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R MacDonald | 07-01-2007 04:03 PM
> "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land http://goldismoney.info/forums/images/icons/icon4.gif WARNING: Wild haired free thinking ahead! The wife and I have been racking our brains today and have come up with a very interesting scenario. What if we were to mine for minerals using the tools of vegetation to extract them? How about filing a mining claim to use that land for that purpose? We have been so greedy to only go for the minerals that we deem "precious", that we have forgotten all about the ones that are REALLY precious... the LIFE GIVING ones. Think about it. Here is the list of minerals that vegetables extract from the soil: Quote:
> <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" align="center" border="1" bordercolor="#c9edeb" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="middle"><td width="178">Vegetable </td> <td>Amount </td> <td>Minerals Contained (in descending order) </td> <td>Vitamins Contained (in descending order) </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Artichoke <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co.../artichoke.jpg </center> </td> <td>One medium cooked with no added salt has 4.2 grams protein and 6.5 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 425 mg Phosphorus - 103 mg Magnesium - 72 mg Calcium - 54 mg Also contains small amounts of selenium, iron, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin C - 12 mg Niacin - 1.2 mg Pantothenic Acid - .5 mg Folate - 61.2 mcg Vitamin A - 212 IU Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Asparagus <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co.../asparagus.jpg </center> </td> <td>Half cup (about 4 spears) cooked with no added salt contains over 2 grams of protein and almost 1.5 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 144 mg Phosphorus - 48.5 mg Calcium - 18 mg Sodium - 10 mg Magnesium - 9 mg Also contains small amounts of selenium, iron, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 485 IU Vitamin C - 9.7 mg Niacin - .974 mg Folate - 131 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Avocado </td> <td colspan="3">Strictly speaking, an Avocado is a fruit - see the fruit chart </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Broccoli <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...s/broccoli.jpg </center> </td> <td>Half cup cooked with no added salt contains 2.3 grams protein and 2.3 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 228 mg Phosphorus - 46 mg Calcium - 36 mg Sodium - 28 mg Magnesium - 18.7 mg Iron - .65 mg Vitamin K - 110 mcg Also contains small amounts of selenium, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 1083 IU Vitamin C - 58 mg Niacin - .45 mg Pantothenic Acid - .4 mg Folate - 39 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Carrots <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/images/carrot.jpg </center> </td> <td>Half cup cooked with no added salt contains .85 grams protein and 2.6 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 177 mg Sodium - 51.5 mg Calcium - 24 mg Phosphorus - 23.4 mg Magnesium - 10 mg Iron - .48 mg Also contains small amounts of selenium, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 19,152 IU Vitamin C - 1.8 mg Niacin - .4 mg Folate - 11 mcg Pantothenic Acid - .2 mg Vitamin B6 - .2 mg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Cauliflower <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...auliflower.jpg </center> </td> <td>Half cup cooked with no added salt contains 1.1 grams protein and 1.7 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 88 mg Phosphorus - 19.8 mg Calcium - 9.9 mg Sodium - 9.3 mg Magnesium - 5.6 mg Also contains small amounts of selenium, iron, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin C - 27.5 mg Vitamin A - 1.5 IU Pantothenic Acid - .3 mg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Corn <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/images/corn.jpg </center> </td> <td>One ear, cooked with no salt contains 2.6 grams protein and 2.1 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 191.7 mg Phosphorus - 79.3 mg Magnesium - 24.6 mg Sodium - 13 mg Calcium - 1.5 mg selenium - .6 mg Iron - .5 mg Zinc - .4 mg Also contains small amounts of manganese and copper. </td> <td>Vitamin C - 4.8 mg Vitamin A - 167 IU Niacin - 1.2 mg Folate - 27.3 mcg Pantothenic Acid - .68 mg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Cucumber <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...s/cucumber.jpg </center> </td> <td>Half a cup of sliced cucumber with skins contains .36 grams protein and .42 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 74.9 mg Phosphorus - 1.4 mg Magnesium - 5.7 mg Sodium - 1 mg Calcium - 7.3 mg Also contains small amounts of selenium, iron, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin C - 2.6 mg Vitamin A - 111.8 IU Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Green Pepper <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...reenpepper.jpg </center> </td> <td>One small raw pepper contains .66 grams protein and 1.3 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 131 mg Phosphorus - 14 mg Magnesium - 7.4mg Calcium - 6.7 mg Sodium - 1.48 mg Also contains small amounts of selenium, iron, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 467.7i u Vitamin C - 66 mg Niacin - .4 mg Folate - 6.8 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Kale <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/images/kale.jpg </center> </td> <td>One cup of cooked kale with no added salt contains 2.5 grams protein and 2.6 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 296.4 mg Phosphorus - 36.4 mg Magnesium - 23.4 mg Calcium - 32 mg Sodium - 29.9 mg Iron - 1.2 mg Manganese - .5 mg Selenium - 1.2 mg Vitamin K - 1062 mcg Also contains small amounts of copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 9,620 IU Vitamin C - 53.3 mg Niacin - .6 mg Folate - 17 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Lima Beans <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co.../limabeans.jpg </center> </td> <td>One cup of cooked large lima beans with no added salt contains 14.7 grams protein and 13.2 grams fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 955 mg Phosphorus - 208.7 mg Magnesium - 8.8 mg Calcium - 32 mg Selenium - 8.5 mg Iron - 4.5 mg Sodium - 3.8 mg Zinc - 1.8 mg Manganese - .8 mg copper - .44 mg </td> <td>Pantothenic Acid - .8 mg Niacin - .8 mg Folate - 156 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Mushroom <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...s/mushroom.jpg </center> </td> <td>Half a cup of raw mushrooms contains 1.0 grams of protein and .42 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 129.5 mg Phosphorus - 36.4 mg Magnesium - 3.5 mg Selenium - 3 mg Calcium - 1.8 mg Sodium - 1.4 mg Iron - .36 mg Also contains small amounts of manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin D - 26.6 IU Niacin - 1.4 mg Vitamin C - .8 mg Pantothenic Acid - .5 mg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Onions <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/images/onion.jpg </center> </td> <td>One small onion cooked without salt contains .8 grams protein and 1.3 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 110 mg Phosphorus - 23.1 mg Calcium - 14 mg Magnesium - 7 mg Sodium - 2.1 mg Selenium - .42 mg Also contains small amounts of iron, manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin C - 4.5 mg Folate - 9 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Peas <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...s/snowpeas.jpg </center> </td> <td>One cup of boiled peas with no salt added contains 8.58 grams of protein and 8.8 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 433.6 mg Phosphorus - 187.2 mg Magnesium - 62.4 mg Calcium - 43.2 mg Sodium - 4.8 mg Selenium - 3.0 mg Iron - 2.5 mg Zinc - 1.9 mg Manganese - .8 mg Also contains small amount of copper. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 955.2iu Vitamin C - 22.72 mg Niacin - 3.23 mg Folate - 100.8 mcg Vitamin B1 (thiamine) - .41 mg Vitamin B6 - .35 mg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Potatoes <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/images/potato.jpg </center> </td> <td>One medium baked potato without salt contains 3.0 grams of protein and 2.3 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 610 mg Phosphorus - 78 mg Magnesium - 39 mg Calcium - 7.8 mg Sodium - 7.8 mg Iron - .55 mg Selenium - .46 mg Zinc - .45 mg Also contains small amounts of manganese and copper. </td> <td>Vitamin C - 20 mg Niacin - 2.18 mg Pantothenic Acid - .9 mg Vitamin B6 - .5 mg Folate - 14 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Spinach <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...es/spinach.jpg </center> </td> <td>One cup of raw spinach contains .86 grams of protein and .81 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 167.4 mg Phosphorus - 14.7 mg Magnesium - 23.7 mg Calcium - 29.7 mg Sodium - 23.7 mg Iron - .81 mg Selenium - .3 mg - Vitamin K - 145 mcg Also contains small amounts of manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 2014.5 mg Vitamin C - 8.43 mg Folate - 58.2 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Squash, Summer <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...s/zucchini.jpg </center> </td> <td>One cup of sliced summer squash, baked with no added salt contains 1.65 grams of protein and 2.5 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 345.6 mg Phosphorus - 7.2 mg Magnesium - 43.2 mg Calcium - 48.6 mg Sodium - 1.8 mg Iron - .65 mg Manganese - .38 mg Selenium - .36 mg Zinc - .7 mg Also contains small amount of copper. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 516.6 mg Vitamin C - 9.9 mg Niacin - .92 mg Folate - 36 mcg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Squash, Winter <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co.../squashwin.jpg </center> </td> <td>One cup of cubed winter squash, baked with no added salt contains 1.02 grams of protein and 2.07 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 181.3 mg Phosphorus - 21.7 mg Magnesium - 17.0 mg Calcium - 32.5 mg Sodium - 27.9 mg Iron - .52 mg Selenium - .46 mg Also contains small amounts of manganese, copper and zinc. </td> <td>Vitamin A - 17.5 mg Vitamin C - 5.4 mg Niacin - 1.25 mg Folate - 57.4 mcg Pantothenic Acid - .55 mg Contains some other vitamins in small amounts. </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> Sweet Potatoes <center> http://www.healthalternatives2000.co...weetpotato.jpg </center> </td> <td>One medium sweet potato baked in its skin contains 1.96 grams of protein and 3.42 grams of fiber. </td> <td>Potassium - 273 mg Phosphorus - 29.5 mg Magnesium - 13.5 mg Calcium - 6.2 mg Sodium - 11.0 mg Iron - .55 mg Selenium - .5 mg Manganese - .6 mg Zinc - .3 mg Also contains small amount of copper. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Puts a whole new spin on those government mining claims doesn't it? How big of a garden could you grow on a 20 acre mining claim, and how could the government dispute it? They would have to say that the minerals are not extracted from the ground. No, we are not using a dredge to extract, but a plant. Thoughts?

mtnman | 07-01-2007 04:33 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land What you're planning makes sense but remember your dealing with Uncle Sam. He doesn't understand sensible ideas!

R MacDonald | 07-01-2007 05:21 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnman (Post 651540) What you're planning makes sense but remember your dealing with Uncle Sam. He doesn't understand sensible ideas!
Yeah, but is there a "law" that says you cannot eat your PMs? :s9:

BeeYourself | 07-01-2007 06:05 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Fantastic thinking! Now has anyone tried this?

R MacDonald | 07-01-2007 06:39 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeYourself (Post 651596) Fantastic thinking! Now has anyone tried this?
Betcha when they wrote the 'laws', they weren't thinking about the edible minerals... their loss. "What garden.... We're mining zinc, copper, and magnesium." :coolbeer:

RealJack | 07-01-2007 06:40 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land For all the veggies I've eaten in my lifetime, my entire ass aughta be pure copper, buy now [sic]...:s9:

Unclad Lad | 07-04-2007 02:22 AM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Interesting law interpretation... Here's the biggest practical problem: wild animals aren't going to eat your ore, whereas any vegetables you grow will be a magnet for them. After all, you're talking about a garden patch a distance away from where you live, right? You certainly aren't talking about your own property--you would have purchased the mineral rights as well as the topsoil when you paid for it. You did purchase the mineral (and water) right, didn't you?

R MacDonald | 07-04-2007 05:14 AM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 653671) Interesting law interpretation... Here's the biggest practical problem: wild animals aren't going to eat your ore, whereas any vegetables you grow will be a magnet for them. After all, you're talking about a garden patch a distance away from where you live, right? You certainly aren't talking about your own property--you would have purchased the mineral rights as well as the topsoil when you paid for it. You did purchase the mineral (and water) right, didn't you?
I was referring to mining claims only. Active mining = extraction of minerals. You can legally live on it as long as you are actively "mining". :wink:

R MacDonald | 07-04-2007 02:17 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Mining Claim FAQ: http://www.homestead.com/theclaimpos...ClaimInfo.html

MAGNES | 07-04-2007 05:09 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land That a good website you found there. I am going to adjust my buying now accordingly. And planting if I can.

johnlvs2run | 08-21-2007 08:04 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Excellent idea! Quote:
Originally Posted by R MacDonald (Post 651565) Yeah, but is there a "law" that says you cannot eat your PMs? :s9:
Sounds good to me, then give the proceeds to the Fed. :wink: Keep us posted. :)

money matters | 08-21-2007 08:43 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Looks like peas, legumes and beans are the "richest vein" you could tap. I would look into french intensive gardening and maybe hydroponics for leafy veges; and do so on my own property. Might be able to "mine" some great mulch and compost material though from federal lands. Your county landfill might also be a place to look, if they have an organic material (trees etc) disposal area.

Bill | 08-22-2007 01:09 PM
Re: "Mining" for survival... Living and growing your garden on 'Government' land Don 't forget the gold: Field horsetail may accumulate more gold than any other plant. Up to 4� ounces of gold per ton of fresh plant material has been recovered. Mining engineers consider field horsetail an indicator species of gold, but not a viable commercial source. http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/weed...cord.asp?id=20

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