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HistoryStudent | 09-02-2009 07:03 PM
US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping see I knew they was going to do that. Shoulda woulda coulda. Imagine when the price hits $2000 the UHR will be $3000 :111::111::111: To ensure the broadest and most fair product access, a household order limit of twenty-five (25) coins is currently in effect. The household order limit will be re-evaluated on a regular basis and the United States Mint will either extend, adjust or remove the limit as needed.

SirSilverOzzyyzzO | 09-02-2009 07:09 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Thank Gosh I ordered in time! :553: History Student, if you and I are still around on this website by the time one of these puppies sell for 5K. I will be sending you an ounce of Silver as a thank-you - Pinky & Boy Scout Honor Promise. I originally only bought one, but after reading your investigative reports I bought another one. By the way I am six foot three, ex tough guy, studying for my brown belt in Krav Maga; I like to hit and get hit, so don't let the Boy Scout and Pinky comment fool ya... Lol

HistoryStudent | 09-02-2009 07:22 PM
Please give it to your closest loved one http://www.golddealer.com/bullionpage.html The prices are really rising - like the PHOENIX. My guess GOLD this month $1150 for a coin Silver $20 for a silver eagle. :23_1_22: Kinda happy today i just received my second published novel in hardback.

Apocalypto | 09-02-2009 07:32 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Up she goes...

Master_Ho | 09-03-2009 12:49 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1900490) Up she goes...
Now, if we keep this to ourselves and no one posts any silly rockets and jinxs us..........this could well be the month "it"-starts! Ssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! :biggrin:

mick silver | 09-03-2009 12:53 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping i am glad i got mine when they first came out .............yahoooooooooooo

HistoryStudent | 09-03-2009 08:59 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1900966) Now, if we keep this to ourselves and no one posts any silly rockets and jinxs us..........this could well be the month "it"-starts! Ssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! :biggrin:
How do you post the crazy rockets? Just KIDDING.............. :111::111:

rodzm | 09-03-2009 09:18 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1901343) How do you post the crazy rockets? Just KIDDING.............. :111::111:
HM please stop talking about damn rockets. Rockets are nothing but a curse

TheSkeptic | 09-03-2009 10:29 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping I"m sure these coins are beautiful, but a ~ $350 premium? Give me a friggin' break. Give me a low premium 1 oz + 1/4 oz + steak dinner to celebrate for the same price.

CoinHunter53562 | 09-03-2009 10:36 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkeptic (Post 1901503) I"m sure these coins are beautiful, but a ~ $350 premium? Give me a friggin' break. Give me a low premium 1 oz + 1/4 oz + steak dinner to celebrate for the same price.
Same thoughts I had when I saw the thread title. Chit, you could get a one ounce gold coin and an additional 1/4 ouncer or even 3 1/10 ouncers with some smart shopping, and have a little left over for play money. 1.25>>>1.00 1.30>>>1.00 I don't get why people pay these huge premiums on them but I guess it's the part in me where I prefer more bang for my (worthless) buck.

hernancortes | 09-03-2009 10:52 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping 87,069 sold to date. Rare?

rodzm | 09-03-2009 10:54 AM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping People pay the premium because they like the coin. Perhaps some see it as a nice investment. Its a beautiful coin with a lot of history behind it. Think about it, the UHR was supposed to be made 100 years ago but due to the lack of technology it could not be made. Me i have two of them, one graded and one ungraded. Im happy with my purchase. If gold goes to say $1,500 how much will this coin go for ungraded. Imagine a MS70 First Strike or Early Release. $3k easily for the coin

CoinHunter53562 | 09-03-2009 12:26 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1901550) People pay the premium because they like the coin. Perhaps some see it as a nice investment. Its a beautiful coin with a lot of history behind it. Think about it, the UHR was supposed to be made 100 years ago but due to the lack of technology it could not be made. Me i have two of them, one graded and one ungraded. Im happy with my purchase. If gold goes to say $1,500 how much will this coin go for ungraded. Imagine a MS70 First Strike or Early Release. $3k easily for the coin
What if TSHTF? Do you think the average person will care if its an early release, a first strike, or slabbed? My guess is most will look at it as a 1 oz gold coin and nothing more. I'm saying there is anything wrong with collecting what you like, bu like I said earlier I prefer more for my money. I'm no 100 percent convinced that TSHTF will happen, but in the event that it does I would much rather have 1.25 or 1.30 net ounces raw over a slabbed earl release/1st strike 1 oz coin.

rodzm | 09-03-2009 12:39 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by CoinHunter53562 (Post 1901756) What if TSHTF? Do you think the average person will care if its an early release, a first strike, or slabbed? My guess is most will look at it as a 1 oz gold coin and nothing more. I'm saying there is anything wrong with collecting what you like, bu like I said earlier I prefer more for my money. I'm no 100 percent convinced that TSHTF will happen, but in the event that it does I would much rather have 1.25 or 1.30 net ounces raw over a slabbed earl release/1st strike 1 oz coin.
True that in worst case scenario people will not care if it is FS or Early release but it is better IMO to have variety than a lot of generic silver or gold. Some choose to have most bang for your buck but I would rather be varied with my stash

HistoryStudent | 09-03-2009 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1901372) HM please stop talking about damn rockets. Rockets are nothing but a curse
NO MORE FLAMING ROCKETS, NO MORE FLAMING ROCKETS - no MORE - I promise - now how do you spell ROCKETS? P.S. GOLD up to $993 and rising! LIKE A ROCKET! :36_3_12: Sorry MY wife thinks my MIDDLE name is TEASE! :signs14::111::111:

HistoryStudent | 09-03-2009 01:18 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by hernancortes (Post 1901543) 87,069 sold to date. Rare?
And here I thought they'd FIZZLE out at 70,000! These markets can always make me ASSUME (ASS out of ME) too much. :5_1_120::5_1_120:

TheSkeptic | 09-03-2009 01:26 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by CoinHunter53562 (Post 1901756) What if TSHTF? Do you think the average person will care if its an early release, a first strike, or slabbed? My guess is most will look at it as a 1 oz gold coin and nothing more. I'm saying there is anything wrong with collecting what you like, bu like I said earlier I prefer more for my money. I'm no 100 percent convinced that TSHTF will happen, but in the event that it does I would much rather have 1.25 or 1.30 net ounces raw over a slabbed earl release/1st strike 1 oz coin.
I guess it all boils down to whether certain things can/will keep their premium (especially a massive premium like that) in an environment of super high spot prices. I've been told that they will, but I still have my doubts. Example on a smaller scale - we bought a 2009 Lincoln Silver Dollar commemorative for around $10. It's 90% silver, and less than an ounce at that. But on eBay they're going for $65-75. So I put it on eBay. I'd rather take that money and buy 5 or 6 tarnished SAEs whose raw selling power won't run the risk of disappearing. I know I can get at least spot for each ounce, whereas the Lincoln might bring spot + $20 if silver shot way up and people were just desperately trying to grab as much raw physical as they could.

Twisted Avatar | 09-03-2009 01:35 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping They both have a place...... You should always get the most bang for your buck But there comes a time when you just want to pick something up cause you REALLY like it. With the zombie apocalspse breathing down our necks that is all the MORE reason to do it Come on guys ....... Live a little :ok: T

TheSkeptic | 09-03-2009 01:38 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping What I find so dumb about myself is that I cringe at paying virtually anything over spot for gold or silver.... yet I have no remorse whatsoever if I drop $500 at a strip club, or $150 for a dinner. I admit my own hypocrisy. :111:

HistoryStudent | 09-03-2009 01:38 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Bet the DARN UHR will be $1500 next week! :36_3_12:

Master_Ho | 09-03-2009 06:12 PM
Re: US Mint ups the UHR price $1339 plus shipping Quote:
Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1901550) People pay the premium because they like the coin. Perhaps some see it as a nice investment. Its a beautiful coin with a lot of history behind it. Think about it, the UHR was supposed to be made 100 years ago but due to the lack of technology it could not be made.
Not true - it WAS made and an AU example, of the few left, would run you about $850,000....and MS graded one sells in the millions...........the problem with the coins was that, in those days, gold and silver were sold in coins at banks, and the BANKERS bitched that, with the 3D effect, it wouldn't stack right. (Or as I jokingly tell my students, they made her tits too big!) So they flattened the coin - so it was bigger in diameter, smaller in height and so it would stack easily. Doing that they destroyed the impact of the 3D artwork Quote:
Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1901550) Me i have two of them, one graded and one ungraded. Im happy with my purchase. If gold goes to say $1,500 how much will this coin go for ungraded. Imagine a MS70 First Strike or Early Release. $3k easily for the coin
I think you will see GOLD hit over $3k a coin before we're done - and these could even sell for more than that, because they re-released it during a period (right now) when gold was higher than it had been for decades and people had very little extra spending money.....and we're in terribly tough times. Where I would have expected over 100,000 of these sold. I do not think we'lll top much over 90,000, if that.....and, over time, as more of the public sees and learns about the history of this coin, and learning no more will be made, demand will increase (most Americans know nothing of this coin - ask your friends, see if they know!) and therefore, so will the price. But I did not buy mine for those reasons - I bought mine cause, from the first time I saw a real one when I was 12 - I have always loved it! Cheers!

Master_Ho | 09-03-2009 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1901343) How do you post the crazy rockets? Just KIDDING.............. :111::111:
I am please, honored and all that other tommy-rot to tell you that I have NEVER EVER posted a rocket...................*l* Shot a few down in my time tho!

47Protons | 09-03-2009 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1901960) Bet the DARN UHR will be $1500 next week! :36_3_12:
According to the pricing schedule, the London gold fixing would need to average above $1,150 for about a week to set the price that high: http://catalog.usmint.gov/wcsstore/C...ldCoinGrid.pdf The note in the pricing schedule says the Mint's profit is about 15% of the price on average. The rest is cost of metal and manufacturing cost. Today's afternoon fixing was only $983.00, and that was the highest so far this week: http://www.lbma.org.uk/?area=stats&p.../2009dailygold So if the average goes up another $167 beyond today's fixing, your prediction will probably come true.

Master_Ho | 09-03-2009 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1901883) And here I thought they'd FIZZLE out at 70,000! These markets can always make me ASSUME (ASS out of ME) too much. :5_1_120::5_1_120:
That was my best guess too - and my dealer friends - but when they changed the limits national dealers bought hard and heavy to cash in and, in the process, destroyed a lot of the collectable value of the coin. Still always more collectors than coins to go around.......but it COULD have been worth so much more if not for the greed of those dealers. Either way, I didn't buy mine merely for investment as many of them have.

HistoryStudent | 09-03-2009 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1902623) That was my best guess too - and my dealer friends - but when they changed the limits national dealers bought hard and heavy to cash in and, in the process, destroyed a lot of the collectable value of the coin. Still always more collectors than coins to go around.......but it COULD have been worth so much more if not for the greed of those dealers. Either way, I didn't buy mine merely for investment as many of them have.
That GOES to prove that the GOVERNMENT can change the best made plans of MICE and MEN, okay? :ok: That being said I was just studing Steven Kennedy's work on GOLD EAGLE in re: Historical Review of the Gold Market - which is just a study of the K-wave in reality. I want to over-simplify it and say that I think the government is trying to change the WINTER we are in by printing the trillions they are to make it a PHONEY spring - because the results match up. That's why we can't figure out deflation or inflation because of the games they are playing with all the PIECES. Kinda like a crazy monopoly banker gone wild and giving everyone $500 bills when they pass go - and they are doing crazy things with the new money. OVER simplified of course - but even a slow wit can figure out my slow-witted (twit) response. Best wishes, HS :5_1_120::ok:

BoatingAccident | 09-03-2009 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1902553) Where I would have expected over 100,000 of these sold. I do not think we'lll top much over 90,000, if that.....and, over time, as more of the public sees and learns about the history of this coin, and learning no more will be made, demand will increase (most Americans know nothing of this coin - ask your friends, see if they know!) and therefore, so will the price
I was thinking the mint would like to see, and be prepared for, a mintage of around 100,000. Add to the fact that dealers purchased a bunch when the limit was raised, suggests the dealers see a good future value as well. Also, 100k really isn't much, for a coin minted for ONE year only...on a worldwide scale. Just Chinese investors could drive the prize was up. I only own one, and will never sell it. All other gold is just bullion. I think it's great to have at least one coin that has a chance to be worth more than just the spot price.

Master_Ho | 09-03-2009 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1902667) That GOES to prove that the GOVERNMENT can change the best made plans of MICE and MEN, okay? :ok: That being said I was just studing Steven Kennedy's work on GOLD EAGLE in re: Historical Review of the Gold Market - which is just a study of the K-wave in reality. I want to over-simplify it and say that I think the government is trying to change the WINTER we are in by printing the trillions they are to make it a PHONEY spring - because the results match up. That's why we can't figure out deflation or inflation because of the games they are playing with all the PIECES. Kinda like a crazy monopoly banker gone wild and giving everyone $500 bills when they pass go - and they are doing crazy things with the new money. OVER simplified of course - but even a slow wit can figure out my slow-witted (twit) response. Best wishes, HS :5_1_120::ok:
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