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SilverCity | 02-21-2008 10:06 AM
The Guns Network--Discussion Forums For anyone interested, here is another link to lots 'o firearm related information and discussion... http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/archive/index.php/

Prometheus | 02-21-2008 12:01 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums Whatever you do don't post anything bad about the economy, bush, the dollar, the FED or Iraq over there... Honestly you can find better information elsewhere... besides with the resident gun nuts here (myself included) there isn't much you can't have answered right here at home ;)

Darkside | 02-21-2008 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 977240) Whatever you do don't post anything bad about the economy, bush, the dollar, the FED or Iraq over there... Honestly you can find better information elsewhere... besides with the resident gun nuts here (myself included) there isn't much you can't have answered right here at home ;)
Yeah same goes for AR15.com.... post any dissent or criticism of all thing government and you'll get a mouthful from every Tom Dick and Charlie in the place. To them, everything is just peachy when it comes to government. Gubberment is just a big friendly fuzzy teddy bear always doing what's best for you.

erocktxmade | 02-21-2008 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Prometheus (Post 977240) Whatever you do don't post anything bad about the economy, bush, the dollar, the FED or Iraq over there... Honestly you can find better information elsewhere... besides with the resident gun nuts here (myself included) there isn't much you can't have answered right here at home ;)
OK sir, riddle me this. I am gonna get a Glock 30 and was wondering what kinda holster to get for it. I want an IWB holster and was looking at this one: http://www.kramerleather.com/product...GLOCK&model=30 Its pricey but I dont mind that, I just dont wanna shell out a bunch of money for crap. I was thinking of just putting it in my pocket but this holster looks great to me. Any thoughts?? Or is there another one I could use? I have a Glock 17 also at home and bought a FOBUS holster, a paddle one for the hip when I go out to the country and do my thing. Anyway, I have it on my hip and I pull it out that night and it left a big scrape down the side of my gun. I was LIVID. Ive had the thing for 8 years now and not a mark on it and I had to rub for a long time with oil to get it off. Needless to say the FOBUS is in the trash. I am trying to avoid the same problem with a holster for the Glock 30 model. Thanks for the help!

Prometheus | 02-21-2008 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by erocktxmade (Post 977271) OK sir, riddle me this. I am gonna get a Glock 30 and was wondering what kinda holster to get for it. I want an IWB holster and was looking at this one: http://www.kramerleather.com/product...GLOCK&model=30
I'm going to say you can get just as good a quality out of some of the slightly less expensive makers ranging in the $60-80 range. Desantis comes to mind right off the bat. I don't find IWB's comfortable, personally. Quote:
Its pricey but I dont mind that, I just dont wanna shell out a bunch of money for crap. I was thinking of just putting it in my pocket but this holster looks great to me. Any thoughts?? Or is there another one I could use? I have a Glock 17 also at home and bought a FOBUS holster, a paddle one for the hip when I go out to the country and do my thing. Anyway, I have it on my hip and I pull it out that night and it left a big scrape down the side of my gun. I was LIVID. Ive had the thing for 8 years now and not a mark on it and I had to rub for a long time with oil to get it off. Needless to say the FOBUS is in the trash. I am trying to avoid the same problem with a holster for the Glock 30 model. Thanks for the help!
Don't like the fobus eh? The 'scratching' is one of the reasons why I only carry stainless finishes. I carried a USP in a fobus for several years. I've since started carrying a springfield XD in a blackhawk serpa holster. I open carry occasionally and it's nice having the retention feature. It's also alot faster than a thumb break. A thought on carrying marks.... I was once like you, but my carry guns are meant for just that. They aren't safe queens. If they get a bit beat up or handling marks on them, it's cool now. One option you could look at if you want very low profile and the body hugging w/o doing IWB are the bianchi belt slides. I would use one of these with my USP when i open carried or wanted better retention. about 25 bucks IIRC: http://images.outdoorinteractive.net/mgen/287448_d.jpg I've used it on a couple of different frames that are similar and the one for my USP fits my XD9 very well. By the way the proper was to spell it is gLock :tongue_ma:

SilverCity | 02-21-2008 01:09 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums 2 Attachment(s) Have a look at F.I.S.T. holsters... http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/Default.htm

SilverSmaug | 02-21-2008 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by erocktxmade (Post 977271) OK sir, riddle me this. I am gonna get a Glock 30 and was wondering what kinda holster to get for it. I want an IWB holster and was looking at this one: http://www.kramerleather.com/product...GLOCK&model=30 Its pricey but I dont mind that, I just dont wanna shell out a bunch of money for crap. I was thinking of just putting it in my pocket but this holster looks great to me. Any thoughts?? Or is there another one I could use? I have a Glock 17 also at home and bought a FOBUS holster, a paddle one for the hip when I go out to the country and do my thing. Anyway, I have it on my hip and I pull it out that night and it left a big scrape down the side of my gun. I was LIVID. Ive had the thing for 8 years now and not a mark on it and I had to rub for a long time with oil to get it off. Needless to say the FOBUS is in the trash. I am trying to avoid the same problem with a holster for the Glock 30 model. Thanks for the help!
You may want to wait on that G30 until the G30SF hits retail if your intention is for a concealed carry pistol. Can't really make any recommendations for holsters as I am awaiting an IWB and an OWB for my G36 from Milt Sparks (26 week turnaround). I have never been a fan of the kydex holster and feel that a good firearm should be wrapped in quality leather.

SilverCity | 02-21-2008 01:32 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums The G30SF should fit the same holster as the G30...only difference is the back of the grip. If the truth be known, I don't much care for leather holsters. Besides the cost, leather can rub the finish off rather quickly, if carrying for CCW it can "squeak" when you move or bend at the waist, and leather is not exactly sweat or weather friendly...I don't recommend storing a pistol in any leather holster, because chemical salts used in tanning leathers can attract moisture. I prefer F.I.S.T.'s Ultra Thin Kydex for quiet IWB carry or even OWB...and they will make you one in any configuration you want, IWB, OWB, thumbsnap or no, eight different degrees of cant, Kydex lined leather (if you must), etc. They make it when you order it and mine took about 2 weeks...tho it looks like they are currently running longer.

Mumwaldee | 02-21-2008 04:23 PM
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JJ_ | 02-21-2008 04:37 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums Quote:
Originally Posted by erocktxmade (Post 977271) OK sir, riddle me this. I am gonna get a Glock 30 and was wondering what kinda holster to get for it. I want an IWB holster and was looking at this one: http://www.kramerleather.com/product...GLOCK&model=30 Its pricey but I dont mind that, I just dont wanna shell out a bunch of money for crap. I was thinking of just putting it in my pocket but this holster looks great to me. Any thoughts?? Or is there another one I could use? I have a Glock 17 also at home and bought a FOBUS holster, a paddle one for the hip when I go out to the country and do my thing. Anyway, I have it on my hip and I pull it out that night and it left a big scrape down the side of my gun. I was LIVID. Ive had the thing for 8 years now and not a mark on it and I had to rub for a long time with oil to get it off. Needless to say the FOBUS is in the trash. I am trying to avoid the same problem with a holster for the Glock 30 model. Thanks for the help!
I carry G30....:smokin: I like it...:D http://www.desantisholster.com/028.html WOW did this thread get JACKED or What?!:s9: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/812...tercozynh2.gif http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3...ck30rigsp4.jpg

Mumwaldee | 02-21-2008 04:51 PM
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Abouthadit | 02-21-2008 10:56 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 977267) Yeah same goes for AR15.com.... post any dissent or criticism of all thing government and you'll get a mouthful from every Tom Dick and Charlie in the place. To them, everything is just peachy when it comes to government. Gubberment is just a big friendly fuzzy teddy bear always doing what's best for you.
same with gunboards. what a bunch of ignorant self proclaimed patriots. I put up a couple of posts re the wisdom of Ron Paul and they all showed their asses. I'm done talking to idiots. From now on it's gun stuff ONLY. sheesh. :banghead:

SilverCity | 02-22-2008 12:22 AM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums I brought up PM's in a SURVIVAL thread on a popular GUN forum a while back and got a ration o' crap....:rant: With a few exceptions, they thought gold and silver were a waste of time and proceeded to beat me like a rented mule... All they wanted to discuss wuz guns. :thumpdown

JJ_ | 02-22-2008 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 977773) We're just trying to prove we got all the pushy knowitall gun nuts anyone could need right here at home! :bear_w00t: *nice rig btw.
:haha::haha::haha::clap2:MAN U SAID A MOUTHFULL. oh and THX - I like my stuff

Piotr01 | 02-22-2008 10:25 AM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums Anyone know any good forums?

SilverCity | 02-22-2008 10:36 AM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums Well, gun nuts do tend to have opinions and you will find them everywhere. I usually don't mind strong opinions as long as they based on facts and reason, and don't devolve into ad hominem attacks--fer crying out loud people! Try to overlook obvious Bravo Sierra...and glean any useful information. http://www.thehighroad.org/index.php

Awoke | 02-22-2008 01:00 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums OK, so as a gun noob, if I were to buy a shotgun, and I wanted to shoot both slugs and buckshot... A) Buy a smooth barrel and use rifled slugs or B) Buy a rifled barrel because buckshot wont hurt the rifle of the barrel? Serious question, as I am set to make a purchase and I have hear conflicting opinions. Anyone?

TechGuy | 02-22-2008 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wakeness (Post 978871) OK, so as a gun noob, if I were to buy a shotgun, and I wanted to shoot both slugs and buckshot... A) Buy a smooth barrel and use rifled slugs or B) Buy a rifled barrel because buckshot wont hurt the rifle of the barrel? Serious question, as I am set to make a purchase and I have hear conflicting opinions. Anyone?
Never seen a rifled barrel shotgun.

SilverCity | 02-22-2008 01:44 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums Option A. Get a 12 gauge smooth bore (ie: Remington 870) with swaged choke or screw-in chokes. Generally, if you want to shoot slugs it should have Cylinder or Improved Cylinder choke to shoot well. Shooting slugs through a Modified or tighter choke may affect group size, point of impact, increase pressures, and hence felt recoil. Rifled shotgun barrels (ie: Hastings) are designed to shoot saboted or Foster type slugs and will usually blow the pattern if you try to shoot buckshot or birdshot. You can always buy the 870 for shot loads and add a Hastings or similar rifled barrel to more accurately shoot slugs--although they will cost as much as the shotgun itself.

TechGuy | 02-22-2008 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus (Post 979014) I have a separate attachable/detachable rifled barrel for my Mossberg 12g pump action. It's for slugs (obviously) and it came with the gun.
Very nice... Is this one of those things related to what part of the country you live in? I used to deer hunt very regularly, and here in texas I have not seen anyone hunting with slugs. Normal artillery now days around here is a 270 or 300 win mag.

Hivemindgammahydra7 | 02-22-2008 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 978279) same with gunboards. what a bunch of ignorant self proclaimed patriots. I put up a couple of posts re the wisdom of Ron Paul and they all showed their asses. I'm done talking to idiots.
More recently I've had the same experience, pretty much. Several years ago it was a really great place, and I learned tons of useful information within a very short time frame. The knowledge gained has served me very well. Over the past year or so, things seem to have declined precipitously. The old hands that taught me so much don't post anymore, and if a new guy asks a question, experienced collectors pretty much ignore them, preferring instead to post extensive pictures of their vast collection of high-dollar milsurps for all to see. I often wonder why anyone would do that, and I would be afraid to do the same out of concern for getting robbed. A female co-worker once told me that men who publicly show off a lot are often compensating for other, more personal shortcomings, and the many of the postings on that site bring her words to mind. I've also heard and read sundry accounts about the ownership doing underhanded things to other shooters. Not sure to what extent that's true, but it's enough to keep me away from there. It's a real shame, because that was a great site once. I guess nothing lasts forever.

Mumwaldee | 02-22-2008 11:08 PM
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Goldfinger | 02-23-2008 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 977714) I have a DeSantis thumb break scabbard OWB for my Glock 21SF. Here's a link you can check out the different styles they have. Not too many IWB choices though. http://www.desantisholster.com/leath...-holsters.html I bought mine on ebay from a user named: holsterwear. http://stores.ebay.com/Magnum-Arms-Ltd *think this is his home website: http://www.magnumarms.com/ He has some IWB type holsters listed for sale. Saved me 20-25 bucks from retail msrp and shipped overnight. GL
I like the Pro Stealth http://www.desantisholster.com/n87.html I have one for my 19 and 26. Very comfortable and I don't even have to wear a belt!

Gold Rules | 02-23-2008 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 979647) THR used to be ok, but they won't allow any bashing of any products some of their "mods" happen to sell online or in their shops. Right now they are riding some guy because he mentioned magpul hasn't delivered on their promises of getting several of their products to the public over the past year and a half. One of the magpul guys posts over there I guess and they all like to ride his nutsack. So members start throwing personal attacks, defending a guy/company they don't even know...next thing you know you'll go down the memory hole. They won't allow any bashing of JBTs because they sell them all that tacticool junk. That means no speaking out against out of control police officers.
Yep have to agree...I just visit their reloading board ....the rest is a waste of my time trying to sort through all the big heads & ego's with axes to grind....:confused_ma:

gbgunner | 02-23-2008 06:59 PM
Re: The Guns Network--Discussion Forums I just got a Milt Sparks VM-2 in the mail yesterday. Had to wait 5 months, but it's an extremely comfortable IWB holster and belt.

SilverSmaug | 02-24-2008 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gbgunner (Post 980408) I just got a Milt Sparks VM-2 in the mail yesterday. Had to wait 5 months, but it's an extremely comfortable IWB holster and belt.
When did you order yours? I placed my order around the end of Dec., so I think I should receive mine by May maybe.

jrog100 | 02-24-2008 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 977267) Yeah same goes for AR15.com.... post any dissent or criticism of all thing government and you'll get a mouthful from every Tom Dick and Charlie in the place. To them, everything is just peachy when it comes to government. Gubberment is just a big friendly fuzzy teddy bear always doing what's best for you.
The same is true with G*ocktalk.com Avoid at all costs.

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