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Twisted Avatar | 03-02-2009 06:03 PM
Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Letter Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned James, The need for usable skills in tough times, goes without need for embellishment. The grand question is: which skills are the most valuable? In any situation the basic needs are obvious � food, shelter, and clothing. Choosing what I would concentrate on learning, became predicated on what I could do, and what the community could provide in stressful times. I moved some time ago from the gulf coast to Tennessee to retire and begin preparing for the coming events. I moved into a community which is pretty much self sufficient, mostly by religious choice. Livestock husbandry ranges from cattle (mostly for milk), goats to chickens, hogs and horses. I began to raise goats several years ago, starting with Boer cross. After several discussions I have crossed them with a strain of milk goat to reduce the size (and therefore the quantity of meat to be preserved) and gain the benefit of milk products. I researched the process of cheese making and using products initially supplied from New England Cheese Makers, learned the processes. It was very interesting to discover that the rennin (for assisting in cheese making) actually comes from the stomach of ruminators, another by product of the goats. Preserving meats became my next concern. When talking to many folks, they believe that they will just run out and kill fresh meat when needed. Not only will the game be decimated in no time, but without a method of preservation it is wasteful. Preferred methods around here are smoking, honey and salt boxes for curing and preserving. The use of honey as a preservative turns out to be one of the very best. Honey has a natural bacteria inhibitor, and curing smoked meats in honey just makes life better. This in turn has determined the need for bees � My neighbor already has a couple of hives which produces enough for now. The use of honey reduces the dependence on obtaining sources of salt. In addition they are many maple trees in the area which folks tap during the winter and early spring. Many families have ponds a raise fish, which are canned by cold packing or salting and drying. Having fresh water is a paramount concern. Even with a spring the water quality can change with the amount of rain causing algae blooms. These can range for digestive distress to just foul taste. The stream water cannot be used without treatment, as we have otters, beavers, coyote, foxes, and a whole range of other critters, so amoeba type problems are probable. Boiling water is the surest, but is often not the most practical. Any numbers of excellent water filters are available, but the Big Berky is the most popular here. In any case the water has to be pre-filtered to remove organic matter. This can be done by straining through a clean cloth, then passing through/over a disinfecting agent such as a silver compound, or the addition of non-detergent bleach. The next best is a cistern collecting rain fall, but even this can have issues as it tends to clean smoke dust and pollen from the air on its way down. As for the vegetable gardens the goats do help with the fertilizer which is composted and added to the garden. The area I live in is pretty much a �rock farm� so there is a constant need to remove the rocks from the garden areas and add in soil from the hills behind us. This soil is usually pretty acidic with all of the hardwood trees. Most folks use lime from the feed stores � haven�t found a good substitute yet. Clothing is one of the details that I have struggled with. The ability to produce cloth is beyond most of us. Wool makes for great outer wear, but lousy underwear. Goat hair can be made into quite durable garments, somewhat at the expense of comfort. We have chose to use GI surplus wool socks, sweaters, BDUs (because they are very durable) and purchase and store long and regular underwear. We do have a real cobbler in the community that does make very nice shoes/boots, but I still have a back up pair. Many women here weave or quilt (using discarded clothing as well as new cloth). I do keep some �unisex� clothing on hand for whomever � mostly in the form of overalls. They are fairly cheap and commonly worn in the area, and during the cold weather are an additional layer. We have had most days at or below freezing and night down to zero. I have looked into tanning leather � it is a noxious process and can be done. I am choosing to have the hides tanned while I still can and store them against the future need as clothing. Our cabin is solid cedar timbers, and smells great! The downside is that there is a constant need to stay on top of the chinking and calking, to reduce drafts � I�ve used 22 tubes already this winter. We thought that pellet stove would be a great idea � wrong. First it requires electricity. With the power out you have to fire up the generator which is noisy and uses expensive fuel. Second the stove can burn corn or compressed hardwood pellets. Corn is food or the animals and us, and tough enough to grow enough as is. Besides using the corn leaves the odor of burned popcorn as exhaust. Compressed wood pellets are used on an average of 80# per day at a cost of ~$9.00 / day. Pulling the stove this spring and going to a straight quality wood burning stove that can be used to cook on. To back up a wood burning stove an axe, buck saw, splitting wedges or a maul, and or chain saw are required based on how much free time you can devote to it. Setting aside wood requires a year round effort to keep from killing yourself. Although we have electricity I do have a pitcher pump ready to install in the event it is needed. And have simple kerosene lanterns for light. I prefer the straight wick models, as the mantels have become very had to come by recently. Health concerns in rural living also means, that you have to have a working knowledge of first aid and basic medicine. The Red Cross has good courses on first aid and the older Boy Scout manuals give an acceptable knowledge as well. Around here there is a good deal of herbal medicine practiced. This is good for preventive and minor issues. I have chosen to invest in some older college texts on anatomy, physiology, and pharmacology, and a physician�s desk reference. These books help in diagnosing, but will be of minimal help if/when the main line drugs are not available. They are great for showing how to stitch and bandage wounds more severe than the first aid books cover. We keep a well stocked medicine chest with off the shelf medicines, and rotate them as needed. As we find local remedies that are effective, we also include them (i.e. willow bark tea as a substitute for aspirin). I have learned rudimentary blacksmith skills, and collected some of the tools as well as books on the subject. I can fashion horseshoes, wheel rims, forge weld, make cut nails and a few other tasks as required. There are many better skilled in this community and it will be more time efficient to trade/buy their services. I have a full time gunsmithing business which has been sorely needed in this area � seems like everyone has one that they need fixed. So much for a retirement business�. The acquisition of books, and how to reading material can spell the difference between existence and some degree of comfort. In addition it is my considered opinion the education of young people is severely unbalanced. The possession of text books, classics, and recreational reading allows one to educate children when contact is limited. The community has a long history of home schooling. These kids routinely pass the high school exit exams (same tests as the state requires for graduation) with higher scores, and at an earlier age. Most parents seek out folks whom are well versed to teach the children. Oh yea, one by product is that the kids are very respectful, and thoughtful. In conclusion I thought that preparation for tougher times meant more beans, bullets, and bullion. As it turns out, the retraining of my mind and attitudes has presented the larger challenge. Understanding how you store food, is nearly as important as what you store. What you can make is as important as what you can do without (toilet paper?) Knowing that one person cannot do all that is required, only means that you learn the skills to assist your community which will supplement everyone�s survival/ quality of life. I thought that being retired would allow me to kick back and enjoy some good libations. It has turned out to be the greatest learning curve of my life � and I love it. Jim�s preparedness course is a great place to start. But the real preparedness is in the doing! - Dennis S. http://www.survivalblog.com/

Twisted Avatar | 03-02-2009 06:05 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Advice on Contact Lenses Mr. Rawles I've worn contact lenses for all of my adult life. On your published advice, I've also bought two pair of inexpensive glasses, from LBEeyeware--a company mentioned in SurvivalBlog That was great advice. ($23 per pair, complete? You can't beat that!) The glasses are the correct prescription, but after so many years of wearing contacts, glasses feel downright "clunky" to me. I worry about breaking them, much more than I ever worried about losing or tearing a contact. My question is: What should I do about spare contact lenses and solutions? Should I skip them--and just plan to wear glasses when the "Schumer Hits the Fan"--or, should I stock up? Thanks for your amazing web site and great books. I'm taking the 10 Cent Challenge! you can expect my payment in silver dimes, ASAP! - Pat in Georgia JWR Replies: Thanks for bringing up a topic that I've meant to address for quite some time. If you feel more comfortable wearing contacts, then I see no reason why you shouldn't stock up on spare disposable soft contacts and extra bottles of saline and cleaning solutions. Just one proviso: Do not try to "stretch" your supply by going longer between discarding sets of contacts. Getting an eye infection would be tragic, especially in the midst of a disaster. Once you've used up your contact lens supplies, just switch to wearing your eyeglasses. One excellent source for very inexpensive contact lenses and supplies is 1800CONTACTS.com. Since they are a SurvivalBlog affiliate advertiser, we get a little piece of the action when you place an order, if you use our link to their site. So this is a good way to both get prepared, and to help support SurvivalBlog. Thanks!

BullionVince | 03-03-2009 01:59 AM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1603319) Advice on Contact Lenses Mr. Rawles I've worn contact lenses for all of my adult life. On your published advice, I've also bought two pair of inexpensive glasses, from LBEeyeware--a company mentioned in SurvivalBlog That was great advice. ($23 per pair, complete? You can't beat that!) The glasses are the correct prescription, but after so many years of wearing contacts, glasses feel downright "clunky" to me. I worry about breaking them, much more than I ever worried about losing or tearing a contact. My question is: What should I do about spare contact lenses and solutions? Should I skip them--and just plan to wear glasses when the "Schumer Hits the Fan"--or, should I stock up? Thanks for your amazing web site and great books. I'm taking the 10 Cent Challenge! you can expect my payment in silver dimes, ASAP! - Pat in Georgia JWR Replies: Thanks for bringing up a topic that I've meant to address for quite some time. If you feel more comfortable wearing contacts, then I see no reason why you shouldn't stock up on spare disposable soft contacts and extra bottles of saline and cleaning solutions. Just one proviso: Do not try to "stretch" your supply by going longer between discarding sets of contacts. Getting an eye infection would be tragic, especially in the midst of a disaster. Once you've used up your contact lens supplies, just switch to wearing your eyeglasses. One excellent source for very inexpensive contact lenses and supplies is 1800CONTACTS.com. Since they are a SurvivalBlog affiliate advertiser, we get a little piece of the action when you place an order, if you use our link to their site. So this is a good way to both get prepared, and to help support SurvivalBlog. Thanks!
Good advice!! I just placed an order through 1800contacts earlier tonight. I made sure I got a 2 year supply in addition to my current supply. I know from experience that you can stretch contacts way way out. I wore 1 pair for 6 months straight. The next visit to the eye doctor and he could tell because of the coding on the contacts. He gave me a big long screaming sermon about changing them out. I don't know anyone to date who has died or lost their eyesight to wearing contacts too long. If they start to mess up your eyes you will know. You will want to rip them out and your eyes will start getting uncomfortable. Thats when you need to change them up. I have read documents that show that changing contacts as frequently as they tell you to is a scam. You could really stretch out the uses in a pinch. I wouldn't go more than 6 months on 1 pair but if you took them out at night and let them soak it would help. Remember what ferfal said about people with glasses though. You are going to get called out by the masses as weak. I can see better with contacts and don't need glasses fogging up or falling off. Stock up on contacts!!!!

Unclad Lad | 03-03-2009 04:54 AM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned If your vision is that much of a liability, then have the LASIK or one of the other procedures done. I did, 6 years ago, and I have no regrets. I went from 20/550 (in one eye) to 20/15. Other eye is a "soft" 20/20. My shooting sure improved! :biggrin: Just don't go cheap--this isn't like buying an AK!. You've all seen the ads for "$299" LASIK. I paid $2100 for one eye, but I have 10 years of followup. I had to have a touchup after 1 year, and it was covered.

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 03-03-2009 11:44 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned You saw at 20 feet what most people see at 550? @_@

Unclad Lad | 03-04-2009 03:13 AM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned I was so nearsighted that I never needed a magnifying glass to remove a splinter, and I could grade diamonds without a loupe.

skilsaw | 03-10-2009 06:06 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Hunters might also consider switching to copper bullets from lead - to protect their environment as well as their own health. I wonder when they'll figure out that fishermen should do the same thing with their lead weights? It's not like you can't easily find non-toxic substitutes for either of those... :bear_rolleyes:

i love gold nyc | 03-10-2009 06:12 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned You can stretch out contacts as long as you properly care for them. This I know from a very good buddy of mine who is an eye doctor.

CrufflerJJ | 03-10-2009 06:17 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Originally Posted by skilsaw (Post 1617865) Hunters might also consider switching to copper bullets from lead - to protect their environment as well as their own health. I wonder when they'll figure out that fishermen should do the same thing with their lead weights? It's not like you can't easily find non-toxic substitutes for either of those... :bear_rolleyes:
Gosh, that's a nice touchy-feely Gaiea hugging idea, but I think I'll stick with lead for right now.

MNeagle | 03-10-2009 06:44 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Originally Posted by skilsaw (Post 1617865) I wonder when they'll figure out that fishermen should do the same thing with their lead weights? It's not like you can't easily find non-toxic substitutes for either of those... :bear_rolleyes:
They're already doing that in MN.

skilsaw | 03-10-2009 07:13 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned ^ Good! Quote:
Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1617881) Gosh, that's a nice touchy-feely Gaiea hugging idea, but I think I'll stick with lead for right now.
Well, Cu bullets have better performance too, though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZJXderphCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZJXderphCM
Only downside right now is their higher (double) cost... Anyhow, ol' skool resistance to change is always to be expected. It was no different than weaning stubborn smokers off cigarettes or dentists from mercury amalgams... Thing is, if lead paint was banned...why is it ok to shoot your land and dinner chock full of lead? :biggrin:

Saul Mine | 03-10-2009 07:41 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Speaking of glasses, you might want to get some non-prescription glasses. http://clearvisionhawaii.com/

Brent H | 03-10-2009 07:54 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Before undergoing LASIK, visit the following web sites: http://www.thelasikreport.com http://www.doctormyeye.com http://www.jackholladay.com http://www.lasikcomplications.com http://www.lasikdecision.com http://www.lasikdisaster.com http://www.lasik-flap.com http://www.lasikfraud.com http://www.lasikfraud.com/news http://www.lasikmemorial.com http://www.lasiknewswire.com http://www.lasikpimp.com http://www.lasikscam.com http://www.lasiksucks4u2.com http://www.lasiksurgerywatch.org http://www.lifeafterlasik.com http://www.mylasikstory.com http://www.stahleyecenter-malpractice.com http://www.theglennhagelereport.com http://www.tlcbigskylasercenter.com http://www.usaeyes-fraud.com

Brent H | 03-10-2009 07:59 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned And a few more sites about LASIK: http://www.lasiksos.com http://www.visionsimulations.com http://www.geocities.com/pifanon/dismay.html

skilsaw | 03-10-2009 08:27 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 1617995) Speaking of glasses, you might want to get some non-prescription glasses. http://clearvisionhawaii.com/
Cool, I've been looking for some good pinholes! What diopter will they correct up to, though? My myopia is realllyy bad right now.. :confused_ma:

Jodster71 | 03-12-2009 02:16 AM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Acidic soil can be fixed by the addition of wood ashes, can't it? The ashes are alkalyd and were actually used with rendered animal fat to make the first soaps. Am I wrong here?

Jump | 03-12-2009 03:58 AM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Originally Posted by i love gold nyc (Post 1617872) You can stretch out contacts as long as you properly care for them. This I know from a very good buddy of mine who is an eye doctor.
I stretch mine out pretty long... One time I got really lazy and ended up with an ulcer on my eye. Besides being extremely painful, It didn't take long to heal. I just had to go without contacts for 4 days. Looking back on it, it was not much of a big deal and could have easily been avoided. ...Also I wear the contacts you can use for a month straight without taking out. I usually wear them 3. I think I had them in going on 5 when I started having problems. I don't endorse doing this nor do I feel good about doing it, but in a pinch you can get away with it.

skilsaw | 03-12-2009 03:35 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodster71 (Post 1620885) Acidic soil can be fixed by the addition of wood ashes, can't it? The ashes are alkalyd and were actually used with rendered animal fat to make the first soaps. Am I wrong here?
Good question. How do you monitor soil pH? Thing is, different plants thrive under different pH's. Many actually prefer a slight acidity. So, do you gys use an actual pH meter, or is there an easier way you can tell just by casual inspection?

Unclad Lad | 03-12-2009 04:12 PM
Re: Some Preparedness Lessons Learned Quote:
Well, Cu bullets have better performance too, though. Only downside right now is their higher (double) cost...
Double cost is the smallest issue. Notice that the test video has the rounds tested at 50 yards--practically point blank for a rifle. Lengthen that by a factor 10, and I'll bet the copper bullet won't fly that far. TANSTAAFL--The Cu, being lighter, emerges from thew muzzle faster, but it also loses inertia faster. Second, 600 some degrees melts lead. More than double that is the mp of copper. YOU won't be casting bullets; big companies will. Big companies that may accede to the government's request to add microstamps to the round, or may stop selling bullets to the public. Lead is easy to work with and cheap. THAT is why lead is a threat.

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