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Unclad Lad | 05-10-2008 03:40 AM
I don't get it Quote:
The magic Of Aerobic Oxygen Plus - the water purifier.� Aerobic Oxygen Plus has been around for many, many years.� It is used by travelers to purify drinking water, particularly in foreign countries such as Mexico, India and the Far East.� Aerobic Oxygen will remove chlorine from the water and within 30 seconds kill all anaerobic bacteria. Reports from the Baylor Research Foundation found that Aerobic Oxygen killed streptococcus, giardia lamblia, salmonella, cholera, E. coli, pseudomonas, and staphylococcus - to name most�of common bacteria. To purify liquids, add 5 drops per 8oz. glass of water, juice, milk, etc. For water storage tanks it is recommended by the manufacturer that you add 20 drops per gallon or one pint of concentrate per 500 gallons. The water stored stays "potable" for up to 5 years.� It is a good idea to store some Aerobic Oxygen in your food storage as well as using it to store your water.
I'm a skeptic by nature and training, so when I buy stuff, especially of a prep nature, I like to understand how it works. I understand how firearms work, for example, even if I can't assemble one in the dark or machine it on a lathe. I understand ceramic filtration of water, and reverse osmosis. I had two years of chemistry in high school, but the way this product is described when I see it for sale sounds like magic or snake oil. But it's been selling for years and I've yet to see it denounced. How does it work? In adding oxygen to the water, how is it different from, say, hydrogen peroxide?

Canadian-guerilla | 05-10-2008 07:28 AM
Re: I don't get it http://happyhovelfoods.com/oxy_keypeg_prices.htm this is interesting UL Quote:
Aerobic Oxygen will remove chlorine from the water
i always thought that chlorine bleach was a good way to purify drinking water $25 for 2oz / $130 for 16oz maybe i'll see if i can find out what the actual ingredients are in this product but for now, imho, fear-mongering sales pitch

Merlin | 05-10-2008 07:47 AM
Re: I don't get it The other question we should ask is what kind of shelf life does this product have? Hydrogen peroxide, for instance, loses its potency over time, even when stored in the dark. Is aerobic oxygen the same way? So, in addition to wondering whether it ever worked in the first place, mine has been on the shelf now for 4 years and I have no idea whether it still works or not.

Unclad Lad | 05-10-2008 05:11 PM
Re: I don't get it It looks like I'm not the only one with questions.

silver_addiction | 05-10-2008 05:30 PM
Re: I don't get it Simple organisms cannot survive in an oxygen rich environment. The simplist example is when you take hydrogen peroxide and put it in your mouth, where there is billions of bacteria. The H202 will kill them, because they cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. Take Noble prize winning Otto Warburg's findings that if you deprive any cell of 67% of it's required oxygen, it will always become cancerous. That is becasue the cancer (a primitive lifeform) cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. The point is, this product increases the oxygen supply in water, thereby killing bacteria. If this is a subject that is of interest to you, there is an amazing book out there called "Flood your body with oxygen" by Ed McCabe. He is the leading authority on using different types/potenticies to do everything from purify water to killing any cancer/virus in the body. There is also another gentleman named William Hitt running the William Hitt Center in Tiajuana Mexico. This system he uses place one IV in one arm and another IV in the other arm and a process is done where bolld is taken out of one arm and "bubbled" through an oxygen generator, and released back into the other arm. People literally on their death bed have become 100% healthy after sessions using this oxygen therapy. Not supprisingly, it is banned in the US. There are a couple countries in europe where it is used as well. Oxygen in bar none the strongest and safest way to kill bacteria and virus's known to man.

Dick | 05-10-2008 05:57 PM
Re: I don't get it Quote:
Originally Posted by silver_addiction (Post 1098075) There is also another gentleman named William Hitt running the William Hitt Center in Tiajuana Mexico. This system he uses place one IV in one arm and another IV in the other arm and a process is done where bolld is taken out of one arm and "bubbled" through an oxygen generator, and released back into the other arm. People literally on their death bed have become 100% healthy after sessions using this oxygen therapy. Not supprisingly, it is banned in the US. There are a couple countries in europe where it is used as well. Oxygen in bar none the strongest and safest way to kill bacteria and virus's known to man.
Isn't this a form of ozone therapy? Ozone = o3 = good stuff.

Ash_Williams | 05-10-2008 07:51 PM
Re: I don't get it Quote:
It is a good idea to store some Aerobic Oxygen in your food storage as well as using it to store your water.
That will go well with the oxygen absorbers.

Dick | 05-10-2008 08:04 PM
Re: I don't get it Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash_Williams (Post 1098186) That will go well with the oxygen absorbers.
That is a question that I asked myself. Here one is supposed to keep oxygen out of your food, and then we have a source that says put oxygen in your food. I don't get it.

TechGuy | 05-10-2008 08:42 PM
Re: I don't get it While pure oxygen will kill bacteria, it also sets up rapid oxidation. You do NOT want oxygen in your food. The oxy absorbers are not there to keep bugs out, it is mainly there to stop the oxidation process.

jaybone | 05-10-2008 09:07 PM
Re: I don't get it aerobic oxygen is like calling something black carbon, or smelly sulfur. oxygen, by definition is aerobic. I did not even look at the info by my guess is it is bunk. oh and there are many organisms that tolerate high levels of h2o2 just fine, such as pseudonomas. They excrete an enzyme that consumes the oxidation potential of peroxide, IMO the best way to disinfect water on the homestead is to filter, boil, filter again, bleach to 2ppm the cleaner you can get the water before adding chlorine, the less likely it is to form byproducts. and in thstf scenario, i am less worried about carcinogens than pathogens.

Unclad Lad | 05-10-2008 09:31 PM
Re: I don't get it Quote:
Simple organisms cannot survive in an oxygen rich environment. The simplist example is when you take hydrogen peroxide and put it in your mouth, where there is billions of bacteria. The H202 will kill them, because they cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. Take Noble prize winning Otto Warburg's findings that if you deprive any cell of 67% of it's required oxygen, it will always become cancerous. That is becasue the cancer (a primitive lifeform) cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. The point is, this product increases the oxygen supply in water, thereby killing bacteria. If this is a subject that is of interest to you, there is an amazing book out there called "Flood your body with oxygen" by Ed McCabe.
Silver Addiction, I'm not disputing the effects of oxygen on many organisms. I'm trying to find out what the heck this "Aerobic Oxygen" is. I don't think it's H2O2--I've had Food-Grade Hydrogen Peroxide before, which is about 35% pure (the stuff you buy at the store is 2%). AFAIK, this stuff hasn't been exposed or debunked. I just want to know what it is, and how it works, since I'm going to end up consuming it. As an aside, I went to an estate sale the other day. One of the items was an anti-static brush for vinyl records. What caught my eye was a little label from the Atomic Energy Commission; the anti-static agent was Polonium! :eek_ma: That isn't an old fashioned product I'd want to use today, but it was an unregulated household product at the dawn of the Atomic Age. I wonder how many toddlers stuck those in their mouths?

Wingmaster05 | 05-11-2008 12:03 AM
Re: I don't get it Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1097569) i always thought that chlorine bleach was a good way to purify drinking water
Chlorine is a good water purifier; you just need to remove it from the water before you consume it. see... http://www.jonbarron.org/newsletters/06/07-03-2006.php and ctrl + f "chlorine".

Unclad Lad | 05-13-2008 11:18 PM
Re: I don't get it Bump to top.

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