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JC Refuge | 08-31-2006 12:40 PM
New Mountain House Group Buy OK--I've been trying to get a classified ad posted for days now with no luck and no response from GKhan for assistance. So, with time ticking away on this buy going on at a number of different places, I figure I should make this known here one way or the other because I know a lot of folks here would be disappointed if they miss this chance. The current buy is for the 3-case/18-variety package as well as for the 8-case and 25-case packages. I won't provide any more info here to try to keep from riling up the anti-commercialists. :wink: If you are interested, PM me here or email me at XXX

JC Refuge | 09-03-2006 08:42 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy I just found that Mountain House has a brand new product--organic fruit in 1 oz packages. I am making cases available as a $25 add-on option to our 3 special packages.

Master_Ho | 09-03-2006 08:51 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Is there a link to Mountain House and their products?

JC Refuge | 09-03-2006 09:53 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 348946) Is there a link to Mountain House and their products?
PM sent, Master_Ho

JC Refuge | 09-05-2006 05:39 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Someone suggested a bit more clarity is called for on the organic fruit cases mentioned above ... For $25, a case contains eight 1 oz (befrore hydration) pouches. The MSRP on a case is $32.

JC Refuge | 09-05-2006 05:46 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy ALSO--here's some really cool news: Our large orders are shipping at the moment within 3 days of submission! I am still telling folks up to three weeks to stay safe, but 3 DAYS! Wow.

AgAuGal | 09-05-2006 06:56 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Anyone taste test the new fruit? how may ozs after hydration?

blueice | 09-05-2006 08:15 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by JC Refuge (Post 346237) OK--I've been trying to get a classified ad posted for days now with no luck and no response from GKhan for assistance.
Hey stop dissing the Great Khan, he is busy answering 2000 e-mails. OUR WONDERFUL SPELL CHECK MISSED THE WORD - "DISSING"

JC Refuge | 09-05-2006 08:19 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by blueice (Post 350681) Hey stop dissing the Great Khan, he is busy answering 2000 e-mails. OUR WONDERFUL SPELL CHECK MISS THE WORD - "DISSING"
No disrespect intended. I simply wanted to be clear about the situation for all involved.

JC Refuge | 09-05-2006 08:20 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by AgAuGal (Post 350612) Anyone taste test the new fruit? how may ozs after hydration?
Haven't tried them yet. I think you can roughly estimate the weight to double after hydration.

JC Refuge | 09-05-2006 08:49 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by skytrooper (Post 350692) I've heard that dehydrated foods like Mountain House have a lot of modified food starch and many people can't tolerate it. Is this true? I'd sure like to know before I order a lot of it. Anyone experience any problems?
Well, that's what Maddie posted in your "Food to Store" thread, Skytrooper. I can't say that's not a valid concern for some, but I have to tell you that I had never heard a thing about that from anyone else before reading that. So, how do you define "many" people can't tolerate ...? I've sold many thousands of cases of the stuff without a single complaint. Mountain House (Oregon Freeze Dry) has been in business as THE premier freeze dried food preparer for something like 40 years. Uncle Sam feeds pretty much all of its soldiers and many others the stuff at one time or another, and often on a regular basis. The Red Cross and FEMA are big customers. Nutritionists view freeze drying as the best method of food preservation possible (cost is the biggest deterrent to wider usage).

Ghost Recon | 09-05-2006 09:24 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Back when I used to do a lot of backpacking, MH was the most popular brand. I wouldn't consider anything else. I never heard of anyone complain about modified food starch. I'm having a tough time not opening my Beef Sroganoff and Rice & Chicken. Both are excellant!!!!!!!!!!!

blueice | 09-05-2006 10:29 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by JC Refuge (Post 350685) No disrespect intended. I simply wanted to be clear about the situation for all involved.
Justa kidden, Refuge. Welcome to GIM, big daddy !

BeefJerky | 09-05-2006 11:00 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by JC Refuge (Post 350529) Someone suggested a bit more clarity is called for on the organic fruit cases mentioned above ... For $25, a case contains eight 1 oz (befrore hydration) pouches. The MSRP on a case is $32.
A half pound (8 oz.) of friut. Double after hydration makes one pound (16 oz.). This costs $ 25??????????????? WOW....Caviar fruit?:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Am I reading this wrong?:withstupi

Ghost Recon | 09-05-2006 11:26 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 350808) I quit buying MH because most (if not all) of the entrees contain MSG. When someone like GR states the entrees taste "excellent", this is likely the result of the MSG acting upon the palate.
I don't like the Beef Stew or the Pre-Cooked Eggs so You need to figure out another argument.....

Prometheus | 09-05-2006 11:41 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 350808) I quit buying MH because most (if not all) of the entrees contain MSG.
:afraid: Is that true? Everyone I've ever talked to claims that mountainhouse is the Porsche of storage foods. JC from Safecastle, nice to see you over on these parts too. I've seen you ad on survival blog many a times. :coolbeer:

Master_Ho | 09-05-2006 11:54 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 350870) Hydrolyzed vegetable protein = MSG Some of the MH entrees contain partially hydrogenated oils as well, which are also very bad for you. Hey, it's YOUR health, manage however you see fit. You're the one who has to live with the consequences.
Well, putting in my two cents here, I placed an order today with MH and did not know that. And I do not use MSG in my cooking........ So would I have done the same thing if I did.......? Yes, probably. See, I do not intend to make a regular banquet of this food - its for emergencies.....and, in an emergency, I think its great to have this option as PART of a diet.........and certainly stores better than most canned foods (longer and less room due to the lack of water in the packaging).......and is going to taste better than a month of rice and beans........... While I am not one for MSG - once in a while, and especially in an emergency situation, I suspect most of us (unless we are allergic to MSG) would be thrilled to have the option of something with taste. Lord knows - if I was hungry and someone offered me a serving of this stuff - I wouldn't pause and ask them if it had a little MSG in it and then turn it down if it did! Maybe others would disagree - and if so, certainly, do not buy it........but for me I am grateful for this option in addition to the other foods stored away.

Ghost Recon | 09-05-2006 11:57 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy I don't recomend eating MH for every meal. I've also got a lot of regular food. As far as MSG being bad for you, I'm sure that we can look at a lot of stuff found in a normal grocery store and find similar bad products. For instance, I used to drink a lot of pop and coffee. Then I had a bone density scan and I fell within the mild to moderate category. That day I cut out the pop and coffee. Having done a lot of backpacking, I know what to expect when tshtf. Your not going to be able to carry much regular food. Hey...it's your life....

Ghost Recon | 09-06-2006 12:17 AM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Good post Gasilat. I've read that MH #10 cans are good for 40 years. I like the idea that it will still be fine years from now. As I read other forums, I'm constantly coming across threads where someone opened up some bucket of something they put together 5 years ago only to find that there are bugs in it or it has otherwise spoiled. All that work and money, and they have to throw it out.

Prometheus | 09-06-2006 02:35 AM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Ghost, speaking of which a guy opened up a can from the early 80's not to long ago on another board (scrambled eggs w/bacon) and said it taseted awesome. I forget exactly how old but it was 20+ years. 23 IIRC. That is awesome. I want a 3 year supply of MH foods in addition to all my stored rice, beans, corn, soybeans ect. ect. Once I move, I'm going to start stockpiling. At the moment I only stock 'short and mid term' foods like 2lt bottles of rice, sugar, salt and such. costco cans of kirkland chicken and tuna... I don't have room (literally) for more than the few hundred pounds of stuff I have stored now, otherwise I'd have alot more. I figure why buy the MH now, when I don't even have my short term handled very well. I figure my family of 5 can get by for about 4 months right now. Alot better than most in the country. Of course in a SHTF situation we couldn't stay here and we'd have to leave. I can't pack up what I've got now... Arrrg!!!!

AMforPM | 09-06-2006 03:35 AM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Our main stored food is beans and grains and sprouts makings. MH type food is for something that tastes different, and is easy to prepare. I cannot agree that it tastes great. A bit below canned, WAY below home cooking is how I would rate the taste, but if you have been living on beans, stroganoff that is a bit less appealing than Dinty Moore or Campbell's, but was shelf stable and just add hot water... in those circumstances it would be a treat. No stored food retains a great nutritional profile, but freeze drying is one of the better. MH is salty and has MSG and I would not prefer every meal to be that. But with sprouts, grain and beans, and later garden vegetables for the mainstay, the body can tolerate MH better than starvation unless you are allergic to MSG. Long storage capability and reasonably edible is O.K. for emergencies. We are not selecting storage food because it is the finest cuisine, but because it stores well.

Ghost Recon | 09-06-2006 05:39 AM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy I may not have drilled down far enough on AA's website but I found this, under their 'long term'-storage section. They are talking about #10 cans. It looks like they are talking about their freeze dried product. I could be wrong though: "Our cans are constructed of heavy-gauge steel with food grade enamel coating on the inside. A "state of the art" oxygen absorber is placed in each can to insure the very best shelf-life." If the above describes their freezedried #10 cans, then I can see why MH has a much longer storage life.

Ghost Recon | 09-06-2006 06:03 AM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy "it is estimated that Americans consume 200 million pounds of MSG or related products annually." Oh man....200 million pounds.....straight from the grocery store? I'm wondering who uses more, MH or the more traditional food companies? I didn't read the entire article. I've got to get some sleep. http://www.upenn.edu/researchatpenn/article.php?550&hlt

Tn...Andy | 09-06-2006 06:21 AM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Yeah.....I don't like Mountain House foods either......I never buy it in more than pallet load quanity. http://www.digistash.com/data/026a39...8_p109061.jpeg

money matters | 09-06-2006 12:03 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy I have objected to JC Refuge doing business on this forum before. The only time the guy comes here is to sell something; freeze dried foods in #10 cans, folding bicycles for $500, etc. The guy does NOT participate in threads on this board. Last time I looked at what he had posted there was NOTHING related to discussion of Precious Metals, nothing that did not facilitate his business purposes. Real food is going to do nothing but escalate in price. Get those organic grains, beans, seasonings and spices before you waste your $$ on Freeze-dried "convenience food". Do you buy Numismatic coins or Bullion coins? I liken this MH junk to the same scenario. You'd really be better off using the same $$$ to buy cooking and food prep tools, a good Excalibur dehydrator, a Good grain mill with electric motor, a library of cookbooks and references, and a super set of knives and a sharpening system. Got those bases covered? Got a couple tons of real food stored for your family of four? That said, some people who own guns also own reloading eqpt. Relying on a MH food storage is like not owning reloading eqpt and supplies; when the ammo runs out, your expensive guns are useless. "Members" who come here only to profiteer off you are similarly worthless.

AMforPM | 09-06-2006 12:28 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy From previous MH sales here quite a few GIM members got orders they were satisfied with at good prices. His offers are the lowest price I have seen on MH. It may not be your thing, but some like it, and since it was a service to some, then I think there is a place for it. What ALL have you objected to being posted anyway? This isn't your first attempt to silence another poster. Do you think you are the GIM post banning committee or what? Just full of cheer. Quote:
What fun! Another GIM fracus; lots of know-nothing opininons
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Is this board given over to thuggery? Likely, comparing the degenerate, "ihslancers" to a thug, gives thugs a bad name. He is more of a self-centered cretin of basest values. Hell, sub-base values.
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The hypertiger is exhibiting the same nonsense and absence of reasoning capacity which he has painted across this forum since mid-Jan 2004.
A personality transplant might help. Or starting your own board to be dictator of.

electric-amish | 09-06-2006 12:54 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy I'm not in a position now to order but I like the availability of the mountain House group orders JC put in. I go camping from time to time and have taken Mountain House food. It was good and I had no bad experience. The Sausage Patty was a little funky texture wise but it was eaten and Thats what counted on that trip. The light weight of it is the Bugout bags best friend if your packing your food for 50 miles or something else. JC timing isn't right for me but good to see the offer. Electric-Amish

JC Refuge | 09-06-2006 12:59 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Here's the deal on who I am, what I do--in a nutshell. For years, I was a standard preparedness-forum dweller, espousing various viewpoints, pro, con, etc. Offering my expertise such as it is when applicable to a discussion. Over time, as many of you I am sure are aware, one becomes weary running around in circles, covering the same bases over and over again in a discussion forum. I was and am one who thinks it much better to do rather than talk. In addition, I really was getting to the point, having reached my own level of satisfaction with our household preparedness, that I needed to actually go to the next step--that I needed to do something to help others in the community to do some logical preparing for crises. A couple of years ago, I decided to downshift my standard workday in PR and communications to allow for some exploration in how to do that. A long story short--I found that I could do some substantial things "on the ground" to put together deals where preparedness gear and materials could be offered at discounts previously unavailable to the average prepper. And of course, how better to do that than to bring those deals directly to where many of those preppers live--in discussion forums on the web. If you think I'm doing this to make money--you're wrong. Yes, I make some money to pay expenses and to allow for some growth--I'm not in a position to be a charity. But the bottom line for me continues to be that I want to see America survive what may be around the corner. It's not enough that my household will do so if my neighborhood becomes hell incarnate. I aim to help others realize that it makes sense to put aside some of their time and/or income to prepare for contingencies. And I try to make it as easy as possible for them to do so.

Master_Ho | 09-06-2006 04:09 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy I have something to say about this..........it won't make me popular with you but tough! Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) I have objected to JC Refuge doing business on this forum before.
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Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) The only time the guy comes here is to sell something; freeze dried foods in #10 cans, folding bicycles for $500, etc. The guy does NOT participate in threads on this board. Last time I looked at what he had posted there was NOTHING related to discussion of Precious Metals, nothing that did not facilitate his business purposes.
Well - I, for one, DO post a lot about PMs and other survival issues, so.......... FIRST - these boards are primarily about PMs but there are plenty of others related threads here and survival if TSHTF is one of them. No one says everyone has to post about PMs! TWO - I, for one, was interested in what this man had to offer (more about that later) and when I tried to get him to post a link, he PMed me instead for fear he would be considered a spammer. Eventually, he PMed me the info, even tho he had the opening to post it for all. Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) Real food is going to do nothing but escalate in price. Get those organic grains, beans, seasonings and spices before you waste your $$ on Freeze-dried "convenience food".
THREE - I agree and I have gotten them too - but frankly, I will welcome a bit of variety in my meals, and the convenience now and then of this form of food. And it can be eaten without heating.....what if, for whatever reason, we have no heat to cook beans and rice?? I do but what if it runs out? And who wants just beans and rice? Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) Do you buy Numismatic coins or Bullion coins? I liken this MH junk to the same scenario.
FOUR - Maybe its junk to you - you are entitled to your opinions - after all........everyone has one - like, well, ya know.......but some people DO collect numismatics, not only as a hobby but also as a hedge against possible confiscation one day. Maybe you don't think that will happen.....maybe you will be right? WHO CARES?? Some of us do have a percentage in numismatics! WHY? Because we like them! And yes, in the 1980 they went up in value with gold and silver! Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) You'd really be better off using the same $$$ to buy cooking and food prep tools, a good Excalibur dehydrator, a Good grain mill with electric motor, a library of cookbooks and references, and a super set of knives and a sharpening system. Got those bases covered? Got a couple tons of real food stored for your family of four?
FIVE - YEP! Got them all......except a couple of tons of food! Maybe you live on a farm and can store all that in a barn......but many of us live in homes with smaller storage areas and this form of food is a great way to store something to save our lives if there is a problem! And no, while I would like to move, I am not right now, nor are 95% of the people on this forum. Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) That said, some people who own guns also own reloading eqpt. Relying on a MH food storage is like not owning reloading eqpt and supplies; when the ammo runs out, your expensive guns are useless.
SIX - Oh sure....hey, I know people who reload and god bless em - they know what they are doing and do a great job - but for most of us here who have guns, I think, reloading is something that takes a lot of time and practice to do well. I am not going to rely, in times of trouble, on my own iffy reloads - I want something that will work cause it was done right by professionals - and while I will chance things like my own dehydrated food, I will NOT chance my life or my loved ones with my own amateur reloads! I buy and will use professional ammo thankyou! SEVEN - If I work thru all the ammo without getting killed from getting shot back at, I will have taken out an army and probably have skin tougher than Superman! Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) "Members" who come here only to profiteer off you are similarly worthless.
EIGHT - As are people who try to tell everyone what to do - however well meaning - and people who try to ban, or at least censor, others who are only trying to help! Yes, the man may make a profit - I have no doubt he does - and frankly, he deserves it......... HOWEVER - He also undercut the regular prices of the product by 20% - he didn't have to - but he did! NINE - I suspect that underneath all your posts, there was an effort to make some valid points - and I hear them, I do - but you'd get a lot more mileage with a different tone........ OBVIOUSLY - a lot of people here like the product and want the information....... If you resent it - fine - you know what to do......... PUT HIM AND THE THREAD ON IGNORE AND LET THE REST OF THEM GET ON WITH THINGS.

Tn...Andy | 09-06-2006 04:41 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Actually, I do live on a farm, raise a garden, have 2 catfish ponds, fruit trees, etc, deer all over the place, we can, dehydrate and jerk, and I have literally more than a ton of dried wheat, beans, corn, etc....I'm sitting one so much food you'd laugh if you saw the total inventory................and I still buy this stuff for several reasons: 1. Lot of food in a concentrated form. 2. I can't figure a way to home can anywhere NEAR the longevity of this stuff. 3. Great barter item down the road if it comes to that. (Your fault M-Ho....you got this list thing going...ahahahaha ) Now....is this stuff something I'd want to eat everyday...heck no......and for what it's worth, this was the LAST thing I bought in the way of stored foods. But it DOES add a variety ( like the blueberry cheesecake ) that I'm not going to have down the road maybe. AND if we're down to eating the last 50lbs of potatoes in Jan-Feb, OR can save them for seed in March by having this food in reserve....it's gonna taste REAL good then.

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Master_Ho | 09-06-2006 04:46 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 351593) (Your fault M-Ho....you got this list thing going...ahahahaha )
Mea Culpa! Mea Culpa! Actually, I can live with this! :proud: Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 351593) But it DOES add a variety ( like the blueberry cheesecake ) that I'm not going to have down the road maybe.
You can't can blueberry cheescake??? :eek: What about ice-cream sandwiches? I am actually looking into getting a couple just to see how they do that! Yes, I know, I am forever doing research for this site........first I washed all my junk silver, now I am going to sacrifice myself and try a freeze-dried ice-cream sandwich! What I go thru for you guys! :haha:

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 09-06-2006 07:34 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy Quote:
Originally Posted by money matters (Post 351326) I have objected to JC Refuge doing business on this forum before. The only time the guy comes here is to sell something; freeze dried foods in #10 cans, folding bicycles for $500, etc. The guy does NOT participate in threads on this board. Last time I looked at what he had posted there was NOTHING related to discussion of Precious Metals, nothing that did not facilitate his business purposes. Real food is going to do nothing but escalate in price. Get those organic grains, beans, seasonings and spices before you waste your $$ on Freeze-dried "convenience food". Do you buy Numismatic coins or Bullion coins? I liken this MH junk to the same scenario. You'd really be better off using the same $$$ to buy cooking and food prep tools, a good Excalibur dehydrator, a Good grain mill with electric motor, a library of cookbooks and references, and a super set of knives and a sharpening system. Got those bases covered? Got a couple tons of real food stored for your family of four? That said, some people who own guns also own reloading eqpt. Relying on a MH food storage is like not owning reloading eqpt and supplies; when the ammo runs out, your expensive guns are useless. "Members" who come here only to profiteer off you are similarly worthless.
100% AGREED. JC Refuge, you clearly violating board rules here at GIM with your signature if not the contents of your post as well, and you have obviously been here long enough to know it. Your blatant disregard for the operating rules of this forum do not speak well of you, your business, OR of survivalblog.com, whom you name in this post and who runs your advertisement. There will be consequences to this. Lastly, if the "JC" in your user name is supposed to reflect the Lord Jesus Christ, your business practices here are a disservice to the Lord and those of us Bible-believers who love and serve Him. I strongly suggest to review present practice and make adjustments to comply with all GIM rules, accordingly. This post HAS been reported to the ownership.

Scorpio | 09-06-2006 07:39 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy JC Refuge, Here is what you can do, You can have a link to your website only in your signature. You may not market goods, covertly or overtly. period. Any further activity results in suspension or termination of rights. Many here have contributed to keep this board free from commercialization, of which you are clearly violating. There will be no discussion on this. This thread is closed, and it should be deleted but I won't.

Scorpio | 09-06-2006 07:40 PM
Re: New Mountain House Group Buy btw, no emails, no other overt forms of communication in a commercial sense are allowed either. You may request that a link be put on the links page. I will talk with others about the classified part. Khan is busy, consequently he doesn't have time to wade through the msgs and emails regarding some of these items. That is just the way it is around here, sorry. website link or nothing.

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