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Wyldwil | 02-05-2007 10:30 PM
"Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview I find this article to be top-notch....enjoy.....:wavey: http://www.donrearic.com/streetreality.html

Antonio | 02-05-2007 11:44 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Don Rearic is great,I`ve read a lot of his stuff!

sam | 02-06-2007 03:12 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Didn't have time to read that whole article. Check out Paul Vunak's "street smart" videos, I bought some a long time ago. Although I never had to put 'em to the test, I think it's good stuff.......

citizenkane | 02-06-2007 03:22 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview very nice. thanks

Infidel | 02-06-2007 03:24 PM
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Large Sarge | 02-06-2007 03:31 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview best system I have ever found http://www.targetfocustraining.com/live_events.html

sindgefallen | 02-07-2007 01:57 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview I understand why people are shying away from calling hand to hand a martial art. I have beat the heck out of people who were extremely good martial artists and gotten my butt kicked by drunk bar fighters and men on steroids. I have watched professional Tai Kwon-Do fighters get big egos out of a win but cannot win in a regular hand to hand street fight and cannt understand why. Because fighting has no rules or point system. Destroy the enemy by disable/kill. I can't stand Marines who come out of a L.I.N.E.S. Course thinking that they are bad a** street fighting Marines but can't win a street fight. I like to teach a combination of LINES, BJJ, WRESTLING and old sentry removal moves with vital target points for my Hand to Hand lesson plan. It seems to me that martial arts must be molded into real world fighting if it is to be used effectively in a life or death struggle.

thorgrim | 02-08-2007 11:08 AM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Quote:
Originally Posted by sindgefallen (Post 502060) I like to teach a combination of LINES, BJJ, WRESTLING and old sentry removal moves with vital target points for my Hand to Hand lesson plan.
What is LINES? I would say that article by Don Rearic sums things up pretty good. There is a big difference between sport fighting and real fighting. Unfortunately many people with inflated egos do not realize this.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

thorgrim | 02-08-2007 11:47 AM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Infidel That third video is hilarious. :rofl:

Goldfinger | 02-08-2007 12:21 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview I've been exposed to several different styles and I can definitely say I've yet to see any perfect style. My main exposure has been BJJ, but I also trained with a few guys for MMA for a short while. There were guys with TKD, Muay Thai, Judo, Krav Maga, some sort of Kung FU, Boxing, Wrestling and of course BJJ backgrounds. Pretty much each had something to bring to the table, but each had weaknessess too. I agree with the author on a lot of points. I do think that a lot of the martial arts have been neutered to a degree. Some more than others. I even agree somewhat about how even MMA limits you a bit by rules. With that being said, its pretty hard to practice the more brutal/lethal strikes, pressure points, etc. I've visited some of these schools where the sensei/instructor makes claims about their styles lethal moves, and kinda knocks MMA, yet their training is choreographed and/or they're going 3/4 speed. I couldn't help but wonder what would happen if they actually got hit. One of the first things you learn when you train in MMA is that it sucks getting hit, particularly in the face. Most peole aren't going to be used to that and will often freeze/hesitate, lose their head (get mad or panic) and/or retreat, all of which can get your a$$ handed to you. Further, in like BJJ, we had pure self defence and rape classes, where biting, eye gouging, throat strikes, groin hits, etc were taught and highly encouraged. So in a lot of ways I don't think the MMA core styles are any more impractical than anything else. All the knowledge of pressure points and lethal strikes in the world won't do you much good if you eat the first punch and can't recover. Don't get me wrong, I think the pure combat styles are great and I'm actually looking in to some right now, but I think one of the best ways to learn how to fight is, well, to fight. Anyone that wants to be well rounded should probably cross train. If you don't know how to defend yourself on the ground, you certainly don't want to find yourself there with someone well schooled in BJJ, Sambo, etc. If you don't know what to do in a clinch, you certainly don't want to be introduced to the knees/elbows of a Muay Thai fighter. Or similarly, if you don't know how to defend against a takedown, a good wrestler or Judo student can bounce you off the ground before you even know the fight has started. That being said, i still feel like the most effective martial arts training I've ever done was with a couple hundred rounds and my Glock on the interactive range...

GoldWampum | 02-08-2007 12:42 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Great article, thanks.

Anty Ep | 02-08-2007 01:01 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Quote:
Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 500686) (Bas Rutten vids)
Bas Rutten vids are very worthwhile.

Anty Ep | 02-08-2007 01:07 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview I dont know if you guys are aware of this forum but an old correspondent of mine (Doublehook) directed me to it, and I share it with you in turn. There is tons of good reading along these lines at this website: http://www.bullshido.net/ I never posted there, just did a lot of reading, very funny and true stuff there from some seasoned "budoka" If you want be good at "hand to hand" or "budo" then you got to train, train long, train hard, and train with people who are good at their particular idiom. Forget about syncretism at first, dont try any syncretic styles like JKD or MMA until you are years into it. Better to find the best school you can, whether it is karate or judo or le box francaise, and just join it and train hard for several years before you even think of switching. There is only one thing that is age-related however, where time is of the essence: if you are in high school, join the wresting team. You will never get a chance like that again. You can always take karate or judo or whatever, but wrestling is a jr-high high school and college phenomenon. http://www.bullshido.net/ PS Far as I'm concerned, IDPA-IPSC-USPSCA is as much a "martial art" as anything else.

sindgefallen | 02-08-2007 04:34 PM
Re: "Street Reality"-Martial Arts Overview Goldfinger I completely agree. If you don't cross train then you will form bad habits. If you can't take a beating then you are finished. Go out and fight. Beat up your brother or something if you want to train. What they are teaching the soldiers today in MODERN ARMY COMBATIVES is a cross between, bjj, russian sombo and greco roman wrestling. It is effecetive but limited. It teaches a softer approach to fighting such as submission and clood chokes to unconsciousness(sorry if mispelled) instead of killing. That's where cross training and vitals come in handy. All in all it is a good basic system. It also smokes you good and you learn to take punches. I got the brand of 8 oz gloves my instructor was wearing tattood on underneath my chin. But street fights taught me the most. If it comes down to you or them then fight dirty and to the death or a chance at flight. As for LINES it is the Marine Corps old system of hand to hand before switching to something similar to the Army system but more effective since it Teaches weapons disarmament. (Something else I try sometimes to add to my lesson plan) iT Stands for Linear NEUROLOGICAL OVERRIDE ENGAGEMENT. It works on the principal of muscle memory through repitition of a series of take downs and strikes. Ok system but needs some descretion with cross training in mind. You can find a DVD on the basics at rangerjoes.com I think is the web address. Google it to be sure.

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