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Darkside | 02-13-2008 12:14 PM
I need a good light for my AR-15 I have zero experience with tactical weapon mounted lights so i need your recommendations. would like something which mounts onto my ar-15's handguard (dont have a front grip attached- just vanilla stock). would prefer LED light... what models are you satisfied with? what to avoid? whats best way to mount?

Tn...Andy | 02-13-2008 12:18 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 If you plan on this for use on other armed folks, I'd be tempted to just shoot myself and cut out the middle man. Lights on weapons = targets of opportunity ("I'm right here....shoot me") despite the cool Swat pictures.

Darkside | 02-13-2008 12:28 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 966330) If you plan on this for use on other armed folks, I'd be tempted to just shoot myself and cut out the middle man. Lights on weapons = targets of opportunity ("I'm right here....shoot me") despite the cool Swat pictures.
this is an excellent point, but iI think t's a risk I must take. the alternative is to turn on the lights in the room I am in which would expose me even worse and reveal that I am armed. At least with the mounted light they could think I'm just waving a flashlight around. it's just something for home defense. I dont plan on doing something dumb like seeking out intruders in my whole house but in case of danger i need to at least secure the 2nd floor at the staircase- a bottleneck i can easily defend. and I believe it would be best if I didn't turn the lights on. and unless its a full moon out i've really got the shittiest night vision, perhaps a side effect of my laser eye surgury years back but i dont remember ever having good night vision.

Tn...Andy | 02-13-2008 12:42 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Couple suggetions: 1. Night vision equipment 2. Use a pistol instead, holding in one hand, and a GOOD flashlite, not an LED, but an eye-blinder Surefire with a Xenon bulb and a momentary switch in the other hand...holding the light offside and high away from you..... 3. If you have a known area to defend, consider a set of flood lamps installed either permanent, or set-up as needed hooked to a battery, and aimed in the direction of potential attackers with you behind the lights.

Darkside | 02-13-2008 12:50 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 966375) Couple suggetions: 1. Night vision equipment
Working on it. I'm trying to save up some dough for a good night vision system. I bought some cheap Russian one couple years ago just to see how it works and if I like it but it's really just a toy and nothing you can use in a serious situation. Quote:
2. Use a pistol instead, holding in one hand, and a GOOD flashlite, not an LED, but an eye-blinder Surefire with a Xenon bulb and a momentary switch in the other hand...holding the light offside and high away from you.....
Heh, working on this too. I live right by New York City- and the gun laws here are extreme. I started seeking a gun permit last year in June, it took me several months to complete the requirements before I could submit the application. Then they told me not to even bother asking for status on the approval process for 6 months, and that was in late October. Quote:
3. If you have a known area to defend, consider a set of flood lamps installed either permanent, or set-up as needed hooked to a battery, and aimed in the direction of potential attackers with you behind the lights.
this is something i can do. will have to consider it thanks for your suggestions!

Tn...Andy | 02-13-2008 01:05 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 For the purposes of entertainment only and Not to be taken as advice on an actual course of action: If it were me, I would take a "road trip" to the sunny South, and pick up whatever I wanted in a private sale using the local trading papers....then return home with it and squirrel away until such time as 'Law and Order' no longer existed. I'd also buy a shotgun for your favorite sport of duck hunting ( I think even NY approves of that, as long as you go out of state, right ? )....something like a Remington 870 with a 26-28" barrel, and a few boxes of #6 or so shot for appearance sake. Then I'd also buy a short ( 18-20" ) barrel to interchange with it, and a BUNCH of 00Buck and store that in a secure, separate location. Good shotgun in tight quarters beats an AR-15 in most cases.....every pull of the trigger sends 8-12 .30/cal balls downrange in the case of 00Buck

TechGuy | 02-13-2008 01:27 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 966411) For the purposes of entertainment only and Not to be taken as advice on an actual course of action: If it were me, I would take a "road trip" to the sunny South, and pick up whatever I wanted in a private sale using the local trading papers....then return home with it and squirrel away until such time as 'Law and Order' no longer existed. I'd also buy a shotgun for your favorite sport of duck hunting ( I think even NY approves of that, as long as you go out of state, right ? )....something like a Remington 870 with a 26-28" barrel, and a few boxes of #6 or so shot for appearance sake. Then I'd also buy a short ( 18-20" ) barrel to interchange with it, and a BUNCH of 00Buck and store that in a secure, separate location. Good shotgun in tight quarters beats an AR-15 in most cases.....every pull of the trigger sends 8-12 .30/cal balls downrange in the case of 00Buck
870 express=$199 on sale, 18 inch barrel , 50 bucks or so, that is my setup.. and yes much better than a pistol. Oh and I added a 3 shot extension to it as well, so now I have a 7 shot capacity.

graspAU | 02-13-2008 01:56 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 I'm looking at the different surefire G2 models. Check out this page. The great thing about them is, you can decide when to turn it on, or to lockout the on/off all together if you want to make sure you do not give up your position. Mounting a veritical grip allows you to use your thumb on the end cap switch (momentary on). Identifying a target in the dark before you pull the trigger is essential if a friend could be in the area. Whether it's a light on the gun or in your hand. http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetac...rs+%2F++Combos A couple of vertical grips on this page: http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetac...niture%3AGrips Andy makes some great points.

Fullpower | 02-13-2008 02:05 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Regarding "GUN LIGHTS" for defensive situations... Bad idea, the best defense possible is to NOT BE SEEN. Get up in the middle of the night, go get a glass of water, do that in the dark a hundred or so times, and YOU WILL then KNOW your own house better than anyone else. an intruder WILL be using illumination of some sort, making THE INTRUDER an easy target for you.

Twisted Avatar | 02-13-2008 02:24 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside (Post 966385) Working on it. I'm trying to save up some dough for a good night vision system. I bought some cheap Russian one couple years ago just to see how it works and if I like it but it's really just a toy and nothing you can use in a serious situation. Heh, working on this too. I live right by New York City- and the gun laws here are extreme. I started seeking a gun permit last year in June, it took me several months to complete the requirements before I could submit the application. Then they told me not to even bother asking for status on the approval process for 6 months, and that was in late October. this is something i can do. will have to consider it thanks for your suggestions!
God bless you on getting a permit in the city....... I lived in NJ and I barley got it over there by there hair of my chinny chin chin. but when I saw the sheer insanity of the NY I was like thank you jesus!! You have me pulling for you!! I think I saw a gun group that can help get your permit faster and if they cant help they will give your money back I will see if I can dig it up. T

Twisted Avatar | 02-13-2008 02:33 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Here is the number for the guy at the bottom I dont have the original link but the text is what they offer maybe this can be of service to somebody trying to pick up there licesnece In NY T You must have two NYC Licenses, one for a handgun(s) and one for rifles/shotguns. The filing fee for a 3 year Premise License (Handguns) is a one time fee of $94.25 for your fingerprinting and $340.00 for the license which is renewable every 3 years for $340.00. The filing fee for a 3 year Rifle/Shotgun License is a one time fee of $94.25 for your fingerprinting and $190.00 for the license which is renewable every 3 years for $190.00. These fee's are paid by you to the NYCPD when you summit your applications. Our fee which includes preparation of your applications, typing, photos, notary service, club membership with unlimited access to 4 ranges, unlimited instructions at any time, discounts at Guns & Ammo Gun Shop, no meetings, no work details, just come and enjoy yourself. All this for $699.00 for the first year with a $91.00 per year membership fee after your first year. Or you can take advantage of our Life Time Membership Plan for only $999.00, no fee's ever regardless of any price increases or range fee's. Im available 7 days a week for appointments, we accept all major credit cards, personal checks, Money Orders. If you wish to make an appointment or have any questions, I can be reached at (631)827-6109 any day of the week.

SilverCity | 02-14-2008 01:54 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 How about Motion-Activated, Solar Powered, Security lights? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93661

learn2swim | 02-14-2008 02:07 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Lights on guns = bad idea.. Looks cool, buts that's about it. Know the area you have to defend, and if it's your house--- no excuses... Home defense-- shotgun is the choice backed up with a handgun.. PS... stay away from a pump action, it gives your position away..

Darkside | 02-14-2008 10:00 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 I do own a shotgun- it's one of the Russian made Saiga shotguns. Comes with a 5-round magazine. Semi-automatic operation. You can buy 8-round mags and even something like a 25 or 30 round drum for them too, but that's illegal here in the New York. What I dont like about using the shotgun is it's got a hunting stock (no pistol grip) and to convert the stock to a pistol grip would again be illegal here in New York. It's not very comfortable to operate in this hunting stock configuration, especially in tight quarters like the interior of a house.

Mumwaldee | 02-14-2008 11:04 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Surefire makes great lights. There are several mounting options. That being said...unless you're going to be doing 2 a.m. door breaching I'd skip it and go with something like night sights or EOtech. It's yours so do what you want...most do. http://www.ar15.com/lite/topic.html?b=3&f=20&t=180898 *can't see the old full version on the link, but you can scroll through the pages for a lot of examples (in between the broken links)

Mumwaldee | 02-14-2008 11:17 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 If you're using it for home defense I'd recommend putting night lights in your home to back light any intruders and then using verbal communication to identify them. Of course if they are knocking your door down or busting through the window and aren't wearing firemen's gear you can go to work. Just don't go overboard on the tactical stuff...don't become this guy: http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ocusgenius.jpg

Darkside | 02-14-2008 11:26 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 967862) If you're using it for home defense I'd recommend putting night lights in your home to back light any intruders and then using verbal communication to identify them. Of course if they are knocking your door down or busting through the window and aren't wearing firemen's gear you can go to work. Just don't go overboard on the tactical stuff...don't become this guy: http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ocusgenius.jpg
lol, that's hilarious! no, I dont accessorize my firearms. this would be the first accessory i'd ever add to any of my firearms. I was thinking of getting night sights but it wouldnt really help me since it only illuminates the sights- not the target. that would be good for outdoors. i just need a quick temporary solution for indoors until i can afford a better solution like the night vision recommended earlier

SilverCity | 02-14-2008 11:35 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 3 Attachment(s) Check out this one: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR031-3313-2204.html Cheaper Than Dirt has several light/mount options...Get their catalogue. Add a Surefire or Streamlight TLR-1 to the left side (for a righty)...operate with left thumb. And yes, there are times when a weapon mounted light is very handy...it gives you another option and it allows you to identify your target. If you don't want to give away your position under certain situations, don't use it... Also my favorite tritium front sight is Meprolight...I don't recommend any rear one--too close to your eye and blurry.

Bogie | 02-14-2008 10:51 PM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Bright Flashlights get it touch with them the owner is named Calvin they will have a G2 package with mount. Best prices around

macrohard | 02-15-2008 05:32 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 www.surefire.com ?

macrohard | 02-15-2008 05:34 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by macrohard (Post 968921) www.surefire.com ?
There are also cheaps surfire clones from china that works fine.

Twisted Avatar | 02-15-2008 07:29 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Question: what type of batteries do they these lights take? and how long to they usally last?? are they recharable or something? T

extremist | 02-15-2008 08:11 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Usually two lithium 3-volt CR123, lasting around 1-2 hours.

learn2swim | 02-15-2008 09:24 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 You don't need no stinkin light..:D Put that money towards a sniper course!:wink:

Fullpower | 02-19-2008 01:48 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Know your defensive perimeter, become one with the dark.

Dutch Dog | 02-19-2008 07:09 AM
Re: I need a good light for my AR-15 Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie (Post 968789) Bright Flashlights get it touch with them the owner is named Calvin they will have a G2 package with mount. Best prices around
I second Bright Flashlights. Calvin was recommended highly on AR15.com and he was helpful in selecting a light. I got a pentagon LED which I use as my primary house light and have the option of mounting it on my AR if necessary. He also has killer prices as well.

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