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Little Ant | 11-15-2008 06:41 AM
Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Little bit of a rant here. I have four R.I. Reds that I got to provide eggs for MY familly. With just 28 eggs per week there's not too many leftovers, but I give any extras to a young widow with a teenager next door. There's just enough for our two families. Well, this week a co-worker came to my desk, shoved an empty 18 count egg carton at me, and said, "I've heard you have eggs." I was so shocked I almost fell off my chair. There were others around so I bit my tongue really hard and told her if I gave her 18 eggs my children wouldn't have any. So she replies, "Oh, well I have an smaller 12 count egg carton at home I'll bring instead." Words can not express how angry I was at the gall of this woman to demand I supply her with free eggs. It would be one thing to hint around and leave it to me to offer some eggs or not, but to come complete with egg carton and an 18 counter to boot. Damn, people are getting brazen today. I probably should have brought some in and presented her with a bill. :s15: Instead she got a look that told her just where she can put her egg carton.

Twisted Avatar | 11-15-2008 07:16 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I would gave her a carton with 18 Empty egg shells and told her to kiss my silver @ss Manners goes a long way when you're beggin people for food. Arrogant witch. T

WilliamC | 11-15-2008 07:18 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" 17 empty egg shells and 1 empty shotgun shell. Just as a hint.

steel_ag | 11-15-2008 08:02 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" 1 Attachment(s) Do you think people perceive you as being weak?.... Maybe it's time for a little ant to become a big ant

Maddie | 11-15-2008 08:22 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I would have probably fallen out of my chair laughing at the woman. I really can't believe the nerve and social ineptitude of some people. I've had acquaintances come up and say, "Oh, I need to use your truck this weekend. I'm helping a friend move." One guy was actually helping a friend move out of state! Needless to say, they don't get to borrow my truck. I don't mind helping good friends move, but they have to ask nicely, and I don't turn over the keys to anyone.

eyeofliberty | 11-15-2008 08:22 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" "Obama told me I could have your eggs!" Redistribution of wealth, don't ya know?

Little Ant | 11-15-2008 08:24 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by steel_ag (Post 1417217) Do you think people perceive you as being weak?.... Maybe it's time for a little ant to become a big ant
No, if anything people have the impression that I am a cold hearted bitch just because I hold them accountable and expect them to pull their own weight. I have no sympathy for slackers and that is no secret at my workplace. This woman just has a set of big brass ones, always at the front of the gimme line. This time was just above and beyond. Tn Andy- I could explain to her about how to raise her own but I don't think they allow chickens at the subsidized apartments she lives in.

AgAuGal | 11-15-2008 08:40 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Sadly this is a trend in behavior I have seen the last ten years. I disagree with her attitude completely. She did not even have the insight to at least offer you money nor probably considered a 'No' answer was acceptable. I think a lot of people that have accepted the entitlement attitude will be getting a lesson in humility very soon. Some of the behaviors I am seeing at work are alarming and to be honest a bit frightening. As the stresses build I'm expecting more meltdowns. It is getting down right scary. Here entitlement attitude will get her no where as our society deteriorates. Sorry to hear she treated you that way. I would not hesitate to explain to her what it does take to get an egg to the table. Maybe she would understand hours worked/egg? She obviously has never raised chickens. There is a lot of arrogance in America that needs purging.

eyeofliberty | 11-15-2008 08:58 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" That crap would never fly where I work. Not only is the business owner a libertarian, but everyone I work with is pretty self-reliant. I have a co-worker that actually does bring in eggs for people, but he charges a very reasonable $1/dozen, $1.50/18. He would laugh in the face of anyone that expected them for free, as would anyone else there. As they say, "Want in one hand, and crap in the other. See which one fills up quicker."

mtnman | 11-15-2008 09:18 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I would look at this as an opportunity...When she gave you the carton you could have either said "Thanks, I can never get enough of these cartons, do you have anymore I can have?" or you could have said "Oh goody a new customer, eggs are $2.50 a dozen, how many do you want!" Ya might want to re-read "The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition". http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Fere...of_Acquisition

Tallships | 11-15-2008 10:32 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I would save up about 12 of them and wait until they start turning green. A little off white paint and in the carton and away they go. Allow her to enjoy the true fruits of socialism.

CoinHunter53562 | 11-15-2008 10:37 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1417196) I think AFTER I'd gotten over the shock, I'd have taken the opportunity to educate the woman on common sense and decency......would have started by shoving the empty carton back at her and saying "I" do have eggs....you don't......would you like me to explain how "you" get them ? I know this is an isolated case of a brazen fool...but it's ALSO a sign of why I say the next depression isn't gonna be anything like the last one......there is this overwhelming sense of entitlement now that says "I DESERVE" whatever, and if you have it, you OWE it to me.......
I couldnt have said it better myself. So many people are not going to be able to fend for themselves and lack the basic abilities or smarts to do anything productive. The original guy showed amazing restraint. I would have ripped her a new one in front of everyone.

CoinHunter53562 | 11-15-2008 10:37 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamC (Post 1417204) 17 empty egg shells and 1 empty shotgun shell. Just as a hint.
LMAO....I love this idea!!

dlm1968 | 11-15-2008 10:41 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" You don't live far from me....I want some "welfare eggs" too, and I expect them delivered. :biggrin:

KingTheoden | 11-15-2008 10:46 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 1417190) Little bit of a rant here. I have four R.I. Reds that I got to provide eggs for MY familly. With just 28 eggs per week there's not too many leftovers, but I give any extras to a young widow with a teenager next door. There's just enough for our two families. Well, this week a co-worker came to my desk, shoved an empty 18 count egg carton at me, and said, "I've heard you have eggs." I was so shocked I almost fell off my chair. There were others around so I bit my tongue really hard and told her if I gave her 18 eggs my children wouldn't have any. So she replies, "Oh, well I have an smaller 12 count egg carton at home I'll bring instead." Words can not express how angry I was at the gall of this woman to demand I supply her with free eggs. It would be one thing to hint around and leave it to me to offer some eggs or not, but to come complete with egg carton and an 18 counter to boot. Damn, people are getting brazen today. I probably should have brought some in and presented her with a bill. :s15: Instead she got a look that told her just where she can put her egg carton.
That sounds about right for a typical product of modern culture. How many of us have dealt with people asking for 'a spot' when they wanted a dollar or five for some reason. It is always some marginal acquaintance who prattles on how 'we consume too much' - but apparently is justified in a trip to the snack machine. They promise immediate repayment the next day; after a week, if you ask for it back, they become rude and nasty. This is one of the many reasons our nation is falling apart. I'm glad you did not give her any of your eggs.

Chris_Is_Here | 11-15-2008 10:50 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Her attitude is one that is being actively encouraged and cultivated by Obama-Biden....YOU have it so I WANT it....why should YOU have what I WANT? If the other guy has what you WANT, take it from him....that's socialism, in a nutshell.. ..and that prick Biden had the gall to tell us to get "patriotic" and support his planned tax increase........there's something about this guy that makes me grit my teeth every time I hear him....you'all do me a favor, please.....if we have an armed uprising, leave Biden to me, you guys go after the rest of them....

Lovemonster | 11-15-2008 10:57 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" This is an interesting post, and here is why. First we are presented with a woman who gives away surplus eggs (Charitable). Then we are presented with a woman who demands some eggs. Then a Steel AG makes the observation that perhaps Little Ant is perceived as weak (which was my initial reaction). Little Ant responds as being a self-proclaimed cold bitch (which contradicts her charitable traits as referenced above). All of these complex views based on a simple egg giving habit. So I thought about this a bit more.....and a bit more.......and a bit more...... Then it occurred to me. Perhaps middle/upper class Americans simply have no idea to ASK for and receive charity (having never been in this situation)....so they resort to demanding! Think of how different this would have been had the co-worker walked up and said "Little Ant, I and my family have been having some financial trouble. I heard you have eggs...do you think you could spare any? I would be forever in your debt etc etc etc...." Being humble is something Americans are going to need to learn pretty fast.

GOLD DUCK | 11-15-2008 11:03 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" QWAK,Little Ant,I read this post and another you recently put up and both gave me a GRIN that was a mix of humor and HOROR because I had a flash of INSIGHT that desterbed me.:thinkey: Yes there is a great sence of intitalment and greed and total IGNORENCE out there on a grand scale, virtualy every ware and at every level, but what FLASHED threw my mind was the TOTAL LACK of DISAPLIN and SELF controll!! In general people have lost the ability to limit THEM SELVES and abdicated to out side forces --government,advertising,churches and any body that will SAY what they WANT to HEAR and tell them WHAT to DO and when and HOW to do IT!:thinkey::yes::confused_ma: Much like children in a "FREE CANDY/every thing STORE" they EAT every thing ,grab all they can and MORE than they NEED or is GOOD for them! Learning SELF DICIPLAN is almost a LOST ART any more and the techniques are all but forgotten except in such things as martial arts and warrier training.:thinkey::yes: We become STRONG threw DICIPLIN at all levels of our existince and FAILING to EXERCISE self diciplin maks us WEAK and vonerable also on ALL levels!:yes: In BODY and in MIND -- FAT and FLABBY don't just happen to our bodies!:wink::shine: When we push our selves to our limits and then a little further -- we get STRONGER! When we have NO LIMITS self imposed -- we don't even TRY! :yes::thinkey::s1: If a person does NOT DICIPLIN them selves THEN the world around them WILL --- be it NATURE or other persons IE. GOVERNMENT -- to GOVERN means to LIMIT -- IT don't mean to GIVE MORE!:111::cry1::yes: To be FREE one must also BE "SELF DICIPLINED" -- INDEPENDENT of out side GOVERNING/LIMITING factors or influences -- FREE to DECIDE for ones SELF what action to take or NOT take!:thinkey::yes: FREE don't mean "SOMTHING for NOTHING" -- there is a COST for EVERY THING!:thinkey: It got me PONDERING:wink: so NOW I am going to get in my pond and warm up and ponder some more.:shine: When people STOP looking for "FREE" they START seeing REALITY -- and usualy IT is SCAREY and UGLY so they stop LOOKING!:yes::shine: Little Ant ,I injoyed your post :s1::shine: the DUCK

Goldhedge | 11-15-2008 11:09 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" She didn't even say 'Please'??? I'd give her eggs....

Little Ant | 11-15-2008 11:14 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 1417342) I would save up about 12 of them and wait until they start turning green. A little off white paint and in the carton and away they go. Allow her to enjoy the true fruits of socialism.
LOL. Tallships, I like how you think. Lovemonster- I am not saying I am a cold hearted bitch. I said many at work have that perception (unfairly) only because I am very self reliant and expect others to pull their own weight. In other words I was trying to illustrate that there is no way that I was viewed as weak by this woman- trust me she would have done this with anyone. I may not be a warm and fuzzy person but I will gladly share what I have (and I do) with those who are truly in need and show a reasonable attempt to do the best they can with what they have. And yes, manners and "Please" would have gone a long way in my book. The mentality of something for nothing has been fostered by our society until now it is a given. With each stimulus package and each bailout the masses are becoming further desensitized to the stigma of a handout. Now everyone is thinking they are a fool if they don't get their share. This example is just a drop in the bucket. I agree too that this problem will only grow as times get tougher. On another forum several posters have caught strangers collecting veggies from their backyard gardens or fruit from their trees. When confronted the offenders have the mindset that they are perfectly within their rights to trespass and steal from others.

Old Herb Lady | 11-15-2008 11:43 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Little Ant , GASP !!!!!!!!! For Goodness Sake, I would have been unable from preventing my mouth to hold back. Fill 'er up a dozen of those plastic easter eggs and shock her back.

Gknowmx | 11-15-2008 12:27 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Little Ant, My take on this is completely different. First let me say that I like your posts here at GIM. You are a true person. You take responsibility for yourself and your actions. You plan. You prepare. You even share. You seem to do all of these on YOUR terms. :adore: :36_3_16: The problem I see here in your story I have faced a million times; we all probably have truth be told: is that reality (in this case--in the form of a coworker demanding of you) hit you fast and hard from out of nowhere. :shot: You were call upon to respond immediately. With all the physical preparation you do, your ability to conjure a quick and appropriate intellectual response fell short. You knew you needed one, you get frustrated as your brain can't respond to your gut. :bash: So your brain filled the gap with some polite response about the needs of your family, but you knew in your gut that was not the response that you either needed or wanted, but it was the best that you could do. :thumb.aspx: Some people are incredibly clever, as we can see from the responses in this thread, but how many of us are truly witty, that is, able to really say on demand, the right thing and the right time to stave of reality long enough to collect ourselves for a more substantive response. Some folks I know are very witty indeed. Part of it seems to be intelligence, part seems to be personality, part seems to be wisdom and experience, and part seems to be preparation. I am awful at either telling or remembering jokes, music lyrics, or movie lines. :banghead::banghead: Yet it never fails to amaze me how some people can instantly produce just the right joke, lyric, or movie line (and more now-- youtube clips, videos, and images) that immediately crystalizes the essence of the situation. Even good comedians need to prepare their material through practicing presentation. Same with musicians or artists. To me, people I admire are not just good at what they do, but good at what they do instantaneously. :36_1_32v: How many times do we all ruminant over situations like this thinking what we shoulda, coulda, woulda done.... :rant::rant: eventually we find an answer 'for the next time'. But darn it, most of the time, the next time never comes, instead, we get blindsided by a different situation....:bear_angry: Little Ant, social welfare may have been the issue at hand, but it is wittiness that I see as the source of my frustration and angst in situations like this. :confused_m: Perhaps you agree....Or not. :dontknow:

Saul Mine | 11-15-2008 01:22 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" "Go to hell" is an appropriate response, although I have been trying to collect a few politer ways to handle such situations. In my present state of development I think I would answer "I don't think so." I never would offer any reason for refusing, since my reasons are not subject to her approval.

steel_ag | 11-15-2008 01:29 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Some people like to think of themselves as pimpin'.... egg pimp lol maybe this bold lady has the same mindset? "Pimpin' ain't easy but it sure is fun" There are alot of people who have this sort of thought process in America today.... panhandlin' and pimpin'

Little Ant | 11-15-2008 01:29 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Good observations and insight from all, as usual. I believe the take home for me is that there will be more of this type of behavior coming as times get more difficult and to be ready for it. This incident was just plain irritating but should serve as a warning to me. I will think on ways to better secure my home and property, including my backyard chickens. When people get really desperate I can imagine them skipping the eggs and going straight for the chickens etc. And then there will be no eggs for my family or my neighbors. I'm sure we ain't seen nothing yet.

EE_ | 11-15-2008 01:41 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Bring her salt and tell her to... http://b2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/0...96630932_m.gif

Weho Dave | 11-15-2008 01:55 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" How in the world did she find out you had eggs?

Little Ant | 11-15-2008 02:03 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Weho Dave (Post 1417597) How in the world did she find out you had eggs?
Her daughter and mine are good friends from high school, so her daughter has been to my house. I don't go around announcing I have chickens but not so hard to keep top secret either.

GOLD DUCK | 11-15-2008 02:16 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" QWAK,Little Ant, Mom told me "Just be a SIMPLE HONIST MAN" -- in our world TO DAY that is a HARD thing to do because just about every one is runing some kind of GAME and they are almost never FARE! :wink: You Tube
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Only way to WIN in a riged game is -- DON'T PLAY! :thinkey::yes::shine: You Tube
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Lt Dan | 11-15-2008 03:10 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I read this egg thread because I also have chickens and was curious. I have 26 chickens and do have a lot of "surplus" eggs which my wife is all to eager to sell. We get $2.00 a dozen with no complaints as to the price. Occasionally we do give away a dozen here and there to either someone in real need or a neighbor as an extension of friendship. That's it, either pay or they don't get eggs, period. My wife must be related to you, Little Ant, as she is a cold ----- (don't tell her I said that). I'd tell her that, "At the present, I have customers that pay for all the eggs I have to sell." I know, when people spring surprises on an other, it is so shocking that we don't always have the best come back for them.

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Canadian-guerilla | 11-15-2008 05:10 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovemonster (Post 1417372) Being humble is something Americans are going to need to learn pretty fast.
the " I DESERVE " will learn humble faster when a firearm comes into sight Quote:
Originally Posted by specsaregood (Post 1417642) I'd be watching to make sure nothing got stolen from my desk or locker at work. And I'd make sure the security of my chickens was top notch. People that feel entitled are less likely to accept a NO answer without contemplating a way to steal what they are "entitled to." This coworker has shown her hand (she thinks she deserves what you have), that would place her and her children firmly in the "do not trust" list.
this may depend on any previous interactions you've had with this coworker talk with your daughter as to whether the coworker's daughter has the same " give me " attitude

Dude | 11-15-2008 05:28 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 1417190) Words can not express how angry I was at the gall of this woman to demand I supply her with free eggs.
I have never experienced this in 48 years on this earth. This made me look to see if YouGottaBeKiddingMe.com was available. Already taken.

meatman | 11-15-2008 05:31 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" This is why I have worked for myself since I was 16 now 44 I can't stand co-workers

mike77777 | 11-15-2008 05:42 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" when people ask me "got a cigarette", i reply "got a dollar?" oughta see the look of puzzlement and confusion on their poor faces. i have collected two dollars so far btw. gassing up at the arco, a guy says to me, got a dollar, i just need to get over the hill. offered to purchase his gold ring for the dollar, no sale. sure that will change as we move along in this current adventure.

melody | 11-15-2008 10:54 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" At my local farmer's market, the egg vendors get $5 a dozen. (Town of 6-7,000 in Oregon.) They run out of eggs almost every week, sometimes moments after opening. Which is pretty good since they start out with 25-50 dozen eggs every week depending on how the chickens are doing and how many are bought at their house. At the last market they had people beg to drive the 20 minutes to their house to keep their eggs comming. Simply set a high enough price for your co-worker. Even if you do choose to give her 'welfare eggs' (which should only work if she was truly in need.), then inform her of the price you ordinarly charge. Maybe put a price tag on the eggs and tell her that since she's a co-worker you will give her a dozen for free. But your 'normal' customers always give you $5 a dozen. Give her the lecture on the cost of feed, animal supplements, chicks, etc, even if you have to make some stuff up. (Did you know that Organic chicken feed sells for $20 a bag and that will only last me a week.) Then let her know that if you just can't afford to give her any more eggs unless she starts on as a paying customer. If she buys the line, then get a few more chickens since she will be paying for them. Or you can tell her that your chickens are sick and are not laying.:signs14: Or that rats/skunks are eating all your eggs.l You'll let her know of course if they ever start up again.

Yasumi | 11-15-2008 11:05 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Give her some goddamn eggs already. Did she grow up in a different culture? Did someone create an expectation that you were brimming with eggs and grateful to unload some on a rude stranger? Are drugs involved? Were the 'eggs' in your example a code word or folksy euphemism for some secret commodity or service? Something is missing... A gypsy upbringing? Metal in the water? Inappropriate reverence or superstition regarding fowl? What are you not telling us?

Ardent Listener | 11-15-2008 11:15 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Just tell her you will pay her with fresh eggs for her working cleaning out your chicken coop. Forget welfare for anyone who can work. The best social program is a job.

GreenSpirit | 11-15-2008 11:20 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I think you might bring in 18 eggs and slowly, one by one, mash them into her face. That'll teach her.

Cassandra | 11-15-2008 11:30 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Little Ant, with a nickname like that, are you really surprised to find that the grasshoppers are coming knocking now that winter is here? Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 1417554) Good observations and insight from all, as usual. I believe the take home for me is that there will be more of this type of behavior coming as times get more difficult and to be ready for it. This incident was just plain irritating but should serve as a warning to me. I will think on ways to better secure my home and property, including my backyard chickens. When people get really desperate I can imagine them skipping the eggs and going straight for the chickens etc. And then there will be no eggs for my family or my neighbors. I'm sure we ain't seen nothing yet.
Sadly, I think you are right in that we all will also need good defenses. I worry quite a lot about this because I have an orchard & chickens right in the middle of the suburbs (basically, I have 2 lots with just one house). Very difficult to keep anything secret, or secure. But I get a little better every week. The thing that pisses me off maybe even more than the idiotic co-workers are the closer acquaintances or even friends who pull this. I pretty much gave up trying to get anybody to prepare after being basically laughed at or rebuffed. But occasionally someone will say something like, "I'll just come here if anything happens". I don't let that pass without comment. I've said things like, "OK, I can put you to work", and "What do you think I have here that you couldn't get at your own place?" Possibly I may be just a bit of a bitch too. Oh, well.

Drumblebum | 11-15-2008 11:35 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I see a shiteload of overreaction to this incident. People are rude and say stupid shyte all the time. Do you guys get out much? I agree with the disgust at the sense of entitlement, I really do. I personally would NEVER EVER go up to someone, even someone I worked with and knew well, and act in the way this person was described to have acted. The nerve is amazing. Imagining myself in this situation I likely would have said, "Well, I don't just give them away since they cost me to produce, but I'll be glad to sell you some at a decent price if you want." And then I'd have left it at that. I certainly wouldn't have dwelled on it long enough to start considering the woman some kind of threat! Jeez! Sometimes I wonder... :no_ma:

Yasumi | 11-15-2008 11:47 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I definitely do not get out much.

Blorp | 11-16-2008 12:09 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 1417261) "Thanks, I can never get enough of these cartons, do you have anymore I can have?"
lol mtnman. As usual, I agree 100% That is good stuff.

Saul Mine | 11-16-2008 12:58 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1418271) I see a shiteload of overreaction to this incident. People are rude and say stupid shyte all the time. Do you guys get out much? I agree with the disgust at the sense of entitlement, I really do. I personally would NEVER EVER go up to someone, even someone I worked with and knew well, and act in the way this person was described to have acted. The nerve is amazing. Imagining myself in this situation I likely would have said, "Well, I don't just give them away since they cost me to produce, but I'll be glad to sell you some at a decent price if you want." And then I'd have left it at that. I certainly wouldn't have dwelled on it long enough to start considering the woman some kind of threat! Jeez! Sometimes I wonder... :no_ma:
That's a very good assessment. We usually have more trouble with our impression of a situation than with the situation itself.

eyeofliberty | 11-16-2008 09:10 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 1417818) when people ask me "got a cigarette", i reply "got a dollar?" oughta see the look of puzzlement and confusion on their poor faces. i have collected two dollars so far btw. gassing up at the arco, a guy says to me, got a dollar, i just need to get over the hill. offered to purchase his gold ring for the dollar, no sale. sure that will change as we move along in this current adventure.
Love it. I use a variety of lines for panhandlers: Want weed my yard? Want wash my car? Want to re-roof my house? No takers, yet. Not a handout, but a hand-up, right? :biggrin:

Armed.peasant | 11-21-2008 07:23 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1417196) I think AFTER I'd gotten over the shock, I'd have taken the opportunity to educate the woman on common sense and decency......would have started by shoving the empty carton back at her and saying "I" do have eggs....you don't......would you like me to explain how "you" get them ? I know this is an isolated case of a brazen fool...but it's ALSO a sign of why I say the next depression isn't gonna be anything like the last one......there is this overwhelming sense of entitlement now that says "I DESERVE" whatever, and if you have it, you OWE it to me.......
The overall sense of entitlement is out of control. I see it all the time and it will not get any better. When did this sense of entitlement start? Did welfare start it or all the guys wanting votes claiming they will take from the rich (people who work) and give to the poor (people who don't work).

Buddha | 11-21-2008 10:59 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" yeah she can have some eggs, ON HER FACE! :36_1_25::565: :rofl: I would have told her that Obama promised and egg in every pan and a cock in every ass, but I'm all outta eggs.

AMforPM | 11-21-2008 11:13 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 1417399) On another forum several posters have caught strangers collecting veggies from their backyard gardens or fruit from their trees. When confronted the offenders have the mindset that they are perfectly within their rights to trespass and steal from others.
I've had that problem with the frontyard peaches. When I was hostile, and said would they hand me the food I grew and they were stealing or would they rather I call the police they looked both sullen and shocked. Our friends loved our fresh eggs, but offered to pay, and were polite. I'll have the gate locked and an additional dog if times get tough. Now the dog is behind a privacy fence in the back and on 3 sides of the house where the hard times garden will go and the front, with the fruit trees has chain link and an unlocked gate. But it will be locked with dog access in tough times. Our great dog is getting old and we are going to get her a pup pal in the next year or so. A herd dog. Then when greatheart passes I'll bring in another pup so it is a 2 dog protection team. edit - one friend, with twice our income, but spent for granite counter tops and custom cherry cabinets, etc, when I suggested they prep, giggled and said she'd come to us. I told her bluntly that they had more income than we did and not to expect anything from us if she was too foolish to prepare. It created a strain for awhile, but she did start prepping. And the strain is gone now and that was trouble coming.

AceNZ | 11-22-2008 05:40 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" If you ever decide to stop giving eggs to your widowed neighbor, make sure you're prepared for a possible backlash. After a while, people have a tendency to turn charity into entitlement. "You can't stop now; we depend on those eggs," etc. I'm not saying it will for sure happen in your case, but I've seen that kind of thing a lot...

Twisted Avatar | 11-22-2008 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AgAuGal (Post 1417244) I think a lot of people that have accepted the entitlement attitude will be getting a lesson in humility very soon. Some of the behaviors I am seeing at work are alarming and to be honest a bit frightening. As the stresses build I'm expecting more meltdowns. It is getting down right scary. Her entitlement attitude will get her no where as our society deteriorates.
Oh it will get her and 100 million more like her somewhere. .....TO THE VERY HEAD OF THE EXTICTION LINE. You see............ Nature is about to correct herself and do so in a BIG WAY. T

silverblood | 11-23-2008 04:54 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I think it is incredibly rude that she didn't ask if you had excess eggs that you were willing to sell. I believe I'd have told her, yes I have eggs, but I don't sell them or give them away, and my family consumes all of them.

Silverstone | 11-23-2008 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ardent Listener (Post 1418251) Just tell her you will pay her with fresh eggs for her working cleaning out your chicken coop. Forget welfare for anyone who can work. The best social program is a job.
AL, you read my mind, beat me to the punch on this one. I would offer her eggs in exchange for labor, 1/2 hour or something. Bet she'll decide she doesn't want them so badly.

Squirrel Bait | 11-23-2008 08:48 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Maybe this is a good lesson for all of us. Times are gonna be getting tougher. Maybe you should just tell her you sold the chickens. Too much trouble. Better yet, butchered them and ate 'em. Have a picture around of you with a big ol' knife whacking it's head off. Might have a word with your daughter too. It's sad we live in a society that is like this, but it's gonna get a lot worse, especially when people start getting hungry. s

gangsta99 | 11-23-2008 09:29 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Does she drive a car to work? I am guessing no she probably is a public bus biatch. If she has a car I would egg that bitches car with 18 eggs.

bwelkk | 11-23-2008 10:08 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Oh, isn't it too bad for her that you lost all your chickens just last week in a tragic boating incident?

gangsta99 | 11-23-2008 10:27 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Seems like more and more people are having boating accidents. I would say it is safe to say boats are more deadly than firearms.

Cassandra | 11-23-2008 10:30 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Nobody should need to lie about something like this. Better just to say something like, "Goodness, I don't have enough eggs to feed the whole world! I barely get enough for just my family.", Possibly one might laugh and add, "What do you think I am, Foster Farms?" and turn it into a big joke (on her) if she's that much of an annoying slitch. But I'd probably just let that first part stand.

renascent | 11-24-2008 10:53 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I'm surprised how offended anyone would get over something like this. If it were me, I probably would have laughed hysterically, and if she didn't get the hint at the laugh, put the egg carton in my desk. Everytime she asked about the eggs, "Oops. I forgot to bring the egg carton home." Eventually, she stops asking.

flash91 | 11-24-2008 12:53 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I wonder if the crowd here just missed what was the opening of negotiations. The lady who said "you have eggs" clearly knows that you have extra eggs to give to a neighbor, and would like some. Preferably at a cost of $0 per egg. Initiating negotiations low is good haggling. The OP response should have been a high position - "I don't have any extra eggs" implying my eggs are in demand. Who knows, you might be able to sell your eggs higher than market value. Or the initial purchaser might just get lost, which would also be acceptable. More ferengi less klingon is my advice.

GOLD DUCK | 11-24-2008 01:10 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" QWAK,Perhaps as a child she had problems with READING and COMPREHENSION?:wink: Some people need VISUAL and AUDIO aids to understand.:yes: IF you have her E MAIL address you could send her THIS. You Tube
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pairunoyd | 11-24-2008 01:36 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by AceNZ (Post 1429586) If you ever decide to stop giving eggs to your widowed neighbor, make sure you're prepared for a possible backlash. After a while, people have a tendency to turn charity into entitlement. "You can't stop now; we depend on those eggs," etc. I'm not saying it will for sure happen in your case, but I've seen that kind of thing a lot...
Yea, she might poison you like she did her husband... :puke:

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pairunoyd | 11-24-2008 01:39 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1432634) I wonder if the crowd here just missed what was the opening of negotiations. The lady who said "you have eggs" clearly knows that you have extra eggs to give to a neighbor, and would like some. Preferably at a cost of $0 per egg. Initiating negotiations low is good haggling. The OP response should have been a high position - "I don't have any extra eggs" implying my eggs are in demand. Who knows, you might be able to sell your eggs higher than market value. Or the initial purchaser might just get lost, which would also be acceptable. More ferengi less klingon is my advice.
Do not do business w/ thugs.

flash91 | 11-24-2008 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pairunoyd (Post 1432745) Do not do business w/ thugs.
Hah. Hard negotiators are pretty common. Starting at zero dollars would actually be considered friendly, as its a bid that is sure to be rejected. Along the lines of "Oh how will I feed my 13 children and three wives if I accept your offer?" or "But it costs me (your bid plus X) just to make it" I wonder if the coworker was of an equatorial heritage? Of course it might just be as the OP perceived it - agressive begging.

Juristic Person | 11-24-2008 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 1417190) Well, this week a co-worker came to my desk, shoved an empty 18 count egg carton at me, and said, "I've heard you have eggs."
"I do have eggs. Thanks for the egg carton - I need more of these". .

renascent | 11-24-2008 03:34 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Juristic Person (Post 1432790) "I do have eggs. Thanks for the egg carton - I need more of these". .
+1. Perfect.

pairunoyd | 11-24-2008 05:34 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1432777) I wonder if the coworker was of an equatorial heritage?
I get crap like that almost exclusively from equatorial nomads. Fires my blood!:36_1_30:

bigdaddy40 | 11-27-2008 01:24 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" i knew being an anti social prick would come in handy someday.............

Juristic Person | 11-27-2008 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by renascent (Post 1432973) +1. Perfect.
I've found that smart-alecky answers are the perfect remedy for rude/brash questions. .

TomLandrysHat | 11-27-2008 02:50 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" I once gave a dozen of my chickens eggs to my cousin, who promptly threw them out because they didn't have 'use-by' dates stamped on them. I kid you not.

californiaprospector | 11-27-2008 03:49 AM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 1417190) Well, this week a co-worker came to my desk, shoved an empty 18 count egg carton at me, and said, "I've heard you have eggs."
Take your checkbook, remove any blank checks, then confront this woman, and state, "I've heard you have checks." You can do the same for cash...if she has any.

Saul Mine | 11-27-2008 01:08 PM
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More ferengi less klingon is my advice.
http://members.shaw.ca/the.toner/ima...ie/biglmao.gif We have a lot of Klingons here, but we don't often hear from Ferengis!

mnfarmer | 12-02-2008 10:38 PM
Re: Co-worker expects "welfare eggs" Unreal. If someone did that to me, I would just have to be honest and tell them that I do not have any eggs to spare. Well... it wouldn't really be honest in MY case, but it would in yours. In my case, I would love to have more people looking for eggs! I sure wouldn't give them away, but I need more buyers! We are currently bringing in about 100 eggs per day. Too many! Hubby sells them at work, plus we have a few more customers. We used to always run out of eggs, and one of the guys always said that he would take all he could get from us to give to (or sell to) his extended family. I proceeded to order 100 baby chics last spring. They are all now laying, and the guy that wanted so many only takes 3-5 dozen a week! Family is getting tired of scrambled eggs and french toast!

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