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tanner12oz | 09-28-2009 07:53 PM
Anyone In Eastern TN? i know this is a popular bugout spot on here.....im looking at a piece of property in the area and wanted to ask some questions. Cherokee Forest/NC Line area

RJB | 09-28-2009 07:59 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1945126) i know this is a popular bugout spot on here.....im looking at a piece of property in the area and wanted to ask some questions. Cherokee Forest/NC Line area
WNC here. It would be wise to stay on the TN side of the border. Raliegh, the NC capital, is very corrupt an loves regulation and taxes.

Tn...Andy | 09-28-2009 08:01 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Which county, and what do you want to know ?

lhslancers | 09-28-2009 08:03 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by RJB (Post 1945137) WNC here. It would be wise to stay on the TN side of the border. Raliegh, the NC capital, is very corrupt an loves regulation and taxes.
Not a lot of luv for NC here. What do you think about the Wake Forest area Franklin County?

Waylon | 09-28-2009 08:08 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Several here from East Tennessee (the State of Franklin). TN Andy and Mtn Man are the experienced elders and can likely answer any question you may have about the area.

RJB | 09-28-2009 08:11 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by lhslancers (Post 1945147) Not a lot of luv for NC here. What do you think about the Wake Forest area Franklin County?
I've been in Asheville for 2 years. I'm still learning the place. I'm really a Missouri Ozark hillbilly displaced because my wife got homesick.

tanner12oz | 09-28-2009 08:12 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1945143) Which county, and what do you want to know ?
carter county overall vibe basically...like minded gim folks? crime? any industry or employment? workable land? suggested crops?

lhslancers | 09-28-2009 08:17 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by RJB (Post 1945167) I've been in Asheville for 2 years. I'm still learning the place. I'm really a Missouri Ozark hillbilly displaced because my wife got homesick.
Dude you're about 4 hours west of Wake Forest.

tanner12oz | 09-28-2009 08:18 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? ashville is the hipster capital of the south

mtnman | 09-28-2009 08:27 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? East Tennessee? It's horrible place to live, It rains in the summer, the leaves fall off the trees in the fall, it's full of self sustaining hillbillies, Ya have to have one leg shorter than the other just to walk on the land, clear liquid stuff runs out of the cracks in the rocks(you can drink it though and it don't taste bad), the roads are all twisty, the damn Oak and Hickory trees are full of rats with furry tails, take my advice and stay far away from that hell hole!!!!!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Just kidding, what do you need to know?

RJB | 09-28-2009 08:33 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by lhslancers (Post 1945181) Dude you're about 4 hours west of Wake Forest.
Yeah but Raliegh's tentacles reach us here... :)

tanner12oz | 09-28-2009 08:39 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1945205) East Tennessee? It's horrible place to live, It rains in the summer, the leaves fall off the trees in the fall, it's full of self sustaining hillbillies, Ya have to have one leg shorter than the other just to walk on the land, clear liquid stuff runs out of the cracks in the rocks(you can drink it though and it don't taste bad), the roads are all twisty, the damn Oak and Hickory trees are full of rats with furry tails, take my advice and stay far away from that hell hole!!!!!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Just kidding, what do you need to know?
kinda just the overall vibe....gim mentality? ability to get a burger flipping job somewhere? conservative values? crime? workable land? would be the carter county area...cherokee forest

Tn...Andy | 09-29-2009 08:03 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1945172) carter county overall vibe basically...like minded gim folks? crime? any industry or employment? workable land? suggested crops?
Like minded gim folks ? There are very few anywhere. I do know of two members of this board that live in that county. crime ? not anything like big cities....there is some, mostly drug based and domestic issues. employment ? tough is my guess right now....the figures are probably out on the net somewhere, but I'd guess the unemployment rate is well above national average right now. workable land ? Well, this is Appalachian into Blue Ridge mtn land...not Kansas, Toto...it grows hardwood trees the best, and you get to grub out little patches that grow some other crops ( tobacco on small plots was the big cash crop in years past, but that has faded )....some areas more suited to traditional ag than others ( Greene county has way more farms and less mountains ).....so it really depends on WHAT you plan to work and how much. If you plan to make a living off farming, you're probably going to have to grow specialty crops. I'm personally looking at building some commercial greenhouses to raise off season tomatoes.

mtnman | 09-29-2009 09:30 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? I'm in Claiborne County that's west about 70 miles of Carter. Around here the crime in not too bad, mostly domestics and a few burglaries. There are no jobs. The county next to me (Hancock) has a 20% unemployment rate. There are quite a few "Right thinkers" in Claiborne and Hancock Counties, most are self-sufficient and don't venture into town much. During the last Election Sneedville (Hancock county) was plastered in Ron Paul signs, I don't think I saw any other political signs anywhere. You can make a living here, I have a friend that has a 15 acre farm, he grows organic vegetables (garlic, sweet potatoes, carrots, tomatoes, onions), he does very well. He sells at the farmers market in Oak Ridge. Another friend has a large truck farm and he also does well selling local vegetables (Tomatoes, peppers, cabbage, lopes, beans). There are almost NO Mexicans here, we don't allow them, LOL. You can find farmland for around $1500 an acre and mountain land around $800 an acre.

Goldfinger007 | 09-29-2009 09:54 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? I grew up in Greeneville (the Capitol of the State of Franklin). Love the Cherokee National Forest. I have a good real friend who is a estate broker in Greeneville, if you're interested in the Tennessee side then PM me.

TTAZZMAN | 09-29-2009 12:06 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1945936) There are almost NO Mexicans here, we don't allow them, LOL. You can find farmland for around $1500 an acre and mountain land around $800 an acre.
SW Missouri.......a couple of years ago armadillo's (possums on the half shell) started migrating in from the south.....Seems like the Illegals followed them My point is do you have any armadillo's yet?.......if not they just havent gotten there yet We dont allow armadillo's or illegals either!!! If only armadillo's could hang sheet rock and lay brick for half price!!!!

Armed.peasant | 09-30-2009 12:02 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? To followup on TN Andy's post. The unemployement rate is in the low to Mid. teens in Carter County. Not a lot of jobs around here, I know Tractor Supply in Elizabethton (Carter Carter County Seat) has been looking for help. Land is no longer cheap here, but it is cheaper that it was a year ago.

Unclad Lad | 10-03-2009 12:37 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
workable land ? Well, this is Appalachian into Blue Ridge mtn land...not Kansas, Toto...it grows hardwood trees the best, and you get to grub out little patches that grow some other crops ( tobacco on small plots was the big cash crop in years past, but that has faded )....some areas more suited to traditional ag than others ( Greene county has way more farms and less mountains ).....so it really depends on WHAT you plan to work and how much. If you plan to make a living off farming, you're probably going to have to grow specialty crops.
The rain might be too much, but it sounds like wine country, especially some of those rocky, flinty mountainsides.

Tn...Andy | 10-03-2009 06:14 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? It actually could be wine country....it reminds me a lot of the Rhine valley area of Germany. I actually had a couple acres of Seyval wine grapes out at one time,( early 80's ) growing for a local winery. Tennessee has a "farm wine" law that allows wineries too make up to 25,000 gallons ( last I knew of ), but it must be sold AT the winery....which means ALL your customers have to come to you, and that's a hard business to get started...( winery CAN sell off the farm, but has to go thru a liquor distributor...politics of alcohol...and there is very little profit, nor do the distributors want to take on ANOTHER brand, especially a rinky dink little guy )....the one I sold to failed, mostly because it was located in a really HARD to find location, and got no traffic.....so I removed the trellis system, bushhogged off the grapes and let a few cows keep the grass mowed. The Tn farm wine law requires wineries to buy TN grapes first, if available....with the idea that it would support TN agriculture.....BUT since there are hundreds of grape varieties, all they have to do to circumvent the law is simply say "Mr Commissioner of AG: I want to make wine out of "X" variety, but nobody in TN is growing that...."( it takes 3-5 years to even get a crop started ) and order a tanker truck of juice from NY State grape region for about 2.50/gal delivered and pumped in their tanks.....and the guy out here growing grapes would be stuck with a big investment of time/money and a crop he can't give away. 2.50/gallon juice is about the equivalent of 25-30 cents/lb on grapes ( takes about 12-15lbs to juice out a gallon )....and it's REALLY hard to make money on a few acres at 30 cents/lb. In NY State, they raise thousands of acres at a time, use mechanical harvesting, etc....they can do juice REALLY cheap... We did it as an experiment and a tax deduction. We had just bought our place, and needed a healthy loss ( and it was....ahahahaaa ) to offset the interest we were paying....so the winery closing and our paying off the farm happened about the same time.....thus the twilight to our grape growing days. IF a guy wanted to start a winery in TN, the way to go would be to get a GOOD high traffic location, set out a couple acres of grapes "for show" ( and let the birds have every one of them ) and bring the NY State tankers in after dark to fill the brewing tanks.....sell the tourists "MADE IN TN" wine.....which it would be.....ahahahaaaa

mtnman | 10-03-2009 05:20 PM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1952659) The rain might be too much, but it sounds like wine country, especially some of those rocky, flinty mountainsides.
A friend of mine whom passed away a couple of years ago had a Winery (Clinch Mountain Winery) just down the road from me. He told me that prior to WW2 East Tennessee had many vineyards and the grapes were comparable to grapes from southern France.

Unclad Lad | 10-04-2009 01:57 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Quote:
IF a guy wanted to start a winery in TN, the way to go would be to get a GOOD high traffic location, set out a couple acres of grapes "for show" ( and let the birds have every one of them ) and bring the NY State tankers in after dark to fill the brewing tanks.....sell the tourists "MADE IN TN" wine....
Not mash, but juice; sounds like moonshining nonetheless.

Goldfinger007 | 10-04-2009 09:18 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? Winery? WFT, this is East Tennessee. The only thing to make here is moonshine and Popcorn Sutton, RIP, was the King. Just down the road from where I grew up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPuWX7d7yEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPuWX7d7yEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5mW2QF6H4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5mW2QF6H4

sneak | 10-04-2009 11:15 AM
Re: Anyone In Eastern TN? I live in southern Greene County, not far from the Cherokee NF and the NC state line. There are a few of us like minded folks scattered around East Tennessee. :wink:

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