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AV8R | 12-02-2008 02:55 AM
Low mintages on W mint GAE New member here. Been a long time collector of US coins. I have turned my attention to acquiring the W minted fractional GAE. Both proof and the burnished coins of 2006-2008. The low mintage numbers, and no more coming out of the mint might be an opportunity for some price appreciation in the near future. Question: Anyone know of an online resource where the latest mintage numbers can be seen?

EireGoBragh | 12-02-2008 11:07 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE The Mint's Web-Site

Manager Mr | 12-02-2008 11:35 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE kind of hard to find at us-mint web site, but I hope this helps http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/...ales&year=2008 http://www.usmint.gov//mint_programs...ageTotals#2007

hernancortes | 12-12-2008 01:33 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Numismaster.com. Just type "mint stats" in the search field. They update weekly. And yes, the 08 unc-w's are definitely worth the current premium... not making anymore and the fractionals will be discontinued. Current mintages are very low and will likely settle out low.

hernancortes | 12-12-2008 02:24 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE http://numismaster.com/images/upload...lemint1223.jpg heres the latest mint report

Az Ag | 12-12-2008 05:24 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by hernancortes (Post 1462642) Numismaster.com. Just type "mint stats" in the search field. They update weekly. And yes, the 08 unc-w's are definitely worth the current premium... not making anymore and the fractionals will be discontinued. Current mintages are very low and will likely settle out low.
Sr. Cortez, are you talking about the search field at the US Mint website? When I type in "mint stats" at Mint website, I don't get anything close to what you show. Could you give a little more guidance please? Thanks, Az Ag

hernancortes | 12-12-2008 05:52 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE 1. go to numismaster.com 2. click news & articles 3. find the search field, enter 'mint stats' (new mint stats are usually entered every thursday)

Clawdia | 12-12-2008 08:43 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE I was trying to find the numbers for the 2006-W GAEs - any ideas where those would be available? At the Numi site, all I can find are 2007/2008.

Az Ag | 12-13-2008 12:00 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by hernancortes (Post 1463156) 1. go to numismaster.com 2. click news & articles 3. find the search field, enter 'mint stats' (new mint stats are usually entered every thursday)
Wow, good stuff. Thanks :36_1_32v:

Clawdia | 12-13-2008 07:14 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE So, I just thought I'd try again . . . anybody know where to find mint stats for the 2006 W burnished gold fractionals?

j-son | 12-13-2008 08:09 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1464443) So, I just thought I'd try again . . . anybody know where to find mint stats for the 2006 W burnished gold fractionals?
http://acoins.com/2006w.html

j-son | 12-13-2008 08:37 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE anyone think much of this one>? http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...egory_rn=13238

Clawdia | 12-13-2008 08:58 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Thanks so much - just what I was looking for! I've had my eye on that 8/8 set - don't know about the numanistic value potential, but I sure would like to have one.

j-son | 12-13-2008 11:20 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1464550) Thanks so much - just what I was looking for! I've had my eye on that 8/8 set - don't know about the numanistic value potential, but I sure would like to have one.
not sure either but the packaging looks nice. the packaging on the first spouse coins is nice too.

hernancortes | 12-15-2008 11:00 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1464499) http://acoins.com/2006w.html
From the link: Historic Low Mintage � The official mintage figures indicate that these American Eagles have the lowest mintages of any U.S. Mint modern four coin gold set in history- only 10,500 complete sets were struck. Incorrect--- there were only 8706 Gold Eagle Proof Sets minted in '95 http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/...oof#salesTable

AV8R | 12-16-2008 08:29 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE To the members who have contributed info to this thread, Thank You, Seems like U.S. Mint production numbers are impossible for me to find on the web in one, easy access, comprehensive data base. The mint does not break the numbers down into West Point Unc or Proof totals. There's the Red Book, but when the 2009 edition comes out, the mintage numbers for GAE's will probably stop at 2006. My take on the 2006-08 GAE W mint fractionals is they are going to be a winner, no matter which way you turn it.

Twisted Avatar | 12-16-2008 09:03 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE It is all going to be priceless when the entire mint gets mothballed in late 2010 You heard it on GIM first. T

hernancortes | 12-16-2008 01:49 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Here are the latest mint stats again, numbers obtained in advance of thursdays mint report from a member of another forum, always reliable... <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left width="20%"></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width="80%"></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2>http://forums.collectors.com/i/dominant/block.gif 12/16/08 1OZ .5 OZ .25 OZ .1 OZ 4 SETS PROOF PLATINUM EAGLES 2432 1056 1293 3052 2616 UNC-W PLATINUM EAGLES 1926 1257 1778 2485 2158 PROOF BUFFS 11640 4654 6003 11361 7931 UNC-W BUFFS 3150 3295 4108 12626 6563 ASE 430556+ 37831 UNC-W GOLD EAGLES 4463 1601 2250 6911 1918 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

j-son | 12-16-2008 02:10 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by hernancortes (Post 1468665) Here are the latest mint stats again, numbers obtained in advance of thursdays mint report from a member of another forum, always reliable... <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left width="20%"></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width="80%"></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2>http://forums.collectors.com/i/dominant/block.gif 12/16/08 1OZ .5 OZ .25 OZ .1 OZ 4 SETS PROOF PLATINUM EAGLES 2432 1056 1293 3052 2616 UNC-W PLATINUM EAGLES 1926 1257 1778 2485 2158 PROOF BUFFS 11640 4654 6003 11361 7931 UNC-W BUFFS 3150 3295 4108 12626 6563 ASE 430556+ 37831 UNC-W GOLD EAGLES 4463 1601 2250 6911 1918 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
i wonder if those numbers also include the double prosperity sets

Clawdia | 12-16-2008 02:39 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Speaking of that double prosperity set . . . are those two coins included the same as the other 'uncirculated' fractionals in that they are stamped on the burnished blanks?

hernancortes | 12-16-2008 02:47 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Yes. THey both have the W mintmark. That set is your last chance to snag a '08 buff unc.--- these just might be MONSTERS years from now... buff unc were a 1-year phenom. Bear in mind of that list i just posted, only a few coins will remain in production next year...

Clawdia | 12-16-2008 07:24 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Thanks. :) If I had one of these sets, what would be the smartest thing I could do with it . . . leave it all packaged up as it came from the mint and hide it away somewhere for a while, rip it open and admire it and then hide it away for a while, or send it off to be graded by one of the two major grading firms? I did buy a couple of 2008 W 1/10th fractionals still in the package from the mint the other day . . . same questions for those, I guess - what would be the smartest thing to do with them, considering in both cases that I would be hoping for appreciation in the future? Do packages from the mint need to be unopened in order to have the coins graded? (I feel like my ignorance is showing - but how else do you find answers other than by asking what might be stupid questions?)

j-son | 12-16-2008 07:27 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1469279) Thanks. :) If I had one of these sets, what would be the smartest thing I could do with it . . . leave it all packaged up as it came from the mint and hide it away somewhere for a while, rip it open and admire it and then hide it away for a while, or send it off to be graded by one of the two major grading firms? I did buy a couple of 2008 W 1/10th fractionals still in the package from the mint the other day . . . same questions for those, I guess - what would be the smartest thing to do with them, considering in both cases that I would be hoping for appreciation in the future? Do packages from the mint need to be unopened in order to have the coins graded? (I feel like my ignorance is showing - but how else do you find answers other than by asking what might be stupid questions?)
you can open the packages...they arent first strike or anything so might as well open them to view the contents. to have them graded you have to send the actual coin to the company...not the packaging unless you're going for first strike.

Clawdia | 12-16-2008 08:32 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Thanks - nah, not interested in 'strikes'. Do wonder if the prosperity set would be better left as it comes from the mint all nice and pretty in the box, or if it'd be better to have them graded. I'm guessing that grading would increase the value, but I'm pretty much of a numanistic idiot, having fallen into that end of the pool by accident. The first 1/10th fractionals I bought happened to be slabbed/graded by NGC as MS69 2007Ws, which I think increased in potential value the day the mint announced the discontinuation of them. Used Cashback when I bought them, so I paid a price I was happy with to start with when I was thinking of them as 'just' bullion - but they might end up being worth more, I think (hope).

j-son | 12-16-2008 08:38 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1469404) Thanks - nah, not interested in 'strikes'. Do wonder if the prosperity set would be better left as it comes from the mint all nice and pretty in the box, or if it'd be better to have them graded. I'm guessing that grading would increase the value, but I'm pretty much of a numanistic idiot, having fallen into that end of the pool by accident. The first 1/10th fractionals I bought happened to be slabbed/graded by NGC as MS69 2007Ws, which I think increased in potential value the day the mint announced the discontinuation of them. Used Cashback when I bought them, so I paid a price I was happy with to start with when I was thinking of them as 'just' bullion - but they might end up being worth more, I think (hope).
for the modern stuff grading only matters for grades of perfect 70's. grades of ms/pf 69 are expected and dont increase the value.

AV8R | 12-17-2008 09:33 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1469404) Thanks - nah, not interested in 'strikes'. Do wonder if the prosperity set would be better left as it comes from the mint all nice and pretty in the box, or if it'd be better to have them graded. I'm guessing that grading would increase the value, but I'm pretty much of a numanistic idiot, having fallen into that end of the pool by accident. The first 1/10th fractionals I bought happened to be slabbed/graded by NGC as MS69 2007Ws, which I think increased in potential value the day the mint announced the discontinuation of them. Used Cashback when I bought them, so I paid a price I was happy with to start with when I was thinking of them as 'just' bullion - but they might end up being worth more, I think (hope).
Clawdia, No doubt your frac buffalo's are an instant winner. I saw only a few on ebay and they are offered with hefty premiums. As far as sending off for grading... If it was me I'd just keep them in the mint pack and go ahead and open them up and enjoy them. Don't worry about asking questions, we're all about sharing info here, Cheers

hernancortes | 12-17-2008 12:22 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE With gold at $875 and $70 premiums for bullion Gold Eagles from places like apmex, this 'W'-unc Eagle from the mint is a no-brainer! The mint only charges $4.95 to ship and they have a 30-day return policy to boot.

EE_ | 12-17-2008 12:52 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE I've been struggling with buying the double prosperity set. The way the fractional buffalos have been going, it looks like a good flip soon as they are sold out? Possibly the 4 coin Unc. eagles too? What to do, what to do? Time is running out and these will never be made again!

j-son | 12-17-2008 12:54 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1470544) I've been struggling with buying the double prosperity set. The way the fractional buffalos have been going, it looks like a good flip soon as they are sold out? Possibly the 4 coin Unc. eagles too? What to do, what to do? Time is running out and these will never be made again!
but the more we buy the higher the mintage gets and the less valuable it becomes!

EE_ | 12-17-2008 12:57 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1470546) but the more we buy the higher the mintage gets and the less valuable it becomes!
Did you get in on the fractional buffalos? or double set? Should we save our $ for 09 offerings?

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j-son | 12-17-2008 01:02 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1470548) Did you get in on the fractional buffalos? or double set? Should we save our $ for 09 offerings?
i did not get either. i dont see them commanding anything great on ebay now that the live.com discount is over and as a seller you need to raise prices 10% higher than your cost just to break even with ebay/paypal/postal fees. i did however get into some bullion during the last price dip :)

EE_ | 12-17-2008 01:05 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1470554) i did not get either. i dont see them commanding anything great on ebay now that the live.com discount is over and as a seller you need to raise prices 10% higher than your cost just to break even with ebay/paypal/postal fees. i did however get into some bullion during the last price dip :)
Yes the dip was nice to us! I grabbed some at $730. Now I want something to flip.

j-son | 12-17-2008 01:08 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1470559) Yes the dip was nice to us! I grabbed some at $730. Now I want something to flip.
something to flip? go for platinum...if you can find it reasonably priced. i just bought some a few days back and plan to flip it when i receive it.

EE_ | 12-17-2008 01:13 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1470565) something to flip? go for platinum...if you can find it reasonably priced. i just bought some a few days back and plan to flip it when i receive it.
Like the Mogambo Guru says "Whee! This investing stuff is easy!" I'm holding my pt for a while yet. I bought plat 1/2 eagles at $550.

hernancortes | 12-17-2008 01:28 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1470546) but the more we buy the higher the mintage gets and the less valuable it becomes!
Not so. The mint is simply selling existing stock of these uncircs. Best sources indicate they stopped producing these months ago to focus on meeting demand for regular bullion issues. The mintage is what it is. If anything the numbers for the 'sold out' coins such as the proof plats and unc. buffs will settle out downward as orders are cancelled and returns are processed.... from what I've read elsewhere, coins returned to the mint are destroyed.

Az Ag | 12-17-2008 03:26 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 1470544) I've been struggling with buying the double prosperity set. The way the fractional buffalos have been going, it looks like a good flip soon as they are sold out? Possibly the 4 coin Unc. eagles too? What to do, what to do? Time is running out and these will never be made again!
I read somewhere that the 2008 coins will be sold until June of 2009 or until they are all sold. Otherwise the sale deadline (at least for the "last chance" coins) only runs through Dec 19th. I am very close to pulling the trigger on the 08 Prosperity Set. I may also get the 4 coin GAE set exactly because of what you said. This is the last year for those Uncirc. GAE fractionals. I wish I had gotten the 4 coin W mint Buff's. They seemed to go all at once. Az Ag

HistoryStudent | 12-17-2008 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Manager Mr (Post 1445892) kind of hard to find at us-mint web site, but I hope this helps http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/...ales&year=2008 http://www.usmint.gov//mint_programs...ageTotals#2007
Thank YOU that was a first CLASS post for it is great to oversee what has happened prior - and give a GUESTIMATE for the future on many things. Again Thanks! :23_1_22::23_1_22::banana::banana:banchabancha:sle epy13::sleepy13:

hernancortes | 12-18-2008 09:30 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Latest mint report: http://numismaster.com/images/upload...lemint1230.jpg

hernancortes | 12-23-2008 12:07 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Here are the latest numbers once again: http://www.numismaticnews.net/upload...lemint0106.jpg

j-son | 12-23-2008 12:18 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE numbers keep climbing

hernancortes | 12-23-2008 01:00 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Bear in mind the best info indicates those numbers are ORDERS, not sales or delivered coins. That's why some of those numbers went down, due to returns and cancellations. The final tally typically takes months and some cases years to settle out. The mint is not exactly renowned for timeliness or competency.

Clawdia | 12-23-2008 05:28 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Is it correct that there are still no figures available on how many of the Prosperity Sets were either minted or sold? That would certainly have some bearing on how many of the 1/2 uncirculated gold eagles end up being in existence. Still trying to figure out whether that's the best thing to buy, or if it'd be better to split the $$ among the uncirculated gold eagles and just forget that freakin' buffalo . . . Or would that be a horrible mistake, giving up that chance at the buffalo . . . (can't be the worst mistake I've ever made . . . I'm still paying for that one!).

hernancortes | 12-23-2008 05:36 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Clawdia, 4563 double prosperity sets 'sold' (should say 'orders taken') to date. Add that to the #'s posted above... http://www.numismaticnews.net/upload...igmint0106.jpg

Az Ag | 12-23-2008 06:42 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Sr Hernan. Thanks for the post. I see they have added numbers for the Prosperity set. Cool. Clawdia, I have agonized over the same decision you are making. I can't really afford to get both the 4 coin GAE Uncirculated Set and the Prosperity set at the same time while also maintaining harmonious marital relations. I went ahead and got the Prosperity set because it is the first and last year for the Buffalo fractionals while it is only the last year for the GAE Uncirculated fractionals. If I can some how put some more funds together I will get the GAE set too. The only problem is the new 2009 Ultra High Relief Gold Double Eagle coin is coming out Jan 22nd and I want to get one of those too. I am kicking myself for not getting the Buffalo Uncirculated 4 coin set when I had the chance. They sold out a lot faster than I expected them to. Anyway, good luck with your decision.

Clawdia | 12-24-2008 12:55 AM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE Thanks for the data, hernancortes. I wish they'd publish these charts with numbers big enough I didn't need to drag out a magnifying glass to read them! Az Ag, I can't afford both either - and am kicking myself for 'just' picking up bullion with the cashback instead of having enough of a brain in my head to have gone for the buffs! I'm still sitting on the fence - I guess if I perch up here long enough, the fates will make up my mind for me by disappearing something I'm thinking about buying. I've also debated picking up just 3-4 1/4s of the uncirculated eagles . . . those numbers on the 1/2s could get kind of high, if I'm reading the charts right. I was lucky, tho - with the help of Mr. Softy's cashback, I managed to average in some fractionals at around $800/oz equivalent. Guess I shouldn't complain, since I was late come to the party anyway. I did buy three 2006W uncirculated 1/10ths the other day - the ones in the nice little blue pouches inside the blue boxes - seller on ebay had never even opened the package from the mint. I don't think I'd ever sell an unopened pkg that had my receipt on the inside, giving my full name and address, as well as how much the coins originally cost. He made $100 for holding the three 1/10ths for a couple of years - I'm hoping I can make at least that much in a couple of years. I'd rather have had the 2008Ws, but the price was right, and I think all these gold fractionals will be worth a premium one of these days. Whether I live long enough to cop a profit remains to be seen (that old story of the truck speeding down the highway, or just plain old age . . . ).

igorthesmall | 12-29-2008 01:02 PM
Re: Low mintages on W mint GAE I bought a pair of the 08-08-08 prosperity sets from the mint today. I cant believe the 1/10 oz buffalo coins are selling for $300+ on Ebay now.

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