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Agamemnon | 06-14-2009 11:12 AM
Bug Out Transmitter Quansheng VHF Radio Here's a tiny, compact VHF transceiver that should fit any bug out bag. 137 to 174 Mhz Tx/Rx uninterrupted. Programs from keypad up to 99 channels. Repeater capable CTCSS. 1 watt / 5 watt output. Its a great HAM radio, a business band radio, operates on MURS channels and fills in as a police scanner if you don't load up too many channels. You don't need to be a HAM operator to own one, just stay off the 2 meter band. I use mine with my base or mobile MURS radios. Under $100 on ebay, shipped from manufactor. http://www.usa-battery.com/images/Quanshengradio.jpg

electric-amish | 06-14-2009 12:59 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter What kind of distance can thoses opperate at? In Cities or in the Country what would the range be? E-A

Agamemnon | 06-14-2009 02:54 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter VHF is the best band for rural comms. Pending on location and terrain. Pending on what your transmitting to. HT to HT is most limited, HT to Mobile is better, HT to a good base station is best because of antenna and power. In a SHTF situation I'd climb the tallest location and transmit from there. My mobile to base has about 10 mile range, my base to HT is good for about 2 miles but its all about location. At my uncles place (bluff over river valley) I can get almost 7 miles to my mobile on this little radio.

Glass | 06-14-2009 08:10 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter yea these are pretty good radios for the price. I have 2 of them, 70cm and a 2m band one. The 70cm VHF has slightly better range. The build is pretty solid. Easy to program up. Work well on repeaters. Sound good. Haven't found anything wrong with them. I have the tg-45AT and the tg-25AT(?) I put a dual band antenna on my vehicle. I then just plug one of these in while I am driving around. Works well.

Abouthadit | 06-14-2009 08:56 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 1769513) VHF is the best band for rural comms. Pending on location and terrain. Pending on what your transmitting to. HT to HT is most limited, HT to Mobile is better, HT to a good base station is best because of antenna and power. In a SHTF situation I'd climb the tallest location and transmit from there. My mobile to base has about 10 mile range, my base to HT is good for about 2 miles but its all about location. At my uncles place (bluff over river valley) I can get almost 7 miles to my mobile on this little radio.
HT?...............

StrawMan=Corporation | 06-14-2009 09:06 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Radio nut slang for Handi Talkie. Quote:
Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1769950) HT?...............

ImaCannin | 06-14-2009 10:10 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Do these radio's have any kind of tracking ping, like cell phones?

mick silver | 06-14-2009 10:42 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 1770033) Do these radio's have any kind of tracking ping, like cell phones?
none that i know of , we used them for trip ar fishing an hunting . if there more then 3 mor 4 trucks were in on fishing trips we all have one an if one of us has a break down are some thing we all can help or stop an wait . plus it nice if your deer hunting

Unclad Lad | 06-16-2009 02:08 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Is there a model number?

Agamemnon | 06-16-2009 06:46 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1771871) Is there a model number?
I think its the TG-45AT I need to look at the box but I'm pretty sure that's it. Takes a lot of discipline to use one of these radios .... don't jack with the local cops ... :bear_rolleyes:

Golddust | 06-16-2009 06:54 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 1773028) I think its the TG-45AT I need to look at the box but I'm pretty sure that's it. Takes a lot of discipline to use one of these radios .... don't jack with the local cops ... :bear_rolleyes:
True.. Most police radios operate with tone squelch.. If you use one of these radios ,To monitor the police, Set you offset transmit frequency up or down as far as you can ...or out side of local use freqs.for that channel. Also make sure the offset freq is clear,and no one is using it. Just saying...

Goldhedge | 06-16-2009 07:07 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Here's one http://www.radio-factory.com/quanshe...io-p-2589.html Quansheng TG-46AT VHF Monitor and scan function radio They also make a dual band. What's the difference between VHF and UHF for transmission? From: Fast Radios www.FastRadios.com Radio�Waves�and�Frequency� � The�AM/FM�radio�in�your�car�or�at�home�is�a�one�way�radio .�These�radios�can�only� receive�a�signal.�You�can�listen�to�your�AM/FM�radio�but�you�can’t�talk�back�to�the�radio� station.�Two‐way�radios�let�you�listen�and�talk.� � Radio�waves�are�created�by�some�vibrating�or�“osci llating”�mechanism�inside�a�radio.� Years�ago�radios�used�crystals�as�oscillating�mech anisms.�An�oscillating�mechanism�is� basically�an�electrical�switch�that�turns�on�and�t urns�off�at�a�specific�rate.�The�rate�at� which�the�switch�turns�on�and�off�is�its�“frequenc y.”�When�a�switch�is�turned�on�and� turned�off�at�a�very�rapid�rate�electromagnetic�fi elds�are�created�that�we�call�radio� waves.�The�specific�frequency�at�which�the�switch� is�turned�on�and�off�creates�a�radio� wave�of�a�specific�size.���� � Each�channel�on�a�radio�(this�could�be�a�popular�r adio�station�or�a�land�mobile�two�way� radio)�is�broadcast�on�a�specific�frequency.�A�pop 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antenna�size�tend�to�travel�further�and�provide�mo re�coverage�in�terms�of�distance�than� UHF�radios.�� � The�UHF�radio�band�for�commercial�radios�is�betwee n�400�–�512�MHz.�The�biggest� advantage�to�using�UHF�is�penetration.�UHF�radios� with�comparable�power�and�antenna� size�tend�to�reach�further�inside�buildings,�throu gh�solid�obstacles�and�heavy�forests� than�VHF�radios.����� � UHF�radios�are�usually�the�best�choice�because�the �signal�that�is�produced�has�better� ability�to�travel�around�and�through�objects�like� trees�and�buildings.�People�use�VHF� radios�when�they�are�going�to�be�used�in�an�airpla ne,�on�a�boat,�or�outside�where�there� is�little�between�the�sender�and�the�receiver.�Und er�these�conditions�VHF�travels�further� than�UHF.� � Each�specific�frequency�produces�a�radio�wave�of�a �specific�length.�Lower�frequencies� produce�longer�radio�waves.�For�example,�a�VHF�rad io�frequency�of�150.00�MHz�will� produce�a�radio�wave�about�7�feet�long.�A�UHF�radi o�frequency�of�450.00�MHz�will� produce�a�radio�wave�about�2�feet�long.�Visualize� trying�to�push�a�7�foot�long�pole�into� an�area�with�a�lot�of�obstructions.�Now�visualize� pushing�a�2�feet�long�pole�into�the� same�area.�Can�you�see�why�VHF�radio�waves�tend�no t�to�penetrate?� � The�second�factor�in�broadcasting�is�the�power�of� the�signal�measured�in�“watts.”�A� commercial�radio�station�might�broadcast�at�5000,� 10000�or�50000�watts.�The�more� wattage�or�power�the�further�the�signal�will�trave l.�Hand�held�two‐way�radios�usually� broadcast�at�1‐5�watts.�Mobile�radios,�the�kind�yo u�might�find�in�a�fleet�of�delivery� trucks,�broadcast�at�5�‐�100�watts.� � Some�radio�manufacturers�rate�the�wattage�on�their �radios�in�“peak�wattage.”�Peak� wattage�is�the�maximum�wattage�the�radio�can�attai n�but�not�necessarily�the�radio’s� actual�operating�wattage.�A�radio�that�operates�at �a�constant�1�watt�can�outperform�a� radio�that�boasts�a�5�watt�peak�power.�Special�mea suring�equipment�is�needed�to�learn� if�a�radio’s�specifications�are�based�on�peak�or�c onstant�power.�A�reputable�radio� manufacturer�or�dealer�can�give�you�this�informati on.� � The�third�factor�in�broadcasting�is�those�things�t hat�might�block�a�radio�signal.�If�a�radio� signal�is�blocked�by�buildings,�walls,�trees�or�mo untains�the�signal�won’t�reach�the� receiving�radio.�To�solve�this�problem�commercial� radio�stations�broadcast�from�towers.� This�way�the�signal�is�beamed�out�and�down�to�peop le�wanting�to�listen�to�the�station.�It� doesn’t�take�much�power�if�a�receiving�radio�doesn ’t�have�anything�between�it�and�the� sending�radio�tower�or�antenna.�For�example�the�ra dios�that�the�astronauts�used�on�the� moon�to�talk�to�earth�were�able�to�successfully�co mmunicate�with�less�than�1�watt� because�there�is�nothing�between�the�moon�and�eart h�to�block�the�signal.� � We�are�not�on�the�moon�and�we�can�expect�much�less �coverage�from�our�two�way� radios.�A�general�rule�is�to�expect�a�1�watt�radio �on�flat�land�to�provide�about�1�mile�of� coverage.�Doubling�the�power�increases�the�range�b y�1/3.�A�2�watt�radio�on�flat�land� talks�about�1.3�miles.�You�can�improve�range�by�in creasing�antenna�height.�The�higher� the�antenna�the�further�you�can�talk.�For�example, �a�1�watt�radio�might�talk�10�miles�to� an�unobstructed�mountain�top.�

Unclad Lad | 06-17-2009 01:19 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Goldhedge, I couldn't find that article on the FastRadio site. Where is it?

CajunCoin | 06-18-2009 11:43 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 1770033) Do these radio's have any kind of tracking ping, like cell phones?
Some do have some GPS features however in the radio but those are extra features in the Amateur Radios. Tracking a radio by doppler is easy enough and every cell tower can be configured in an emergency to have its doppler system act on any frequency as a tracking device. Cajuncoin, Ham Radio Operator SEE OTHER THREAD: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=334256

CajunCoin | 06-19-2009 12:05 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldhedge (Post 1773064) Here's one http://www.radio-factory.com/quanshe...io-p-2589.html Quansheng TG-46AT VHF Monitor and scan function radio They also make a dual band.
These radios (Quansheng) :36_1_30: are not approved for use or sale in the USA, are widebanded and transmit 136 to 173MHZ. Since they are not FCC/IC approved their use/sale in North America is questionable. Hams can import 2 radios for experimentation but having such a wideband radio can lead to problems if somebody complains.

CajunCoin | 06-19-2009 12:27 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 1773028) I think its the TG-45AT I need to look at the box but I'm pretty sure that's it. Takes a lot of discipline to use one of these radios .... don't jack with the local cops ... :bear_rolleyes:
Agamemnon, these radios are not legal in the USA and their possession is questionable since they are so widebanded for the VHF and UHF band, not recommended for the noobs to have these things, sooner or later, they do go where ordinary men fear to tread. CAVEAT: These radios are sometimes sold in flea markets, etc., backyard vendors and the like. Their importation is a grey area, the FCC says they are not approved for use in the USA, however hams can import radios for their use (NOT FOR SALE) and the ham is solely responsable for his or her emissions and how they conform to Part 97. Use outside of the HAM BANDS 144-148 &430-450 is basically in violation of Parts 95, 97, 80, & 90 since the radio is not type approved.

CajunCoin | 06-19-2009 12:38 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1769892) yea these are pretty good radios for the price. I have 2 of them, 70cm and a 2m band one. The 70cm VHF has slightly better range. The build is pretty solid. Easy to program up. Work well on repeaters. Sound good. Haven't found anything wrong with them. I have the tg-45AT and the tg-25AT(?) I put a dual band antenna on my vehicle. I then just plug one of these in while I am driving around. Works well.
Glass, What is the rule in OZ about these radios?, you guys are given a lot leeway compared to the USA about these things. Cajuncoin

StrawMan=Corporation | 06-19-2009 12:48 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Thanks for that. LOL that makes me want to go out and buy a few of them even more. Kenwood makes a good multi band radio also as does Yaesu as well from memory Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunCoin (Post 1777186) These radios (Quansheng) :36_1_30: are not approved for use or sale in the USA, are widebanded and transmit 136 to 173MHZ. Since they are not FCC/IC approved their use/sale in North America is questionable. Hams can import 2 radios for experimentation but having such a wideband radio can lead to problems if somebody complains.

Agamemnon | 06-19-2009 07:09 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunCoin (Post 1777213) Agamemnon, these radios are not legal in the USA and their possession is questionable since they are so widebanded for the VHF and UHF band, not recommended for the noobs to have these things, ...
Yeah, I know .... I recommend everyone buy at least two. .

CajunCoin | 06-19-2009 11:51 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 1777496) Yeah, I know .... I recommend everyone buy at least two. .
Got a couple a while back, they are knock-off ICOMS, but the FM had a little distortion, not bad for $60 radio. The reason I try to install a little radio discipline here is that if you have any problems with "illegal" radios like transmitting on the Police Band or blocking up an industrial repeater, then the outcome "IF CAUGHT" will not be good. Here in S. Louisiana, some noobs got some Yeasu Radios, done the MARS MOD and widebanded them then went looking for a quiet frequency to chat on. They installed them on every Shrimp Boat and in the houses to talk and with the proliferation of Oil Companies, pipeline and refineries, somebody got on somebody elses Business and Industrial Frequency and blocked something up. The Oil industry (other commercial users as well) use radio for telemetry and control as well as voice in the VHF spectrum and therein lies the rub, the FM voice would override the telemetry and control system causing a packet crash setting the Watchdog loose causing a plant shutdown or device shutdown. SHUTDOWNS are VERY EXPENSIVE TO SAY THE LEAST, HARD TO GET IN THE WAY OF A MILLION DOLLAR OPERATION so something had to give, the hams in the area had already run the unlicensed noobs off the repeaters and ham freqs but when BIGGGGG $$$$ OIL is pissed, they call out the heavy machinery. They (some communication companies) put up some doppler reception stations in the area and started monitoring the bands for the offenders by using; http://www.dopsys.com/ser5900.htm Which once the ring leaders were identified, the FCC got involved and the offenders got a visit, either from an FCC, USCG or Marshalls Office about the radio. A few wannabe tough guys said what they would do to the FCC man if they caught him (Fishermen makeout like wise guys) but in the end, radios were removed from Shrimp and Fishing Boats, base stations were dismantled and some even got Ham Licenses to use the stuff on 2 meters to call home. One wiseguy in the neighborhood who would make fun of my "HAMMIE STUFF" was calling the house from his lawyer's office to see what can be done about this "FCC Letter" because the Lawyer knew I was a HAM RADIO OP and Louisiana Paralegal, the basic line was to cease and desist immediately and cooperate with all future inquiries, I was stuck to explain that once the FCC had these facts, the location and monitoring tapes, it was deer in the headlight time. The lawyer advised his client to comply, and the lawyer had his client deliver the radios to my house with me giving him a reciept for them (Donated to Civil Defense) as a Licensed Ham radio Op who could take possession and use without further questions. The sheriff's office ended up with some primo stuff and we were ready when KATRINA hit town!!!! 2 Meter radios everywhere!!! Bottom Line, $11,000 a day fine, max, $88,000 for illegal use however prosecution of Comm Act of 1934 is considered a Felony if you want to know. And yes a felony says bye-bye to your preps.

Goldhedge | 06-19-2009 11:55 AM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1773644) Goldhedge, I couldn't find that article on the FastRadio site. Where is it?
When you go to the site, the 'guy' talking says "If you'd like a free radio guide...click on the green button..." That, would be it....

Iptuous | 06-19-2009 12:23 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Ok. so i'm new to the radio stuff. got myself the tech ticket and just bought a yaesu vx7r. (not recieved it yet) this thread brings up an interesting topic... what are the bands that HAMs are not allowed to transmit on (official use only), but might be interesting to monitor? do some of them require specific hardware, like the military radio stuff? links to good info?

Golddust | 06-19-2009 01:53 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Hams can use any frequency in emergency's If there is danger to life and limb or property. In those times hams can go on the public safety frequency's and call for help. The public service frequency's are to many to list here, but are good to monitor ,The freq's used , vary to the state and region you are in. If a member of MARS, Hams can use Military MARS frequency's (Iptuous You are going to like that vx-7r) In normal times: Hams can use these frequency's and bands for normal use. Other than 60 meters their are no channels. we can use all the frequencys between the ( Number-Number) listed 160 Meters (1.8-2.0 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>1.800 - 2.000</td><td>CW</td></tr> <tr><td>1.800 - 1.810</td><td>Digital Modes</td></tr> <tr><td>1.810</td><td>CW QRP</td></tr> <tr><td>1.843-2.000</td><td>SSB, SSTV and other wideband modes</td></tr> <tr><td>1.910</td><td>SSB QRP</td></tr> <tr><td>1.995 - 2.000</td><td>Experimental</td></tr> <tr><td>1.999 - 2.000</td><td>Beacons</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 80 Meters (3.5-4.0 MHz): <table width="294" border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" height="156"> <tbody><tr><td>3.590</td><td>RTTY/Data DX</td></tr> <tr><td>3.570-3.600</td><td>RTTY/Data</td></tr> <tr><td>3.790-3.800</td><td>DX window</td></tr> <tr><td>3.845</td><td>SSTV</td></tr> <tr><td>3.885</td><td>AM calling frequency</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 60 Meters: Five Specific Channels The FCC has granted hams secondary access on USB only to five discrete 2.8-kHz-wide channels. Amateurs can not cause inference to and must accept interference from the Primary Government users. The NTIA says that hams planning to operate on 60 meters "must assure that their signal is transmitted on the channel center frequency." This means that amateurs should set their carrier frequency 1.5 kHz lower than the channel center frequency. General, Advanced and Amateur Extra classes: <table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"> Channel Center </td> <td valign="top"> Amateur Tuning Frequency </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> 5332 kHz </td> <td valign="top"> 5330.5 kHz </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> 5348 kHz </td> <td valign="top"> 5346.5 kHz </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> 5368 kHz </td> <td valign="top"> 5366.5 kHz </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> 5373 kHz </td> <td valign="top"> 5371.5 kHz </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> 5405 kHz (common US/UK) </td> <td valign="top"> 5403.5 kHz </td> </tr> </tbody></table> Amateurs may use USB *only* with a maximum effective radiated power (ERP) of 50 W. Radiated power must not exceed the equivalent of 50 W PEP transmitter output power into an antenna with a gain of 0 dBd. For details, see the 60 Meter FAQ page. 40 Meters (7.0-7.3 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>7.040</td><td>RTTY/Data DX</td></tr> <tr><td>7.080-7.125</td><td>RTTY/Data</td></tr> <tr><td>7.171</td><td>SSTV</td></tr> <tr><td>7.290</td><td>AM calling frequency</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 30 Meters (10.1-10.15 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>10.130-10.140</td><td>RTTY</td></tr> <tr><td>10.140-10.150</td><td>Packet</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 20 Meters (14.0-14.35 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>14.070-14.095</td><td>RTTY</td></tr> <tr><td>14.095-14.0995</td><td>Packet</td></tr> <tr><td>14.100</td><td>NCDXF Beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>14.1005-14.112</td><td>Packet</td></tr> <tr><td>14.230</td><td>SSTV</td></tr> <tr><td>14.286</td><td>AM calling frequency</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 17 Meters (18.068-18.168 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>18.100-18.105</td><td>RTTY</td></tr> <tr><td>18.105-18.110</td><td>Packet</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 15 Meters (21.0-21.45 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>21.070-21.110</td><td>RTTY/Data</td></tr> <tr><td>21.340</td><td>SSTV</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 12 Meters (24.89-24.99 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>24.920-24.925</td><td>RTTY</td></tr> <tr><td>24.925-24.930</td><td>Packet</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 10 Meters (28-29.7 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>28.000-28.070</td><td>CW</td></tr> <tr><td>28.070-28.150</td><td>RTTY</td></tr> <tr><td>28.150-28.190</td><td>CW</td></tr> <tr><td>28.200-28.300</td><td>Beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>28.300-29.300</td><td>Phone</td></tr> <tr><td>28.680</td><td>SSTV</td></tr> <tr><td>29.000-29.200</td><td>AM</td></tr> <tr><td>29.300-29.510</td><td>Satellite Downlinks</td></tr> <tr><td>29.520-29.590</td><td>Repeater Inputs</td></tr> <tr><td>29.600</td><td>FM Simplex</td></tr> <tr><td>29.610-29.700</td><td>Repeater Outputs</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 6 Meters (50-54 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>50.0-50.1</td><td>CW, beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>50.060-50.080</td><td>beacon subband</td></tr> <tr><td>50.1-50.3</td><td>SSB, CW</td></tr> <tr><td>50.10-50.125</td><td>DX window</td></tr> <tr><td>50.125</td><td>SSB calling</td></tr> <tr><td>50.3-50.6</td><td>All modes</td></tr> <tr><td>50.6-50.8</td><td>Nonvoice communications</td></tr> <tr><td>50.62</td><td>Digital (packet) calling</td></tr> <tr><td>50.8-51.0</td><td>Radio remote control (20-kHz channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>51.0-51.1</td><td>Pacific DX window</td></tr> <tr><td>51.12-51.48</td><td>Repeater inputs (19 channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>51.12-51.18</td><td>Digital repeater inputs</td></tr> <tr><td>51.62-51.98</td><td>Repeater outputs (19 channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>51.62-51.68</td><td>Digital repeater outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>52.0-52.48</td><td>Repeater inputs (except as noted; 23 channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>52.02, 52.04</td><td>FM simplex</td></tr> <tr><td>52.2</td><td>TEST PAIR (input)</td></tr> <tr><td>52.5-52.98</td><td>Repeater output (except as noted; 23 channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>52.525</td><td>Primary FM simplex</td></tr> <tr><td>52.54</td><td>Secondary FM simplex</td></tr> <tr><td>52.7</td><td>TEST PAIR (output)</td></tr> <tr><td>53.0-53.48</td><td>Repeater inputs (except as noted; 19 channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>53.0</td><td>Remote base FM simplex</td></tr> <tr><td>53.02</td><td>Simplex</td></tr> <tr><td>53.1, 53.2, 53.3, 53.4</td><td>Radio remote control</td></tr> <tr><td>53.5-53.98</td><td>Repeater outputs (except as noted; 19 channels)</td></tr> <tr><td>53.5, 53.6, 53.7, 53.8</td><td>Radio remote control</td></tr> <tr><td>53.52, 53.9</td><td>Simplex</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 2 Meters (144-148 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>144.00-144.05</td><td>EME (CW)</td></tr> <tr><td>144.05-144.10</td><td>General CW and weak signals</td></tr> <tr><td>144.10-144.20</td><td>EME and weak-signal SSB</td></tr> <tr><td>144.200</td><td>National calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>144.200-144.275</td><td>General SSB operation</td></tr> <tr><td>144.275-144.300</td><td>Propagation beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>144.30-144.50</td><td>New OSCAR subband</td></tr> <tr><td>144.50-144.60</td><td>Linear translator inputs</td></tr> <tr><td>144.60-144.90</td><td>FM repeater inputs</td></tr> <tr><td>144.90-145.10</td><td>Weak signal and FM simplex (145.01,03,05,07,09 are widely used for packet)</td></tr> <tr><td>145.10-145.20</td><td>Linear translator outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>145.20-145.50</td><td>FM repeater outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>145.50-145.80</td><td>Miscellaneous and experimental modes</td></tr> <tr><td>145.80-146.00</td><td>OSCAR subband</td></tr> <tr><td>146.01-146.37</td><td>Repeater inputs</td></tr> <tr><td>146.40-146.58</td><td>Simplex</td> </tr> <tr><td>146.52</td><td>National Simplex Calling Frequency</td> </tr> <tr><td>146.61-146.97</td><td>Repeater outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>147.00-147.39</td><td>Repeater outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>147.42-147.57</td><td>Simplex</td> </tr> <tr><td>147.60-147.99</td><td>Repeater inputs</td></tr> </tbody></table> Notes: The frequency 146.40 MHz is used in some areas as a repeater input. This band plan has been proposed by the ARRL VHF-UHF Advisory Committee. <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 1.25 Meters (222-225 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>222.0-222.150</td><td>Weak-signal modes</td></tr> <tr><td>222.0-222.025</td><td>EME</td></tr> <tr><td>222.05-222.06</td><td>Propagation beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>222.1</td><td>SSB & CW calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>222.10-222.15</td><td>Weak-signal CW & SSB</td></tr> <tr><td>222.15-222.25</td><td>Local coordinator's option; weak signal, ACSB, repeater inputs, control</td></tr> <tr><td>222.25-223.38</td><td>FM repeater inputs only</td></tr> <tr><td>223.40-223.52</td><td>FM simplex</td> </tr> <tr><td>223.52-223.64</td><td>Digital, packet</td></tr> <tr><td>223.64-223.70</td><td>Links, control</td></tr> <tr><td>223.71-223.85</td><td>Local coordinator's option; FM simplex, packet, repeater outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>223.85-224.98</td><td>Repeater outputs only</td></tr> </tbody></table> Note: The 222 MHz band plan was adopted by the ARRL Board of Directors in July 1991. <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 70 Centimeters (420-450 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>420.00-426.00</td><td>ATV repeater or simplex with 421.25 MHz video carrier control links and experimental</td></tr> <tr><td>426.00-432.00</td><td>ATV simplex with 427.250-MHz video carrier frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>432.00-432.07</td><td>EME (Earth-Moon-Earth)</td></tr> <tr><td>432.07-432.10</td><td>Weak-signal CW</td></tr> <tr><td>432.10</td><td>70-cm calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>432.10-432.30</td><td>Mixed-mode and weak-signal work</td></tr> <tr><td>432.30-432.40</td><td>Propagation beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>432.40-433.00</td><td>Mixed-mode and weak-signal work</td></tr> <tr><td>433.00-435.00</td><td>Auxiliary/repeater links</td></tr> <tr><td>435.00-438.00</td><td>Satellite only (internationally)</td></tr> <tr><td>438.00-444.00</td><td>ATV repeater input with 439.250-MHz video carrier frequency and repeater links</td></tr> <tr><td>442.00-445.00</td><td>Repeater inputs and outputs (local option)</td></tr> <tr><td>445.00-447.00</td><td>Shared by auxiliary and control links, repeaters and simplex (local option)</td></tr> <tr><td>446.00</td><td>National simplex frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>447.00-450.00</td><td>Repeater inputs and outputs (local option)</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 33 Centimeters (902-928 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>902.0-903.0</td><td>Narrow-bandwidth, weak-signal communications</td></tr> <tr><td>902.0-902.8</td><td>SSTV, FAX, ACSSB, experimental</td></tr> <tr><td>902.1</td><td>Weak-signal calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>902.8-903.0</td><td>Reserved for EME, CW expansion</td></tr> <tr><td>903.1</td><td>Alternate calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>903.0-906.0</td><td>Digital communications</td></tr> <tr><td>906-909</td><td>FM repeater inputs</td></tr> <tr><td>909-915</td><td>ATV</td></tr> <tr><td>915-918</td><td>Digital communications</td></tr> <tr><td>918-921</td><td>FM repeater outputs</td></tr> <tr><td>921-927</td><td>ATV</td></tr> <tr><td>927-928</td><td>FM simplex and links</td></tr> </tbody></table> Note: The 902 MHz band plan was adopted by the ARRL Board of Directors in July 1989 <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 23 Centimeters (1240-1300 MHz): <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>1240-1246</td><td>ATV #1</td></tr> <tr><td>1246-1248</td><td>Narrow-bandwidth FM point-to-point links and digital, duplex with 1258-1260.</td></tr> <tr><td>1248-1258</td><td>Digital Communications</td></tr> <tr><td>1252-1258</td><td>ATV #2</td></tr> <tr><td>1258-1260</td><td>Narrow-bandwidth FM point-to-point links digital, duplexed with 1246-1252</td></tr> <tr><td>1260-1270</td><td>Satellite uplinks, reference WARC '79</td></tr> <tr><td>1260-1270</td><td>Wide-bandwidth experimental, simplex ATV</td></tr> <tr><td>1270-1276</td><td>Repeater inputs, FM and linear, paired with 1282-1288, 239 pairs every 25 kHz, e.g. 1270.025, .050, etc.</td></tr> <tr><td>1271-1283</td><td>Non-coordinated test pair</td></tr> <tr><td>1276-1282</td><td>ATV #3</td></tr> <tr><td>1282-1288</td><td>Repeater outputs, paired with 1270-1276</td></tr> <tr><td>1288-1294</td><td>Wide-bandwidth experimental, simplex ATV</td></tr> <tr><td>1294-1295</td><td>Narrow-bandwidth FM simplex services, 25-kHz channels</td></tr> <tr><td>1294.5</td><td>National FM simplex calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>1295-1297</td><td>Narrow bandwidth weak-signal communications (no FM)</td></tr> <tr><td>1295.0-1295.8</td><td>SSTV, FAX, ACSSB, experimental</td></tr> <tr><td>1295.8-1296.0</td><td>Reserved for EME, CW expansion</td></tr> <tr><td>1296.00-1296.05</td><td>EME-exclusive</td></tr> <tr><td>1296.07-1296.08</td><td>CW beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>1296.1</td><td>CW, SSB calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>1296.4-1296.6</td><td>Crossband linear translator input</td></tr> <tr><td>1296.6-1296.8</td><td>Crossband linear translator output</td></tr> <tr><td>1296.8-1297.0</td><td>Experimental beacons (exclusive)</td></tr> <tr><td>1297-1300</td><td>Digital Communications</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 2300-2310 and 2390-2450 MHz: <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>2300.0-2303.0</td><td>High-rate data</td></tr> <tr><td>2303.0-2303.5</td><td>Packet</td> </tr> <tr><td>2303.5-2303.8</td><td>TTY packet</td></tr> <tr><td>2303.9-2303.9</td><td>Packet, TTY, CW, EME</td></tr> <tr><td>2303.9-2304.1</td><td>CW, EME</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.1</td><td>Calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.1-2304.2</td><td>CW, EME, SSB</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.2-2304.3</td><td>SSB, SSTV, FAX, Packet AM, Amtor</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.30-2304.32</td><td>Propagation beacon network</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.32-2304.40</td><td>General propagation beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.4-2304.5</td><td>SSB, SSTV, ACSSB, FAX, Packet AM, Amtor experimental</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.5-2304.7</td><td>Crossband linear translator input</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.7-2304.9</td><td>Crossband linear translator output</td></tr> <tr><td>2304.9-2305.0</td><td>Experimental beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>2305.0-2305.2</td><td>FM simplex (25 kHz spacing)</td></tr> <tr><td>2305.20</td><td>FM simplex calling frequency</td></tr> <tr><td>2305.2-2306.0</td><td>FM simplex (25 kHz spacing)</td></tr> <tr><td>2306.0-2309.0</td><td>FM Repeaters (25 kHz) input</td></tr> <tr><td>2309.0-2310.0</td><td>Control and auxiliary links</td></tr> <tr><td>2390.0-2396.0</td><td>Fast-scan TV</td></tr> <tr><td>2396.0-2399.0</td><td>High-rate data</td></tr> <tr><td>2399.0-2399.5</td><td>Packet</td></tr> <tr><td>2399.5-2400.0</td><td>Control and auxiliary links</td></tr> <tr><td>2400.0-2403.0</td><td>Satellite</td></tr> <tr><td>2403.0-2408.0</td><td>Satellite high-rate data</td></tr> <tr><td>2408.0-2410.0</td><td>Satellite</td></tr> <tr><td>2410.0-2413.0</td><td>FM repeaters (25 kHz) output</td></tr> <tr><td>2413.0-2418.0</td><td>High-rate data</td></tr> <tr><td>2418.0-2430.0</td><td>Fast-scan TV</td></tr> <tr><td>2430.0-2433.0</td><td>Satellite</td></tr> <tr><td>2433.0-2438.0</td><td>Satellite high-rate data</td></tr> <tr><td>2438.0-2450.0</td><td>WB FM, FSTV, FMTV, SS experimental</td></tr> </tbody></table> Note: The 2300 MHz band plan was adopted by the ARRL Board of Directors in January 1991 Note: The following band plans were adopted by the ARRL Board of Directors in July 1988 <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 3300-3500 MHz: <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>3456.3-3456.4</td><td>Propagation beacons</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 5650-5925 MHz: <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>5760.3-5760.4</td><td>Propagation beacons</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> 10.00-10.50 GHz: <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td>10.368</td><td>Narrow band calling frequency 10.3683-10.3684 Propagation beacons</td></tr> <tr><td>10.3640</td><td>Calling frequency</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- Subhead 1, Orange Heading --> Above 10.50 GHz:* All modes and licensees (except Novices) are authorized on the following bands: 24.0-24.25 GHz 47.0-47.2 GHz 76-81.0 GHz 122.25-123 GHz 134-141 GHz 241.0-250.0 GHz All above 275 GHz Edit: Hams can say with truth, that we can use the radio spectrum from D.C to light!

GOLD DUCK | 06-19-2009 03:10 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter QWAK,Back in 71 at Ft. Monmouth in RADAR repair training on of the guys left the DUMMY LOAD off of the IFF transmitter BIG OOPS:yes::36_1_30::36_1_25: New York city is close to Ft. Monmouth and there are BIG airports and smaller ones all over the place!:yes: For about 15 min. IFF TRANSPONDERS and and controll towers were going NUTS!:yes::4_1_72::evil::111: It was NOT me:wink::452: but I did get blamed for droping a WASHER down a $2000.00 piece of SILVER lined WAVE guide and FRYING IT!:yes: I picked up a military PACK radiofrom the 50s that was intended for air drops behind enemy lines -- IT has a DESTRUCT plug in the center (explocives removed) that would render it useless when trigered!:yes: Brand NEW never issued with antenna mast and guy wires -- even a DRY wet sell battery -- just ADD WATER! It has VACUUME penut tubes -- NO TRANSISTORS or CHIPS,air capasitor tuning! I have never fired it up -- bought it back in the late 70s for $40.00 if I remember right at a surpluss place. It has a heavely padded case with a huge SNAP atached for snaping on to a parachot or hanging it on a pack anamal orwhat ever.:s1: Ther was no microphone :( so would have to get a head set and I never did. BTW: In Nam the VC took cheep small portable B+W TVs and cliped the tuning coils and listened in on FM feald comunications IF it was not on a SCRAMBLER -- the VC were way smarter than our government told the public!:yes: the DUCK

Golddust | 06-19-2009 03:22 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK (Post 1778020) QWAK,Back in 71 at Ft. Monmouth in RADAR repair training on of the guys left the DUMMY LOAD off of the IFF transmitter BIG OOPS:yes::36_1_30::36_1_25: New York city is close to Ft. Monmouth and there are BIG airports and smaller ones all over the place!:yes: For about 15 min. IFF TRANSPONDERS and and controll towers were going NUTS!:yes::4_1_72::evil::111: It was NOT me:wink::452: but I did get blamed for droping a WASHER down a $2000.00 piece of SILVER lined WAVE guide and FRYING IT!:yes: I picked up a military PACK radiofrom the 50s that was intended for air drops behind enemy lines -- IT has a DESTRUCT plug in the center (explocives removed) that would render it useless when trigered!:yes: Brand NEW never issued with antenna mast and guy wires -- even a DRY wet sell battery -- just ADD WATER! It has VACUUME penut tubes -- NO TRANSISTORS or CHIPS,air capasitor tuning! I have never fired it up -- bought it back in the late 70s for $40.00 if I remember right at a surpluss place. It has a heavely padded case with a huge SNAP atached for snaping on to a parachot or hanging it on a pack anamal orwhat ever.:s1: Ther was no microphone :( so would have to get a head set and I never did. BTW: In Nam the VC took cheep small portable B+W TVs and cliped the tuning coils and listened in on FM feald comunications IF it was not on a SCRAMBLER -- the VC were way smarter than our government told the public!:yes: the DUCK
It may be fun to see if it would work.... I would place a bet ,,it will... If you know any hams in your area,, may be fun to see if it does... The only thing that would worry me would be the electrolytic caps , being dry.. But Mili spec..maybe not. :ok:

GOLD DUCK | 06-19-2009 03:39 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter QWAK,Golddust,Don't know any HAMS and it has been SOooooooooooo long since I was in electronics the only part that may be of use to ME, would likely be the FM antena and mast and guy wires for use on an FM han unit to extend range. IT is a cool radio for a collector!:yes: Hopfully once I get this new puter set up I will be able to post some pictures agen! :s1: the DUCK

Dave Thomas | 06-19-2009 08:06 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 1777835) Ok. so i'm new to the radio stuff. got myself the tech ticket and just bought a yaesu vx7r. (not recieved it yet) this thread brings up an interesting topic... what are the bands that HAMs are not allowed to transmit on (official use only), but might be interesting to monitor? do some of them require specific hardware, like the military radio stuff? links to good info?
Good government crypto sounds like static. It's creepy! There are tons of frequencies that the vx7r could pick up, but if they don't want you listening you won't hear it. A lot of air force stuff happens near 300~400 MHz If I remember correctly. The next time you're at your favorite periodicals stand look for Monitoring Times: http://www.monitoringtimes.com/ They usually post airbase freqs and stuff like that.

Dave Thomas | 06-19-2009 08:13 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Oh and here are some modifications you can do to your VX7R that will do neat things! http://www.ham.dmz.ro/yaesu/vx-7r.php http://www.kb2ljj.com/data/yaesu/vx-7r.htm Be ginger on the inside! Hell who am I kidding you're an EE! I'll now wait for every other HAM in the forum to call me a doo doo head for posting these links. :)

AceNZ | 06-19-2009 08:32 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter It's not cheap, but if you're looking for a "real" HT, I highly recommend the Icom IC-92AD with D-Star. D-Star is cool because it allows HT-to-HT digital communications. You can also use a digital repeater that will forward your conversation over the Internet and then re-transmit it in another country.

Dave Thomas | 06-19-2009 08:53 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by AceNZ (Post 1778404) It's not cheap, but if you're looking for a "real" HT, I highly recommend the Icom IC-92AD with D-Star. D-Star is cool because it allows HT-to-HT digital communications. You can also use a digital repeater that will forward your conversation over the Internet and then re-transmit it in another country.
Hey Ace, can you store and forward with IRLP using DStar?

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Golddust | 06-19-2009 09:01 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Thomas (Post 1778389) Oh and here are some modifications you can do to your VX7R that will do neat things! http://www.ham.dmz.ro/yaesu/vx-7r.php http://www.kb2ljj.com/data/yaesu/vx-7r.htm Be ginger on the inside! Hell who am I kidding you're an EE! I'll now wait for every other HAM in the forum to call me a doo doo head for posting these links. :)
You can do the mods via software... all you need is to make or buy the program cable.. The program that comes with the ready made cable is not as good as the free vx-7 commander.. I have a vx-7r Just a thought. and only if you want me to ,,,ok,,,,doo doo head... Just kidding...

Agamemnon | 06-19-2009 09:30 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunCoin (Post 1777786) Got a couple a while back, they are knock-off ICOMS, but the FM had a little distortion, not bad for $60 radio. The reason I try to install a little radio discipline here is that if you have any problems with "illegal" radios like transmitting on the Police Band or blocking up an industrial repeater, then the outcome "IF CAUGHT" will not be good.
For the "noobs". Just tune the radios to the MURS channels and use them. The scan feature is great for monitoring police traffic. I know a lot of people with guns but they don't shoot up the town either. Use the radios and don't shoot yourself in the foot.

Dave Thomas | 06-19-2009 09:41 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 1778451) You can do the mods via software... all you need is to make or buy the program cable.. The program that comes with the ready made cable is not as good as the free vx-7 commander.. I have a vx-7 Just a thought. and only if you want me to ,,,ok,,,,doo doo head... Just kidding...
I did the same with an FT-817, it was all via a serial cable and CAT interface. I didn't know you could do that with the VX-7 either. Actually, I remember how illegal I felt by holding both up and down buttons and the MR key on my FT-411E, that was 17 years ago. God what a rebel I was.

Iptuous | 06-19-2009 09:55 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter good info ITT! thanks guys...

Golddust | 06-19-2009 09:56 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Thomas (Post 1778492) I did the same with an FT-817, it was all via a serial cable and CAT interface. I didn't know you could do that with the VX-7 either. Actually, I remember how illegal I felt by holding both up and down buttons and the MR key on my FT-411E, that was 17 years ago. God what a rebel I was.
Started doing the out of band mods when I was In usaf mars.. Still mod the radios ,, thinking about getting back into the mars program again.. and you are right ,,first time about 20 years ago , and did feel kinda like a outlaw but doing the mars program made it all right.. Dont care much for cell phones and if needed on vhf ,,if on the roads and their is a wreck or emergency need ,, can go up on public safety freqs and get help.. In 19+ years 3 times.. also skywarn was and still am a spotter , Used to call the local town police to let them know if something was heading our way, (the chief at the time loved it) used to beat the teletype they used by 10 min or so.. no need now, with the internet and they can watch radar on their own now..

AceNZ | 06-19-2009 10:01 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Thomas (Post 1778438) Hey Ace, can you store and forward with IRLP using DStar?
Probably, although there's some overlap between the systems. IRLP is basically VOIP, and uses its own codecs. D-Star uses special Icom-provided codecs to do something similar, using RF on both ends (though there is a PC dongle that lets you avoid RF on one end if you want to). You can also send aribitrary data over D-Star, so I imagine you could rig up a store and forward system that worked with IRLP. I'm not aware of any work in that area though.

Dave Thomas | 06-19-2009 10:13 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by AceNZ (Post 1778522) Probably, although there's some overlap between the systems. IRLP is basically VOIP, and uses its own codecs. D-Star uses special Icom-provided codecs to do something similar, using RF on both ends (though there is a PC dongle that lets you avoid RF on one end if you want to). You can also send aribitrary data over D-Star, so I imagine you could rig up a store and forward system that worked with IRLP. I'm not aware of any work in that area though.
When you say arbitrary data, I think this is the reason HAMs are leery of D-Star cause they can sort of see it turning into the high speed Winlink 2000 for UHF and HTs. People using it to get e-mail and web pages and such. Hams just wave the stick and shout "FIRE!" and kind of dismiss the whole technology.

Golddust | 07-11-2009 01:57 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Bump and a Bump again.

Iptuous | 07-11-2009 02:07 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter so, where is a good tutorial for getting started in the digital modes?

Golddust | 07-11-2009 02:16 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 1812333) so, where is a good tutorial for getting started in the digital modes?
Others here can help more than I can Iptuous In the past did packet and teletype but no over the air digital been close to 15 years since I messed with it. ssb cw modes I do now. still have my kantronics kam modem, kinda dusty now... May you try a web search to start?

steyr_m | 07-11-2009 06:56 PM
Re: Bug Out Transmitter Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 1769513) VHF is the best band for rural comms. Pending on location and terrain. Pending on what your transmitting to. HT to HT is most limited, HT to Mobile is better, HT to a good base station is best because of antenna and power. In a SHTF situation I'd climb the tallest location and transmit from there. My mobile to base has about 10 mile range, my base to HT is good for about 2 miles but its all about location. At my uncles place (bluff over river valley) I can get almost 7 miles to my mobile on this little radio.
I think the 6M band is best for rural. It has some of the properties of VHF & HF. VHF you are limit by it's line-of-sight requirements. The distance between two radios are (I may be wrong, I'm going from memory) SQRT( (17 x Ant Height) + (17 x Ant Height) )

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