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TheSkeptic | 03-25-2010 08:13 PM
How do I price this St Gaudens? 1907 MS-63 (PCGS) St. Gaudens. (PCGS #9141) PCGS price guide has it slightly over $2,000 (used to be way higher), NumisMedia has it at $2160. I've been trying to sell this thing for an even 2k now for weeks with no success - both here and on Craigslist in a major metro area. What I'm trying to figure out is, are these two price guides real world/realistic/reasonable, or do they misrepresent what coins like this go for in the real world?

Gcubed | 03-25-2010 08:15 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Invest in both the Grey and Blue Sheet publications.

TheSkeptic | 03-25-2010 08:22 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Is Grey for dealers and Blue for collector to collector?

Gcubed | 03-25-2010 08:26 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Are you going to ask for subscription information next? Do a bit of work! :10_1_19:

HistoryStudent | 03-25-2010 08:29 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkeptic (Post 2244080) 1907 MS-63 (PCGS) St. Gaudens. (PCGS #9141) PCGS price guide has it slightly over $2,000 (used to be way higher), NumisMedia has it at $2160. I've been trying to sell this thing for an even 2k now for weeks with no success - both here and on Craigslist in a major metro area. What I'm trying to figure out is, are these two price guides real world/realistic/reasonable, or do they misrepresent what coins like this go for in the real world?
One word CHEAPER. But frankly unless you need the money really bad I'd keep it for a short time, perhaps a year. :36_3_12:

TheSkeptic | 03-25-2010 08:30 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? I'm not going to subscribe to a newsletter so I can price one coin. I can certainly call a dealer who does subscribe and ask them what the price is, but, that's kind of pointless if I don't understand what price these sheets are representing - "retail" or "dealer" level. I did go to the site but the answer didn't seem apparent.

TheSkeptic | 03-25-2010 08:32 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2244114) One word CHEAPER. But frankly unless you need the money really bad I'd keep it for a short time, perhaps a year. :36_3_12:
That's what I'm trying to understand, if those two values are generally over what the market will realistically bring. I guess you're saying they are? I don't like numi stuff at all. :) It's a leftover from the business and I've been trying to get rid of it.

Gcubed | 03-25-2010 08:34 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? I normally don't spoon feed but here goes. Grey is raw. Blue is slabbed. Both report dealer bid/ask action. I imagine most "legitimate" dealers pay up in order to be "up to date". 'cubed

TheSkeptic | 03-25-2010 08:36 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Quote:
Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 2244125) I normally don't spoon feed but here goes. Grey is raw. Blue is slabbed. Both report dealer bid/ask action. I imagine most "legitimate" dealers pay up in order to be "up to date". 'cubed
OK, thanks. :)

Gcubed | 03-25-2010 09:05 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Are you SURE that it's not counterfeit? :111:

TheSkeptic | 03-25-2010 09:16 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? No. ..........

Master_Ho | 03-26-2010 12:53 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? For what its worth - I take the prices from PCGS or NCG as a "retail" price........which no one pays. More reasonable is to knock 15-20% Hope it helps! Cheers!

CoinHunter53562 | 03-26-2010 01:27 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Skeptic - PM me on Friday and I will look up the values for you the greysheet and bluesheet

TheSkeptic | 03-26-2010 10:58 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Thanks guys. CoinHunter - will do.

HistoryStudent | 03-26-2010 11:35 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? $1860 at PCGS - 20% = $1,488 starting BID reserve price. TOLD YA to KEEP IT, right?

TheSkeptic | 03-26-2010 11:36 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? It's the 9141 (no motto). $2040 at PCGS

CoinHunter53562 | 03-26-2010 11:47 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Hey Skeptic - here is your info... 3/19/10 Bluesheet shows 1907 $20 St Gaudens PCGS MS-63 at $1535 with no change from prior week 3/26/10 Greysheet shows $20 St Gaudens common type coin raw in MS-63 at bid $1410, ask $1460

TheSkeptic | 03-26-2010 11:53 AM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Thanks. Aren't there two varieties of 1907? This is a PCGS #9141 (#9140 seems to be cheaper)

CoinHunter53562 | 03-26-2010 12:06 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkeptic (Post 2245108) Thanks. Aren't there two varieties of 1907? This is a PCGS #9141 (#9140 seems to be cheaper)
That is correct...the 1907 has the high relief variety which is $18575 in PCGS MS-63 on the bluesheet, and ($22500 bid/$23200 ask) raw on the 3/26/10 greysheet. The greysheet shows an increase from the prior week but it's only +$600 on both so it seems a little odd that PCGS certified is showing a lower bid than a raw type coin.

TheSkeptic | 03-26-2010 12:10 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? I'm talking about Type 2, No Motto, PCGS #9140. I'm a little confused because this coin is a 9141, but I don't know the difference.

RossL | 03-26-2010 12:13 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? start it on ebay at $1 with no reserve. one week auction. provide a good picture. you will find out how much it is worth.

TheSkeptic | 03-26-2010 12:15 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? I've learned my lesson about selling on ebay, sorry. :)

CoinHunter53562 | 03-26-2010 12:19 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkeptic (Post 2245142) I'm talking about Type 2, No Motto, PCGS #9140. I'm a little confused because this coin is a 9141, but I don't know the difference.
As far as I know, all 1907's have no motto on them and have these categories: *ultra high relief with plain edge *ultra high relief with lettered edge *high relief w/roman numerals and wire rim *high relief w/roman numerals and flat rim *regular strike with arabic numerals 9140 seems to be the designation for the coin type, where 9141 is the designation for this specific year/mintmark.

highroller4321 | 03-26-2010 12:24 PM
Re: How do I price this St Gaudens? Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkeptic (Post 2244115) I'm not going to subscribe to a newsletter so I can price one coin. I can certainly call a dealer who does subscribe and ask them what the price is, but, that's kind of pointless if I don't understand what price these sheets are representing - "retail" or "dealer" level. I did go to the site but the answer didn't seem apparent.
For future refrence you can go to www.greysheet.com and buy 1 issue of any greysheet for $4.

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