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man_of_truth | 12-11-2009 12:43 PM
Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Folks, please make sure you do not simply stock up on your gold and firearms. Think about feeding yourself and your loved ones. I made this video after I came out of the shop and bought two buckets of wheat for a couple of worthless paper dollars. Think about it: for a couple of bills (which will be WORTHLESS in a couple of months) I could buy WHEAT -- which will potentially be very very scarce and precious should things play out exactly as I expect. By the way: For those of you speculating in the futures markets, buying Wheat futures -> Forget about it. In a civil war the future markets will be shut down and you won't get delivery. Make sure you stock up on a couple of buckets of the real thing. It's like gold, real gold beats paper gold and real wheat beats paper wheat. M.O.T. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RzwpLPFDDL8&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RzwpLPFDDL8&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

tanner12oz | 12-11-2009 12:51 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT any common cooking instructions for raw wheat? any additional prepping of the buckets needed after purchase?

Professur | 12-11-2009 12:58 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT MOT, you really need to script more. You might have a good message, but your rambling.

Abouthadit | 12-11-2009 01:17 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Thanks for the posting Man of Truth, and welcome to the zoo.

TLM | 12-11-2009 01:32 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Welcome to GIM. Buy gold because you don't own it, unless you "hold". Buy wheat, because gold you can't eat. Buy a gun, because stolen wheat is no fun! I'm sorry, that was pretty bad.

ArizonaGold | 12-11-2009 06:50 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT So how long do you figure 90 lbs. of wheat will take care of you and yours?

mick silver | 12-11-2009 07:03 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT dam now i need to buy food . wish i had not took my silver an gold an food out boating

mick silver | 12-11-2009 07:05 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT were did you get the wheat is that walmart in the back ground

MNeagle | 12-11-2009 07:12 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 2071288) were did you get the wheat is that walmart in the back ground
It's a Wal-Mart in Utah, mentioned at the beginning of his video. I missed the city name.

hoarder | 12-11-2009 07:16 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I didn't buy any wheat because I didn't know what to do with it. I would think that one should buy rice and beans first before wheat. Wheat isn't as good for you because of the gluten compared to rice and beans. But if you're hungry it's better than nothing. I remember pulling wheat kernels off live wheat as a kid and eating it, I liked it.

silvertooth | 12-11-2009 07:26 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Good to see you here, MOT. I'm a Youtube subscriber. I haven't been able to find those buckets of wheat around here(NY), not even Wallmart. Probably have to order online. Keep posting.

Merlin | 12-11-2009 07:33 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaGold (Post 2071265) So how long do you figure 90 lbs. of wheat will take care of you and yours?
According to my food storage calculator, 90 pounds is good for 7 months for one person, assuming you have all the other foodstuffs you need. Wheat is useful for many things, like bread and bisquits and pies; gravies and sauces; cooked for breakfast; tortillas; bagels; hotdog and hamburger buns; crackers; pancakes and waffles; cakes and cookies; sprouts for salads; sprouts for juicers. I don't need to go on, do I? Of course, for most of these you will need a grain mill to make wheat flour. But a grain mill can also be used to create corn flour and even bean flour (for instant refried beans and to thicken gravies and sauces.) Abouthadit said it best, Welcome to the zoo, MOT.

Merlin | 12-11-2009 07:38 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by newmisty (Post 2071318) That bucket of wheat is now 8 years old.
That bucket of wheat, if stored sealed with O2 absorbers and kept in a cool, dark, dry place will keep for 30 years or more. But don't start a longetivity contest. Learn to use it. Cook with your stored wheat berries. And rotate your stock. I've gone through an easy 90 pounds since I bought my first wheat 5 years ago. And it certainly doesn't function as a survival food mainstay at this point.

Workaholic | 12-11-2009 07:48 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Thanks for the post, MOT Keep curling those buckets.

Keef | 12-11-2009 08:15 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by man_of_truth (Post 2070679) Folks, please make sure you do not simply stock up on your gold and firearms. Think about feeding yourself and your loved ones. <object width="425" height="344"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RzwpLPFDDL8&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>
Welcome to GIM, Brent. I have been following your uTube vids for about two years now and never expected to see you in these backwaters of the Internet. I guess it's a small world for Truthers. Really appreciate your holistic approach, bro. You made a lot of good calls in the past two years, a lot of your stuff was spot on. (btw, love the Harvard wife-beater t-tops,, hahahaha) But a bucket of wheat for a sports car? Have to admit, I chuckled when I first heard that one.. But yeah, we are dealing with something of Biblical proportions. I don't think any of us really want to admit how bad things will get before they get better. Look forward to your input around here and a hearty welcome, MOT. :coolbeer:

latemetal | 12-11-2009 09:33 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT MOT, thanks for the video and I look forward to more.:23_28_100s:

Ximmy | 12-11-2009 09:41 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I don't store large amounts of food anymore because, for whatever reason, it seems to get contaminated in one way or another and I end up throwing it away. :bawling: ...besides everything is at the store... LOL ...

ArizonaGold | 12-11-2009 10:06 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT That 8-year-old bucket of wheat should be just like new. We recently inherited several 38-year-old buckets of wheat, in re-used buckets, with no oxygen absorbers. They are good as new. We will be using them first. We go through about 20 lbs a week at our house.

Ishkabibble | 12-11-2009 10:07 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Ximmy (Post 2071556) I don't store large amounts of food anymore because, for whatever reason, it seems to get contaminated in one way or another and I end up throwing it away. :bawling: ...besides everything is at the store... LOL ...
Good point. Besides, if things get really bad, you can always eat your neighbours cat. Or your neighours for that matter. Seriously though, if you have issues storing food it will only be worse if you are figuring it out later. Learn to store safely using the excess you get easily today; it may not be around to practice with tomorrow.

Ximmy | 12-11-2009 10:13 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishkabibble (Post 2071591) Good point. Besides, if things get really bad, you can always eat your neighbours cat. Or your neighours for that matter. Seriously though, if you have issues storing food it will only be worse if you are figuring it out later. Learn to store safely using the excess you get easily today; it may not be around to practice with tomorrow.
Thanks... I don't disagree... I need to work on that... perhaps many of us will have storage problems and don't even know it yet...

StackerKen | 12-11-2009 10:17 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Im sure our walmart doesn't have it any sugestions where to find it localy ? or even online?

MNeagle | 12-11-2009 10:23 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I know we bought wheat berries at the local heatlh food store.

ArizonaGold | 12-11-2009 10:39 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT The current price at your local LDS cannery is $5.90 for a 25# bag. You won't come close to that price anywhere else. They are also the best source for dry milk, at $24.80 for a 25# bag. That bag reconstitutes nicely to 26 gallons of milk, and could make 35 - 40 lbs of absolutely delicious homemade ricotta cheese. Their dried apples, dried carrots, and dried onions are worth a look too. Everybody knows a Mormon or two. Ask your favorite one to take you, and they will thank you for getting them motivated as well. Wheat and wheat berries are the same thing. They only call them wheat berries when they are overcharging you.

StackerKen | 12-11-2009 10:51 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I don't know any Mormons I found a LDS storehouse in a city nearby do you have to be a member to buy stuff there?

StackerKen | 12-11-2009 10:56 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Soft White Wheat? Hard White Wheat? Hard Red Wheat? or Spring Wheat?

StackerKen | 12-11-2009 11:04 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT thanks Ima. What kind do you recommend?

ArizonaGold | 12-11-2009 11:36 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Here's a link to the LDS cannery price list: http://www.providentliving.org/pfw/m...eSheet_pdf.pdf We keep a bucket of each open; the hard red winter wheat for the normal whole-wheat bread; and the hard white winter wheat for things made with roll dough: rolls, cinnamon roll bread, pull-a-part's, pancakes, and the like. The red wheat has a higher protein content, the white is lighter and looks a little more like white flour. You may want to "break-in" your family on the white wheat, then switch over to the red. The dried refried beans on the list are also very good, and when reconstituted are comparable to paying $0.25 for a 15-oz can of refried beans. They are also vegetarian and fat-free, but you can add your own lard if you really want to.

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 12:00 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT what is a ward? and a stake? I may just have to go hang out there. and get to know some LDS I love Jesus and so do they so Maybe they will let me buy there?

cpy911 | 12-12-2009 12:10 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2071745) what is a ward? and a stake? I may just have to go hang out there. and get to know some LDS I love Jesus and so do they so Maybe they will let me buy there?
A ward is like a local congregation of predefined set boundaries. They can be as large as 100-500 members. Multiple wards make up a Stake. A Bishop serves as the leader of Ward who reports to the Stake President. The Stake President then is the leader of the wards that make up the Stake. Make sure you bring a personal check to the cannery, I only had cash last time and they could not make change, meaning they would not complete the transaction if I did not have exact change. Another lady wrote out a check for me. I am headed back next month...the food is really cheap...don't tell everyone though...don't want it to get expensive!!! Now I just need to figure out where to put all of these #10 cans!

gunDriller | 12-12-2009 03:06 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT oddly, my small wheat crop this year was stolen. the spearmint, tomatoes, potatoes, corn, etc. was left behind; every wheat plant was removed from the ground. Monsanto Goon Squad, perhaps ? anyway, i have to focus my shopping skills on finding a better price on the buckets of wheat than what the health food store has.

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RJB | 12-12-2009 03:40 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaGold (Post 2071641) Everybody knows a Mormon or two. Ask your favorite one to take you, and they will thank you for getting them motivated as well.
I've found Mormons to be very charitable especially when it comes to helping others with preps. I've made it clear that I have no intention of converting and I still have been warmly invited to the cannery. I will give you a friendly warning AG. A lot of people seem to have raiding their Mormon neighbors houses in times of crisis as their sole preparation plan. I've actually heard people say that.

Zilver | 12-12-2009 03:57 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT OK, just ran out and got some wheat in convenient boxes.:bear_cry: but 300 lb ? takes up to much room:452::rofl: http://www.quakeroats.com/Libraries/...tail.sflb.ashx ps. Good to see you posting here MOT :emotions16:

andial | 12-12-2009 04:11 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT 1 Attachment(s) You are better off storing numerous amounts of Macaroni and Lentils. Keep it simple,cheap and good tasting. Plus you can enjoy it now and not just store it for the end times.

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 04:27 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I already have beans and rice and pasta. Now I want wheat But I don't wanna pay heath food store prices for it

cpy911 | 12-12-2009 04:35 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by RJB (Post 2072467) I've found Mormons to be very charitable especially when it comes to helping others with preps. I've made it clear that I have no intention of converting and I still have been warmly invited to the cannery. I will give you a friendly warning AG. A lot of people seem to have raiding their Mormon neighbors houses in times of crisis as their sole preparation plan. I've actually heard people say that.
A lot of them are armed, guess it goes hand in hand with preps. They also tend to stick together and could possibly form a cohesive defense force as needed. Nevertheless, a lot of them DON'T prep, even though they are told to, despite having an easy cannery style system in place. For now, just show up, smile, be kind, clean up, and you will be welcomed. I am sure if hordes of people start showing up, they will limit supplies to regular church members with special needs first...its their food, so its their right... We have a wheat grinder (just ground up some this morning!!) and use it like regular flour in everything, pancakes, bread, waffles, cookies, cakes. We rotate like crazy. The potato flakes are good too. Got lots of that stuff. We also use the dried milk in cooking whenever milk is called for. Just got a couple cases of that stuff too. Regards.

gypsybiker45 | 12-12-2009 05:50 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by RJB (Post 2072467) I've found Mormons to be very charitable especially when it comes to helping others with preps. I've made it clear that I have no intention of converting and I still have been warmly invited to the cannery. I will give you a friendly warning AG. A lot of people seem to have raiding their Mormon neighbors houses in times of crisis as their sole preparation plan. I've actually heard people say that.
Im more or less a lost soul,as far as the Lord is concerned, the way I figure it, Im out of the running for eternal salvation, If ANYONE ever attacked a Mormon family9or anyone else for that matter) to raid their supplies, they would be wishing for a ground glass milkshake by the time i finished with them.those types need to be put down immediately in a crisis like the dangerous animals they are. BTW I am studying the Book of Mormon lately and believe I actually may be a convert eventually,damned or not.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 07:00 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT For wheat you also need a grinder and bread machine, also plenty of packets of yeast and you are good to go with the staff of life.

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 07:05 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 2072669) For wheat you also need a grinder and bread machine, also plenty of packets of yeast and you are good to go with the staff of life.
A bread machine? whats wrong with an oven?

Golddust | 12-12-2009 07:11 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 2072669) For wheat you also need a grinder and bread machine, also plenty of packets of yeast and you are good to go with the staff of life.
As said above bread machine? Easy to do by hand, and if you go the sourdough route. you do not need store bought yeast. So really all one would need is the wheat and a grinder + oven, or such!

Merlin | 12-12-2009 07:18 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 2072683) As said above bread machine? Easy to do by hand, and if you go the sourdough route. you do not need store bought yeast. So really all one would need is the wheat and a grinder + oven, or such!
I've actually baked bread in a solar oven. So, depending on where you live and your average local weather, your requirements can be quite loose. Furthermore, the Mexican people have been doing quite well for a long time with unleavened breads like tortillas that can be fried in a cast iron skillet over campfire coals.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 07:24 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072673) A bread machine? whats wrong with an oven?
I have a gas oven but I like the idea of a backup electric bread machine. I could bake bread using my Honda generator if I had too.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 07:26 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 2072683) As said above bread machine? Easy to do by hand, and if you go the sourdough route. you do not need store bought yeast. So really all one would need is the wheat and a grinder + oven, or such!
A bread machine is a small electric oven, but suit yourself. Ovens like you are talking about are old school and good.

Merlin | 12-12-2009 07:28 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072518) I already have beans and rice and pasta. Now I want wheat But I don't wanna pay heath food store prices for it
Talk to your health food store manager. Shipping costs for me are ugly. The store manager agreed to let me piggy-back a 25-pound order on his next order and give me a volume discount price. Saved me money on shipping and beat his store price too. It may still be too expensive for your budget; but you won't know until you ask.

Golddust | 12-12-2009 07:34 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 2072695) A bread machine is a small electric oven, but suit yourself. Ovens like you are talking about are old school and good.
I am old school!! :36_1_25: Thank you.....:ok: :wink:

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 07:42 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 2072699) Bake bread in an old school oven, like mine!
Probably half the guys here would happily oblige.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 07:45 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I live in an apartment so if my gas oven goes out after a major earthquake well then it's Honda and bread maker time.

Golddust | 12-12-2009 07:51 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 2072708) Probably half the guys here would happily oblige.
Whoo Wheeee.... :23_30_104: :cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1: :biggrin:

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Golddust (Post 2072717) Whoo Wheeee.... :23_30_104: :cry1::cry1::cry1::cry1: :biggrin:
She's got the hottest avatars around. :bulride:

RJB | 12-12-2009 08:02 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsybiker45 (Post 2072588) Im more or less a lost soul,as far as the Lord is concerned, the way I figure it, Im out of the running for eternal salvation,
Don't beat yourself up too much. The devil loves to push us between the extremes of pride and self loathing. Take the middle road. Quote:
If ANYONE ever attacked a Mormon family9or anyone else for that matter) to raid their supplies, they would be wishing for a ground glass milkshake by the time i finished with them.those types need to be put down immediately in a crisis like the dangerous animals they are.
I agree. If it came across like I was condoning it, I apologize. I get pissed off when I hear people joke about raiding the house of a prepper, no matter their belief system. That's why I keep my mouth shut. But I have heard people jokingly say they go to a Mormon's house in bad times. Those people are paracites if they won't prep but try to take from those who do. Although I'm not a Mormon, I do have profound respect for someone who offers to help those be ready for a crisis.

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 08:16 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsybiker45 (Post 2072588) Im more or less a lost soul,as far as the Lord is concerned, the way I figure it, Im out of the running for eternal salvation,
Gypsy, Its never to late for the lord to change a person. Im prayin for ya buddy! Check it out Luke 18:10-14 (New International Version) "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men�robbers, evildoers, adulterers�or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." That is how God works. He wants us to humble our selfs Im thinkin the OP is a believer too...gonna see if I can find his stuff on youtube.

ArizonaGold | 12-12-2009 10:05 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT There seems to be a little confusion out there about bread machines. One type is the all-in-one machine that mixes, kneads, rises, and bakes one loaf at a time. The other is a Bosch bread machine (google it), which mixes and kneads about five loaves at a time. When it is finished, you form your five loaves, let them rise, and bake them in your oven. Kitchen Aid makes a passable alternative. Serious bread makers generally use the latter.

Merlin | 12-12-2009 10:16 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072748) Gypsy, Its never to late for the lord to change a person. Im prayin for ya buddy! Check it out Luke 18:10-14 (New International Version) "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted." That is how God works. He wants us to humble our selfs Im thinkin the OP is a believer too...gonna see if I can find his stuff on youtube.
Trader, Gypsy is already a changed person. He has had this bad ass persona for so long that he confuses people. Truth is he's already one of the good guys. Of course, I'm taking a little literary license here. Don't know him well. But I've seen him in action. And, as they say, the Lord works in mysterious ways.

Merlin | 12-12-2009 10:22 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaGold (Post 2072854) There seems to be a little confusion out there about bread machines. One type is the all-in-one machine that mixes, kneads, rises, and bakes one loaf at a time. The other is a Bosch bread machine (google it), which mixes and kneads about five loaves at a time. When it is finished, you form your five loaves, let them rise, and bake them in your oven. Kitchen Aid makes a passable alternative. Serious bread makers generally use the latter.
Of course, most of us who started with the all-in-one machine know that they have a dough cycle. And, while it doesn't mix 5 loaves at a time, it does at least give you the option of letting the dough rise in the bread pan. I still have mine and it works fine in that capacity. Don't know what I'd do with 5 loaves of bread at one time, LOL.

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 2072873) Don't know what I'd do with 5 loaves of bread at one time, LOL.
Exactly what I was thinking when I read that post. we have a bread machine thats makes one loaf. But My wife doesn't use it. She says it just as easy and Better to use the kitchenaid mixer and the oven. She makes two loafs at a time Gotta get me some wheat and a grinder

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 10:35 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072878) Exactly what I was thinking when I read that post. we have a bread machine thats makes one loaf. But My wife doesn't use it. She says it just as easy and Better to use the kitchenaid mixer and the oven. She makes two loafs at a time Gotta get me some wheat and a grinder
Bread machines can be used just as a mixer, and then use the oven. That is how some people I know do it. So far as grinders go, I have a Jupiter from Germany.. Great machine. It comes with a hand crank as well.

Merlin | 12-12-2009 10:37 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072878) Exactly what I was thinking when I read that post. we have a bread machine thats makes one loaf. But My wife doesn't use it. She says it just as easy and Better to use the kitchenaid mixer and the oven. She makes two loafs at a time Gotta get me some wheat and a grinder
And I have a Kitchenaid mixer with the dough thingy and I haven't made a decent loaf of bread with it yet. Please have your wife tell us the secret!

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 2072885) And I have a Kitchenaid mixer with the dough thingy and I haven't made a decent loaf of bread with it yet. Please have your wife tell us the secret!
I just asked her...she said "what?" "you just let it do your dough"...lol She just said what was wrong with the bread? Maybe she will come on in a bit Her ID is Playswithfire

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 10:45 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 2072885) And I have a Kitchenaid mixer with the dough thingy and I haven't made a decent loaf of bread with it yet. Please have your wife tell us the secret!
You know you can easily overmix with a Kitchen Aid, which breaks down the gluten strands too much. I think the key to it is the amount of time being mixed. I never mastered it myself. Found it easier to mix by hand, until I finally relented and bought a machine that is.

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 10:56 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT My wife made a couple loafs a few days ago It was with regular white flour but it was Yummy! She took a pic for her lampwork forum friends and I made her send it to me http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...rken/bread.jpg

RaccoonRiverRadical | 12-12-2009 11:01 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072902) My wife made a couple loafs a few days ago It was with regular white flour but it was Yummy!
Regular white flour is the choice of French bread makers and no one makes better bread than them. If you have any sort of blood sugar issues that stuff has to be avoided, though. Which is too bad. I always have to make whole wheat, which I get kind of tired of.

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Iptuous | 12-12-2009 11:09 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 2071296) Mick, Out west here, Wally world has been selling long term storage foods. Check with your wally world and see they cant get it in! Sorry to hear about your boating accident, I lost all mine in a sky diving accident
Ima, are you saying these buckets are already ready already? as in they are good to go for long term storage with airtight seal and all? that's awesome, if so! I'd pay several bucks per bucket to have the labor described in the mylar bag+oxy absorber posts/videos.... (and presumably by somebody who knows what they're doing, has done it a thousand times now, and has some quality control) (tertiarily related, Is there a mil spec on long term food storage?)

Merlin | 12-12-2009 11:14 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072888) I just asked her...she said "what?" "you just let it do your dough"...lol She just said what was wrong with the bread? Maybe she will come on in a bit Her ID is Playswithfire
All the loaves that I ever mixed with the Kitchenaid were low-risers. Not one of them -- ever -- rose up and produced a nice, lofty loaf of bread. Everyone of them were low-risers. Now, I ask, what did I do wrong? Because I'm sure it was my problem. All those Kithcenaid mix-masters can not be wrong!

StackerKen | 12-12-2009 11:30 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 2072923) All the loaves that I ever mixed with the Kitchenaid were low-risers. Not one of them -- ever -- rose up and produced a nice, lofty loaf of bread. Everyone of them were low-risers. Now, I ask, what did I do wrong? Because I'm sure it was my problem. All those Kithcenaid mix-masters can not be wrong!
:confused_m: I wish I could help you Merlin. My wife is Busy Killing the enemy on her vidieo game. she says "maybe you over mixed the dough" or your yeast wasn't good I don't know what else to say:signs14:

StrawMan=Corporation | 12-12-2009 11:42 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I found a website that helps with the ward and stake thing. I'm figuring if we (my wife and I) need to fit in to get the food we will do whats required. Heck I havent been to any church in over 40 years. http://www.onlymormon.com/Stake-Directory/California/

Iptuous | 12-13-2009 12:01 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 2072926) they are all ready for you to long term store. you can fit almost 50 lbs of wheat in a 6 gallon bucket. the bucket cost about 6 bucks plus the lid at about 2.00 , then the .10 cents for an oxy absorber. 12 bucks in wheat, 8 bucks in a bucket......
mebbee i'm just dense tonight, but just for clarification, the buckets they are sold in at wallyworld are long term storage buckets, and they come sealed with the oxy absorber in them and everything? you just buy the bucket of wheat, and stick it in your pantry? I guess i'm confused because you say they are ready, but then you list the price of the wheat, bucket, lid, and absorber separately....

StackerKen | 12-13-2009 12:04 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by StrawMan=Corporation (Post 2072951) I found a website that helps with the ward and stake thing. I'm figuring if we (my wife and I) need to fit in to get the food we will do whats required. Heck I havent been to any church in over 40 years. http://www.onlymormon.com/Stake-Directory/California/
I got my order form filled out. But I don't think I can lie to them. Im just gonna see if they will let me buy from them even though Im not a member.

inthedark | 12-13-2009 12:15 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT prefer Mountain House myself due to the easy storage

StackerKen | 12-13-2009 12:27 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 2072992) I was giving you the price of what it cost to store your own wheat in the buckets compared to what the Walmart wheat cost that should be ready to go. ( I don't know what the walmart wheat cost)
the OP said he got 45lb buckets for $15.99 at walmart back when gold was a 990 something

Iptuous | 12-13-2009 12:33 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2073018) the OP said he got 45lb buckets for $15.99 at walmart back when gold was a 990 something
I will definitely be doing that if i can get them here in North TX.... *goes to check walmart.com what other long term storage stuff they have ready to go* ETA: crap.... found nothing at walmart.com... will have to go ask the grocery manager at local wallyworld.

StackerKen | 12-13-2009 12:36 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 2073026) I will definitely be doing that if i can get them here in North TX.... *goes to check walmart.com what other long term storage stuff they have ready to go*
I had no luck at walmart.com :s15: Please let us know what you find Quote:
Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 2073026) ETA: crap.... found nothing at walmart.com... will have to go ask the grocery manager at local wallyworld.
Me too.

madcow | 12-13-2009 12:41 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I'm NOT watching your video MOT. I got severely turned off after your recent youtube video begging for funds to pay for an attorney in regards to you violating a protection order protecting your ex wife. You're closely associated with another scammer, george4title, who is partnered with the Lebed fellow who is a convicted stock pump and dump artist. Fraudsters like you are after one thing which is an angle on current events for the sole purpose of getting eyeballs for alarmist videos, and hence a modest paycheck from Google. You've mastered the ability to prey on people's genuine fears and come up with a nifty video directly pandering to those fears. The subject doesn't matter - you'll banter on about swine flu or buckets of wheat equally enthusiastically - just as long as people click your videos and you get paid. It is a certainty you've researched which forum will generate the maximum revenue and clicks - I know I would. I've watched enough of your 'Harvard-educated' efforts to discern a charlatan. Beware of this fellow and his linked videos, which I'm sure you're going to see more of here. My 2 cents and the behold first member to make my ignore list.

StrawMan=Corporation | 12-13-2009 01:30 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Im not suggesting anyone lie to them, just filling out the form the way they want. IE tell them what ward and stake you are from. The form does not ask about membership in any church group does it ? at least not that I noticed. IE just learing their terms and use them. Here is their main page on the food storage. Ive had a cursory look at it and do not see where it says you have to be a church member to purchase from them. http://www.providentliving.org/chann...1706-1,00.html Update on the LDS food issue: I spoke to a local bishop and unless you are a member of the church the food at the churches </TD><TD class=featurestext align="left" valign="top" width="99%"><SCRIPT language=JavaScript> <!-- if( document.currentTopicForm ) { for (i = 0; i < document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.length; i++) { if (document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic[i].value.indexOf("1706") >= 0) { document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.selectedInd ex = i; break; } } } //--> </SCRIPT><FORM name=frm>Home Storage Centers (For members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.) If I would have seen this page first I would have known. </FORM>http://www.providentliving.org/location/map/0,12566,2026-1-4,00.html <TD width="1"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=1></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD class=featurestext align="left" valign="top" width="99%"><SCRIPT language=JavaScript> <!-- if( document.currentTopicForm ) { for (i = 0; i < document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.length; i++) { if (document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic[i].value.indexOf("1706") >= 0) { document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.selectedInd ex = i; break; } } } //--> </SCRIPT> Quote:
Originally Posted by traderken (Post 2072984) I got my order form filled out. But I don't think I can lie to them. Im just gonna see if they will let me buy from them even though Im not a member.

StackerKen | 12-13-2009 01:40 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by StrawMan=Corporation (Post 2073067) Im not suggesting anyone lie to them, just filling out the form the way they want.
I know you weren't and I didn't mean to imply that you were I was just Stating how I felt after filling out the form. I will bring the form with me to the Home Storage Center though. :ok:

StrawMan=Corporation | 12-13-2009 07:26 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Update on the LDS food issue: I spoke to a local bishop and unless you are a member of the church the food at the churches </TD><TD class=featurestext width="99%" valign="top" align="left"><SCRIPT language=JavaScript> <!-- if( document.currentTopicForm ) { for (i = 0; i < document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.length; i++) { if (document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic[i].value.indexOf("1706") >= 0) { document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.selectedInd ex = i; break; } } } //--> </SCRIPT><FORM name=frm>Home Storage Centers (For members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.) If I would have seen this page first I would have known. </FORM>http://www.providentliving.org/locat...26-1-4,00.html <TD width="1"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=1></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD class=featurestext width="99%" valign="top" align="left"><SCRIPT language=JavaScript> <!-- if( document.currentTopicForm ) { for (i = 0; i < document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.length; i++) { if (document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic[i].value.indexOf("1706") >= 0) { document.currentTopicForm.currentTopic.selectedInd ex = i; break; } } } //--> </SCRIPT><FORM name=frm><SCRIPT language=JavaScript type=text/JavaScript> <!-- function StringToID(string) { srcStr = string.toUpperCase(); destStr = ""; for (i = 0; i < srcStr.length; i++) { character = srcStr.charAt(i); switch (character) { case "-": destStr = destStr + "h"; break; case " ": destStr = destStr + "+"; break; case ".": destStr = destStr + "p"; break; case '"': destStr = destStr + "q"; break; case "'": destStr = destStr + "u"; break; case "&": destStr = destStr + "a"; break; case ",": destStr = destStr + "c"; break; case "/": destStr = destStr + "s"; break; case "": destStr = destStr + "b"; break; case "#": destStr = destStr + "o"; break; default: destStr = destStr + character; } } return destStr; } function PutDataInURL(URL, data) { for (i = URL.length-1; i > 0; i--) { if (URL.charAt(i) == ",") { break; } } if (i > 0) { CURL = URL.slice(0, i); if (URL.charAt(i-1) != ",") { CURL = CURL + "-"; } CURL = CURL + data + URL.slice(i); return (CURL); } return URL + "?" + data; } function Trim(srcStr) { while (srcStr.charAt(0) == " ") { srcStr = srcStr.substring(1,srcStr.length); } while (srcStr.charAt(srcStr.length-1) == " ") { srcStr = srcStr.substring(0,srcStr.length-1); } return (srcStr); } function Value(obj) { switch (eval(obj + ".type")) { case "text": case "hidden": temp = eval(obj + ".value"); return (temp); case "select-one": index = eval(obj + ".selectedIndex") temp = eval(obj + ".options[" + index + "].value"); return (temp); } return ""; } // --> </SCRIPT> </FORM></TD>

ArizonaGold | 12-13-2009 07:38 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Wow! That's news to me. I know a lot of non-Mormons who have purchased through the centers. I haven't heard of anyone that was turned away. They have all gone there with a Mormon friend, and never were asked if they were members.

StrawMan=Corporation | 12-13-2009 07:51 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Does anyone else see post 85 all messed up ?

WearyTraveler | 12-13-2009 09:34 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I've been looking around but cannot find an LDS food supply. Does anyone know how to locate one in the DC area? I'm near the Dulles airport. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!

StackerKen | 12-13-2009 09:46 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT http://www.providentliving.org/locat...26-1-4,00.html

jc7622 | 12-13-2009 10:13 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT How important is temperature to the long term storage of wheat, beans, rice, etc? What if these itmes were stored in a barn that wasn't climate controlled and experienced temps ranging from freezing up to about 100? Is $25 for a 50# bag or rice or beans a good price or are there cheaper sources out there that I haven't found yet. I get visited frequently by Mormon missionaries. I always BS with them for about an hour and talk about the cool places I have backpacked in Utah. I'm starting to wonder if they have me on their list as a potential convert. Maybe I should see if they can get me access to the store house.

cfcw | 12-20-2009 09:20 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT You can buy wheat,rice, pinto beans, and rolled oats from LDS and have it delivered straight to your door. You do not have to be LDS member to take advantage of this. Food is packed in #10 cans with oxy absorbers ready for thirty year storage. Shipping is built into the price, it's a good deal for those of us that live in areas that don't grow wheat or have a large LDS population. Another advantage is that you can start small, order a box a month (or whatever your budget permits) if you wish, and not be "penalized" for high shipping costs. What I don't care for is the fact the boxes come clearly labeled "food storage", but that's OK. hope this link works:http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs...cg3=&cg4=&cg5=

hoarder | 12-20-2009 09:31 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by jc7622 (Post 2074312) How important is temperature to the long term storage of wheat, beans, rice, etc? What if these itmes were stored in a barn that wasn't climate controlled and experienced temps ranging from freezing up to about 100?.
It should last about 1/5 as long as if it was stored in a constant 65 degree cellar. Even shallow burial, i.e. 2 feet deep with styrofoam over the food would make a huge difference.

StackerKen | 12-20-2009 10:52 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by cfcw (Post 2085670) You can buy wheat,rice, pinto beans, and rolled oats from LDS and have it delivered straight to your door. You do not have to be LDS member to take advantage of this. Food is packed in #10 cans with oxy absorbers ready for thirty year storage. Shipping is built into the price, it's a good deal for those of us that live in areas that don't grow wheat or have a large LDS population. Another advantage is that you can start small, order a box a month (or whatever your budget permits) if you wish, and not be "penalized" for high shipping costs. What I don't care for is the fact the boxes come clearly labeled "food storage", but that's OK. hope this link works:http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs...cg3=&cg4=&cg5=
Thank you very much Great find.:ok: I see " Standard Service (5-15 business days) Is FREE " kinda built in to the cost of the items...but thats ok. Im just getting the wheat. And they have the Best Price I have found online so far

silvertooth | 12-20-2009 02:28 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by cfcw (Post 2085670) You can buy wheat,rice, pinto beans, and rolled oats from LDS and have it delivered straight to your door. You do not have to be LDS member to take advantage of this. Food is packed in #10 cans with oxy absorbers ready for thirty year storage. Shipping is built into the price, it's a good deal for those of us that live in areas that don't grow wheat or have a large LDS population. Another advantage is that you can start small, order a box a month (or whatever your budget permits) if you wish, and not be "penalized" for high shipping costs. What I don't care for is the fact the boxes come clearly labeled "food storage", but that's OK. hope this link works:http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs...cg3=&cg4=&cg5=
Just placed an order. Thanks.:clap2:

StrawMan=Corporation | 12-20-2009 02:56 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Did you happen to notice if they accept a PO Box as a shipping address ? thanks. Quote:
Originally Posted by silvertooth (Post 2086001) Just placed an order. Thanks.:clap2:

silvertooth | 12-20-2009 03:47 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by StrawMan=Corporation (Post 2086031) Did you happen to notice if they accept a PO Box as a shipping address ? thanks.
Didn't notice, sorry.

cfcw | 12-20-2009 04:36 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Mine came via Fedex.

democopy | 12-21-2009 10:53 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by cfcw (Post 2085670) You can buy wheat,rice, pinto beans, and rolled oats from LDS and have it delivered straight to your door. You do not have to be LDS member to take advantage of this. Food is packed in #10 cans with oxy absorbers ready for thirty year storage. Shipping is built into the price, it's a good deal for those of us that live in areas that don't grow wheat or have a large LDS population. Another advantage is that you can start small, order a box a month (or whatever your budget permits) if you wish, and not be "penalized" for high shipping costs. What I don't care for is the fact the boxes come clearly labeled "food storage", but that's OK. hope this link works:http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs...cg3=&cg4=&cg5=
Very good resource

WearyTraveler | 12-22-2009 07:02 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT CFCW - Thanks for the post! I'm looking into it. I live near a distribution center. I'm going to give them a call to see if picking it up reduces the cost. Will post.

StackerKen | 12-22-2009 08:45 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT they charge sales tax on food? but thats ok still not a bad deal

WearyTraveler | 03-02-2010 09:08 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Yesterday I visited the local (Camp Springs, MD) LDS canning facility. Looks like a great deal and pretty simple. I have an appointment to go back and do some serious canning in 2 weeks. The prices even appear cheaper than what I can get at the commissary or Costco! I'll post about the experience after I try it out@

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nickelless | 03-02-2010 09:43 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by hoarder (Post 2071310) I didn't buy any wheat because I didn't know what to do with it. I would think that one should buy rice and beans first before wheat. Wheat isn't as good for you because of the gluten compared to rice and beans. But if you're hungry it's better than nothing. I remember pulling wheat kernels off live wheat as a kid and eating it, I liked it.
I'm only buying rice because of worries about gluten-intolerance among family members. I've done a bit of research and can't seem to find any account of an allergy or sensitivity to rice. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

WearyTraveler | 03-02-2010 09:53 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I bought wheat berries from the LDS site. I also bought a "Wonder Mill." After milling coarsely, I boiled for about 5 minutes, added butter, and it made a great breakfast. My wife likes it with milk and sugar. Whether it is as good for you as other foods, it's pretty good. And keeps you moving!

nickelless | 03-02-2010 10:33 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by WearyTraveler (Post 2207691) I bought wheat berries from the LDS site. I also bought a "Wonder Mill." After milling coarsely, I boiled for about 5 minutes, added butter, and it made a great breakfast. My wife likes it with milk and sugar. Whether it is as good for you as other foods, it's pretty good. And keeps you moving!
But for people with celiac disease--and the more literature I'm reading, the more I'm realizing that tons of people are probably undiagnosed--the tiniest bit of gluten can incapacitate them. Which is why I think a lot of people who are buying wheat could be in for a lot of unforeseen problems at some point.

Merlin | 03-02-2010 10:52 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by nickelless (Post 2207776) But for people with celiac disease--and the more literature I'm reading, the more I'm realizing that tons of people are probably undiagnosed--the tiniest bit of gluten can incapacitate them. Which is why I think a lot of people who are buying wheat could be in for a lot of unforeseen problems at some point.
People have been eating wheat bread for a long, long time (for years and years before I ever heard about food preps.) Anyone who is allergic to gluten knows about it. If the tiniest bit of gluten can incapacitate them, they know all about it already. If, in fact, they have this food allergy, should they not find out about it? Why avoid the staff of life because you "might" have a problem? If you have been eating bread and rolls for years with no problem, I would have no hesitation suggesting that you store wheat berries. I am sure there are people with celiac disease; do they not know who they are?

DuneLurkin | 03-02-2010 11:09 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT I look at it as another part of a well rounded storage program. Sprout it Juice it Grind it for cereal Grind it finer for breads etc. - I calculated about 80 loaves of bread per 5gal bucket Plant it for a crop Also makes a fine barter item.

mouse | 03-03-2010 05:52 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Why did imacannin delete everything? She had good posts and information. Did we run her off?

WearyTraveler | 03-03-2010 08:44 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by nickelless (Post 2207776) But for people with celiac disease--and the more literature I'm reading, the more I'm realizing that tons of people are probably undiagnosed--the tiniest bit of gluten can incapacitate them. Which is why I think a lot of people who are buying wheat could be in for a lot of unforeseen problems at some point.
This is true. However, we all need to make sure that what we store is OK to consume. I believe it's due diligence to check now rather than blindly prep. We've already eaten everything in my storeroom. No one should store items that they can't consume or don't know how to use (weapons, tools, hell - firestarters). I think that a good motto on this board should be DYODD...

gunDriller | 03-03-2010 09:09 AM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 2070693) any common cooking instructions for raw wheat? any additional prepping of the buckets needed after purchase?
sprout them & eat the sprouts. for me this took some experience. at first i was using too much water and it was sprouting, but them getting foul. the trick is using just enough water to sprout them, not enough for the mixture to go foul. i use 2 handfuls of sprouted wheat and a "dash" of water, in a quart baggie. i blow up the baggie with air, and let the wheat sprout. i end up with about 2 servings of sprouted wheat. i've been saute'ing it with cheese, which is good, but in a TSHTF situation i may not have that liberty.

JJ_ | 03-03-2010 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mouse (Post 2208118) Why did imacannin delete everything? She had good posts and information. Did we run her off?
Yep... Cool lady. Miss her:bear_cry:

agmom | 03-03-2010 01:02 PM
Re: Why I bought several buckets of WHEAT Quote:
Originally Posted by mouse (Post 2208118) Why did imacannin delete everything? She had good posts and information. Did we run her off?
I've wondered the same thing. Her posts were both informative and gracious - it's truly a loss to have them deleted.

gunDriller | 03-03-2010 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by agmom (Post 2208712) I've wondered the same thing. Her posts were both informative and gracious - it's truly a loss to have them deleted.
why did she leave ? i never saw anyone harassing her.

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