often students want to know if one can survive on wild edible plants alone in an emergency situation. Since I have never attempted a survival experiment, I have not been able to definitively answer that question, but the more I think about the question the more inclined I am to believe that more protein and fat would need to be a part of a survival diet and thus plants alone would probably not be enough--especially in the Rocky Mountain west where even Euell Gibbons found meager pickings. Plants might sustain someone in the short run a few days or a week or two at most, but it seems that some harvest from the animal kingdom would eventually have to be a part of the survival diet mix unless lots of nuts were available (sorry about that, vegetarians). <o:p></o:p> In almost all of Gibbons' "wild parties" and survival outings, he included items from the "fauna" category such as fish, crayfish and other seafood, frog legs, game fowl, and some outright "varmints," such as an unlucky porcupine he found wandering out in the Colorado wilderness on one of his adventure trips. Although Gibbons never spoke much of hunting game, as such, he certainly seemed to have the knowledge and skill to quickly take advantage of a wandering member of the animal world. Although a porcupine is not a difficult animal to kill, he would probably have to have some knowledge of skinning and dressing the animal. <o:p></o:p> Recently, we found the recipe in a popular outdoor magazine from the early 1990s. It was a recipe for fried grasshoppers that was so good that we'd like to pass it along. It seems that grasshoppers are plentiful enough that in a pinch, they might be able to provide the protein portion of a survival diet, if a person can get over any "insect as a food" prejudice from which we, too, have been victim. We had been trying to work up to eating an insect for years. Finally, we gave in to grasshoppers. "Pretty good!" And they are certainly plentiful during a large part of the year and fairly easy to catch--another advantage. <o:p></o:p> First, catch a bunch of grasshoppers and leave them in a jar overnight to purge (if you're finicky). Then boil them for ten minutes, after which you can easily remove the large legs, and wings, too, if they are also large. <o:p></o:p> Next, in a bowl, beat one or more eggs, depending on how many grasshoppers you have, to which you add the little critters after removing the legs and wings. Then put the beaten-egg-covered "hoppers" in a paper sack or plastic bag which contains some yellow or white cornmeal and shake. Next, place the egg and cornmeal-covered grasshoppers one by-one into a small frying pan with an inch (2.54 cm) of hot cooking oil and fry until golden brown. After cooking, remove the hoppers from the skillet and place them on paper towels - to soak up any excess oil. Our family experimented by eating them plain, and dipped in mustard, catsup, horseradish, or honey. We could have tried lots of other dips, too, I suppose. We liked them best with honey; small wonder, we have heard that the "honey and locusts" that John, the Baptist, ate, was really a mis-translation of "honey and grasshoppers," Can anyone verify that? <o:p></o:p> Anyway, eating them fried and without any honey or catsup, etc., they tasted something like fried okra. We liked them well enough to have had them several times now. In a survival situation, we suppose one might want to just roast them on a rock next to a fire, unless you have some cookware and oil along. We would be delighted to see more articles or letters about abundant, easy to catch insects, or even more recipes for grasshoppers. We think that in writing "insects as food" articles, it is important to try to describe the taste of the various food items to help people get over their fear of the unknown. Please feel free to contact me: Charles Griffith; <st1:address><st1:Street>8514 Beulahland Drive</st1:Street>, <st1:City>Ozark</st1:City>, <st1:State>AR</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode>72949</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>-8810; phone: 479-667-9820. <o:p></o:p> Postscript: During this past decade, while the <st1:City><st1:place>Griffiths</st1:place></st1:City> were perfecting their fried grasshopper procedures, young son, Joshua was watching his parents. Now, as a 12 year old, Joshua (and his parents) find it quite usual for him and his friends to bring in a handful (or, perhaps, a hat-full) of grasshopper from the prairie where they live, for mom to fry for a tasty snack for them. Yes, many Euro-Americans, contemporaries of Joshua, are growing up with similar attitudes, grasshoppers mean "tasty snack!" <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> CHOCOLATE COVERED GRASSHOPPERS<o:p></o:p> by Kathy Gee and Julie Stephens<o:p></o:p> http://www.ent.iastate.edu/misc/insectsasfood/blox.html<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ingredients: baker's chocolate candied crickets Directions: Melt baker's chocolate in double boiler. Fill molds halfway with chocolate, add grasshoppers, fill rest of the way. <o:p></o:p> A tasty surprise in every one! <o:p></o:p> Insect preparation: To clean insects, place in a colander or fine mesh strainer, rinse and pat dry. Dry roast in a 300 degree oven until crispy. They can be ground into flour, cut into pieces or used whole. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> GRASSHOPPER FRITTERS from 'Ronald Taylor's "Butterflies in My Stomach"<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> 3/4 cup sifted flour 1 teaspoon baking powder 1 teaspoon salt 3/4 cup milk 1 egg slightly beaten 1 cup grasshoppers <o:p></o:p> 1. Sift flour, baking powder and salt together into a bowl. Slowly add milk and beat until smooth. Add egg and beat well. <o:p></o:p> 2. Pluck off grasshopper wings and legs, heads optional. <o:p></o:p> 3. Dip insects in egg batter and deep fry. Salt and serve.

Conk | 11-18-2008 04:19 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. The trick is to grind them up into an unidentifiable mix. Lightly fry them up, salt, and grind up. I could eat them as long as they don't look like bugs. Be fun picking legs and antenna out of your teeth. :wink:

Yenomsi | 11-18-2008 04:41 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. I could probably do the crickets and beetles OK, but I hafta say, those tarantulas look something nasty! :452:

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 05:27 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. The tarantulas actually taste the best! Those Green Water bug, well I didn't like them. As for a choice between Spam and the bugs, give me the organic bugs. I reckon it's a personal choice. Healthier, more nutritious, and no preservatives. People can eat Spam if they like, I just don't want it. Diversity of taste makes for an interesting site.

JJ_ | 11-18-2008 06:24 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by ShortJohnSilver (Post 1422054) Well, maybe you could try (per "recipes") some of what John the Baptist ate: locusts and wild honey. I have heard of cases where locusts and crickets (are they the same?) are caught in big nets held by five or six people, they they are all deep-fried in a big vat. The taste is all the sweeter because of revenge! - the crispy critters eat crops and destroy plants.
yup - the bedouins eat em too...

Lars Ragnarsson | 11-18-2008 07:08 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Hey! Still waiting for a report on the Snake-on-a-Stick!

Fermentation | 11-18-2008 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lars Ragnarsson (Post 1422781) Hey! Still waiting for a report on the Snake-on-a-Stick!
Very crispy like chicken, you can eat the bones and all in some areas. White meat and tasty, a bit like a mix of chicken and eel. Not fishy tasty though. Lots of garlic flavor, again I think some MSG was in there, I wish they wouldn't do that. Good, a tie for best tasting! I think they do it different ways though.

BeeYourself | 11-19-2008 01:02 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Actually this makes good sense since it seems to be a food supply that most likely will never run out and can last through most anything. Food for thought. For now I will happily remain vegetarian. But in a crunch, I would eat them sure.

JD4x4 | 11-19-2008 08:04 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Fermentation- 3rd post, 3rd pic .... Not sure what we're eatin' here but if it's guess #1... Aren't the hats/helmets hard to pass? .. and if its guess #2... Don't the spokes get stuck in your teeth??

Fermentation | 11-20-2008 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JD4x4 (Post 1425224) Fermentation- 3rd post, 3rd pic .... Not sure what we're eatin' here but if it's guess #1... Aren't the hats/helmets hard to pass? .. and if its guess #2... Don't the spokes get stuck in your teeth??
Nope, don't eat people or bikes. I was just trying to give people a guess at the location.

Canadian-guerilla | 11-20-2008 01:46 AM
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Man Eating Bugs is more like a "coffee table" book than a how-to manual. This text is a tool to alter perceptions and increase awareness about the idea of eating insects as food
i bought this book earlier this year http://www.hollowtop.com/finl_html/insect_books.htm ******************************************** Quote:
Madsen and colleagues found that one person could collect an average of 200 pounds of the sun-dried grasshoppers per hour
http://www.hollowtop.com/finl_html/huntgathers.htm

Barebull | 11-20-2008 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1425698) Nope, don't eat people or bikes. I was just trying to give people a guess at the location.
Looks like Thailand, but could be Laos as well. Maybe near the Mekong River. And I've eaten the crickets too, but that was as far as I would go. They were alright.

Fermentation | 11-20-2008 01:53 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Definitely on the Mekong! You boys and girls are good.

Fermentation | 11-20-2008 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1422464) Pound for pound, grasshoppers are 3 times as nutritious than beef. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> GRASSHOPPERS, FRIED: For Campouts or at Home March 1998. Volume 11, Issue #1.<o:p></o:p> by Charles Griffith, M.S. Retired Clinical Psychologist; Private Consultant. <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place><st1:City>Ozark</st1:City>, <st1:State>Arkansas</st1:State><st1:PostalCode>72949</st1:PostalCode></st1:place>-8810<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Editor's note: The following was sent to us as a Letter to the Editor. We thought many of you would be interested in Mr. Griffith's insights and so are including his entire communication unedited. <o:p></o:p> Having been an edible wild plant enthusiast for years, my wife and I taught classes on the subject at both <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Yellowstone</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> where we worked for three summers in the mid-eighties and in <st1:State><st1:place>Colorado</st1:place></st1:State>. Our most recent classes (three successive summers) have been under the auspices of the Colorado Mountain College Rendezvous (a re-enactment of the trappers' rendezvous that were held in the <st1:place>Rocky Mountains</st1:place> between 1810 and ] 840). These events are held each summer in August, usually in one of the National Forests near <st1:place><st1:City>Fairplay</st1:City>, <st1:State>Colorado</st1:State></st1:place>, and sponsored by the Colorado Black Powder Association. <o:p></o:p> Often students want to know if one can survive on wild edible plants alone in an emergency situation. Since I have never attempted a survival experiment, I have not been able to definitively answer that question, but the more I think about the question the more inclined I am to believe that more protein and fat would need to be a part of a survival diet and thus plants alone would probably not be enough--especially in the Rocky Mountain west where even Euell Gibbons found meager pickings. Plants might sustain someone in the short run a few days or a week or two at most, but it seems that some harvest from the animal kingdom would eventually have to be a part of the survival diet mix unless lots of nuts were available (sorry about that, vegetarians). <o:p></o:p> In almost all of Gibbons' "wild parties" and survival outings, he included items from the "fauna" category such as fish, crayfish and other seafood, frog legs, game fowl, and some outright "varmints," such as an unlucky porcupine he found wandering out in the Colorado wilderness on one of his adventure trips. Although Gibbons never spoke much of hunting game, as such, he certainly seemed to have the knowledge and skill to quickly take advantage of a wandering member of the animal world. Although a porcupine is not a difficult animal to kill, he would probably have to have some knowledge of skinning and dressing the animal. <o:p></o:p> Recently, we found the recipe in a popular outdoor magazine from the early 1990s. It was a recipe for fried grasshoppers that was so good that we'd like to pass it along. It seems that grasshoppers are plentiful enough that in a pinch, they might be able to provide the protein portion of a survival diet, if a person can get over any "insect as a food" prejudice from which we, too, have been victim. We had been trying to work up to eating an insect for years. Finally, we gave in to grasshoppers. "Pretty good!" And they are certainly plentiful during a large part of the year and fairly easy to catch--another advantage. <o:p></o:p> First, catch a bunch of grasshoppers and leave them in a jar overnight to purge (if you're finicky). Then boil them for ten minutes, after which you can easily remove the large legs, and wings, too, if they are also large. <o:p></o:p> Next, in a bowl, beat one or more eggs, depending on how many grasshoppers you have, to which you add the little critters after removing the legs and wings. Then put the beaten-egg-covered "hoppers" in a paper sack or plastic bag which contains some yellow or white cornmeal and shake. Next, place the egg and cornmeal-covered grasshoppers one by-one into a small frying pan with an inch (2.54 cm) of hot cooking oil and fry until golden brown. After cooking, remove the hoppers from the skillet and place them on paper towels - to soak up any excess oil. Our family experimented by eating them plain, and dipped in mustard, catsup, horseradish, or honey. We could have tried lots of other dips, too, I suppose. We liked them best with honey; small wonder, we have heard that the "honey and locusts" that John, the Baptist, ate, was really a mis-translation of "honey and grasshoppers," Can anyone verify that? <o:p></o:p> Anyway, eating them fried and without any honey or catsup, etc., they tasted something like fried okra. We liked them well enough to have had them several times now. In a survival situation, we suppose one might want to just roast them on a rock next to a fire, unless you have some cookware and oil along. We would be delighted to see more articles or letters about abundant, easy to catch insects, or even more recipes for grasshoppers. We think that in writing "insects as food" articles, it is important to try to describe the taste of the various food items to help people get over their fear of the unknown. Please feel free to contact me: Charles Griffith; <st1:address><st1:Street>8514 Beulahland Drive</st1:Street>, <st1:City>Ozark</st1:City>, <st1:State>AR</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode>72949</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>-8810; phone: 479-667-9820. <o:p></o:p> Postscript: During this past decade, while the <st1:City><st1:place>Griffiths</st1:place></st1:City> were perfecting their fried grasshopper procedures, young son, Joshua was watching his parents. Now, as a 12 year old, Joshua (and his parents) find it quite usual for him and his friends to bring in a handful (or, perhaps, a hat-full) of grasshopper from the prairie where they live, for mom to fry for a tasty snack for them. Yes, many Euro-Americans, contemporaries of Joshua, are growing up with similar attitudes, grasshoppers mean "tasty snack!" <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> CHOCOLATE COVERED GRASSHOPPERS<o:p></o:p> by Kathy Gee and Julie Stephens<o:p></o:p> http://www.ent.iastate.edu/misc/insectsasfood/blox.html<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ingredients: baker's chocolate candied crickets Directions: Melt baker's chocolate in double boiler. Fill molds halfway with chocolate, add grasshoppers, fill rest of the way. <o:p></o:p> A tasty surprise in every one! <o:p></o:p> Insect preparation: To clean insects, place in a colander or fine mesh strainer, rinse and pat dry. Dry roast in a 300 degree oven until crispy. They can be ground into flour, cut into pieces or used whole. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> GRASSHOPPER FRITTERS from 'Ronald Taylor's "Butterflies in My Stomach"<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> 3/4 cup sifted flour 1 teaspoon baking powder 1 teaspoon salt 3/4 cup milk 1 egg slightly beaten 1 cup grasshoppers <o:p></o:p> 1. Sift flour, baking powder and salt together into a bowl. Slowly add milk and beat until smooth. Add egg and beat well. <o:p></o:p> 2. Pluck off grasshopper wings and legs, heads optional. <o:p></o:p> 3. Dip insects in egg batter and deep fry. Salt and serve.
Thanks for actually adding the recipes! Now the thread is complete! :36_3_12::36_3_12::36_1_32v::36_1_32v::36_1_32v:

Cassandra | 11-20-2008 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1425718) Thanks for actually adding the recipes! Now the thread is complete! :36_3_12::36_3_12::36_1_32v::36_1_32v::36_1_32v:
Great! Now go out and EAT A BUG! :biggrin:

Master_Ho | 11-20-2008 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1425718) Thanks for actually adding the recipes! Now the thread is complete! :36_3_12::36_3_12::36_1_32v::36_1_32v::36_1_32v:
COMPLETE????? COMPLETE????????????????? Good God, I have dozens more recipes and articles.......... All there people around here talk about WTSHTF and eating insects and grass - but NONE of them have really asked themselves........."if I had to eat grass and insects - how the hell would I cook them so I could eat them??" (Same thing with Spam, I can't stand the stuff, having been forced to eat it for years growing up in England BUT I have ONE Spam recipe - if I ever have nothing else to eat but Spam, I have ONE recipe that will get me thru that one meal).......so I have recipes for all sorts of animals and insects and worms and stuff I hope I never have to eat, I can. But no one else offered one recipe.........Julia Child is rolling over in her grave, I swear........... I am totally disppointed in the members of GIM...........all this talk of being prepared........especially pre-planning for food, how many of you have an antfarm handy for emergences?? Well, obviously, it was all hot air.........no real survivalists in here......... :sarcasm: Well, not the part about having the recipes and articles.............that part is true. *lol*

Fermentation | 11-20-2008 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1425727) COMPLETE????? COMPLETE????????????????? Good God, I have dozens more recipes and articles.......... All there people around here talk about WTSHTF and eating insects and grass - but NONE of them have really asked themselves........."if I had to eat grass and insects - how the hell would I cook them so I could eat them??" (Same thing with Spam, I can't stand the stuff, having been forced to eat it for years growing up in England BUT I have ONE Spam recipe - if I ever have nothing else to eat but Spam, I have ONE recipe that will get me thru that one meal).......so I have recipes for all sorts of animals and insects and worms and stuff I hope I never have to eat, I can. But no one else offered one recipe.........Julia Child is rolling over in her grave, I swear........... I am totally disppointed in the members of GIM...........all this talk of being prepared........especially pre-planning for food, how many of you have an antfarm handy for emergences?? Well, obviously, it was all hot air.........no real survivalists in here......... :sarcasm: Well, not the part about having the recipes and articles.............that part is true. *lol*
Well darn it, do your duty PATRIOT, and keep posting those recipes, let's make this here thread on par with the infamous picture thread. Maybe I'll get out to the market again and ask for details. You can throw in arachnid recipes too, if you like. Technically, the tarantulas are not insects, but who cars!

Master_Ho | 11-21-2008 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1425835) Well darn it, do your duty PATRIOT, and keep posting those recipes, let's make this here thread on par with the infamous picture thread. Maybe I'll get out to the market again and ask for details. You can throw in arachnid recipes too, if you like. Technically, the tarantulas are not insects, but who cars!
Well.........I am not going to post my entire file...........but maybe a recipe now and then.......... CHOCOLATE CHIRPIE CHIP COOKIES by Kathy Gee and Julie Stephens<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> 2 1/4 cup flour 1 tsp. baking soda 1 tsp. salt 1 cup butter, softened 3/4 cup brown sugar 1 tsp. vanilla 2 eggs 1 12 oz bag chocolate chips 1 cup chopped nuts 1/2 cup dry roasted crickets <o:p></o:p> Insect preparation: To clean insects, place in a colander or fine mesh strainer, rinse and pat dry. Dry roast in a 300 degree oven until crispy. They can be ground into flour, cut into pieces or used whole. <o:p></o:p> 1. Preheat oven to 375 degrees. In a small bowl, combine flour, baking soda and salt; set aside. <o:p></o:p> 2. In large bowl, combine butter, sugar, brown sugar and vanilla; beat until creamy. Beat in eggs. Gradually add flour mixture and insects, mix well. Stir in chocolate chips. <o:p></o:p> 3. Drop by rounded measuring teaspoonfuls onto ungreased cook sheet. <o:p></o:p> 4. Bake for 8-10 minutes. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> CHOCOLATE COVERED CRICKETS from Food Insects Newsletter <o:p></o:p> 2 squares of semisweet chocolate 25 dry-roasted crickets and/or grasshoppers with legs & wings removed. <o:p></o:p> 1. Insect preparation: To clean insects, place in a colander or fine mesh strainer, rinse and pat dry. Dry roast in a 300 degree oven until crispy. They can be ground into flour, cut into pieces or used whole. <o:p></o:p> 2. Melt chocolate as directed on the box. Dip insects in chocolate, place on wax paper and refrigerate.

Fermentation | 11-21-2008 02:52 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Far enough, but keep em coming! Love it

Master_Ho | 11-21-2008 10:02 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. FOR MOST PEOPLE, EATING BUGS IS ONLY NATURAL<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> By Sharon Guynup and Nicolas Ruggia National Geographic News <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:date Month="7" Day="15" Year="2004">July 15, 2004</st1:date> <o:p></o:p> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0715_040715_tvinsectfood.htm <o:p></o:p> If you think eating insects is gross, you may be in the cultural minority. Throughout history, people have relished insects as food. Today, many cultures still do. <o:p></o:p> Ten thousand years ago hunters and gatherers ate bugs to survive. They probably learned what was edible from observing what animals ate, according to Gene DeFoliart, a professor emeritus of entomology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. <o:p></o:p> "Eating insects certainly is an old tradition," he said. <o:p></o:p> The ancient Romans and Greeks dined on insects. Pliny, the first-century Roman scholar and author of Historia Naturalis, wrote that Roman aristocrats loved to eat beetle larvae reared on flour and wine. <o:p></o:p> Aristotle, the fourth-century Greek philosopher and scientist, described in his writings the ideal time to harvest cicadas: "The larva of the cicada on attaining full size in the ground becomes a nymph; then it tastes best, before the husk is broken. At first the males are better to eat, but after copulation the females, which are then full of white eggs." <o:p></o:p> The Old Testament encouraged Christians and Jews to consume locusts, beetles, and grasshoppers. <st1:City><st1:place>St. John</st1:place></st1:City> the Baptist is said to have survived on locusts and honey when he lived in the desert. <o:p></o:p> In the mid-19th century Maj. Howard Egan, a superintendent of the Pony Express in <st1:State><st1:place>Nevada</st1:place></st1:State>, observed a Paiute Indian hunt where the quarry was neither bison nor rabbit, but rather the wingless Mormon cricket. <o:p></o:p> Major Egan later described how the Paiute dug a series of large trenches, covered them with straw, then drove hordes of crickets into the excavated trap. The Indians set the straw on fire, burning the crickets alive. <o:p></o:p> Paiute women then gathered bushels of the charred bugs and brought them back to camp to make flour for bread an important seasonal source of protein. <o:p></o:p> Insect Cuisine <o:p></o:p> Many types of insects appear on menus today. Bugs remain a traditional food in many cultures across <st1:place>Africa</st1:place>, <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>, and <st1:place>Latin America</st1:place>, DeFoliart said. <o:p></o:p> In <st1:country-region><st1:place>Ghana</st1:place></st1:country-region> during the spring rains, winged termites are collected and fried, roasted, or made into bread. In <st1:country-region><st1:place>South Africa</st1:place></st1:country-region> the insects are eaten with cornmeal porridge. <o:p></o:p> In <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> beekeepers are considered virile, because they regularly eat larvae from their beehives. <o:p></o:p> Gourmands in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region> savor aquatic fly larvae saut饤 in sugar and soy sauce. De-winged dragonflies boiled in coconut milk with ginger and garlic are a delicacy in <st1:place>Bali</st1:place>.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Grubs are savored in <st1:country-region><st1:place>New Guinea</st1:place></st1:country-region> and aboriginal <st1:country-region><st1:place>Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>. In <st1:place>Latin America</st1:place> cicadas, fire-roasted tarantulas, and ants are p revalent in traditional dishes. One of the most famous culinary insects, the agave worm, is eaten on tortillas and placed in bottles of mezcal liquor in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region>. <o:p></o:p> Cultural Choices <o:p></o:p> But despite its long tradition and current favor among at least half of the world's peoples eating insects is still rare, not to mention taboo, in the <st1:country-region><st1:place>United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:place>Europe</st1:place>. <o:p></o:p> One reason, DeFoliart said, is that after <st1:place>Europe</st1:place> became agrarian, insects were seen as destroyers of crops rather than a source of food. <o:p></o:p> "We became invested in livestock, and bugs became the enemy," said David George Gordon, a biologist and the author of The Eat-a-Bug Cookbook. <o:p></o:p> Manfred Kroger, a professor emeritus of food science at <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Penn</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> in <st1:City><st1:place>University Park</st1:place></st1:City>, says what people choose to eat is conditioned by culture. <o:p></o:p> Many Westerners readily consume shrimp and lobster (which, like insects, are arthropods) along with pork and oysters foods other cultures reject as dirty. <o:p></o:p> "We have 200 to 300 staple foods that we pass down from generation to generation and trying new foods is always a touchy subject," Kroger said. <o:p></o:p> "Eco Protein" <o:p></o:p> Kroger is anything but a lone voice in the wilderness when he argues that there are many nutritional benefits to eating insects. <o:p></o:p> Hamburger, for example, is roughly 18 percent protein and 18 percent fat. Cooked grasshopper, meanwhile, contains up to 60 percent protein with just 6 percent fat. Moreover, like fish, insect fatty acids are unsaturated and thus healthier. <o:p></o:p> DeFoliart, the Wisconsin entomologist, says that not only are insects nutritious and delicious, they could be an environmentally friendly source of human protein requirements. <o:p></o:p> "In our preoccupation with cattle, we have denuded the planet of vegetation," DeFoliart said. "Insects are much more efficient in converting biomass to protein." <o:p></o:p> Insect farming is arguably much more efficient than cattle production. One hundred pounds (45 kilograms) of feed produces 10 pounds (4.5 kilograms) of beef, while the same amount of feed yields 45 pounds (20 kilograms) of cricket. <o:p></o:p> Noting the widespread use of pesticides in industrial agriculture, DeFoliart said, "People are poisoning the planet by ridding it of insects, rather than eating insects and keeping artificial chemicals off plants that we eat." MEALWORM RECIPES<o:p></o:p> http://www.hollowtop.com/finl_html/mealworms.htm<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> We suggest these starters to try out your new culinary raw material. The following recipe was developed by the Food Insects Newsletter Editor and taste-tested by undergraduate and graduate students at <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Montana</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> and various dinner guests at the Dunkel/Diggs home: <o:p></o:p> Hot Mealworm Appetizers<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ingredients: 5 ml (1 tsp.) cayenne 2.5 ml (1/2 tsp.) black pepper 85 ml (1/3 cup) mealworm larvae, slightly thawed 30 ml (2 Tbsp) butter or margarine <o:p></o:p> Place all ingredients together into a sauce pan. Saute, stirring constantly, until the mealworms are golden brown. Drain and serve. Or, these may be added to a hot bridge mix available in many grocery stores. Or, one may add them to 'Party Mix' made from cold cereal squares, pretzels and nuts. The combination made at home to which one could add the mealworms for extra nutrition, fiber, and interesting texture is as follows: Melt 1/4 cup margarine in roasting pan in preheated 250F oven. Stir in 5 tsp. Worcestershire sauce, l-l/4 tsp. seasoned salt, 1/4 tsp. garlic powder. Gradually add: cereals (2-2/3 cup corn squares, 2-2/3 cup rice squares, 2-2/3 cup wheat squares); I cup nuts and I cup pretzels. Stir to coat evenly. Bake I hour, stirring every 15 minutes. Spread on absorbent paper to cool. Store in airtight container. Makes 10 cups. <o:p></o:p> The following recipes are from: Entertaining with Insects: The Original Guide to Insect Cookery By Ronald L. Taylor and Barbara J. Carter. 1992. Salutek Publ. Co. <st1:City><st1:place>Yorba Linda</st1:place></st1:City>. 160 pages. <o:p></o:p> MEALWORM COOKIES<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ingredients: 550 ml (1-1/4 cups?) all-purpose flour 5 ml (1 tsp.) baking soda 5 ml (1 tsp.) salt 250 ml (1 cup) softened butter 175 ml (3/4 cup) white sugar 125 ml (1/2 cup) crumbled dried mealworms 175 ml (3/4 cup) firmly packed brown sugar 5 ml (1 tsp.) vanilla 2 eggs 360 grams (1-1/2 cups) chocolate chips <o:p></o:p> Place the cleaned and prepared insects on a cookie sheet and dry in the oven for 1 -2 hours at 100�C (200�F). Preheat oven to 190�C (375�F). In a bowl, mix the flour, baking soda and salt. In another bowl, cream butter, white sugar, brown sugar, and vanilla. Stir in eggs. Gradually add the flour mixture. Stir in chocolate chips and mealworms. Drop by teaspoonfuls onto a cookie sheet, and bake 8- 10 minutes. <o:p></o:p> MEALWORM CANAPES<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ingredients: 85 ml (1/3 cup) mealworm larvae, slightly thawed 2 garlic cloves, finely chopped 5 ml (1 tsp.) tomato paste 15 ml (1 Tbsp) olive oil 5 ml (1 tsp.) lemon juice 5 ml (1 tsp.) red wine vinegar plus: red wine vinegar, freshly ground pepper, loaf of French bread (baguette), finely chopped fresh parsley <o:p></o:p> With a mortar and pestle or in a blender, mash the mealworms, garlic and tomato paste into a puree. Stirring constantly (or with the blender running), add the oil, a few drops at a time. Add the lemon juice, wine vinegar and pepper. Cut the baguette into 1.5 cm slices. Under the broiler, toast one side of the bread slices, and spread the untoasted side with the mixture. Place the canapes on a baking sheet and bake at 200�C (400�F) for 10 minutes. Sprinkle with parsley. <o:p></o:p> SIU MAI<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Ingredients: 250 ml (1 cup) mealworms 4 water chestnuts 60 ml (4 Tbsp) green onions, sliced 125 ml (1/2 cup) bamboo shoots 1 egg 5 ml (1 tsp.) salt 23 ml (1 - I/2 Tbsp) soy sauce 30 ml (2 Tbsp) sherry 5 ml (1 tsp.) sugar 23 ml (1 1/2 tsp.) cornstarch 1 ml (1/4 tsp.) pepper plus: wonton wrappers, dipping sauce (see below), vegetable oil <o:p></o:p> Place mealworms in blender, and grind until paste-like. Chop water chestnuts and add mealworm paste, green onions, bamboo shoots, egg, salt, soy sauce, sherry, sugar, cornstarch and pepper. Mix well. Fill center of won ton wrapper with 30 ml (2 tsp.) of mixture. Fold won ton in shape of a triangle. Moisten finger tips, and seal edges. Fold creased corners backward and secure the ends with more water. (They should now be shaped as a bishop's cap.) Place in skillet containing oil heated to about 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Fry for about 5 minutes. Serve with Dipping Sauce. <o:p></o:p> Dipping Sauce: <o:p></o:p> 15 ml (1 tsp.) boiling water 15 ml (1 tsp.) mustard 15 ml (1 tsp.) vinegar 30 ml (2 tsp.) soy sauce Add boiling water to mustard and mix well. Add vinegar and soy sauce. Stir well.

Cassandra | 11-21-2008 10:37 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. So basically what this says to me is that I shouldn't freak out over a few mealworms in the flour? Now I'm not feeling so guilty that I haven't gotten around to packing stuff up with diatomaceous earth. Worms are bonus!

Master_Ho | 11-21-2008 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassandra (Post 1429315) So basically what this says to me is that I shouldn't freak out over a few mealworms in the flour? Now I'm not feeling so guilty that I haven't gotten around to packing stuff up with diatomaceous earth. Worms are bonus!
No - but seeing as you brought it up..............**s**................>> ARE BUGS A PART OF YOUR DIET?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> http://www.uky.edu/Agriculture/Entom...d/bugfood2.htm<o:p></o:p> Determine FDAL's for a few common foods (such as hot dogs, flour, noodles, etc., some examples are listed below). Convert these values into pounds per package bought in a grocery store, e. g. per 5 pound bag of flour, 12-ounce can, etc.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> PRODUCT = ACTION LEVEL <o:p></o:p> Apple butter = 5 insects per 100g Berries = 4 larvae per 500g OR 10 whole insects per 500g Ground paprika = 75 insect fragments per 25g Chocolate = 80 microscopic insect fragments per 100g Canned sweet corn = 2 3mm-length larvae, cast skins or fragments Cornmeal = 1 insect per 50g Canned mushrooms = 20 maggots per 100g Peanut butter = 60 fragments per 100g (136 per lb) Tomato paste, pizza, and other sauces = 30 eggs per 100g OR 2 maggots per 100g Wheat flour = 75 insect fragmnets per 50g <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Source: The Food Defect Action Levels: Current Levels for Natural or Unavoidable Defects for Human Use that Present No Health Hazard. Department of Health & Human Services 1989. <o:p></o:p> http://www.auduboninstitute.org/html/eatbugs.html

Fermentation | 11-22-2008 08:01 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. 3 Attachment(s) Had snails and Fried ants today. The ants were made with lemongrass and some other exotic herbs, sweet and delicious. Snails, well taste like snails! Also ate some flowers and etc. SHTF prep baby!

Fermentation | 11-23-2008 08:24 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Looking for the recipe for the fried ants! will let you know!

Fermentation | 11-24-2008 09:19 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. You can raise meal worms easily in your home, great source of protein. You can also raise crickets. Just a little food for thought.

reviver | 03-24-2009 12:26 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. LOL, this is a fascinating thread. Just had to resurrect it... Kinda makes me hungry... But even better, it is a fabulous survival tool... If you can adapt to an out of (our) box reality...

thrifty_bob | 03-24-2009 01:49 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Well, if nothing else, maybe threads like this will give people a reason to put some food aside, lest they have to read this thread someday...

Cassandra | 03-24-2009 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by reviver (Post 1642746) LOL, this is a fascinating thread. Just had to resurrect it... Kinda makes me hungry... But even better, it is a fabulous survival tool... If you can adapt to an out of (our) box reality...
LOL, yes I love this thread too. I think of it fondly whenever the confirmed carnivores here do battle with the vegetarians (all too often). Cracks me up to see those two vocal factions come to near cyber-blows over optimal health and nutrition, when there are others here planning to eat bugs just to survive. One of the things that makes this forum great. :smile:

reviver | 03-24-2009 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassandra (Post 1642867) LOL, yes I love this thread too. I think of it fondly whenever the confirmed carnivores here do battle with the vegetarians (all too often). Cracks me up to see those two vocal factions come to near cyber-blows over optimal health and nutrition, when there are others here planning to eat bugs just to survive. One of the things that makes this forum great. :smile:
I couldn't agree with you more. You will be amazed what what you will eat when you haven't had any (of what we consider) normal food for a few days. To survive is to adapt, in ways we have difficulty imagining now.

mick silver | 03-24-2009 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Codger (Post 1422460) OOOhhh, I don't suppose there was a guy standing in the background with an empty can of Raid? Perhaps the guy selling these bugs has a second job as an exterminator? Was your tongue numb after eating them?:biggrin:

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mick silver | 03-24-2009 05:46 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. HOW ABOUT SOME HORSE FLYS WITH BUTTER

MagpieFairy | 03-24-2009 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1421462) Ohhh come on guys! it Ain't so bad! Seriously!
I thought you were on an all raw diet. Deep fried bugs are about as far from raw as it gets.

MagpieFairy | 03-24-2009 06:53 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. I could get past the hurl factor if I was hungry enough. I eat plenty of things other people think are gross now, so no biggie. And truth be known, it would probably be easier for me to mass murder a bunch of grub worms than to kill and dress a bunny I raised. I've heard grubs are tasty.... anyone got a recipe for those?

scyth | 03-24-2009 09:16 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Before you eat 'em, you got to kill them......... This from a seminal article by Sir Archibald St. Denys, perhaps THE founding father of insect and arthropod big-game hunting. "When I have stepped out before the dawn on the African Veldt, or In the rainforests of the Amazon, or a desert coast of South Africa, Or even the plains of Utah, my first instinct was To develop a strategy for the hunt ahead. To wit: Insects and arthropods are marvelously quick in movement And masters of camoflage. Additionally, they are incredibly Sensitive to vibrations. So, my first challenge was to develop a bush kit of clothing to Meet these challenges. After much worry and experimentation I settled on the following: Very tightly spun wool clothing, from extremely lightweight To heavier weight, for its relative silence and resistance to thorns, Cactus, and biting insects when moving through Heavy bush. I prefer the Norfolk Jacket in general, but had my tailor Remove the sleeves of one of my Norfolk jackets to reduce it To the Norfolk Vest. Heresy, I know, but my Norfolk Vest has Served me well on four continents. As for boots, only a pure rubber Crepe soled Veldschoen style Half-boot will do. Merino socks made of the pick of the Longest fibre fleece, combined with the Crepe soles, reduce vibrations To a minimum. Additionally, I follow a strict physical regimen Of Running marathons and Pilates, and the French Provincial Diet, To keep myself at a trim 70 kilos for my height of 6' 4". A specialised Irish deerstalker's cap, with 150mm long brims and woven of Doublespun Donegal tweed, along with amber polarised contact lenses, Completes the kit. As for the weapon of choice, please refer to the following link: http://www.airgundepot.com/eaa-drozd.html As noted, you may set it to single shot or For pack insects and arthropods, for bursts up to six shots. I do not use the terribly inaccurate copper BB; Instead, I have found that BB's made of depleted uranium And plated with 24kt gold increase their flight by Appproximately 90fps, and gain, by 40%, both initial And terminal penetration effectivity in standardised Chitin Penetration Tests. Whether you are hunting The Giant Sumatran Waterbug, or the Amazonian Silverfish, Or the more commonplace Mormon Cricket, or, Rarest of all the Afghan Jumping Tarantula, I hope you will find My simple homilies useful." And again "Wingshooting dragonflies for wagers is more than a Pleasant way to spend an afternoon with fellow hunters. My estate in France has a wonderful pond, and it is my wont, at height of Summer Each year, to invite my friends for a week of dragonfly wingshooting. It puts both Partridge and Skeet to shame. Single shot only Is allowed, and the wagers can run upwards of a thousand quid For any given shot. And after the day, what can be more convivial with old friends Than an appetizer of blanched and toasted dragonfly tails With a glass of White Bordeaux?" scyth

Goldfinger007 | 03-24-2009 09:34 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. http://www.listicles.com/wp-content/upload/crabdog.jpg

Argentsum | 03-24-2009 11:59 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1227014212 I'm sure its all tasty and wholesome but... I look at this pic and all I can think is that somebody swept the back alley and sorted it all quite nicely indeed.

Fermentation | 03-25-2009 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MagpieFairy (Post 1643932) I thought you were on an all raw diet. Deep fried bugs are about as far from raw as it gets.
Great question, i am on a raw diet 100%. It's not always a 100% though, although I try.The one thing I always compromise on is a new weird interesting food, and my friends now this about me. lol! That's my one weakness. But you're right, I'm raw now. That doesn't mean I don't struggle from time to time or a have a cricket from time to time. lol! and hell who said I ate the cooked ones? Just kidding! Raw is the way to go in my opinion. But I have no problems with people incorporating insects, even the raw ones (no kidding here). Gorillas do it, our close cousins. Enough rambling.

Fermentation | 06-19-2009 12:29 PM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. time for a bump!!!!!!!

thorgrim | 06-22-2009 02:57 AM
Re: Eating Insects for survival - Recipes inside. Well where I live it is too cold so there are not that many bugs, which in some ways is a good thing. About the only bugs we have in abundance are grass hoppers sometimes and maybe some grubs if you were to look for them. Worms too I guess. I like the idea of feeding them to chickens or maybe fish if you have a pond or you could use them to catch fish. Teach a man to fish with worms and he doesn't have to eat worms. :biggrin: I would eat them if I had too but would rather not. Snails and snakes are ok though.

gunDriller | 06-23-2009 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortJohnSilver (Post 1422054) Well, maybe you could try (per "recipes") some of what John the Baptist ate: locusts and wild honey.
honey is good. the first time i ever ate earthworms, i used honey to help wash them down. i ate 2 that time. the second time i ate earthworms, it was no big deal. just washed them down with water. i ate 5 that time. i'm trying to follow a mathematical progression (2, 4, 8, 16), working my way up to a full quarter pound. haven't got sick yet. at least not physically. :coolbeer:

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