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Stealinator | 02-25-2009 04:04 PM
Bulk grains. Anyone know where to find the thread ( I am sure there is one, though could not locate exactly) for best sources for bulk grains, beans (shipped) found this one, looks to already come packed in mylar ( should be repacked? or trust their packing procedures) looking for wheat berries, beans, oats, maybe rice. In Virginia. http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/buy...ead_flour.aspx

CrufflerJJ | 02-25-2009 04:46 PM
Re: Bulk grains. Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 1593483) Anyone know where to find the thread ( I am sure there is one, though could not locate exactly) for best sources for bulk grains, beans (shipped) found this one, looks to already come packed in mylar ( should be repacked? or trust their packing procedures) looking for wheat berries, beans, oats, maybe rice. In Virginia. http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/buy...ead_flour.aspx
I went through this exercise a month or two ago. There are several great sources if you were out "west" (Montana, Idaho), but shipping costs messes things up pretty badly. Heartlandmill.com would have charged me $163 to ship 250# of wheat. Wheatmontana.com would have charged $152 to ship 250# of wheat. THEY MAY HAVE LOCAL RESELLERS in your area - email them to find out. In my case, the nearest reseller is a 2.5 - 3 hour drive each way. Waltonfeed.com is a good source for "stuff" if you can get in on a local bulk buy (contact WF & ask them if that's possible). Otherwise, you're screwed again on UPS shipping. Honeyvillegrain.com has a good variety of grains (as their name might suggest!), and they charge a flat ~$5 per order for shipping. This might be a good way to go for you. Beprepared.com (Emergency Essentials) has a flat ~$12 per order shipping (may have a limit on how many pails can be shipped per order, I dunno). They also sell bagged/oxy absorber containing "superpails" of stuff at what seems to be a reasonable price. Ldscatalog.com sells #10 cans (with oxy absorbers) of red wheat, pinto beans, white rice, and regular rolled oats. The advantage here is FREE SHIPPING. They're also a great source of #10 sized, 7 mil thick mylar bags and oxy absorbers. If you're comfortable mylar bagging stuff yourself in pails, I'd recommend that you go to your local Sam's Club, Costco, or Walmart for big bags of rice. Sam's has it pretty cheap, in 50# bags. Some Sam's Clubs also have bags of dry pinto beans, from what I've read online (my local Sam's stores do not have dried beans). If you have a local organic food place (like Whole Foods), they may be a reasonably priced source of wheat, rye, barley. If you have a Gordon Food Services (GFS) store, they sell 1# bags of barley for $1, which is half the price of Krogers.

Stealinator | 02-25-2009 05:37 PM
Re: Bulk grains. Thanks, lots of good info there.

Golden Buoy | 02-25-2009 06:23 PM
Re: Bulk grains. For Canadian folks, we had good experience from the folks at DaybreakSchoreskyMill.com. They grow and mill their own organic grains in Estavan, Saskatchewan area. Friendly folks and they try to keep prices reasonable.Tell them Pamela in BC says hi.

samwheat | 02-25-2009 07:23 PM
Re: Bulk grains. Hi Stealinator, The best price is by Emergency Essentials .... beprepared.com Shipping is like 15 bucks for 225 lbs of wheat berries ... you can buy more and shipping is the same

Stealinator | 02-25-2009 09:29 PM
Re: Bulk grains. Thanks Sam, the larges qty is the #10 cans? and if so, are they sealed for long term storage? or should be resealed? how many pounds is one of these cans? http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_...Winter%20Wheat Ahh, super pail, missed that somehow. anyway, thanks again.

Goldeneye | 02-26-2009 01:33 AM
Re: Bulk grains. Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Buoy (Post 1593729) For Canadian folks, we had good experience from the folks at DaybreakSchoreskyMill.com. They grow and mill their own organic grains in Estavan, Saskatchewan area. Friendly folks and they try to keep prices reasonable.Tell them Pamela in BC says hi.
Thanks Golden Buoy, http://www.daybreakschereskymill.com...nic_flour.html That web site looks great.. I'll have to skip the shoes and buy some more provisions.. :wink: .. ,,,

Golden Buoy | 02-26-2009 02:14 AM
Re: Bulk grains. By the way, I should mention that my co-prepper says not to put oxy absorbers in seeds or grains held for planting. Something about lack of oxygen killing the seed germ.

CrufflerJJ | 02-26-2009 09:08 AM
Re: Bulk grains. Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Buoy (Post 1594544) By the way, I should mention that my co-prepper says not to put oxy absorbers in seeds or grains held for planting. Something about lack of oxygen killing the seed germ.
Welllll....that sort of depends. In Googling "seed viability oxygen", there's one interesting site that seems to summarize USDA Handbook #506 - Principles and Practices of Seed Storage. See (including sub-pages): http://www.waltonfeed.com/old/self/upack/ag506.html "It seems that every kind of seed has it's own unique criteria for long term storage. Some seeds store better in air. Others store better in nitrogen, and still others do better in a vacuum, carbon dioxide or argon. And others seem to be tolerant to all the different gasses." In some cases (barley, broad beans, corn, peas), storing seeds in an oxygen free environment seems to extend viability... see: http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/co...stract/32/1/97 In other cases..."Seeds of salvia splendens deteriorated seriously when sealed under a vacuum (Chopinet, 1952)" Here's a good (free) document on processing/storage of seeds at home: http://www.savingourseed.org/pdf/See...geVer_1pt3.pdf ...or... http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a That document also makes a reference to "storing seeds in sealed containers where carbon dioxide replaces oxygen in the air thereby slowing down respiration and increasing longevity." I'd be inclined to store seeds in as cold & dry a place as you can.

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