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Dave | 03-26-2009 11:57 AM
1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... I have a friend looking at a Ford tractor, here are the specs and what is included. It has 4WD with a 25HP 3 cylinder Diesel, looks to be in good condition, front loader, a 60'' finishing mower deck, 60'' box blade, and PTO auger attachment. They are asking $5000. Personally, I think this price might be a little high, though the included attachments naturally add some value. Any wise thoughts here from tractor owners? Unfortunately, my tractor experience is limited to rentals and a small 18HP lawn tractor :) Dave

TechGuy | 03-26-2009 12:43 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Can you get the model?

Dave | 03-26-2009 12:47 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1647000) Can you get the model?
1992 Ford 1520 (is the 1520 not the model?) with a Ford 7108 loader. Dave

CANUCKFARMER | 03-26-2009 01:06 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... The price is high. Look into atv's,they have all the attachments you need for working,are bullet proof,major recreation value,are reasonably priced,fuel efficent,go absolutly anywhere capability.

Tn...Andy | 03-26-2009 01:46 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... I would disagree about ATVs....though they certainly can do some work, they are simply too light in weight to do much. I have a Yamaha Grizzly 600 4wd, which is fairly heavy machine as ATVs go, and it simply won't do much in the way of work. I put a standard trailer hitch on, thinking I'd haul a small wagon of firewood.....nope..not enough weight to haul much. About the most it will do is move an empty trailer, or the wood splitter.....forget ATVs for any real work....not to mention no front loader. They are fun to zip to the top of the mountain, or go feed the cows ( I added a homemade "basket" to the front of mine....with a gun rack,naturally..ahahhaa) but I wouldn't buy one for work. Actually, if I hadn't gotten a steal on this one, I wouldn't have bought it either. I have a 1920, 33hp with a 7308 loader...about the same amount of hours on it. I bought mine new in 1998 and paid about 22k for it. The model you're looking at probably ran in the 15-16k range new, so I don't think 5k is to bad a price for it now, if in good condition. Small, 4wd tractors used will actually bring more proportionally to HP than big ones. I know a guy that goes down to west TN and buys 100hp tractors for 3-4k, brings them back to run an irrigation pump out of the river for his strawberry/tomato fields, takes the wheels off and just lets them sit there and run the PTO until they blow up...then goes and gets another one ! My bigger concern than the price would be the size. I started with a 22hp Yanmar, and when I switched to the 33hp New Holland, it was night and day difference on the amount of work it would do.....and I wish I would have gone for a 45-50hp, which I think would be the ideal size for me. But if you have nothing, that 25hp tractor is going to seem like a dream come true. If it's a hydrostatic model, change trans/hydro oil/filters as soon as you get it unless they have a good service record to go with it. Clean fluid is the life of a hydro unit. Also, under the hood is the power steering filter.....large, black deal with a rubber fill plug in the top...."appears" to be the resevoir for the power steering fluid ( same fluid as trans by the way ), but that is ACTUALLY a spin off filter as well as the resevoir. Change it too, as recommended is 600hrs and nobody EVER does it, and that one probably has been done. If you buy it, get a set of pallet forks for the front FIRST THING.....you won't believe how much stuff you can move and do with them. And if it doesn't have a "quick attach" system for the front end loader, ATI in New Holland, PA makes one them for any tractor.....you can change from bucket to forks in 30 seconds.....also uses any attachment set up for a Bobcat ( same system ).

CANUCKFARMER | 03-26-2009 03:30 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... There might be something wrong with your atv Andy. It should be able to pull a thousand pounds no problem. You Tube
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They make front end loaders for them and everything else. http://www.quadivator.com/products.html I own a quadivator and my 500 rubicon and it pulls it fine. But yes a tractor will do more work,and a pto is a great,great thing.

Dave | 03-26-2009 03:59 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Andy, Thanks for the thoughts. I recall several threads where you placed the HP threshold (as in nice to have) on a tractor around 35HP to 50HP. Naturally, 25HP doesn't come that close but the 4WD seemed like it may make up for that especially when operating in low gears. Great advice on the fork attachments, since I will be embarking on a multitude of construction projects, I could imagine moving things around on pallets would be a huge help. Notice I have begun referring to my application, whereas this thread has been started for a friend. I might go in on this with my friend since he is next door and we could quite easily share the tractor for our relative needs. On the end of the day, this might not be the right deal or the right timing as my cash reserve is low but I will be looking at for something like this if this deal is not still around when we are ready to buy. Thank you all for your input. Dave

mick silver | 03-26-2009 04:35 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... i would buy it a good deal , here for that price you would get only the tractor

Dave | 03-26-2009 04:47 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1647386) i would buy it a good deal , here for that price you would get only the tractor
Yep, I was thinking the attachments made it a pretty good deal too. I would imagine buying those things separately would add a couple thousand to the price. Dave

Tn...Andy | 03-26-2009 05:23 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Finish mower will run 12-1500, box scraper maybe 250, post hole auger around 4-500ish...so yeah, there is 2k worth of attachments with it if you bought them. You could buy the tractor, use it a couple years, and then sell it for basically what you paid.....it has depreciated about as low at it's going as long as you keep in it in running condition....then buy a bigger one if you find this doesn't meet your needs. My 33hp does everything I want except I would like more capacity on a front loader, and that would take a bigger tractor.....but then, I would probably want more than the next one too.....so you probably just can't buy a big enough one....ahahahaaa....

hoarder | 03-26-2009 05:24 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... My 4 wheeler will pull Montana logs downhill, too. Even on level ground but it tries to do a wheelstand. ATV's have very soft tires with 5 PSI pressure so they will ride smooth on rough terrain. That isn't what you need for hard work. Listen to Tn..Andy. My 8N antique Ford has about 22 HP but will clear a thicket of small hardwoods 1 1/2" in diameter and 20 feet tall. Do not try this with an ATV. Old tractors like mine are still serviceable and can be found for around $2500. Parts are easy to find. The newer tractors can do more with 4WD, live hydraulics, power steering and more HP. But for a dedicated bushog I'd still want the almost indestructable 8N. Don't put a loader on one though, you need power steering for that.

Tn...Andy | 03-26-2009 05:40 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by CANUCKFARMER (Post 1647276) There might be something wrong with your atv Andy. It should be able to pull a thousand pounds no problem.
Oh, it will probably pull that no doubt....the PROBLEM is when you hit a bit of a grade. For example, the guy on the red ATV pulling that large log is going DOWNhill.....try pulling it UPhill, and you'll find the ATV just digs holes in the ground because it flat doesn't weigh enough. And worse, if you're going downhill with 1000lbs on a trailer instead of skidding a log on the ground (that acts more like a boat anchor), and you try to stop, you find the load pushing the ATV merrily along....like over the side of the hill. Quite dangerous.....ask me HOW I know....ahahahaaaa... Good rule of thumb is it takes 2X weight machine to pull a 1X load, safely or on a grade. My 1920 weighs about 4,000lbs and the heaviest thing I pull is a flat wagon of firewood that holds about 2,500lbs ( wood and wagon ). It will pull it, but coming up my drive way ( not TOO steep a grade ) I have to engage the differential lock on the rear wheels or they will dig in the gravel and we come to a stop. And if you want a log skidder, here it is: :biggrin:

Armed.peasant | 03-26-2009 07:26 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... That is a good price for that tractor, I looked at some of those a fews years back before I bought a new tractror. Tractorhouse.com is a great place to compare prices, here is a few 1520 models they have http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings...F1893237CEFA92 As far as the ATV thing, I have a 500 and it pulls great, but on a grade (going up that is) it will only spin all 4 tires with a loaded trailer. Not to mention the brake pads are very small and stoping could become a major issue with much weight attached.

Dave | 03-26-2009 08:08 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Andy, I knew you would love another tractor thread :biggrin: Armed.peasant, Thank you for the link. I am going to try and make this deal work with my friend, assuming it passes the tire test, runs, and doesn't have any hydraulic leaks or issues it should be a good buy. By the way, love the Shepherd on the Avatar. Mine looks a lot like that. Dave

Armed.peasant | 03-26-2009 08:14 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Thanks Dave, thats Ava she is almost 2 years old now. We have her sister from the same liter and she is almost all black. Good luck with the tractor, I did without one for a long time. Now that I have one with a loader it has made my life easy compared to the pre tractor days.

nub | 03-26-2009 08:21 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 1647665) That is a good price for that tractor, I looked at some of those a fews years back before I bought a new tractror. Tractorhouse.com is a great place to compare prices, here is a few 1520 models they have http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings...F1893237CEFA92 As far as the ATV thing, I have a 500 and it pulls great, but on a grade (going up that is) it will only spin all 4 tires with a loaded trailer. Not to mention the brake pads are very small and stoping could become a major issue with much weight attached.
:ok: agreed on both counts, I have tractors & atvs tractors are for work....why thrash an ATV doing heavy work when you can get a tractor in the same price range asa Dave's buddy as found. Don't get me wrong atv's perform many useful chores, doubt if we would not want to go without them now that we,ve had them awhile.

Weho Dave | 03-26-2009 09:20 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... That is a fair price on that tractor because of the attachments. Makes sure there is not too much rust on it and the hydraulic lines are in good condition and the PTO works. Also tires can be very expensive. Sometimes the hubs can rust through if they have been filled with calcium for added weight. I just got a New Holland 45hp with loader, forks, 72" mower, blade, and backhoe, 4wd, hydrostatic drive and supersteer. I really wanted the backhoe and found out that if a tractor is too small, it would not handle a decent sized backhoe. I started looking at the 35hp and was afraid it might be too small.

CANUCKFARMER | 03-26-2009 09:56 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Maybe its the fact i spend 1200 hrs a year on tractors that range from 140 to 250 horse that makes me love climbing onto a atv so much.Driving 5 miles an hour for sixteen hours a day,makes for a long day. That being said,in an acreage type set up i would still take the atv over that tractor.

Dave | 03-26-2009 10:38 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by CANUCKFARMER (Post 1647906) Maybe its the fact i spend 1200 hrs a year on tractors that range from 140 to 250 horse that makes me love climbing onto a atv so much.Driving 5 miles an hour for sixteen hours a day,makes for a long day. That being said,in an acreage type set up i would still take the atv over that tractor.
Indeed. I guess it becomes a thing of perspective and preference at that point. Thank you for the input on the ATV. I could definitely see an application for that as well. Perhaps, with good fortune I will eventually be able to do both! Dave

Dave | 03-27-2009 08:41 AM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 1647734) Thanks Dave, thats Ava she is almost 2 years old now. We have her sister from the same liter and she is almost all black. Good luck with the tractor, I did without one for a long time. Now that I have one with a loader it has made my life easy compared to the pre tractor days.
That's great. My Shepherd is almost two years old as well. What a great dog and is wonderful with my four children. Once we are living on our land, we plan to get a couple more and have them properly trained. Here is a picture of my trusty dog from last weekend on the land: http://www.cxp.com/username/picture 007.jpg I am willing to put in the sweat equity if this tractor deal doesn't work out. Just seemed like too good of a deal to not find a way to make it work. Worst case, I will just get plenty of exercise. I consider a tractor almost a must have but not a have to have (yeah I know, we will see what I say when I am dragging things around the land and digging holes!). Dave

Armed.peasant | 03-27-2009 11:26 AM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... I put in 12 8 inch post last weekend with my tractor and auger. It took a couple of hours to do that, by hand it would have taken a full day. The ground is harder here than where you are. The Tractor is such a back saver, in a number of ways. Great looking dog, I put in an undergroud fence last summer. I has worked well and they have not wondered off at all. I worked down in the Tallahassee area back in 2000 and covered an area around Perry and back west to Bay County. That area has more isolated homes that I ever thought was possible for Flordia.

CANUCKFARMER | 03-27-2009 11:46 AM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Underground fence? Can you give more details.

Armed.peasant | 03-27-2009 11:55 AM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... You lay a wire undergound, on the ground or to a fence you aready have it sends out a singal to the dogs collar and vibrates, beeps, and shocks (if you set it to) when the dog gets near the wire. http://shop.sportdogbrand.com/store/...ct_detail&p=24 You use flags to mark where the fence is, they will only test it a few times, Even if my dogs are after a cat or anything else they will stop at the fence.

teedub31 | 03-27-2009 12:28 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... I thought my underground fence was awsome until about a month ago. My boxer adjusted to it fine. Learned boundries and trained exceptional fast. Would not cross to chase a cat, other dog or walkers. Wonderful!!!!! Then he crossed it by being overly excited one day. Smart little shit realized that it would quite zapping him after a few feet and if he ran really fast he could basically get across it with little effect:36_1_28:. It is now pretty useless. We are gonna try a new collar that allows us to increase the static correction. Our current collar only sends out one level of charge. If I can find one that would make him pee and poop all over himself just once I thik it would go back to working just fine.:banana: But my story is just one story. My dad has one for his lab and I know of 3 other people that have them and have never had an issue. But their dogs are not as smart as Dexter is.:s1:

Dave | 03-27-2009 12:38 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by teedub31 (Post 1648860) I thought my underground fence was awsome until about a month ago. My boxer adjusted to it fine. Learned boundries and trained exceptional fast. Would not cross to chase a cat, other dog or walkers. Wonderful!!!!! Then he crossed it by being overly excited one day. Smart little shit realized that it would quite zapping him after a few feet and if he ran really fast he could basically get across it with little effect:36_1_28:. It is now pretty useless. We are gonna try a new collar that allows us to increase the static correction. Our current collar only sends out one level of charge. If I can find one that would make him pee and poop all over himself just once I thik it would go back to working just fine.:banana: But my story is just one story. My dad has one for his lab and I know of 3 other people that have them and have never had an issue. But their dogs are not as smart as Dexter is.:s1:
You could get a stubborn dog collar that would keep zapping the dog until it returned to the fenced zone. We had an underground fence with our dog originally. Dave

Dave | 03-27-2009 12:44 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 1648742) I put in 12 8 inch post last weekend with my tractor and auger. It took a couple of hours to do that, by hand it would have taken a full day. The ground is harder here than where you are. The Tractor is such a back saver, in a number of ways. Great looking dog, I put in an undergroud fence last summer. I has worked well and they have not wondered off at all. I worked down in the Tallahassee area back in 2000 and covered an area around Perry and back west to Bay County. That area has more isolated homes that I ever thought was possible for Flordia.
My area is no different. Perry is just next door to me. In my particular neck in the woods there are only about 3 to 10 homes per square mile so pretty sparse more then most think possible. North Central and parts of North West Florida are pretty spread out. If you live in Florida it would be the place to go if you are looking to get away from population. The benefit of my are is we are kind of in the armpit of Florida so their are no major road in our area leaving us out of the natural lines of drift when it comes to traffic from the south, north, west, and east. Dave

teedub31 | 03-27-2009 12:53 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Yeah, I have seen those. But it works on a different priciple then my fence, so I won't be able to just switch collars. They system you are talking about sneds a singnal to the collar to not shock the animal. Once it leaves that zone it begins shocking and will continue doing so untill it is back in the "safe zone". These are usually a wireless system. The system I have creates a boundry where the signal given is a siganl to shock within the boundry buffer zone of 4-7 feet. While insise the boundry, no shock. While outside the boundry no shock. I think we are just gonna stimulate the economy and put up a standard privacy fence. Excluding child birth, this dog has already cost me more then more 2 gorsl combined (j/k)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:s10::banghead::favorites 21: But yet he still sleeps with me every night. What can I say. PS soryy to hijack a tractor thread with talks of dog fences.

Armed.peasant | 04-06-2009 09:12 PM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Dave Any updates on buying the tractor?

Dave | 04-07-2009 11:38 AM
Re: 1992 Ford 1520 with 2000 hrs.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 1665867) Dave Any updates on buying the tractor?
Thank you for inquiring... It seems after several conversations with the owner, we went to go see the tractor this past weekend and "apparently" someone showed up with cash, a trailer, and made off with it! At least the owner gave us a benefit of a phone call so we wouldn't waste our time but I will still pretty put off by that. Unfortunately, we didn't get this particular tractor though by all accounts it seemed to be a great deal (at least the buyer that beat us to it seemed to agree). Unfortunately, on Craiglist it is definitely a first come first serve basis no matter what the seller says. The good news is I am seeing quite a few tractors pop up in my area so I am sure we will have another deal brewing soon. I will be sure to start another thread and get everyone's opinion. Perhaps next time I will move fast enough! (Kind of hard to coordinate quick trips with four children and a pregnant wife!) Dave

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