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twinkle | 05-01-2007 05:26 PM
manx 1990 penny black gold coin 1 Attachment(s) hi,i'm new to the site so please allow for my ignorance in coin matters.i recently came across a 1990,manx penny black crown,it is in solid gold i believe,and went to the reference library to see if it was in any books,but no luck! so i wonder if any peeps on these boards could give me an idea of the specification of this coin please,and value if possible,i believe it is one of 1000 minted,thank you,twinkle

Wyldwil | 05-01-2007 05:38 PM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin Hello Twinkle. Sucks when you think you have gold, but don't. Cool coin though... Quick search revealed this:http://cgi.ebay.com/Isle-of-Man-1990...QQcmdZViewItem http://www.govmint.com/countrylistin...nnyblkblu.aspx ....hell, maybe yours is gold, what do I know? Have fun, and welcome!

mozkill | 05-01-2007 05:45 PM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin hmm... meth addicts stealing from meth addicts... i love how they say "i recently came across this coin"... in that case, we should assume it is stolen, right?

Big_Rob | 05-01-2007 07:15 PM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin This is what you have. http://www.collectibleamerica.com/im...00/1801803.jpg It is a repro, this one here is sterling silver. http://www.collectibleamerica.com/pr...Q_pn_E_1801803 59 bucks at the Washington Mint

twinkle | 05-02-2007 04:29 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin 1 Attachment(s) hi,the coin is "solid gold",not a repro!! aquired, as in passed down!! the pobjoy mint strike all isle-of-man coins as far as i'm aware,i dont know if this is .999 gold or ? any more views?thanks all,twinkle. [this is the obverse of coin]

Wyldwil | 05-02-2007 08:44 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin If the coin were gold...it would say so on the coin. If the coin were silver.....it would say so on the coin. If it says neither, you are SOL. Sorry.

Big_Rob | 05-02-2007 09:30 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin It looks like hes right about the gold. Its a 1990 half ounce Manx gold crown. http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/isleofman.html

Wyldwil | 05-02-2007 10:36 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 593440) It looks like hes right about the gold.
Big_Rob, thanks for not adding the word "dumbass" to the end of above quote.:wavey:

Big_Rob | 05-02-2007 10:56 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 593509) Big_Rob, thanks for not adding the word "dumbass" to the end of above quote.:wavey:
Heh, I couldn't do that because I thought it was a silver coin from the Washington mint. The Pobjoy mint dosnt even have it listed.

twinkle | 05-03-2007 03:04 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 593397) If the coin were gold...it would say so on the coin. If the coin were silver.....it would say so on the coin. If it says neither, you are SOL. Sorry.
sorry but as big rob points out [taxfreegold] has these in the half crown size,mine is a full crown,and more info the weight is 31.1 grm's the diameter is 38.5mm and it's approximately 2.5mm thick.thinki'm on a winner here? twinkle

Wyldwil | 05-03-2007 08:47 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin When I have a coin that may/or may not be anything....I bring it to my trusted local metals guy. One glance, all it takes. Good luck .

TomD | 05-03-2007 10:35 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkle (Post 594533) sorry but as big rob points out [taxfreegold] has these in the half crown size,mine is a full crown,and more info the weight is 31.1 grm's the diameter is 38.5mm and it's approximately 2.5mm thick.thinki'm on a winner here? twinkle
Are you sure of the dimensions? Your coin would have to be .999 because the weight is spot on 1 troy oz; .92 coins weigh another couple of grams. If you are right about the dimensions, the coin is too big by far to be just 1 troy oz of .999. Check out this website, it gives the dimensions and weights of the major coins. Yours isn't listed but coins of all sizes and purities are. Notice that your coin is very dimensionally similar to a Mexican 50 Peso piece. But a 50 Peso is 1.2 troy oz of .900 gold. A similar Isle of Manx coin, a 1 oz .999 Cat, has a similar thickness, at 2.6 mm, but it is much smaller in diameter at 32.7 mm. Your coin can't be the size you state, be .999 gold and weigh 31.1 grams on the nose. Something is off. Check the dimensions again. http://www.onlygold.com/TutorialPage...eenVersion.htm If your dimensions are correct and the coin is .999 and using the cat as a reference, your coin would weigh 31.1*(38.5/32.7)^2*2.5/2.6= 41.45 grams= 1.33 troy oz. I will say one thing for sure, that is a beautiful coin.

twinkle | 05-03-2007 10:53 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 594838) Are you sure of the dimensions? Your coin would have to be .999 because the weight is spot on 1 troy oz; .92 coins weigh another couple of grams. If you are right about the dimensions, the coin is too big by far to be just 1 troy oz of .999. Check out this website, it gives the dimensions and weights of the major coins. Yours isn't listed but coins of all sizes and purities are. Notice that your coin is very dimensionally similar to a Mexican 50 Peso piece. But a 50 Peso is 1.2 troy oz of .900 gold. A similar Isle of Manx coin, a 1 oz .999 Cat, has a similar thickness, at 2.6 mm, but it is much smaller in diameter at 32.7 mm. Your coin can't be the size you state, be .999 gold and weigh 31.1 grams on the nose. Something is off. Check the dimensions again. http://www.onlygold.com/TutorialPage...eenVersion.htm If your dimensions are correct and the coin is .999 and using the cat as a reference, your coin would weigh 31.1*(38.5/32.7)^2*2.5/2.6= 41.45 grams= 1.33 troy oz. I will say one thing for sure, that is a beautiful coin.
sorry about the thickness size it should be 1.5mmapprox,not 2.5mm, onlygold.com deal in all coins,but i think these are all what is known as bullion coins,this manx penny black is described as a "commemorative" coin,and yes thank you it is a beautiful coin,twinkle

twinkle | 05-10-2007 07:20 AM
Re: manx 1990 penny black gold coin A SPECTACULAR 1990 ONE CROWN COIN FROM THE ISLE OF MAN. IT IS MADE OF FINE GOLD AND IS BLACKENED IN THE CENTRE TO HILIGHT THE PENNY BLACK WHICH IT IS COMMEMORATING. THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST SPECTACULAR LARGE GOLD COINS THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN. THERE IS A VERY SMALL ISSUE (JUST 1000 ESTIMATED BY THE WORLD COIN CATALOGUE), MAKING THIS A VERY SCARCE COIN. IT WEIGHS APPROXIMATELY 31 GRAMS AND IS 38.5MM DIAMETER. ON TODAYS (8TH may) PRICE IT HAS APPROXIMATELY �337 WORTH OF GOLD IN IT. THIS COIN WILL APPEAL TO THE INVESTOR AND COLLECTOR ALIKE. IT IS IN UNCIRCULATED CONDITION this info came from i-o-m treasury,so it looks a damn good investment,only ONE THOUSAND struck,thanks for all replies,twinkle

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