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Donnie740 | 07-29-2006 12:45 AM
Time to have a well drilled? I guess if you're stuck in the city having a well drilled isn't an option, but for anyone in the country with a bit of land I'd STRONGLY recommend having a well drilled. Go to a depth of 75 to 100' and make sure you've got a hand pump on it. No worries about electricity to run an old fashioned hand pump. And no need to be in line ups for bottled water.

Indy | 07-29-2006 12:47 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie740 (Post 314253) I guess if you're stuck in the city having a well drilled isn't an option, but for anyone in the country with a bit of land I'd STRONGLY recommend having a well drilled. Go to a depth of 75 to 100' and make sure you've got a hand pump on it. No worries about electricity to run an old fashioned hand pump. And no need to be in line ups for bottled water.
or solar pump

Infidel | 07-29-2006 01:07 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Southern California and Northen Oregon ground water is contaminated with TCE. the most vile of compounds http://www.tceblog.com/

Ponce Cuba | 07-29-2006 01:21 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Free creek by gravity running water 24/7 with 20 pounds preassure :D

Waylon | 07-29-2006 01:27 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
make sure you've got a hand pump on it.
Good suggestion. I always hated these when I was growing up. There was always a wasper nest in my grandfather's no matter how many times we killed them. Like Ponce, I am creek fed on my bugout land.

electric-amish | 07-29-2006 02:04 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Drill a well base on the Boy Scout moto or is there something specific and timely I have missed? Creek water is a great source as long as the upstream and water shead are clean. Electric-Amish

Curtman | 07-29-2006 02:16 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? You don't just decide how many feet you are going to drill a well, you drill till you get the best water and preferably it will be in a gravelly section of the aquifer. It may be 30 feet or it could be several hundred. You need to consult with a driller in the area also because there are times you can go to far and lose the best hope you had. I have drilled and had drilled several and have even driving a sand point by hand in my younger day with a fence post driver, hard work and took many days but hey, it was nearly free but for the point and pipe 2" and a Jacuzzi pump I installed with a bladder expansion tank. The ex wife needed water and power after 8 months without and another baby on the way, go figure. So much for natural living. I kept my outhouse for another few years though, that would have just been too much for me to give up.

thorgrim | 07-29-2006 03:39 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? I heard from a guy that was building new houses in my area that he is installing meters on the wells of new houses he is building. Says they are planning to put them on all old wells as well in the next few years. I think a creek would be better in you can access one and it flows all year. If you had to take water covertly you could do it if needed.

wallew | 07-29-2006 10:00 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? First, via the UN's MAB (Man and Biodiersity program) ALL wells will in the end HAVE to have a meter on it so they can charge you for the water you are using. So, don't drill ONE well. Drill one well they can see and two they can't. If you don't believe the item about the UN and their MAB program, realize that it was passed back in 1964 AND signed by good old JFK.

Tn...Andy | 07-29-2006 10:12 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Agree with Curtman......you don't just drill a depth you have in mind.....because many places, 75-100' will just leave you a dry hole in the ground. In our little valley, I happen to be familiar with a lot of the wells.....they vary from 60' ( and almost an artesian well.....water right at the top of the casing ) to 720' that produces a pitiful 1/2 gal/min. I've have 5 wells drilled here personally, and they vary from 120' to 380'. We use a gravity fed spring ( and own the watershed behind and above it ), but even it gets sorta low in the dry part of the fall. Last year, I had a well drilled on my personal place just as a backup....haven't even stuck a pump in it yet. On metering of wells......I understand this is gaining in popularity among govt weenies......I know in the time I've had my own wells drilled ( from late 80's to the one last fall ), they have started recording the exact location using GPS and sending that info to the State. The well driller company owner comes out, stakes where you tell him you want the well, and then takes a GPS reading of that location. Of course, after he left and the drilling crew came, I moved the stake about 300yds......and so that GPS info isn't worth shit as to the real location of the well.......ahahahahaaaaa. NOW Part 2 of that Plan: what I will do when I do put a pump in my well is dig around the casing a couple feet down, take a cutting torch to the 6" casing that is sticking out of the ground about 2', cut off about 3-4' of the casing including the "official" well sticker of the State of Tennessee that says "do not remove" ( Hey.....I ain't.....I'll leave it stuck right to that pc of casing.....ahahahaha), take that pc down to the location where the well is supposed to be and plant it in the ground.....then cap off the REAL well with a sealed cap, and go ahead and plumb it into the basement, cover the whole deal with a foot of dirt. Down the road, govt weenie ever shows up to see my 'well'......"yeah, I got one.....but never used it.....sure was a waste of money......but right over there it is.....just like the GPS location says".......ahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa......... Screw the whole bunch of tax loving govt weenies.

runcible | 07-29-2006 01:14 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Can you put both a hand pump and an electric deep well pump on the same well? How much more does it cost for a hand pump?

Ardent Listener | 07-29-2006 01:44 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? The inlaws and us are tapped into an undergroud stream. I would like information on an old fashion hand water pump though. Anyone?

Ragnarok | 07-29-2006 03:41 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 314445) Of course, after he left and the drilling crew came, I moved the stake about 300yds... Down the road, govt weenie ever shows up to see my 'well'......"yeah, I got one.....but never used it.....sure was a waste of money......but right over there it is.....just like the GPS location says".......ahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........
Did you put in a "blank" length of casing anyway, as a decoy? Ragnarok

Tn...Andy | 07-29-2006 04:13 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok (Post 314652) Did you put in a "blank" length of casing anyway, as a decoy? Ragnarok
Haven't done it yet.....was going to just use the 4' or so I take off the real well. Do have a septic tank down there about the same location I use for my shop.....guess I could knock a hole in that, cement the casing in that hole, and that way if the State ever DOES happen take the cap off the "well", they could drop a rock in and hear 'water'......could even let them 'sample' it....yeah, THAT'S why I don't use it.....water just SMELLED bad to me.........ahahahahaaaa

Ragnarok | 07-29-2006 05:28 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 314674) that way if the State ever DOES happen take the cap off the "well", they could drop a rock in and hear 'water'......could even let them 'sample' it....yeah, THAT'S why I don't use it.....water just SMELLED bad to me.........ahahahahaaaa
And if I read that right, I assume you would tell them that only after making sure they were good and thirsty from the well-thought-out long uphill hike to the well and the nice cool glass of, um... water... that you drew from it and offered them? :D Ragnarok

mtnman | 07-29-2006 06:57 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? We have a natural spring. No better water in the world, and it never runs dry.

AMforPM | 07-29-2006 07:44 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Though I am in town, I'm pretty sure a wet weather spring up the hill has a year round streamlet under our yard, and that water probably is not deep. (Tree patterns are the clue. All down the block wild pecans, which love water, and Sycamores, ditto, thrive in something of a pattern in a generally dry climate) I would need a good water witch to locate it on my 2 lots, though. It is not likely big. I am going with roof water for now. Both kinds are likely polluted, but we will treat, then filter. Andy, your plan is great, and hilarious!

thorgrim | 07-30-2006 03:46 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Yeah, Andy is cracking me up!

Tn...Andy | 07-30-2006 07:06 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? I'm just here for the entertainment value......aahahahaaa

Walter Mitty | 07-30-2006 10:14 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Charge someone for Water they find on their own property? Next they will want to strap Meters on all our a$$es and charge us for the Air we breathe. Carnegie is laughing in his grave and the founding fathers are shaking their collective heads in bewilderment. (Sorry for the language)

AMforPM | 08-03-2006 02:46 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Yes, I think they intend to claim all aquifers. I hope they do not demand that you cannot use the rain that falls on your roof either. Just in case my system is not going to show from the street or the air. The tank will be in a garden shed, with the only clue being where the downspout goes, and that none too obvious. That will keep the sun off the tank anyway. With a pipe and faucet inside the house from the tank. I'm not going to hook up the sink, etc, because we will treat and filter that water if used for anything but the garden. Besides, that will encourage conservation. If we have to use that water, we will go to sunshower showers (heated in the window box then hung up in the regular shower) and nix the flush toilet. That way the water will go a long way. Our clothes washer is low water and energy use, and if water gets really tight, I have a small hand clothes washer that uses even less water and soap. If we were rural, a well is a much better system. But for town, this will work if TPTB do some weird quarantine disaster and turn the water off. I keep looking at what they are doing in Iraq and Lebanon (ever since they transplanted Blackwater to New Orleans). And destroying civilian access to water is routine. Gaza too.

TheSimpleton | 08-03-2006 03:54 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? I regret to say that they have already outlawed collecting water from roofs and cisterns in South America. I forget what country, but the clouds were in competition with Mansanto, I think. It started nationwide riots. I can't imagine why. Found this looking for that, though: http://www.washingtonvotes.org/Legis....aspx?ID=31223 2005 Senate Bill 5113 (Regarding rainwater collection permit) They are already "regulating" the collection of water in North America. TS

RiverRat | 08-03-2006 04:41 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? :cool1: Check your state laws regarding drilling water wells or installation of septic systems. Water and sewer districts chartered by some of the states have 100% jurisdiction over where you can drill a well or install a septic system. Example: You buy a piece of property ( raw land) inside the technical land boundries of an established water/sewer district. When you go to the county to apply for a septic system or well drilling permit.........guess what ? You are not allowed to install a septic system or drill a well without the approval of the water and sewer commisioner(s) in writing. Let's say the nearest city water line you can tap onto is 1/2 mile away from your property...........the water district in my area charges $3600.00 for a meter installation.......tap and pipe installation is $6.00 per foot. So.........you're looking at about $20,000.00 just to tap onto city water. Plan B ? There is no plan B............you cannot drill a well without approval from the water district...........which is not going to happen. Bet you really want to find the asshole that sold you the property and kill him,huh ? Good luck............this happens about a dozen times a year in my area. The same as above goes for septic systems.........the price is comparable to water. This is how some areas limit urban growth.This is also perfectly legal as you will find out. Exceptions are friends and relatives of the commisioners and political golfing buddies who ignore the rules and do as they please.........they can get a permit to drill a well or install a septic system easy as pie. Of course,a developer can cut a deal with the good old boys and circumvent the permit laws easily..........saw it done many times........wells drilled and septic systems installed right in the middle of the district........but an individual not well connected with the right people is screwed to hell and back. Drill your own.......or dig your own ? It can be done..........but if DEHEC and the EPA catch you after the fact....or your neighbor reports you.............goodby home..........they will condem the property for spite and BIG serious fines are the name of the game. Its a protected racket in some areas...........you are officially warned. Best bet...........buy a property that has a reliable spring with good drinking water...........or a small stream free from upstream pollution. This scenario may not apply in some states............but be careful.........the more scarce water becomes..........the more laws will be passed to protect J6Ps' status quo.............not a pretty picture. Wish this was a joke people.............but sadly it's for real in a lot of our areas in the US.

Waylon | 08-04-2006 12:15 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Next they will want to strap Meters on all our a$$es and charge us for the Air we breathe.
I sure wouldn't want to breathe the air out of my ass....uggghh

drewk4 | 08-04-2006 02:04 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 315194) I'm just here for the entertainment value......aahahahaaa
I love this guy!

silverJeep | 08-04-2006 09:49 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Funny thread. What's funny is, I've been collecting 2 liter bottles in the garage for bug out purposes. Wife thinks I'm nuts! And hates having all these bottles in the garage (only about 20 so far). BTW, haven't filled them yet, just empty bottles. Night before last I woke up a 3:30 (baby was crying, got her quieted down) and then heard a gurgling sound. Sounded like it was coming from everywhere. After walking around the house, It was mainly coming from the hot water heater in the garage. No leaks anywhere. Went back up and my wife was up by now trying to figure out what I was doing. She went into the bathroom and turned on the water, and heard what sounded like a high pressure air hose. Not blowing air, but sucking air. Totally confused and half asleep, I called the water Co. and woke a guy up who said they'd get right on it. Next morning it was barely on, but lots of spurts and air pockets. On my way to work, I found out about a mile and a half down the hill there was a water line busted. They were just finishing up the repairs. Because I was uphill of the burst, gravity was sucking all the water out of my lines, as well as my neighbor's. Now my wife is Ok with my bottles in the garage. In fact, she wants me to fill them up ASAP. HA!!! Made me REALLY think about getting a well. ...then I find this thread!! Might need to get Andy to help with the logistics of it all. Although my "House Drought" was only a few hours (and I slept through most of them). It really made us think about how crucial water is, and how scary it is when you don't have it, don't know why you don't have it, and don't know when it will be back on. VERY effective tool in creating a panic. At least with a Hurricane, you know they're "working on it", and there will be "relief effort" to help out. I want a well. ...unmetered well that is. I appreciate this forum. ...and thread. SilverJeep

Anty Ep | 08-04-2006 11:49 PM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie740 (Post 314253) I guess if you're stuck in the city having a well drilled isn't an option, but for anyone in the country with a bit of land I'd STRONGLY recommend having a well drilled. Go to a depth of 75 to 100' and make sure you've got a hand pump on it. No worries about electricity to run an old fashioned hand pump. And no need to be in line ups for bottled water.
great idea about the hand pump. thing is, plan ahead to buy one. I talked to a driller about this once a few years ago and he said his source was backlogged with handpump orders over a year. this fellow was not the brightest bulb, so he might just have lacked the initiative to find another source, but I wouldnt be surprised if demand excess supply for such devices

thorgrim | 08-05-2006 06:31 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? You know I Am really getting sick of this whole control grid they are ramming down our necks. Hope tha general public starts to wake up soon. Arghhhh!:pissedoff:

AMforPM | 08-05-2006 06:41 AM
Re: Time to have a well drilled? No kidding. Tag your chickens and your well? Which in the light of donated water being kept out of New Orleans makes holing cisterns in Fallujah and wrecking water supplies with bombs in Lebanon and Gaza look like test projects. Some of the control stuff is hard to believe, and that may be why the wake up is slow. I know I have a hard time getting my mind around it.

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