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mick silver | 11-26-2009 02:08 PM
100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy�target of thieves, invites marauders; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 14. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 15. Survival Guide Book. 16. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, ect. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 17. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 18. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 19. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 20. Vitamins 21. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 22. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 23. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 24. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 25. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 26. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 27. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many) 28. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 29. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 30. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 31. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 32. Coleman�s Pump Repair Kit 33. Tuna Fish (in oil) 34. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 35. First aid kits 36. Batteries (all sizes�buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 37. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 38. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 39. Flour, yeast & salt 40. Matches. (�Strike Anywhere� preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 41. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 42. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 43. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 44. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, �No. 76 Dietz� Lanterns 45. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 46. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 47. Men�s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 48. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 49. Fishing supplies/tools 50. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 51. Duct Tape 52. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 53. Candles 54. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 55. Backpacks, Duffle Bags 56. Garden tools & supplies 57. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 58. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 59. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 60. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 61. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 62. Bicycles�Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 63. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 64. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 65. Board Games, Cards, Dice 66. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 67. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 68. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 69. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 70. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc 71. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 72. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 73. Soysauce, vinegar, boullions/gravy/soupbase 74. Reading glasses 75. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 76. �Survival-in-a-Can� 77. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 78. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 79. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 80. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 81. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 82. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 83. Lumber (all types) 84. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 85. Cots & Inflatable mattresses 86. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 87. Lantern Hangers 88. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 89. Teas 90. Coffee 91. Cigarettes 92. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal etc) 93. Paraffin wax 94. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 95. Chewing gum/candies 96. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 97. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 98. Goats/chickens From a Sarajevo War Survivor: 1. Stockpiling helps, but you never know how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources. 2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden. 3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold�s. 4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it�s the easiest to do without (unless you�re in a very nice climate with no need for heat.) 5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to �warm�, not to cook. It�s cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk. 6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it�s great to have a lot of survival guides, but you�ll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you�ll have a lot of time on your hands. 7. The feeling that you�re human can fade pretty fast. I can�t tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else. 8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches. 9. More matches

Ash_Williams | 11-26-2009 02:56 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo I was thinking the other day while I cleaned my basement... Nails! How easy it is to stick two pieces of wood together, to board up a window, to build a ramp or small bridge, or even a storage shed, because you can just pound a nail with a hammer. And they're like $5 a box. So I bought another box of nails, because I can't imagine making them myself.

nickelless | 11-26-2009 09:28 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Here's another thread with the list at top: http://realcent.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~5918.asp

Glass | 11-26-2009 09:50 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo excellent list. thank you. I have some of a lot but not a lot of any.

S_Goldberg | 11-27-2009 01:25 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo This reads like a survivalist idea list and not an actual survivor's list. Since there is no original source provided, I am thinking some guy came up with the list and tried to add credibility by attaching some actual event to it.

Maddie | 11-28-2009 12:16 AM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Quote:
Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 2046831) This reads like a survivalist idea list and not an actual survivor's list. Since there is no original source provided, I am thinking some guy came up with the list and tried to add credibility by attaching some actual event to it.
I was thinking the same thing. Survival Guide book? I have friends who lived through that, and food is really about the only thing they ever talked about as being in very short supply. They do sometimes mention how hard it was for apartment dwellers who had to haul all of their water up flights of stairs and how fresh milk or eggs was heaven.

hypervel | 11-28-2009 12:22 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo "survival in a can" was in demand? I've seen this list before, many times. I doubt it has anything to do with Sarajevo. Not swiping at OP BTW. No hate. Propane cylinders before azzwipe? Whoever made this list....jeez. Gen is top of the list? Seriously? I mean, I've got one....but it's a bridge between uncivilized moments of power outage-not civil war.

BellevueBully | 11-28-2009 12:27 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo 38. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) ie, smaller dogs, barn cats, mice, chicken guts Purina.....I don't think so.

S_Goldberg | 11-28-2009 06:41 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie (Post 2047632) I was thinking the same thing. Survival Guide book? I have friends who lived through that, and food is really about the only thing they ever talked about as being in very short supply. They do sometimes mention how hard it was for apartment dwellers who had to haul all of their water up flights of stairs and how fresh milk or eggs was heaven.
Exactly. The list talks about marauders also. This definitely is a survivalist list and not based on experience.

Gold Rules | 11-28-2009 11:48 PM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Quote:
Originally Posted by BellevueBully (Post 2048112) 38. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) ie, smaller dogs, barn cats, mice, chicken guts Purina.....I don't think so.
Big dogs rule ( see my bodyguard ).........as for the others ........they are members of the food group

Bob | 11-29-2009 12:33 AM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Sounds to me like that list: the 100 things to disappear first (or something like that). The one that's posted here periodically (right along with the Russian professor's breakup of the US). Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddie (Post 2047632) I was thinking the same thing. Survival Guide book? I have friends who lived through that, and food is really about the only thing they ever talked about as being in very short supply. They do sometimes mention how hard it was for apartment dwellers who had to haul all of their water up flights of stairs and how fresh milk or eggs was heaven.

electric-amish | 11-29-2009 04:36 AM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Survival in a Can. I thought that was a saw. I'm not sure this list was a Seige list more of a general list. E-A

gypsybiker45 | 11-29-2009 08:30 AM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Quote:
Originally Posted by Gold Rules (Post 2048825) Big dogs rule ( see my bodyguard ).........as for the others ........they are members of the food group
your 100+ lb "status symbol" does you no more good than a mutt half his size and is usually a hi strung purebred. both dogs are stopped equally by a bullet. if SHTF one of the first things im doing is offing all the large loose breeds and those damnable Pit Bulls that everyone today seems to think is the perfect breed. both are too dangerous to be allowed free roam.

MNeagle | 11-29-2009 08:41 AM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo bigger target too

Gold Rules | 11-29-2009 09:04 AM
Re: 100 Items in greatest demand during the siege of Sarajevo Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsybiker45 (Post 2049106) your 100+ lb "status symbol" does you no more good than a mutt half his size and is usually a hi strung purebred. both dogs are stopped equally by a bullet. if SHTF one of the first things im doing is offing all the large loose breeds and those damnable Pit Bulls that everyone today seems to think is the perfect breed. both are too dangerous to be allowed free roam.
gypsybiker .........keeeeeeeep thinking that way ....while me & my dogs sled or cart on by you when TSHTF & you have no fuel ..........:RockOn: OBTW .......I dont allow my "status symbols" to free roam......:ok: I suggest you attend a Winter Carnival in your neck of the woods & take in a dog sled race or a weight pull compitation ya might learn something...:yes:.

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