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damoc | 07-07-2009 09:37 PM
what about nevada? interested in nevada what are gun laws like compared to california? is there any smog testing done for vehicals like in california? what is the aproximate vehical liscense fee for say a ford f250 or something similar?

Bx3 | 07-07-2009 09:48 PM
Re: what about nevada? Life is still good in Nevada. The winds of change from Kali are blowing stronger by the year however. Someday the cancer will spread everywhere.:bawling:

Fermentation | 07-07-2009 10:43 PM
Re: what about nevada? Anyone moving or living in Nevada is a fool in my opinion. Anywhere in the southwest for that matter. Maybe a possible exception are high mountains of New mexico, and that's a big maybe. There will be huge water problems and energy problems, particularly around Peak oil. Who will be able to provide all the air conditioning in diminishing energy world? Not too mention proximity with Mexico and the potential for serious conflict in a post industrial world. i wouldn't take free land anywhere in the Southwest and especially Nevada of Phoenix. http://www.kunstler.com/excerpt_lasvegas.html

SAUM | 07-07-2009 11:02 PM
Re: what about nevada? Jarbidge, NV is the most isolated town in the lower 48. Look it up. most of the rest of it has been over run by Californians.

crazychicken | 07-07-2009 11:23 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by damoc (Post 1806133) interested in nevada what are gun laws like compared to california? is there any smog testing done for vehicals like in california? what is the aproximate vehical liscense fee for say a ford f250 or something similar?
We just moved our whole operation from the East to Nevada. Been in operation out here for the last six years. Finally found a place suitable for the family. Bought 3,000 acres deeded land with 2,982 acre feet of water rights and 50,000 acres of dedicated BLM grazing land. Gun laws--not in the least bit draconian--not at all. Vehicle registrations-just did a transfer NY to Nevada $165,000 Sundowner Horse trailer with extensive living quarters. 2008 cost me $785 for the transfer and specialy plates. My 2008 F-350 4wd cost $290. I just spent a whole bunch of money shipping nine semi loads of hosehold, horse and equipment 2,734 miles to be here. Pretty good guess we are where we want to be. CC

Unclad Lad | 07-08-2009 11:21 AM
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Anyone moving or living in Nevada is a fool in my opinion. Anywhere in the southwest for that matter. Maybe a possible exception are high mountains of New mexico, and that's a big maybe. There will be huge water problems and energy problems, particularly around Peak oil. Who will be able to provide all the air conditioning in diminishing energy world? Not too mention proximity with Mexico and the potential for serious conflict in a post industrial world i wouldn't take free land anywhere in the Southwest and especially Nevada of Phoenix.
Translation: Stay the hell away, you Commies!!!!!! Vegas/Henderson is certainly not a place to escape the fall. Reno/Sparks isn't good, either. Otherwise, the northern third of the state has a great many opportunities for sheltering in place.

Darkside | 07-08-2009 11:29 AM
Re: what about nevada? Nevada is a wonderful place ... if you like growing additional limbs and having green glowing skin! :shine:

LA Refugee | 07-08-2009 12:50 PM
Re: what about nevada? Nevada has more rules and regulations than you can ever hope to know. You have to have a work card to hold most of the jobs. That includes everything from working in a casino, to selling cars. I have been run thru the FBI 9 times for various things. And every time it costs more. Permits and licenses for everything! Just because there is gambling and whores doesn't make it free. This morning I read an article that said Nevada has more illegals working per capita than any other state. So this state is going broke from supporting wetbacks and their tacos, too.

damoc | 07-08-2009 01:55 PM
Re: what about nevada? i have just been seeing huge pieces of land seemingly very cheap obvious with water challenges and power but 640 acres for less than half the cost of my 10 here in california. seems very attractive not near vegas or reno and california has plenty of its own water and energy problems which are only likely to get worse Darkside what means your coment about glowing green does that mean NV has been used for nuclear testing or that it has some targets which could leave it glowing?

Ag_man | 07-08-2009 02:24 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by damoc (Post 1807209) Darkside what means your coment about glowing green does that mean NV has been used for nuclear testing or that it has some targets which could leave it glowing?
Well, there is the issue of ~900 nuclear tests at the Nevada Test Site, the last one was performed around 1991. Most were underground tests, nothing above ground since 1963.

tulsamal | 07-09-2009 11:02 AM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by damoc (Post 1807209) obvious with water challenges and power but 640 acres for less than half the cost of my 10 here in california. seems very attractive
But just how useful is that land in its natural state? You can buy land for $500 an acre in rural Oklahoma that has lots of trees and natural water on it. Land that can be ranched or farmed. It goes up to more like $1000 an acre as you get closer to the major metro areas but regular people can still afford to buy 20-40 acres. Rural areas of Arkansas and Missouri are the same way. Gregg

Gaillo | 07-09-2009 03:21 PM
Re: what about nevada? Nevada has the HIGHEST percentage of federally owned land of ALL the states. Over 3/4 of the state, if I remember correctly. This could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

damoc | 07-09-2009 03:48 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by tulsamal (Post 1808740) But just how useful is that land in its natural state? You can buy land for $500 an acre in rural Oklahoma that has lots of trees and natural water on it. Land that can be ranched or farmed. It goes up to more like $1000 an acre as you get closer to the major metro areas but regular people can still afford to buy 20-40 acres. Rural areas of Arkansas and Missouri are the same way. Gregg
the land was fair to good for what i do where i am is better but those huge pieces of land are tempting. i know there is better places than california or nevada but being close to california is important for family and business and what i was looking at in nevada was only a few hours from where i am now. im not ready to bunker down just yet.

MagpieFairy | 07-09-2009 04:44 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaillo (Post 1809205) Nevada has the HIGHEST percentage of federally owned land of ALL the states. Over 3/4 of the state, if I remember correctly. This could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how you look at it.
A good deal of that is inhabitable desert, like the Black Rock Desert which is BLM land and a huge section of the state.

damoc | 07-09-2009 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MagpieFairy (Post 1809370) A good deal of that is inhabitable desert, like the Black Rock Desert which is BLM land and a huge section of the state.
just checking do you mean uninhabital? almost everywhere is uninhabital (in the numbers we inhabit it)without cheap energy and technology. but almost every place on earth had aboriginal inhabtants who learned to survive/thrive in climates and topography that i would term hellish. australian outback aboriginal,kallahari bushman,eskimo etc the knowledge we have now allows humans to thrive in areas that previously where bareley inhabitable california is a prime example. to me growing up in tropical australia its a bloody desert.without the water from the colorado and northern california and oregon i think who would live here? and yet its one of the biggest producers of food in the world

Shorty_Harris | 07-09-2009 05:30 PM
Re: what about nevada? Just Moved from just outside of Las Vegas Nevada (Pahrump) to the farm land of N.Central Ohio. I would encourage the move as long as you stay away from So. NV. its a shit hole. tooo damn many asshats from Cali. They leave so-cal for NV and the first thing they do when they get to Vegas is try their damnedest to make it just as bad as where they just came from. Tonopah (W.Central) is better, but still high desert and still very dry. Reno is also a shit hole for the same reason as Vegas. Both Vegas and Reno are over ran with Illegals. As for smogging your Vehicles, the only places that require testing is Clark Co.(L.V) and Washoe Co (Reno) . If I was to go back, which I am considering, It would Definitely be N.E, or N.Central..I.E Winnemucca, Elko, and to a lesser extent Ely or some surrounding areas. Also Been considering Wyoming, and New Mexico. but may take a lil effort to convince the wife.

damoc | 07-09-2009 07:13 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorty_Harris (Post 1809506) Just Moved from just outside of Las Vegas Nevada (Pahrump) to the farm land of N.Central Ohio. I would encourage the move as long as you stay away from So. NV. its a shit hole. tooo damn many asshats from Cali. They leave so-cal for NV and the first thing they do when they get to Vegas is try their damnedest to make it just as bad as where they just came from. Tonopah (W.Central) is better, but still high desert and still very dry. Reno is also a shit hole for the same reason as Vegas. Both Vegas and Reno are over ran with Illegals. If I was to go back, which I am considering, It would Definitely be N.E, or N.Central..I.E Winnemucca, Elko, and to a lesser extent Ely or some surrounding areas. Also Been considering Wyoming, and New Mexico. but may take a lil effort to convince the wife.
norcal should be a different state, my closest neighbors are from socal and are trying to change things to the way they were in san diego.most everyone else on the road are very good folk but sooner or later my beehives chickens and rabbits are going to be to big for this 10 acres and i cant afford to buy out the neighbors. the land i was interested in was from near winnemucca nobody even placed a bid on it through ebay the first time.

Unclad Lad | 07-12-2009 01:38 AM
Re: what about nevada? Water, even in the drier parts of the state, is not the problem it would seem. There are some huge aquifers that Vegas is eyeing, and ranching requires some of the wet stuff too. If you build an Earthship, or other houses that work with the locale, and practice common sense water usage, you might be able to get by on your well alone.

Silver Stater | 07-12-2009 09:16 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by Fermentation (Post 1806258) Anyone moving or living in Nevada is a fool in my opinion. Anywhere in the southwest for that matter. Maybe a possible exception are high mountains of New mexico, and that's a big maybe. There will be huge water problems and energy problems, particularly around Peak oil. Who will be able to provide all the air conditioning in diminishing energy world? Not too mention proximity with Mexico and the potential for serious conflict in a post industrial world. i wouldn't take free land anywhere in the Southwest and especially Nevada of Phoenix. http://www.kunstler.com/excerpt_lasvegas.html
Yes, stay away from Southern Nevada and the Reno area but the rest of the state is very conservative. Virtually no gun laws outside of the cities, the state is 85% owned by the federal government which means plenty of land for grazing (and seclusion). Most of Nevada is perfect for solar energy so use that if looking for long term relocation. There are lakes and river in the northern part of the state just like Idaho. There are a lot of advantages of living in the northern part of the state so if you can get cheap land consider it.

thorgrim | 07-15-2009 04:29 PM
Re: what about nevada? I think the inhospitableness could be an advantage if tshtf in a big way. Much less likely to be bothered . Anyone thinking of living or already in an arid place should check out this book. Harvesting Rainwater. Amazon Amazon Some good ideas and examples of how to maximize the useful potential of the rain you do get. 75% of the rain washes off the land. If you can reduce it to even 50% you can get some spectacular results.

Between The Wheels | 07-15-2009 04:47 PM
Re: what about nevada? Quote:
Originally Posted by thorgrim (Post 1819068) I think the inhospitableness could be an advantage if tshtf in a big way. Much less likely to be bothered . Anyone thinking of living or already in an arid place should check out this book. Harvesting Rainwater. http://www.amazon.ca/Rainwater-Harve...7689556&sr=1-1 Some good ideas and examples of how to maximize the useful potential of the rain you do get. 75% of the rain washes off the land. If you can reduce it to even 50% you can get some spectacular results.
More info on the book here: http://oasisdesign.net/water/rainhar.../drylandsbook/ http://oikos.com/library/rainwater/

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