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renegade_01 | 07-20-2009 08:51 AM
finally out in the country! Well, I finally got moved in... found a good deal on a new house on pier and beam with 1.33 acres. Its nice and quiet. I'm use to police sirens, gun shots, and idiots BANGING their music alll night. I am adjusting to this pretty well. Went to the farmers market down the road yesterday and it was awesome. I got fresh eggs, local meat, and local vegis. The meat looks sooooo good. I got some ground beef and some goat steaks. Seems like most people out here are more aware of what is going on. I need to get a telescope out here. :565:

Merlin | 07-20-2009 08:54 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1826178) Well, I finally got moved in... found a good deal on a new house on pier and beam with 1.33 acres. Its nice and quiet. I'm use to police sirens, gun shots, and idiots BANGING their music alll night. I am adjusting to this pretty well. Went to the farmers market down the road yesterday and it was awesome. I got fresh eggs, local meat, and local vegis. The meat looks sooooo good. I got some ground beef and some goat steaks. Seems like most people out here are more aware of what is going on. I need to get a telescope out here. :565:
Finally, you can actually see the stars at night? It's been years since I have.

Canadian-guerilla | 07-20-2009 09:01 AM
Re: finally out in the country! what size is the closest town ? make friends fast, when TSHTF, you don't want to be seen as an outsider

renegade_01 | 07-20-2009 09:19 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Yah, I've already had the pleasure of meeting my neighbors...one if which is a SCAMWAY sales fanatic. The guy introduces himself then proceeds to attempt peddling how I should get involved in "the business opportunity of a lifetime".... Cut-throat man.... Being the nice guy I usually am at first, I heard him out. Told him I'd think, about it over a few days.... I'm not one for pyramid schemes. The guy was a trip.... He did some lame test I found on youtube (perfect water test). After researching Amway I could tell it was a TOTAL scam, one that particularly feeds off the AMERICAN DREAM. He leaves some sample products over, I guess to have a reason to return so he can attempt peddling scamway again... so he comes back a few days later and I explain that I want nothing to do with Amway... he keeps trying to convince me and then finally I tell him I'M DONE. NO. NO DEAL... :no_ma: Why would anyone get involved in that garbage?! :confused_ma: KOO KOOO! Anyhow...thats one of my neighbors....the others are old folks. :cry1: Tonight "POSTED: NO TRESPASSING" signs get put up

Zusn | 07-20-2009 09:30 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1826225) Yah, I've already had the pleasure of meeting my neighbors...one if which is a SCAMWAY sales fanatic. The guy introduces himself then proceeds to attempt peddling how I should get involved in "the business opportunity of a lifetime".... Cut-throat man.... Being the nice guy I usually am at first, I heard him out. Told him I'd think, about it over a few days.... I'm not one for pyramid schemes. The guy was a trip.... He did some lame test I found on youtube (perfect water test). After researching Amway I could tell it was a TOTAL scam, one that particularly feeds off the AMERICAN DREAM. He leaves some sample products over, I guess to have a reason to return so he can attempt peddling scamway again... so he comes back a few days later and I explain that I want nothing to do with Amway... he keeps trying to convince me and then finally I tell him I'M DONE. NO. NO DEAL... :no_ma: Why would anyone get involved in that garbage?! :confused_ma: KOO KOOO! Anyhow...thats one of my neighbors....the others are old folks. :cry1: Tonight "POSTED: NO TRESPASSING" signs get put up
Good job getting out of the rat race. I moved to the country 7 years ago. My work commutes are long, but when I'm at home = peace + quiet. I hope you made your own NO TRESPASSING signs. :biggrin:

jetgraphics | 07-20-2009 09:37 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Food for thought - - - When imported petroleum (about 75% of our consumption) is interrupted, can you survive without resupply? Are you reasonably close to a railroad or navigable waterway? If so, you are fortunate, indeed.

Light | 07-20-2009 09:42 AM
Re: finally out in the country! I think I\'d rather live in the \'hood than have the Amway-guy chasing me.

NotTheOne | 07-20-2009 03:01 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Is the Amway guy married to the Mary Kay girl?

TTAZZMAN | 07-20-2009 05:42 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 1826250) Food for thought - - - When imported petroleum (about 75% of our consumption) is interrupted, can you survive without resupply? Are you reasonably close to a railroad or navigable waterway? If so, you are fortunate, indeed.
Intresting post.....it could imply many things..so im embelishing a bit not bashing first thing that will go when petro goes, is FOOD goes...food deliverys...food production...etc... so when petro goes...i want to be near FOOD ...be able to grow FOOD..i want to be near a water source that doesnt require power to produce... when food and water become a problem and scarce then the city dwellers will riot ...demand the gov take over the food supply etc. declare martial law etc..new orleans just mega scale.. travel and navigation would be lower on my priority list around (entertainment level) though a navigatable river could provide food (fish) and (water to filter) ...(water to irrigate)....i dont know what the heck Rail would do for you my priority list is something like air water food shelter with Heat protection self produced power trade travel entertainment etc not bashing just expressin some thoughts

Publico, Pro Se | 07-20-2009 05:46 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by NotTheOne (Post 1826752) Is the Amway guy married to the Mary Kay girl?
It would real interesting if the Amway guy was married to Mary Kay and an Avon click.

momopanda | 07-20-2009 07:00 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Good for you Renegade, congrats. Hope it's an easy transition and a happy new life. Got time to plant a fall garden if you get cracking!

Goldhedge | 07-20-2009 11:44 PM
Re: finally out in the country! What part of the country are you in? If you don't mind me asking....?

Silver Belle | 07-21-2009 12:41 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Congrats...there is nothing more peaceful than being out in the country and close to your food/life sources. Great move on hitting the farmers' market right away and getting to know local food suppliers. Not sure if I have shared this with you guys before, but my neighbor has the best "No Trespassing" sign ever. Simple and to the point... TRESPASSERS WILL BE VIOLATED Between him and the two heavily armed very interesting old guys at the end of my dead end road, needless to say, we don't get a lot of trespassers in our neck of the woods. They just keep driving and leave us alone. :wavey:

renegade_01 | 07-21-2009 09:03 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by momopanda (Post 1827112) Good for you Renegade, congrats. Hope it's an easy transition and a happy new life. Got time to plant a fall garden if you get cracking!
yep.. I have a lot of rocks in my soil. I've been picking up wheelbarrows of rocks the last week. I'm thinking of going to lowes and buying some big boards and making some raised beds. I think I'll start with 6-8 of them. 4'X8' long. I need to have someone come level out some parts of my land. There are some good shops around here that carry a good selection of organics, and I've been stocked up on bat guano for SHTF gardening. I have just about every seed you can imagine! I'm loving the country so far. Its quiet. People seem to mind their own business, and the farmers market kicks ass!!! Can't wait ti have the garden thriving...cause I have plenty of sun out here.

Pat | 07-22-2009 10:10 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1826178) Well, I finally got moved in... found a good deal on a new house on pier and beam with 1.33 acres. Its nice and quiet. I'm use to police sirens, gun shots, and idiots BANGING their music alll night. I am adjusting to this pretty well. Went to the farmers market down the road yesterday and it was awesome. I got fresh eggs, local meat, and local vegis. The meat looks sooooo good. I got some ground beef and some goat steaks. Seems like most people out here are more aware of what is going on. I need to get a telescope out here. :565:
Welcome to my world. First tings first - get your 12 gauge and blast clays for a couple hours this weekend. It sets the tone for the rest of your stay ...

Igotyour6 | 07-23-2009 01:45 PM
Re: finally out in the country! A few questions come to mind just for pondering. 1) Where does your water come from? if you have your own well do you know how deep it is to water? have you a plan to retrieve water from the well if the electricity goes away? 2) What are the arrangement for sewer? 3) Does your property have fence all around it? In the future you may want to keep a few goats, and a good goat proof Fence also sows predators entrance. 4) Why the no trespassing signs if it is a nice neighborhood? around here people would take that as an insult if some one moved in new to the area. (no hunting signs are accepted) But that is here in Kansas, and unless you have the property fenced and signs every 100 ft it does not matter in the eyes of ks law. 5) How far to the nearest town? 6) Is the house a newer construction home or an old farm home? (I ask because when the electricity is off and the air conditioner does not work, the old homes were designed for air flow when windows are open, newer ones are not, so some simple mods can be done prior to get air moving better before the time comes) 7) any out buildings? (Chicken coupe? :s1:) Congratulations, get to know the neighbors, learn their strengths and weaknesses, learn what skills you can learn from them, if the people in your area are like the ones around here no one likes arrogance, even if they are trying to show or tell you something you already know listen. be the Grey man and do not stand out from the others. once again congratulations!:ok:

renegade_01 | 07-24-2009 09:32 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by Igotyour6 (Post 1832092) A few questions come to mind just for pondering. 1) Where does your water come from? if you have your own well do you know how deep it is to water? have you a plan to retrieve water from the well if the electricity goes away? 2) What are the arrangement for sewer? 3) Does your property have fence all around it? In the future you may want to keep a few goats, and a good goat proof Fence also sows predators entrance. 4) Why the no trespassing signs if it is a nice neighborhood? around here people would take that as an insult if some one moved in new to the area. (no hunting signs are accepted) But that is here in Kansas, and unless you have the property fenced and signs every 100 ft it does not matter in the eyes of ks law. 5) How far to the nearest town? 6) Is the house a newer construction home or an old farm home? (I ask because when the electricity is off and the air conditioner does not work, the old homes were designed for air flow when windows are open, newer ones are not, so some simple mods can be done prior to get air moving better before the time comes) 7) any out buildings? (Chicken coupe? :s1:) Congratulations, get to know the neighbors, learn their strengths and weaknesses, learn what skills you can learn from them, if the people in your area are like the ones around here no one likes arrogance, even if they are trying to show or tell you something you already know listen. be the Grey man and do not stand out from the others. once again congratulations!:ok:
I have to fence off the property. I'm thinking of going wood fence all the way around, but that could get a lil pricey. I might just put up a ranch style fence around the property. I also am going to have a detached garage added to the property... A chicken coup will be in the foreseeable future, and shed for garden tools and fertilizers. As far as standing out...nothing I can do bout that, my arm is sleeved up in bright tattoos....lol. I don't care to mingle with my neighbors...I just want to mind my own business and stay to myself. Thats why I moved out here. Good friends will always find their way into my life.

Canadian-guerilla | 07-24-2009 09:42 AM
Re: finally out in the country! do you have neighbours right on your property line ? what have you been doing with the rocks you've been picking up ? maybe make 4-7 piles to mark your property corners/sides until you get a fence up

jetgraphics | 07-24-2009 12:58 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by TTAZZMAN (Post 1827002) Intresting post.....it could imply many things..so im embelishing a bit not bashing first thing that will go when petro goes, is FOOD goes...food deliverys...food production...etc... so when petro goes...i want to be near FOOD ...be able to grow FOOD..i want to be near a water source that doesnt require power to produce... when food and water become a problem and scarce then the city dwellers will riot ...demand the gov take over the food supply etc. declare martial law etc..new orleans just mega scale.. travel and navigation would be lower on my priority list around (entertainment level) though a navigatable river could provide food (fish) and (water to filter) ...(water to irrigate)....i dont know what the heck Rail would do for you my priority list is something like air water food shelter with Heat protection self produced power trade travel entertainment etc not bashing just expressin some thoughts
You are correct regarding short term SHTF. In long term SHTF, survivability will be enhanced by access to "oil free" transportation. Rail, specifically electric powered rail, is my prediction for the dominant land transportation for the remainder of the 21st century. In soundbite mode: Before petroleum, there were boats and railroads. After petroleum, there will be boats and electric railroads. What I suspect will happen, incremental adjustments will make the fossil fueled transportation modes more and more costly. The automobile and truck won't go away completely, but will decline 70% or more, leaving the more efficient steel wheel on steel rail to carry the load. Ditto, for navigable waterways. Without cheap and plentiful fuel, energy consumption will be restrained - unless a substitute cheaper and more plentiful fuel emerges. And as populations consolidate, the inherent advantage of rail transit will be self evident. By some estimates, a single railroad track has the equivalent passenger carrying capacity of a nine lane superhighway. A four track urban rail corridor is the equivalent to a 36 lane expressway - at a fraction of the surface area. You may not see it, but your grandchildren will see a vast network of electrified rail - - high speed, mainline, interurban, light, streetcar, subway, funicular, cog wheel, and so on.

Twisted Avatar | 07-24-2009 01:20 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Rock on baby....... I got dibs on the cellar in a pinch :ok:

renegade_01 | 07-27-2009 09:46 AM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1833374) do you have neighbours right on your property line ? what have you been doing with the rocks you've been picking up ? maybe make 4-7 piles to mark your property corners/sides until you get a fence up
luckly my neighbors are far off my property lines, and the lines are posted! I just need to get my 8k check in and get crackin on a fence.

TTAZZMAN | 07-27-2009 05:28 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics (Post 1833723) You are correct regarding short term SHTF. In long term SHTF, survivability will be enhanced by access to "oil free" transportation. Rail, specifically electric powered rail, is my prediction for the dominant land transportation for the remainder of the 21st century. In soundbite mode: Before petroleum, there were boats and railroads. After petroleum, there will be boats and electric railroads. What I suspect will happen, incremental adjustments will make the fossil fueled transportation modes more and more costly. The automobile and truck won't go away completely, but will decline 70% or more, leaving the more efficient steel wheel on steel rail to carry the load. Ditto, for navigable waterways. Without cheap and plentiful fuel, energy consumption will be restrained - unless a substitute cheaper and more plentiful fuel emerges. And as populations consolidate, the inherent advantage of rail transit will be self evident. By some estimates, a single railroad track has the equivalent passenger carrying capacity of a nine lane superhighway. A four track urban rail corridor is the equivalent to a 36 lane expressway - at a fraction of the surface area. You may not see it, but your grandchildren will see a vast network of electrified rail - - high speed, mainline, interurban, light, streetcar, subway, funicular, cog wheel, and so on.
I agree somewhat....disagree somewhat....but i think this discussion is getting out of the contex of the thread so i am gona quit commenting till this subject shows up in its own thread

johnlvs2run | 07-27-2009 06:00 PM
Re: finally out in the country! Congratulations. That's my dream, some day. Hopefully while I'm still alive to enjoy it. Quote:
Originally Posted by renegade_01 (Post 1827854) I have a lot of rocks in my soil. I've been picking up wheelbarrows of rocks the last week. I'm thinking of going to lowes and buying some big boards and making some raised beds. I think I'll start with 6-8 of them. 4'X8' long. I need to have someone come level out some parts of my land.
Couldn't you just make the beds from the rocks. I put cinder blocks around sections of my garden, and the plants like having them there.

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