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ppius13 | 03-17-2008 06:20 PM
Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded I was at the U.S. Mint in Philly on Friday. The proof U.S. Silver Eagles on display looked awesome. Would you recommend collecting them in their original blue U.S. Mint case (with cert/auth) or graded in PCGS PR69DCAM? Thanks in advance for your input!

Piotr01 | 03-17-2008 06:28 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by ppius13 (Post 1016486) I was at the U.S. Mint in Philly on Friday. The proof U.S. Silver Eagles on display looked awesome. Would you recommend collecting them in their original blue U.S. Mint case (with cert/auth) or graded in PCGS PR69DCAM? Thanks in advance for your input!
how come none are PR70 ?

oldmansmith | 03-17-2008 06:30 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Just my opinion, but cheaper in the box and virtually as good with the certificate of authenticity and original packaging. They sure are pretty, but so is a tube of 20 regular ones....

ppius13 | 03-17-2008 07:09 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotr01 (Post 1016504) how come none are PR70 ?
I can't justify spending big bucks on Proof 70's. I am a serious collector of 50's and 60's non-sports trading cards and I only buy PSA 8's (comparable to 69's). I am not ready to commit to another serious collection when the ultimate goal is accumulation of oz's.

thrifty_bob | 03-17-2008 07:33 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by ppius13 (Post 1016486) I was at the U.S. Mint in Philly on Friday. The proof U.S. Silver Eagles on display looked awesome. Would you recommend collecting them in their original blue U.S. Mint case (with cert/auth) or graded in PCGS PR69DCAM? Thanks in advance for your input!
I certainly wouldn't bother having an ounce of silver graded. $20 to grade for $20 worth of silver?

Camp Bassfish | 03-17-2008 10:45 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty_bob (Post 1016622) I certainly wouldn't bother having an ounce of silver graded. $20 to grade for $20 worth of silver?
Stop being so dang thrifty......Bob!! :sarcasm:

phideaux | 03-17-2008 11:51 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty_bob (Post 1016622) I certainly wouldn't bother having an ounce of silver graded. $20 to grade for $20 worth of silver?
It does pay, if you have a key date such as 1996 or 2006W. PCGS list on MS69 is $150.

twenty4karat | 03-18-2008 01:54 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotr01 (Post 1016504) how come none are PR70 ?
You can only buy them from the U.S. Mint in their original proof case w/ COA. If you want to have it graded, you have to send it through a PCGS or NGC approved dealer. This will cost you another $30 at least and then you are not guaranteed a PR70. At this stage of the game, I would just concentrate on getting more ounces. Maranatha, :smile:

silverblood | 03-18-2008 02:20 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 1016933) It does pay, if you have a key date such as 1996 or 2006W. PCGS list on MS69 is $150.
How do you know what are key dates?

Raccoon | 03-18-2008 03:24 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by silverblood (Post 1017059) How do you know what are key dates?
A bullion coin that that exists in only 3 million nearly perfect copies instead of the normal 5 million nearly perfect copies can be a key date. It is a term that the numismatic bullion crowd has borrowed from real numismatists. If your bullion is slabbed and MS70 instead of the normal MS68/69 it is perceived as rare and thus more valuable. Only government issued rounds are graded and slabbed so far, but I bet that 1 oz bars and Baby's first Christmas rounds can't be far behind.

Martian_Time_slip | 03-18-2008 06:21 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by twenty4karat (Post 1017043) At this stage of the game, I would just concentrate on getting more ounces. Maranatha, :smile:
I agree. Now is not the ideal time to buy numis during a PM bull market. Maybe after the bull is over and silver and gold are 1/3 their current price, numis will be priced more attractively. But patience is a virtue. :D

phideaux | 03-18-2008 07:52 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by silverblood (Post 1017059) How do you know what are key dates?
PCGS price guide is a good start. http://www.pcgs.com/prices/

ppius13 | 03-19-2008 09:34 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Thank you all for your input. I have decided to collect Modern Silver Dollar Commemoratives (1982 to Date) in PCGS Proof 69 DCAM. If I really get the numismatic collector's bug, I'll start to collect proof Silver Eagles and Modern Silver Half-Dollar Commemoratives. Oh goodness, what demon have I released...

thrifty_bob | 03-19-2008 11:12 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded I watched my dad put tens of thousands of dollars into rare stamps over a 50 year period, and come to find out its almost worthless because they are only worth what someone will pay for them. That's why I only bought proof coins that were priced near spot. Maybe someone will be willing to pay a bunch extra for them someday, maybe not, but either way, they'll still be worth at least spot.

j-son | 03-19-2008 11:20 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by ppius13 (Post 1016577) I am a serious collector of 50's and 60's non-sports trading cards and I only buy PSA 8's (comparable to 69's)..
SGC's holders are nicer.

Raccoon | 03-19-2008 11:24 AM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty_bob (Post 1019328) I watched my dad put tens of thousands of dollars into rare stamps over a 50 year period, and come to find out its almost worthless because they are only worth what someone will pay for them.
This is unfortunately what most collectors of items that aren't truly rare will experience.

Texan | 03-19-2008 04:40 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by thrifty_bob (Post 1019328) I watched my dad put tens of thousands of dollars into rare stamps over a 50 year period, and come to find out its almost worthless because they are only worth what someone will pay for them. That's why I only bought proof coins that were priced near spot. Maybe someone will be willing to pay a bunch extra for them someday, maybe not, but either way, they'll still be worth at least spot.
I'm all too familiar with this phenomenon as a collecter of baseball/football/basketball cards as a kid during the late eighties. I finally sold probably 20-25000 commons last fall for thirty freakin' bucks. I kept the choice/sentimental stuff of course.

ppius13 | 03-19-2008 07:12 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1019350) SGC's holders are nicer.
No question that the SGC holders, with their black background, are prettier. But, like Betamax, Eight-track stereo and HD-DVD, it is on the road to extinction!

ppius13 | 03-19-2008 07:19 PM
Re: Proof U.S. Silver Eagles : Graded or Ungraded Quote:
Originally Posted by Raccoon (Post 1019359) This is unfortunately what most collectors of items that aren't truly rare will experience.
I grew up in NYC in the 1960's. I spent most of my paper-boy money on coins. The same uncirculated silver dollars that I paid $4.00 for, I sold in 1981 (when silver was $13.00/oz) for $35.00 each. I was able to buy a new car: a 1981 Toyota Starlet (49mpg/41mpg). Raccoon, notwithstanding the above, I happen to totally agree with you.

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