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Big Country | 03-19-2009 07:54 PM
underground bunker Anyone seen this site? Or already have one of these installed? http://www.disastershelters.net/index.php Its basically a piece of large ribbed drainage pipe buried in the ground, false floor installed, and has bunks, tables, sinks, and all sorts of other things pre-installed. They claim you can survive a nuclear blast if you're in the shelter (though not one that hits you directly...) I thought it would be interesting to put under a house. Install this bunker, then build a house on top or to the side of it, having an opening into the floor or basement of the house...and the other opening out the other end somewhere away from the house. That way it would be quicker to get into the bunker if some stuff starts to go down quickly. Seems like it could be a pretty good project to build one yourself (no doubt cheaper then theirs...) if you had patience and time Big Country

Hugo Chavez | 03-19-2009 09:03 PM
Re: underground bunker Quote:
America�s Specialists in �All Hazard Sheltering' *Please note, there will be a significant plrice increase on July 15th, 2008 because of the increase in the price of steel.
Yeah. DEflation. Right...

Squirrel Bait | 03-20-2009 10:09 AM
Re: underground bunker The Granddaddy Of All Underground Storage Areas http://www.nogw.com/download/2005_cellar3.pdf

Big Country | 03-20-2009 10:45 AM
Re: underground bunker Thanks for the PDF That was a good read too. I think it would be a fun project to work on when I get some property to put it!

SLV>GLD | 03-20-2009 11:03 AM
Re: underground bunker http://www.mycosupply.com/growrooms/ Not exactly bunker material but gets the mind to thinking.

Canadian-guerilla | 03-20-2009 11:31 AM
Re: underground bunker Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1636467) http://www.mycosupply.com/growrooms/ Not exactly bunker material but gets the mind to thinking.
i think we had a thread awhile back about shipping containers as shelters if i were going to use a shipping container, i wouldn't exactly bury it in the ground but maybe backhoe a sizable dent into a hill and place the container in then backfill the removed dirt around the container so that in the end, the entrance could maybe resemble an old mine entrance maybe place some shrubs/small trees in front to hide opening http://www.endterfamily.com/images/IMG_2838_sm.jpg

nub | 03-20-2009 11:42 AM
Re: underground bunker Figure $112.00 a foot for 10' dia. corrugated galvanized pipe weight is 100 lbs per linear foot and will last 75 years direct burial ......I have a source here in California if anyone needs it. I wouldn't go over 40' trucking gets costly.

Jimfrancisco | 03-20-2009 02:06 PM
Re: underground bunker Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugo Chavez (Post 1635525) Yeah. DEflation. Right...
Errrr.... check out the price of steel in July 2008.

Big Country | 03-20-2009 08:20 PM
Re: underground bunker Wouldn't the rounded top from the corrugated pipe withstand more pressure then a square shipping container for the purpose of burying it? I'm not a structural engineer or anything, but it would seem to be that would be the case... Great links everyone! Thanks! Big Country

Glass | 03-20-2009 09:05 PM
Re: underground bunker I thought these were pretty good. They are concrete canvas buildings. They ship on a pallet and you construct by filling with water. You can use earth berming with these which is the piling of earth up the sides. I do not know if they can be completely covered over but you could certainly build them into the top of a hill. http://www.concretecanvas.co.uk/index.html I thought this was interesting. It is an icelandic home using berming. Its quite camoflaged. I have a link here to American bomb shelters which has lots of do it yourself equip like ventilation gear and the like. http://www.americanbombshelter.com/ Another interesting one, and there are a few variations out there is earthships, using old tires and compacted earth. A fair bit of work in it but it combines some old techniques. There was another thread I saw last week about using earth and straw etc as a wall finish. Can't seem to find it but the techniques are the same with these as well.... except for the tires, the other one was all compressed earth. http://www.earthships.com/ There are some interesting earthship youtubes if you want to see how people build them.

End of Hope | 03-20-2009 10:38 PM
Re: underground bunker If you're close enough to a known target that you need a bomb shelter, MOVE. I wouldn't use an underground home for any reason - your enemies can simply flood it or even pour fuel down your intakes and light you up. I'll pass on a private crematorium.

Squirrel Bait | 03-25-2009 09:34 AM
Re: underground bunker Quote:
Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1637688) If you're close enough to a known target that you need a bomb shelter, MOVE. I wouldn't use an underground home for any reason - your enemies can simply flood it or even pour fuel down your intakes and light you up. I'll pass on a private crematorium.
I always ponder statements that are absolutes. I bet it's easy to torch a house above ground too. An underground shelter can be very useful. Rootcellar, stormcellar, might come in handy if there is radiation around. I will agree with you that I don't think I would want to hole up in one, unless of course they have more than one exit. But even then I'd rather not. If under attack you've got to be able to move s

Big Country | 03-25-2009 12:33 PM
Re: underground bunker I agree it isn't where I want to hole up and try to defend. Its for surviving the initial whatever (natural disaster, nuke, etc...) that causes me to have to defend my property. The link I posted in my first post has two exits, one on either end of the piping. I said it would be neat to have one exit come into the house to use as a root cellar/storage and for easy access without having to go outside in the case of a tornado etc...And then have the second access on the other end out away from the house in case of a collapse of some other sort of blockage in the house Just something to think about...

Jimfrancisco | 03-27-2009 02:37 PM
Re: underground bunker A shipping container will collapse if simply buried - it is designed to takes tonnes of weight on the corners, not on the walls or roof. You could certainly modify one with some steel to distribute the weight to the designed weight-bearing points, though.

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