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Yenomsi | 09-22-2008 11:48 AM
Silver maples starting to tarnish Took out some of my silver maples today, they are in plastic flaps. They're starting to tarnish with a cloudy white but mostly clear substance that almost looks like they had a bit of clear liquid spilled on them and then it dried up. They're kept in a dry place, though it gets very humid here. It's kind of odd, because I have some SAEs in similar flaps stored in the same location and they do not have this crap on them. Any ideas on how to prevent this? I would put up a picture but my camera is busted atm.

Lou337 | 10-08-2008 04:35 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Silver turns brownish over time. Use toothpaste to bring back the silver color.

Twisted Avatar | 10-08-2008 04:43 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish 1 Attachment(s) It is beginng to oxidize if you let it go you depending on how it tones (rainbow being favored) some of those fetch BIG bucks.

skilsaw | 10-08-2008 05:39 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou337 (Post 1343600) Silver turns brownish over time. Use toothpaste to bring back the silver color.
I don't think I'd clean coins - that actually can lower the value. Especially since toothpaste is an abrasive.

jedemdasseine | 10-08-2008 11:03 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Toss in some silica gel packets or some other kind of desiccant. Read up on how to prevent silver from tarnishing. And don't confuse tarnishing with toning. DYODD.

GodWeTrust | 10-08-2008 11:24 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish No toothpaste!

Mike_Templar | 10-09-2008 09:37 AM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by Yenomsi (Post 1306050) Took out some of my silver maples today, they are in plastic flaps. They're starting to tarnish with a cloudy white but mostly clear substance that almost looks like they had a bit of clear liquid spilled on them and then it dried up. They're kept in a dry place, though it gets very humid here. It's kind of odd, because I have some SAEs in similar flaps stored in the same location and they do not have this crap on them. Any ideas on how to prevent this? I would put up a picture but my camera is busted atm.
This is why I buy SAE's over Maples. I haven't thus far had this happen to an SAE.

SimpleIsGood229 | 05-20-2009 07:14 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish It could be the slips you're storing them in. The clear, soft plastic slips come in two varieties: a softer one that contains, IIRC, PVC which leaves crap on coins; and a slightly less ductile, more brittle variety which doesn't. I remember this from my active coin collecting days.

digger2 | 05-20-2009 08:51 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by SimpleIsGood229 (Post 1731196) It could be the slips you're storing them in. The clear, soft plastic slips come in two varieties: a softer one that contains, IIRC, PVC which leaves crap on coins; and a slightly less ductile, more brittle variety which doesn't. I remember this from my active coin collecting days.
After reading this thread and another one I checked my stack and yes, it seems to be a specific problem of the maples. This is not the usual tarnish but some strange white coating that develops over time. I've found some small specs even on originally wrapped 1992 coins but the 2008 batch was especially hit. The silver might still be there but the beauty of the coin is gone...

SimpleIsGood229 | 05-20-2009 09:03 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by digger2 (Post 1731329) After reading this thread and another one I checked my stack and yes, it seems to be a specific problem of the maples. This is not the usual tarnish but some strange white coating that develops over time. I've found some small specs even on originally wrapped 1992 coins but the 2008 batch was especially hit. The silver might still be there but the beauty of the coin is gone...
Oh, okay. That's interesting. I don't think it's that big a deal, since silver Leafs are mainly just for the bullion content. I mean, I would buy ASE's if I wanted a pretty coin--but that's just me.

rodzm | 05-21-2009 12:28 AM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish All my 2008 Maples are ruined with these "milk" spots. Im done with them

Jekyll7 | 05-21-2009 02:14 AM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish My thanks to the OP - I thought it was something in my environment causing the spots, I didn't realize it was so common.

MoMoney | 05-21-2009 03:00 AM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish NGC has a company that professionally cleans & conserves your coins called NCS. Please check that out, ok? :wink:

TomD | 05-21-2009 07:18 AM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish I'd say clean the things if you want, it's bullion. It has to be the PVC plastic holders. I've got around 100 maples from scattered years from the 80's till now and all but a couple in the original mint plastic sleeves, no tarnish or toning on any of them.

wsykes | 05-21-2009 01:27 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish I have a bunch of silver maples with no spots or narnish at all. But i put mine in airtites as soon as i get them... GL

painthappy | 05-21-2009 01:51 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish I've always wanted to get some sliver maples, but after so many recent issues of white spots and what not from FAR too many people, I'm sticking with the ASE's for now.

BoatingAccident | 05-21-2009 04:44 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by jedemdasseine (Post 1344556) Toss in some silica gel packets or some other kind of desiccant. Read up on how to prevent silver from tarnishing. And don't confuse tarnishing with toning. DYODD.
How can you tell the difference between tarnishing and toning? I store my maples in the mint tube. No milk spots, but I do see a ring of haze almost forming around the edges. It's bullion, I'm not worried too much about it, but was just wondering it it's toning, or tarnishing.

HistoryStudent | 05-21-2009 05:11 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1731586) All my 2008 Maples are ruined with these "milk" spots. Im done with them
Send 'em to me. :111::111::565::5_1_120::getdown::banana::wavey::b anana::111:

HistoryStudent | 05-21-2009 05:18 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1731786) I'd say clean the things if you want, it's bullion. It has to be the PVC plastic holders. I've got around 100 maples from scattered years from the 80's till now and all but a couple in the original mint plastic sleeves, no tarnish or toning on any of them.
I bought a bunch of old 100 ounce bars in 1999 for .25 cents below spot. THEY were filthy dirty BLACK BLACK BLACK. I bought a jar of Blue Magic at Pep Boys and spent a few hours getting my old white underware rags reallly black with silver TARNISH. Gosh - those were under $400.00 a bar. Wish they were $4,000.00 now!:wink::36_1_28::111:

TomD | 05-21-2009 06:35 PM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1732651) I bought a bunch of old 100 ounce bars in 1999 for .25 cents below spot. THEY were filthy dirty BLACK BLACK BLACK. I bought a jar of Blue Magic at Pep Boys and spent a few hours getting my old white underware rags reallly black with silver TARNISH. Gosh - those were under $400.00 a bar. Wish they were $4,000.00 now!:wink::36_1_28::111:
Cheapest of those I bought was in early 2005 for about $675. Sounds cheap now. But, yeah, take the polish to them, no problem. Some of those Englehards got sort of nasty but 10 minutes with an old sock and some metal polish= instant silver porn.

Jekyll7 | 05-25-2009 02:41 AM
Re: Silver maples starting to tarnish Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1732651) I bought a bunch of old 100 ounce bars in 1999 for .25 cents below spot. THEY were filthy dirty BLACK BLACK BLACK. I bought a jar of Blue Magic at Pep Boys and spent a few hours getting my old white underware rags reallly black with silver TARNISH. Gosh - those were under $400.00 a bar. Wish they were $4,000.00 now!:wink::36_1_28::111:
I remember those prices HS. Funny how psychology works - it was so cheap that nobody wanted it. Silver Maples were getting close to having a higher face value than intrinsic value! I also remember wondering "What's this rhodium stuff", and is it really worth $500 an ounce? LOL Never did I think rhodium could go to $10,000 an ounce.

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