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inthedark | 10-30-2009 12:09 PM
Historical SHTF's I think a list of historical SHTF situations for study would be great to have for study please list those that you know of Thanks Frank

Fullpower | 10-30-2009 12:45 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Constantinople, 1204 Paris, 1789 Ft Sumpter, 1861 Galveston, 1900 Petersburg, 1917 Hiroshima, 1945 Saigon, 1975 Bangladesh, 1991 AFRICA.... continuous

CajunCoin | 10-30-2009 12:52 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's 1. Fall of France 1940 2. Katrina 3. Fall of the Phillipines 1941-1942 4. Rita 5. Betsy 6. Gustave 7. Fall of Germany 1945 8. Hiroshima/Nagasaki 9. San Francisco Earthquake 1906 10. Mexico City Earthquake

Doge | 10-30-2009 02:46 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's There are actually too many to list. I think that's the point of this whole forum and what we are all getting ready for. It can and will happen anywhere and everywhere at some point.

hypervel | 10-30-2009 03:32 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's I think I'd be careful to discriminate between manmade SHTF and non-manmade. In a natural event-nevermind the chaotic subcurrents, you're "in it together". In manmade- well, let's just say it woulda sucked being Jewish in much of Europe in the 1930's. NOT in it together. In a manmade event it might be wise to prep for a big one-way bug out. You could probably see it coming. In a natural event it seems less sure a bugout is required-just less warning to count on in many cases.

Fullpower | 10-30-2009 03:37 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's As DOGE hinted at above, IF you currently occupy a region of relative peace and prosperity..... ENJOY it to the best of your ability. A thorough examination of the historical record will show that Poverty, Famine, War, Disease, Tyranny and political oppression compete with natural disasters to make life brutal and short for most of humanity. " Have a nice weekend"

philobeddoe | 10-30-2009 03:38 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Maybe it should be distinguisehed between SHTF, and collapse of civilization. In southern france they were taking boulders from old Roman aqueducts to build stone houses. With no empire, it was common for marauders to travel inland upriver and make raids, stealing sons and daughters as slaves.

jc7622 | 10-30-2009 04:04 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Hasn't there been 20-something cases of hyperinflation in the last 50 years? I would even be interested in a list of those countries that I could go research and read about.

Gaillo | 10-30-2009 04:17 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Millions of SHTF's are happening every day... lives ending due to disease, accidents, heart attacks, murders, etc. You can't tell me the S isn't hitting the F for those people! :biggrin: Seriously, though, you really need to focus in on the shape of the SHTF you are thinking is most likely to occur before you can find the best historical case to study.

Fullpower | 10-30-2009 04:19 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Gentleman here has a very good, personal narrative of life in Argentina, during a hyperinflationary collapse. http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2009/03/g...inflation.html

gunDriller | 10-30-2009 05:06 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Quote:
Originally Posted by hypervel (Post 1998998) I think I'd be careful to discriminate between manmade SHTF and non-manmade.
i think one of the more interesting cases will be when another large quake occurs in California. the state does not have the resources to recover, and would need to depend on the US government. then again, do you want to depend on someone whose idea of wealth is to create money electronically. the Northridge quake, a 7.0, i think cost $100 billion to recover from. Mother Nature can dish out an 8.0 quake quite easily. what happens if Calif. gets a large quake after the federal government announces they can't bail out states anymore ? an 8.0 quake with repair bills in the $500 billion range ?

scyth | 10-30-2009 05:30 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Quote:
Originally Posted by gunDriller (Post 1999142) i think one of the more interesting cases will be when another large quake occurs in California. the state does not have the resources to recover, and would need to depend on the US government. then again, do you want to depend on someone whose idea of wealth is to create money electronically. the Northridge quake, a 7.0, i think cost $100 billion to recover from. Mother Nature can dish out an 8.0 quake quite easily. what happens if Calif. gets a large quake after the federal government announces they can't bail out states anymore ? an 8.0 quake with repair bills in the $500 billion range ?
Driller - +1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33499719...ience-science/ I live just a a hair left of the green line about a mile inland From the Strait of Juan de F. scyth

Saul Mine | 10-30-2009 09:19 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's http://darkage2007.blogspot.com/ "Manuscript" link on the right side.

gunDriller | 10-30-2009 10:39 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Quote:
Originally Posted by scyth (Post 1999184) Driller - +1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33499719...ience-science/ I live just a a hair left of the green line about a mile inland From the Strait of Juan de F. scyth
Wow, that's a really nice area. I visited Mount Rainier about a month ago. it's beautiful, but i guess in Seattle you need to be prepared for volcano eruptions and earthquakes. i looked at a Canada government website a few years ago, deep down buried in the website was a blurb about an 8.0+ striking in BC, as in, "well, basically, we expect this to happen any day now. could be tomorrow, could be 30 years." those huge mountains didn't get created without some major earth tremors.

Patriotme | 10-31-2009 09:48 AM
Re: Historical SHTF's Nov. 4th, 2008

VTEEZER | 11-07-2009 09:12 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's Camille & Andrew :bulride:

icq182 | 11-08-2009 01:25 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperin...hyperinflation Just look at some of the most successful eugenicists in history, mao, pol pot, hitler, stalin, mussolini, etc etc etc SHTF surrounds them

S_Goldberg | 11-09-2009 10:50 PM
Re: Historical SHTF's There is an important factor here. NONE of those events listed resulted in total collapse. So many here talk as though there will be no government, but history has shown that this does not happen. The lists presented here testify to that fact.

VTEEZER | 11-10-2009 12:00 AM
Re: Historical SHTF's Quote:
Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 2016815) There is an important factor here. NONE of those events listed resulted in total collapse. So many here talk as though there will be no government, but history has shown that this does not happen. The lists presented here testify to that fact.
There's no Gov't in a Cat 5. There's just you and "Him" and the sound of things coming apart! That's enough SHTF for me! :shine: After a while there's Gov't again!

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