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yunowu | 12-27-2009 02:09 AM
12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Joe Weisenthal and John Carney | Oct. 30, 2009, 8:52 AM | 835,228 | 98 PrintTags: Features http://www.businessinsider.com/ten-p...o-crap-2009-10 War, oil shortages, global warming, nuclear bombs, and economic collapse... All of it seems unlikely, but don't you want to be prepared? If you have to jump on a plane (or a boat or a train or a hot air balloon) and head for safety, you want to know where in the world you should go. We've selected places that we expect will remain fortresses of stability, safety, and prosperity no matter what the world throws at it. Here's where to go -- > http://www.businessinsider.com/ten-p...0#chiang-mai-1

Storm Chaser | 12-27-2009 02:42 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell I would at least come here first. Then off to my zombie defence location.

Heimdhal | 12-27-2009 03:23 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Im going to the Azores. A quick review of the islands leads me to believe that 20 guys and a stick could take it over from its current possesors. So....whos got a stick?

striped_bear | 12-27-2009 03:40 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Worst list ever.

____hoot____ | 12-27-2009 05:47 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell I alwas wanted to build my own island out of used tires and take it to the Saraggraso Sea and just float around

immanti | 12-27-2009 06:22 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell There are many places in the world where people have been living according to their means for a long time. Not all national govt's have the ability the US has had for decades to sell their debt as the soft end of a tough bargain. People in such places don't have the luxury of a currency that others accept as if it were any good. Their standards of living are of course lower than the inflated Western ideal, because they are supported only by their ability to produce, often in spite of legal and tax collection systems apparently designed to make them fail. Those are more realistic, more solid standards of living. Those are places where people are used to doing more with less and where consumption is closer to production, both physically and in monetary terms. Economic problems are likely to be handled better in such places.

Twisted Avatar | 12-27-2009 07:03 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Quote:
Originally Posted by striped_bear (Post 2095571) Worst list ever.
When you're in the land of Africa, Cape Town is as good as it gets. Gorgeous views and harbors, the city is the second most populous in South Africa with good reason. Even if everything went to hell in a handbasket, Cape Town would quietly continue along, as if nothing had ever happened. The state of Cape Town's economy is nothing like that of its sister cities to the north, thanks in part to the location of South Africa. It also is relatively free of Western foreign influence, yet, maintains stability and tranquility through the years. This author has got to be smoking crack. By the boatload. T

AceNZ | 12-27-2009 07:27 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Quote:
Originally Posted by striped_bear (Post 2095571) Worst list ever.
QFT. Guam? Denver? Islands in the middle of nowhere? Cape Town? Insane.

PastTense | 12-27-2009 08:33 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell If there is an American collapse it will have major effects worldwide. Going to a foreign country only works if you are rich. Otherwise you would hit with a great deal of anti-immigrant sentiment.

cfcw | 12-27-2009 09:30 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell I'm interested to see how many of these places could survive at their current population levels without food imports. Coconuts and fish will only go so far.

gypsybiker45 | 12-27-2009 09:51 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell small tropical Islands are like fixed fortifications, as Patton said "Monuments to the stupidity of Man" In SHTF as soon as one island runs out of something they need (food) they will attack the next one over, ruining your utopia. (see Water World)Technology wouldnt disappear. Mountain living gives cover,food sources,water and winter weeds out the wimps. staying in any third world area like Africa is stupid, these people have centuries of survival skills behind them and modern weapons, a small group wouldnt last three hours against a determined Tribe that wanted your preps. the city dwellers in these countries would die off quickly as they are helpless. Warlords would rule. look at Somalia

yunowu | 12-27-2009 09:53 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell 2009 is the last year that I have to work like a peasant dentist. I shall visit Africa sometime next year. Africa is the only continent that I have not set my feet on. I have visited numerous exotic locations with many spirited British and South African explorers. :signs1::emotions16: Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 2095625) When you're in the land of Africa, Cape Town is as good as it gets. Gorgeous views and harbors, the city is the second most populous in South Africa with good reason. Even if everything went to hell in a handbasket, Cape Town would quietly continue along, as if nothing had ever happened. The state of Cape Town's economy is nothing like that of its sister cities to the north, thanks in part to the location of South Africa. It also is relatively free of Western foreign influence, yet, maintains stability and tranquility through the years. This author has got to be smoking crack. By the boatload. T

crazychicken | 12-27-2009 10:02 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 2095625) When you're in the land of Africa, Cape Town is as good as it gets. Gorgeous views and harbors, the city is the second most populous in South Africa with good reason. Even if everything went to hell in a handbasket, Cape Town would quietly continue along, as if nothing had ever happened. The state of Cape Town's economy is nothing like that of its sister cities to the north, thanks in part to the location of South Africa. It also is relatively free of Western foreign influence, yet, maintains stability and tranquility through the years. This author has got to be smoking crack. By the boatload. T
You are wrong---The author has to be smoking REALLY BAD CRACK. There isn't one location for SHTF that is worth the powder to send it into the atmosphere. South Africa--JHC! Don't forget your ammo RIo--Worse than SA Kansas City--OH yeah--Live in the city or the surrounding area with the good ol' USA in dire financial and social calamity Denver--Same as above Yukon--Eight months of good weather and four months of ????????????? And they are the five.BEST SPOTS of the list??????????????? Is "FREE EVACUATION BY HELICOPTER" included?????? blah! CC

Ag_man | 12-27-2009 10:07 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Quote:
Originally Posted by striped_bear (Post 2095571) Worst list ever.
Rio, Denver, Kansas City?? Not exactly my choice for BO locations. Guam? They'll be eating each other in a month once the ships stop coming in, as will Hawaii.

electric-amish | 12-27-2009 10:46 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Here is a place for you Coastal Guys and Gals [IMG]http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_bHLwgDdLmBEAf7yjzbkF/SIG=129gsa291/EXP=1262015088/**http%3A//www.arischindler.com/photos/large/DSCN3196.jpg[/IMG]

Unclad Lad | 12-27-2009 06:39 PM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Got my isolated rocks mixed up.

ShortJohnSilver | 12-27-2009 07:02 PM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Unless you are black, stay away from ANY area that is near a heavily-black area. In the USA, I would think eastern TN, Nebraska, etc, that is, relatively sparsely populated areas with an agricultural bent would be good.

hoarder | 12-27-2009 07:12 PM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Quote:
Originally Posted by yunowu (Post 2095538) 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Joe Weisenthal
I won't take advice on where to go if the world goes to hell from the same people who are causing the world to go to hell. Sorry.

StrawMan=Corporation | 12-27-2009 08:56 PM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell With what is expected to happen in 2012 and the past history of the volcano at the center of the island, I would cross this location off the list. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In 1961, a volcanic eruption forced the evacuation of the entire population.<o:p></o:p> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 2096426) Tristan de Cahuna is a place I researched (I love Google Earth!), interestingly enough. Access to the island is very difficult--it has no harbor or beaches! Supply ships stand offshore, and boats are winched into the water to shuttle the goods in, and anyone leaving, out. There is no airstrip. So it is very defensible, but you would want to quite wealthy to set yourself up there to live above a subsistence level after SHTF.

State of Jefferson | 12-27-2009 10:25 PM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell When someone creates such a list, and includes any city over 20,000 on it, you can stop reading right there.

gunner | 12-27-2009 11:39 PM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell Quote:
Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 2096426) Tristan de Cahuna is a place I researched (I love Google Earth!), interestingly enough. Access to the island is very difficult--it has no harbor or beaches! Supply ships stand offshore, and boats are winched into the water to shuttle the goods in, and anyone leaving, out. There is no airstrip. So it is very defensible, but you would want to quite wealthy to set yourself up there to live above a subsistence level after SHTF.
Apparently the author doesn't bother to do a lot of research on his articles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha All Tristan families are farmers, owning their own stock. All land is communally owned. Livestock numbers are strictly controlled to conserve pasture and to prevent better-off families accumulating wealth. No outsiders are allowed to buy land or settle on Tristan.[12]

TUMS | 12-31-2009 03:35 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell I would take my chances in British Columbia if the immigration laws were better. Land prices are certainly much cheaper than I have seen in Northern Idaho/Oregon area. I think western Montana has pretty high prices as well. In BC i've seen some nice land up and around Prince George. 200+ acres with a decent house for around 250K $US. I saw another property I really like right on the fraiser river near Penny. The fraiser is probably the largest salmon river in the world, more than 5 species of salmon travel the river.. With a large greenhouse and a good knowledge of hunting, fishing gardening/canning, I think one could make out OK.

Dave Thomas | 12-31-2009 03:43 AM
Re: 12 Places To Go If The World Goes To Hell "When the world goes to hell" to your typical "Business Insider" reader means: 1) You shore up your budget by forgoing Chai Lattes 2) Your service contract on your BMW has lapsed 3) You schedule the landscapers to once a month instead of every two weeks 4) You had to fire the Nanny 5) You canceled your daughters Cello lessons etc. etc. the list goes on. Obviously quite a different hell from GIM's "Zombies will tear your trachea out with their teeth type of hell" We've all come to know and love.

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