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GardensGold&Guns | 12-29-2009 04:43 PM
Guys busted for selling fake gold maples http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200..._lawsui_1.html The three men were accused in September of trying to sell the fake gold coins at a jewelry store in Kinnelon, authorities said. Bell, 57, of Hillside, William Gary, 52, of Scotch Plains, and his brother, Gerald Gary, 55, also known as Hakeem Shaheed, of the Sicklerville section of Winslow Township in Camden County, were charged in September with theft, theft-by-deception and conspiracy to commit robbery at a store in Kinnelon, authorities said.

FeS2 | 12-29-2009 05:11 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples As a Canadian, I am glad they got caught in New Jersey. In Canada we just catch and release, they will do serious time in the states.

andial | 12-29-2009 05:13 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples I hope they throw the book at them.

FeS2 | 12-29-2009 05:23 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Were they tungsten?

Irons | 12-29-2009 09:06 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Quote:
Originally Posted by FeS2 (Post 2099490) Were they tungsten?
If they were a they probably would have passed the scale test, and possibly even the calipers if I understand the density of tungston correctly.:realmad:

Buyingsilvers | 12-29-2009 09:08 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples they wouldn't have passed the "bend the maple in half" test. :36_1_25:

livtocruz | 12-29-2009 10:21 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Quote:
Originally Posted by FeS2 (Post 2099474) As a Canadian, I am glad they got caught in New Jersey. In Canada we just catch and release, they will do serious time in the states.
Nah, here in the states our game laws are the same. We catch, we release, and then they swim upstream. To Canada. :504:

Ragnarok | 12-29-2009 11:10 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples ..."and his brother, Gerald Gary, 55, also known as Hakeem Shaheed'... WTF? :confused_m: I wonder if the authorities also found the stamping press/dies, or if the bozos got the fakes somewhere else. R.

platinumdude | 12-29-2009 11:19 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Quote:
Originally Posted by Irons (Post 2099772) If they were a they probably would have passed the scale test, and possibly even the calipers if I understand the density of tungston correctly.:realmad:
I haven't heard of fake gold coins using tungsten.

Aussie | 12-29-2009 11:46 PM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumdude (Post 2099981) I haven't heard of fake gold coins using tungsten.
Me either. I may be very naive, but I always assumed that coins were far harder to fake than bars. I look at some of the coins that I own like Kangaroos and Philharmonics and they are so intricate and perfectly made that surely someone with a back yard foundry could not copy them? Surey a fake would be a pretty lumpy alternative to anyone with a knowledgeable eye?

harper | 12-30-2009 01:07 AM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples would tungsten coin pass the 'ring' sound test?

FeS2 | 12-30-2009 01:37 AM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples :banana:tungsten would definitely break teeth!

Irons | 12-30-2009 06:25 AM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Quote:
Originally Posted by FeS2 (Post 2100142) :banana:tungsten would definitely break teeth!
As soon as I heard about the tungston in gold story I swam to the bottom of the lake and bit up all of the coins and bars. They look like crap now but I'm pretty sure they are gold!:biggrin:

jellydonut | 12-30-2009 07:03 AM
Re: Guys busted for selling fake gold maples Quote:
Originally Posted by harper (Post 2100112) would tungsten coin pass the 'ring' sound test?
I don't get the 'ring' test. My Norwegian fiat coins ring just as fine as my gold coins. Euros, on the other hand, are completely silent. I guess it's a different base metal alloy in those..

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