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PALLADIUM | 01-31-2010 06:13 PM
Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare (Long article) Shrimp's Dirty Secrets: Why America's Favorite Seafood Is a Health and Environmental Nightmare The environmental impact of shrimp can be horrific. But most Americans don't know where their shrimp comes from or what's in it. January 25, 2010 http://www.alternet.org/food/145369/...re?page=entire Americans love their shrimp. It's the most popular seafood in the country, but unfortunately much of the shrimp we eat are a cocktail of chemicals, harvested at the expense of one of the world's productive ecosystems. Worse, guidelines for finding some kind of "sustainable shrimp" are so far nonexistent. In his book, Bottomfeeder: How to Eat Ethically in a World of Vanishing Seafood, Taras Grescoe paints a repulsive picture of how shrimp are farmed in one region of India. The shrimp pond preparation begins with urea, superphosphate, and diesel, then progresses to the use of piscicides (fish-killing chemicals like chlorine and rotenone), pesticides and antibiotics (including some that are banned in the U.S.), and ends by treating the shrimp with sodium tripolyphosphate (a suspected neurotoxicant), Borax, and occasionally caustic soda................. http://www.alternet.org/food/145369/...re?page=entire

Golddust | 01-31-2010 06:25 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Thank you kindly, will still buy from the gulf, and wild caught. Farm raised seafoods (not fresh water)(And there are issues with fresh water farming), I believe has problems that still need to be solved. So they do not wreck the waters that the farming is taking place in.. As stated above.

Spectrism | 01-31-2010 06:26 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare I went to buy shrimp/ lobster, end of December from a local guy who makes runs to Maine. I asked where the shrimp was from. He said it mostly all came from Viet Nam. I stopped eating shrimp. There is no way to know what is in our foods anymore.

Golddust | 01-31-2010 06:33 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare It is a couple of hundred miles to the coast of la and tx now, have lived on the la coast. But have been known to road trip down and make shrimp and crawfish buys. And be happy for the trip...! Mainly back when I threw party's for close friends...

elroy | 01-31-2010 07:01 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare I read an article about shrimp farming in China [of course]. They build long skinny ponds, maybe 100 feet long and 20 feet wide. Then they suspend cages full of chickens over the ponds. The chickens crap and the shrimp eat it. The shrimp are also fed large amounts of antibiotics to keep them from getting sick and croaking due to their diet. Yum Yum!

PALLADIUM | 01-31-2010 07:09 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare I went to a small Midwest Catholic liberal arts college. The biology professor had one of those dry, egghead senses of humor. Once at some kind of function, they had some shrimp and other stuff laid out for guests. As a nun was picking up some shrimp, the professor standing next to her said, "Did you know that shrimp are the cockroaches of the sea?" The nun got a "green around the gills" look on her face, put the shrimp down and walked away. The professor got a great laugh out of that one......bancha

Twisted Avatar | 01-31-2010 07:13 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Anything that is farmed at the commercial level has been absolutely ruined T

Golddust | 01-31-2010 07:14 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by PALLADIUM (Post 2156150) I went to a small Midwest Catholic liberal arts college. The biology professor had one of those dry, egghead senses of humor. Once at some kind of function, they had some shrimp and other stuff laid out for guests. As a nun was picking up some shrimp, the professor standing next to her said, "Did you know that shrimp are the cockroaches of the sea?" The nun got a "green around the gills" look on her face, put the shrimp down and walked away. The professor got a great laugh out of that one......bancha
Still like to do my own , battered and fry'd or boiled same with mudbugs..... Plus some bottom feeding catfish!! Food chain sort of thing.... :4_1_72:

AlterEgo | 01-31-2010 07:24 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Back in the early 80's in south Fla. we used to go out on the pier with a coleman lantern and a net. Usually could come home with 20 lb.'s or more on one trip. I understand now they don't even show up. I don't do store shrimp.

Golddust | 01-31-2010 07:30 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by AlterEgo (Post 2156176) Back in the early 80's in south Fla. we used to go out on the pier with a coleman lantern and a net. Usually could come home with 20 lb.'s or more on one trip. I understand now they don't even show up. I don't do store shrimp.
Hoo wee. Did the same but in la (state) and tx. also used chicken necks or what ever for blue crab, with out a doubt my fav!! Gooood Eating!!!

jetgraphics | 01-31-2010 07:32 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Why the fuss? We all breathe tree farts.

3x3l3r8 | 01-31-2010 07:43 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare jetgraphics, that was funny. On a serious note . . . Can you imagine how healthy we could all be if the only meat we ate was hunted/fished by us or someone we know personally? Forget the preservatives and packaging, or what kind of chemicals were pumped into it. Those concerns would be non-existent. I am sure some of you already live this way, and that is awesome. You guys know what you're doing already. But more and more, we (the rest of us) are oblivious to how our food gets to the table. Most of us don't care, some of us don't want to know. I think I usually fall into the latter.

ShortJohnSilver | 01-31-2010 07:46 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare If you ever get the chance in Asia, get the good stuff like the big shrimp and the salmon ... usually the shrimp is farmed in big cages set out right in the ocean, and the salmon is wild-caught ... beautiful stuff.

bob681 | 01-31-2010 07:52 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Easy way to tell if the shrimp are farm shrimp is if they are all exactly the same size. Shrimp out of the gulf can't be sorted that well. Bob

Brio | 01-31-2010 08:00 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Good thing I'm not really fond of shrimp.... Each summer I get maybe 20-30 salmon caught by native friends. Last year there was supposed to be a huge depletion of salmon stocks but you wouldn't know it, they were selling the fish for $5 each all of them from little 8 lbers to the huge 40 lbers. All fresh caught and cleaned. I canned some smoked some, froze some. Freeze fresh fish in a bag of water and it won't go stale in the deep freeze. If you're canning, 2 tbsp.s of vinegar per (1/2 litre) jar will dissolve the bones and not alter the taste at all.

nub | 01-31-2010 08:21 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare I used to like shrimp, But you really never know whats in it anymore... so I will just do without. I did buy some wild Japanese scallops the other day... But who knows where they were caught or what chemicals are in them. I guess I am just gonna pass on the seafood from now on. I'll just stick to the meat my butcher provides, at least he can tell me exactly where it came from, and who grew it.

Golddust | 01-31-2010 08:32 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Quote:
Originally Posted by nub (Post 2156255) I used to like shrimp, But you really never know whats in it anymore... so I will just do without. I did buy some wild Japanese scallops the other day... But who knows where they were caught or what chemicals are in them. I guess I am just gonna pass on the seafood from now on. I'll just stick to the meat my butcher provides, at least he can tell me exactly where it came from, and who grew it.
I can understand the caution.. But I do believe that there is a certan gusto in life.... And the small stuff is not one of them.. Kids and if you are young. maybe..? Get older and mind you been on a diet that they that should know has said and re said changing what is good or not! Who in the hell knows really! Pay attention (full) of where it comes from and if it passes your smell test(ha) go for it.. If not some here will miss truley (sp) wonderful ways of living (long? short?, not dead yet and every country I have been in have gone native) (and after the first runs , the gut becomes adjusted) The important thing is the chem's and what is in the food. But in small doses and spread over time.. life can be good! just saying

Irons | 01-31-2010 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 3x3l3r8 (Post 2156199) jetgraphics, that was funny. On a serious note . . . Can you imagine how healthy we could all be if the only meat we ate was hunted/fished by us or someone we know personally? Forget the preservatives and packaging, or what kind of chemicals were pumped into it. Those concerns would be non-existent. I am sure some of you already live this way, and that is awesome. You guys know what you're doing already. But more and more, we (the rest of us) are oblivious to how our food gets to the table. Most of us don't care, some of us don't want to know. I think I usually fall into the latter.
Free range beef and chicken in Iron's back yard.:adore: We have to put up with some nasty cold here in Northern Michigan, but you would have to be totally city to go hungry here. Attachment 86570

Golddust | 01-31-2010 09:57 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Trade you a turkey for a hog!!!! Those sobs are rooting up a lot of e-tx now

nub | 01-31-2010 10:12 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare I don't buy to much food in the supermarket, don't like shopping anyway...mostly paper products, tp and papertowels. I went outside tonight and picked some swiss chard and had some flank steak from the butcher where I get my meat. I don't really do a garden, just throw seeds in the flowerbeds, if it comes up good. Made enough swiss chard to have leftovers for breakfast scrambled eggs with swiss chard, got the eggs from the coop this am. at least I know where the food came from.

CajunCoin | 01-31-2010 10:25 PM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare Louisiana shrimp is the only Shrimp I eat, Foriegn stuff is poisonous. Compre mon ami.

gunny highway | 02-01-2010 12:26 AM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare i only eat shrimp local to the Lowcountry of South Carolina. there's a bumpersticker here that says "Say no to Drugs! Don't eat imported shrimp!"

thorgrim | 02-01-2010 03:38 AM
Re: Shrimp Now A Health & Environmental Nightmare I pretty much just don't eat crustaceans. They are the bugs of the sea and tend to have higher levels of toxins then other seafood even if they are caught in the open ocean. They are also considered an unclean animal BTW.

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