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R MacDonald | 10-06-2007 07:55 AM
Tiny 'tin whiskers' imperil electronics Interesting article on why consumer grade electronics may fail in the future. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071006/...e/tin_whiskers Better shop for MilSpec, if you want your technology to survive.

Maddie | 10-06-2007 09:35 AM
Re: Tiny 'tin whiskers' imperil electronics Interesting. Near the end of the article, it's mentioned that a tin-silver-copper solder might be what replaces tin-lead solder.

J.D.Rockinfeller | 10-06-2007 10:57 AM
Re: Tiny 'tin whiskers' imperil electronics "LEAD" has been under fire by tptb convieniently since its been found as the ONLY reliable substance to block microwave and sattelite snooping.... i mean gimme a break, when have you EVER seen a kid chewing in a circuit board!:rofl:...yeah... gotta save the children.....

R MacDonald | 10-06-2007 03:37 PM
Re: Tiny 'tin whiskers' imperil electronics Quote:
Originally Posted by J.D.Rockinfeller (Post 765718) "LEAD" has been under fire by tptb convieniently since its been found as the ONLY reliable substance to block microwave and sattelite snooping.... i mean gimme a break, when have you EVER seen a kid chewing in a circuit board!:rofl:...yeah... gotta save the children.....
From the article: Quote:
They also note that many types of electronics are exempt from the law, including military and other national security equipment, medical devices, and servers, data storage computers and telecommunications gear that use leaded solders. Exemptions are also granted when alternatives to the hazardous materials don't exist yet, or because the substances can't be replaced without jeopardizing safety.
I'm seriously considering using companies that deal with government contracts. Here is a hardy laptop made by General Dynamics: http://www.gd-itronix.com/index.cfm?page=Products:XR-1 Although it is very expensive for the new ones, you can always check out ebay for the prior models. A lot of these can be had though lease-back sellers. Quote:
http://www.gd-itronix.com/images/spacer.gif <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="468"> <tbody> <tr> <td height="160">http://www.gd-itronix.com/images/pro...header_xr1.jpg</td></tr></tbody></table> <!-- ********************************** START OF MAIN CONTENT COLUMN ****************************************** --> <table cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td class="SpotLightBar" colspan="2" bgcolor="#171e38">http://www.gd-itronix.com/images/spacer.gifGeneral Dynamics Itronix GoBook® XR-1 </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr> <td width="15"> </td> <td>http://www.gd-itronix.com/images/Products/xr1/xr-1.jpg <center>http://www.gd-itronix.com/images/products/rugged.gif</center> Launched in August 2006, the General Dynamics GoBook® XR-1 is the new standard in STATE-OF-THE-ART fully rugged wireless notebooks available today. The GoBook® XR-1 is more than the world's most advanced wireless rugged mobile computer. It is the first computing platform to carry the General Dynamics brand and embodies our 20+ years heritage and expertise in the field of rugged wireless device development. <table style="border-collapse: separate;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td valign="top" width="100%"> http://www.gd-itronix.com/images/awa...choice_120.jpgFebruary 2, 2007 - LAPTOP magazine reviews the GoBook ® XR-1 and bestows the Editor's Choice Award "When General Dynamics acquired the rugged-laptop manufacturer Itronix more than a year ago, the giant defense contractor must have somehow equipped its new possession with an afterburner from an F-16 jet fighter." Click here to read the online review. Click here to download a copy of the review (pdf). </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

Blue_pill_envy | 10-06-2007 05:56 PM
Re: Tiny 'tin whiskers' imperil electronics This is the RoHs compliance. It�s another way to kill the US small business. ISO9000�..CE marking�.TUV approval��now RoHs compliance. In order to sell your product into europe, you must be CE marked. TUV safety approvals are necessary also. Big business has the money to do the mark. It�s very expensive for a small outfit. For instance, for me to get a CE certificate on one of my electronic products, it costs me around $12,000�..and that�s if nothing has to get changed. It deals with emissions and susceptability issues. It makes your products expensive. Now they want everyone to be RoHs compliant. It makes everything more expensive to produce. It also makes a lot of inventory useless to that market. It may even make it necessary to go through the marking certificate process again on your products, because of re-design issues. They say I can�t sell a product (containing circuit boards�..switches�..chassis�.wire harnesses��paint�..plating�..etc.) with any lead in it. All components must be Rohs compliant��.to protect the environment. �They� don�t want my stuff hitting a land fill in 20 years��..to protect the children���..bullshit. You know what has an exemption?......car batteries. That make any sense? Quote:
Lead, however, is a serious health concern. In children, it can cause learning or behavioral problems......
But we�ll put murcury in their vaccines�.....that's OK. ..

R MacDonald | 10-06-2007 10:40 PM
Re: Tiny 'tin whiskers' imperil electronics MILSPEC laptops for cheap.... http://search.ebay.com/search/search...satitle=gobook http://search.ebay.com/search/search...ook&category0=

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