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chad | 01-21-2009 09:34 AM
the 'ulimate barter items' thread ammo whiskey/beer/alcohol toilet paper cigarettes/tobacco powdered baby formula i never thought about the baby formula angle until my neighbor brought it up. apparently it's like gold these days.

ShortJohnSilver | 01-21-2009 10:21 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread What about water filters, like small ones meant for camping use? Small heaters, gas or propane fired stoves.

SLV>GLD | 01-21-2009 10:27 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quality, refillable lighters and butane canisters. Those little propane tanks that they make every heating/cook device you can think of for. chad nailed all the other ones in my list.

chad | 01-21-2009 10:46 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread batteries as well. what do you think would be best? aa? d cell? c? what does most stuff run off these days?

Victor | 01-21-2009 10:48 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Tampons and condoms. Edited to add: painkillers and antibiotics.

SLV>GLD | 01-21-2009 10:50 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by chad (Post 1522725) batteries as well. what do you think would be best? aa? d cell? c? what does most stuff run off these days?
AAA and AA are likely the most commonly consumed and Lithium stores the longest and works under more extreme conditions making it worthwhile to keep for barter or personal use. I'm of the opinion you shouldn't waste money or space on storing things you, yourself, won't be using and would use that paradigm in my selection of battery sizes.

Vendico | 01-21-2009 10:51 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Coffee will be valuable. Tampons (hygienic products) formula will need water so you might be limited on buyers

SLV>GLD | 01-21-2009 10:51 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Flashlights and headlamps

chad | 01-21-2009 11:22 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread those little green propane tanks are a good idea. cheap too, good barter item, especially if you paired it with a cheap stove. and you could always use it yourself.

Sparky | 01-21-2009 11:27 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor (Post 1522731) Edited to add: painkillers and antibiotics.
Antibiotics would have tremendous value, but how do you acquire them to store?

Victor | 01-21-2009 11:59 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1522816) Antibiotics would have tremendous value, but how do you acquire them to store?
That is the rub. You almost need a consistant underground source to get around the shelf life of long term storage. I do know that alot of vet antibiotics can be used on humans just fine and there are sources on-line but long term colapse type situation and that avenue goes bye, bye. At that point you need to go black market and try and get close to a maker of some kind. Similar to the illegal drug trade. Being able to produce painkillers and antibiotics that work and won't kill you by accident is something that will elevate you to the top of the food chain in a hurry post SHTF. That would be a "career" to look into if you can get the materials needed to make them and have the brains for it.

hollister | 01-21-2009 12:32 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1522816) Antibiotics would have tremendous value, but how do you acquire them to store?
I actually just told my dentist that I believed in keeping supplies for emergencies and he wrote me a script. That was a long time ago and your mileage may vary.

gangsta99 | 01-21-2009 12:35 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Take ammo off your list. Been discussed over and over that you do not what to arm people around you who you are bartering with. If it truly gets ugly who wouldn't trade someone their most valuable items for something they can turn right around and use to get back said valuable item + whatever else that person may have stocked up on.

Dymaxion42 | 01-21-2009 12:37 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Over the counter medications -- tylenol, aspirin, etc. Highly needed, easily divisible, long shelf life, easily to store, hide, transport, etc. And cans of tuna. Dymaxion

Dymaxion42 | 01-21-2009 12:39 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1522816) Antibiotics would have tremendous value, but how do you acquire them to store?
Mexico, baby. Dymaxion

goddess | 01-21-2009 12:50 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread What about the basics, toothpaste, soap, toothbrushes, combs, and diapers? I know when we do humanitarian aid kits that some of the stuff we put in them

Canadian-guerilla | 01-21-2009 01:09 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread 100 Items to Disappear First 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.) 15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric) 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens From a Sarajevo War Survivor: Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks. 1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources. 2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden. 3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's. 4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.) 5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk. 6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands. 7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else. 8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/ite...ppearfirst.htm

Canadian-guerilla | 01-21-2009 01:15 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread i would be thinking of parents with small children if there's no tv to babysit the kids, the kiddies are going to be crying for attention take a walk thru Toys R US and then think simple and cheap coloring books ?

Twisted Avatar | 01-21-2009 01:41 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1523037) i would be thinking of parents with small children if there's no tv to babysit the kids, the kiddies are going to be crying for attention take a walk thru Toys R US and then think simple and cheap coloring books ?
Yup .........card games like UNO, Memory and puzzles will go a looooooooooooooong way to keeping the peace for the littel ones. T

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 01-21-2009 04:56 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread $5 Survival Knives (Full-Tang, Cord-Wrapped Handle) Are in every bag I have....Good barter Item... I have a box of lighters that have an LED flashlight on the bottom...very useful...Found some Zippos for a couple bucks each...Zippo fluid is another item... Another item? Candy! Hard sucker candy. Got a mix of peppermints, strawberries, Fireballs and butterscotches for 99 cents a pound. When the dollar crashes those are going to be looking tasty for a penny a pop.

Canadian-guerilla | 01-21-2009 05:18 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNocturnalEgyptian (Post 1523492) Another item? Candy! Hard sucker candy. Got a mix of peppermints, strawberries, Fireballs and butterscotches for 99 cents a pound. When the dollar crashes those are going to be looking tasty for a penny a pop.
+1 hard candy stores like forever and could be gold for parents trying to keep the hunger pangs away a 1 lb bag of hard candy is definitely more than a penny a pop

EE_ | 01-21-2009 05:33 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Powdered milk Powdered eggs powdered butter Booze

TTAZZMAN | 01-21-2009 05:56 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1523037) i would be thinking of parents with small children if there's no tv to babysit the kids, the kiddies are going to be crying for attention take a walk thru Toys R US and then think simple and cheap coloring books ?
:signs14: I have gotta laugh at this one......i grew up with sticks..rocks..string...etc as my toys....:cry1:......its us old folks that need entertainment

dosman | 01-21-2009 06:06 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread I can't believe no one has mentioned marijuana. One of the greatest stores of value ever...as long as you don't smoke it all!

damoc | 01-21-2009 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dosman (Post 1523648) I can't believe no one has mentioned marijuana. One of the greatest stores of value ever...as long as you don't smoke it all!
isnt it to easy to grow?and as such if it wasnt for the legality of it making it valuable on the black market it would not be worth much at all kind of like any other herb or utilitarian plant? so in times of little or no law it would be close to worthless? just a thought electrical tape solar panels but not if you want to be moving with them and they have the added advantage of saving or eliminating your electrical bill untill needed for barter.

dosman | 01-21-2009 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by damoc (Post 1523680) isnt it to easy to grow?and as such if it wasnt for the legality of it making it valuable on the black market it would not be worth much at all kind of like any other herb or utilitarian plant? so in times of little or no law it would be close to worthless? just a thought electrical tape solar panels but not if you want to be moving with them and they have the added advantage of saving or eliminating your electrical bill untill needed for barter.
You make a good point. Growing isn't that easy, though. There will always be people who are willing to give you a reasonable trade for your herb, IMO.

SLV>GLD | 01-21-2009 07:42 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread R-A-Z-O-R B-L-A-D-E-S The disposables nowadays are worthy and Costco sells bulk packs with coupon specials.

MetalManiac | 01-21-2009 07:53 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Hookers n' BLOW! :banana: http://www.clusterflock.org/wp-conte...ight_party.jpg

electric-amish | 01-21-2009 08:33 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread food and water---shelter and protection Shoes and medicine. Basic stuff in a Fema Camp E-A

ShirleyUGeste | 01-21-2009 10:12 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread I've given a bit of thought to this for more reasons than one. I'm pushing 60 pretty hard and I've got an elderly mother to take care of. My two sons are around, available, and willing, but I think we need to be as independent as possible. We've stockpiled better than a year's worth of groceries and toiletries, we have our pm stash and a reasonably healthy stash of cash. Add to that six months of food for the animals, six months of Mom's rx's, and LOTS of blankets, warm clothes, and tools. I'm currently working on my first aid kit, which includes bandaging, peroxide, rubbing alchohol, antibiotic creams, cold/cough/flu medications, etc., etc., etc. We're also acquiring a healthy stock of books, jigsaw puzzles, crossword books, and simple games (dominoes, Scrabble, Yahtzee, checkers, chess, etc.) for our own entertainment. But I know there are going to be things we need or want later that we may have to barter for. I want the barter items to take up as little storage room as possible, to be reasonably cheap now, to be indispensible (and therefore valuable) later, light-weight, and universal.... in other words things that almost everybody needs. The list of barter items we are accumulating is pretty short but meets all the criteria: toothbrushes disposable cigarette lighters (for lighting fires) socks salt disposable razors manual can openers cheap sunglasses (going to be alot of people working outdoors in gardens, etc.) chapstick (good for any harsh weather -- heat, cold, wind, etc) 5x8 pads of paper fishing hooks & line bars of soap clothes pins small jars of spices and herbs (often available at Dollar Store for $.50) decks of cards (entertainment for both kids and adults) small boxes of baking soda (cooking, cleaning, medical uses, and makes both an excellent toothpaste or deoderant substitute) Optional Items: small tobacco pouches rolling papers small flasks of liquor (half pints) shampoo (Dollar Store) I absolutely agree with the poster who states that arming your neighbors is a bad idea.

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MKS | 01-21-2009 10:26 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by ShirleyUGeste (Post 1524042) I absolutely agree with the poster who states that arming your neighbors is a bad idea.
While this sentiment is correct, I believe ammo as a barter item is a good thing. If things get really bad there will most likely be a black market, wherever that may be and you will be able to sell ammo at the "marketplace" for a good premium without them knowing where you live. Of course selling at the black market carries it's own risks.

Minimus | 01-22-2009 12:18 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Food and Fuel (whatever kind avaliable).

mouse | 01-22-2009 03:38 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread If you trust your and know your neighbors, they may require to borrow some guns and ammo from you in order to help protect the community. Not sure on this one. I would hope that my neighbors would band together, pool certain resources and protect the area. A guard force to enable security while you are asleep requires people and guns. Also get the radios. We used to use them for street racing and for cross country trips, just the two way radios that can reach about a mile or two. If a bunch of your neighbors have them you can communicate (unless the freq's are jammed)

Farmgal | 01-22-2009 09:11 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Start a garden and plant: Garlic - a great natural antibiotic. When you harvest you save some of the harvest to plant again, renewing your supply. Barter excess. Perennial herbs such as peppermint - easy to take starts off of for barter purposes and your plant keeps providing you more peppermint for your own use. Many other herbs work the same, or you could save seeds off annuals and plant again. Dried herbs and seeds would also be barterable. Berry bushes - get a book on plant propagation. Many berries are propagated through cuttings that are very easy to do. Great barter item and you keep harvesting the berries and take some more cuttings next year. Also, I would look at auctions and garage sales for quality tools cheap that people will need- garden tools, saws, cast iron cookware, etc. People will need tools of real value more than a lot of disposable junk. If you can sew, I would have a good old Singer treadle sewing machine. Stock up on needles, thread, and bolts of flannel. Make and barter quality diapers and feminine hygiene products. People are going to have to get past the use of disposable everything. Buy cotton and sew handkerchiefs. Learn how to make wine and be a winemaker. Buy the best quality wheat grinder and wheat seed. Barter the wheat seed and then barter the grinding for their wheat crop. Give classes for barter. Teach people how to do anything practical. Teach a class on herbs, then barter the herb starts. Have knowledge and skills that make you valuable to your community, so you won't just be a target for your stuff.

Professur | 01-22-2009 09:15 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread If you want antibiotics, try honey. Egyptians swore by it.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 01-22-2009 04:09 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Professur (Post 1524532) If you want antibiotics, try honey. Egyptians swore by it.
It was said that Myrrh could close any wound, from sword or scrape, within three days. Too bad it's one of th emost difficult plants on the planet to propogate successfully

Contento | 01-22-2009 08:30 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Tarps? Specialized beer/liquor making equipment? Gardening tools? Fuel filters (gas/diesel/etc.)? Reading glasses of various prescriptions? Anal Lube? (for the folks without condoms haha)

SLV>GLD | 01-22-2009 08:48 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Contento (Post 1526021) Anal Lube? (for the folks without any preps at all)
There, fixed that for ya. :)

ImaCannin | 01-22-2009 10:06 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Clothes pins for your own use. the plastic ones and the wood ones only last about one season now days. I got some mini clamps at home depot, the ones I got were metal with the blue rubber grip. I could not find a picture but they look like these. http://www.rockler.com/rockler/images/21032.jpg

SLV>GLD | 01-22-2009 10:12 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Dare I ask about your avatar?

ImaCannin | 01-23-2009 12:32 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Its a carrot! Dont you like it?

Brio | 01-23-2009 06:46 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Table salt. $4 for a 20 lb bag and absolutely necessary.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 01-23-2009 07:46 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread I like sea salt/mountain salt better. Most sea salt has over 70 minerals and vitamins in it, in trace amounts. Taste is also superior

Canadian-guerilla | 08-17-2009 10:36 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread not a coffee drinker myself, but along with cigarettes IMO these could be the top 2 trade items 2-3 days after TSHTF anyone have any idea how long coffee stores once it is opened from it's package ?

SLV>GLD | 08-17-2009 10:47 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1872427) not a coffee drinker myself, but along with cigarettes IMO these could be the top 2 trade items 2-3 days after TSHTF anyone have any idea how long coffee stores once it is opened from it's package ?
Most people have no idea what fresh coffee tastes like. If they can drink ground bagged coffee off a super market shelf they can drink most anything. Coffee keeps a very long time if you don't mind stale coffee. Personally, I like fresh coffee. Fresh means right from the roaster to the cup. http://food.theatlantic.com/coffee-c...resh-beans.php

wallew | 08-17-2009 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1522816) Antibiotics would have tremendous value, but how do you acquire them to store?
To acquire them (if you have pets) SEE YOUR VET. Explain WHY you are storing them. Pretty much done with that. Storing anitbiotics (and pretty much everything else on this thread), would be in a COOL dry place. Like a basement. Or a root cellar. You get the idea. READ FERFAL's missives. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...ghlight=ferfal He states that DVD's (and perhaps a stack of DVD blanks with a machine to copy DVD's could be a money making business). He says hand tools are exceptionally expensive since their manufacturing base was basically wiped out well before their collapse. Sound familiar? He says that IF YOU WANT AMMO NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY IT. He says forget about getting cases of ammo after the collapse. And a BOX of ammo can cost up to $100 or more. Depending on caliber. He says stock LOADS of .22 ammo. I would also add to purchase several inexpensive .22 single shot rifles, if you can find them. One rifle and a couple of the small boxes of ammo could be worth more than gold in the coming disapora. I won't be trading any, but for those of you who are hardy souls, be my guest. Last, but not least, Ferfal says if he had it to do over again, he would have purchased a bag or two of gold rings. He says coins and bullion are great but you will only get junk prices for it. So store up some gold in junk form. He says rings are the best. Chains can be snatched from your neck. You can wear a ring or two that you are willing to trade with and its a much better safety factor.

Russkie | 08-17-2009 03:24 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread UNfortunately, some folks will probably always be silly enough to barter for relative luxury good, like cigarettes an coffee. I stockpile food and bottles of vodka. Vodka has always been used as currency here, it is a good prep. I'm pretty sure I can use it to get anything else I need, as the need arises.

Silvestor | 08-17-2009 07:52 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread shaving razors

andial | 08-17-2009 08:04 PM
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Tn...Andy | 08-17-2009 08:20 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by hollister (Post 1522956) I actually just told my dentist that I believed in keeping supplies for emergencies and he wrote me a script. That was a long time ago and your mileage may vary.
Same here with an MD buddy. Freezer basket full of Amoxicillin and cephalexin ( dandy for respiratory infections ) sealed in foodsaver baggies. Injectable vet grade Procaine penicillin + syringes compliments of the farm supply store.

Tn...Andy | 08-17-2009 08:23 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Pri-G and D Canning lids .22 ammo

momopanda | 08-17-2009 08:38 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread MO on that which would have the highest value soonest, in a real shtf, outside storable food: (some things, like footwear and clothing, shelter, lamps , fuel etc will be crucial, but after the initial die off would presumably be more abundant than and easier to scrounge than the below) .22 ammo antibiotics alcohol working machinery and transportation and ability to fix/gerryrig same knowledge of foraging in your area LT - seeds, and the knowledge to propagate more antibiotics more ammo Hey , notice i didn't say silver?:biggrin: But that's the bartering stuff. The stuff you need in excess in order to interact and make yourself valuable to others. That ain't gonna be the most valuable stuff necessarily. Least to you and yours. The most valuable asset , and one I am most certainly lacking in, as are so many others I think, is the ability to stay undetected. Lotta folk think they're gonna just hunker down, in the their lair , a half mile off the beaten track and wait it out. Maybe. But the guys that think that they're gonna go on pretty much unchanged are in for a surprise I bet. Lotta people think that they're just gonna fire up the generator and solar panels and keep the a/c on and watch their dvd collection while gnoshing on smoked venison. I bet people are gonna be surprised, if ts really htf and power was gone. Take away the everpresent background noise of planes and highways and a/c units and I bet you'd be amazed at exactly how far away a person can hear a generator humming, especially after a few weeks of complete silence. Never mind a hunting rifle shot. How far away they can smell meat cooking, or the sulfur from a coal burning stove. Them solar panels are an invitation to everyone from 5 miles at a better altitude that says , "Hey, I'm prepped". Spot a lit window from miles away is my guess. Why hasn't Joe lost as much weight as everyone else? Not saying it ain't worth doing , just sayin' is all. The ability to stay undetected may be the most underrated and most difficult prep there is.

Twisted Avatar | 08-17-2009 09:23 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Musical intruments Flute,guitar etc......soothing music is cheap way to maintain your humanity

Twisted Avatar | 08-17-2009 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Russkie (Post 1872784) UNfortunately, some folks will probably always be silly enough to barter for relative luxury good, like cigarettes an coffee. I stockpile food and bottles of vodka. Vodka has always been used as currency here, it is a good prep. I'm pretty sure I can use it to get anything else I need, as the need arises.
Is there a good vodka to store in bulk???

11S11ver | 08-17-2009 09:36 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread BLEACH. A few drops will decontaminate anything including water for drinking if it comes down to it.

AMforPM | 08-17-2009 09:50 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Lots of good items listed. I have 2 extra head lamps for a trade item. They are incredibly useful. I use a solar charger and rechargeable batteries for mine, but may order another charger to trade with a headlamp. Ferfal, from the Argentine collapse, talked about how great headlamps are when power is off. We got our first one each, and they are great when the power is on. Light exactly where you are looking and 2 free hands is so superior to a flashlight in your teeth, or 'honey, point the light right there'.

Canadian-guerilla | 08-17-2009 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by momopanda The ability to stay undetected may be the most underrated and most difficult prep there is.
+1 one of my priorities when i was scouting BOL's

Canadian-guerilla | 08-17-2009 09:58 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Quote:
Originally Posted by 11S11ver (Post 1873325) BLEACH. A few drops will decontaminate anything including water for drinking if it comes down to it.
another possiblity for water purification is Calcium Hypochlorite http://www.survivaltopics.com/surviv...sinfect-water/

platinumdude | 08-17-2009 10:07 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread I got a portal solar panel that I can hook up and charge batteries for an MP3 player. The player uses very little juice so can play for hours without a recharge.

Silvestor | 09-25-2009 02:07 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread tampons ten characters

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Plastic | 09-25-2009 08:49 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread After harvesting the greater part of my garden this year, and running my hands through literally PILES of saved seeds; I have come to the conclusion that those seeds would be worth more than their weight in gold if TSHTF severely. Everyone talks about the basic needs for sure, even garden tools; but I cannot believe seeds were not mentioned in this fairly old post. Perhaps they were just taken for granted and not overlooked... Keep your seeds close people, the lives you save may just be your own. Imagine the bartering power of seeds when everyone around you is starving to death.

Jimfrancisco | 09-25-2009 05:03 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Cocaine. Everyone loves it, and those who have had a "bit of an occasional sniff" will probably give you their car for it. Also meth, but then you have to shoot delusional maniacs now and again.

SLV>GLD | 09-25-2009 07:17 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread I hate cocaine... amphetamines in general. My body isn't cut out for it. I'm already in high gear. This is coming from someone who has done at least one recreational drug for every letter of the alphabet (that's a fun game). Psychedelics and narcotics are about all I'll touch anymore. I've never understood what is pleasurable about cocaine. I did, one day, discover what was the black hole people throw their lives into for methamphetamine and that was the last time I ever took any speed for good. I admit it might make a decent barter item if you run in the right circles to begin with. However, it is already earmarked as the rich man's drug.

Jimfrancisco | 09-26-2009 05:28 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Come to Colombia for a week, then you will like coke - the stuff outside there is about 20% pure, cut with dirty amphetamines, then cut again. Nobody can "hate" proper cocaine, no matter how high-geared you are.

FedUp | 09-26-2009 07:53 PM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread Sugar and yeast equal alcohol. No connoisseurs when TSHTF.

beercritic | 09-27-2009 12:27 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread There will be connoisseurs at MY house.

AndreaGail | 09-27-2009 12:33 AM
Re: the 'ulimate barter items' thread I few things that I'd like to have that haven't been mentioned\ carmex q-tips

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