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Anty Ep 07-20-2007 11:45 AM

trimes
 
I bought a trime today for $9. great condition but there is a spot where lamination flaked off near the rim, on the obverse. the guy said this was like an error, or rather a manufacturing defect, but didnt appear to be deliberately damaged. he wanted three for a trime with a couple chops on it, and this one seemed better.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...872/cn0002.jpg

Anty Ep 07-20-2007 11:47 AM

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looks like this but its an 1867

the chip is at the lower edge from 6 to 7 oclock, just touches the 1 and the U. two layers of laminated metal seem visible inside.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/scn10001.jpg

Anty Ep 07-20-2007 11:48 AM

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also the detail is a bit sharper than that partic'ler coin.

Wyldwil 07-20-2007 12:15 PM

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The chipping is due to a zionist plan to make you overpay for percieved numismatic value.....the Jews just stole a couple more bucks from you Anty Ep.

Anty Ep 07-20-2007 12:19 PM

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Since you mention it, I give the dealer only a 1/3 chance of being a Jew. Normally I would have assigned him a 1/10 chance but you know Jews are indeed heavy in this trade. LOL

But then again he might be one of the 100 or so "anti-Zionist Jews" in existence, who knows; but in any case they are about as rare as 1933 Double eagles.

Anyhow, I like the guy, he's congenial enough. Thanks for bringing this up, you know, I wouldnt want you to think that I had a problem talking about any such topic.

Wyldwil 07-20-2007 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 669631)
I wouldnt want you to think that I had a problem talking about any such topic.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You must have E.S.P.....that is exactly what I was worried about!

Seriously though.....trimes are cool. I have a few, and like them very much. Numismatic memoribilia from the "Wild West".:wink:

Anty Ep 07-20-2007 12:41 PM

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you know I just love collecting stuff, but in coinage you have a combined storehouse of value and artifact of craftsmanship and aesthetic and historical signficance. for someone who cant afford fine art, like me, this is a way to do something that strikes the same chords at my humble level.

ironmike 07-20-2007 08:54 PM

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Last year I got one of these from the bank in a roll of dimes. At first I thought it was Canadian because of the lady on it, after closer examination I realized what it was as I had never seen one before. I suppose the reason I found it was because it did not appear to be worn very much at all, it rang like a dime, and maybe someone else had mistaken it for a Canadian dime. It is dated 1868 and is the oldest coin I have ever found in circulation.

GoldWampum 07-20-2007 09:48 PM

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Interesting history:

The Trime
by Michael F. Bryan

In 1851, under severe competitive
pressure, the U.S. postal service lowered
the postage on a one-page letter from
5 cents to 3 cents. The act changed the
character of American money.

This Commentary tells how a confluence
of two events, the expansion of
steam-powered transportation and the
California gold rush, created a problem
of �monetary indivisibility� for the U.S.
post office, the solution to which was the
minting of a 3-cent silver coin, the trime.

Besides being the smallest of all U.S.
coins, the trime had another distinction:
It was the first legal tender with a face
value greater than the market value of
the metal it was minted from. The trime
was America�s first step toward separating
its money from precious metals and
the eventual creation of our �fiat�
money
�a money that is not backed by
or convertible into any commodity. That
is, a money with no intrinsic worth.

Anty Ep 07-22-2007 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 670225)
Interesting history:

The Trime
by Michael F. Bryan

In 1851, under severe competitive
pressure, the U.S. postal service lowered
the postage on a one-page letter from
5 cents to 3 cents. The act changed the
character of American money.

This Commentary tells how a confluence
of two events, the expansion of
steam-powered transportation and the
California gold rush, created a problem
of �monetary indivisibility� for the U.S.
post office, the solution to which was the
minting of a 3-cent silver coin, the trime.

Besides being the smallest of all U.S.
coins, the trime had another distinction:
It was the first legal tender with a face
value greater than the market value of
the metal it was minted from. The trime
was America�s first step toward separating
its money from precious metals and
the eventual creation of our �fiat�
money�a money that is not backed by
or convertible into any commodity. That
is, a money with no intrinsic worth.

fascinating; thank you for providing a context relating to this forum I wasnt even aware of.

oxygold 07-26-2007 09:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 671406)
fascinating; thank you for providing a context relating to this forum I wasnt even aware of.

Anty,

What do you mean? (excuse me, I'm on full oxygold tonight)

GoldWampum 07-27-2007 12:48 AM

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Welcome Anty.

Anty Ep 07-29-2007 12:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oxygold (Post 676383)
Anty,

What do you mean? (excuse me, I'm on full oxygold tonight)

well see, we are always talking about how bad it is that we went off the gold standard, and that we exchanged PM coinage for clad. probably those are the only two things everybody here agrees upon! So the trime was in a way the first non pm US coin I guess, that's the context I was referring to.

Anty Ep 08-11-2007 08:44 PM

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I bought another trime today, not quite as nice but at least VG, cept for the hole in it. which got me the thing for 2.50. pretty good price for a decent trime seems to me.

Silver Gorilla 08-11-2007 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 669588)
looks like this but its an 1867

the chip is at the lower edge from 6 to 7 oclock, just touches the 1 and the U. two layers of laminated metal seem visible inside.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/scn10001.jpg


Hay there buddy I was looking at your coin and saw something Els that's look's like a Error if that is im right about this , The words "UNITED STATES" look at the word STATES, and you can see the E looking like a boxed H or an E that has a line at the end of the E

I could be wrong

Anty Ep 08-11-2007 10:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Gorilla (Post 692799)
Hay there buddy I was looking at your coin and saw something Els that's look's like a Error if that is im right about this , The words "UNITED STATES" look at the word STATES, and you can see the E looking like a boxed H or an E that has a line at the end of the E

I could be wrong

thanks for thinking of me but thats a stock photo not the actual coin

oxygold 08-12-2007 12:37 AM

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osum!

Dude,

Do trimes even contain PMs?


Apologies for the gratuitous post, but we're on full oxy tonight . . .

On topic: I'd be in a PM buy mode right now, but I went for musical gear and a classic concert instead, + or - about a K, not to even mention, my bullion guy is about 30 miles away! Jeebus, it's been so long, he might not even recognize me!

A fiat surplus is still bothering me, though!

Silver Gorilla 08-12-2007 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 692888)
thanks for thinking of me but thats a stock photo not the actual coin

:wink: No probs
It would of been Good if the photo was the actual coin.

Anty Ep 08-31-2007 09:30 AM

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guess what, I just got a type 1 silver trime. little tiny coin! not anything special, AG or good, 1865

stock photo-- not mine-- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...CS_Obverse.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trime


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