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Dissipate | 07-30-2007 08:05 AM
Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.) 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Livestock http://baconreport.blogspot.com/2007...st-during.html Stock up now.

Wyldwil | 07-30-2007 08:24 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Thanks. Lists are good. This is from the comments in the link..... Quote:
I think you might want to get yourself a crate or two of claymore mines. Nothing says 'Stay off of my lawn' like -FRONT TOWARD ENEMY-.
Where do I get those???

Dissipate | 07-30-2007 08:36 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 679290) Thanks. Lists are good. This is from the comments in the link..... Where do I get those???
Ye Olde Military Depot? I think that guy is joking. Getting those could set you up for some serious federal charges.

Darkside | 07-30-2007 08:44 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency I'd rather have bear traps all around my property- better to make them suffer ;)

dupontcobb | 07-30-2007 09:13 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 679311) I'd rather have bear traps all around my property- better to make them suffer ;)
:haha::signs8::haha::signs8::haha::signs8: Good list by the way!

mamboni | 07-30-2007 09:27 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency What about condoms and nylon stockings?:D

R MacDonald | 07-30-2007 10:46 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by mamboni (Post 679338) What about condoms and nylon stockings?:D
Nothing bribes occupying soldiers better than booze, smokes, and PORN! :tongue_ma:

Kahlil Gibran | 07-30-2007 12:16 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Wal-Mart prices won't stay low much longer. Much of this stuff is a great investment now. Better to buy it all now then think you can trade your shiny metal for it after tshtf. :applause_ Good post Dissipate!

DodgebyDave | 07-30-2007 12:22 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 679290) Thanks. Lists are good. This is from the comments in the link..... Where do I get those???
http://www.beyondweird.com/cookbook.html :D

Anty Ep | 07-30-2007 12:25 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 679308) Ye Olde Military Depot? I think that guy is joking. Getting those could set you up for some serious federal charges.
but if TSHTF hard enough, raids on those depots will be at the top list of priority for groups of people who are serious about survival and well coordinated. that is why everybody is placing their own kind in the US military now even if nobody really much likes the foreign adventures. Just like Iraq. We toppled the government and everybody went straight for the arms depots. We were running around looking for nonexistent WMDs and failed to "secure the peace." This Paul Bremer guy did more of the same as Commissar of Iraq or whatever his title was.

SAUM | 07-30-2007 05:51 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency " 35. Tuna Fish (in oil)" Why in oil, not water? Did mountain men pack this much stuff?:D

Kahlil Gibran | 07-30-2007 06:00 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by SAUM (Post 679765) " 35. Tuna Fish (in oil)" Why in oil, not water?
http://www.chickenofthesea.com/produ...did=4800009050 Fresh Caught not farmed for 88 cents at Wal-Mart. :smile: my choice

keehah | 07-30-2007 06:10 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Thanks for the list! Quote:
Did mountain men pack this much stuff?
Soon, both Skagway and Dyea were bustling tent cities as bombastic headlines of the gold rush in the contiguous United States spurred men around the country to leave their jobs and family and gain passage up the Inside Passage to Skagway. However, soon it became apparent that many of the prospectors who chose the Chilkoot simply weren't going to survive the arduous terrain and demanding weather, so Canada's North West Mounted Police (now the Royal Canadian Mounted Police) required one ton of gear (enough to supply a prospector for one year) as a requisite for entrance to the B.C. side of the trail. A suggested list of gear from an era-publication<SUP class=reference id=_ref-0>[1]</SUP> is below: 150 lb. bacon 400 lb. flour 25 lb. rolled oats 125 lb. beans 10 lb. tea 10 lb. coffee 25 lb. sugar 25 lb. dried onions 2 lb. dried onions 15 lb. salt 1 lb. pepper 75 lb. dried fruits 8 lb. baking powder 2 lb. soda 1/2 lb. evaporated vinegar 12 oz. compressed soup 1 can mustard 1 tin matches (for four men) Stove for four men Gold pan for each Set granite buckets Large bucket Knife, fork, spoon, cup, and plate Frying pan Coffee and teapot Scythe stone Two picks and one shovel One whipsaw Pack strap Two axes for four men and one extra handle Six 8 inch files and two taper files for the party Draw knife, brace and bits, jack plane, and hammer for party 200 feet three-eights-inch rope 8 lb. of pitch and 5 lb. of oakum for four men Nails, five lbs. each of 6,8,10 and 12 penny, for four men Tent, 10 x 12 feet for four men Canvas for wrapping Two oil blankets to each boat 5 yards of mosquito netting for each man 3 suits of heavy underwear 1 heavy mackinaw coat 2 pairs heavy machinaw trousers 1 heavy rubber-lined coat 1 doz heavy wool socks 1/2 doz heavy wool mittens 2 heavy overshirts 2 pairs heavy snagproof rubber boots 2 pairs shoes 4 pairs blankets (for two men) 4 towels 2 pairs overalls 1 suit oil clothing Several changes of summer clothing Small assortment of medicines This amounted to the fabled "ton of gear" and prospectors ferried the gear from campsites along the trail, slowly moving closer to the headwaters of the Yukon. With all the equipment and supplies being transported, alternative methods, especially those with a little supplemental income, sprouted up. Many purchased pack animals, although that method was more commonly used on the rival White Pass, but a primary and very profitable enterprise came from the Tlingit Indians, the formerly exclusive users of the trail. They hired gear on a per pound rate from campsite to campsite however even their packing service grew antiquated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilkoot_Trail

platinumdude | 07-30-2007 07:07 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency I have lots of cans of chunky soup, chili and stew.

Baphomet Jones | 07-30-2007 08:27 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Anyone else reading the comments to the guy's blog post and thinking about how F'in stupid people are? I don't even know if I'll bother buying the stuff, when SHTF, I'm sure everyone will have at least one item I want. After reading these comments, I figure I'll just go take it, and won't feel bad about it. :banghead: And if anyone resists, I'm doing the world a favor. Someone needs to tend to the gene pool, its long past due for a good skimming.

Dave Thomas | 07-31-2007 11:04 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Anyone have any idea how long white gasoline keeps? I.E. Coleman fuel?

Wyldwil | 07-31-2007 11:06 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency 1) FREEDOM

Dave Thomas | 07-31-2007 11:12 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by DodgebyDave (Post 679506) http://www.beyondweird.com/cookbook.html :D
Oh man I love those old references back to Telenet and Tymnet. Those were the good ol days!

J.D.Rockinfeller | 07-31-2007 11:48 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency ..I began last weekend the task of cache ing stuff in the forest... This fall doesnt look good folks...I made 1 trip a few miles in on foot....thousands of feet in elevation gain.....i was so outta breath i needed another cigar.:smokin:

dupontcobb | 08-01-2007 12:16 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Something else I would add to the list. Sewing needles, thread, fabric (for patching or making new clothes), yarn, knitting and crochet needles. If you have a generator, you could power a sewing machine.

Kahlil Gibran | 08-01-2007 12:20 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by dupontcobb (Post 681288) If you have a generator, you could power a sewing machine.
Attachment 31314 Foot powered

sam | 08-01-2007 12:29 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency isopropyl alcohol (not fer drinkin)

J.D.Rockinfeller | 08-01-2007 12:31 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency I would add hydrogen peroxide to the list ....too many uses to mention.

Unclad Lad | 08-01-2007 02:15 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Anyone have any idea how long white gasoline keeps? I.E. Coleman fuel?
Damn near forever--but it will evaporate if it isn't sealed, and is as explosively flammable as gasoline. I often hear from the teetotalers that they don't need liquor. If you look at a lot of cold remedies you'll find alcohol as a main ingredient. It isn't because drunkeness is a curative--it's because alcohol is a great solvent for a lot of herbs and other drugs. Tinctures need strong alcohol to draw out the active ingredients. Oh, sure, half your neighbors will be self-taught brewers within a year, but are you going to risk your life by ingesting it? The good ones will show themselves eventually, and the bad ones strung up, but if you're looking at an abscessed tooth and you need to extract it without the laudanum... (There isn't a smiley that conveys the fear of the pre-20th century dentist)

skirnir | 08-01-2007 02:19 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency I purchased a whole buttload of paper when Wal-Mart had the back to school sale: notebooks for $0,10/70 pages and $0,30/150 pages. They were out the first time, and they were also out when I left next time :D It would also be wise stock up on any prescription medicine, even if it requires tapping into the black market.

Anty Ep | 08-01-2007 10:17 AM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirnir (Post 681378) It would also be wise stock up on any prescription medicine, even if it requires tapping into the black market.
No, its not a good idea to violate the law and possibly end up in jail, for the ephemeral possibility of "collapse." Thats like trading the bird of your freedom in your hand, for the possibility of a two in the bush, maybe, on the outside chance you'll really need them. The medicines you need are the ones you take and you can just siphon off a supply, but you got to rotate that too. Here is another thing, you could always try asking your doctor. Say, you could even try making friends with your doctor, and figuring out where he lives, so you got a supply if tshtf. Doctors and nurses are major assets in your "survival network." If you are talking about a disruption of more than a month in pharmaceuticals your are talking about something past the usual SHTF scenarios, like, headed on its way to TEOTWAWKI. If you are figgerin you need more than a month laid back than you are thinking Mad Max because a lot of pharmaceutical production is leaner than it used to be because of JIT inventory practices, or so I hear. Even in the Great Depression doctors were working. You are thinking collapse if you think you need more than a month of pharmaceuticals. Btw, the same principle applies to all destructive devices and class III weapons. Dont break the law. If it's a SHTF scenario you dont really need that stuff, and if it's way past that on the way to collapse, you'll figure out how to grab that stuff easy enough.

chewy | 08-01-2007 03:43 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency That's all good stuff to have, but 'disappear first' ? Say a guy is looting a store in a national emergency and he can only carry one big item. I'd think he'd grab food for his family before he'd grab #3, a portable toilet. I'd say food of any kind, guns and ammo, cig's and alcohol, water. Water is the most important but for most people would be down the list.

johnlvs2run | 08-01-2007 04:01 PM
Re: Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy (Post 681940) That's all good stuff to have, but 'disappear first' ? Say a guy is looting a store in a national emergency and he can only carry one big item. I'd think he'd grab food for his family before he'd grab #3, a portable toilet.
Right. Any ol' bush, tree, ditch or clump of grass will do. Food and water come first.

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