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Awoke | 02-11-2008 12:21 AM
Antibiotics WTSHTF I was thinking about this, and it would be mighty uncomfortable to get an ear infection whilst living in the bush with no doctors around... I know that mould on bread is a source of penicillin, but how much would you nedd? Where else can you find a source for this?

RonaldoB | 02-11-2008 01:21 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF The ancient Scots used to put mouldy rye bread slopped with honey on their wounds. Pretty effective at the time.. the honey keeps the bugs out and the penicilan on the mould heals the infection. Not sure how you would apply this to your ear though! ronmaldo

Aussie | 02-11-2008 02:15 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by RonaldoB (Post 962484) The ancient Scots used to put mouldy rye bread slopped with honey on their wounds. Pretty effective at the time.. the honey keeps the bugs out and the penicilan on the mould heals the infection. Not sure how you would apply this to your ear though! ronmaldo
A Q tip? :D

Glass | 02-11-2008 02:45 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF you could always go Van Gogh.... anyone second that?

damoc | 02-11-2008 05:51 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF propolis from the bee hive has very good topical antibiotic properties ie its good if you can apply it directly to the infection/wound

Tn...Andy | 02-11-2008 05:57 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF I'd probably make up some collodial silver, lay over on my side and pour it in the ear.

phideaux | 02-11-2008 07:50 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by Wakeness (Post 962457) I was thinking about this, and it would be mighty uncomfortable to get an ear infection whilst living in the bush with no doctors around... I know that mould on bread is a source of penicillin, but how much would you nedd? Where else can you find a source for this?
Why not stock up on antibiiotics, as you would ammo or food? Here are a couple of online sources. http://www.1Drugstore-Online.com (based in Thailand) http://www.4cornerspharmacy.com (New Zealand) They both stock a wide variety of antibiotics, available to anyone, without a doctor's prescription. I've used them both for years (for other meds), They ship immediately, and it's in your home mailbox in 7-10 days. I am a 100% satisfied customer of these sources, but DYODD. Technically, I think ordering meds from outside the US is illegal, so just be aware of the "risk." But they are happy to have your business, 4 Corners even has a toll-free 800 number in the US.

dlm1968 | 02-11-2008 07:57 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Another source would be pet antibiotics. You can buy these often times without a prescription, just have to do a little digging. They are exactly the same as human antibiotics just given different names. If course you would need some sort of medical referrence book to properly dose a human.

jaima | 02-11-2008 08:17 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Please keep penicillin allergies in mind when you self prescribe. A lot of the pet antibiotics available at the feed stores are penicillin based.

RealityCheck | 02-11-2008 08:53 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF If colloidal silver works half as good as people claim that should be all you need, and its easy to make. Its better to have something you can make your self rather then just stockpiling meds. I personally prefer ozone over everything. Its expensive to get a medical grade generator but in the long run well worth it since it can cure almost any infection including viruses. I haven't found anything in the realm of alternative health that comes anywhere near the potential of ozone. I think it will be especially important if TPTB unleash a bio-attack like bird flu. Of course you need to store some O2 and have electricity to run it so its wise to have some other meds if you dont have back up power because unfortunately it can't be stored. For wounds and skin infections ozonated olive oil works great and can be stored indefinitely in the fridge.

jaima | 02-11-2008 09:02 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF I have no luck with colloidal silver. My Sister used to make it and I had gallons of colloidal silver, gold and copper. I even tried the expensive new nano stuff with no results. Just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean it has not helped others though. People really are individual and what works for some might not work for others. For the record when my Sister died the Coroner and Police Department became rather focused on her colloidals. They confiscated all of them, tested them and did an extremely thorough blood chemistry of metals and toxins. They seemed very disappointed that the colloidals did not kill her and that they found the metal levels in her blood only slightly elavated. They never returned the confiscated material.

jaima | 02-11-2008 09:46 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF The best line of herbal products I have used for infections and chronic conditions is Raintree. The website is loaded with info and its worth spending some time reading. The frames drove me nuts though. LOL http://www.rain-tree.com/rtmprod.htmrbal

Awoke | 02-11-2008 04:10 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 962648) Why not stock up on antibiiotics, as you would ammo or food? Here are a couple of online sources.
Yeah, but Antibiotics have a shelf life. I was hoping to find a renewable resource for the DIYer. Never heard of Ozone for a treatment, or colloidal metals... I'll have to look into that stuff.

mtnman | 02-11-2008 04:33 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by Wakeness (Post 962457) I was thinking about this, and it would be mighty uncomfortable to get an ear infection whilst living in the bush with no doctors around... I know that mould on bread is a source of penicillin, but how much would you nedd? Where else can you find a source for this?
You don�t have vinegar in your supplies? Best thing around for an earache. Lots of other uses too.

Awoke | 02-11-2008 04:40 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF I'm just starting to hoard supplies, and it's a slow process, because all my FRNs are tied up constantly.

phideaux | 02-11-2008 04:47 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by Wakeness (Post 963355) Yeah, but Antibiotics have a shelf life. I was hoping to find a renewable resource for the DIYer.
I bought some doxy online and the expiration date was 2 1/2 years out. Plus, store them in a cool dry place (like food and ammo) and except for tetracycline, antibiotics will be good for years beyond the official expiration date. I can't find it right now but there was another thread about a week ago discussing the long life of meds beyond what the bozo bureaucrats at the FDA require to be put on the label.

Jonas Parker | 02-11-2008 04:51 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 963435) ... except for tetracyline, antibiotics will be good for years beyond the official expiration date.
Put the tetracycline in your freezer and it won't age until you take it out.

PuzzlePieces | 02-11-2008 05:59 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Penicillin Production: http://goldenagora.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1084

melbo | 02-12-2008 12:27 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Preparing for Biological and Chemical Terrorism: A Practical Guide to Antibiotics and Their Usage for Survival by Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H. Tetrahedron, LLC Sandpoint, Idaho Disclaimer and Background This information is for educational purposes only. It is intended to help in the event of biological and chemical weapons attacks on civilian populations. It is not provided in order to diagnose or treat any disease, illness, or injury of the body, mind, or spirit. Full article here:

Silverstone | 02-12-2008 03:23 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Thyme, Cinnamon, Clove oils for colds/sinuses. Essential oils. Put in steamer (face steamer) and inhale, about 2 drops of each oil in water reserviour. Inhale 6 times, 3x a day, will kill a lot of bacteria; has even tested to kill strep. Knocks out sinus infections fast without antibiotics. Garlic, don't forget good ole garlic and onion. Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide (I've read about this, haven't tried it) but I do use regular HP for a lot of things (and baking soda). Honey for wounds, or bread soaked in milk, something in the compound draws out infections. Epson salts in water will draw out infections. Yucca/Devil's claw for pain/inflammation. Earaches: slice a big onion, wrap in wet rag, nuke, hold warm onion/rag on ear to drain, then a drop or two of hydrogen perioxide & little alcohol after draining. Do a few times a day until it feels better. Cough syrup: Bermuda onion, slow cook down with some honey/lemon and a little water until it's a thick liquid, nasty tasting, but works. Don't forget the Vicks or Unkers! Enchineaca, natural antibiotic. Valerian Root, natural sleep/pain aid. These are the only ones I've used that I know have worked; I did use my collidial silver machine, and I used it on sores and stuff and it worked, but I didn't drink it long enough to know for sure the effects because I couldn't get it calibrated right and kept getting funny looking CS; not the right color, too yellow or too clear..I will play around with it again to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Elderberry is suppose to work well too. As far as real antibiotics, same thing, you can get it from animal sites, but you really need to know your dosage and what is really wrong with you before you go that route. PS: I made the mistake once of vaccinating my mares in foal with a live vaccine! Granted, it was scheduled for that time, and I gave my records to the vet that was monitoring them, and he said, you did what? He did concede some big TB farms still used the live as they believed it worked better...but honesty, if I had known it was the live one, I would have never given it. Slight misunderstanding in the fine print and my knowledge of this particular vaccine, it was the correct one, just live (the live is more risky). So be careful if you go the route of animal vaccines/antibiotics, very careful.

jaima | 02-12-2008 08:39 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF A quick word on vaccines because that is a whole subject in itself. It is possible in both humans and animals to have a blood draw and have the lab check titers for almost every disease to see if there is still active immunity. Unneeded vaccines can be avoided this way. My Vet does it. It costs more but she is aware that unneeded vaccines can stress the immune system and offers the service. The exception of course is Rabies because of state law.

Conk | 02-13-2008 02:34 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 962698) If colloidal silver works half as good as people claim that should be all you need, and its easy to make. Its better to have something you can make your self rather then just stockpiling meds. I personally prefer ozone over everything. Its expensive to get a medical grade generator but in the long run well worth it since it can cure almost any infection including viruses. I haven't found anything in the realm of alternative health that comes anywhere near the potential of ozone. I think it will be especially important if TPTB unleash a bio-attack like bird flu. Of course you need to store some O2 and have electricity to run it so its wise to have some other meds if you dont have back up power because unfortunately it can't be stored. For wounds and skin infections ozonated olive oil works great and can be stored indefinitely in the fridge.
Last week I had a weird swelling (infection?) behind my rear molar. Likely some stuck food. It was very painful. I put a spoon of c. silver in my mouth three times a day and held it for a minute or two, then swallowed. The next afternoon I cancelled my dentist appointment. The swelling and pain were gone. Who knows?

justabeginner | 02-13-2008 09:32 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 962648) Why not stock up on antibiiotics, as you would ammo or food? Here are a couple of online sources. http://www.1Drugstore-Online.com (based in Thailand) http://www.4cornerspharmacy.com (New Zealand) They both stock a wide variety of antibiotics, available to anyone, without a doctor's prescription. I've used them both for years (for other meds), They ship immediately, and it's in your home mailbox in 7-10 days. I am a 100% satisfied customer of these sources, but DYODD. Technically, I think ordering meds from outside the US is illegal, so just be aware of the "risk." But they are happy to have your business, 4 Corners even has a toll-free 800 number in the US.
Stocking up on antibiotics now wouldn't do much good. They have a shorter shelf life than most other drugs due to their nature. If you do though, Cipro, PCN and doxycycline would be my choices.

GreenSpirit | 02-13-2008 09:37 PM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF Quote:
Originally Posted by RonaldoB (Post 962484) The ancient Scots used to put mouldy rye bread slopped with honey on their wounds. Pretty effective at the time.. the honey keeps the bugs out and the penicilan on the mould heals the infection. Not sure how you would apply this to your ear though! ronmaldo
If you ever do, however, let me know, so I can get a snapshot!:D

Awoke | 02-14-2008 10:58 AM
Re: Antibiotics WTSHTF So my wife had her wisdom teeth pulled today, and they gave her a perscription for some antibiotics. She doesn't want to take them, so I can store them for later. They are Gen-clindamycin HCL, 150mg capsules. The perscription also included Florastor, which she was to take in tandem with the antibiotics, to replace the "Healthy bacterias" in her stomach while she takes the antibiotics. Would it be best to put them in the freezer?

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