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Curio Bill | 08-07-2009 04:26 PM
Should UHR's be slabbed?? While pondering the pre-1933 posts, my ADD brain came up with the question "Should the new UHR gold coin be slabbed?? (I have heard that 24kt gold will "scratch at a harsh word") Or should it be left in the ultra cool box & just use huge amounts of daily self-restraint to prohibit fondling of said UHR?? Thanks, Bill

mick silver | 08-07-2009 04:33 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? i left mine in the box it came in , but a few here had there graded

HistoryStudent | 08-07-2009 05:05 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Yes and NO. :realmad: Yes if you have MORE THAN one - get one slabbed. No if you have only one -leave it in the box. I use a three to one ratio - two slabbed and four not - but that's just me. Anyway one can't beat the BOX, BOOK, BELL, and CANDLE; just kidding. :111::111::111::111:

Curio Bill | 08-07-2009 05:57 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1857449) Yes and NO. :realmad: Yes if you have MORE THAN one - get one slabbed. No if you have only one -leave it in the box. I use a three to one ratio - two slabbed and four not - but that's just me. Anyway one can't beat the BOX, BOOK, BELL, and CANDLE; just kidding. :111::111::111::111:
Pretend I'm the guy in the "Animal House" movie who says "Germans???"

CoinNut | 08-07-2009 06:09 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? If you have a membership already,with a grading firm(PCGS my choice),send it in. May not be worth if do not.Could get a "70"(Good profit) or "69" little above "raw"when time comes for resale.. It is protected in the capsule from mint. Sent mine in when they first came out,so don't know how good a fit that capsule is. It is personal choice,for and against. Am one of the "for".:yes:

Gordon Gekko | 08-07-2009 06:30 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? 2 Attachment(s) Do it, do it.

Curio Bill | 08-07-2009 07:08 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1857579) Do it, do it.
I'm not sure how to ask this, but since the UHR is a smaller coin, Is it as "impressive" a coin as a slabbed Saint??

Gordon Gekko | 08-07-2009 07:12 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Curio Bill (Post 1857612) I'm not sure how to ask this, but since the UHR is a smaller coin, Is it as "impressive" a coin as a slabbed Saint??
"Impressive"??? It is awe-inspiring. A true piece of historical art. The colors, the lines, the high relief, etc. all leave your eyes lethargic after looking at this coin.

HistoryStudent | 08-07-2009 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1857579) Do it, do it.
There you go showing OFF again... Tee Tee:36_3_12::111: First Stike an all --- MS70 -- enough to make me GASP!

HistoryStudent | 08-07-2009 11:28 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Curio Bill (Post 1857612) I'm not sure how to ask this, but since the UHR is a smaller coin, Is it as "impressive" a coin as a slabbed Saint??
America for the first 55 years only had that size of coin - an EAGLE. The original 1907 coin made by Saint Guadens is the same coin one of 100 best coins - as a PATTERN coin. Look up pattern coin and search 1907 $20 J-1917 P-2007 2 known in the Smithsonian That's the Papa coin.:wink:

HistoryStudent | 08-07-2009 11:31 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? http://www.smithsonianlegacies.si.ed...tion.cfm?ID=16

Ag_man | 08-08-2009 03:10 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? If you've got an average strike, wouldn't you be in a better position for resale in the original packaging? I finally took the plunge last night, buying one UHR. After thinking about it today, I probably should have bought a second, as I can't see myself ever selling the first one, definitely heirloom material!

livtocruz | 08-08-2009 04:55 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko (Post 1857618) "Impressive"??? It is awe-inspiring. A true piece of historical art. The colors, the lines, the high relief, etc. all leave your eyes lethargic after looking at this coin.
Kind of like watching a HD TV for the first time. :36_1_34:

livtocruz | 08-08-2009 04:58 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1857911) http://www.smithsonianlegacies.si.ed...tion.cfm?ID=16
On a secondary note,,, of course it would be a donation by a President's grandson. Wonder what today's value is??? On another note, thanks for the website.

Ragnarok | 08-08-2009 07:37 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Whatever you decide to do, DO NOT fondle it, DO NOT touch it, DO NOT attempt to remove it from whatever holder it may be in. 24K scratches at the drop of a hat, and no, you don't want to risk dropping it either! :36_1_25: R.

HistoryStudent | 08-08-2009 10:42 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 1858730) On a secondary note,,, of course it would be a donation by a President's grandson. Wonder what today's value is??? On another note, thanks for the website.
they say around 2 MILLION in the book. Now: but with OBAMA printing that will easily double this tear. :yes:

Ag_man | 08-20-2009 10:43 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? The UPS guy just delivered mine about a 1/2 hour ago! I have to say that I'm impressed! Definite heirloom material, the packaging itself is impressive. I can see what people are saying about the capsule, the coin does rattle around a bit. Even so, the packaging adds a real cool factor with the coin, if it was slabbed, I think it would look like "just another slab". I really think there's going to be some major appreciation on the UHR. I could easily see a 100% increase in several years.

HistoryStudent | 08-20-2009 02:01 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Hopefully it is like the rest shipped NOW - way more * P R O O F L I K E * Next year that MAY mean big BUCKOS! :23_30_104::23_30_104: However, like the MIRROR in SCHREK: "The US dollar may not be worth too much next year."

Master_Ho | 08-21-2009 01:03 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1877815) Hopefully it is like the rest shipped NOW - way more * P R O O F L I K E * Next year that MAY mean big BUCKOS! :23_30_104::23_30_104: However, like the MIRROR in SCHREK: "The US dollar may not be worth too much next year."
My last one arrived today and, my goodness, it IS a lot nicer......I should sell the first ones and get more of these! *g* Seriously, I got one to keep and this is going to be that one!! The US dollar? Is that old thing still kicking..........I thought it was LONG dead!

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 08-21-2009 05:27 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1878848) The US dollar? Is that old thing still kicking..........I thought it was LONG dead!
Nope it is still alive. For how long?.......Nobody knows. I do not plan to get a UHR.......It is beyond my "pay" grade. :bawling:

Master_Ho | 08-22-2009 12:23 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawJoseyWalesJr (Post 1878956) Nope it is still alive. For how long?.......Nobody knows. I do not plan to get a UHR.......It is beyond my "pay" grade. :bawling:
Well, I broke a "guideline" and sold an ounce of gold.........something with an old dead leaf, I think............and made up the difference in cash. See, I think if I am going to hold gold coins - the more variety, the more fun! But it would be one of the last coins I would sell if I had to - its truly gorgeous - especially under a loop! Cheers!

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 08-22-2009 06:01 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1880384) Well, I broke a "guideline" and sold an ounce of gold.........something with an old dead leaf, I think............and made up the difference in cash. See, I think if I am going to hold gold coins - the more variety, the more fun! But it would be one of the last coins I would sell if I had to - its truly gorgeous - especially under a loop! Cheers!
I think I also broke that "guideline" and sold a 1/10 oz gold coin and a few SAE's and Engelhard silver bullion and bought some 1-oz '70's silver art bars at a coin show with the proceeds because that is what I love to collect. In addition, I also had some FRN's saved up for this coin show to also buy some '70's silver art bars with. I love my '70's silver art bar collection and it adds variety to my silver stack. I do not think that you did a bad thing by selling an oz of gold in order to help get the UHR. The important thing that matters IMO is that you are happy with the UHR. It is a good thing to buy what you like when you have the chance to buy it. I am speaking as a collector when I say that.

Master_Ho | 08-22-2009 07:26 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawJoseyWalesJr (Post 1880565) I think I also broke that "guideline" and sold a 1/10 oz gold coin and a few SAE's and Engelhard silver bullion and bought some 1-oz '70's silver art bars at a coin show with the proceeds because that is what I love to collect. In addition, I also had some FRN's saved up for this coin show to also buy some '70's silver art bars with. I love my '70's silver art bar collection and it adds variety to my silver stack. I do not think that you did a bad thing by selling an oz of gold in order to help get the UHR. The important thing that matters IMO is that you are happy with the UHR. It is a good thing to buy what you like when you have the chance to buy it. I am speaking as a collector when I say that.
And speaking as someone who tries to walk that invisible, fine-line between "investor" and " collector"........ (but thinking hmmmmm, when this is all over, might use the bullion to invest in some more numismatics, as well as other things - so a little over-balanced on the numismatic side maybe! *w*)........... I have no "icks" at ALL about what I did - one MUST enjoy what one collects (and after you have a couple of any one gold coin its fun to look at other gold coins, like having more than one recipe......or record)........and the price difference between it and an eagle would not break me. I did the same thing when I bought my gold Dragons from the Australian series..........never once wondered if I did the right thing. ((While my heart might be a bit more numismatic, my assets are, roughly, a mere 20% numismatic.)) On the other hand, some of the dragon coins have no real value at all - but collecting doesn't have to be about money, as I am sure you know. But its great fun to pull them out now and then, music in the background, and go thru them ......sort of travel the world, see some lovely coins (beyond the U.S. ones)........but also to read and learn about them, the people, the history (bullion has no history per se). I do not know anyone who does not seem to enjoy looking at coins, and I have had little coin shows for my students.......they ask me to show them more........ But the more I learn about what I enjoy collecting (especially the silver dollars) the more I am beginning to appreciate others and their collections, like pennies and dimes and stuff - things I do not collect.................... If I might share one short story, collector to collector......... I have one dealer who is a friend and who has given me the very best deals on things. One day this young Asian man was there in the shop, going thru 5 MS-65's (same coin, I forget what, probably St Gaudens) with a loop for an HOUR trying to decide which one to buy. ((I still think thats a bit obsessive, but I'll continue)). That was three years ago.....when my attitude was "Hey, they are all the same coin in the same grade, pick one and get on with life!" Now, three years later, my dealer friends ask ME my opinion on grading and strike.........I didn't notice at first, but I had "changed"! ((God bless you Q. Daivd Bowers and others!)) NOW, if I could see that same young man again, I would tell him how I came to appreciate that afternoon. Reading, reading, reading.......... ............and, as always, the more we read, the more we realize we do not know. By the way - what do YOU collect? Enjoy the weekend! Cheers!

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 08-22-2009 07:38 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1880597) And speaking as someone who tries to walk that invisible, fine-line between "investor" and " collector"........ (but thinking hmmmmm, when this is all over, might use the bullion to invest in some more numismatics, as well as other things - so a little over-balanced on the numismatic side maybe! *w*)........... I have no "icks" at ALL about what I did - one MUST enjoy what one collects (and after you have a couple of any one gold coin its fun to look at other gold coins, like having more than one recipe......or record)........and the price difference between it and an eagle would not break me. I did the same thing when I bought my gold Dragons from the Australian series..........never once wondered if I did the right thing. ((While my heart might be a bit more numismatic, my assets are, roughly, a mere 20% numismatic.)) On the other hand, some of the dragon coins have no real value at all - but collecting doesn't have to be about money, as I am sure you know. But its great fun to pull them out now and then, music in the background, and go thru them ......sort of travel the world, see some lovely coins (beyond the U.S. ones)........but also to read and learn about them, the people, the history (bullion has no history per se). I do not know anyone who does not seem to enjoy looking at coins, and I have had little coin shows for my students.......they ask me to show them more........ But the more I learn about what I enjoy collecting (especially the silver dollars) the more I am beginning to appreciate others and their collections, like pennies and dimes and stuff - things I do not collect.................... If I might share one short story, collector to collector......... I have one dealer who is a friend and who has given me the very best deals on things. One day this young Asian man was there in the shop, going thru 5 MS-65's (same coin, I forget what, probably St Gaudens) with a loop for an HOUR trying to decide which one to buy. ((I still think thats a bit obsessive, but I'll continue)). That was three years ago.....when my attitude was "Hey, they are all the same coin in the same grade, pick one and get on with life!" Now, three years later, my dealer friends ask ME my opinion on grading and strike.........I didn't notice at first, but I had "changed"! ((God bless you Q. Daivd Bowers and others!)) NOW, if I could see that same young man again, I would tell him how I came to appreciate that afternoon. Reading, reading, reading.......... ............and, as always, the more we read, the more we realize we do not know. By the way - what do YOU collect? Enjoy the weekend! Cheers!
I love to collect the 1-oz silver art bars that were minted in the decade of the 1970's. I like collecting '70's silver art bars from old private mints such as Madison, USSC, Mother-Lode, and Hamilton to name a few. There are not as many in existence because of the big early '80's silver melt when silver went to $50/oz.

argentos | 08-22-2009 07:42 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 1858723) Kind of like watching a HD TV for the first time. :36_1_34:
There is a thread somewhere on here about what coins peeps like to look at. I really cannot see any difference between HD and normal satellite TV, whether I've got my glasses on or not. I suppose that younger people with 20/20 vision get more pleasure from looking at their coins whereas older codgers like me enjoy a fondle. Might do a poll on this if I can work out the right Q and As.

Master_Ho | 08-22-2009 05:22 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawJoseyWalesJr (Post 1880603) I love to collect the 1-oz silver art bars that were minted in the decade of the 1970's. I like collecting '70's silver art bars from old private mints such as Madison, USSC, Mother-Lode, and Hamilton to name a few. There are not as many in existence because of the big early '80's silver melt when silver went to $50/oz.
SURE! I used to collect them too - and still have a few......but I sold a lot of it when silver went high, and re-invested in gold and some rainbow Morgans. I think some of those art bars are amazing and I am surprised there isn't more actual "collecting" of them.......at least, I know few people who do, a couple kicking around here - but this place is HARDLY normal! *l*

HistoryStudent | 08-22-2009 06:50 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? :wink: Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawJoseyWalesJr (Post 1878956) Nope it is still alive. For how long?.......Nobody knows. I do not plan to get a UHR.......It is beyond my "pay" grade. :bawling:
I'm praying you get one to love, honor, and cherish. :wink:

HistoryStudent | 08-22-2009 06:52 PM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1880384) Well, I broke a "guideline" and sold an ounce of gold.........something with an old dead leaf, I think............and made up the difference in cash. See, I think if I am going to hold gold coins - the more variety, the more fun! But it would be one of the last coins I would sell if I had to - its truly gorgeous - especially under a loop! Cheers!
I once screwed up and sold 10 ounces of PLATINUM in EAGLES at $400 plus a few bucks an ounce. :dontknow::shot::shot::shot::hahaha::yes:

Master_Ho | 08-23-2009 03:07 AM
Re: Should UHR's be slabbed?? Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1881221) I once screwed up and sold 10 ounces of PLATINUM in EAGLES at $400 plus a few bucks an ounce. :dontknow::shot::shot::shot::hahaha::yes:
In 1997 I screwed up and let a clerk talk me into buying platinum when I "knew" I shoud be buying gold - but he was insistant and I let him sway me.......at $380 and ounce. Bought 10 ounces. Stick them in a tube - never thought too much about them till 2005........discovered how much platinum was. THEN I showed my dealer who said - "You know 1997 was the first year of this coin.......and yours were never out of the tube.......... They are all MS 69's and 68's...........some premium on those." So, apparently, you and I are connected by some cosmic force - a yin - yang Tao thing........... All I can say is - thank you for your help in making my platinum coins what they are today!!!!! And thanks for having a sense of humor and know, while the story is true, I am just teasing you! Cheers!

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