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RickW | 01-02-2007 04:20 PM
Old Timey Seeds where is the best place to get heirloom seeds?.......I think I am asking the right question.......where I have seeds year after year Thanks Rick

Infidel | 01-02-2007 04:36 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds http://goldismoney.info/forums/searc...archid=1254216

sam | 01-02-2007 04:57 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds RickW- Heard about these folks when they first started up. Have to admit I haven't bought seeds from them yet, but prolly will this season. SEEDSof CHANGE Edit: Honey just got home. She says she has been buying from SEEDSofCHANGE all along. She thinks they are a good outfit, worthy of supporting.

RickW | 01-02-2007 05:06 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds Thankyou Sam...I appreciate it

REV127 | 01-02-2007 05:15 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds I just bought the seed for this year's crops, with a little luck I won't have to rebuy any of it. It was kind of a big operation for me to figure out what I needed and where to get it from so here's some things to think about that I found helpful. 1) look in your refrigerator and at your dinner plate. Make a list of what you actually eat. 2) Choose the specific varieties from that list based on what grows well in your area. It helps to browse many seed catalogs to really see what the options are. I found several varieties that were developed in my state. 3) Be aware of potential cross-polination issues. Most things that have the same Latin name will cross polinate. You can minimize this by seperating your plantings by a great distance but I'm playing it safe by only growing one variety of a given vegetable at a time. 4) Try to have a number of crops that will grow at different times of the year so you don't have a glut in the spring and a famine in the fall. Here are links to some of the places I used. http://www.localharvest.org/store/seeds.jsp http://www.seedsavers.org http://www.rareseeds.com/

Tn...Andy | 01-02-2007 05:15 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds Also know as "open pollinated" seeds if you're looking in a catalog. Shamelessly stolen off another board compiled by a guy I know there....board name "aBRG2far", credit given..........ya'll are also weclome there as well ! Prep and general discussion board formed by former "squirrels"....still somewhat in it's infancy. http://minionreport.net/forum/index.php 2278 Baker Creek Road Mansfield, MO 65704 (417) 924-8917 http://www.rareseeds.com Catalog: Free online. Baker Creek has only been issuing catalogs for a few years, but the current one looks like they're well-seasoned in the world of heirlooms. Offering more than 500 non-hybrid vegetables, flowers, and herbs, this catalog is especially strong on hot-weather crops. It lists 27 different eggplants, five pages of tomatoes, plus ample numbers of old-time corn, squash, and melons. The other garden vegies are here, too, just in smaller numbers. Bountiful Gardens 18001 Shafer Ranch Road Willits, CA 95490 (707) 459-6410 http://www.bountifulgardens.org Catalog: Free online. Offers only open-pollinated varieties, including some newer varieties as well as a fair number of old-timers. Of these, only a few are identified as heirlooms, even though many others, including some fairly rare ones, are also heirlooms. Colonial Williamsburg: The Colonial Nursery Seed List The Colonial Nursery P. O. Box 1776 Williamsburg, VA 23187-1776 http://www.history.org/History/CWLand//nursery1.cfm Catalog: Seed list free online. Gardening was part and parcel of colonial life, and this remarkable museum displays everything from the aristocratic pleasure grounds for the governor to a work-a-day kitchen garden of vegetables and herbs, all carefully researched and authenticated. Their "Colonial Nursery" sells period-appropriate vegetable, flower, and herb seeds, plus bulbs, gardening accessories, and other goodies. Eastern Native Seed Conservancy P.O. Box 451 Great Barrington, Massachusetts 01230 (413) 229-8316 e-mail: natseeds@aol.com The non-profit Eastern Native Seed Conservancy has two lists of interest to heirloom gardeners. One is a Native Seed Listing that features very old Native American vegetables from the Seneca, Mohawk, Iroquois, and other tribes. It is appropriately strong on the "Three Sisters" of American agriculture--beans, corn, and squash. The other-- Diversity Seed Listings --features heirloom vegetables from New England and beyond. For many of these crops, they are the only source. While these crops are particularly well suited to New England gardens and areas with a similar climate, gardeners everywhere should check out what these good people are doing to preserve plants that could otherwise disappear. Eternal Seed 657 Pritchard Road Farrellton, Quebec J0X 1T0 Canada (819) 827-8881 e-mail: edecas@travel-net.com Catalog: free This young company has assembled a fine selection of heirlooms, including some nice short-season varieties and some that are very rare. Many are grown organically and packaged without pesticides. They also offer many old-fashioned flowers (including some choice vintage sweet peas) and a long list of herbs. BTW, I've never had any problems with customs or plant quarantines when I've ordered seeds from Canada. Filaree Farm 182 Conconully Highway Okanogan, WA 98840 (509) 422-6940 (Message only) http://www.filareefarm.com Catalog: Free online. This organic farm offers hundreds of garlics gathered from literally all over the world. Some are heirlooms. Heirloom Seed Project Landis Valley Museum 2451 Kissel Hill Road Lancaster, PA 17601 (717) 569-0401 http://landisvalleymuseum.org Catalog:$4, refundable with first order. The Landis Valley Museum is a living history museum with a farm that showcases Pennsylvania German rural heritage. Exhibits include gardens planted with crops that date from the early 1800s to 1940. They sell seed from these plants through their dandy catalog, which features more than 200 heirlooms grown at the farm. This link gives contact information, but you'll have to snail-mail for their catalog. It's worth the effort. Heirloom Tomatoes Heirloom Tomatoes 5423 Princess Drive Rosedale, MD 21237 http://www.heirloomtomatoes.net/ Catalog: Free online. Donna Meinschein is now shepherding Chuck Wyatt's astonishing collection of tomatoes, and carrying his tradition forward. As before, this website offers hundreds different heirloom tomatoes -- red, pink, orange, yellow, green, purple, and black tomatoes, big ones, little ones, short-season tomatoes, hot-weather tomatoes, and everything in-between. Best of all, Donna even has tomatoes that taste like real tomatoes. Heritage Farm 3076 North Winn Road Decorah, IA 52101 Catalog: Free (563) 382-5990 http://www.seedsavers.org/Home.asp Associated with the Seed Savers Exchange, Heritage Farm maintains an astounding 20,000 endangered vegetable varieties. To help finance that worthwhile effort, Heritage Farm sells seeds of heirloom vegetables, herbs, and flowers plus books and posters. Their collection of vegetables, which numbers more than 500 popular varieties, is particularly strong on heirloom tomatoes, beans, and peppers, but also has a nice selection of others. Heritage Harvest Seed Box 2177 Carman, MB, R0G 0J0 CANADA Print Catalog: $2.00 in U.S. Free in Canada. (204) 745-6489, FAX: (204) 745-6489 email: heritageharvestseed@hotmail.com Specializing in rare and endangered varieties, this start-up's catalog is chock-full of intriguing heirlooms. Some, such as 'Champion of England' peas, 'Boston Marrow' squash, and 'Tip-Top melon' are vegetable superstars of days-gone-by. Others, including 'Brandywine' tomatoes and 'Moon and Stars' watermelon are popular today. If those weren't quite enough, HHS offers Canadian originals, Native American vegetables, and short-season varieties. For many of them, HHS is the only commercial seed source. A laudable effort, especially since without niche seed companies like this one, many rare and choice heirlooms would simply cease to be. Irish Eyes - Garden City Seeds PO Box 307 Thorp, WA 98946 Catalog: Online. (509) 964-7000, Fax: (800) 964-9210 http://www.irish-eyes.com Irish Eyes, known for garlic and seed potatoes, and Garden City Seeds, known for short-season vegetable varieties for northern gardens, now offer more than ever. Their combined catalog offers hundreds of varieties, and features a category titled "heirloom varieties." It includes more than 125 varieties. A few of them seem fairly new. The 'Oregon Spring' tomato, for example, was released in 1984. (On the plus side, it's especially tasty and it performs well in the Pacific Northwest.) Such quibbles aside, this website is definitely worth a browse. Johnny's Selected Seeds 955 Benton Avenue Winslow, ME 04910 (207) 861-3900 Fax (US Only): 1-800-738-6314 E-mail: rstore@johnnyseeds.com http://www.johnnyseeds.com/ Catalog: Free online. While Johnny's specializes in short-season crops, it also offers a nice selection of heirlooms identified as such. To streamline the hunt for heirlooms, try using Johnny's search function using the keyword heirloom. Landreth Seed Company 180 West Ostend Street P.O. Box 6398 Baltimore, MD 21230 (800) 654-2407 Catalog: Free online. This historic company (founded 1784) offers an assortment of old and open-pollinated vegetables. This year, they added a page devoted entirely to the heirloom vegetables, many of which they have offered since these varieties were new. The 193 varieties listed here (with nifty vintage images) include many classics, and is worth a browse. Native Seeds/SEARCH 526 N. 4th Ave. Tucson, AZ 85705-8450 (520) 622-5561, Fax: (520) 622-5591 http://www.nativeseeds.org Catalog: Free online. Specializing in the traditional foods from the American Southwest and northern Mexico, this non-profit organization offers a wide variety of crops developed by the Hopi, Apache, Navajo, and other farmers throughout the region. This catalog is strong in the "Three Sisters" of American agriculture: beans, corn, and squash, but it also has chile peppers, tomatoes, melons, and lots of other goodies including tomatillos, teosinte, gourds, and traditional cotton. The descriptions here are short, but these plants tell the real story about biodiversity and the people who care enough to preserve them. Nichols Garden Nursery 1190 Old Salem Road NE Albany, OR 97321-4580 (800) 422-3985, Fax: (800) 231-5306 http://www.gardennursery.com/ Catalog: Free to US addresses. Others may incur a shipping fee. Offering an intriguing assortment of new and old plants, Nichols' catalog is always a treasure-trove. It has a good selection of heirloom vegetables, including some old-timers that have become popular again, and some odd-balls nobody else seems to have. Old Sturbridge Village Seed Store 1 Old Sturbridge Village Road Sturbridge, MA 01566 (508) 347-0270 (Gift Shop) http://www.osvgifts.org/ Catalog: Free online One of the premier living-history museums, Old Sturbridge Village has extensive period gardens. They also sell seeds, and the thirty or so heirloom vegetables in this flyer are classics. Plimoth Plantation Plimoth Plantation Museum Shops PO Box 1620 Plymouth, MA 02360 (800) 262-9356 x8332, Fax: (508) 747-0884 Garden like a Pilgrim, circa 1620. The seeds from the prestigious Plimoth Plantation museum are all the real deal -- Cornfield Beans, old pumpkins, Indian corn and others that the Pilgrims grew. Plimoth also has an interesting collection of herbs and other useful plants of the time, plus seeds of the native plants the Pilgrims encountered. R. H. Shumway's Catalog Fullfillment Center 334 W. Stroud ST Randolph,WI 53956-1274 (800) 342-9461. Fax: (888) 437-2733 email: info@rhshumway.com Catalog: Free online. Under a vintage banner "Good Seed Cheap," Shumway's catalog is illustrated with old woodcuts and color images from Victorian catalogs. The thing is, the "heirloom look" of their catalog is nothing new. This seed company has been around for more than 100 years, and their catalog looks like it did decades ago. Could it be that they never changed? In any case, styles have finally caught up with them. Some of the vegetable varieties Shumway sells have been around a long time too. Many of them are now heirlooms, although the catalog does not always identify them as such. Ronniger's Potato Farm Star Route, Moyie Springs, ID 83845 Catalog: Online. (208) 267-7938 http://www.ronnigers.com/ Ronniger's Potato Farm has long been known for its amazing collection of interesting potato varieties, including a number of rare spuds. Many are new or relatively so, but they've also got a fine selection of heirlooms. Many of the old-timers here had faded to obscurity, but Ronnigers brought them back and now offers them virus-free thanks to the high-tech world of meristem tissue culture. Certified organic. Sand Hill Preservation Center 1878 230th Street Calamus, IA 52729 http://www.sandhillpreservation.com/ Catalog: Free online. What they're preserving at this small Iowa business is rare poultry breeds and a fine collection of heirloom vegetables. They sell seeds of about 350 different tomatoes including red, orange, white, yellow, purple, green, paste, winter-keepers, and who knows what else. They also offer more than 50 different sweet potatoes. In addition to these in-depth collections, they also have nice selections of corn, melons, peppers, squash, and other hot weather crops for sale. The catalog lists a smaller (but still interesting) selection of other open-pollinated vegies. Seeds of Change P.O. Box 15700 Santa Fe, NM 87506-5700 (888) 762-7333, Fax: (888) 329-4762 http://www.seedsofchange.com/ Catalog: Free online. Lots and lots of heirlooms, grown organically. Seeds West Garden Seeds 317 14th Street NW Albuquerque, NM 87104 (505) 843-9713 http://www.seedswestgardenseeds.com Catalog: Free online. Specializing in open-pollinated vegetables and native plants for short-season gardens, Seeds West offers both old-time and newer varieties, including several from Europe. Those that are OP are noted, as are those that are heat- and drought-tolerant. Skyfire Garden Seeds 1313 23rd Road Kanopolis, KS 67454 no phone email: seedsaver@myvine.com Catalog: Free online. Operated by a long-time member of the Seed Savers Exchange and organic grower, Skyfire specializes in heirloom and open-pollinated vegetables and easy flowers. The catalog offers a wide assortment of all the different vegetables, plus several intriguing in-depth collections. For example, the catalog lists more than 100 different tomatoes, more than two dozen different carrots, about that same number of peppers, and more than a dozen different summer squash. There are some real treasures here, including some hot-weather varieties and others that are rarely sold in the seed trade. What's more, the seeds are priced at only $1.50 per packet. New to this list, and a worthy addition. South Carolina Foundation Seed Association 1162 Cherry Road Box 349952 Clemson, SC 29634 (864)656-2520 http://virtual.clemson.edu/groups/seed/newpage21.htm Perhaps the most interesting source of pass-along and handed-down heirlooms from Georgia and the old South, this foundation offers beans, butterbeans, corn, peanuts, squash, pumpkins, and others adapted to hot summers. Each of these varieties has a rich history, including some traditional Native American and African-American varieties. Dr. David Bradshaw, a professor at Clemson University, originally collected these varieties and kept them going. Now, the Foundation has made it possible for gardeners everywhere to grow treasures such as the plumgranny, healing squash, cornfield beans, multi-colored beans, and many, many more. A very cool list. Southern Exposure Seed Exchange P.O. Box 460 Mineral, VA 23117 (540) 894-9480, Fax: (540) 894-9481 Catalog: Free online. http://www.southernexposure.com/ Offering more than 500 varieties of heirloom vegetables, herbs, flowers, and other seeds, Southern Exposure has an impressive assortment of heirloom tomatoes, plus many other choice varieties. The catalog includes lots of historical information. Southern Oregon Organics P.O. Box 527 Williams, OR 97544 (888)709-7333 email: organic@organicseed.com Catalog: Free online. Another of the regional, organic seed companies, Southern Oregon Organics offers a highly browse-able list of heirlooms and open-pollinated vegetables, including some hard-to-find varieties. In addition, they also offer some heirlooms-in-the-making -- new open-pollinated varieties with some unusual traits (e.g. corn that sprouts in cold, wet soil; extra-red romaine). While the catalog identifies some heirlooms, there are plenty of others listed here. Sow Organic Seeds P.O. Box 527 Williams, OR 97544 (888) 709-SEED(7333) Catalog: Free online http://www.ORGANICSEED.com/ This online catalog offers certified organic seeds for more than 100 vegetables, plus flowers and herbs. They identify about half the vegetables as heirlooms, but they actually have even more oldies-but-goodies mixed in among the newer varieties. The Thomas Jefferson Center for Historic Plants Monticello PO Box 316 Charlottesville, VA 22902 Orders: (800) 243-1743. Customer service: (800) 243-0743 http://store.yahoo.com/monticellosto...eds-seeds.html Catalog: Free from web site. Like his home, Jefferson's beloved gardens have been carefully restored and planted with the vegetables, herbs, and flowers he knew. Their 32-page catalog (illustrated with vintage woodcuts) is chock-full of history and lists an impressive collection of heirlooms. Vermont Bean Seed Company 334 West Stroud Street Randolph, WI 53956-1274 (800) 349-1071. Fax (888) 500-7333 email info@vermontbean.com In addition to a huge assortment of vintage beans, this seed company offers a good selection of other vegetables. Some are heirlooms, but not all of them are labeled as such. The Victory Seed Company P.O. Box 192 Molalla, Oregon 97038 (503) 829-3126 http://victoryseeds.com/ Catalog: free online or $2.00 (refundable with order) for print version email: info@victoryseeds.com Along with some nice information about World War II Victory Gardens accompanied by original posters and pamphlets, this family seed company offers a good-sized assortment of heirloom and more recent vegetables, flowers, and herbs. __________________

RickW | 01-02-2007 05:27 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds Thankyou Rev and Andy.....I will get them all bookmarked for reading and saving

Sturdly | 01-02-2007 06:59 PM
Re: Old Timey Seeds Try http://www.heirloomseeds.com. I've had good luck with their stuff.

Unclad Lad | 01-08-2007 12:43 AM
Re: Old Timey Seeds I received the Bountiful Gardens catalog in the mail last week. In addition to selling seed, they're big advocates for (and active researchers of) Biointensive Growing, a deep-digging system. It has great potential for a homesteader or even a city-dweller with limited space. It goes way past just seeds. You're like to find similar systems in other catalogs.

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