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Dissipate | 07-22-2007 07:19 AM
How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? I have plans for going expat from the U.S. in the future. I don't like where the country has gone and where it is headed. But also, if the shit is about to hit the fan, and I need to just get out quickly, I need to know how to get a significant amount of gold out of the U.S. without being noticed. Obviously, if I have the bullion on me at an airport, the TSA is going to get suspicious. Any ideas?

shades2 | 07-22-2007 07:47 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? First of all, don't advertise your plans on the Internet. :)

Dissipate | 07-22-2007 07:54 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by shades2 (Post 671086) First of all, don't advertise your plans on the Internet. :)
I think we have all advertised ourselves on the Internet. If TPTB have targeted me, I'm sure they have targeted others on GIM.

Atahualpa | 07-22-2007 10:37 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Get there by ship or land...depends on where you're going? Are you willing to declare it if it is over 10000.?

elroy | 07-22-2007 10:41 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Ship it Fedex or UPS. Send your wife or other trusted person to __________ and then ship the gold to them in several small packages. Insured of course.

Coltwind | 07-22-2007 11:03 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Just sell it in the states. And buy your gold in Dubai. While your at it say hola to the bend landen family :)

grapejelly | 07-22-2007 11:05 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Put them in attractive coin books perhaps with labels in them. Treat them numistmatically and I think people get bored silly when they see them.

EdThePilot | 07-22-2007 11:20 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 671180) put them in airtite holders and then cut out photocopies of the u.s. dollar coin and tape them to the holders. they will look like dollar coins when you place them in the basket.
...except that duplication of currency is a "federal offense". I've heard that gold doesn't show up on metal detectors, so in theory one could keep it in your pocket. A roll of 20 GAE's is a good chunk of change, and is still only $1000 if you have to say "oops, sorry mas'a, forgot about that".

RaccoonRiverRadical | 07-22-2007 11:23 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Sell in US, after moving purchase from Perth Mint.

Raccoon | 07-22-2007 02:37 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? I have traveled several times with considerable amounts of gold and silver from the US to Europe, and I completely agree with everything Skyvike writes. The only control is in the security check, and they lose all interest as soon as you show them that the black spots on their X-ray display are rolls of Krugs.

Dissipate | 07-22-2007 03:01 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Raccoon (Post 671310) I have traveled several times with considerable amounts of gold and silver from the US to Europe, and I completely agree with everything Skyvike writes. The only control is in the security check, and they lose all interest as soon as you show them that the black spots on their X-ray display are rolls of Krugs.
Ok, but what if the U.S. has outlawed gold again because of another depression? Then I think they definitely would notice.

Atahualpa | 07-22-2007 03:16 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671321) Ok, but what if the U.S. has outlawed gold again because of another depression? Then I think they definitely would notice.
You will either become an outlaw and a smuggler or you won't move your goods.

DrillAndFill | 07-22-2007 03:24 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Raccoon (Post 671310) I have traveled several times with considerable amounts of gold and silver from the US to Europe, and I completely agree with everything Skyvike writes.
Good to know: I may be living it Deutschland soon. Thanks.

mtnman | 07-22-2007 03:38 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by EdThePilot (Post 671185) ...except that duplication of currency is a "federal offense". I've heard that gold doesn't show up on metal detectors, so in theory one could keep it in your pocket. A roll of 20 GAE's is a good chunk of change, and is still only $1000 if you have to say "oops, sorry mas'a, forgot about that".
You Heard WRONG! My metal detector (Garrett) Sounds off loud and clear when gold is present!

Raccoon | 07-22-2007 05:44 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671321) Ok, but what if the U.S. has outlawed gold again because of another depression? Then I think they definitely would notice.
Then you were too late.

johnlvs2run | 07-22-2007 07:32 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 671186) Sell in US, after moving purchase from Perth Mint.
How about sell in US, purchase in Perth, then move.

Raccoon | 07-22-2007 08:10 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by skyvike (Post 671506) I walk through them all the time with a five baht 22K gold chain around my neck. It's never set off the alarm.
The same goes for my 1 oz .999 silver lucky coin and my titanium wrist watch. I never bother to remove them since they don't set off the alarm anyway.

GoldWampum | 07-22-2007 08:10 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Here's a pretty simple look at Diamagnetic, paramagnetic, and ferromagnetic qualities. Copper, gold and silver have low magnet quality (diamagnetic). Link

jman | 07-22-2007 08:11 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671081) I have plans for going expat from the U.S. in the future. I don't like where the country has gone and where it is headed. But also, if the shit is about to hit the fan, and I need to just get out quickly, I need to know how to get a significant amount of gold out of the U.S. without being noticed. Obviously, if I have the bullion on me at an airport, the TSA is going to get suspicious. Any ideas?
I have been having similar thoughts, any idea where you plan on heading and why? Damn shame when even a U.S. Soldier is furious at the American Sheeple and Neo-Con pricks that I feel the need to leave.

Dissipate | 07-22-2007 08:21 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by jman (Post 671517) I have been having similar thoughts, any idea where you plan on heading and why? Damn shame when even a U.S. Soldier is furious at the American Sheeple and Neo-Con pricks that I feel the need to leave.
The two places I have been thinking about are Dubai of the UAE and Switzerland. Dubai is fully economically developed and has no income tax. Switzerland has good privacy and you can negotiate your tax rates.

BuckeyeDad | 07-22-2007 09:03 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671527) The two places I have been thinking about are Dubai of the UAE and Switzerland. Dubai is fully economically developed and has no income tax. Switzerland has good privacy and you can negotiate your tax rates.
I have heard it is next to impossible to get into Switzerland. You may be allowed to stay for a period of time, but that is all. They actually enforce immigration laws in that country.

jman | 07-22-2007 11:55 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671527) The two places I have been thinking about are Dubai of the UAE and Switzerland. Dubai is fully economically developed and has no income tax. Switzerland has good privacy and you can negotiate your tax rates.
Yeah the immigration policies are harsh for Switzerland... I have personally been to the UAE ... Abu Dhabi which is 3 hours North of Dubai. I really enjoyed the culture and environment ... it is a truly wealthy country and friendly to travelers. The laws are on the severe side ... for instance drunk in public means you get caned :wink: . Personally at a glance I think it is a great justice system! Don't be a moron and life is good. I knew a few guys there who were government contractors that permanently lived in the middle east or asian countries. (They paid no taxes). When I was there in 05 the exchange rate was awesome ... my $600 shoes for 150 FRNs as an example (I bought a suit). Wish I had the knowledge then to purchase gold while over there. Another thing .. don't listen to people about the middle east .. 90% of them don't have a clue. As a nurse my mother could make 120k a year without any taxes in Dubai ... she won't go on account of her horse addiction.

Raccoon | 07-23-2007 12:47 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671527) ...you can negotiate your tax rates.
I hadn't heard about this so I asked a Swiss friend. At present there are 2-3,000 very high net worth foreigners living in Switzerland that have been given the opportunity to negotiate their annual income tax. They pay about $60,000/year in tax on the average, which is much less than the 30-40% tax they would have paid otherwise.

Antonio | 07-23-2007 12:53 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? http://www.gold.org/pr_archive/html/bars/Tola_04.htm One of the ways to carry gold....

____hoot____ | 07-23-2007 02:45 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Sailboat across the Great Lakes; not much checking. If you want to get real fancy, drill out a storage spot in your lead keel then pour lead over your stash. Better time it for good weather

erocktxmade | 07-23-2007 09:38 AM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Well, I googled if gold were a monetary instrument, which is included in the customs form you sign. I think it says 10,000 in cash and/or monetary instruments. Well this link I provided is for Panama, but other countries may follow the same guidelines. http://www.panamalaw.org/negotiable_...nstrument.html Read the bullion part. So IS gold a monetary instrument? What IS a monetary instrument anyway??

omegaman | 07-27-2007 09:45 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by skyvike (Post 671506) I don't think he meant "metal detectors" (general) cannot detect gold but rather that the airport metal detectors DON'T (because they're not "tuned" to it?). I've observed this myself. I walk through them all the time with a five baht 22K gold chain around my neck. It's never set off the alarm.
In 2004 my trip through airport security was halted and I was forced to produce the 1/4 oz maple I was carrying in my wallet. Interestingly the "naturalized" indo Canadian security woman began to walk away with the coin until I began to make a scene. Airport metal detectors most definitely do detect gold.

Anty Ep | 07-28-2007 11:21 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissipate (Post 671081) I have plans for going expat from the U.S. in the future. I don't like where the country has gone and where it is headed. But also, if the shit is about to hit the fan, and I need to just get out quickly, I need to know how to get a significant amount of gold out of the U.S. without being noticed. Obviously, if I have the bullion on me at an airport, the TSA is going to get suspicious. Any ideas?
running off is what I call that stay and do your duty to your fellow countryman by helping straighten crap out -- dont just think of yourself

johnlvs2run | 07-29-2007 12:15 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Our #1 duty is survival.

Antonio | 07-29-2007 12:26 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Easy,sell gold,buy platinum.A roll of half oz coins is easily a year of survival.

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Au_Ag | 07-29-2007 12:39 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 678409) running off is what I call that
Smart is what I call that Quote:
Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 678409) stay and do your duty to your fellow countryman by helping straighten crap out -- dont just think of yourself
Duty to my fellow countryman who doesn't wanna be helped? Spent his FRN's on Flat panel tv's? looked at me like I was whacko when I suggested he buy gold? Acted like I was idiotic when I suggeste the economy would crash? That fellow countryman? Sorry, he blew his chances with me. If I can live better with my family somewhere else, I'll do it.

Antonio | 07-29-2007 12:48 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Au_Ag (Post 678657) Smart is what I call that Duty to my fellow countryman who doesn't wanna be helped? Spent his FRN's on Flat panel tv's? looked at me like I was whacko when I suggested he buy gold? Acted like I was idiotic when I suggeste the economy would crash? That fellow countryman? Sorry, he blew his chances with me. If I can live better with my family somewhere else, I'll do it.
It`s impossible to argue with your logic here....

Kahlil Gibran | 07-29-2007 01:04 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? This thread proves there is no "Us" anymore.

johnlvs2run | 07-29-2007 02:44 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? We are the people and we have the freedom to live in this country, our country. That we leave it doesn't mean we don't want to be here. It means we are not safe here. I would rather live here but am 100 prepared to go somewhere else if I feel it's a better place for me to live in the meantime.

RiverRat | 07-29-2007 03:08 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? :D There is no US...there are only brain dead sheep and smart individuals who see the consequences of staying in a country turned into a police state. Patriotism can also be construed as blatant stupidity...TPTB are counting on just that when the walls go up and all firearms are confiscated by the liberal politicos...then slam the lid down and make escape impossible by legal avenues. Anyone who gets out in time are probably the lucky ones... The rest of us can expect RED DAWN with our own troops and foreign UN forces hauling J6P off by the millions for corporate slave labor sometime in the near future. At the present rate we are going full blast to that conclusion. Our elected leaders will vote to enforce it...not declare it illegal. I don't include Ron Paul in that group of squirrel brain politicians,but he is one man in a sea of self serving idiots that call themselves politicians for the people. We're doomed....

Keef | 07-29-2007 04:45 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? This is what I'm looking at for leaving the Homeland: http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/7294 And if you want to leave Dodge in a hurry, check out this sail: You Tube
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morganchaser | 07-29-2007 05:43 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? "It is said that when the Nobel prize-winning physicist Niels Bohr fled Denmark during the German occupation of that country in World War II, this peer of Albert Einstein used his knowledge of chemistry to outwit the occupying forces. It seems that the physicist didn�t dare take his gold Nobel prize medal with him when he fled to Sweden, thereafter to America, but he also didn�t want to leave it in Denmark for the occupying forces to help themselves to, so he dissolved the gold medal in Aqua Regia, and left it in a bottle of this exceptionally irritating acid, in his home. After the war, he simply returned to retrieve his bottle of Aqua Regia, reconstituted the gold from itschloride, and had it recast back into its former form of Nobel Prize medal." "A mixture of one part nitric acid with three of hydrochloric acid is called aqua regia (because it dissolved gold, the King of Metals). It is unaffected by air and most reagents."

Raccoon | 07-29-2007 07:02 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? No, it was Bohr's coworker who dissolved the Nobel medals of 2 German scientists in this manner. The 2 Germans Max von Laue and James Franck had left their medals in Bohr's lab to keep them from being confiscated by the nazis. As taking gold out of Germany could be punished with the death penalty, and the Nobel winners names were on the medals, they were in danger when the Germans invaded Denmark. Therefore Bohr and his coworker decided to dissolve their medals. Bohr's own medal was already kept at a Danish museum, where it still can be seen today.

Anty Ep | 07-29-2007 07:04 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by johnlvs2run (Post 678643) Our #1 duty is survival.
bah, you will die anyhow, live with honor not like a fleeing rat

Anty Ep | 07-29-2007 07:08 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? [quote] Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverRat (Post 678755) :D There is no US...there are only brain dead sheep and smart individuals who see the consequences of staying in a country turned into a police state.
well people can find ways to get along even in this society. there are well over a hundred million Americans who are not so different from us, but for a few key insights; what are they supposed to do, take planes to Europe and become Schweissdeutsche again? Our confederation is here, its just out of our control for the time being. Quote:
Anyone who gets out in time are probably the lucky ones...
I know a cat who grew up in Rhodesia. He went to SA. Then UK. Now he he's here because of OPPORTUNITY to use the word of his choice. And he says what he damn well pleases even though he is only a green card holder. DAMN bold man and just the kind of immigrant we really need. If he thinks he can carve out a good existence for his family here so can I. Quote:
The rest of us can expect RED DAWN with our own troops and foreign UN forces hauling J6P off by the millions for corporate slave labor sometime in the near future.
I thought that for a long time and it hasnt happened. I wont hold my breath for Armageddon. We better make our own luck. Quote:
We're doomed
You'll be glad to know that you're totally wrong about that.

RaccoonRiverRadical | 07-29-2007 10:18 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 678888) bah, you will die anyhow, live with honor not like a fleeing rat
Still a classical pagan at heart.

Anty Ep | 07-30-2007 01:02 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 679015) Still a classical pagan at heart.
coming from some people that's as high a compliment as I could get, thanks :coolbeer: I hope I can live up to that.

R MacDonald | 07-30-2007 01:36 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 678409) running off is what I call that stay and do your duty to your fellow countryman by helping straighten crap out -- dont just think of yourself
The safest place to hold a snake is by the head, great point.

johnlvs2run | 07-30-2007 02:43 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 678888) bah, you will die anyhow, live with honor not like a fleeing rat
I don't run the fed, the irs, don't charge you any taxes, no money on your credit cards, am no threat to you, I'm not going to invade your home in the middle of the night or lock you up in a concentration camp. So I think it is not anyone's concern where I live. With that in mind, I would much prefer to live in the U.S. if possible. I have never lived anywhere else. Perhaps if I had traveled around and was familiar with other countries then moving to another would be easier. But I see the whole world as one, where a person should be able to set foot in one country as well as another. Whether I wish to live in one country or another should be my decision, not left up to some secret organization which has nothing to do with serving the citizens of this country or any other one anyway.

Dave Thomas | 07-31-2007 11:18 PM
Re: How to get noticeable amounts of gold out of the U.S.? Quote:
Originally Posted by skyvike (Post 671506) I don't think he meant "metal detectors" (general) cannot detect gold but rather that the airport metal detectors DON'T (because they're not "tuned" to it?). I've observed this myself. I walk through them all the time with a five baht 22K gold chain around my neck. It's never set off the alarm.
There is a word of truth to this to an extent. Alot of MDers have trouble finding gold, because gold shows up with alot of other "crappy" metals. Silver shows up on most "Hobby" metal detectors like a blowtorch. Thats why all those expensive detectors like the high ends (Minelabs, Whites, and Garrets) put special emphasis on discrimination. Now the big walkthroughs and garrett wands are really looking for ferrous and aluminum that doesn't mean they can't open up the resolution in the future to catch more magnetically mundane metals. It's just not what they are looking for now.

latemetal | 08-02-2007 10:00 PM
concho belts http://reviews.ebay.com/SILVER-TURQU...00000000738165 I think I'd try something like this only platinum, palladium, or silver plated gold.:smokin:

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