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agmom | 04-22-2009 02:09 PM
Littleton "slabs" I recently made an excellent deal on eBay, and bought 2 Britannias for just over $16 each, as well as a Kookaburra, all from the same seller. They each came in those "slabs" from Littleton, which I just find annoying. I much prefer a direct fit airtite so I can play with my coins!:yippee: Newbie question, I know, but is there any reason I should keep them in those plastic holders? Will they be easier to sell down the road? I'm not sure if I can open the package w/out cutting into it. It's not like the coins are graded, it just seems like packaging to me. Any advice?

Clawdia | 04-22-2009 02:39 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" There are a bunch of slab crackers around who can probably advise you . . . I'd be wanting 'em out of the slabs, but don't know if that'd be a right or wrong decision, just preference.

foolsgold | 04-22-2009 02:47 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Leave them in the slabs. Buy more and play with them.

HistoryStudent | 04-22-2009 03:37 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1689378) Leave them in the slabs. Buy more and play with them.
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agmom | 04-22-2009 04:46 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" HistoryStudent - Let's see if I've got this straight (Reader's Digest version!) 1. World is going to hell in a handbasket, therefore... 2. Buy more PM's!!! (I'm happy for the excuse to buy duplicates. Still wondering about those pesky slabs though.)

Texan | 04-22-2009 05:25 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" 1 Attachment(s) Are you talking about something similar to this, Agmom? Not a hard plastic PCGS or NGC slab, but the light duty plastic ones that come apart easily?

HistoryStudent | 04-22-2009 05:35 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by agmom (Post 1689515) HistoryStudent - Let's see if I've got this straight (Reader's Digest version!) 1. World is going to hell in a handbasket, therefore... 2. Buy more PM's!!! (I'm happy for the excuse to buy duplicates. Still wondering about those pesky slabs though.)
Ah COME on :signs14: - I was just having a little fun with our recent news. :36_1_25: Be brave, be courageous, have joy - and LOTS of INSURANCE! :wink::111:

Curmudgeonista | 04-22-2009 06:56 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan (Post 1689568) Are you talking about something similar to this, Agmom? Not a hard plastic PCGS or NGC slab, but the light duty plastic ones that come apart easily?
I assumed those cheapie Littleton clamshell things were what the OP meant. I've bought a few coins in thiose, but take them out immediately. They're not even sealed... just a single plastic "spot weld" along each edge tab. No "cracking" to it. Just use a razor on one of the "spot welds" and out slides the coin. No added value to the Littleton thingamajigs. Air-Tites are a much better idea.

Dude | 04-22-2009 07:20 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Curmudgeonista (Post 1689692) I assumed those cheapie Littleton clamshell things were what the OP meant. I've bought a few coins in thiose, but take them out immediately. They're not even sealed... just a single plastic "spot weld" along each edge tab. No "cracking" to it. Just use a razor on one of the "spot welds" and out slides the coin. No added value to the Littleton thingamajigs. Air-Tites are a much better idea.
Direct Littleton purchases were a ripoff when I was a kid 35 years ago. Cost me $20 to realize - 4 lawn mowings back then. Send me the plastic so I can take them outside and melt them with my magnifying glass.:cry1:

agmom | 04-22-2009 07:35 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1689589) Ah COME on :signs14: - I was just having a little fun with our recent news. :36_1_25: Be brave, be courageous, have joy - and LOTS of INSURANCE! :wink::111:
No offense taken - I was just having a little fun too!!:36_3_12: Thanks, Curmudgeonista, that clamshell thing is exactly what I was talking about. I'm very glad to hear it's no great loss to get rid of it. Airtite it is! (I know my coins are just bullion, but coin people seem to be a particular lot, and I didn't want to diminish their value down the road. I'm still on the steep part of that learning curve. THANKS!)

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 04-22-2009 07:36 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Agmom, If you are not able to pull apart the plastic with your fingers then another option you have is if you some big scissors, you can cut through the plastic. You can cut across the 4 edges of the plastic were it is sealed and then you should be able to pull it open without damaging the coin. I had a littleton slab before and I was able to cut the sealed edges to get to the coin. The razor idea that Curmudgeonista mentioned also works. I hope this helps Excellent ebay silver scores on the Britannias because these Britannias have very high premiums on them and to be able to get them for $16/each and especially on ebay is very very good indeed.

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 04-22-2009 07:49 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by agmom (Post 1689736) No offense taken - I was just having a little fun too!!:36_3_12: Thanks, Curmudgeonista, that clamshell thing is exactly what I was talking about. I'm very glad to hear it's no great loss to get rid of it. Airtite it is! (I know my coins are just bullion, but coin people seem to be a particular lot, and I didn't want to diminish their value down the road. I'm still on the steep part of that learning curve. THANKS!)
The airtites should work with the Britannias. The price you paid on the Britannias is much cheaper then what APMEX was charging before shipping cost on these coins. The key thing about the Britannias is not to scratch them. I would treat them with great care IMO because you do not want to scratch the queen's face. :111:

Clawdia | 04-22-2009 08:19 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Do the 40 mm airtites work for all the 'common' silver coins - phils, Britannias, etc., and the Koalas and Kooks? I just got the most gorgeous '08 silver Britannia that badly wants to be protected from any threat of damage . . . and I have a Koala in a cracked holder that needs to be replaced. Also, if that's the right size airtite, where's the best place to buy a few? (Of course, if that's the wrong size, then I still need to know where to buy what is right . . . )

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 04-22-2009 08:22 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1689796) Do the 40 mm airtites work for all the 'common' silver coins - phils, Britannias, etc., and the Koalas and Kooks? I just got the most gorgeous '08 silver Britannia that badly wants to be protected from any threat of damage . . . and I have a Koala in a cracked holder that needs to be replaced. Also, if that's the right size airtite, where's the best place to buy a few? (Of course, if that's the wrong size, then I still need to know where to buy what is right . . . )
The 40 mm airtites should work with Britannias because the Britannias are 40 mm in diameter.

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 04-22-2009 08:27 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1689796) Do the 40 mm airtites work for all the 'common' silver coins - phils, Britannias, etc., and the Koalas and Kooks? I just got the most gorgeous '08 silver Britannia that badly wants to be protected from any threat of damage . . . and I have a Koala in a cracked holder that needs to be replaced. Also, if that's the right size airtite, where's the best place to buy a few? (Of course, if that's the wrong size, then I still need to know where to buy what is right . . . )
If the Koala is 40 mm in diameter, then a 40 mm airtite should work. If the Koala is 38 mm in diameter, then a silver Canadian Maple Leaf airtite should work for a Koala. EDIT: I checked the internet and the Koala is 40.6 mm. An airtite for a 1-oz SAE will work for a 1-oz silver Koala.

agmom | 04-22-2009 08:39 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawJoseyWalesJr (Post 1689738) Excellent ebay silver scores on the Britannias because these Britannias have very high premiums on them and to be able to get them for $16/each and especially on ebay is very very good indeed.
Thanks! I happened to stumble across the seller while I was looking at some Russian coins. Nowhere in the description did they even mention the word "Britannia," so very little competition!! (BTW, they were a 2000 and a 2001 Brit., neither of which I had.) Clawdia, yes the 40mm airtite does work for the Britannia. I believe the older Kookaburras are a 38mm, the same as a silver maple, but I think the newer kooks may be a little larger. (Not sure about that.)

Curmudgeonista | 04-23-2009 12:25 AM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by agmom (Post 1689823) Thanks! I happened to stumble across the seller while I was looking at some Russian coins. Nowhere in the description did they even mention the word "Britannia," so very little competition!! (BTW, they were a 2000 and a 2001 Brit., neither of which I had.) Clawdia, yes the 40mm airtite does work for the Britannia. I believe the older Kookaburras are a 38mm, the same as a silver maple, but I think the newer kooks may be a little larger. (Not sure about that.)
Pretty sure all Kookaburras going back to 1990 are 40mm. I like to keep direct fit Air-Tites on-hand in 40mm, 39mm, 1 oz bar size (rectangles) and even a few 38mm for Maples and U.S. Silver Dollars (also for certain silver crowns). Some oddballs come in handy too, especially 36mm (w/ ring) for 1st gen Libertads, Loonies and such. If you're ordering from APMEX and just need a few Air-Tites you can throw them on the order, but my favorite vendor for stocking up on supplies is Jake's.

agmom | 04-23-2009 10:02 AM
Re: Littleton "slabs" I appreciate the correction, Curmudgeonista, as well as the link! Do you (or anyone else) happen to know what size I'd need for the silver Philharmonic?

Curmudgeonista | 04-23-2009 12:20 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by agmom (Post 1690393) I appreciate the correction, Curmudgeonista, as well as the link! Do you (or anyone else) happen to know what size I'd need for the silver Philharmonic?
I think Silver Phils are 37mm. Same as Gold Phils. I have a couple of those in Air-Tites, but I don't think they were direct-fit type (can't remember and they're tucked away right now). It doesn't really matter, though, as the ring type Air-Tites are safe too.

Texan | 04-23-2009 05:11 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Quote:
Originally Posted by Curmudgeonista (Post 1690613) I think Silver Phils are 37mm. Same as Gold Phils. I have a couple of those in Air-Tites, but I don't think they were direct-fit type (can't remember and they're tucked away right now). It doesn't really matter, though, as the ring type Air-Tites are safe too.
They are 37mm. You can get the diameter for most of these coins at the APMEX website. After you click on the "more" button, scroll down and the diameter is listed.

Clawdia | 04-23-2009 05:39 PM
Re: Littleton "slabs" Thanks, guys.

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