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meatman | 11-16-2008 10:14 AM
BUG OUT These are interesting times we live in. The threat of terrorism, H5N1 bird flu, weather extremes, World War Three or political unrest should be of concern to all of us. Our friends, family and customers are important to us. We offer you the list below and urge you to prepare for any event that could change our lives in the foreseeable future. As Proverbs 27:12 says �The prudent see danger and prepare, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.� Please assemble your "Bug Out Kit" asap, it is a great insurance policy. In addition to your "Bug Out Kit" we recommend a food storage program. If we have an event whether it is terrorism, economic or weather related, we must have food to eat. The food delivery system works on a "just in time" supply technique where food for store shelves is delivered "just in time" to sell to customers. This system is very fragile. Any number of the above events can stop this delivery system. Grocery store shelves will clear out within hours of a major terrorist event. Roads will be closed. Truckers will stay with their families. You will run out of food if you don't have a good supply of food to rely on. There are many suppliers of good storage food on the market. A great source for information on storage food is the Mormon Church. They have, for generations, known the value of having a good storage food program. Go to www.google.com and search "storage food" for more information. Bug-Out Kit By John Hayes An emergency alert just went off on both the radio and television. You know, the one with that irritating noise and the voice that says, �This is a test of the emergency broadcast system.� Only this time it is no test. Most people wonder what to do, but you know and you�re prepared. It�s time to get the heck out of Dodge. Most large cities, depending on the emergency, could be in chaos soon. Nuclear, biological or chemical terrorist attack, civil unrest, hurricanes, world war three, revolution or any number of other occurrences could prompt the above. If you start preparing to leave the area after the alert, it�s to late. Prepare now. You owe it to yourself and the people that depend on you. This is a comprehensive list that we have researched for years. I will give specific recommendations as far as brand names on some items. Buy the best you can afford as your life may depend on it. There are four sections; First Aid Kit, Toiletries, Clothing and Miscellaneous. Don�t forget food. Alpine Aire or Ready Reserve pouch food is the best I�ve found. It is lightweight and only requires hot water to prepare. MRE�s are good but if weight is a factor, go for the dehydrated or freeze dried foods. Take all the toilet paper you can carry, leaves don�t work. If you need medication like insulin for example, have some extra on hand and rotate your stock if it has a short shelf life. If you wear prescription glasses buy an extra pair or two, now. Prescription sunglasses (polarized preferably) will be a worthwhile investment also. If you know nothing about firearms and gun control (hitting the target with every shot) learn now and buy a quality 45 auto and maybe a 12 gauge shotgun for self defense of you and your loved ones. A large automobile, station wagon or better yet a four wheel drive SUV or pick up with camper shell will get you and yours out of Dodge. Try and keep the tank at least half full and have a few full gas cans around if possible. Speed of departure is everything as exit roads may become blocked within a short time. Have your Bug-Out Kit ready to go at a moment�s notice. If the tens of thousands of people from New Orleans fleeing from hurricane Katrina had their �Bug Out Kits� ready to go, the suffering would have been negligible. Editor�s note: Items in red are required for your survival. Obtain these items first. We recommend military clothing for its durability. If anarchy (lawlessness) develops, camo clothing will help keep you hidden. If we have a nuclear or biological terrorist attack, the bad guys will come out of the woodwork to try and take advantage of the situation. Prepare yourself to defend your family or friends from such an occurrence. I. First Aid Kit. 1. Thermometer 2. Locking forceps 3. Cravat (triangular bandage) 4 Battlefield dressing with ties 5 Antiseptic or alcohol wipes in individual envelopes 6. Sunscreen 7. Chap stick 8. Ear plugs 9. Tweezers 10. Scissors (EMT type) 11. Sutures 12. Antibacterial soap (betadine) 13. Neosporin ointment � Watch expiration date and rotate. 14. Band-Aids (assorted sizes) 15. Nail clippers 16. Snake bite kit 17. Moleskin (used for blisters on your feet) 18. Cayenne pepper and goldenseal (caps) 19. Aspirin, Tylenol or Ibuprofen 20. Lomotil or Imodium (for diarrhea) 21. Tea Tree Oil 22. Tums 23. Calamine lotion 2. Toiletries I. Deodorant stone (found in health food stores, leaves no odor and lasts a long time, non-toxic) 2. Tooth brush and paste (non-fluoride tooth paste) 3. Hair brush 4. Soap (pick one that works as shampoo also, non-scented) 5. Razor 6. Insect repellent 7. Toilet paper (as much as you can carry, leaves don't work) 8. Baby wipes (preferably antiseptic or antibacterial) 3. Clothing 1. Military poncho and liner (military clothing is made for heavy use and is very durable) 2. G.I. sweater (100% wool and very warm). I prefer wool over synthetics. Wool will keep you warm even when wet. We are fans of Filson Wool clothing. www.filson.com 3. Gloves (water proof with Gore-Tex liner) 4.Cap (stocking-olive drab or camo). 5. Socks (3 to 6 pairs, wool is best, Filson wool socks are the best on the market) 6. Fatigues (2 sets) 7. T shirts (6 each) 8. Underwear (6 each) 9. Leather work gloves 10. Extra tennis shoes (black with no reflective areas) 11. Booney hat 12. Combat or hiking boots (water proof with Gore-Tex liner) 13. Extra belt 14. Field jacket or wool jacket from Filson. www.filson.com 15. Camo head net 16. Extra shoe laces or 550 cord 17. Laundry bag 18. Long underwear Editors note: You should take clothing that is regular civilian dress in earth tones (greens, grays, browns etc.) so you can blend in if called for. If dressing in fatigues, you might be taken for a terrorist. If you have to campout in the woods, woodland camo fatigues work really well to conceal you. Avoid day glow orange and similar highly visible colors. Grays, greens, browns and black are good "blend you in" colors. 4. Miscellaneous 1. Freeze dried pouch meals or MRE�s (as many as you can carry. Pouch food from Ready Reserve www.readyreservefoodsinc.com or Alpine Aire www.alpineaire.com are the best) 2. Gator aid powder (replaces electrolytes) 3. Small back pack stove and fuel bottle (military or Peak I from Coleman are good) 4.Mess kit and utensils 5. Canteen cup (military stainless steel) 6. Canteens (2 ea.) and 5 qt. Water bladder (also 5 gal. Water containers.) 7. Can opener 8. Katadine water filter or equivalent (this is a must have item, we must have clean water to drink) 9. Camera and film (maybe even a camcorder) 10. Back pack (buy a quality pack that will hold up under hard use like Kelty packs www.kelty.com ) 11. Zip loc bags (heavy duty freezer type, assorted sizes) 12. Maps (street maps and topo maps of area and destination) 13. Knife sharpener 14. Binoculars 15. Folding shovel (military issue or one from Glock are good) 16. Walking staff 17. Magnifying glass 18. Space blanket 19. Wool army blanket 20. Sleeping bag 21. Sleeping pad 22. Hammock 23. Tarp and tent 24. Large plastic trash bags 25. Leatherman pocket tool 26. Swiss Army knife 27. Hunting or skinning knife 28. Machete 29. Signal mirror 30. Whistle 31. Fire starter (plenty of butane lighters, magnesium fire starters, Gerber Strike Force is my favorite) 32. Candles and Boat matches (water proof) 33. Para 550 cord (100 yds.) 34. Compass (Silva Ranger is my choice) 35. Pen and Pad (pen should have permanent ink) 36. Hand gun, rifle and ammo. (Preferably a 45 auto and a 12 gauge shotgun or 308) 37. Flexible wire saw. 38. CB or two meter hand held radios (2 ea.) 39. Flash lights (5 cell Mag lite and Mini Mag lite in black plus purchase an LED flashlight for longer battery life.) 40. Snare wire and snap links 41. Fishing Kit (small collapsible rod and reel and accessories. Fresh fish will add greatly to your storage food.) 42. Repelling kit or climbing gear 43. Boy Scout handbook (a wealth of knowledge) 44. Sunglasses and extra prescription glasses (sunglasses should be polarized) 45. Small AM FM short-wave radio with extra batteries (So you can monitor what's going on) 46. Sewing kit 47. Holy Bible or Spiritual Writings (for inspiration and guidance) 48. Legal documents sealed in plastic bags (identification, passports, birth certificates etc.) 49. Money stash (one�s, five�s, ten�s etc. and some gold or silver coins) 50. Extra batteries for flashlights, radios etc. 51. Coffee pot and fixins 52. Salt, pepper and spices 53 GPS (global positioning system) 54. Gas masks (Israeli, US or equivalent) 55 Goggles (Military with Laser and ballistic protection) 56. Sun shower (this is a plastic bag you hang in a tree warmed by the sun so you may shower.) 57. Lantern (small back packer type or military) 58. Night vision goggles (optional) A great source for camping and outdoor gear is Cabelas at www.cabelas.com. Brigade Quartermasters is another good source for gear at www.brigadequartermasters.com A Bug Out Kit is designed for a speedy departure. It�s for a grab it and go situation where you must leave the area quickly. The above items may need to be modified for the number of people bugging out with you. This is an extensive list and you may want to leave some items out as space allows. To assemble these survival items and get them packed in your rucksack or footlocker would normally take several hours or days. A prepared, prudent person will have their bug out kit ready to go, possibly already in the trunk of their car. Remember that heat affects food. Keep a food container in a cool spot until it�s needed. Most important items include: Holy Bible or Spiritual Writings for wisdom, guidance and direction, water filter or purification tabs (we must have clean drinking water), food, legal documents, and a sidearm or shotgun for self-defense. These are perilous times we live in and there are many reasons to be prepared with a Bug Out Kit. Earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, civil unrest (remember the LA riots?), NBC terrorist attacks or even nuclear war or revolution are a good incentive to be prepared to leave the scene within a 15 minute time period. A Bug Out drill with your family is a smart move. Keep your automobile in good shape with extra belts and hoses and always have at least half a tank of gas with some full 5-gallon gas cans ready to go. Preconceived plans as to your destination are warranted. Plan where you will go. Pick 3 or 4 destinations and take a weekend trip to them and pick the best one with a backup. If you have a country retreat to go to, so much the better. If you have friends that are preparing, you might team up with them. There is always strength in numbers. I am always looking for additional items to add to this list. If you have any suggestions, please send them to me via email. Finally, Proverbs 27:12 says �The prudent see danger and prepare, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.� Prepare now. Don�t wait till the sirens are already going.

Bill843 | 11-17-2008 01:06 PM
Re: BUG OUT Heck, they forgot the bread machine and portable VCR/DVD player. .... Why am I not surprised that a place that sells survival stuff has a "bug out list" with so many items you'd need three strong men and a mule to carry it all? ------- I think the entire problem with the "bug out kit" is that it's an offshoot of the Rambo/McGyver mentality, that you can carry enough junk save you from anything--and it's simply not true. My "bug-out" PLAN would go something like this: 1) First you need to have a but-out destination, where a significant portion of your survivalist goods are kept, that is separate from where you normally live. 2) My chosen vehicle would be a street-legal but off-road motorcycle in reliable condition, and with enough fuel on-board to reach the bug-out location without needing to buy fuel along the way. 3) A method to deal with flat tires on the motorcycle--slime, tire plug kit or whatever. 4) A pistol and a couple magazines is realistic here. A rifle or shotgun is not. 5) a hand-held GPS receiver isn't a bad idea either; it would allow you to move cross-country without guidance from roads if you had to. 6) if you really want to start reaching, then another thing might be that if you lived near any rivers, then another thing I would consider would be to have a packable, inflatable raft that is big enough for you to float the motorcycle across bodies of water (with you swimming/pulling the raft). ...... In a time of emergency, rivers form a very effective natural barrier that most people will not have the means to cross--and the few bridges that do cross the river can be easily controlled by "various" forces. Remember what happened in New Orleans, when the Gretna police blocked the only bridge and stopped people from walking the shortest route out. ------- Anyway- The whole point of "bugging out" is to move. If you're carrying enough junk to change clothes, perform field surgery or have a picnic, you're doing it wrong. -end-

scyth | 11-18-2008 10:32 PM
Re: BUG OUT Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill843 (Post 1420402) Heck, they forgot the bread machine and portable VCR/DVD player. .... Why am I not surprised that a place that sells survival stuff has a "bug out list" with so many items you'd need three strong men and a mule to carry it all? ------- I think the entire problem with the "bug out kit" is that it's an offshoot of the Rambo/McGyver mentality, that you can carry enough junk save you from anything--and it's simply not true. My "bug-out" PLAN would go something like this: 1) First you need to have a but-out destination, where a significant portion of your survivalist goods are kept, that is separate from where you normally live. 2) My chosen vehicle would be a street-legal but off-road motorcycle in reliable condition, and with enough fuel on-board to reach the bug-out location without needing to buy fuel along the way. 3) A method to deal with flat tires on the motorcycle--slime, tire plug kit or whatever. 4) A pistol and a couple magazines is realistic here. A rifle or shotgun is not. 5) a hand-held GPS receiver isn't a bad idea either; it would allow you to move cross-country without guidance from roads if you had to. 6) if you really want to start reaching, then another thing might be that if you lived near any rivers, then another thing I would consider would be to have a packable, inflatable raft that is big enough for you to float the motorcycle across bodies of water (with you swimming/pulling the raft). ...... In a time of emergency, rivers form a very effective natural barrier that most people will not have the means to cross--and the few bridges that do cross the river can be easily controlled by "various" forces. Remember what happened in New Orleans, when the Gretna police blocked the only bridge and stopped people from walking the shortest route out. ------- Anyway- The whole point of "bugging out" is to move. If you're carrying enough junk to change clothes, perform field surgery or have a picnic, you're doing it wrong. -end-
Bill843 - Tend to agree with you. I am perfectly willing to put up with a certain amount of discomfort in trade for mobility. I have my "fishing bag" which was developed entirely outside of the Bug Out or WTSHTF concept. I live in a rural, mountainous area, and like to fish some pretty remote rivers. I've done a lot of backpacking in my life, and now, middleaged, my wife harasses me about fishing solo. So, lets compare. Here's my fishing bag. Medium sized daypack, containing 1 ea. three season down sleeping bag in compression stuffsack 1 ea. bivouac bag 1 ea. good quality space blanket 1 ea. 3/4 length waterproof parka with hood 1 ea. polyester fleece pullover 1 ea. silk longjohns, upper and lower 3 ea. smartwool socks 1 ea. polyester headsock 1 ea. polyester watchcap 1 ea. polyester fishing gloves - half finger with flip over mittens 1 pair waterproof gaiters 1 ea. medical kit to handle medium trauma 18 ea. vitamin E gelcaps for burns 100' paracord 4 ea. boxes waterproof matches 6 ea. esbit firestarter cubes 1 ea. magnesium firestarter 1 ea. wire saw 1 ea. small LED flashlight 1 ea. LED headlamp 4 ea. AAA spare batteries 1 ea. signalling mirror 1 ea. whistle 2 ea. small rolls toilet paper 1 roll supertape - you can find it at Duluth Trading Co. 1 ea. lensatic compass 1 ea. large area map Topo maps as appropriate 1 ea. ceramic knife sharpener 1 ea. MSR handheld water filtration device 2 ea. water bottles 1 ea. water bladder 12 ea. teabags 12 ea. Emergen-C packets 18 ea. energy bars 1 ea. tin cup 2 ea. small waterproof river rafting stuff sacks to hold the small stuff OK. This rig, complete, weighs 26.1 lbs. As I said, this is just to get me through 10 days of an unforseen event, and it assumes that I have some mobility. Now, what I carry on my person anyway is as follows: 1 ea. good walking boots Sturdy vest Clothing for the season 1 ea. Leatherman tool 1 ea. waterproof watch 1 ea. Casio cellphone which is damn near weatherproof 1 ea. folding lockback 3" pocketknife $300 cash in mixed bills Now, if I were to go into survival mode, I would add a couple items from my stash: 1 ea. 9mm pistol with two spare clips (42 rounds total), all carried on a shoulder rig, which, by the way, doesn't interfere at all with the daypack and 1 ea. 7.62x39 folding stock carbine (no, not an AK) with two spare clips (90 rounds total) Together, they weigh 18.2 lbs. So, total rig is 43.6 lbs. My goal is under 40. scyth

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