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graspAU | 01-09-2008 12:23 AM
Bird Flu BBC documentary I know there is much skepticism about H5N1. Just posting the video in case anyone is open to watching it: Pandemic (a possible look of the future)
Pandemic (a possible look of the future)

Dave Thomas | 01-09-2008 01:21 AM
Re: Bird Flu BBC documentary Quote:
Originally Posted by scottp999 (Post 908269) I know there is much skepticism about H5N1. Just posting the video in case anyone is open to watching it: Pandemic (a possible look of the future)
You know whats funny about all of these situations where there is a lot of biological matter strewn about in the streets of Angkor Wat or wherever? They show it incubating, salivating, festering. Waiting to come loose at any minute? They need to look in any slaughterhouse here in the states. Didn't anyone remember the Pig brain compressed gas incident? Sure we don't buy our chickens off the road, but why will antibodies favor those on the road as opposed to aerosol form? Maybe they could do with a few rubber gloves and all.

thorgrim | 01-09-2008 02:04 AM
Re: Bird Flu BBC documentary Didn't watch past the first couple of minutes not enough time tonight but I did download it. I'm not too worried about bird flu but what does worry me is all the effort that goes into telling people they should be worried about it. Makes me think they are preparing us mentally for some planned pandemic they will release down the road.

shades2 | 01-09-2008 02:05 AM
Re: Bird Flu BBC documentary The first guy's statement is wrong. He said that mankind has never seen a virus like this, but the Spanish Flu is well documented, and killed 50 million. He also calls the virus "evil". That's just stupid, a virus is not even a living organism, it is just a coded strand of RNA that replicates in a host. It is just a matter of time until a influenza type A virus mutates and human to human contact and aerosol transmission becomes an easier source of infection for the virus. Then we have the next pandemic. You either get sick and get better, and get immunity, have a natural immunity (which is highly unlikely), run away to a remote place and never get infected by other humans, or die. Hopefully an effective influenza type A permanent vaccine will show up, but that could put a lot of people out of business now couldn't it....

graspAU | 01-09-2008 10:05 AM
Re: Bird Flu BBC documentary Quote:
Originally Posted by thorgrim (Post 908381) Didn't watch past the first couple of minutes not enough time tonight but I did download it. I'm not too worried about bird flu but what does worry me is all the effort that goes into telling people they should be worried about it. Makes me think they are preparing us mentally for some planned pandemic they will release down the road.
Your conclusion is quite possible. Isn't it interesting that they have distributed the live virus all over the world for research purposes? I think there is a danger (not sure what level) and it's just another thing to consider. Something like this could be released to get the mobs under control by reducing the human population by 600 million, and scaring everyone into government dependence. I think the timing would be perfect if the world economy and banking system is going down. Imagine a financial panic and virual panic at the same time. I'm lucky enough to live next to our main biological warefare installation where the do some pretty top secret things. One benefit, I will be one to quickly go if it is released. The place is also a high priority nuclear target for our friends overseas, so I won't feel any pain if that ever comes about. :wink:

graspAU | 01-09-2008 10:23 AM
Re: Bird Flu BBC documentary Quote:
Originally Posted by shades2 (Post 908384) The first guy's statement is wrong. He said that mankind has never seen a virus like this, but the Spanish Flu is well documented, and killed 50 million. It is a completley new sub type: "it is a new virus for humans (H5N1 viruses have never circulated widely among people...No one will have immunity should an H5N1-like pandemic virus emerge." http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian...ex.html#areall He also calls the virus "evil". That's just stupid, a virus is not even a living organism, it is just a coded strand of RNA that replicates in a host. I think he is talking about its ability to damage multiple organs and brain tissue compared to other strains. "Of the few avian influenza viruses that have crossed the species barrier to infect humans, H5N1 has caused the largest number of cases of severe disease and death in humans. Unlike normal seasonal influenza, where infection causes only mild respiratory symptoms in most people, the disease caused by H5N1 follows an unusually aggressive clinical course, with rapid deterioration and high fatality. Primary viral pneumonia and multi-organ failure are common. " http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian...x.html#present It is just a matter of time until a influenza type A virus mutates and human to human contact and aerosol transmission becomes an easier source of infection for the virus. Then we have the next pandemic. You either get sick and get better, and get immunity, have a natural immunity (which is highly unlikely), run away to a remote place and never get infected by other humans, or die. Hopefully an effective influenza type A permanent vaccine will show up, but that could put a lot of people out of business now couldn't it....
"When compared with H5N1 viruses from 1997 and early 2004, H5N1 viruses now circulating are more lethal to experimentally infected mice and to ferrets (a mammalian model) and survive longer in the environment. H5N1 appears to have expanded its host range, infecting and killing mammalian species previously considered resistant to infection with avian influenza viruses." http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian...html#apartfrom "What changes are needed for H5N1 to become a pandemic virus? The virus can improve its transmissibility among humans via two principal mechanisms. The first is a “reassortment” event, in which genetic material is exchanged between human and avian viruses during co-infection of a human or pig. Reassortment could result in a fully transmissible pandemic virus, announced by a sudden surge of cases with explosive spread. The second mechanism is a more gradual process of adaptive mutation, whereby the capability of the virus to bind to human cells increases during subsequent infections of humans. Adaptive mutation, expressed initially as small clusters of human cases with some evidence of human-to-human transmission, would probably give the world some time to take defensive action." http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian...ndex.html#cana Lets hope it never happens, but what's wrong with preparing a little now for a self-quarentine of a few months? I'm suprised at the amount of people who completley dismiss the possibility, that's like saying fiat paper money will never fail .

graspAU | 01-09-2008 10:57 AM
Re: Bird Flu BBC documentary Moderate Tamiflu resistance suspected in Egypt: http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...Dominance.html Egypt infection google map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...9,7.976074&z=7 Click the blue and red links to see details of the cases (humans in red).

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