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silverJeep | 04-18-2007 08:51 AM
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Halophyte | 04-18-2007 08:54 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Yup, they work but you need to either chill the little bottle first or leave it on the big bottle for a while to get a decent fill. Just scored a 250 gallon LP tank with a liquid drain valve ... that was unusual. Now I can fill the 20lb bottles too. f

Tn...Andy | 04-18-2007 09:13 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit What's a liquid drain valve ? One on the bottom ?

Halophyte | 04-18-2007 09:17 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Nope, its on the top, you'll see what appears to be two fill valves. If your tank has only one the other port is blocked off (pipe plugged).

hoarder | 04-18-2007 09:21 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Quote:
Originally Posted by Halophyte (Post 576565) Nope, its on the top, you'll see what appears to be two fill valves. If your tank has only one the other port is blocked off (pipe plugged).
I guess that means it has a down tube. I've always wondered about filling the one pound cans with a larger tank. It seems you would have to hold the larger tank upside down to get a complete fill.

TLM | 04-18-2007 09:26 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit I have one, you can also buy them at Northern tools if you have one near you. The instructions do say to chill the little bottle, it creates a lower pressure and allows for a more complete fill. I've saved about a dozen little bottles over the years. It's much easier to carry a few bottles if you are going camping for a couple of days than to carry a big 20# bottle with the adapter hose. I also have a Big Buddy heater, and if I ever need to use it in my house, I'd feel safer using the little bottles inside and keeping the big tanks out in the garage. Peace TLM

Tn...Andy | 04-18-2007 09:27 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit I've got some friends down the road that run a sawmill/pallet operation....they have several propane forktrucks, and a tank they refill the FT tanks with.....I keep meaning to go down and investigate their set up and see what the big tank looks like. I know when I take 20 or 100lb bottles to town to fill, that place has a big tank and runs a pump to fill mine....but I'm thinking the sawmill doesn't have a pump because I don't think they have electricity out there where the tank is located. I'll try to get by there one day and look.

Curtman | 04-18-2007 09:29 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Great, now we're going to have a shortage of little exploding targets. :s15:

Halophyte | 04-18-2007 09:34 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit I haven't moved the tank to my property yet, when I pick it up I'll take a couple picture for ya'. The manifold has what looks like two seperate fill valves with the yellow cover caps on them. The normal fill valve has a float/check valve - propane goes in but it won't come out. The other valve was used in the older tanks to drain the tank before transporting (it was a DOT requirement). h

Tn...Andy | 04-18-2007 09:40 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Reason I asked about the bottom drain was I have a OLD ( data plate say Made in 1953 ) propane tank in my basement I use for water storage from my heating system. It had a 2" NPT top fitting and the same on the bottom near one end of the tank....sort of comes off at a 45 degree angle.....which made it perfect for me to plumb hot water in the top and take cooler water off the bottom to return to my fireplace loop.

silverJeep | 04-18-2007 10:40 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Quote:
Originally Posted by TLM (Post 576583) The instructions do say to chill the little bottle, it creates a lower pressure and allows for a more complete fill. TLM
When you say "chill", do you mean; put in the fridge for an hour, or put in the deep freeze overnight? SJ

mayhem | 04-18-2007 10:47 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Quote:
Originally Posted by TLM (Post 576583) I have one, you can also buy them at Northern tools if you have one near you. The instructions do say to chill the little bottle, it creates a lower pressure and allows for a more complete fill. I've saved about a dozen little bottles over the years. It's much easier to carry a few bottles if you are going camping for a couple of days than to carry a big 20# bottle with the adapter hose. I also have a Big Buddy heater, and if I ever need to use it in my house, I'd feel safer using the little bottles inside and keeping the big tanks out in the garage. Peace TLM
Linky to the item at Northern tools... http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...70_11829_11829 m

JCarvingblock | 04-18-2007 11:07 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Anybody good with a brazing torch and who has a bunch of misc brass plumbing plus propane tank fittings can make a filler rig to fill from 20 pounders to one pounders. Set up your riggings so the 20 pounder is upside down and the one pounder is lower in elevation and standing right side up. Check as the filling is proceeding that the one pounder is not 100% full. You need some expansion area above the liquid because propane is one of those liquids that expands and contracts with temperature changes. If you go off and leave it for more than about 20 minutes, the small bottle will be 100% full and you need to either burn some off or store it outside in a safe area and not in sunlight. Or perhaps store it in a freezer until you are ready to use it. I have a liquid line on my big tank too... A bit of uncommon sense applies. Propane sees the tank with the colder temperature as having less head pressure. If you had the big tank setting in full sun and you plumbed the wet line to another tank setting in full shade, all of the propane in the warmer tank would migrate to the tank in shade - even if the cooler tank sat at a higher elevation. [add that gas pressure varies, but at cool temperatures is still about 160 pounds per square inch - use very good quality lines] Beware of accidental breakage of a joint or line. The boiling liquid drops are minus 45 degrees ( pretty close at degrees F or C to same) and will give you instant frostbite which is pretty much like third degree burns. Not to mention the explosive potential. A pound of propane in a house released suddenly will blow the house apart at the first spark... Carver

TLM | 04-18-2007 11:15 AM
Re: Propane Refill Kit Quote:
Originally Posted by silverJeep (Post 576674) When you say "chill", do you mean; put in the fridge for an hour, or put in the deep freeze overnight? SJ
Gallon bucket of water with ice, allow it to sit in there for a couple of minutes and you're good to go.

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