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drewk4 | 01-24-2010 02:29 PM
Good hiding spot for PM Take an EMPTY 20 lb propane tank, unscrew the valve on the top, blow remaining if any contents out repeatedly with compressed air. When COMPLETELY convinced NO gas remains, zipcut out the bottom (inside the stand ring) fill with objects of your choice, take a permanent marker and write expired/empty on outside. Tack on a hinged door at the bottom with a latch. One could place a box inside, fill the surrounding area with expanding foam and be done. 100 lb bottles work best when all rusty on the outside. Just an idea one could expand upon....I'm sure some negatives exist but just sayin'....

Saul Mine | 01-24-2010 10:12 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Set an empty five gallon bucket under your work bench. Put your stash in it. Cover completely with nuts, bolts, and misc metal. Set an empty cardboard box in a storage closet. Put your stash in it. Cover completely with Christmas ornaments. Set an empty soap box next to your washer. Put your stash in it. Completely cover with powdered laundry soap. Small stash: open your refrigerator and look beneath the door. Older models have a removable pan. Remove it and clean it. (You should clean it every year, but almost nobody knows that.) Put it back in and put your stash there.

Bx3 | 01-24-2010 11:05 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM 4 Attachment(s) Why does everyone make it so complicated? Can it, bury it, forget about it.Bx3

SLV>GLD | 01-24-2010 11:13 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Some of us like to touch it. Some of us don't buy an entire ammo can's worth in one swoop and need a place to amass before burial. I, personally, would expect an ammo can to rust to pieces underground.

Corbin Dallas | 01-24-2010 11:14 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Inside an old VCR, stored in a closet or on a shelf. Noone wants VCR's anymore. Just to be sure, put a post-it on it that says "broken".

kitsune | 01-24-2010 11:17 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by drewk4 (Post 2144035) Take an EMPTY 20 lb propane tank, unscrew the valve on the top, blow remaining if any contents out repeatedly with compressed air. When COMPLETELY convinced NO gas remains, zipcut out the bottom (inside the stand ring) fill with objects of your choice, take a permanent marker and write expired/empty on outside. Tack on a hinged door at the bottom with a latch. One could place a box inside, fill the surrounding area with expanding foam and be done. 100 lb bottles work best when all rusty on the outside. Just an idea one could expand upon....I'm sure some negatives exist but just sayin'....
Nice idea.... but REALLY BAD Negatives: - Helpful relative comes by, sees the 'empty' and decides to exchange it since he used up my last propane tank on his grill. - Helpful but unemployed relative comes by, needs some cash and decides to take the old tanks to the scrap yard. :bear_cry:

Bx3 | 01-24-2010 11:35 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 2144863) Some of us like to touch it. Some of us don't buy an entire ammo can's worth in one swoop and need a place to amass before burial. I, personally, would expect an ammo can to rust to pieces underground.
It takes me 10 minutes to access my cans and in the past three years there is not a spec of rust or moisture on the inside and no discernable rust on the outside . I also doubled them up so they are double walled so to speak. Military ammo cans are made to be buried. My house could burn, get robbed, flooded or flattened in an earthquake or tornado but my stash is good to go. Even a safe isn't safe when a gun is put to you or yours head. Don't ask me how I know. Oh yea, I carry a SAE in my pocket 24/7 so I always have some AG to fondle.:smile: Bx3

SLV>GLD | 01-24-2010 11:46 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Interesting anecdotes on the cans. I have a couple sitting in my basement and they are rusting. I have several full of ammo and they are rusting. Those are sitting in a climate controlled closet. They rust particularly bad at the hinges. They've been wiped down with CLP but yet they rust. It is worth noting that they were all bought used.

nickelless | 01-24-2010 11:48 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM How about putting your safe in the floor in your bedroom under the carpet, and then pile dirty underwear on top of the spot where your safe is? :biggrin:

mamboni | 01-24-2010 11:52 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Corbin Dallas (Post 2144867) Inside an old VCR, stored in a closet or on a shelf. Noone wants VCR's anymore. Just to be sure, put a post-it on it that says "broken".
Hiding a stash in a movable object, especially one that is obsolete, is risky: someone may decide to toss said object and you might not discover this until long afterwards. Or you may forget that you hid the stash in an object and discard it in error. Wherever you hide you stash, make certain it is not readily movable or discardable by accident. Saul's ideas are very clever.:yes:

mamboni | 01-24-2010 11:53 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by nickelless (Post 2144901) How about putting your safe in the floor in your bedroom under the carpet, and then pile dirty underwear on top of the spot where your safe is? :biggrin:
Yes! You can purchase underwear with embroidered skidmarks - guaranteed to discourage even the most desperate burglur!

HistoryStudent | 01-25-2010 12:11 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Buy the spay that smells like rotten eggs and spay it everday before you leave for work. Turn the heater up for EFFECT! :111::fan: "Boy, somthin' sure smells in here, this guy's a real stinkbag." THE perp SAYS AS HE HOLDS HIS NOSE... :yes:

nickelless | 01-25-2010 12:16 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2144932) Buy the spay that smells like rotten eggs and spay it everday before you leave for work. Turn the heater up for EFFECT! :111::fan: "Boy, somthin' sure smells in here, this guy's a real stinkbag." THE perp SAYS AS HE HOLDS HIS NOSE... :yes:
Gives a whole new meaning to SHTF!:biggrin:

Buyingsilvers | 01-25-2010 12:46 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM I personally am not a fan of hiding pms in junk, as there's a decent chance it'll get thrown out by someone who isn't "in the know". In the wall, under the floor, burial, even a SDB is better. You put PMs in a broken VCR labled "broken" and sooner or later, your kids or someone else will see it and dump it. "Geez, grandpa is such a packrat. Keeping broken crap in his closet".

Bx3 | 01-25-2010 12:46 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 2144900) Interesting anecdotes on the cans. I have a couple sitting in my basement and they are rusting. I have several full of ammo and they are rusting. Those are sitting in a climate controlled closet. They rust particularly bad at the hinges. They've been wiped down with CLP but yet they rust. It is worth noting that they were all bought used.
The condition of the cans is important. I had a source at a DRMO site where I used to be able to get cans by the dozens. I don't believe that there is a difference in the paint/protective barrier between the inside and outside of the cans but I did notice that cans and lids that were stored outside that were not together tended to rust from the inside quite easily while the cans/lids that were assembled and closed were unaffected by the elements. As I mentioned, I double them up as there are some sizes that will fit into one another with almost no wasted space which in effect creates a double walled barrier. I have had some in the ground now for over three years and when I have checked them they are completely dry inside the first can and obviously the second where the "package" is kept. There is only some very, very light surface rust areas where the paint barrier has been scratched on the outside of the outer cans. I would not be surprised to get at least another 5-10 years out of just the outer cans let alone the inner ones. Another important element is to make sure the seals are good and supple and not dried and cracked. The seals mostly go bad if the cans and lids have been stored outside separately. As for your cans SLV, instead of CLP you may also want to dry them real good and then spray them with some Rustoleum if they are already rusted. Some people claim that CLP has actually been known to cause rust on firearms. I don't know if this is true but I don't use CLP all the same as I do not personally believe that you can get the best performance out of a single product/formula that claims to both clean and lubricate (oxymoron if you know what I mean). Bx3

Wilhelm | 01-25-2010 01:23 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Bx3, if you buy these cans online can you link to the site? thanks

Heimdhal | 01-25-2010 02:17 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Bx3 is right, those surp cans will last the appocolypse as long as the seal is good and the paint isnt all scratched off. Another good place to hide stuff is under your bathoom sink. If you ha a cabinet there (not a stand alone sink), take the base panel off (the piece of wood under the doors, along the ground) Should have a nice open space. Put your stash in there, put the board back and there ya go.

Bx3 | 01-25-2010 11:36 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilhelm (Post 2145008) Bx3, if you buy these cans online can you link to the site? thanks
I don't have an online site. I would recommend trying to find a local mil surplus store. You may pay a little more but you could also save on shipping plus you can hand pick your cans and play with the different sizes that fit together. If your local store doesn't have a good selection of quality cans, you can still try to play with the different sizes and then order those from the internet. Gun shows are always an option as well. Bx3

Vicatoa | 01-25-2010 11:52 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM I'm thinking about installing a faux electric plug into the drywall of my closet. It will look like an outlet but will not be connected ? Good or bad idea? Thoughts ?

Stealinator | 01-25-2010 11:55 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 2145050) Bx3 is right, those surp cans will last the appocolypse as long as the seal is good and the paint isnt all scratched off. Another good place to hide stuff is under your bathoom sink. If you ha a cabinet there (not a stand alone sink), take the base panel off (the piece of wood under the doors, along the ground) Should have a nice open space. Put your stash in there, put the board back and there ya go.
Good stuff, do not know how I missed that one. AND I used to hate those fake drawers with the handle that did not open :wub:

Irons | 01-25-2010 12:45 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicatoa (Post 2145474) I'm thinking about installing a faux electric plug into the drywall of my closet. It will look like an outlet but will not be connected ? Good or bad idea? Thoughts ?
You can buy those pre made. Whether crooks look for fake sockets or not I can't answer. Attachment 86243 Amazon Amazon

Heimdhal | 01-25-2010 01:11 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 2145479) Good stuff, do not know how I missed that one. AND I used to hate those fake drawers with the handle that did not open :wub:
yeah, those are annoying as all hell. Its like a natural human impulse to see a handle and want to pull it, but noooooo, not those handles, they dont do anythign!!! :favorites21: We have them below our kitchen sink. Well, its not a handle per-se but an fake "drawer" face. I bought a think that allows you to install a hinge and basket behind it, so you CAN use it. HAHAHA, take that fake drawer makers!!! I have found your foible and defeated you! bancha

Dawg | 01-25-2010 04:38 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 2145050) Bx3 is right, those surp cans will last the appocolypse as long as the seal is good and the paint isnt all scratched off. Another good place to hide stuff is under your bathoom sink. If you ha a cabinet there (not a stand alone sink), take the base panel off (the piece of wood under the doors, along the ground) Should have a nice open space. Put your stash in there, put the board back and there ya go.
Not a very good idea.....I used to stash my 100oz silver bars under there, and we developed a leak under the sink, it was right over the shower stall in the basement, so naturally the wife and my son that uses that shower did not notice water dripping in the shower, the ceiling collapsed with one of those bars conking the kid in the head. He got 14 stitches.

Heimdhal | 01-25-2010 04:49 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg (Post 2145931) Not a very good idea.....I used to stash my 100oz silver bars under there, and we developed a leak under the sink, it was right over the shower stall in the basement, so naturally the wife and my son that uses that shower did not notice water dripping in the shower, the ceiling collapsed with one of those bars conking the kid in the head. He got 14 stitches.
wow! Yeah, I guess that could definitly cause a problem!

Nugginator | 01-25-2010 05:13 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM All this talk of stashing PM's has me thinking, do you tell someone about the hiding place and if it is your spouse, then say you are traveling together and you both are killed. No one knows about it then what? Kids out of luck, no preservation of wealth etc. What do you do? Disclose it in a will?

Dawg | 01-25-2010 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nugginator (Post 2145981) All this talk of stashing PM's has me thinking, do you tell someone about the hiding place and if it is your spouse, then say you are traveling together and you both are killed. No one knows about it then what? Kids out of luck, no preservation of wealth etc. What do you do? Disclose it in a will?
That is an excellent point, and definitely worthy of consideration. I recently saw a show on TV where a couple bought a house that had a piano among some other furnishings that were left behind after the owner passed away. They almost threw out the piano, but at the last minute they looked inside the piano and they found a box that contained numerous gold coins that had a substantial numismatic value.

kitsune | 01-25-2010 05:59 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugginator (Post 2145981) All this talk of stashing PM's has me thinking, do you tell someone about the hiding place and if it is your spouse, then say you are traveling together and you both are killed. No one knows about it then what? Kids out of luck, no preservation of wealth etc. What do you do? Disclose it in a will?
I made a series of "treasure maps" for the kids. :rofl: Ya know, "...Here's a key to a lock box in Minneapolis, go there and find the next clue!" Helps me feel even more like a crazy pirate with a bunch of rounds & bars.

Irons | 01-25-2010 06:29 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugginator (Post 2145981) All this talk of stashing PM's has me thinking, do you tell someone about the hiding place and if it is your spouse, then say you are traveling together and you both are killed. No one knows about it then what? Kids out of luck, no preservation of wealth etc. What do you do? Disclose it in a will?
Friends of my wife's bought a older house in Grand Haven MI, remodeling the bathroom they found an old steel can full of 1850 to 1902 copper and silver coins plastered into the wall. Unless a real oddball turns up they will still make around $6,000 on them. I think a lot of stackers just leave stuff behind.

Nugginator | 01-25-2010 06:42 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Irons (Post 2146095) Friends of my wife's bought a older house in Grand Haven MI, remodeling the bathroom they found an old steel can full of 1850 to 1902 copper and silver coins plastered into the wall. Unless a real oddball turns up they will still make around $6,000 on them. I think a lot of stackers just leave stuff behind.
That also has me thinking about how many jars of coins are buried around old homesteads across this country. You have to believe that during previous economically and politically challenging times, that homesteaders, hillbillies and soldiers have left some real treasure out there.

Bx3 | 01-25-2010 06:58 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Great question Nugginator. I took several pictures of each stash location so they could easily be triangulated/resectioned. A copy of the pictures plus instructions (disbursement, OPSEC), were sent to both my parents and my Wife's parents. They both live out of state. We have two very young children who are defined in the disbursement. If they perish also then it is clearly spelled out which family members get what. None of this information is in our will/trust to keep a low profile but my wife and I did both sign the instructions so that our families know what our final wishes are. No other evidence exists. Nothing is foolproof but it's the best compromise between security and accessibility I have personally found. If you don't have a trusted family member/friend who preferably lives out of state to confide in, you could always create two separate key codes that complete a given message/info when combined and then give them to two different family/friends who have no prior association. They will have to put the puzzle together but at least it will get done. Speaking of buried coins, there is a good doc on the History Chanel (I think) about Jesse James stash of Morgan dollars and Double Eagles that were buried in mason jars. Bx3

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HistoryStudent | 01-25-2010 08:53 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM In plain sight. I just use those 1,000 ounce bars as door stops. On them I write with a thick black permanent ink dealie "tungsten bars worth 50 cents a pound - $34.00 each if you can run down the street carrying 70 pounds faster than a speeding bullet!" :111:

Buyingsilvers | 01-25-2010 08:58 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM if your immediate blood relatives, whom you've disclosed the location to your stash all dies suddenly (along with you), I think PM inheritance would be the least of your worries.

Tallships | 01-25-2010 09:01 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM You could just put them inside your work boots. No thief or bum is ever going to take a pair of work boots.

4dabopper | 01-25-2010 09:04 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM "You could just put them inside your work boots." OK that takes care of 2-400 oz bars, what do you suggest for the rest:signs1::signs1:

Tallships | 01-25-2010 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 4dabopper (Post 2146407) "You could just put them inside your work boots." OK that takes care of 2-400 oz bars, what do you suggest for the rest:signs1::signs1:
If you have more than 800 oz of gold, you dont need to hide it. Your personal security team can guard it for you. Or you could just afford to stay home and sit on it with your shotgun.

mayhem | 01-25-2010 09:14 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Old school here. I use PVC pipe and a shovel.

Tallships | 01-25-2010 09:20 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM You could buy a plot in a graveyard and have a final resting place for your special friend Goldilocks Silverton.

HistoryStudent | 01-25-2010 11:06 PM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallships (Post 2146441) You could buy a plot in a graveyard and have a final resting place for your special friend Goldilocks Silverton.
I have two of those and never thought about PUTTING a few things there for the time being, right? :111::111::111: Darn things were expensive with the ocean view and all. Kinda gives new meaning to the WWII SONG, "I'll be seeing you in all our old familar places...that this heart of mine embraces.. " :ok:

nickelless | 01-28-2010 04:46 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM Quote:
Originally Posted by mayhem (Post 2146433) Old school here. I use PVC pipe and a shovel.
DON'T PUT SILVER INSIDE PVC PIPES!! You read it here first: http://goldismoney.info/forums/archi.../t-350814.html http://coins.about.com/od/caringforc...damage_faq.htm

hoarder | 01-28-2010 07:54 AM
Re: Good hiding spot for PM I buried some silver in ammo cans a few years ago. Before digging I laid a piece of plastic sheeting on the ground. That's where I emptied the shovel. I put the cans in and covered them with a piece of plastic. After refillining the hole there was dirt left over and I carried it 20 yards away and dumped it so it wouldn't look suspicious near the hole. I sold the property and dug it up a year later. The cans and contents were just like they were when I buried them. I wouldn't bury silver in steel cans if I lived in a salty coastal area. Another good way to bury silver, ammo and food is to buy a 15" diameter black plastic double walled culvert and bury it somewhat horizontally on sloped ground with one end near the surface. The open end would be a little downhil from the other end. The outside of these culverts are corrugated and the inside is smooth. You can slide many 5 gallon buckets of goodies in them and cover up the hole. You can do this in a way that the contents are too deep to find with a metal detector. It helps if you have a backhoe. Get all your fondling done beforehand if you must. Get it out of your system as it serves no useful purpose.

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