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vida loco | 02-25-2008 02:12 PM
what can goods last the longest? what lasts the longest...............tuna,sardines etc............ no..............I dont want to hear about SPAM:confused_ma::smokin: Also as an aside...............when buying salt just buy a 40lb bag of swimming pool salt............about 5 bucks and comes sealed in heavy plastic bag

mtnman | 02-25-2008 02:14 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Ya might not want to hear it but the answer to your question is SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

vida loco | 02-25-2008 02:19 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 982369) Ya might not want to hear it but the answer to your question is SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
I about spit my adult beverage out:D

TechGuy | 02-25-2008 02:21 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? I have started stocking up on canned ham lately, wife hates spam. Believe me though, spam IS on the list.

vida loco | 02-25-2008 02:24 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? wellllllllll.....................how long will a can of sardines stay viable or tuna or refried beans? Bagged corn chip etc..........how long will coffee last in a can? Thanks ladies:smokin:

TechGuy | 02-25-2008 02:31 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by vida loco (Post 982384) wellllllllll.....................how long will a can of sardines stay viable or tuna or refried beans? Bagged corn chip etc..........how long will coffee last in a can? Thanks ladies:smokin:
Best bet is dry goods. Beans, Wheat, Rice, Sugar, Dried Apple, Dried Carrot, Dried Onions, etc. They can last 30 years or more if properly packaged. This should be the bulk of your food storage. Can goods... can goods for the most part are short term storage (except spam). I dont plan on using any can goods more than 2 years out at the max, so we eat what we buy and cycle though it, except the spam and ham. Canned tuna and canned chicken will last a few years, but again, not a huge concern to us since we rotate them out.

Dave | 02-25-2008 02:40 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Some of the longest storing food outside of some already mentioned in this thread is "uncracked" wheat. Wheat in a sealed can could probably last 30+ years if stored right. Not bad if you ask me. Dave

Tn...Andy | 02-25-2008 03:03 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Wheat in a sealed can will last well past your time on earth. They found wheat in the Pharoh's tombs that sprouted after 3,000 years. We routinely used store bought can goods that vary from 0-5 years with no problem at all.......my guess is about 10 years on veggies/sugar packed fruits,etc......things with oils/fat content, I lean toward about 5 years before they start tasting rancid. Coffee ? buy the hard freeze dried packs......I'd guess 5 years easy....again, you have oils that could rancid at some point. I opened some nitrogen packed dry milk from 1998 recently.....could tell no difference in it and dry milk from yesterday. We're eating a can of nitrogen packed dry apples right now......rehydrate and they taste just fine. Some of the WORST dried stuff I had was a Sam Andy packed dry fruits....they didn't last 5 years in cans.....I suspect they weren't all that "dry" to start with. Drying has improved SIGNIFICANTLY over the last decade, with them able to take more moisture out than previously, making stuff last far longer. Freeze dried has always been the way to go if you want almost guaranteed long shelf life on normal products. #10 cans typically 25 years rated, meaning probably 30-40 in reality, assuming stored in a reasonable environment.

TechGuy | 02-25-2008 03:06 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? http://providentliving.org/content/d...4224-1,00.html The LDS church has ALOT of info on food storage. Check it out.

graspAU | 02-25-2008 03:06 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? The tuna and salmon I am buying now is marked for 11/2011 expiration (Chicken of the sea)

vida loco | 02-25-2008 03:23 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Thanks girls................going to buy what we like and rotate every year or two..............SPAM..........you are some rough and tumble folks:smokin: I just want 4-6 months of stuff that will help with standing in line with the other folks I dont want them to know what we have so if we stand in line with them and pitch and moan then we are not suspect

TLM | 02-25-2008 03:31 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? I ate a can of tomato soup last year that had an expiration date of 1996. :wink: For real. It looked good and tasted just fine. A week later I opened a can dated 2001, it had turned bad, you just never know. When people are hungry they aren't going to be throwing out food no matter what the date is, unless they check it out first.

AMforPM | 02-25-2008 05:19 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? vida, not trying to say spam is great... but if you slice it thin and fry it crispy it tastes pretty ok. It is not anywhere near the goodness of good ham or bacon, but not the inedible grossness of right out of the can. Canning in metal is not as good as canning in glass. The metal interacts with acids in the food. But glass is inert. Anything you can get packed in glass is a plus. But keep in in the dark. Light degrades nutrition too. We rotate our canned goods, as posters above. The best storage foods are the ones mankind has stored for eons: dry whole grains and beans. Freeze dried fruits, properly sealed, taste and keep better than the traditional sun dried raisins and prunes and dates, etc. But even the sun dried ones keep pretty well. We devoted the back portion of our fridge shelves to things that keep better cool. (We don't have a basement or root cellar.) So big hunks of sharp cheddar, raisins, lots of butter, etc are on the back part of the shelves. A root cellar is something I am giving strong consideration to building. Also a ground cooled air climate control system for the house so that we need less power during the hyperinflation years to stay comfortable. If I'm going to rent power digging equipment, I might as well. As you may know from visiting caves, the ground is a pleasant cool temperature year round: warmer than surface air in winter and cooler in summer. Air circulated through a lot of earth before entering the climate control system would save a lot of energy and only require a fan and filtration. Like most energy saving systems it is high input to establish and low input to operate. I have not done it yet because I'm not sure we are staying. Anyway, your major calories for storage are best allocated in the dry whole grains and beans category. Next comes the freeze dried foods, and then the canned goods are the top layer. Get extra of things you like, and rotate. Our grocery bill is higher than it would be because we get some storage food each month. And if TS never HTF it can still be a great boon. We had a few months when it seemed to be raining unexpected expenses, and for a couple of months we used some of our stored food to liberate FRNs. It could help out in a job loss or any budgetary crisis. We had home repairs, the wife's diabetes diagnosis tests, feral kittens we rescued with high vet bills, and vehicle repairs all arrive together, wrecking our budget. Because of our preps we did not even notice it in our meals. People who only have enough food to last the week on hand would have been in real trouble.

AMforPM | 02-25-2008 05:38 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? At that LDS link Tech Guy provided, under family home storage and online sales, there is a great deal on a starter kit, considering the price of wheat right now. For $25.95 it includes Quote:
The kit contains: All is Safely Gathered In: Family Home Storage pamphlet All is Safely Gathered In: Family Finances pamphlet All is Safely Gathered In: Basic Recipes pamphlet Financial reserve and drinking water teaching aids Two #10 cans of hard red winter wheat Two #10 cans of white rice One #10 can of pinto beans One #10 can of rolled oats
A little already well packed stuff, plus recipes and other information. Sure, grains are much cheaper by the 50lb bag, once you are set up to pack them. But if you are just getting started, the cans are convenient. We get both-- big bags we repack and cases of #10 cans. Beans we find are about as cheap in the grocery store bags and we get a few extra each month and pack them away. We have a huge pantry I added on when we bought the house. It had a huge kitchen for dining in plus a dining area for more formal dining. So I used the kitchen table space to add a giant pantry. We keep the rotating canned goods in there.

William Morgan | 02-25-2008 06:09 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Grains. Meat has a significantly shorter life-span. Rotate accordingly.

Martian_Time_slip | 02-25-2008 06:10 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Just a note, take of it what you will, but canned goods have a lot of metals leeched into them. Try to avoid them if you plan on getting or are pregnant.

William Morgan | 02-25-2008 06:11 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 982435) Wheat in a sealed can will last well past your time on earth. They found wheat in the Pharoh's tombs that sprouted after 3,000 years.
Speaking of ancient Egypt, they also found honey that was still edible. So, the ultimate enduring food is Honey. But I don't imagine anyone would want to eat just Honey.

William Morgan | 02-25-2008 06:14 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by Martian_Time_slip (Post 982684) Just a note, take of it what you will, but canned goods have a lot of metals leeched into them.
Only if there are corrosive liquids inside. No liquid = no leeching. Hence, buy freeze-dried or dehydrated.

vida loco | 02-25-2008 06:24 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by William Morgan (Post 982686) Speaking of ancient Egypt, they also found honey that was still edible. So, the ultimate enduring food is Honey. But I don't imagine anyone would want to eat just Honey.
Thanks for the honey hint..............much appreciated

randymatt | 02-25-2008 06:48 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Certain Dry Foods Are Good Past Their Best-before Date, Food Scientists Say

GoldRocks | 02-25-2008 06:57 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? But I don't like Spam. . . . . . . . . . . <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/anwy2MPT5RE&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/anwy2MPT5RE&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

Martian_Time_slip | 02-25-2008 07:01 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by William Morgan (Post 982690) Only if there are corrosive liquids inside. No liquid = no leeching. Hence, buy freeze-dried or dehydrated.
Yeah, I guess I was assuming canned goods like, soup, sardines, vienna sausages, etc. I knew one lady who craved canned sardines while she was pregnant. Fish itself has a high metal content, but canned fish would seem to have an even higher metal content, so when she gave birth, her son was retarded. Her family and her husband's family don't have any history of mental retardation. Just something to consider. Not trying to scare anyone.

Goldeneye | 02-25-2008 08:32 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by scottp999 (Post 982448) The tuna and salmon I am buying now is marked for 11/2011 expiration (Chicken of the sea)
Just bought 2 Doz cans of Salmon Expiration: 2013 :) I phoned a Sardine company.. The reply was 3 yrs packed in oil 18 months to 2 yrs in Tomato

TechGuy | 02-25-2008 08:37 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by Martian_Time_slip (Post 982751) Yeah, I guess I was assuming canned goods like, soup, sardines, vienna sausages, etc. I knew one lady who craved canned sardines while she was pregnant. Fish itself has a high metal content, but canned fish would seem to have an even higher metal content, so when she gave birth, her son was retarded. Her family and her husband's family don't have any history of mental retardation. Just something to consider. Not trying to scare anyone.
Modern cans are lined with a thin plastic liner, very low metal transfer is happenning any more. Now, tuna, it doesn't need the help!

Fullpower | 02-25-2008 08:43 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? If you plan to store tuna (or sardines)for any length of time, be sure to buy that which is packed in OIL. The product packed in water degrades rapidly. Storing very cool, but not freezing, will very much extend the shelf life of any canned foods.

Unclad Lad | 02-26-2008 01:37 AM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
I knew one lady who craved canned sardines while she was pregnant. Fish itself has a high metal content, but canned fish would seem to have an even higher metal content, so when she gave birth, her son was retarded. Her family and her husband's family don't have any history of mental retardation. Just something to consider. Not trying to scare anyone.
She would have had to eaten a LOT of sardines for an adverse effect; even then, it'd be impossible to draw the conclusion that the sardines were the cause. In fact, sardines are probably going to be a lot safer than tuna for pregnant women, since the heavy metals aren't as concentrated on their level of the food chain. Then again, injecting logic into a pregnant woman's decisions might be a tad difficult. :wink:

macrohard | 02-26-2008 11:13 AM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Do anyone here know if there's any difference between "normal" honey and acacia honey in terms of shelf life and nutritional value?

fasTTcar | 02-26-2008 11:21 AM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Honey will change consistency over time but will not rot. It lasts forever.

TechGuy | 02-26-2008 05:12 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by fasTTcar (Post 983519) Honey will change consistency over time but will not rot. It lasts forever.
A little heat will usually get it back to it's original liquid state if it has solidified and crystalized.

Riskfactor | 02-26-2008 05:23 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by fasTTcar (Post 983519) Honey will change consistency over time but will not rot. It lasts forever.
not only that, but raw uncooked honey heals cuts and wounds faster and better than normal medical treatment. reason being, the molecular structure of honey is so complex that bacteria/micro-organisms cannot survive inside of it.

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vida loco | 02-26-2008 05:41 PM
Re: what can goods last the longest? Quote:
Originally Posted by Riskfactor (Post 984134) not only that, but raw uncooked honey heals cuts and wounds faster and better than normal medical treatment. reason being, the molecular structure of honey is so complex that bacteria/micro-organisms cannot survive inside of it.
evidently not now with the colony collapse Man good.....nature bad:smokin:

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