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TaxHaven | 04-27-2008 09:59 PM
Hoarding! Just Do It... Well, recently we've all been reading in the mainstream media about those EVIL speculators and hoarders, buying up all the rice and gasoline at today's low prices...rest assured: they will be the next target of middle-class suburban rage. But isn't there a very fine line between speculation, "hoarding", sensible & prudent investing and survival prep? Hoarding is just buying on sale! Seems to be just common sense to me: nobody ever said my family has to suffer later to be "fair" to those twits who either don't have the money or the sense to stockpile... Well, I'M A HOARDER! How about you?

Mone | 04-27-2008 10:01 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... Not me. NO hoarded food here. NO hoarded silver either. Nothing to see 'cept me & my sexiness. These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along. YouTube - these aren't the droids you're looking for
YouTube - these aren't the droids you're looking for

KASHMAN02 | 04-27-2008 10:19 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... I have a two pack of heinz ketchup and a rooselvelt dime from when I was a kid, I hope that doesnt make me a bad person. Forgot the two pack of Tp.

RiverRat | 04-28-2008 01:04 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... :rolleyes_m: A little off topic,but maybe not. The word hoarding has different definitions as to quantity of an item one buys and stores for various reasons. I find it strange that if a person buys 1,000 shares of stock he's considered an investor...but,if his neighbor buys 1,000 cans of tuna he's considered a filthy hoarder and a certified degenerate. I don't judge my life,or honestly care about politically correct opinions of what or how much of anything I buy or store. My parents grew up during the Great Depression with an extreme paranoid fear of the hunger and deprivation they experienced as part of a large family.Fighting with brothers and sisters on a daily basis over food portions was just standard procedure in both families. As a kid,I remember we normally stocked enough groceries and other necessities to last for up to three years without ever visiting a retail store. Not a joke...my dad considered 500 quarts of green beans or maybe 500 quarts of tomatoes a minimum quantity of home canned vegetables all families should have in reserve should another depression occur in his lifetime. Multiply 500 quarts each by two dozen staple vegetables and another dozen or so fruits and you begin to get an idea of what our basement looked like year round. Shelves stacked to the ceiling with home canned vegetables,jellies,etc and that's not including a big root cellar with a ton of potatoes,carrots,onions,beets,etc thrown in on top of the canned goods. Personally I consider a couple hundred cans of Spam and tuna about normal for any family to store. Nope,hoarding is in the eye of the beholder and I doubt any of us were raised in similar environments when we were kids. Whomever dies of old age with the most food wins... :D:D:D

squexx | 04-28-2008 04:06 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... There's a difference between hoarding and stockpiling. One of the hoarders in the Philip's had thousands of bags stored.

TechGuy | 04-28-2008 08:09 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... You forgot ammo.

Twisted Avatar | 04-28-2008 08:09 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverRat (Post 1081170) :rolleyes_m: A little off topic,but maybe not. The word hoarding has different definitions as to quantity of an item one buys and stores for various reasons. I find it strange that if a person buys 1,000 shares of stock he's considered an investor...but,if his neighbor buys 1,000 cans of tuna he's considered a filthy hoarder and a certified degenerate. I don't judge my life,or honestly care about politically correct opinions of what or how much of anything I buy or store. My parents grew up during the Great Depression with an extreme paranoid fear of the hunger and deprivation they experienced as part of a large family.Fighting with brothers and sisters on a daily basis over food portions was just standard procedure in both families. As a kid,I remember we normally stocked enough groceries and other necessities to last for up to three years without ever visiting a retail store. Not a joke...my dad considered 500 quarts of green beans or maybe 500 quarts of tomatoes a minimum quantity of home canned vegetables all families should have in reserve should another depression occur in his lifetime. Multiply 500 quarts each by two dozen staple vegetables and another dozen or so fruits and you begin to get an idea of what our basement looked like year round. Shelves stacked to the ceiling with home canned vegetables,jellies,etc and that's not including a big root cellar with a ton of potatoes,carrots,onions,beets,etc thrown in on top of the canned goods. Personally I consider a couple hundred cans of Spam and tuna about normal for any family to store. Nope,hoarding is in the eye of the beholder and I doubt any of us were raised in similar environments when we were kids. Whomever dies of old age with the most food wins... :D:D:D
There is world of diferncence between toilet paper and real tangibles.... and J6P is going to get a AWESOME lesson one just what that means in the next 18-24 months. T

Avalon | 04-28-2008 09:22 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... Hoarding is a loaded subject for me because my Mother was a hoarder and it really disturbed me. I went the other way and am sort of a neat freak. I hate junk.. Plies of stuff make me crazy. My family has learned to keep things out of my reach because I go through the house like a white tornado. I have no problem with stocking food or supplies if its done in a organized manner.

TaxHaven | 04-28-2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1081359) You forgot ammo.
Yeah, that one occurred to me just as I pressed the button... Oh, and what's wrong with thousands of bags of whatever-it-was? How many shares of Gold Fields or Harmony do I NEED? And how many are sheer speculation? Is Roman Abramovich's forty-million-pound-sterling house to be considered "hoarding"? (He doesn't 'need' that much space...) While we're on it, how many Double Eagles do I need? Is one - or two -or three - considered 'necessary'? So all the others are pure greed, making me a "Filthy Hoarding Beggar"?:D

Dave | 04-28-2008 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1081359) You forgot ammo.
:D - I thought the same thing!

jrog100 | 04-28-2008 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TaxHaven (Post 1081004) Well, recently we've all been reading in the mainstream media about those EVIL speculators and hoarders, buying up all the rice and gasoline at today's low prices...rest assured: they will be the next target of middle-class suburban rage. But isn't there a very fine line between speculation, "hoarding", sensible & prudent investing and survival prep? Hoarding is just buying on sale! Seems to be just common sense to me: nobody ever said my family has to suffer later to be "fair" to those twits who either don't have the money or the sense to stockpile... Well, I'M A HOARDER! How about you?
How are you able to hoard living in China? I mean, doesn't the gov frown on that sort of thing over there?

Lt Dan | 04-28-2008 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 1081359) You forgot ammo.
I voted late last night and didn't think about that until just now when I opened the thread and noticed ammo wasn't on the list. But then I thought yes it is! It's right up there on the top, Precious metals! :clap2: My Dad and Mom grew up during the great depression too, and they did hoard food, mostly home canned, but they also had a huge freezer packed full by winter with meat, and garden stuff. That might be why it only seems natural to me to put up food for the future.

Jonas Parker | 04-28-2008 01:16 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... "Hoarding" is generally defined as the accumulation of goods for later sale at a profit as those goods become more scarce. I'm not a hoarder. My wife and I don't have anything that we won't eat, drink, shoot, or spend ourselves...

Argentsum | 04-28-2008 02:58 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... If I do it, I'm stockpiling.:D If other people do it, they are hoarding.:rant:

buff01 | 04-28-2008 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mone (Post 1081006) Not me. NO hoarded food here. NO hoarded silver either. Nothing to see 'cept me & my sexiness. These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along.
HAHAHAHAH!!! thanks, I needed a laugh :clap2::clap2:

William Morgan | 04-28-2008 08:08 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... I hoard duct tape and plastic sheeting. Tom Ridge and now Michael Chertoff told me it is "patriotic."

Silver Bullet | 04-28-2008 10:01 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... I've always made the distinction that stockpiling is preparation as the result of foresight. Hoarding is what happens after a crisis hits. I stockpiled hundreds of pounds of rice last year. I hoarded another bag today.

TaxHaven | 04-29-2008 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jrog100 (Post 1081485) How are you able to hoard living in China? I mean, doesn't the gov frown on that sort of thing over there?
China? CHINA? Taiwan is definitely not (yet?) China...in fact, we're a lot free-er here than you in the States. Here, it is possible to fly under the radar, avoid all kinds of sales taxes, etc., in numerous small ways. Property tax on our house is something like US$200/year...it is still possible to just squat down on the streetside here and sell stuff, more or less freely...

Squirrel Bait | 04-29-2008 12:51 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... Hoarding!!! It seems to me that a Government can define hoarding anyway they want. I know, sounds ludicrous!!!!!! sb

ProblemSolver | 04-29-2008 09:26 AM
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Hoarding!!! It seems to me that a Government can define hoarding anyway they want. I know, sounds ludicrous!!!!!!
That's one of the dangers of a lot of people knowing you have quite a bit of food, etc. stored. If a lot of people are starving, and the gub'mint decides to, they can declare any kind of food storage hoarding, come in, take all your carefully planned preps, and divide it among the starving masses (or at least the starving politicians), so that, what was enough for your family to eat for a year, is now enough for everybody to eat, for a couple days. This is an extreme circumstance, but it could happen, more likely in a large city, but anywhere is susceptible. So, yes, I do hoard ammo as well.

Twisted Avatar | 04-29-2008 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ProblemSolver (Post 1082731) That's one of the dangers of a lot of people knowing you have quite a bit of food, etc. stored. If a lot of people are starving, and the gub'mint decides to, they can declare any kind of food storage hoarding, come in, take all your carefully planned preps, and divide it among the starving masses (or at least the starving politicians), so that, what was enough for your family to eat for a year, is now enough for everybody to eat, for a couple days. This is an extreme circumstance, but it could happen, more likely in a large city, but anywhere is susceptible. So, yes, I do hoard ammo as well.
That is my worst nightmare........ That is why for the most part I keep mum when I am out among the locals. cause when people are starving(struggling) they will have a amazing clarity to remeber what you said 9.5 months ago. couple that with the gubbermint painting a giant target on your back as hoader and you have all the makings of a monster movie. KYPS (keep ya piehole shut) T

nickelless | 05-03-2008 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1082747) That is my worst nightmare........ That is why for the most part I keep mum when I am out among the locals. cause when people are starving(struggling) they will have a amazing clarity to remeber what you said 9.5 months ago. couple that with the gubbermint painting a giant target on your back as hoader and a and you have all the makings of a monster movie. KYPS (keep ya piehole shut) T
And be sure to hide your food and other items where people will least expect to find it. Nobody is going to look in the cat litter bag, under the pile of what look like dirty clothes or back in the back corner of the basement at the bottom of a stack of boxes marked "Tampax."

pw3uk | 05-03-2008 02:55 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... But if you thought of places where 'nobody will look', I'm sure other people will too and will look there! However, the word TAMPAX will ward off any male snooper!

Twisted Avatar | 05-11-2008 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nickelless (Post 1088627) And be sure to hide your food and other items where people will least expect to find it. Nobody is going to look in the cat litter bag, under the pile of what look like dirty clothes or back in the back corner of the basement at the bottom of a stack of boxes marked "Tampax."
+1 Best place to hide something is in the most inconspicuous of places.... TAMPAX to men is like garlic to Dracula.:wink: T

Conk | 05-12-2008 11:58 AM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... You forgot porn. Variety is key. Old fashioned paper magazines for when the power goes out too. :D Just kidding, I never look at the stuff over 5 times a week. But seriously, in times of crisis I'd be more interested in getting back to the porn.

Caligula | 05-12-2008 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverRat (Post 1081170) I find it strange that if a person buys 1,000 shares of stock he's considered an investor...but,if his neighbor buys 1,000 cans of tuna he's considered a filthy hoarder and a certified degenerate.
I agree with TA that this is a VERY insightful statement. ('bout time this RiverRat character said something worth a damn....:tongue_ma:)

Squirrel Bait | 05-12-2008 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1099016) +1 Best place to hide something is in the most inconspicuous of places.... TAMPAX to men is like garlic to Dracula.:wink: T
I don't know. After having to live with women who have no feminine products for 6 months, I think most men would scarf those up in a heartbeat. "Honey, look what I found for ya". s

Worldmariner | 05-12-2008 06:01 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1082747) That is my worst nightmare........ That is why for the most part I keep mum when I am out among the locals. cause when people are starving(struggling) they will have a amazing clarity to remeber what you said 9.5 months ago. couple that with the gubbermint painting a giant target on your back as hoader and you have all the makings of a monster movie. KYPS (keep ya piehole shut) T
YUP! My friends thought I was whacked last year when I brought it up a few times, but now, I KMPS!

Twisted Avatar | 05-14-2008 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Worldmariner (Post 1100578) YUP! My friends thought I was whacked last year when I brought it up a few times, but now, I KMPS!
It is sad......... There is a play written by shakspere Odipus Rex..... when the hero kills his father and marries his mother... The character I found most enjoyable is the Soothsayer Teresias he is a blind prophet that can see the future but he has been cursed by the Gods that NO ONE WILL BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE SPEAKS That is what be are....... Blind oracles. But in the coming season MANY will remeber our words. It wont do much good when they are lobotomized zombie sheeps interred at the FEMA camps though. T

Squirrel Bait | 05-15-2008 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1103494) It is sad......... There is a play written by shakspere Odipus Rex..... when the hero kills his father and marries his mother... The character I found most enjoyable is the Soothsayer Teresias he is a blind prophet that can see the future but he has been cursed by the Gods that NO ONE WILL BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE SPEAKS That is what be are....... Blind oracles. But in the coming season MANY will remeber our words. It wont do much good when they are lobotomized zombie sheeps interred at the FEMA camps though. T
Hey!!, I'm not a blind oracle, I'm a hoarder, and proud of it. Hoarding is good for the soul. Especially when your soul is hungry. It's the sheeple who are blind. Runnin' around, not knowing why. Probably not caring. Saying feed me, feed me, the world is such a wonderful place., feed me, feed me...... Come to think of it you're not a blind oracle either. You rock dude!!!!! We all rock, cause we're hoarders!!!!!!!! >>>>>sponsered by "Hoarders Anonymous" those who are trying to quit!!<<< s ps. somethimes I wonder about my sanity

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Avalon | 05-15-2008 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1103935) Hey!!, I'm not a blind oracle, I'm a hoarder, and proud of it. Hoarding is good for the soul. Especially when your soul is hungry. It's the sheeple who are blind. Runnin' around, not knowing why. Probably not caring. Saying feed me, feed me, the world is such a wonderful place., feed me, feed me...... Come to think of it you're not a blind oracle either. You rock dude!!!!! We all rock, cause we're hoarders!!!!!!!! >>>>>sponsored by "Hoarders Anonymous" those who are trying to quit!!<<< s ps. sometimes I wonder about my sanity
I am trying to figure out how an anti-hoarder like myself ended up here. :confused_ma:

Squirrel Bait | 05-15-2008 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Avalon (Post 1104204) I am trying to figure out how an anti-hoarder like myself ended up here. :confused_ma:
Ah, you're just listening to that inner voice. Following your intuition. There will once again be a time when not to prepare, just as there will be a time to use what we have prepared. For what it's worth on my last three trips I have met people who are, well, spiritual or intuitive. You fall into that category. Anyway we had interesting conversations. But it's very rare for me to meet individuals like that on three trips in a row. And since I don't believe in coincidences something must be going on. s

Avalon | 05-15-2008 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1104403) Ah, you're just listening to that inner voice. Following your intuition. There will once again be a time when not to prepare, just as there will be a time to use what we have prepared. For what it's worth on my last three trips I have met people who are, well, spiritual or intuitive. You fall into that category. Anyway we had interesting conversations. But it's very rare for me to meet individuals like that on three trips in a row. And since I don't believe in coincidences something must be going on. s
SB, everyones spidey senses are tingling. I think as things progress you are going to see more of a polarization of good and evil. You will see people either sucked farther into the system of brainwashing or breaking free of the box. The middle ground will fade. I am curious about the people you are meting though. What are they feeling and saying? I know more then a few people reading these threads think we are not playing with a full deck. I can only say that SOMEHTING is brewing in the cosmos. Maybe we have it wrong and we are reacting in the only way we know how. At least we are doing something though.

Twisted Avatar | 05-15-2008 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Avalon (Post 1104422) SB, everyones spidey senses are tingling. I think as things progress you are going to see more of a polarization of good and evil. You will see people either sucked farther into the system of brainwashing or breaking free of the box. The middle ground will fade. I am curious about the people you are meting though. What are they feeling and saying? I know more then a few people reading these threads think we are not playing with a full deck. I can only say that SOMEHTING is brewing in the cosmos. Maybe we have it wrong and we are reacting in the only way we know how. At least we are doing something though.
Bingo! And if we go down we went down swinging .........which is more than 93% that will just point there dam finger and balk about us "failing" We did the best we could given the options..........what is your excuse CHUMP? T

Worldmariner | 05-16-2008 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by squexx (Post 1081260) There's a difference between hoarding and stockpiling. One of the hoarders in the Philip's had thousands of bags stored.
"Hoarding" is such an... UGLY word! "Stockpiling" has a much nicer ring to it... Kind of like the ring of a silver coin on a glass table! :D

Worldmariner | 05-16-2008 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1100100) I don't know. After having to live with women who have no feminine products for 6 months, I think most men would scarf those up in a heartbeat. "Honey, look what I found for ya". s
Scarf them up? Heck, they will be at the TOP of the search list, with food and ammo being the next two items! *laugh*

nub | 05-22-2008 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Worldmariner (Post 1106697) Scarf them up? Heck, they will be at the TOP of the search list, with food and ammo being the next two items! *laugh*
Let's not forget they're great for cleaning the barrel of a shotgun also.

MystryBox | 06-03-2008 06:28 PM
Re: Hoarding! Just Do It... Where is the poll choice for bellybutton lint? Soon when I have enough I will rule the world!

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