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R MacDonald | 01-20-2007 04:26 AM
Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Thought I would start a thread on this subject. Never know when you're going to have to work on something that the Corporation Ivory Tower types don't want you messing with. EXAMPLE: http://www.tamperproof.com/index.cfm...ction=products See what I mean?

R MacDonald | 01-20-2007 05:32 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 480606) Yeah, it would be beneficial to have the hand drivers or driver bits to handle those, but the only way the 'one-way slotted' is coming off is by destroying the head (grinding or cold chiesel/hammer).
I've actually taken those off before, by using a dremel with a carbide blade to cut a new slot. I already have a set of the security torx driver bits also. http://www.tamperproof.com/images/torx.gif

R MacDonald | 01-20-2007 05:45 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 480611) A battery powered Dremel tool and a screwdriver would certainly be the lowest profile.
I think about all of them could be defeated using that method. The problem is in the situation where you cannot leave a trace that you were there. Then you would need the real McCoy. Of course this is about working on your own stuff! :wink:

extremist | 01-20-2007 06:05 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware One-way screws can be defeated easily by filing out the metal slopes that prevent screwdrivers from catching.

R MacDonald | 01-20-2007 06:29 PM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhoi_fan (Post 480615) Possession is 90%... :Sorry:
True... Thanks for reminding me! :haha:

Mone | 01-20-2007 07:42 PM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware I've been called "torch happy" before- all too happy to have an excuse to pull out the cutting torch. I could SCARE those screws off with MY torch- hehe.

Jack London | 01-21-2007 12:14 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Chisel the heads off and put new ones on when buttoning up.

Infidel | 01-21-2007 12:20 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware http://www.tamperproof.com/images/email_butt-on.gif http://www.tamperproof.com/images/email_butt-on.gif

R MacDonald | 01-21-2007 12:21 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack London (Post 481188) Chisel the heads off and put new ones on when buttoning up.
That would work as long as the chisel didn't damage the surface... IOW: long shot.

Infidel | 01-21-2007 12:22 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Security screws, also known as one-way screws, are very simple in design. They are available in either flat head or round head design in sizes ranging from #6 to #14. They are slotted screws, and can be installed with a standard slotted screwdriver. Removing them is another matter. If you look at the graphic, you will see that half of each side of the slot has been smoothed down during manufacture. When you try to extract the screw, the slotted screwdriver tip rides out of the slot. Very ingenious design. Security screws are used in applications where either theft or vandalism is common and expected, such as wall-mounted safes and public bathroom fixtures and enclosures... the latter being the largest and most common application. onewayext.jpg (1406 bytes)Surprise surprise... there is an extraction tool. It looks much like a screwdriver, but instead of having a full-width slotted head, it has two hardened steel pins located in place of the slot. When used on a security screw, the two pins do not ride up on the curved surface of the security screw. Instead, they give just enough grip to turn the screw out. This tool is not easy to purchase. However, let me reassure you... there is no conspiracy to keep this tool from the public. Rather, it is used so infrequently that even the major hardware chains don't inventory it. Also, there are three sizes of this tool available... one for #6 and #8 screws, one for #10 and #12, and another for #14 and #16. At over $25.00 each, few people would want to own a matched set of these very specialized tools! And as if the exorbitant price wasn't enough disincentive to buy, I was warned by the supplier that the tool was not guaranteed to work. For example, if the security screw was driven into a very solid wood stud, this tool might not work at all. So even those of us with "the right tool" are often left to find alternative extraction methods. Security screws and stripped screw heads... birds of a feather The easiest alternative is to grip the head of the screw with locking pliers (a.k.a. Vice Grips) and just turn it out. If you get a partial grip, but not enough to turn the screw, you can use a medium coarse file to slightly flatten two opposite edges of the screw head. This will improve the grip of the pliers. Do your filing carefully to prevent damage to the "whatever". You can protect the "whatever" with a piece of aluminum flashing... 6" step flashing is great for this. Cut a slot in it about 2" deep and the width of the screw head. Hold the flashing in place and work the file along the edge of the screw head while resting it on the flashing. However, if the screw has a rotating sleeve on it... a type of hardened washer that will frustrate your efforts to grip the screw head... or if it is a recessed flat head screw, this method will not fly. What's a mother to do? You can drill a hole into the head of the screw and use a screw extractor to remove it. Since you can't see the shank of the screw, a conservative estimate would be to drill a hole approximately 1/4 the width of the screw head. A more severe extraction method would be to drill the head off the security screw. Then, you can disassemble the "whatever", and use locking pliers to remove the threaded screw shank. If none of the above methods work, you could always purchase a tactical thermo-'screw'-clear device at any fine munitions store near you.

Infidel | 01-21-2007 12:24 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware http://www.toolking.com/images/Produ...gec800-052.jpg http://www.nextag.com/security-screwdriver/search-html

G.Gordon | 01-21-2007 02:37 AM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Sears has a Craftsman bit driver and set that includes the torx security,hex security, spanner bits, tri-wing, and the offset phillips type. Lets me into lots and places I shouldn't be going.

R MacDonald | 01-21-2007 09:46 PM
Re: Defeating "Tamper Proof" Hardware Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Gordon (Post 481245) Sears has a Craftsman bit driver and set that includes the torx security,hex security, spanner bits, tri-wing, and the offset phillips type. Lets me into lots and places I shouldn't be going.
Is this the set? http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes

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