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Golden Rivet | 10-18-2009 07:46 AM
Bug out vehicle tires/tyres I thought this might be of interest to those of you with bug-out vehicles (large or small). Wouldn't want your getaway being delayed by a puncture, would you? If you haven't used this stuff before I can highly recommend it. Just pulled a 2 inch long wood screw out of the rear tyre on my motorcycle with no loss of air. Saved me heaps of trouble and has just paid for itself. Apparently there's a heavy duty version that will literally bulletproof your skins. The video looks a little dated, and corny in parts, but it covers all you need to know. The bulletproof stuff starts at about 3 mins 50 secs on the video. I'm wondering if this stuff will protect against those 'stingers' that the police use? Anyway, hope it is of interest to somebody. I ordered my (standard) Ultraseal from eBay. In the US you may be lucky enough to buy it locally. You Tube
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mayhem | 10-18-2009 10:08 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Don't know what you paid on fleebay for it, but Gemplers has the following. Ultraseal Tire Sealant -- Commercial-grade 5-gallon http://www.gemplers.com/img/ultrasea...lant-T1319.jpg Price: $184.95 http://www.gemplers.com/product/T131...grade-5-gallon Ultraseal Tire Sealant -- 5-gal. Bulletproof-grade http://www.gemplers.com/img/ultrasea...lant-T4024.jpg Price: $219.95 http://www.gemplers.com/product/T402...letproof-grade Aluminum Installation Pump for Ultraseal http://www.gemplers.com/img/aluminum...-pump-P229.jpg Price: $173.25 http://www.gemplers.com/product/P229...Pump-Ultraseal

gypsybiker45 | 10-18-2009 10:15 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres This stuff also has a side benefit of self balancing the tires as it distributes throughout as the wheel spins.

gypsybiker45 | 10-18-2009 10:18 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Rivet (Post 1978422) I thought this might be of interest to those of you with bug-out vehicles (large or small). Wouldn't want your getaway being delayed by a puncture, would you? If you haven't used this stuff before I can highly recommend it. Just pulled a 2 inch long wood screw out of the rear tyre on my motorcycle with no loss of air. Saved me heaps of trouble and has just paid for itself. Apparently there's a heavy duty version that will literally bulletproof your skins. The video looks a little dated, and corny in parts, but it covers all you need to know. The bulletproof stuff starts at about 3 mins 50 secs on the video. I'm wondering if this stuff will protect against those 'stingers' that the police use? Anyway, hope it is of interest to somebody. I ordered my (standard) Ultraseal from eBay. In the US you may be lucky enough to buy it locally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XZ_pjnsmEU
No, the "stingers" are too large a hole to seal quickly enough.those dont just puncture they slice and shred

Jimfrancisco | 10-18-2009 12:40 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres That stuff is great in an emergency - but it also means the tire can't be fixed properly if needed. And I wouldn't like to drive on a tire sealed by this stuff at 100mph...

BullionCubed | 10-18-2009 04:39 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres http://www.ride-on.com/ this stuff is the best. does not damage the tire. (Edit) Ultraseal looks better. http://www.stromtrooper.com/showthread.php?t=35027

Golden Rivet | 10-18-2009 04:51 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfrancisco (Post 1978681) That stuff is great in an emergency - but it also means the tire can't be fixed properly if needed. And I wouldn't like to drive on a tire sealed by this stuff at 100mph...
To try and answer some of the points in the above posts (bear in mind I'm not an expert on the stuff, just a happy customer): I'm afraid that, in the country where I'm currently located, I have to pay whatever I can get the stuff for on eBay. They claim it is a permanent fix. Of course, there will be limits as to what it can seal but there again, there will be limits as to what a conventional fix can repair too. In my case it certainly saved me hours of hassle. I'm located in a non-English speaking country and the incident occurred after normal business hours. I wouldn't have known who to contact in order to assist with a rear wheel flat on a motorcycle tyre. As for the quality of repair: Literally minutes after pulling the screw out I was doing 80 kph on my motorcycle, and a few minutes after that I was hitting 100 kph. No deflation, no blowout, no wobble or imbalance. It may not be the answer to all punctures but in many instances it will certainly prevent delays (just when you don't need them). I'd already made the decision to fit it to all of my tyres before the incident occurred. This just proves my decision to have been a good one. Motorcycles are great but its just not practical to carry a spare or to do roadside repairs (day or night). I can certainly see times when this stuff could literally save your life. Weigh up the pros and cons and make your choice. I've made mine.

Jimfrancisco | 10-18-2009 05:45 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to "deflate" the stuff in any way - just warning that once it's been used, you can't get the tyre fixed. I use it on my boat trailer wheels, and so far no problems. But I won't use it on my Audi tyres - at $270 a pop, I would rather have the option of fixing them and carry a spare!

917601 | 10-18-2009 07:47 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 1978498) Don't know what you paid on fleebay for it, but Gemplers has the following. Ultraseal Tire Sealant -- Commercial-grade 5-gallon http://www.gemplers.com/img/ultrasea...lant-T1319.jpg Price: $184.95 http://www.gemplers.com/product/T131...grade-5-gallon Ultraseal Tire Sealant -- 5-gal. Bulletproof-grade http://www.gemplers.com/img/ultrasea...lant-T4024.jpg Price: $219.95 http://www.gemplers.com/product/T402...letproof-grade Aluminum Installation Pump for Ultraseal http://www.gemplers.com/img/aluminum...-pump-P229.jpg Price: $173.25 http://www.gemplers.com/product/P229...Pump-Ultraseal
For the uniformed-this stuff is what DoD, DOS and most agencies use-for a reason.All other stuff, does not come close.Ultra-Seal tested at Aberdeen kept a tire shot 20 something times with .308 still rolling.

Ash_Williams | 10-18-2009 09:57 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Just out of curiosity, does it seal your valve too? Can you still add and release air the normal way?

Golden Rivet | 10-19-2009 05:24 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Valve operates normally. No problems. I believe that the UK Royal Mail use it on all of their vehicles too (if the Ultraseal advertising is correct). Extends tyre life even if you don't get a puncture or get the tyres shot out driving through a police road block. Ps. If you buy the small bottles, rather than the commercial size container in the pics above, there is no need for a special pump. I believe that you'll need two bottles for a car or a single bottle for a motorcycle. Of course it works out cheaper if you get the biggie container and you'll have enough to do lots of vehicles. I'm pretty sure that there is no shelf-life on Ultraseal but if there is a shelf-life it'll be a long one.

917601 | 10-19-2009 09:52 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Rivet (Post 1979697) Valve operates normally. No problems. I believe that the UK Royal Mail use it on all of their vehicles too (if the Ultraseal advertising is correct). Extends tyre life even if you don't get a puncture or get the tyres shot out driving through a police road block. Ps. If you buy the small bottles, rather than the commercial size container in the pics above, there is no need for a special pump. I believe that you'll need two bottles for a car or a single bottle for a motorcycle. Of course it works out cheaper if you get the biggie container and you'll have enough to do lots of vehicles. I'm pretty sure that there is no shelf-life on Ultraseal but if there is a shelf-life it'll be a long one.
The draw back is the "bullet proof" grade is not to be used in high speed.They make a "lighter" grade for passenger vehicles, which can be used in higher speeds.There is a chart for the amount needed for each tire size.I needed 5 gal to fill 5 9x16 NDT,s. Generally,use bullet grade if less than 40 mph.It does extend tire life as you rarely have to re-fill to maintain tire pressure.

tulsamal | 10-19-2009 11:09 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Quote:
Ps. If you buy the small bottles, rather than the commercial size container in the pics above, there is no need for a special pump.
That's exactly what I was going to ask. Hard to say I'm "saving money" if I have to buy a required $170 stainless steel pump! Gregg

TTAZZMAN | 10-19-2009 12:44 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash_Williams (Post 1979391) Just out of curiosity, does it seal your valve too? Can you still add and release air the normal way?
I use "Slime" in my farm/off road tires and it will clog a valve stem when you let air OUT of a tire. so if i let air out of a tire i make sure to always end with a blast of air into the tire to clear any slime out of the valve stem but other than letting air out of the tire it doesnt clog it in normal use

Unclad Lad | 10-21-2009 11:37 PM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres Quote:
The draw back is the "bullet proof" grade is not to be used in high speed.They make a "lighter" grade for passenger vehicles, which can be used in higher speeds.
Why not? What happens if you do?

Fullpower | 10-22-2009 01:15 AM
Re: Bug out vehicle tires/tyres I always run 10 ply tires on wife's everyday driver.. My "b o v" runs 12 ply tires, normally keep 75 PSI in the pickup tires, 110 psi if hauling rocks, or a load of ammo. Could probably go a hundred miles with no air at all, if we keep the speed real low. I have run a hundred miles per hour with a rear flat tire on a motorcycle, felt a little " squishy" passing motorhomes, but stayed upright, and got me home. the tire was smoking a bit, and REALLY stinky in the garage, but no fire. I stuck a few of the string type patches in the cycle tire, and in the morning, it took air pressure okay, and I rode tro work on it.

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