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hugo_danner | 08-16-2006 02:38 PM
Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? I'm getting a bonus and have a fair amount to spend (for me, anyway!) Since April, I've bought about 40 lbs of silver and 10-12 oz of gold. I wished I'd have started years ago, but didn't. Anyway, I'm in Korea and have $6k to spend and am wondering what would be some recommendations? I'm going to Apmex and pondering the 1 oz Krugs but eyeballing the 90% junk silver as well. What you do in my situation?:confused:

TomD | 08-16-2006 02:52 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? I'd be tempted to dollar value split 60/40 silver/gold and buy as much metal as I could and not worry about numismatic values. Rounds, bars, whatever, just so it's as cheap as possible and real PM.

TheKingsSon | 08-16-2006 02:56 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Silver is sweet But Gold is King!

freemoney | 08-16-2006 02:59 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? since you have so much silver, I would buy 3k of gold, and right now its $626, I know it will be 700 or higher this fall spend 3k on silver or just put it in a roth ira

The Argent Dragon | 08-16-2006 03:24 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 333439) I'd be tempted to dollar value split 60/40 silver/gold and buy as much metal as I could and not worry about numismatic values. Rounds, bars, whatever, just so it's as cheap as possible and real PM.
I like TomD's advice.........although I'd lean a little towards Gold $-Dollar wise. Increase the Silver to 50-lbs. or a little over and put the rest in GOLD. :coolbeer:

aikitrader | 08-16-2006 03:24 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Are you staying in Korea, or will you be relocating sometime soon? If you are relocating soon, I think you could consider an Exchange Traded Fund such as: SLV - the Silver ETF GLD - the Gold ETF CEF - Canada Fund (a 50/50 mix of gold and silver) Then when you relocate - you can sell out of the ETF funds and buy physical pm

65gt350 | 08-16-2006 03:35 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Since you are about 50/50 on your holdings I would buy gold with the 6K and whenever you have extra money I would buy silver. If you plan on leaving Korea anytime soon I would only be buying gold. 65GT350

hugo_danner | 08-16-2006 04:11 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by aikitrader (Post 333462) Are you staying in Korea, or will you be relocating sometime soon? If you are relocating soon, I think you could consider an Exchange Traded Fund such as: SLV - the Silver ETF GLD - the Gold ETF CEF - Canada Fund (a 50/50 mix of gold and silver) Then when you relocate - you can sell out of the ETF funds and buy physical pm
I'm staying in Korea for a year, possibly 2. The thing is, I have an apartment as part of my job, walk to work, have health insurance, and am paying a LOW tax rate. My salary is pretty decent against the tax bite and living costs back home. At the moment, I have $1.5-$2k to spend a month. What I buy is going to a very good friend who is putting in my rented storage place, hidden in some boxes that I have stored as well in a small town in Ohio. I prefer PM's to stocks at this time. It's low stress, 6 hours a day and I don't fight traffic. But I want to come back to my nest egg and start an Aquaponics farm, eventually.

Anty Ep | 08-16-2006 04:13 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? start a roth ira, and a traditional ira, then 1/3 each silver, gold, and oil etfs. put the balance in FRNs stuffed into your mattress.

Lovemonster | 08-16-2006 04:16 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Since you are in a foreign country make some trips to some antique/junk stores for some early date US coins.....see if you can find some good deals on PM coins......once you educate yourself these sort of expeditions can pay off...

hugo_danner | 08-16-2006 04:24 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? I'm doing that. I recently bought a 1912 1/2 ounce half Indian Head coin that was in perfect condition (brilliant uncirculated condition--no wear whatsoever) for about $350. They charged me for the price of the gold, not the rarity of the coin. I sent it home to my father to have it graded and sold. I care about the gold value, not the "rarity" value of it. Actually, I plan on writing an article about buying gold here in the near future, after I skulk about the country looking for deals here and start to learn the market much better.

Tn...Andy | 08-16-2006 04:51 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? I'm amazed ya'll think 40-50lbs of silver is "a lot".......:haha:

SilverCollector | 08-16-2006 04:56 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 333565) I'm amazed ya'll think 40-50lbs of silver is "a lot".......:haha:
It's about 40-50lbs more then 98.73% of the people have. :smile:

SilverCollector | 08-16-2006 04:59 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? You can get a big red box of Silver Maples for a bit under $7K. :yippee:

TomD | 08-16-2006 05:20 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCollector (Post 333573) It's about 40-50lbs more then 98.73% of the people have. :smile:
But still only 560-700 ounces +/- a little. My personal silver/gold $ ratio is about 2.5/1 silver/gold I am personally convinced that silver has a much greater future price move built into it but I also value gold's lesser volitility. Look at the price drops of early summer, working from memory silver dropped from about $15 to $9.7 and gold from $720 to $570. Prolly off some but close. Sliver lost 35% and gold 21%. But now silver is back 26% but gold 10%.

Tn...Andy | 08-16-2006 05:37 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCollector (Post 333573) It's about 40-50lbs more then 98.73% of the people have. :smile:
Yep....I'm totally with you on that point, except I'd say it's 99.73 ! But this is a GOLD and SILVER site......I'd think a "LOT" here means if you put it in your pickup, the overload springs were creaking....:haha:

lhslancers | 08-16-2006 06:00 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 333565) I'm amazed ya'll think 40-50lbs of silver is "a lot".......:haha:
It's really only 800 ounces. I'd buy more Silver. Get at least your bodyweight. Then buy more Gold.

WideOpen | 08-16-2006 08:39 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? http://www.321gold.com/fed/gold/fedgold.jpg :haha: GET PHYSICAL

Au_Ag | 08-16-2006 08:50 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by lhslancers (Post 333646) Get at least your bodyweight. .
I've been on a diet and am losing weight. Do you mean to say that I should sell some of my silver and buy gold, as I lose weight? _really big grin_

j-son | 08-16-2006 09:25 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? how about buying $500 face value of junk silver from me? i'll match apmex prices at $4300 right now. let me know...i'll even take paypal echeck....you'd of course have to pay for shipping which i think might be a lot since silver is heavy and you live in another country.

WAoG | 08-16-2006 10:54 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? You do not have very much silver. I would buy mostly silver.

Scorpio | 08-16-2006 11:15 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? I'd like to revisit the statement: Quote:
What I buy is going to a very good friend who is putting in my rented storage place, hidden in some boxes that I have stored as well in a small town in Ohio
You have some really big ones doing that IMO. Until you get back from overseas, I would prefer that you would go with a top notch fund like Tocqueville Gold, and they will protect your funds 'til you get back. They have done a phenomenol job of growing accounts. Buying physical overseas and transporting back is a security, and a cost problem. These costs will detract from your final value to realize your goals. Buying physical here, and allowing others to handle, introduces a variable that may cost you big time, no matter how well you know the person. JMHO Fund Name Symbol Closing Net Change YTD % Ret Tocqueville Fund TOCQX $24.36 0.27 4.91% Small Cap Value Fund TSCVX $16.64 0.24 -2.23% International Value Fund TIVFX $16.26 0.20 6.21% Gold Fund TGLDX $50.34 0.60 23.38% Alexis Fund TOCAX $13.41 0.12 -0.87% Genesis Fund TGENX $11.17 0.15 4.59% http://www.tocquevillefunds.com/

Veritas | 08-16-2006 11:30 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by hugo_danner (Post 333428) I'm getting a bonus and have a fair amount to spend (for me, anyway!) Since April, I've bought about 40 lbs of silver and 10-12 oz of gold. I wished I'd have started years ago, but didn't. Anyway, I'm in Korea and have $6k to spend and am wondering what would be some recommendations? I'm going to Apmex and pondering the 1 oz Krugs but eyeballing the 90% junk silver as well. What you do in my situation?:confused:
Gold Maples.

Scorpio | 08-16-2006 11:37 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? 1 Attachment(s) Here is the chart through the bull period.

SilverbackAg | 08-17-2006 04:28 AM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by hugo_danner (Post 333525) I'm doing that. I recently bought a 1912 1/2 ounce half Indian Head coin that was in perfect condition (brilliant uncirculated condition--no wear whatsoever) for about $350. They charged me for the price of the gold, not the rarity of the coin. I sent it home to my father to have it graded and sold. I care about the gold value, not the "rarity" value of it. Actually, I plan on writing an article about buying gold here in the near future, after I skulk about the country looking for deals here and start to learn the market much better.
Would you be willing to give any clues as to the area in which you went searching for coins? I'll give you the only place I have found--Insadong (art district) in Seoul. There was a street vendor selling coins. I don't know if he had any gold or silver (I suspect he did) because I brain farted on the Han Gul word for gold and couldn't communicate too well. He did have some neat north korean fiat coins and paper that I almost bought for novelty sake but I couldn't force myself to part with the FRNs for money even more worthless. I don't live in Seoul so I haven't had the chance to revisit Insadong to search.

hugo_danner | 08-17-2006 05:11 AM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by silverbackMP (Post 334081) Would you be willing to give any clues as to the area in which you went searching for coins? I'll give you the only place I have found--Insadong (art district) in Seoul. There was a street vendor selling coins. I don't know if he had any gold or silver (I suspect he did) because I brain farted on the Han Gul word for gold and couldn't communicate too well. He did have some neat north korean fiat coins and paper that I almost bought for novelty sake but I couldn't force myself to part with the FRNs for money even more worthless. I don't live in Seoul so I haven't had the chance to revisit Insadong to search.
I went to a 2 story building in Namdaemoon that has many different jewlers there. I found them (gold coins) in a display and snatched them up as soon as I found them. I was at Insa-dong as well and most gold is either the clunky chains, knick-knacks such as golf balls, gold turtles, (etc...) and the 37.5g gold dongs. And the prices they charge depends on how stupid the vendors think you are!

SilverbackAg | 08-17-2006 08:44 AM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by hugo_danner (Post 334092) I went to a 2 story building in Namdaemoon that has many different jewlers there. I found them (gold coins) in a display and snatched them up as soon as I found them. I was at Insa-dong as well and most gold is either the clunky chains, knick-knacks such as golf balls, gold turtles, (etc...) and the 37.5g gold dongs. And the prices they charge depends on how stupid the vendors think you are!
I asked my GF for the proper phrasing to ask for U.S. Au coins in Han Gul. "Meagle Geum Wa Isseyo" Meagle (the States)--Pronounced like "Smeagle" in Lord of the Rings without the S Geum (Gold)--sounds more like "Koom" to me Wa (Chinese for money) Isseyo (Is there?)--I'm sure you already know that one Literally---"States Gold money is there?" You ever notice that when you translate Han Gul literally into English you sound like Yoda?

sliver | 08-17-2006 11:19 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? >I am personally convinced that silver has a much greater future price >move built into it but I also value gold's lesser volitility. I agree with that also, but the choice has to depend somewhat on why you are buying the metal. I am more bullish on silver, but if you need to relocate quickly the gold is going in the backpack, not the 100 ouncers

SilverbackAg | 08-18-2006 06:02 AM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by hugo_danner (Post 333525) I'm doing that. I recently bought a 1912 1/2 ounce half Indian Head coin that was in perfect condition (brilliant uncirculated condition--no wear whatsoever) for about $350. They charged me for the price of the gold, not the rarity of the coin. I sent it home to my father to have it graded and sold. I care about the gold value, not the "rarity" value of it. Actually, I plan on writing an article about buying gold here in the near future, after I skulk about the country looking for deals here and start to learn the market much better.
I got to thinking. My only concern with buying stuff here are the possibilities of forgeries. I'm sure you know from experience how well the Koreans are at copying stuff. I have a "Breitling" Watch that would take somebody from the Breitling factory to know that it is a knockoff. I also have several "Armani" suits that I paid $180.00 each. That being said, I have never known a Korean to purposely mislead someone about an item being genuine when it is not. They may try to overcharge you but they usually won't flat lie to you. Your take on this?

hugo_danner | 08-18-2006 10:53 AM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Quote:
Originally Posted by silverbackMP (Post 335077) I got to thinking. My only concern with buying stuff here are the possibilities of forgeries. I'm sure you know from experience how well the Koreans are at copying stuff. I have a "Breitling" Watch that would take somebody from the Breitling factory to know that it is a knockoff. I also have several "Armani" suits that I paid $180.00 each. That being said, I have never known a Korean to purposely mislead someone about an item being genuine when it is not. They may try to overcharge you but they usually won't flat lie to you. Your take on this?
I only buy gold from jewelery shops in large buildings full of jewelers. I don't buy from the first place I go to, either. I let them know I have money, am serious and not afraid to walk next door if I don't like the deals. Like I said earlier in this thread, I'm moving from Wonju to very close to Seoul and will spend a lot of time in the next year skulking around (Seoul) and am considering writing an article on my experiences in the near future. I've been to a couple shops where they speak perfect and talked to them at length and was told the things to "look" for. But the main things are the gold "heft," are they giving me a price off the top of their heads--or do they get out the calculator and weigh and figure it out by the gram--(believe me I know the day's price). You can tell an established shop and a shop that's a fly by night operation. In spite of this, it's still possible to get burned.........but like I said, I'm pretty careful.

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REV127 | 08-18-2006 04:12 PM
Re: Got $6k to Spend! Silver or Gold? Considering the way gold and silver are behaving right now and considering you already have a respectable stash of bullion what I would do with the $6,000 is trade the silver and gold etf's against eachother. I'd watch the silver to gold ratio closely, when silver approached 50 ounces to one ounce of gold I would sell silver and buy gold. When gold approached 1 ounce to 60 ounces of silver I would sell gold and buy silver. As silver and gold dance around eachother you could make quite a bit of money and then at any time you please cash out and buy silver and/or gold bullion, much more than the initial $6,000 would have bought you even if the price per ounce is higher at the time of your bullion purchase. Before SLV I wouldn't have done this, but these two etf's are a match made in heaven for some quick cash.

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