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Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-11-2009 10:15 PM
Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Sorta' where I'm at. Got a real nice SKS I should disassemble and clean, but can't get motivated. At all. Same with some relatively new history books: lots of time to read them, but they just sit on the shelf. I should go to the gym and belong to a good one, but am just not into it. Plenty of work to do in the home garden, but I do some and then quit. New quarter at UCLA coming in another month and I have a rare opportunity to take a language class I've waited two years for, but for whatever reason I just don't feel too fired up anymore. Lots of sweet and attractive females from 22-44 around who would like some or more of my time, but for some reason I'm just not into it. Just tired all the time, mainly. I seem to feel best just hanging around the house, doing little to nothing, enjoying the quiet and sleeping. I don't sleep much during the work week, just on the weekends, pretty much. Not sure why. On a positive note, work at the school is fun again, now that our MEChA fanatic/La Raza-oriented principal has been fired. He was an imbecile. Anyone had phases like this, or are these things symptomatic of a possible health problem? I guess I could see a doctor but anymore making an appointment and waiting around for them is a pain in the bum, and who needs the hassle? I guess I can't even get motivated for that. Sound familiar to anyone, or am I f'ed up?

lhslancers | 08-11-2009 10:18 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Sounds like mild depression. Seen a doctor?

Maddie | 08-11-2009 10:35 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Yeah, I'm in a phase like that right now. I hate it. I work a lot of long hours, and it never ends. I think I'm just plain burning out.

AgAuGal | 08-11-2009 10:38 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? yep, going through something similar.

ruprick | 08-11-2009 10:41 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? This happens to everyone once in a while.....don't bother with doctor visit....next thing you know you'll be on some silly mind altering drug. Just get through your vegatative funk....don't do anyting for a while...just get by....it will pass. You'll be back to your old self in a few weeks. If it lasts for more than 1 month...start to reboot yourself....life is pretty much what you make of it. Sometimes you just need to rest yourself and start fresh again. Pick a brand new activity that you don't know jackshit about and jump into it.....this will give your mind something brand new to learn and do....make it a small hobby with an end goal.....like learn how to catch and clean pan fish.....or buy a cheap shortwave radio ....or repaid a small engine....fix something around the house....learn to sweat pipes together and make a plumbing repair.....repair your tile...build something....learn to can food or brew beer or make wine....just pick a little project you can learn something new on....

Merlin | 08-11-2009 10:43 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by lhslancers (Post 1864014) Sounds like mild depression. Seen a doctor?
I think that depression has something to do with it. But I doubt that my doctor has anything at all to do with it. I have to trim a shrub along side the house. And I have a patio with crumbling clay pots that need cleaning up. I also have a back door with a bottom seal that needs replacing. I'm having major trouble getting motivated. I have no idea where these problems are going. But I can tell you with complete certainty that my doctor is no part of the solution. When I told my doctor about it, he asked me if I wanted him to treat me for the problem. I declined. Pills aren't the solution.

11S11ver | 08-11-2009 10:45 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? You have collapse fatigue. I imagine all do to some extent. That's why it's more important than ever that you MAKE yourself go to that gym and clean that weapon and do everything else that you don't feel like doing. Sloth is evil. The things you aren't doing today you will be longing for soon enough when TSHTF. :fan:

lhslancers | 08-11-2009 10:49 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1864049) This happens to everyone once in a while.....don't bother with doctor visit....next thing you know you'll be on some silly mind altering drug. Just get through your vegatative funk....don't do anyting for a while...just get by....it will pass. You'll be back to your old self in a few weeks. If it lasts for more than 1 month...start to reboot yourself....life is pretty much what you make of it. Sometimes you just need to rest yourself and start fresh again.
What's wrong with silly mind altering drugs? :biggrin: This is the price you pay for not following the path of the sheeple. I suggest you start at age 22 and work your way up to 44 Hive. Slowly as Avalon will suggest.:ok:

Drumblebum | 08-11-2009 10:50 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? I've been going through the same thing lately... making sure I keep up on eating well and taking my nutritional supplements without fail helps. It's just the blues brought on by mild burnout. If you have the time, try to get out and do something that takes some risk and is new. The GF and I went with some friends to a "clothing-optional" beach for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Had a blast, and the regulars there were very friendly and cool. It was an invigorating experience that got me out of the funk that was setting in on me. Gotta get out of the rut... it takes less effort than you might think.

Gold Rules | 08-11-2009 10:50 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? I know how ya feel my brother .... Tomorrow I am going to dig out a stump that is in the way of progress ( it is going to be the worst day of that stumps life ) & then I will feel much better :RockOn: Time to kick ass & take names .....you will feel a whole lot better ....... ohhhhhhhh BTW .......a hot lady helps toooooooo:yes: remember less ............is more..........:bull-smile::23_30_104:

esoteric | 08-11-2009 10:52 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? some xanax or prozac oh to fix you right up.:sarc:

Drumblebum | 08-11-2009 10:58 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by esoteric (Post 1864065) some xanax or prozac oh to fix you right up.:sarc:
Yes it will, especially if you want to develop a nice palsy-like tremor and drool...

MaxGravy | 08-11-2009 11:09 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Depression funk, imo. Do something good for someone who needs help. Get some sunshine. Go for a long walk in an unfamiliar place. Eat a bunch of fresh fruit and veggies. Try to think/concentrate on the positive things in your life. This too shall pass. :yippee:

shades2 | 08-11-2009 11:51 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Probably just a virus, eat more fish and vege. Take vitamins if necessary. Sometimes you just need rest, so listen to your body. I had less than 2.5 hours sleep last night due to working late... then got up at 6am to go to work again... I hate doing that sort of thing, as I'm one of those people that needs 8 - 8.5 hours sleep a night. If I consistently get little sleep or disturbed sleep, I get grumpy, then I get .. well you get the picture... Otherwise, you have to tell your brain that it's being stupid, when it tries to de-motivate you, and just power through it. When you collapse of exhaustion, it's your body's way of telling you to take a rest or die. :)

Fullpower | 08-11-2009 11:57 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? You are describing classic depression. The way out is to concsiously, intentionally CHANGE your regime. If you smoke a lot of weed, STOP. If you don't... Maybe try a toke, if it is legal in your domain. If you dick around on the internet all the time, DO something else for a change. Go for a long walk, play with a dog.... Sit in the park, talk to a stranger, play a game of chess.... Basicly, the operative theme is to break out of the rut, change your viewpoint, act like some one else, and thus find the other side of yourself. Best of luck to you.

scyth | 08-12-2009 12:05 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? All - Alvin Toffler hit it right on the head in 1970. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock Sound famiiar? The other part of this is that you will Literally have to re-create yourself multiple times During your lifetime. But this is not new news. scyth

Goldhedge | 08-12-2009 12:08 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Best way to get out of a funk is to volunteer your time helping folks less fortunate than yourself. Try a nursing home, or maybe there's a program to drive lunches to shut-ins? Volunteer at an old folks home... I just had an old friend of 30 years drop by. He had a stroke 4 years ago. It gave me and the wife pause to be thankful we can do what we can do. He talks - it was a right brain stroke - labored, but intelligible. He walks with a cane. His left leg is in a prosthesis to keep his ankle from bending lest he miss-step and break that ankle - which would incapacitate him. He drives an automatic with a bar that allows him to use the turn signal with his right hand. His left arm is quite useless. Everything he does takes longer. He was a fabulous stringed harp player....

Dave Thomas | 08-12-2009 12:11 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Well when your worried about the world coming to an end those things shouldn't interest you at all. It's gonna be OK. Of course you'll have a thousand people tell you that you'll be bleeding from the eyeballs if you don't heed their advice. Good luck.

GoldWampum | 08-12-2009 12:28 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Lots of sweet and attractive females from 22-44 around who would like some or more of my time, but for some reason I'm just not into it.
Whoa. This IS serious. I didn't expect to see that one on the list. You are letting yourself drift into a depression Hive. Don't do it. You control that. Take a weekend at the mountains or the ocean. Listen to a stream or the surf. Whatever makes you peaceful. Take little with you and leave your mind at home. Just be. Soak it in. When you get back, you will have a new perspective. It's important that you don't overload on all the distractions. Get back and decide what you can do something about and what you can't. Then get some things done that affect your life, one at a time. Have a good week of problem solving. It doesn't have to be a lot, just progress. Once you have a couple/few things done, find one of those 22-24 year olds and have a one night stand. Take her to breakfast in the morning on her way home. When I have done this, I would pick a nice breakfast place in her neck of the woods and encourage her to order something she will really enjoy. You know, in case it happens again. :biggrin: EDIT Oh, and make sure you get that gun cleaned as one of the items when you get back.

Horn | 08-12-2009 12:32 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? 1 Attachment(s) Careful sleeping too much, if it progresses further you'll could become one of "them".

buff01 | 08-12-2009 01:00 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Time for a vacation Hive. This too shall pass.

CDUBS | 08-12-2009 01:20 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1864010) Lots of sweet and attractive females from 22-44 around who would like some or more of my time, but for some reason I'm just not into it.
I know this might sound pretty F'd up, but if you dont mind could you get their #'s for me?

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-12-2009 01:55 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Thanks for the input, it's appreciated. I was a little surprised to learn that some of my peers are going through this type of phase, too. I'm comforted to discover that I am not alone. All of this may indeed be collapse fatigue, or burnout, or lack of rest. Not sure. I put in for a weekend off from the 2nd job so I can escape as per the above suggestions, perhaps to Santa Barbara or somewhere else along the central coast. I need to plan. Meanwhile, I am drinking V8 (yuck!) to up the veggie intake, will get some vitamins, and am reconsidering the Fall Quarter school plans. I may just leave all that academic pressure for some other year. Passing up an opportunity I've waited a few years for is a bummer, but I'm starting to see that it may be for the best. I need to think about it a little more, though. A tough call... My loss of romantic interest in females may be a by-product of the divorce, which is dragging into year two with no end in sight. The whole process serves as a sort of buzz-kill where ladies are concerned, you know? A disincentive to adventures in nakedness, kind of. Anyway...

Unclad Lad | 08-12-2009 02:39 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Pharmaceuticals aren't necessarily bad. Mind you, most of the folks who have made them permanent additions don't need to, but a short course of an antidepressant might help. Don't let them put you on the latest wonder pill; find something that has been tested on millions of Americans and has proven itself. There are a lot of good suggestions here--I'm not dismissing them. But sometimes a little more exercise, or volunteering, or whatever can't be done. Ruprick's idea of just riding it out is a good one, if it doesn't go on too long or get worse. And this site being what it is, there are a lot who have opted to go alternative routes with varying degrees of success. But don't be afraid to going down the prescription route, if nothing else brings you through.

BeeYourself | 08-12-2009 02:51 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? OK, **** the Mayans! This dull drum period we are all experiencing is like pain +. About a year ago, or when the markets became officially disrupted most of us went into a void of WTF just happened? So we are grasping for the very straws that we predicted would disappear. Holy green ghosts shaggy! Everyone has become a zombie. We are acting as if nothing happened when everything has ****ing happened. We use facebook when we know its a fed owned site. We shop at the mall when we have no money to buy anything. We watch the news for some semblance of entertainment and confirmation. We look at girls and see their utter fakeness and we want more. Unfortunately there is no more. We are in a holding pattern. Waiting. There is nothing worse than living in western society and having to wait for something. What do I do to pass the time? Wouldn't you like to know. Cheers.

BeeYourself | 08-12-2009 02:53 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Pharmaceuticals aren't necessarily bad.
**** you! asshat!

Curtman | 08-12-2009 03:22 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? You go to a doctor and get a diagnoses of depression and you will not have to worry about cleaning any guns for long, you will not be aloud to own them. Get off your lazy ass and do something productive. You got plenty to do and you will feel much better about everything when they start to get done. You also may think about getting a break from all these gloom and doom bozos here on GIM, a man can only absorb so much creosote before it manifest into a carcinogen in the body. Take a break or just read the happy and informative stuff. Things around here can get you down and nothing is worse than the constant bickering from trolls that you cannot possibly change an opinion of. You want to see how polluted you are? Try and lay down and think of nothing. When you can't do that for hours you will then realize how polluted your mind has become from toxins. Skip it man. My advice, don't forget to live. :s1:

BeeYourself | 08-12-2009 04:45 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
You want to see how polluted you are? Try and lay down and think of nothing. When you can't do that for hours you will then realize how polluted your mind has become from toxins.
The truth has just been spoken here. Rare indeed. Most people cant do this for seconds much less hours. Capitulate!

smilershouse | 08-12-2009 05:03 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Clinical depression, Get out before you slide too far down the funnel Hive me old mate. Many more people suffer depression, if only they knew. Depression is the most insidious illness going. I would say, that as an estimate, 95% of all mental basket cases, denied that anything was wrong. At least you are blessed with being a honest one, and have recognised immediately that something is not quite right, and that things have changed that you feel unhappy about. You are one of the courageous ones. Give yourself a BIG pat on the head for being honest with yourself. I suffered it once, and it was one of the worst episodes of my life. The more I held onto what was wrong with me, and beating myself up in consequence, the worst it got. I attempted to try and think my way out of the thing, and it just got worse, and life got gloomier. Eventually, I went to my GP, and he was surprised to see me. He thought I had died because I hadn't been to see him for such a long time. The last diagnoses that I had expected from the Doc's analysis, was depression. Depression is a lot more complex than a simple mind-over-matter-attitude, when depression becomes pathological. Depression is about a biochemical change in the bodily functions. And the first function that suffers throughout this change, is a 'healthy' hormonal activity. Serotonin is the happy hormone in men. Serotonin lights a man's fire. Dark choc is laced with it. The trouble is, the BGL/BSL readings. There are a myriad of compensatory measures for depression, - as both our society, and economic outlook has proved. A rampant rise in crime, obesity, greed, gambling, drugs, suicide,type 2 diabetes, and the like. Such people believe that nothing is amiss. So OK, lets recap. You say you have 22-44 year old women chasing you but are disinterested. It is hardly surprising given the fact that your libido is as flat as the floor, so expressing yourself sexually is out of the question. You have also stated that you prefer to lounge around and sleep. There are jobs to do, but you can't be arsed to do them. Again, suggesting that you get off your backside, is only going to pile on the guilty feeling you are currently experiencing about yourself. So forget about forcing in doing something active. More guilt. More coals These point in the direction that you are currently going through a transition stage that is contradictory. A readjustment process that is unfamiliar to your awareness. Be kind to yourself. Whatever you do, be kind to who you are. I am only able to offer you a perspective from my own personal experiences. You can either: 1. Consciously go with the flow and accept the adage that they way things are is the way things are, in the hope that life gets better through unconditional acceptance. OR 2. You did say that (open quote)"On a positive note, work at the school is fun again, now that our MEChA fanatic/La Raza-oriented principal has been fired. He was an imbecile."(closed quote). Maybe he was an imbecile, however, not too much of one it appears, in which to devastate your personality. I do hope this post help you Hive. You contribute well to this forum. My kindest thoughts. SH

smilershouse | 08-12-2009 06:40 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Or, St John's Wort.

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RichG | 08-12-2009 08:11 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quit reading this board!!! Take a break. Get in your car ... point it in one direction and drive for a few days. NO RADIO ... just you and your head. The 'road' is a great place to sort things out. Drift for a while ... visit friends. Did I say NO RADIO. :smokin:

gpond | 08-12-2009 08:28 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Hive, small point here. If you consider drinking V8 as upping your vegetable intake, this is a serious clue that you are not eating enough vegetables. If the nude beach is out, try a less ambitious trip to the local farmer's market. It will get you outside. Wander around and look at the food offered until something looks really good. Buy it, and take it home and eat it. Do something nice for you. And remember, V8 is not a vegetable. We all get the funk thing sometimes. Don't compound the problem by worrying too much about it. It will pass, and may not mean a thing. It is chemical. Maybe at the farmers market your body will tell you what you are missing, and you will eat it, and enjoy! Me, I love the fresh green beans, not the canned crap. Steam some fresh green beans, they are crunchy and delicious. Your body may need something else. Investigate at the farmers market and see if your body will tell you what it needs. I repeat: V8 is not a vegetable. Best wishes, gpond

Avalon | 08-12-2009 08:35 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? See a Doctor and get some blood work and a physical done. That does not mean you have to take drugs. It just means you can rule out any obvious physical causes and work on your emotional and personal doldrums.. When I get in the doldrums like that I know its time for something new in my life.. Sometimes you have to force it at first.. I think people on this board need to be very careful about telling people to avoid Doctors all together. We had a valued member CG who went to the ER a few weeks ago. His condition would have been fatal had he not. More people die from blood clots then combined , cancer, Aids and traffic fatalities. If he had listened to the GIM crowd he would be dead or had a major stroke. Doctors have their place. For me that place is to take advantage of diagnostic testing so you know what you are dealing with. Then you fix it yourself if you can. I know of no natural cures that will dissolve a serious blood clot in the lung. There are many herbs and supplements that might help stop on from forming in the leg and then traveling but once one is there is Dr or die time..

Dude | 08-12-2009 08:37 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1864329) Meanwhile, I am drinking V8 (yuck!) to up the veggie intake,
Add tobasco to V8. Perks you up. I buy 12 oz. (whoops, 11.5, those bastards) cans for work by the case. 3 a day.

PlatinumBlonde | 08-12-2009 08:42 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Sounds like you may have a thyroid problem.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-12-2009 08:44 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by gpond (Post 1864519) try a less ambitious trip to the local farmer's market. It will get you outside. Wander around and look at the food offered until something looks really good. Buy it, and take it home and eat it. Do something nice for you. And remember, V8 is not a vegetable.
An excellent idea, and we have two good ones very near here. I am going today! P.S.: since V8 is not a vegetable, what's the benefit people speak of in drinking it, or is there any?

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-12-2009 08:45 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude (Post 1864525) Add tobasco to V8. Perks you up. I buy 12 oz. (whoops, 11.5, those bastards) cans for work by the case. 3 a day.
3/day? Geez, it's all I can do to down 1/day. Tastes terrible (but I like the Tabasco idea)...

Maxine | 08-12-2009 09:09 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? I agree with Avalon and Platinum Blonde, get blood work done. It could be a low thyroid, and as a man they are less likely to check you for this than a woman, especially if you are under 40. When you do so do not just accept 'normal' as a result, ask for the figures. Also consider Hemochromatosis, which I have recently discovered I have. For over a year I have been in exactly the same sort of state as you describe. I can see what needs to be done, but have no energy to do it. Hemochromatosis is a very under diagnosed condition where you are unable to rid yourself of iron and it builds up in your system - causing hypothyroidism, depression and chronic fatigue. It is a genetic condition and if you are of Celtic or Nordic origin - or worse still, a cross of both, as I am - you are more likely to have it. Rule out the physical possibilities before assuming it is depression. Though stress related depression in any GIMer is hardly surprising. Furthermore what about Lyme Disease? Been bitten by any ticks?

Avalon | 08-12-2009 09:17 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxine (Post 1864562) I agree with Avalon and Platinum Blonde, get blood work done. It could be a low thyroid, and as a man they are less likely to check you for this than a woman, especially if you are under 40. When you do so do not just accept 'normal' as a result, ask for the figures. Also consider Hemochromatosis, which I have recently discovered I have. For over a year I have been in exactly the same sort of state as you describe. I can see what needs to be done, but have no energy to do it. Hemochromatosis is a very under diagnosed condition where you are unable to rid yourself of iron and it builds up in your system - causing hypothyroidism, depression and chronic fatigue. It is a genetic condition and if you are of Celtic or Nordic origin - or worse still, a cross of both, as I am - you are more likely to have it. Rule out the physical possibilities before assuming it is depression. Though stress related depression in any GAMer is hardly surprising. Furthermore what about Lyme Disease? Been bitten by any ticks?
Maxine, Hemochromatosis causes a whole lots worse then the above.. Its time to get moving girl!!!! Im working the next few days and will ask the lab if there is a home system so you can check you own iron levels. They have got to get some iron off you NOW!!! It can cause heart attack and stroke.. Your blood probably looks like motor oil with a 100, 000 miles on it.

Maxine | 08-12-2009 09:21 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalon (Post 1864570) Maxine, Hemochromatosis causes a whole lots worse then the above.. Its time to get moving girl!!!! Im working the next few days and will ask the lab if there is a home system so you can check you own iron levels. They have got to get some iron off you NOW!!! It can cause heart attack and stroke.. Your blood probably looks like motor oil with a 100, 000 miles on it.
Thanks, now I feel like an unserviced Land Rover! I'll email you.

Drumblebum | 08-12-2009 09:26 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1864355) Pharmaceuticals aren't necessarily bad.
Yes, they are. There are million routes to take before going that road. His funk is not caused by a lack of pharmaceuticals, so why try to fix it that way? If Hive knows what is good for him he will reject Big Pharma's "solutions" in this matter...

Avalon | 08-12-2009 09:26 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxine (Post 1864577) Thanks, now I feel like an unserviced Land Rover! I'll email you.
Well you could use an oil change!!! :s15:

mayhem | 08-12-2009 10:12 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalon (Post 1864583) Well you could use an oil change!!! :s15:
Same here with a touch of polycythemia. Just had two pints removed in 12 days. (thick, dark and brown...ug) Feeling chipper now. Seems this is mandatory for me every 9 to 12 months.

NotTheOne | 08-12-2009 10:19 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Try getting up 1 hour earlier each day and go for a leisurely walk of 20 minutes or so. An early morning walk does wonders. Give you a new outlook. Add a little vodka to the V8. Xanax, actually the generic equivalent (don't know the name) works well if not abused. The generic stuff is quite easy to get from your doctor. Most will write you 30 days worth if you ask. Just take HALF the dose on the bottle. And use it only when you feel your worst. But mostly get out and do something.

Avalon | 08-12-2009 10:23 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 1864635) Same here with a touch of polycythemia. Just had two pints removed in 12 days. (thick, dark and brown.us) Feeling chipper now. Seems this is mandatory for me every 9 to 12 months.
you and Maxine need to correspond.. Im worried about her. Her lovely Canadian healthcare system seems to be dragging this out forever, How many months now Maxi? We were thinking leeches.. Im serious Im glad you are feeling better though. The last think you need is blood like old motor oil gumming up the works!!

gpond | 08-12-2009 11:14 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Hey Hive, I was funnin' you a little about the V8. Nothing wrong with V8 as far as I know, I drink one every day though I prefer the spicy V8 which can be a little more difficult to find. However, that said, when I hear a fellow saying that he is drinking a V8 to make up for too few vegetables, well... it isn't too far a leap to conclude that guy probably isn't eating enough vegetables. I have been there, bud. I do pay attention to what I'm "attracted to" in the vegetable section. There is a belief out there that your body knows what you need to eat - maybe it is a bunch of hooey. Primative man didn't have nutrition labels to read. Anyway it is fun. Some days a certain kind of lettuce looks fantastic. Another day it may be the oranges, or plums look awsome. Go with it. It is fun and there may even be something to it. Anyway, it is doing something nice for yourself. You sound like a guy who is driven. gpond :rose: PS. V8 is not a vegetable, repeat after me. :biggrin:

keehah | 08-12-2009 11:40 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? We monkeys want more. http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/...good-that.html Quote:
''However, thinking about one positive thing that had happened the day before appears to have been by far the most effective technique. Compared to those in the control group, this quick and simple procedure provided an additional 15 per cent boost in happiness.''
Since your off to the market today, clean that thing tomorrow and think about it the day after. Cheers;

stranger | 08-12-2009 12:09 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Funk...blues...depression...whatever...we all go through it from time to time. Use some of your own Dr Hive medicine. Apply some of the things we talk about on a national scale to your own personal load of bricks. "If you saw Atlas,...if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater the effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders--what would you tell him to do?" "I … don't know. What … could he do? What would you tell him?" "To shrug." Same goes for the load you are carrying too, bud. Put it all down for a while. Do something just for you, something you might want to do, but would never make nor take the time to do normally. The world won't burn down while you have a little fun. And if it does, then you won't have those same old burdens to pick up again.

shinylid | 08-12-2009 01:00 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Start exercising- weight lifting in particular. Take a break from your chores and get to lifting. I feel this way quite a bit myself. When it starts getting bad is usually when I haven't exercised in a while. Pay attention to what your eating too. Empty calories like fast food or high glycemic stuff will make you crash. I find that when I let shit pile up and there's just too much that needs to be done, I will have to start a daily list. Start small and just get one thing done a day. You may find that after you get that one thing done you will actually feel like starting on the next thing. Most important of all: Don't be hard on yourself. Take it easy and be positive. :ok:

Banjo | 08-12-2009 02:44 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1864355) But don't be afraid to going down the prescription route, if nothing else brings you through.
There's a lot of good advice here, but this isn't part of it. Don't fall into the prescription trap. Prescription drugs should be avoided like the plague. If you REALLY want to get messed up, then go for the prescription drugs. Otherwise try the other things like exercise, camping, road tripping and young girls and I think that you'll find a way to snap your funk. I think the fact that you recognize it and are looking for a way out of it says a lot. You'll be fine in the end, it's just a matter of breaking the present patterns. Best of luck with it.

____hoot____ | 08-12-2009 02:45 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Have you lost your morning hard-ons? If so, your problem is physical not mental. Yep, don't be hard on yourself. I personally think we are all being poisoned. Look at all the reams of ads for male "enhansement" out there! There is a major major problem with males. It is believed that the bi-sphenol A in plastics and coatings on the inside of "tin" cans has caused the 80% reduction in male sperm counts recently; whatever else it is causeing with sex drive is anybodies guess. I also am of the opinion that we are being dosed with some very nasty things with the chemtrails.

gunDriller | 08-12-2009 03:07 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1864010) Just tired all the time, mainly. I seem to feel best just hanging around the house, doing little to nothing, enjoying the quiet and sleeping. I don't sleep much during the work week, just on the weekends, pretty much. Not sure why. On a positive note, work at the school is fun again, now that our MEChA fanatic/La Raza-oriented principal has been fired. He was an imbecile. Anyone had phases like this, or are these things symptomatic of a possible health problem? I guess I could see a doctor but anymore making an appointment and waiting around for them is a pain in the bum, and who needs the hassle? I guess I can't even get motivated for that. Sound familiar to anyone, or am I f'ed up?
you haven't lost interest in \/ , have you ? http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_imp...AT%20FOUND.JPG (assuming you're a guy). i think many aspects of modern society (high tech, dishonest business', being uprooted because of job changes, fluoride in the water, chemicals in your food) are all capable of measurably screwing up your body, including your endocrine system and your brain chemicals, such as dopamine & serotonin. as far as CREATIVE inspiration, that can come & go. as far as normal healthy living, i think there's a lot to be said for exercise. 2 times a day when you're younger, 3 times a week when you're older, or whatever. does your job involve mostly sitting at a desk ?

lhslancers | 08-12-2009 03:47 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by lhslancers (Post 1864014) Sounds like mild depression. Seen a doctor?
Like some others have suggested go to a doctor. That doesn't automatically mean pills. Get a work up.

Zilver | 08-12-2009 04:27 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? :shine:I would suggest getting "grounded" with nature.:shine: If I am feeling down or overwhelmed the first thing I do is head for the woods. There are a few old growth forests near by that I visit for spiritual healing. One has a series of beautiful medium sized waterfalls on a small stream which flows year round. To gain strength find an old tree that has accumulated energy and power through time... place you back against the tree and form a bond with it's energy. allow yourself to become one with the universe and feel the energy around you, be thankful for the moment and let all of the world's negativity slip away. I think many of us have lost our connection with nature which I also believe is essential to our well-being. If there are no woods near by get out in the garden and dig in the dirt. As funny as this sounds, it will really perk you up and give you a new perspective... Nature has a way of healing the soul of man. MOT just posted a vid on feeling fine, get out there and connect with the earth:coolbeer: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Y0gboVgJiyE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Y0gboVgJiyE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Ag_man | 08-12-2009 04:57 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Zilver (Post 1865299) :shine:I would suggest getting "grounded" with nature.:shine: If I am feeling down or overwhelmed the first thing I do is head for the woods. There are a few old growth forests near by that I visit for spiritual healing. One has a series of beautiful medium sized waterfalls on a small stream which flows year round. To gain strength find an old tree that has accumulated energy and power through time... place you back against the tree and form a bond with it's energy. allow yourself to become one with the universe and feel the energy around you, be thankful for the moment and let all of the world's negativity slip away. I think many of us have lost our connection with nature which I also believe is essential to our well-being. If there are no woods near by get out in the garden and dig in the dirt. As funny as this sounds, it will really perk you up and give you a new perspective... Nature has a way of healing the soul of man.
Doesn't sound funny to me at all, good advice, IMO.

Onboard | 08-12-2009 04:58 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Brother Hive, hang in there. I've had days nay weeks that sucked out loud. Had no idea how I could possibly get through them. I got through them though and I've had days since that were so great, so darn fulfilling that words fail me. Everything cycles. Feeling low? Go with it for awhile, that's why there's Blues music. The blue times make the good times really, really good. Here's to ya and better times :beer:

Onboard | 08-12-2009 06:50 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Day-um Wildcard. I'm laughing so hard right now. Where were you and Mr. Zevon when my shit was effed up. Never heard it before, thanks. :4_1_72:

Unclad Lad | 08-13-2009 02:24 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtman You go to a doctor and get a diagnoses of depression and you will not have to worry about cleaning any guns for long, you will not be aloud to own them.
If you're idiot enough to talk about shooting yourself, or wave them about, then yes, you might lose them. "Don't ask, don't tell". As far as I've seen, Hive, you are not an idiot. Yes, go see a doctor.

morganchaser | 08-13-2009 02:55 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? I have depression genetically. I wish experience taught me some magic trick solution, but there isn't one. I know one thing: there are two components you have to change simultaneously: health, and thought. If you have any new beliefs inspired by some recent event I suggest you kick them to the curb because they aren't working for you. All depression starts by thinking about the past/future and then talking yourself out of action based on beliefs which interpret those memories/predictions. As far as health: sleep outside if you're in the country, and change bedrooms if not. Make lots of commitments, but only ones you intend to keep. That language class sounds important and you'll hate yourself if you don't take it. http://www.livescribe.com/ <- buy this for the language class and you'll do much better in it. http://www.byki.com/fls/FLS.html Supplement the class with this adaptive flash card promotional software. The most important thing is to focus on the second by second decisions, and to spend more time doing and less time thinking. This is done through small easy things like showering, cooking a meal, registering for a class, buying school supplies. Carry a memo pad with you everywhere and every night before you go to sleep: write a list of 5 things to do tomorrow. Make a commitment to wake up to your alarm clock the first time it goes off and do it. Don't allow yourself to go back to sleep. Every time you're tempted to: grab some sneakers and some penut butter and V8 and go for a run. Snack on the PB & V8 for energy. Whatever triggered this bout of depression is an event which triggered a new belief and you want to shit can that belief before it kills you. You may get hit by a bus tomorrow. Life doesn't give second chances. It's now or never. Self destructive behavior usually starts with anger at oneself/guilt. Shit can those and forgive yourself if that's the case. Your punishment can be doing the hard thing and living a good life. Letting life fall apart is the easy way out, and the longer you dwell in depression, the harder it is to remember your old productive patterns. The only point of depression is self discovery of what behaviors make you unhappy. You should already know that, so stop it. Make a decision and stick to it.

ToBeSelfEvident | 08-13-2009 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PlatinumBlonde (Post 1864534) Sounds like you may have a thyroid problem.
Or an iodine imbalance. You can do a simple check for iodine deficiency by putting a blot of iodine on your skin - say the inside of your upper arm. If the stain is gone in 8 hours it's because your body absorbed it and you need more iodine in your diet. If the stain is there the next day your iodine level is okay. You can injest iodine by using iodized salt, but to avoid getting too much sodium, something like Thyodine might be better: http://www.greenwillowtree.com/Page....timonials.html

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Sparky | 08-13-2009 03:49 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 1864010) ... I seem to feel best just hanging around the house, doing little to nothing, enjoying the quiet and sleeping...
This is the part that doesn't sound like depression. Are you content during the downtime, or anxious?

Russkie | 08-13-2009 04:01 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? No one else said it, so I guess I should.... Try heartfelt prayer. Genuine prayer. Have a sit-down with God. Go out into the woods, out to the garage, wherever you feel comfortable. Tell Him what's bothering you, where you think you have fvcked up, and the kind of help you need from Him. I can talk to God and say ANYTHING I want. It works for me, so maybe it would work for you. It's got to be worth a try before seeing a pill-pusher. Sometimes depression is God calling us back to Him. Sometimes those pills just mute God's voice. You can only be so cynical and hard in this life, until something deep down wells up and begins to agitate. Without your spirituality, not much is very meaningful in this world, if you really look at it. Serious.

randman | 08-13-2009 04:04 PM
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Try heartfelt prayer. Genuine prayer. Have a sit-down with God
Hmmm.... Why did "God" let him start feeling this way in the first place? Or is he just negligent?

Russkie | 08-13-2009 04:12 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by randman (Post 1866921) Hmmm.... Why did "God" let him start feeling this way in the first place? Or is he just negligent?
I'm just making a suggestion to maybe help a fellow person, not inviting the likes of you to a discussion.

randman | 08-13-2009 04:18 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Hmmm .."the likes of me"...would that be anyone that disagrees with you? last time I checked ..it's an open discussion Don't have to answer the question if you don't want to..( or can't)

ruprick | 08-13-2009 04:24 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? So, have you picked a new hobby to lift your spirits and give you a change of pace? How about buying a low cost basic reloading kit....I know you have guns....do you reload? Also back to the 22 to 44 skirt action.....now that is something i could put some hartfelt prayer into....

Ishkabibble | 08-13-2009 04:28 PM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Prayer works well for many people, religeous or otherwise. For those that don't believe in god, it still clears the mind and adds purpose. I believe in god, but not one that meddels in human affairs. Even so, there are times I pray. In depression, the spirit often needs healing.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-14-2009 02:47 AM
Re: Have you ever lost interest in, well... everything? Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1866885) This is the part that doesn't sound like depression. Are you content during the downtime, or anxious?
Very content, zero anxiety. A recent example: Woke up last Saturday around 7:45 a.m. to the sunlight flooding the master bedroom, figured I'd better get up. Opened the sliding doors and windows to let the fresh air in as it was a cooler day that day, temp-wise. Had some yogurt and a little cereal while I read an essay or two on the web. Around 8:30 I started feeling somewhat drowsy, and figured I'd just stretch out on the bed in the room right next to where the PC is (my impromptu office, but it doubles as a guest bedroom at times). "Why fight it?" I thought to myself, so I just stretched out and pulled a bright yellow blanket I brought back from Mexico over me. Next thing I know I wake up to the sound of birds singing in the backyard as a cool breeze flows through the whole house. It's between 10:30 and 11. Through the open windows I can hear the sound of neighborhood children laughing in the distance as they play somewhere far down the street. I looked up the ceiling fan and watched it slowly turning, thinking of absolutely nothing of import. I just sorta' laid there like that, all relaxed, thinking "I should probably go do some stuff but man, this is the best!" I could have stayed there most or all of the day. It's like that. (I hope Curtman doesn't read this and call me lazy again...)

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-14-2009 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1866965) Also back to the 22 to 44 skirt action.....now that is something i could put some hartfelt prayer into....
My friend Jeanette called late tonight and left a VM while I was in the shower, tells me she's in Chicago but wants to see me when she gets back next week. Jeanette is a senior manager for Ulta in L.A. She's hot, I've liked her for a long time...

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 08-14-2009 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 1865086) Have you lost your morning hard-ons? If so, your problem is physical not mental.
Wood is good, no worries there at all. :bear_thumb: EDIT: I apologize to any Lady GIMers I may have offended with that...

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