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rogold | 07-15-2009 10:52 PM
Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah He uses no money at all, just does his thing http://men.style.com/details/feature...d=content_9817 decent article, authored well

TechGuy | 07-15-2009 11:04 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
"Gold is pretty but virtually useless. Somebody decided it has worth, and everybody accepted this decision. The natives in the Americas thought Europeans were insane because of their lust for such a useless yellow substance."
Smart man (albeit very eccentric). There is truth here that everyone on the board should really think about. Gold and silver ARE pretty. And they are good for insurance IN the system. When the system is truly gone, they will be as worthless as the rest of the false gods of consumption.

Canadian-guerilla | 07-15-2009 11:09 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah nice article Quote:
He's either a latter-day prophet or an irredeemable hobo. Suelo's blog, which he maintains free at the Moab Public Library
anyone have any idea the url of his blog ? i read somewhere that about 100 feet into a cave the temp is a constant year round 60' F, is this just an old wives tale ? a little bit of reading . . . Cave Temperature and Depth http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env223.htm

RealJack | 07-15-2009 11:31 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah I know that area he's living at outside Moab. Not the exact spot mind you, but near. That area with running water? Paradise. Hard merciless beauty. I admire the guy. It took a long time to cut his addictions down to the point he could do what he's doing.

JJ_ | 07-15-2009 11:35 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah So easy - Even a caveman can do it...:565: Seriously though- Why can't the rest of us?

MagpieFairy | 07-15-2009 11:57 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah My favorite line: Quote:
Suelo's been here for three years, and it smells like it.
:111:

Golddust | 07-16-2009 12:01 AM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
Originally Posted by MagpieFairy (Post 1819818) My favorite line: :111:
What do you expect? No soap..:banghead: :biggrin:

Silver Spoon | 07-17-2009 04:04 AM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1819743) nice article anyone have any idea the url of his blog ?
Moneyless World - Free World - Priceless World

Canadian-guerilla | 07-17-2009 07:07 AM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Spoon (Post 1821708) Moneyless World - Free World - Priceless World
thanx :ok:

RealJack | 07-17-2009 09:29 AM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Here's some grist for the GIM Mill...:wink: "Moneyless means Free means Gratis means Grace means Gratitude. Gratitude is impossible in the world of Commerce. Freedom cannot exist in the world of Capitalism any more than a fish can live out of water. Calling it freedom does not make it freedom."

mozkill | 07-17-2009 10:11 AM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1819743) i read somewhere that about 100 feet into a cave the temp is a constant year round 60' F, is this just an old wives tale ?
the "ape cave" in Washington is a year-round 42 degrees. ( http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/recreation...the-cave.shtml )

TechGuy | 07-17-2009 12:05 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1819743) nice article anyone have any idea the url of his blog ? i read somewhere that about 100 feet into a cave the temp is a constant year round 60' F, is this just an old wives tale ? a little bit of reading . . . Cave Temperature and Depth http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env223.htm
I used to do a good deal of spelunking when I was younger and in better shape. I can attest that the temps do fluctuate...most generally accessible caves do not have the gradient change to notice a big change in temp. The temp and humidity really depends too on air flow in the cave. If the cave has multiple entries or multiple paths to the surface, it will generally be less humid and the temp swings a bit more. It is generally cooler to a point, but the humidity in a live cave is always VERY high. So, it takes a little getting used to.

TripKidd | 07-22-2009 11:47 AM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah I love his ideals, but I'd have to build myself a cabin or atleast a front fascia for the cave. I'm not that hardcore.

barter | 07-22-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah Quote:
Grinning, he presents the booty from one of his weekly rituals, scavenging on the streets of Moab: a wool hat and gloves, a winter jacket, and a white nylon belt, still wrapped in plastic, along with Carhartt pants and sandals, which he's wearing. He's also scrounged cans of tuna and turkey Spam and a honeycomb candle. All in all, a nice haul from the waste product of America.
That's the accurate descriptive word.

Saul Mine | 07-22-2009 09:25 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah He's not a hobo, he's a bum. Hobos and tramps are itinerant, bums aren't. Tramps will work, hobos and bums won't. None of them are ever known for any philosophical contribution; society's admiration for them follows cycles. Admiration for slobs and rebels grows as a society slips toward collapse, with a general rejection of all forms of excellence. This stuff is all fully explained at The Coming Dark Age.

TheSkeptic | 07-22-2009 09:53 PM
Re: Interesting article on man that lived in a small cave in Utah There are at least two or three threads about this loser... http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=393225 There is an important distinction between being self-sufficient, and just being a worthless bum who contributes nothing to society, and subsides on other people's garbage.

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