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serj | 08-01-2008 01:38 PM
Free Morgie! Sorry if this was already posted.. http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_579637.html Morgan Jones once built a tank out of scrap metal and drove it to church. During annual potluck parties at his backwoods Clarion County home, he often wowed guests with his homemade flamethrower. And sometimes, just for fun, he'd entertain friends by shooting an electrical charge through his body to light a bulb. His wife, Donna, says he's a little eccentric. story continues below "I never thought it was illegal to be eccentric," she said. "He's a good man. He's not a terrorist or a domestic threat." Agents from the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force thought otherwise when they arrested Jones last month as he left Sunday Mass in the sleepy hamlet of Lucinda. Jones, 64, was charged with selling a Romanian AK-47 assault rifle to an undercover agent posing as an Ohio resident. Later, when agents headed down a bumpy, macadam road to Jones' modular home, they found an array of homemade weapons, a cannon, drums of explosive chemicals and a depleted uranium shell. The military often uses uranium shells because they penetrate tank armor. But prosecutors say that's just part of Morgan Jones' story, which is playing out in a remote area of the state where hunting and fishing reign supreme, and mining and logging put food on a lot of dinner tables. Officials allege Jones is a major player in a militia movement whose shadowy members have a "propensity toward violence" against the government, elected officials, judges and law enforcement. Experts believe that after more than a decade of declining membership, these militias are on the upswing in pockets throughout the nation, including rural areas of Pennsylvania. There are 888 militia and extremist groups operating in the United States, including 33 in Pennsylvania, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama. That reflects a 48 percent increase nationwide since 2000. Court records indicate Jones is captain of the 91st Warriors Militia, named for the 91st Psalm, which asks for protection for soldiers in battle. A judge ordered Jones to remain jailed pending his trial because prosecutors claim he is a danger to the community. The three-year federal probe has resulted in the arrests of three other Western Pennsylvania men who prosecutors say are militia operatives. Marvin Hall, 49, of Rimersburg in Clarion County, and Clearfield County residents Bradley Kahle, 60, of Troutville and Perry Landis, 61, of DuBois were picked up by agents last month. Prosecutors say they are members of the 91st Warrior Militia and the Brookville Tigers in neighboring Jefferson County. They face weapons charges after raids on their homes and remain jailed. Jones and Kahle do not have prior records. Hall served two years in a federal prison on a weapons violation. Landis' only brush with the law was in 2006 when he failed to have a license for his dog or a valid inspection sticker on his vehicle. A low profile These groups aren't functioning like the militias of the 1990s, said Shari Kochman of the Anti-Defamation League in Cleveland, which monitors militia activity in Western Pennsylvania. Back then, militias were higher-profile groups engaged in public confrontations with law enforcement officials, Kochman said. Oklahoma City Federal Building bomber Timothy McVeigh was linked to a militia. The siege and eventual destruction of David Koresh and the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Texas, was tied to militia activity. Experts say militias started to lose steam in the 1990s after a series of high-profile arrests. Other members lost faith when predictions of chaos tied to the millennium did not ring true. Today, experts say militias are rebounding in the post-Sept. 11 attacks era because of fears of tighter government controls. Kochman said although today's militias operate more inconspicuously, they maintain the same basic, anti-government doctrines. "It's an obsession" she said. Their numbers are growing. "We're definitely seeing an increase, an uptick in criminal activity, after a couple of years where there wasn't very much at all. This is militia 2.0," said Mark Pitcavage, a nationally known militia historian. The tape recordings Justice Department rules prevent federal prosecutors and agents from commenting on investigations, but during court proceedings they offered insight into the militias' alleged activities. In one taped conversation, Jones extolled the virtues of an AK-47 rifle he was selling to the undercover officer. "It's a longer barrel and a longer range job," Jones said. "It's more like a sniper gun. You can launch grenades with it." In another conversation, he chatted about the availability of ammonium nitrate that can be used in a bomb similar to the one used in the Oklahoma City attack. "You can't find ammonium nitrate," Jones said. "I'll tell you a top secret. Cold packs contain ammonium nitrate. I have cases and cases of cold packs all over Clarion County." On another tape, Landis talks about wanting to "plink" Gov. Ed Rendell. Agents found what they described as a suicide belt at Landis' home containing homemade "grenades" made from over-the-counter medicine containers packed with small ball bearings and explosives. Kahle is heard on the tapes describing how to make an improvised explosive device using an empty bean can, a powerful firecracker, pellets, wax and a fuse. He boasted that if a SWAT team was trying to arrest him, "I would be tough to take." Pitcavage said these groups communicate, organize and recruit members through the Internet. One Web site, www.awrm.org -- which stands for A Well Regulated Militia -- is popular among militia members, survivalists and hate groups, he said. Participants, with screen names such as SGTBloodLoss, GunnFixr, Sniper and CatDaddyJack, can share information about ideology, weapons, training, equipment, recruitment and organizing militia units. "A lot of militia people are now networking on MySpace," Pitcavage said. Family, friends rally Jones' friends and family quickly rallied to his support after his arrest. A used car dealer in nearby Shippenville spelled it out on a large sign: "Free Morgie, he's no terrorist." Candys Pfendler of Shippenville, whose son is married to Jones' daughter, said she's known Jones for 38 years. "We're eating birthday cake the night before, doing family activities, and then to hear he's a threat," Pfendler said. "It's destroyed the whole family." Some portray Jones as a man who simply loves to tinker. "He's a genius," said Ken Burkett, executive director of the Jefferson County Historical Society. Donna Jones said her husband attended St. Vincent College near Latrobe for a year before transferring to Clarion University of Pennsylvania, where he earned degrees in physics and chemistry. He worked briefly as a high school teacher, and before his arrest repaired mufflers for a living in his backyard and sold used cars. His wife said he didn't like teaching but enjoys working with his hands. 'Not even a whiff' Pitcavage said local residents tend to downplay the existence of militias in their backyards. Many residents in Clearfield, Jefferson and Clarion counties say they've never heard of the militias. "I've never had a case in my term as DA with anyone purporting to be or claiming to be members of these militias," said Clarion County District Attorney Mark Aaron. "If there's renewed activity, I haven't seen it." Randy Bartley, editor of the Jeffersonian Democrat in Jefferson County, said that in the 1990s when the Ku Klux Klan was undergoing a revival, he knew every member. Yet he doesn't know one member of the Brookville Tigers Militia. Law enforcement officials believe the organization has about 200 members. "This doesn't smell right," Bartley said. "There hasn't been a peep; not even a whiff of this stuff." A lonely man Defendant Marvin Hall's sister, Joyce Mineweaser, said her brother never discussed being a member of a militia. She describes her brother as a lonely man who drinks too much and is bipolar. She doubts he is guilty. "On Sept. 11, 2001, he sat on the couch and cried. He said, 'How could anybody kill that many people?' Does that sound like a terrorist?" she said.

Camp Bassfish | 08-01-2008 01:39 PM
Re: Free Morgie! Drop the "m" and send directions! :s9:

Rebel Yarr | 08-01-2008 01:51 PM
Re: Free Morgie! ^^ lol - but seriously - the Fed's can paint anyone a terrorist these days.

serj | 08-01-2008 02:02 PM
Re: Free Morgie! you can read more about his group here http://groups.google.com/group/misc....c26621815789d#

Heimdhal | 08-01-2008 02:16 PM
Re: Free Morgie! Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel Yarr (Post 1218736) ^^ lol - but seriously - the Fed's can paint anyone a terrorist these days.
well yeah, that line in there with the "there are more than xxx number of militias and EXTREMIST groups in america today" Militas are considered extremist groups by our government...sadly so few have read our constitution.

Saul Mine | 08-01-2008 05:29 PM
Re: Free Morgie! Quote:
Kochman said although today's militias operate more inconspicuously, they maintain the same basic, anti-government doctrines.
That is the significant part. Anybody who is pro-constitution is anti-government now. Cold packs, huh? I didn't know that!

Drumblebum | 08-01-2008 05:37 PM
Re: Free Morgie! Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Mine (Post 1219055) That is the significant part. Anybody who is pro-constitution is anti-government now.
+1 - nailed it. That absolutely illustrates where America lies today...

Unclad Lad | 08-02-2008 02:04 AM
Loose Lips Sink Ships Quote:
they maintain the same basic, anti-government doctrines.
They make it sound like a bad thing. How do you tell the chairborne rangers from the real thing? Quote:
In one taped conversation, Jones extolled the virtues of an AK-47 rifle he was selling to the undercover officer. "It's a longer barrel and a longer range job," Jones said. "It's more like a sniper gun. You can launch grenades with it." In another conversation, he chatted about the availability of ammonium nitrate that can be used in a bomb similar to the one used in the Oklahoma City attack. "You can't find ammonium nitrate," Jones said. "I'll tell you a top secret. Cold packs contain ammonium nitrate. I have cases and cases of cold packs all over Clarion County." On another tape, Landis talks about wanting to "plink" Gov. Ed Rendell. Agents found what they described as a suicide belt at Landis' home containing homemade "grenades" made from over-the-counter medicine containers packed with small ball bearings and explosives. Kahle is heard on the tapes describing how to make an improvised explosive device using an empty bean can, a powerful firecracker, pellets, wax and a fuse. He boasted that if a SWAT team was trying to arrest him, "I would be tough to take."
The real militiaman wouldn't talk about it to a stranger, let alone boast. Stupid, and a bit sad. The cold pack thing is correct, though. But the stuff is everywhere, so honestly, what's the big deal?

AurumAg | 10-27-2008 11:33 PM
Lynch Pitcavage! One of my militia brethren at AWRM brought this thread to my attention. There are very few humans in this world towards whom I am hateful, and Mark Pitcavage is definitely one of them. I know he is a paid tool, and nothing more than a two-bit media whore, but all vocations possess their occupational hazards, and since his job is to destroy liberty, then he must be prepared to swing from a light-post with the rest of the tyrannical traitors, thieves, sycophants, goons, and lackeys. Prior to his public lynching, Mark Pitcavage deserves to be _____ & _______ed (fill in the blanks).

Lars Ragnarsson | 10-28-2008 12:25 AM
Re: Free Morgie! Quote:
with screen names such as SGTBloodLoss, GunnFixr, Sniper and CatDaddyJack
Yeah, those sound like some real dangerous dudes....

TheNocturnalEgyptian | 10-29-2008 04:28 PM
Re: Free Morgie! The government disbanding a well regulated militia, when no crime has been commited, sounds bogus to me. Redress of grievances.

Twisted Avatar | 10-29-2008 05:17 PM
Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 1219750) The real militiaman wouldn't talk about it to a stranger, let alone boast. Stupid, and a bit sad.
YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL STUFF WITH SOMEBODY YOU DONT KNOW....AND EVEN IF YOU DO .......

tanner12oz | 10-29-2008 08:07 PM
Re: Free Morgie! doesn't it mention a militia in the constitution????? so why is militia such a dirty word?? seems like this is another case where tptb were able to brainwash the general public and portray something as whatever the hell they want it to be.

Unclad Lad | 10-30-2008 02:13 AM
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seems like this is another case where tptb were able to brainwash the general public and portray something as whatever the hell they want it to be.
--and knowing that this is the way it is, vs how you think it oughta be, you, as Twisted so eloquently put it, SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE!!!

Chris_Is_Here | 10-30-2008 08:00 AM
Re: Free Morgie! excuse me, but what the hell is the anti-defamation league doing monitoring so-called militia groups? and since when are they any more credible than any other group? One has to wonder how many of these 888 so-called militias are even armed.....I call BS on this one...

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