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Armed.peasant | 02-14-2010 03:11 PM
Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Is it a growing movement? We will all be better off if it is. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...yptic-disaster

Drumblebum | 02-14-2010 03:23 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
There are several reasons for the rise of prepping. The first is that, in the post-9/11 world, mass terror attacks have become a fear for many Americans. At a time when US diplomacy is focused on preventing Iran getting nuclear weapons and terror experts continue to warn of "dirty bombs" on American soil, it is no surprise that many Americans feel threatened. Added to that paranoia has come the recession. Suddenly, millions of Americans have been losing their jobs and their homes, reinforcing a feeling that society is not as stable as it once seemed.
Yep. Paranoia about terror attacks. Right.. What a load of horseshit. Do they really think we are prepping for "terrorist attacks"?? This is such BS.

Armed.peasant | 02-14-2010 03:34 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world This caught my eye. In recent testimony before Congress, treasury secretary Tim Geithner admitted that top-level talks had been held on whether the US could enforce law and order in the wake of a collapse of the financial system.

Twisted Avatar | 02-14-2010 03:40 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world THEY BETTER STOCK UP...... WHEN THE HAMMER FALLS YOU DONT GET A "DO OVER" You Tube
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917601 | 02-14-2010 03:49 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world They seem to dis-regard US history. Some here may remember back when we had a Civil Defense system,designed and maintained to prevent casualties and save lives through the use of shelters, stockpiles, and CD offices.TODAY we have FEMA, which was created to "clean up the bodies" and "manage" after the fact.

Ruthless Defaulter | 02-14-2010 03:53 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Hopefully the preppers are including firearms and ammunition in their preparations. If not, their efforts are for naught. To paraphrase that infamous saying around here: "If you can't defend it, you don't own it."

Twisted Avatar | 02-14-2010 03:56 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthless Defaulter (Post 2179543) "If you can't defend it, you don't own it."
Now that's a dam good sig line.......... T

917601 | 02-14-2010 04:03 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 2179495) Yep. Paranoia about terror attacks. Right.. What a load of horseshit. Do they really think we are prepping for "terrorist attacks"?? This is such BS.
All government agencies have been.Do what I did, go to your Mayor and ask if they have been approached by "the Feds" or FEMA about "natural or man-made disaster" relief preparations.The city of Atlanta and outlaying counties were recently "given" more armored vehicles.The Newnan mayor and council were told in order to "receive disaster re-imbursement" they would have to maintain the two nice tracked vehicles "to maintain the continuity of civil society".GEMA also had a long talk with them.Read the article buried in "the Citizen",Newnan,Ga. paper,last year.Clayton, Fayette and Fulton county local governments also given the same talk (and APC).As a footnote, Clayton or Fayette (can not remember) police officers were told a few weeks ago to put together and have on hand a "go" bag for themselves and family.Do you have yours?

Apparition | 02-14-2010 04:06 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Consider the source, The Guardian, one of the most leftist, pro-Obama, & climatic fearmongering papers in the world. Just spreading their garbage as usual.

jetgraphics | 02-14-2010 04:38 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Based on current conditions, a collapse is the only remedy that the "powers that be" can exercise. The Constitution is fatally flawed, and there is no political will to correct the abuses. And the Constitution was bypassed by "voluntary" enrollment into national socialism. The monetary system is hostage to usury. And going back to precious metal coin is futile - there's less than 1/2 ounce per capita - far too little to be useful as a medium of exchange. Wise Ant saith: prepare your 24 month supply and hide it from the Gestapo Grasshoppers.

Scarnucci | 02-14-2010 04:55 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 2179588) The monetary system is hostage to usury. And going back to precious metal coin is futile - there's less than 1/2 ounce per capita - far too little to be useful as a medium of exchange.
That is assuming current population levels. What do you think the population of the US might be after a collapse? The cities will devour themselves. On another note, Im in the middle of writing a paper on early American bank reform. I've found it pretty interesting that the colonies had ALWAYS suffered from a lack of specie. England expected wealth to primarily flow one way across the Atlantic, and never wanted to divert PMs to the colonies. So, local currencies existed. People bartered and traded and local banks issued credit. Specie was king, certainly, but even with the considerable shortage, we were able to win independence (by the skin of our teeth). Maybe we can win it back once again from the latest batch of tyrants.

gunDriller | 02-14-2010 08:06 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 2179495) Yep. Paranoia about terror attacks. Right.. What a load of horseshit. Do they really think we are prepping for "terrorist attacks"?? This is such BS.
they mis-read preppers so thoroughly it's not even worth a letter to the editor.

jetgraphics | 02-14-2010 08:19 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarnucci (Post 2179609) That is assuming current population levels. What do you think the population of the US might be after a collapse? The cities will devour themselves.
Fort Knox depository - 147.4 million ounces. Current population - 307 million Americans. Even if 90% were lost, 147.4 million divided by 30.7 million people is only 4.8 ounces percapita. Based on the Coinage Act of 1792, that computes to $96 per capita. Still far too little to be useful as a medium of exchange. (World supply is estimated at 5.5 billion ounces. With 6.7 billion people, that computes to less than an ounce per capita, too.) Quote:
On another note, Im in the middle of writing a paper on early American bank reform. I've found it pretty interesting that the colonies had ALWAYS suffered from a lack of specie. England expected wealth to primarily flow one way across the Atlantic, and never wanted to divert PMs to the colonies.
That is the inevitable result of usury in a finite money token system - never enough money to go around. Biggest mistake in the USCON was the limitation to gold / silver coin. Made us slaves of the bankers, from day one. Quote:
So, local currencies existed. People bartered and traded and local banks issued credit. Specie was king, certainly, but even with the considerable shortage, we were able to win independence (by the skin of our teeth). Maybe we can win it back once again from the latest batch of tyrants.
There was a shortage of gold and silver for most of the 19th century. And when the silver strikes came in, the banksters had "their" Congress demonetize silver in the Coinage Act of 1873. And that shrank the money supply so much, that the nation suffered from economic chaos, prompting the contrived demand for an "elastic currency" as a solution. (Yeah, we all know how well THAT worked...). (See: Cross of Gold speech by William Jennings Bryan) Our current dilemma: [] National debt cannot be paid, cannot be questioned, cannot be voided [] Not enough gold nor silver to return to a species coin based monetary system - or pay off the debt [] Can't continue with debt-credit notes borrowed at usury [] 307 million "human resources" pledged as collateral on an impossible debt have legitimized worthless repudiated notes. (Voluntary slavery) [] Usury bankrupted Congress. The Federal government, as trustees of their own bankruptcy, cannot act against the wishes of the creditor. ... And it was all done by our consent ...

Ishkabibble | 02-14-2010 08:28 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 2179495) Yep. Paranoia about terror attacks. Right.. What a load of horseshit. Do they really think we are prepping for "terrorist attacks"?? This is such BS.
I believe we will see more than our share of terrorist attacks. One of the best ways to control a population is with fear, and the US government has shown it's willingness to leverage these controls. The origin of these attacks may or may not be foreign soil. The directive will come from within the US. Every effort will be made to divert the anger away from the government. False flag and mock terrorism will serve nicely and we're being set up to anticipate such actions and direct our hatred outward. Do you really think they'll side-step these tools when they're already conditioning us for their use? There is little else government can use to redirect public attention. I prep for the collapse, but I don't discount the likelihood the USG will bring terrorism to home turf. If they do, my preps will help me survive.

Agrippa | 02-14-2010 08:55 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 2179815) Fort Knox depository - 147.4 million ounces. Current population - 307 million Americans. Even if 90% were lost, 147.4 million divided by 30.7 million people is only 4.8 ounces percapita. Based on the Coinage Act of 1792, that computes to $96 per capita. Still far too little to be useful as a medium of exchange.
Have you considered how many atoms of gold are in a Troy ounce? If people wanted to use gold as a medium of exchange, and the market set the price (rather than a "Coinage Act"), then I see no reason why the available supply couldn't be stretched to do the job. It would sure put a lot of people to work mining....

AMforPM | 02-14-2010 10:14 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world It reassures me to hear enough Americans are prepping to make the news. Since the gov no longer keeps stockpiles for lean years the more families and individuals do, the better we will fare in hard times. I hope it becomes a bigger fad than y2k and most people do it, if only to beat rising prices some, or better weather unemployment. This snow may create some better stocked pantries in the future where people are snowed in. In Ishka's food price thread someone said their greatest gain was their food bought ahead at lower prices. Preps help peace of mind, might save lives, and at the very least save money.

917601 | 02-14-2010 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ishkabibble (Post 2179831) I believe we will see more than our share of terrorist attacks. One of the best ways to control a population is with fear, and the US government has shown it's willingness to leverage these controls. The origin of these attacks may or may not be foreign soil. The directive will come from within the US. Every effort will be made to divert the anger away from the government. False flag and mock terrorism will serve nicely and we're being set up to anticipate such actions and direct our hatred outward. Do you really think they'll side-step these tools when they're already conditioning us for their use? There is little else government can use to redirect public attention. I prep for the collapse, but I don't discount the likelihood the USG will bring terrorism to home turf. If they do, my preps will help me survive.
Backfiring? The only explanation for the record amount of gun and ammo sales must be "fear" according to the lefties. I myself find comfort in knowing more than 70% of my neighborhood is armed-up from less than 20% when the sub-division was started.Experience also plays a role, one who has experienced hostile fire knows 1,000 rds does not last very long.In fact, I can remember humping 389,000 rds in half a day-but that's another story. Ah, the good old days.

nickelless | 02-15-2010 04:55 AM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 2179484) Is it a growing movement? We will all be better off if it is. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...yptic-disaster
Let's not hope this is a growing movement. Let's hope it's a growing AWAKENING.

Ruthless Defaulter | 02-15-2010 10:28 AM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 2179815) Fort Knox depository - 147.4 million ounces...
...of Tungsten. Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 2179815) Our current dilemma: [] National debt cannot be paid, cannot be questioned, cannot be voided
It can be questioned, and it will be voided. If necessary, we can void the Constitution, as well. It really is just a piece of paper; it hasn't been followed by the government for decades. Why should we have to follow it regarding their debt? Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 2179815) ... And it was all done by our consent ...
Really? How so? Care to show me the contract I personally signed? No "implied contract" BS, either, please.

Armed.peasant | 02-16-2010 06:57 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 2179495) Yep. Paranoia about terror attacks. Right.. What a load of horseshit. Do they really think we are prepping for "terrorist attacks"?? This is such BS.
I am prepping for terrorist attacks, I see them planning attacks everyday on C-Span!

____hoot____ | 02-16-2010 08:55 PM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Agrippa (Post 2179878) Have you considered how many atoms of gold are in a Troy ounce? If people wanted to use gold as a medium of exchange, and the market set the price (rather than a "Coinage Act"), then I see no reason why the available supply couldn't be stretched to do the job. It would sure put a lot of people to work mining....
Ya, what about a few gold threads through a paper bill? BS to people that say a pm based money system can not work. Kick them off GIM!

nickelless | 02-21-2010 07:47 AM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 2183237) Ya, what about a few gold threads through a paper bill? BS to people that say a pm based money system can not work. Kick them off GIM!
The question isn't whether a PM-based money system can work-- worked just fine before 1965. The question is whether TPTB will let it.

Twisted Avatar | 02-21-2010 07:59 AM
Re: Americans stock up to be ready for end of the world Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishkabibble (Post 2179831) I believe we will see more than our share of terrorist attacks. One of the best ways to control a population is with fear, and the US government has shown it's willingness to leverage these controls. The origin of these attacks may or may not be foreign soil. The directive will come from within the US. Every effort will be made to divert the anger away from the government. False flag and mock terrorism will serve nicely and we're being set up to anticipate such actions and direct our hatred outward. Do you really think they'll side-step these tools when they're already conditioning us for their use? There is little else government can use to redirect public attention. I prep for the collapse, but I don't discount the likelihood the USG will bring terrorism to home turf. If they do, my preps will help me survive.
CNN just did a "mock" Cyber attack with Chertoff This does not bode well. Time is shorter than we think T

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