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prophet | 02-24-2010 07:12 PM
Fleaby-beware of such conduct Purchased an american buff on 26th jan. Paid by pay**l Seller gave me a tracking number which does not work. Asked him why and for more shipping details. Lots of deflective comments such as: "How are you today? Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Well, I called the post office. Nothing has come back to the post office. They said it could take another week or so. Please let me know when you get it. take care my friend" "How are you? By the sounds of it not to good. Look I'll go by the post office & see if they can help me. If not I'll refund your payment by Monday. When you get it just pay for the coin. Your a nice guy with great feedback so I'm not too worried about it. you take care" By Monday. it would have been more than a month. i understand that Pay**l allows the withdrawal of monies from transactions only one month after. Is that right? i lodged a dispute. Money was returned IMMEDIATELY. Does this smell or what? https://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Thing is: Seller had more than 1,000 responses with 99.5% posistive. Thats the second time i tried to buy the proof buff. Both ended up with return monies! https://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Irons | 02-24-2010 08:15 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Yeah that does stink. I buy on the bay a lot but I keep mostly with my saved sellers list.

Stealinator | 02-24-2010 08:19 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by prophet (Post 2197345) Purchased an american buff on 26th jan. Paid by pay**l Seller gave me a tracking number which does not work. Asked him why and for more shipping details. Lots of deflective comments such as: "How are you today? Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Well, I called the post office. Nothing has come back to the post office. They said it could take another week or so. Please let me know when you get it. take care my friend" "How are you? By the sounds of it not to good. Look I'll go by the post office & see if they can help me. If not I'll refund your payment by Monday. When you get it just pay for the coin. Your a nice guy with great feedback so I'm not too worried about it. you take care" By Monday. it would have been more than a month. i understand that Pay**l allows the withdrawal of monies from transactions only one month after. Is that right? i lodged a dispute. Money was returned IMMEDIATELY. Does this smell or what? https://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Thing is: Seller had more than 1,000 responses with 99.5% posistive. Thats the second time i tried to buy the proof buff. Both ended up with return monies! https://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
Bet you 50 cents I know who the seller is.

Stealinator | 02-24-2010 08:21 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct I had a post on this few days back asking someone to check it out if they had time, did not make sense to me, the guy was buying GAE for 1200+ and selling for mid 11's. same with buffs and Mex 50's. will try and find post and re post. edit:Anyone bored, check out this seller and tell me what you think. Can not figure this guy out. Often times, when I bid on pricy items, I look at feedback of sellers, see what they buy and sell over time. This guy just bought a gold buff for close to a $100 OVER what I just paid for one. Not the first time noticed this in his auctions. This like a front or something? Who would pay over $1,400 , at todays prices , for a gold 50 peso. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT __________________

Stealinator | 02-24-2010 08:29 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct This is the auction that I won, and after a week I asked about shipping. He said that paypal would not allow him to take funds out, I contacted paypal, no issue , told him I was going to file and an hour later was pissed at his response, so did. He paid back the 5+k and banned me from bidding on his items. sent emails to others in his feedback asking what problems they had, they did not have any, so....still trying to figure this cat out, though not wasting too much time. He said that he would mail the 1 gold buff this monday when he got back in town. we shall see. can not figure out his angle yet. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330398995346

prophet | 02-24-2010 08:43 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Steal, Thats the GUY! And he tells me this stil......confidence trickster? Quote:
" When you get it just pay for the coin"
But i had an inkling with his description early on........... Quote:
I'm having a few personal & family issues. It may take a few extra days for you to get your coins.
This is what i think. He has a few $$$$ problems. He building up to a BIG payday..........with real sales...... This is what i won http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

prophet | 02-24-2010 08:55 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct From any forum that i posted this in.......... Quote:
I believe items over 1k with sellers with less than 50 FB need a positive FB to have funds released. Prophet, things like this used to happen a lot when spot was dropping like a rock because sellers didn't have goods in hand and where hoping to buy with your funds. All it took was a rise in spot and they were in the red. Now, it seems that even some of the sellers with good FB are turning crooked and want to cash out with other people's FRNs. I'm afraid it isn't going to get any betterhttps://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
they are using funds to purchse items when POG is dropping? WOW! Look like Even fleabay sellers are SHORTSELLING! :s10:

CoinNut | 02-24-2010 09:01 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct One month??..One week I would open a "dispute" unless it was shipped REGISTERED and was given track number indicating it was received at USPS. Seller has plenty of time once dispute/claim started. Best to go on record so PP can "see" possible problem sale.Easy to cancel claim if coin shows. Refunded fast would suggest,in my opinion. coin never sent . Looking for more , perhaps.OR it may be as seller says. May want to give your "opinion" when you rate sale feedback.

HistoryStudent | 02-24-2010 09:07 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct I had a "World Coin he called himself" fellow that never shipped - always read the FEEDBACK - because dirtbags leave a record. Oh yes they grab the money. Too many crooks on Ebay always check the feedback (second time reminder for those slow like ME!) Best wishes and fuzzy warm feeling to all, :ok: HS

prophet | 02-24-2010 09:09 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct i gave a month cause i am on the other side of the globe. Normally takes priority shipping 2 weeks including customs. This was suppose to be express shipping which would take a week. i AM a patient dude, i guess. AND a lucky one so far....... :)

prophet | 02-24-2010 09:11 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Methink lots dirtbags are registering multiple nicks to simulate lotsa positive responses!

mick silver | 02-24-2010 09:12 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct i was burn more the once on fleabay . i alway got my money back . i have never went back just to much to do to get thing right .

Saoirse | 02-24-2010 09:13 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct From a long forgotten GIM thread: http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1208165145

Saul Mine | 02-24-2010 09:26 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Some times some really goofy things happen. I once bought a bunch of scrap silver and when it arrived half of it was phony. I printed a return label and sent it back with a note saying "THIS IS NOT SILVER!" I also sent an email saying the same thing. No action for about a week, then I got the package back. He never opened it, just put a new label on it. Next day I got an email. He had been out of town for a week. When he returned, his package was waiting for him. He looked at it and said "OMG, I sent it to myself! My customer must be frantic!" Well, how was I to know we both used Windows Wordpad with default fonts to print shipping labels? So he had mailed it to me a second time, and then he read his emails. By now he is feeling like three kinds of fool and doesn't have the heart to ask me to pay for it. I paid him anyway for the half that was genuine silver.

Curmudgeonista | 02-25-2010 12:14 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by prophet (Post 2197345) Thing is: Seller had more than 1,000 responses with 99.5% posistive.
99.5% is not so good in my book. 5 or 6 negs is still 5 or 6 negs. I want to see 100% performance, especially on PMs.

HistoryStudent | 02-25-2010 12:19 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by Curmudgeonista (Post 2197826) 99.5% is not so good in my book. 5 or 6 negs is still 5 or 6 negs. I want to see 100% performance, especially on PMs.
Yeah, I became NUMBER six on a no show for a set of 4 Olympic 1996 coins, one was a gold rare coin too. I think you are "too smart here" a BRAVO :coolbeer: from dumb & humblized...

OutlawJoseyWalesJr | 02-25-2010 07:05 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by Curmudgeonista (Post 2197826) 99.5% is not so good in my book. 5 or 6 negs is still 5 or 6 negs. I want to see 100% performance, especially on PMs.
For me to bid on a silver art bar item on ebay, an ebay seller has to have a 99% or better on the seller rating. On very rare occasions, I will make an exception if it is under 99% buy over 98% depending on the negative feedback that was left on a particular seller. With all of that said, I also prefer an ebay seller with 100% performance. For example, if two ebay sellers are selling the exact same silver art bar and both auctions look decent price wise, then I am going to go with ebay seller with the 100% performance. I have never had any problems with any transactions from ebay sellers with 99%-99.9% performance rating. In the past, I have bought a few items from ebay sellers with a 98%-98.9% performance ratings but that can be risky especially if the neg. feedback is very recent which can be a red flag. In my opinion, bidding on ebay can be a uge risk of a person does not DYODD.

Stealinator | 02-26-2010 07:29 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Too bad something can not be done about this guy. Seems if your a sucka, you get your gold, he pays way more than I would for gold and doing pretty good at finding someone to overpay. So blatantly obvious in his feedback as to his game though. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...ab=AllFeedback

prophet | 02-26-2010 09:50 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 2199888) Too bad something can not be done about this guy. Seems if your a sucka, you get your gold, he pays way more than I would for gold and doing pretty good at finding someone to overpay. So blatantly obvious in his feedback as to his game though. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...ab=AllFeedback
He just advised me that the coin was returned to him! i haven't left a negative.....yet......what to do huh? :mad_m:

slugbucket | 02-26-2010 10:28 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...32000&ref=home

livtocruz | 02-26-2010 11:49 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct 1 Attachment(s) Here's one for you, dwell on this. I always check the other bidders because I like to see how many I am up against. I click on the "Show automatic bids" button to see the progression of bids. Has anyone else ever encountered the "Private bidder" before? I have and even won a couple. Well guess what, I still have those Chinese silver rounds, finally sent them in along with some other stuff to Midwest Refiners. There was absolutely no silver in them. I picked them up over a year ago pretty cheap, so I thought. They were stamped 5 ozt but weighed 3 ozt. First flag went up, second flag went up when I realized that bidding on international items was risky, especially if the sellers name was "lizushan", the third flag is "Private Bidder". I did a lot of searching and finally found a site about fake Chinese silver. http://china-mint.info/fake-coin-images.html To this day I only buy from north America. Sorry my overseas friends but shipping is a killer on only one or two items. I also have learned that jumping in an auction with little time left before it's over can be dangerous, unless you know exactly what you're bidding on. Anything requiring a little research I look for a bidding end time of 10 or so minutes. Just my,

CoinNut | 02-26-2010 12:05 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct What to do..?? Money refunded,time wasted. I would give "neutral" with low star rating and then forget about it/seller.A neg a bit much and neutral cautions others.

Stealinator | 02-26-2010 02:01 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by CoinNut (Post 2200232) What to do..?? Money refunded,time wasted. I would give "neutral" with low star rating and then forget about it/seller.A neg a bit much and neutral cautions others.
That kind of what HE wants, IMO. If auction is too low a price for him, he rather re-pay funds and cancel. I looked over alot of his auctions , both wins and sells. He just rescently bought 10 GAE for over 12k. He is just gambling on the market going up . Never have I seen a stated shipping time of 17+ days. If he renigs on our 2nd auction, I will leave a neg and explain his scam. I have had alot of auctions last year that by the time a week was up, was selling silver less than spot at time of auction , never once backed out and shipped within 24hrs.

gangsta99 | 02-26-2010 09:11 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Neg this guy if he doesn't send you the item. He is obviously playing f ucking games with folks.

prophet | 02-28-2010 01:15 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct DANG! Cant give feedback after he returned funds!!!!!!!!!! :thumb.aspx:

prophet | 02-28-2010 02:07 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Another fella whos posted the same coins under different nicks! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/GREAT-BRITAIN...item4a9eeedef3

Buyingsilvers | 02-28-2010 02:17 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by prophet (Post 2197345) Purchased an american buff on 26th jan. Paid by pay**l Seller gave me a tracking number which does not work. Asked him why and for more shipping details. Lots of deflective comments such as: "How are you today? Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Well, I called the post office. Nothing has come back to the post office. They said it could take another week or so. Please let me know when you get it. take care my friend" "How are you? By the sounds of it not to good. Look I'll go by the post office & see if they can help me. If not I'll refund your payment by Monday. When you get it just pay for the coin. Your a nice guy with great feedback so I'm not too worried about it. you take care" By Monday. it would have been more than a month. i understand that Pay**l allows the withdrawal of monies from transactions only one month after. Is that right? i lodged a dispute. Money was returned IMMEDIATELY. Does this smell or what? https://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Thing is: Seller had more than 1,000 responses with 99.5% posistive. Thats the second time i tried to buy the proof buff. Both ended up with return monies! https://www.kitcomm.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
Same thing happened to me for 2 buffs. Might be same seller. You never know. Like I mentioned, it's a common scam.

diversified2 | 02-28-2010 03:00 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by slugbucket (Post 2200087) http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...32000&ref=home
Very useful tool....Thank you slugs!:emotions16:

Stealinator | 02-28-2010 10:44 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by prophet (Post 2202660) DANG! Cant give feedback after he returned funds!!!!!!!!!! :thumb.aspx:
Should be able to, I did. Seller usally cancels auction (other wise they have to still pay the listing and sold value fees) you should have an icon somewhere to click that will say you agree to canceling the auction. I have left feedback after funds where reversed in many auctions.

Stealinator | 02-28-2010 10:50 AM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by slugbucket (Post 2200087) http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...32000&ref=home
+1 on the thanks for link

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prophet | 02-28-2010 06:20 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 2202978) Should be able to, I did. Seller usally cancels auction (other wise they have to still pay the listing and sold value fees) you should have an icon somewhere to click that will say you agree to canceling the auction. I have left feedback after funds where reversed in many auctions.
It doesnt even ask for feedback anymore. i suppose if they have resolved my dispute and the seller retunrs the funds, they consider it an accepted cancelled transcation automatically. :thumb.aspx:

triplelake | 03-01-2010 08:21 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct You should not accept the seller's reques to cancel transaction. The seller cannot get his ebay final value fees back if buyer does not agree to cancel the transaction.

prophet | 03-01-2010 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by triplelake (Post 2205699) You should not accept the seller's reques to cancel transaction. The seller cannot get his ebay final value fees back if buyer does not agree to cancel the transaction.
i did not cancel transaction in ebay but lodged a dispute in paypal Is that the same thing? When the seller refunded, it seems the transaction id automatically cancel mutually.

Stealinator | 03-14-2010 02:11 PM
Re: Fleaby-beware of such conduct I advised this seller not to F*@% me over a 2nd time and NOT to refund my payment but to send me my Gold buff I paid $1,146 for 22 days prior. He refunded instantly. So I do not feel bad as to what I started. Domino effect is brutal. (my handle here same as on ebay) http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...edbackAsSeller

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