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Heimdhal | 06-21-2008 12:08 PM
Need Help Identifying Gold Bar Well, title says it all. My mother, aunt and uncle were cleaning out my recently deceased grandmothers apartment yesterday and came across a bar of gold. They didnt have a good enough camera to take a picture of to send, so i have to wait till shes back from NY to actualy see it and get pics up here. But she read to me what was on it. Obverse Horneus(?) Dental Gold Co. Fine HDG gold 1 oz. troy 9999 Reverse Unecht(?) Heraeus(sp) Rnd(bottom corner) Has anyone heard of or seen these? I know with dental gold sometimes i can be hard to test purity, but with a 9999 stamp on it I'd say thats pretty good. Apparently my grandparents were close friends with a dentist back in the 40's or 50's and this is likley to origin of it. Likleyhood of a counterfit is small. Mother said she just found it sitting on a shelf, so likley my grandmother had no idea of its current value. Any ideas? The "unect" concerns me a bit.

carpathian | 06-21-2008 12:18 PM
Re: Need Help Identifying Gold Bar HERAEUS is a refining company from Germany http://weightoncoin.com/coins/images...%20Bar_001.jpg picture of 1 kilo silver bar edit : and yes, Unecht means "false"

carpathian | 06-21-2008 12:27 PM
Re: Need Help Identifying Gold Bar here is one more:http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/heraeusgoldbars.html

Heimdhal | 06-21-2008 12:35 PM
Re: Need Help Identifying Gold Bar Quote:
Originally Posted by carpathian (Post 1156452) HERAEUS is a refining company from Germany http://weightoncoin.com/coins/images...%20Bar_001.jpg picture of 1 kilo silver bar edit : and yes, Unecht means "false"
ty. I figured it was at the very least a german- american company from the names, though I didnt turn up much on search. And seeing as, like you've even said, Unecht is german for fake I had doubts. But why would company make a bar for dental gold, stamp it 9999 with the 1 troy ounce and all that if its a fake. Is there a big market for known fake gold bars :confused_ma:

Gcubed | 06-21-2008 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1156470) ty. I figured it was at the very least a german- american company from the names, though I didnt turn up much on search. And seeing as, like you've even said, Unecht is german for fake I had doubts. But why would company make a bar for dental gold, stamp it 9999 with the 1 troy ounce and all that if its a fake. Is there a big market for known fake gold bars :confused_ma:
Probably a "display" sample for salesmen.

Jekyll7 | 06-21-2008 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1156470) Is there a big market for known fake gold bars :confused_ma:
Actually, fake gold bars that look genuine do very well on places like ebay. Unfortunately, you'd have to deal with the guilt that your buyers-buyer will probably pay spot price for a fake.

Heimdhal | 06-21-2008 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1156484) Probably a "display" sample for salesmen.
That would actualy make sense. Quote:
Originally Posted by Jekyll7 (Post 1156492) Actually, fake gold bars that look genuine do very well on places like ebay. Unfortunately, you'd have to deal with the guilt that your buyers-buyer will probably pay spot price for a fake.
I dont think i could live with the guilt of dooping some one out of 900 knowingly like that. If I didnt know it was fake and neither did the person buying then I wouldnt feel bad, but to know its a fake...nah, couldnt do it. Then again, that would certainly help with my car payments :tongue_ma:

Twisted Avatar | 06-21-2008 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gcubed (Post 1156484) Probably a "display" sample for salesmen.
+1 I think someone around here was showing a pamp siuess fake bar on ebay .....gold coated brass. T

Heimdhal | 06-21-2008 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1156544) +1 I think someone around here was showing a pamp siuess fake bar on ebay .....gold coated brass. T
TA, I know i let you slide on the other threads, but if youre going to post in one of MY threads, then you MUST show a picture relevent to the post :tongue_ma: :smokin: EDIT: It doesnt have to be relevent..........

Twisted Avatar | 06-21-2008 02:45 PM
Re: Need Help Identifying Gold Bar 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1156606) TA, I know i let you slide on the other threads, but if youre going to post in one of MY threads, then you MUST show a picture relevent to the post :tongue_ma: :smokin: EDIT: It doesnt have to be relevent..........
Hey hey hey .........has been noted!! I was looking for it on google images........ I dont know how to look up old threads

Gcubed | 06-21-2008 02:47 PM
Re: Need Help Identifying Gold Bar Hey T, Is that a spot on your eye or my monitor that I see?? :D

Heimdhal | 06-21-2008 03:08 PM
Re: Need Help Identifying Gold Bar Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1156619) Hey hey hey .........has been noted!! I was looking for it on google images........ I dont know how to look up old threads
:applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_ :applause_:applause_ yes, my thread is official now, i have the TA stamp of approval! On another note, my mother did find an old penny from 1890 something(not worth much) an indian head nickle from 1930 something(date is worn off, also not worth much) and an 1896 AU(from her description anyways) Morgan. Im sure theres more, she just calls me as she finds them to ask what they are worth. I told her to give the nickle and penny to my cousinds kids as it was their great grandmother and they were close. They're 10 and 13 respectivly. So it should make a nice gift if they put it in a decent case to hang in their rooms. Who knows, when they are 84, the coins might be worth a whole hell of alot being some 150+ years old.

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