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Bullionaire | 02-08-2006 10:01 AM
Serious question for all...... Let us say gold fullfills its destiny and gets up to 1500-2000+. In what instrament will you cash out? Let us suggest you have LOTS of gold......Cash out in dollars? At that point you are probably getting terminally ill fiat. In some other foreign currency? Same probable likelyhood? Is there any countries currency going to be worth a flip? Will the gubberment allow you to convert currencies? Talk about a huge papertrail........you best be gone....... Will you have to wheelbarrow it across the Canadian border and peddle it? Get the Fiat and quickly buy a grass hut in Tahiti? Get the fiat and buy a vegas condo and screen test party girls? Buy an island? Wait, the $200.00 silver guys will have done that.... Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense?? Sorry Ponce, your compound does not excite me.... GLTA

Ponce Cuba | 02-08-2006 10:07 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Lol Bull, like I wrote elsewhere......"When silver reaches $100.00 I will sell it and take my check overseas where I will change it to another currency and then buy my Silver Island and get the hell out of here"..... I mean, to sell PM and get fiat with no plan is kind of stupid.

Large Sarge | 02-08-2006 10:19 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Well, I think $2000.00 is probably a bit conservative on Golds Topside... But things to do with that funnymoney called FIAT 1. Pay off all debt 2. If Real estate is back to reasonable levels consider that. 3. When interest rates peak, or near peak, and trust is being gained in paper assets again, look at Bonds.... 4. businesses 5. stocks if valuations are more normal. (say 6-8 P/e, instead of 22-25 like today) Those are a few, a lot of this depends on the individuals personal set of circumstances.... Age? Debt level? Married? etc

silverJeep | 02-08-2006 10:29 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Hoping I can collect enough before it goes through the roof... I would imagine you could tade precious metals for land. That being said, I will sell (or trade) , get a huge pc. of land, build a castle and be king of my woooooooooorrrrrrld !!

Someone_else | 02-08-2006 10:30 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
In what instrament will you cash out?
I don't really expect to "cash out", but then again the precious metals are not an end in themselves either, so eventually I would expect to use them to buy things I want. If the dollar is inflating, but still the normally accepted currency, then it would probably be easiest to just trade for dollars as needed. This is assuming that the dollar does not inflate appreciably in the course of a few weeks or months. On the other hand, if the dollar is in free-fall, then we can probably expect people to be thinking more about barter, perhaps starting with an occasional item of real value as a "kicker" and eventually progressing to where paper notes become the lesser value "kicker" in the trade. Somewhere in between, it may become common for any large transaction to require some barter item of real value along with the paper money. This would be even more likely if the government imposed rationing or other controls. It may even be necessary to the point where a seller will not even consider a deal until the buyer brings some non-FRN consideration to the deal, whether it be above the table or not. (This implies that those with the goods of real worth will be in a good position for competing with those who do not). I don't know if I really expect the worst case scenario, so I will probably just plan on using my modest collection of coins to help out here and there :-)

SilverNuts@Bolts | 02-08-2006 10:44 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Buy land in the US and also in a foreign country is probably on everyones mind. My strategy would be first, to convert silver into gold, which [shall we say] reduces weight. By then, if there are no travel restrictions, take off, with a roll of AU, with which you can buy some land. Perhaps an account in Switzerland would be a good idea so as not to have to travel, with AU on you. I also think, that by then something like the DOW may be at a low of [say] 3000 and buying cheap stocks, could also be considered. I know, I know, stocks are on the s*it list. But the index, at that point will serve as a hedge against inflation and will be a good buy-in point. Consider buying some, for your children or grandchildren. Also, giving a "goldpiece" to your loved ones at that point will be the same, as giving away a fortune. What else is there?

HistoryStudent | 02-08-2006 05:26 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverNuts@Bolts Buy land in the US and also in a foreign country is probably on everyones mind. My strategy would be first, to convert silver into gold, which [shall we say] reduces weight. By then, if there are no travel restrictions, take off, with a roll of AU, with which you can buy some land. Perhaps an account in Switzerland would be a good idea so as not to have to travel, with AU on you. I also think, that by then something like the DOW may be at a low of [say] 3000 and buying cheap stocks, could also be considered. I know, I know, stocks are on the s*it list. But the index, at that point will serve as a hedge against inflation and will be a good buy-in point. Consider buying some, for your children or grandchildren. Also, giving a "goldpiece" to your loved ones at that point will be the same, as giving away a fortune. What else is there?
Good thought behind the post. Also remember in 1979 - 1980 folks with bags of silver took them in and each bag bought an apartment. So four bags was good enough for a four-plex. Who knows what the prices will be: but, Bullion did mention that the FIAT system could be gone. Frankly, the fiat system will never be gone: it will MORPH into a new fiat system. Plastic smart cards inbedded, inbedded security chips, inbedded debit-credit cards, or something like that. Some positive ID chip or eye scan. There is always an item to buy that will be undervalued because the people hate it. Like, think gold in 2001 at $255.00!

HistoryStudent | 02-08-2006 05:27 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverNuts@Bolts Buy land in the US and also in a foreign country is probably on everyones mind. My strategy would be first, to convert silver into gold, which [shall we say] reduces weight. By then, if there are no travel restrictions, take off, with a roll of AU, with which you can buy some land. Perhaps an account in Switzerland would be a good idea so as not to have to travel, with AU on you. I also think, that by then something like the DOW may be at a low of [say] 3000 and buying cheap stocks, could also be considered. I know, I know, stocks are on the s*it list. But the index, at that point will serve as a hedge against inflation and will be a good buy-in point. Consider buying some, for your children or grandchildren. Also, giving a "goldpiece" to your loved ones at that point will be the same, as giving away a fortune. What else is there?
Good thought behind the post. Also remember in 1979 - 1980 folks with bags of silver took them in and four each bag bought an apartment. So four bags was good enough for a four-plex or a GREAT home. Who knows what the prices will be: but, Bullion did mention that the FIAT system could be gone. Frankly, the fiat system will never be gone: it will MORPH into a new fiat system. Plastic smart cards inbedded, inbedded security chips, inbedded debit-credit cards, or something like that. Some positive ID chip or eye scan. There is always an item to buy that will be undervalued because the people hate it. Like, think gold in 2001 at $255.00!

TheKingsSon | 02-08-2006 06:55 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent Frankly, the fiat system will never be gone: it will MORPH into a new fiat system. Plastic smart cards inbedded, inbedded security chips, inbedded debit-credit cards, or something like that. Some positive ID chip or eye scan.
Yes indeed it will: Re 13:16,17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. BTW: That verse is ONLY found as you see it here, in what I believe to be the ONLY real True, PURE word of God for the ENGLISH people (AV)

Prometheus | 02-08-2006 07:01 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Don't cash out until you are ready to spend it. Be it on a big screen tv or a new house. That'd be my advice. If you need to cash out (because you think the PMs are going to tumble) and don't want any fiat sitting around, buy other tangibles, like investment properties, guns, ammo, whatever. I have a feeling that once PM's do the moon orbit, fiat is going to be very unstable.

Barebull | 02-08-2006 09:05 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... For gold to get that high will probably mean that property will be comparatively cheap. So that will be one good place to invest the returns from selling. Not just north america either. Other than that, the same conditions which caused gold to explode will mean that the stock market will have had the crap beaten out of it. When things look like the ecomony is stable enough, it will be a good time to be investing in the DOW. That can be ridden back up as you have done with gold. Contrarianism 101

gjc | 02-08-2006 10:04 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... So, does anybody think that Canada would be a good place for a US resident like myself to get another property? If not, what other "foreign" country should one look to get a place at, ideally? Thanks...

melbo | 02-08-2006 10:26 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... I'm not too thrilled with Can myself. Costa Rica is already too "discovered". ie already getting high Nicaraugua has about an $.18 on the dollar COL I'm told. Dominican Republic? Still a little dangerous? some good Expat stuff here: http://www.escapeartist.com/ Lot of folks I know are discussing this very thing right now. Ship is sinking I'm afraid

gjc | 02-09-2006 01:09 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Yeah, I'm not really thrilled with Canada's gun control laws, which is why I wanted to ask about other places...

Pragmatist | 02-09-2006 01:26 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... My goal is to be a semi-retired expatriot by 2013. I was looking at Belize or Argentina. As someone else mentioned Costa Rica is looking passe. However, things in the south are looking increasingly unstable. Not only politically but also with what may be an emerging trend in hurricanes. I have always liked New Mexico. Affordable but it might really be Nuevo Mexico by then. I recently began looking at Iceland, believe it or not. It looks very attractive for many reasons. Small, educated population and the weather actually looks quite mild. Beautiful women, mostly of Irish and Scottish decent. I have plenty of time to plan but that is what I am looking into right now. Prag :tongue:

Tn...Andy | 02-09-2006 06:53 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... I don't plan to convert any in the future expect to buy things I need. Have no debts to pay off.....don't need any more land.....etc.....so I don't look at my PMs as an "investment" to be converted in the hopes of chasing paper profits.......I hold them as a savings hedge that doesn't look to likely to decrease in value as the FRN does....you know, one of the functions of money....."a storage of wealth". If my property taxes remain somewhat stable for example,( it can't go TOO nuts or the county would simply end up owning all the property) and the PM/FRN ratio goes wild, I would, for example, convert enough PM to pay them once a year. Be nice to pay my taxes with 5 silver rounds I bought for 25 FRNs......ahahahaaaaaaaa A few ounces of silver a month to buy groceries, etc....maybe a few dimes a month to hire part time farm help......and so on....... I have no grandiose plans to run of to TimBuckToo or buy a zillion shares of Microshit.

Keef | 02-09-2006 08:39 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Gold/silver for me is just in case TSHTF. Break glass when needed type of insurance. The fact that it is a great investment is secondary. Hoped to be out of the country before Hillary gets elected. Cuz that's when I believe the new Patriot Act becomes a nightmare. I would like to live somewhere where a world depression won't matter much cuz the people are used to living on little/nothing. Oh well, time will tell.

rad | 02-09-2006 09:47 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... I finally applied for a passport mid january and I'm going to half-time at my job in April. I will start looking for new home, Canada and Chile are the top on my list. Pretty sad cause I'm the 13th generation in USA in my family, human melting pot with brown hair and eyes. Have had family members in all the wars back to an ancestor Festus in 1776. I don't think the USA is the USA any more. I am afraid we are descending into fascism. I think that it is possible that the cabal will attack the US again or trigger the financial meltdown to further extend their powers. Since they don't count our votes anymore I am voting with my feet before they close the borders. I'm also moving my assets out while I still can.

SilverNuts@Bolts | 02-09-2006 10:22 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... I wodn't dismiss Canada, just like that, after all, that's where I live right now. Gun laws?, I think the new government will kick that idea out the window..Doesn't matter anyways, a lot of people "forget" to register. There are very few countries on this planet, that are as good a destination for US citizens, as Canada is. For many, many years it has become home, for people of your country, that didn't like or had run inns with the US government or laws, including time of wars [like now]. If you stay out of Quebec, you can use the English language, in all the other provences, you can become a refuge, you can become a citizen, in the right circumstances. Living here, you will be close to the "old country", US currency can still be used, Most goods are still quite cheap, compaired to other countries. Just the other day, I was reading about Canadian islands beeing scooped up by Americans, taking advantage of laws in your favour [such as title to the land, in your name, which is quite rare, for non-citizens]. No confiscation treaths here, but given, where we are heading in economic terms, that might change. For now, there is not even a hint, of such an event. Safest country in the world, unless invaded by the US.

AMforPM | 02-09-2006 10:45 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... rad, it was thinking that retiring, or at least traveling abroad might be a better life till things settle down here that led me to really look at the economy and get into PMs. Canada, Costa Rica, and New Zealand are high on our lists. The good part is all are beautiful, and we intended to travel anyway, so it kind of works out to be lemonade from a sour old lemon.

HistoryStudent | 02-09-2006 03:57 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... A number of Americans LIVE in MEXICO - and always have. There are books on living in Spanish speaking countries. I'd like a dual citizenship dealie.

gjc | 02-09-2006 05:03 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... So about Mexico...what do you guys think of it as a place to possibly escape to?

hoarder | 02-09-2006 05:39 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Going to Mexico would be like going from the frying pan to the fire. TPTB are not the least bit hindered by borders. They may focus their efforts on the US for strategic reasons, but in Mexico it's much easier for them to screw any dissenters because of the corrupt power structure and the even more apathetic population.

HistoryStudent | 02-09-2006 06:18 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullionaire Let us say gold fullfills its destiny and gets up to 1500-2000+. In what instrament will you cash out? Let us suggest you have LOTS of gold......Cash out in dollars? At that point you are probably getting terminally ill fiat. In some other foreign currency? Same probable likelyhood? Is there any countries currency going to be worth a flip? Will the gubberment allow you to convert currencies? Talk about a huge papertrail........you best be gone....... Will you have to wheelbarrow it across the Canadian border and peddle it? Get the Fiat and quickly buy a grass hut in Tahiti? Get the fiat and buy a vegas condo and screen test party girls? Buy an island? Wait, the $200.00 silver guys will have done that.... Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense?? Sorry Ponce, your compound does not excite me.... GLTA
Why do you have to cash out? Why trade the ultimate currency for some paper stuff? Only cash out to get something really cheap like gold was in 1999-2001. Then you really move fast.

lhslancers | 02-09-2006 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy I don't plan to convert any in the future expect to buy things I need. Have no debts to pay off.....don't need any more land.....etc.....so I don't look at my PMs as an "investment" to be converted in the hopes of chasing paper profits.......I hold them as a savings hedge that doesn't look to likely to decrease in value as the FRN does....you know, one of the functions of money....."a storage of wealth". If my property taxes remain somewhat stable for example,( it can't go TOO nuts or the county would simply end up owning all the property) and the PM/FRN ratio goes wild, I would, for example, convert enough PM to pay them once a year. Be nice to pay my taxes with 5 silver rounds I bought for 25 FRNs......ahahahaaaaaaaa A few ounces of silver a month to buy groceries, etc....maybe a few dimes a month to hire part time farm help......and so on....... I have no grandiose plans to run of to TimBuckToo or buy a zillion shares of Microshit.
I don't blame you Andy. Lots of folks up here would like to get a nice place down your way and escape the bull$hit that comes at you every. :beer:

Your Rabbi | 02-10-2006 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hoarder Going to Mexico would be like going from the frying pan to the fire. TPTB are not the least bit hindered by borders. They may focus their efforts on the US for strategic reasons, but in Mexico it's much easier for them to screw any dissenters because of the corrupt power structure and the even more apathetic population.
Mexico is an intriging possiblity. It's true that more Americans are living there these days, but I'm not sure how safe you would be, if desperate times are ahead. The first problem is the perception of who you are. It will be assumed that you are in a better way then most of the residents, so you will be a mark. Unless you have friends, locals of means and influence, you will have to pay for your safety and protection of your assets. No matter what you do, even if you marry into a local family, you will always be a gringo. And I'd rather be a gringo in Canada or New Zealand than Mexico. Secondly, is the culture of corruption of oppression. Too many 'La Raza' will be looking for opportunities to better themselves on your behalf if TSHTF. Just my $.02.

Ponce Cuba | 02-10-2006 12:28 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Rabbi? why don't you just go to the state of Israel? I mean you will be with your own people and help them fight the incoming world war against "terrorists". WARNING PEOPLE.....THIS JOKER KNEW MY FIRST NAME AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HIM.

HistoryStudent | 02-10-2006 01:20 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... "I'll bless those that bless thee, and curse those that curse thee!" The Lord GOD in the Bible talking about Israel to Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Not smart to get cursed. I think. GOD said it, I believe it, that settles it. For me and my family we will follow the LORD.

citizenkane | 02-10-2006 02:10 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... The more I think about it the more "damned if do and damned if dont" I feel. If gold goes to 2000 or more what do you think bread, milk, gas and taxes are going to do? go up. alot. we'll be millioniares just like those new multi-millionaires in zimbabwe http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/inflation51.13704.html Cant eat gold or silver, cant keep the cold out or the predators away and cant take it for the flu. It has value because of what we give it. If the SHTF and it was bad Would I trade you one of my excess hunting rifles for your useless shiny metal or would I trade with the man next to you who has 3 goats, a bag of sweet potatoes and a box of vitamins? potential value vs real value at that point.

HistoryStudent | 02-10-2006 02:22 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenkane The more I think about it the more "damned if do and damned if dont" I feel. If gold goes to 2000 or more what do you think bread, milk, gas and taxes are going to do? go up. alot. we'll be millioniares just like those new multi-millionaires in zimbabwe http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/inflation51.13704.html Cant eat gold or silver, cant keep the cold out or the predators away and cant take it for the flu. It has value because of what we give it. If the SHTF and it was bad Would I trade you one of my excess hunting rifles for your useless shiny metal or would I trade with the man next to you who has 3 goats, a bag of sweet potatoes and a box of vitamins? potential value vs real value at that point.
You are right about that. At 20% each year right now all countries are inflating so that prices double every three years anyway - and IT EASILY could get a lot worse. No country has a brake on the money printing - they like it 24/7 in secret. More money is a secret way to extra tax the lemmings (taxpayers).

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Your Rabbi | 02-10-2006 02:31 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenkane The more I think about it the more "damned if do and damned if dont" I feel. If gold goes to 2000 or more what do you think bread, milk, gas and taxes are going to do? go up. alot. we'll be millioniares just like those new multi-millionaires in zimbabwe http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/inflation51.13704.html Cant eat gold or silver, cant keep the cold out or the predators away and cant take it for the flu. It has value because of what we give it. If the SHTF and it was bad Would I trade you one of my excess hunting rifles for your useless shiny metal or would I trade with the man next to you who has 3 goats, a bag of sweet potatoes and a box of vitamins? potential value vs real value at that point.
I couldn't agree more. You need to take a balanced, diversified approach to ensure you can provide for yourself and your familiy's welfare.

silverJeep | 02-10-2006 02:37 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Hey Rabbi, I'll go ahead and ask... How did you know Ponce's real name? Do you know mine? I'll be looking for a new job next week, do you know where I'll be working? That could really help me out. :applause_ Are you really a Rabbi? SilverJeep

Tn...Andy | 02-10-2006 02:49 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... More money is a secret way to extra tax the lemmings Also a GREAT way to borrow money today and pay it back over 10-30 years in far cheaper fiat.....which is of course simply another form of taxation.....but one of the primary reasons they do it. I understand what you are saying there CitizenKane.......and agree largely. The only reason I hold ANY PMs is in case it doesn't get THAT bad before I'm ready to check out....or in the event we pass thru it relatively quickly and come out on the other side with a real money currency again. Most of what I 'save' is in the form of what you speak.

chewy | 02-10-2006 03:33 PM
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Too many 'La Raza' will be looking for opportunities to better themselves on your behalf if TSHTF. Just my $.02.
You need to go to Mexico and check it out. It may challenge your preconceptions. I lived there in 2004. La Raza is an LA "chicano" thing. You ain't gonna find too many of those guys deep in Mexico. They stand out like a searchlight and get a lot of attention from the local cops. It can be very conservative in Mexico especially in Colima where I lived. I never had ANY problems with cops in Mexico. They know who is who and who belongs and who don't. And homies from the hood (American Style) definatly don't belong. If you look like a tourist you will be judged, of course. But just be polite, dress conservatively, attempt to speak Spanish (important), don't get mad for any reason (BIG NO-NO) and generally be pleasant and you'll be fine. You have to do your homework on it. There are about 57 different types of cops there (not much of an exageration). I don't want to go into an explanation of LA MORDIDA here. It would be a small book, and I had many of my fondest preconceptions shattered by actually living there. Suffice to say if you use some common sense in Mexico you will never have any problems. I chose not to live in Mexico as my bug out location. It could work for lots of people though, depends what you need. I'll be in Chile on August 1st. If you are just starting to think about an exit strategy you need to hurry up! "Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense??" Yeah, My exit plan makes sense for me anyway... but I ain't talking about it until after August 1st. I love my country but I choose not to live here for the foreseeable future.

Your Rabbi | 02-10-2006 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by silverJeep Hey Rabbi, I'll go ahead and ask... How did you know Ponce's real name? Do you know mine? I'll be looking for a new job next week, do you know where I'll be working? That could really help me out. :applause_ Are you really a Rabbi? SilverJeep
Understand that I joined this forum to educate myself about precious metals, economics and world events from a contrarian perspective. I enjoy reading your posts, especially those from Tn�Andy & Scorpio. I contribute, of course, when I�m taking a break from planning world domination. Hehe!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Now onto your questions�..<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> How did you know <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ponce</st1:place></st1:City>'s real name?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Lucky guess? <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Do you know mine?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> You seem like a nice guy. You want I should know your Christian name?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I'll be looking for a new job next week, do you know where I'll be working? That could really help me out. <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></v:path><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape id=_x0000_i1025 style="WIDTH: 15pt; HEIGHT: 22.5pt" type="#_x0000_t75" alt=""><v:imagedata o:href="http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/images/smilies/applause_smiley.gif" src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\Stan\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\03\clip_im age001.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Not certain, but if you tell me where you would like to work, I�ll put in a good word in for you with the Cabal.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Are you really a Rabbi?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I�m the baddest Heb west of Tel Aviv!<o:p></o:p>

GOLD DUCK | 02-10-2006 04:56 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... QWAK, "I�m the baddest Heb west of Tel Aviv!"==<o:p></o:p> I believe I may have heard of the Rabi,a long time back. Bad BAD "Heb Roy Brown" Baddest Heb in the WHOLE damn TOWN! Then agen it could have been "Roger RABBIT", I tend to get confused over NAMES! :rofl: :cheerful: :beer: HE HE HE the DUCK

HistoryStudent | 02-10-2006 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullionaire Let us say gold fullfills its destiny and gets up to 1500-2000+. In what instrament will you cash out? Let us suggest you have LOTS of gold......Cash out in dollars? At that point you are probably getting terminally ill fiat. In some other foreign currency? Same probable likelyhood? Is there any countries currency going to be worth a flip? Will the gubberment allow you to convert currencies? Talk about a huge papertrail........you best be gone....... Will you have to wheelbarrow it across the Canadian border and peddle it? Get the Fiat and quickly buy a grass hut in Tahiti? Get the fiat and buy a vegas condo and screen test party girls? Buy an island? Wait, the $200.00 silver guys will have done that.... Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense?? Sorry Ponce, your compound does not excite me.... GLTA
I really thought about this and find it IRONIC. The reason is that way back in 1980 gold did hit around $850 and change. The question is about gold today hitting twice that to around $1700 to $2000, right? Well way back in 1980 we only had ONE-FIFTH of the dollars that we have now. So the question is not really about gold but about a dollar that has lost 80% of it BUYING power. Gold is still the same ounce or whatever it was in 1980 and the dollar has robbed the savers/holders out of 80% PLUS of their old purchasing power. Buy a car or home or ALMOST anything big. Gold has really been held back. Imagine if it went to, say, five times what it was back in 1980! What happened in 1980? Only the interest rates were at 22% t save the dollar inflated by the wars on Vietnam and poverty which we LOST (BOTH!). Don't worry about the gold: worry about the dollar when the BIG INFLATION hits. P.S. TPTB are hidding the growth of it starting next month. They are proabably going to cut way back on INFLATION, right? Shake your head from side to side - then you'll get it!

melbo | 02-10-2006 06:41 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... On Mexico... Here's 22,000 acres, 6 homes, a church and a bunch of barns for $1,000,000 USD ---- GIM compound? http://www.eaglestar.net/ism1-.html I don't think I posted this link yet but forgive if I did. 22691 acres For $1,000,000 USD Ranch/Farm in Canatlan, Durango, Mexico, of 22,691 of timberland with 124 acres of agriculture use, capacity to hold 2,000 head, a lot of water and trees, 4 kinds of pastures, 2 springs, 5 year round ponds and 10 seasonal ponds and 2 wells with wind pumps. There are also 5 sets of corrals with water squeeze chutes, 6 houses, 6 barns, 2 employer buildings, 1 church, 2 stables for horses, all is fenced with 5 and 7 wires with several divisions for cattle raising. The wildlife are deer and turkeys, about 4 miles of a town, 16 miles from a main highway, 20 miles from Canatlan, Durango and 51 miles from the state capital of Durango. There are several dams and an abundance of apple trees in the area, there are also 62 miles of interior, topography is flat to rolling hills.

hoarder | 02-10-2006 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by melbo 22691 acres For $1,000,000 USD
Pretty good hunting lease. More than likely all it is. I doubt you get title. Even if you did, what would it mean? They don't like you they kick you off and take it.

lhslancers | 02-10-2006 07:08 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Mexico? No freaking way.

Your Rabbi | 02-10-2006 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chewy You need to go to Mexico and check it out. It may challenge your preconceptions. I lived there in 2004. La Raza is an LA "chicano" thing. You ain't gonna find too many of those guys deep in Mexico. They stand out like a searchlight and get a lot of attention from the local cops. It can be very conservative in Mexico especially in Colima where I lived. I never had ANY problems with cops in Mexico. They know who is who and who belongs and who don't. And homies from the hood (American Style) definatly don't belong. If you look like a tourist you will be judged, of course. But just be polite, dress conservatively, attempt to speak Spanish (important), don't get mad for any reason (BIG NO-NO) and generally be pleasant and you'll be fine. You have to do your homework on it. There are about 57 different types of cops there (not much of an exageration). I don't want to go into an explanation of LA MORDIDA here. It would be a small book, and I had many of my fondest preconceptions shattered by actually living there. Suffice to say if you use some common sense in Mexico you will never have any problems. I chose not to live in Mexico as my bug out location. It could work for lots of people though, depends what you need. I'll be in Chile on August 1st. If you are just starting to think about an exit strategy you need to hurry up! "Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense??" Yeah, My exit plan makes sense for me anyway... but I ain't talking about it until after August 1st. I love my country but I choose not to live here for the foreseeable future.
You�re right in that the �cholo� culture in the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> is not represented for the most part in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Mexico</st1:country-region></st1:place>. Most of the population is good, decent folk. I think <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Mexico</st1:country-region></st1:place> could be an attractive option if TSHTF if your living arrangements are structured properly. I agree that if you don�t look for trouble you probably will be fine.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And I understand your experience was positive Chewy, or is it �Chuy�? It seems like you blended in quite well. Btw, I have an amigo Jesus; we call him �Chuy�!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> My comments were directed towards those whose time in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region> was going to Cabo with your buddies for a weekend bachelor party.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I travel by car (sometimes private charter) to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Mexico</st1:country-region></st1:place>, mostly Baja, a few times a year on business. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I know when I�m down there I keep my head on a swivel. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> When I cross the border I have contribute some swag to the friendly �imigrante� despite assurances by �the Fox� that corruption is a thing of the past. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> On the drive down, we drive together in a caravan to discourage banditos. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If I�m in the sticks and someone drives up on me or tries to flag me down, I know they don�t want be to me to stop because they want to ask directions. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> When I reach my destination my first stop is to visit the to local �law� enforcement to let them know I�m in town and wouldn�t they mind keeping an eye on my vehicle (for a few shekels, of course).<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I�ve had friends kidnapped and held for ransom, driven around in a VW �taxi� outside Mexico city with a burlap sack tied around their head for a couple of days and I�ve witnessed my share of petty theft.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I could say the same thing about the seedier areas of LA or NY. Maybe I just have friends in shall we say - low places and I attract the local riff-raff, haha!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> My point is that prospective immigrants should be aware of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region>�s dark side. To the general population you are an outsider and ultimately you have little recompense should you have issues with your neighbors, la policia, or those chaps who might prey on foreigners in a SHTF scenario - Unless you have important friends or bring �mucho dinero�.<o:p></o:p>

hoarder | 02-10-2006 07:39 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Interesting post, my Rabbi. Another point some of might want to give some thought to is US-Mexico relations in general. They have been OK the last few decades in spite of Mexico walking all over us. What if some time in the future this catches up with them and Americans close their border and shoot invaders? I wouldn't want to be down there or even hold property (lease) when that happens. We have more reasons to invade Mexico than we did Iraq or Afganistan, the only reason we invaded the latter is because TPTB wanted it that way.

Ponce Cuba | 02-10-2006 07:43 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Remember that in Germany a loaf of bread went from 0.45 cents to 2 millons but at the same time one oz of gold went to 50 millions....you will be safe all the way on the golden road, or silver road like with Ponce :aetsch:

Your Rabbi | 02-10-2006 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hoarder Interesting post, my Rabbi. Another point some of might want to give some thought to is US-Mexico relations in general. They have been OK the last few decades in spite of Mexico walking all over us. What if some time in the future this catches up with them and Americans close their border and shoot invaders?
Like that movie 'Day After Tommorow' when Mexico sealed the border with the U.S. because of mass reverse migration! Haha!

silverJeep | 02-10-2006 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Your Rabbi <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> How did you know <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ponce</st1:place></st1:City>'s real name?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Lucky guess? <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Do you know mine?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> You seem like a nice guy. You want I should know your Christian name?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I'll be looking for a new job next week, do you know where I'll be working? That could really help me out. <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"></v:path><o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape id=_x0000_i1025 style="WIDTH: 15pt; HEIGHT: 22.5pt" alt="" type="#_x0000_t75"><v:imagedata src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\Stan\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\03\clip_im age001.gif" o:href="http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/images/smilies/applause_smiley.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Not certain, but if you tell me where you would like to work, I�ll put in a good word in for you with the Cabal.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Are you really a Rabbi?<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I�m the baddest Heb west of Tel Aviv!<o:p></o:p>
OK... I think i know all i need. Just wanted to see if i was right.

chewy | 02-10-2006 11:54 PM
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And I understand your experience was positive Chewy, or is it �Chuy�? It seems like you blended in quite well.
No, it's chewy. As in Chewbacca. I'm Portuguese, Italian and French as far as ancestry so I did blend in pretty well despite my lousy Spanish. Quote:
I�ve had friends kidnapped and held for ransom, driven around in a VW �taxi� outside Mexico city with a burlap sack tied around their head for a couple of days and I�ve witnessed my share of petty theft.
How the heck did they get into that predicament? They had to have violated some common sense precautions? I think 90% of your safety is blending in, dressing like the locals (within reason), speaking the language (at least trying to) and being aware of the customs and your surroundings. One time I was hanging out in the plaza in Sahueyo, Michoacan talking with this tourist American girl and she remarked that all the local guys were staring at her ass. I pointed out the skirt she was wearing was way too short. Old ladies were looking her with the "tut-tut" "for shame" kinda look, just totally a whore as far as the locals were concerned. She had no concept of "ethnics." Blending in a little, not calling attention to herself. I told her to put on some pants next time, you ain't in Kansas anymore. ;-) It's amazing to me people think they're back home or something and they can do things just like back home. It's just common sense, your not gonna go cruising Compton why would you do that in Mexico City? Some of these people... Your gonna get shit-faced and then start wandering around some neighborhood late at night? I enjoyed it there but it's not my first choice. The mid-size cities are pretty liveable, have everything you need without being too big. I like Colima, Manzanillo, Morelia, Queretaro, San Luis Potosi, Aguascalientes. Like you said it can be a bit "wild west" out in the countryside. Mexico is an acquired taste I think. :bandito:

Ponce Cuba | 02-11-2006 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by silverJeep OK... I think i know all i need. Just wanted to see if i was right.
Hahahahahaha Silver, funny and thanks. I know know the Rabbit is full of it. If he was real I would say that's the way they operate, they first sent in a "scout" and then little by little more and more of them come into the land and before you know it they take over......I was wondering if the Rabbit was the scout.

Your Rabbi | 02-11-2006 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba Hahahahahaha Silver, funny and thanks. I know know the Rabbit is full of it. If he was real I would say that's the way they operate, they first sent in a "scout" and then little by little more and more of them come into the land and before you know it they take over......I was wondering if the Rabbit was the scout.
Mr. Ponce de Leon, you can relax. I can assure you I am not a 'scout'.

Au_Ag | 02-12-2006 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba WARNING PEOPLE.....THIS JOKER KNEW MY FIRST NAME AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HIM.
Usually doesn't take tremendous effort to identify a poster. It takes quite a bit of effort to be truly anonymous. The fact of the matter is that everyone needs to be careful on the net. You might consider that in the future you want to be more careful in your postings. You were quite rude to him. If you have no concept of how he got your name you probably ought to seriously consider being more polite to people on the net. In this case, my guess is that the Rabbi is not gonna cause anybody serious problems that doesn't cause him problems. Consider yourself lucky if it turns out that he isn't one of the true wackos that can be found on the net. I believe that if I were you, I would quit making rude comments to him. My further guess is that you have no concept of what can occur when a truly knowledgeable nutcase makes you as a focal point in his life. Regards Ken L

GOLD DUCK | 02-12-2006 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Au_Ag Usually doesn't take tremendous effort to identify a poster. It takes quite a bit of effort to be truly anonymous. The fact of the matter is that everyone needs to be careful on the net. You might consider that in the future you want to be more careful in your postings. You were quite rude to him. If you have no concept of how he got your name you probably ought to seriously consider being more polite to people on the net. In this case, my guess is that the Rabbi is not gonna cause anybody serious problems that doesn't cause him problems. Consider yourself lucky if it turns out that he isn't one of the true wackos that can be found on the net. I believe that if I were you, I would quit making rude comments to him. My further guess is that you have no concept of what can occur when a truly knowledgeable nutcase makes you as a focal point in his life. Regards Ken L
QWAK,HUMmmmmmm a Rabbi Ciber HIT MAN ---- sort of -- "Have YAMICA will Travel" sort of guy? I guess it IS posable, I have meet some seariously KINKY ladies on the inter net SOooooooo I supose any thing is pasable. I wonder IF the Rabbi has a REALY cool theam song TOO?:clap2: ROTFL the DUCK

Ponce Cuba | 02-12-2006 12:39 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... I'd rather be more "polite" to a pig than to a smelly freaking mother so and os of a Zionist wanabe Jew....... any problem with that?

Au_Ag | 02-12-2006 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba I'd rather be more "polite" to a pig than to a smelly freaking mother so and os of a Zionist wanabe Jew....... any problem with that?
I don't have a problem. Quite possibly you will with your attitude and manner. Is this how you treat people in real life? If a Jew moves next door are you going to communicate with him like you do in this forum? You really think your behaviour is acceptable just because you're on the net? You may go years or the rest of your life on the net and never have a problem. However, with your attitude you may run into a knowledgeable person and run into more problems than you have ever dreamed.You think you're never gonna run into a Jew that's a for real hacker? The spillover could be quite detrimental to this forum. Have a nice day _grin_ Regards Ken L

GoldStein | 02-12-2006 01:36 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... thanks for the heads up. More of us on the way. You Goy are getting a little uppity eh? Shalom

Atahualpa | 02-12-2006 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba I'd rather be more "polite" to a pig than to a smelly freaking mother so and os of a Zionist wanabe Jew....... any problem with that?
Are you looking for attention? It is very curious that your would advertise your location w/photos, pictures of your cars, bragging that you have a large quantity of silver buried under a trash pile in a gun safe, that you have a sign out in your yard that says "NO USrael", ect. All anybody would have to do is find your general area (you have provided many details in narrowing that down) and then ask any UPS, FedEx, or USPS driver (or most any local for that matter) where the Cuban guy with the No USrael sign in his yard lives...lol! Not too smart Hombre.

Ponce Cuba | 02-12-2006 02:04 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... The Zionists wanabe Jewish monkeys already knows where I live at.....they are welcome to rock and roll with me anytime they like to. To be afraid in life of anyone is to be a prisoner for ever withing your body. I admire more those who blow themselves up in order to kill a Zionist than a Zionist that behind the safety of a wall all they do is to press a button in order to send out a missile.....and that's why the Palestinians-Arabs (Muslims) will win at the end. What make the Zionists brave is their weapons and not their soul as it was proven in Germany where 700,000 of them walked to their death with out doing anything about it............ Saalam Aleikum

GOLD DUCK | 02-12-2006 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK QWAK,HUMmmmmmm a Rabbi Ciber HIT MAN ---- sort of -- "Have YAMICA will Travel" sort of guy? I guess it IS posable, I have meet some seariously KINKY ladies on the inter net SOooooooo I supose any thing is pasable. I wonder IF the Rabbi has a REALY cool theam song TOO?:clap2: ROTFL the DUCK
QWAK,Here you go Rabbi perhaps you can adapt it a little? http://www.trailcreeknaturetrails.co...inballad45.wav Always liked that song! :wavey: :beer: :cheerful: the DUCK

Ponce Cuba | 02-12-2006 02:05 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... By the way......how many Zionists do we have on this board? unless you want to hide and say nothing. You guys remember the movie "The Piano Player"?????? where the Germna Officer walked down the line shooting those monkey in the head and when he ran out of bullet he reloaded and shot the last one? Afte he shot the first one the rest of them should have done something about it but instead they just laid there and die like the dogs that they are.

Curtman | 02-12-2006 02:17 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Maybe but, is diversion a reality or vice versa? I sincerely doubt he is a fool, they simply just do not last that long. He who laughs first, laughs longer. :haha: He who laughs last, was slow to get the joke. :dontknow: </IMG></IMG>

GOLD DUCK | 02-12-2006 02:20 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... QWAK,Ponce "What make the Zionists brave is their weapons and not their soul as it was proven in Germany where 700,000 of them walked to their death with out doing anything about it............ " --- That FLAT out is NOT TRUE and a twisted CONVELUTED perception of RALITY! The Jews DID fight back in the GETTOS of Poland! They built weapons and even concocted EXPLOCIVES from nothing more thn Greese and Piss and house hold chemicals! Not shure ware your HATE is coming from but it is BLINDING YOU to the greater reality and exposing a side of your self that is very UGLY! Some soul searching on your part could be helpfull. Hate is a MIND POISEN that rots your thoughts and is a DARKNESS ware there should be LIGHT! Not telling you what to do, but YOU are sounding very over the top! the DUCK

Curtman | 02-12-2006 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba I admire more those who blow themselves up in order to kill a Zionist than a Zionist that behind the safety of a wall all they do is to press a button in order to send out a missile.....and that's why the Palestinians-Arabs (Muslims) will win at the end.
I cannot go along with this statement Ponce. This kind of talk is just counterprodutive. I am done with this thread. :character

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Atahualpa | 02-12-2006 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Curtman Maybe but, is diversion a reality or vice versa? I sincerely doubt he is a fool, they simply just do not last that long. He who laughs first, laughs longer. :haha: He who laughs last, was slow to get the joke. :dontknow: </IMG></IMG>
Don't believe there are any diversions on his self-aggrandizing, unfortunately. It is the Achilles heel of certain personalities.

Ponce Cuba | 02-12-2006 02:32 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... The only fight that I admired that the Jews were in was in the concentration camp where many of them were killed but many more scaped. Duck? sorry you feel that way buddy but where you see those people I can feel them and is like a dark cloud that covers my body.....they are the greatest danger that the world have ever encounter because of them many "Goys" have been killed and many more American will die. Where we had 1.5 billions friends in the Middle East we now have 1.5 enemies and all because of the Zionists of the state of Israel. History will judge me as been right, I only hope that I will live to see it.

Your Rabbi | 02-12-2006 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldStein thanks for the heads up. More of us on the way. You Goy are getting a little uppity eh? Shalom
ROTF LMAO! Some of these guys are completely meshuggener! Welcome to GIM. Mazel Tov! You know, I wanted my screen name to be 'Rabbi Gold-Silverstein' but GIM doesn't allow that many characters!

Your Rabbi | 02-12-2006 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK QWAK,Here you go Rabbi perhaps you can adapt it a little? http://www.trailcreeknaturetrails.co...inballad45.wav Always liked that song! :wavey: :beer: :cheerful: the DUCK
Nice, Duck. But this Rabbi needs something with a touch of funk. http://www.thehebrewhammer.com/media/hebrewhammer_theme.mp3<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>

lhslancers | 02-12-2006 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldStein thanks for the heads up. More of us on the way. You Goy are getting a little uppity eh? Shalom
Another phony interloper. The plural of goy is goyim. Really you guys are so transparent.:boxing:

Au_Ag | 02-12-2006 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba I admire more those who blow themselves up in order to kill a Zionist than a Zionist that behind the safety of a wall all they do is to press a button in order to send out a missile.....and that's why the Palestinians-Arabs (Muslims) will win at the end.
Ah, the _real_ Ponce has stood up. Quote:
Originally Posted by GOLD DUCK ...exposing a side of your self that is very UGLY!
Yep! Regards Ken L

Atahualpa | 02-12-2006 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba The Zionists wanabe Jewish monkeys already knows where I live at.....they are welcome to rock and roll with me anytime they like to. To be afraid in life of anyone is to be a prisoner for ever withing your body. I admire more those who blow themselves up in order to kill a Zionist than a Zionist that behind the safety of a wall all they do is to press a button in order to send out a missile.....and that's why the Palestinians-Arabs (Muslims) will win at the end. What make the Zionists brave is their weapons and not their soul as it was proven in Germany where 700,000 of them walked to their death with out doing anything about it............ Saalam Aleikum
What vitriol you have, my little immigrant ancestor of the Conquistadors! hahaha!! Atahualpa knows well about being a prisoner, and having his gold stolen. Be careful what information you give out and what enemies you create, there is no fever like gold fever and when the Conquistadors get gold-drunk, watch out...they will even settle for silver! hahaha!!

Au_Ag | 02-12-2006 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Atahualpa Be careful what information you give out and what enemies you create...
He has broadcast his life, intentions, possesions, identification and location to the world at large on the internet. And published photographs of them. Odd, for a survivalist mentality to be doing. Not to mention baiting. Regards Ken L

Ponce Cuba | 02-12-2006 11:26 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... I was asked to stay away from this one....I will stand in my corner and watch the fun.

GOLD DUCK | 02-12-2006 11:47 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by Your Rabbi Nice, Duck. But this Rabbi needs something with a touch of funk. http://www.thehebrewhammer.com/media/hebrewhammer_theme.mp3 <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Qwak,Rabbi, LOL It does have a more modern FLARE!:cheerful: The bit at the bottom that you posted was a bit of an adaptation from Arlo Gutherys "Alaces Resterunt" album and to a slight extent is my storey too!:wavey: Fact is in late 69 before I went in to the army a friend of mine who wanted to make movies since he was about 10 did a small home movie from a song on that album that I got to STAR IN! HONIST! HE HE HE the song was " I don't want a PICKLE,I just want to ride my MoterCicle!" Wish I could find a mp3 file to share but when I think about it he picked an interiting song for ME to act in his little movie becuse I did not have to act at all just ride my BIKE a fiew last times and have some fun before going OFF to be trained for WAR! I HAITED every SECOND of having MY LIFE controlled for three years, holding on to my SANITY was not easy, some times I had to do CRAZY things just to make SHURE I still had control, usualy for ME they were FUN because I was F**KING with THEIR HEADS wile I was gaing back some controle over mine. WAR is incredably UGLY and HATE is the ABSENCE of LOVE,it is a DARK COLD PLACE that exists INSIDE ones self and it destroies HAPPYNESS so that even when you GET wht you want, it DON'T make you feel HAPPY because THAT is what you GAVE UP to let HATE grow inside YOU!:censored: the DUCK

Jasper | 02-12-2006 02:34 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponce Cuba Remember that in Germany a loaf of bread went from 0.45 cents to 2 millons but at the same time one oz of gold went to 50 millions....you will be safe all the way on the golden road, or silver road like with Ponce :aetsch:
Ponce, that's only 25 loaves of bread for an oz of gold. I think gold must have done better than that. I like the story about the German bellhop who saved a small gold coin he received as a tip and used it later when hyperinflation came along to buy the hotel! :rolleyes:

Joejeweler | 02-12-2006 05:36 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... But you've got to admit they may ahead ahead of the old US,......in that they (the Mexican Government) are monitizing silver again,.....from what i recall reading about. Quote:
Originally Posted by lhslancers Mexico? No freaking way.

Julian | 02-13-2006 04:21 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by Joejeweler But you've got to admit they may ahead ahead of the old US,......in that they (the Mexican Government) are monitizing silver again,.....from what i recall reading about.
Nah, the banksters will never let that happen. Hugo Salinas Price is pushing for it, and apparently a large chunk of the population wants it, but the Mexican PTB don't, so it ain't gonna happen. I wish for their sake it would, though. Julian

Jacx | 02-16-2006 03:37 AM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullionaire Let us say gold fullfills its destiny and gets up to 1500-2000+. In what instrament will you cash out? Let us suggest you have LOTS of gold......Cash out in dollars? At that point you are probably getting terminally ill fiat. In some other foreign currency? Same probable likelyhood? Is there any countries currency going to be worth a flip? Will the gubberment allow you to convert currencies? Talk about a huge papertrail........you best be gone....... Will you have to wheelbarrow it across the Canadian border and peddle it? Get the Fiat and quickly buy a grass hut in Tahiti? Get the fiat and buy a vegas condo and screen test party girls? Buy an island? Wait, the $200.00 silver guys will have done that.... Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense?? Sorry Ponce, your compound does not excite me.... GLTA
In 1998 , with no knowledge in numismatic but trust in a reputable broker I aquired a number of $20 Liberty, MS 63 & 64's + some silver PR 65 & PR66. At this time 2006 , if I were to sell, my investment would bring me 10 % less then I paid for it. Also my Canadain dollar was 1.48 when I purchased . It is now 1.13 and dropping . Should I get out now or will the tides change?

Jacx | 02-18-2006 04:27 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Someone_else Registered User said: I don't know if I really expect the worst case scenario, so I will probably just plan on using my modest collection of coins to help out here and there :-) ************************ I am curious to know what we exchange our coin collections into , to help us out here and there when the U.S. dollar has no buying power .... I was persuaded into numismatic back in 1998, when the canadian dollar was 1.48 . That dollar is 1.13 now and my numismatic portfolio to-day will bring me 10 % less then I paid for it ( 8 years). So much for numusmatic. What does one do ..... hang on - let go .... or a little of both ? <s>

Ponce Cuba | 02-18-2006 04:46 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Jacx you are welcome to help me antime you feel like it.....by the way, welcome to GIM.

Halophyte | 02-18-2006 07:03 PM
Re: Serious question for all...... Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullionaire Let us say gold fullfills its destiny and gets up to 1500-2000+. In what instrament will you cash out? Let us suggest you have LOTS of gold......Cash out in dollars? At that point you are probably getting terminally ill fiat. In some other foreign currency? Same probable likelyhood? Is there any countries currency going to be worth a flip? Will the gubberment allow you to convert currencies? Talk about a huge papertrail........you best be gone....... Will you have to wheelbarrow it across the Canadian border and peddle it? Get the Fiat and quickly buy a grass hut in Tahiti? Get the fiat and buy a vegas condo and screen test party girls? Buy an island? Wait, the $200.00 silver guys will have done that.... Has anybody formulated a serious exit plan that makes sense?? Sorry Ponce, your compound does not excite me.... GLTA
The question you ask is moot in the light of the IMF/BIS New Word Order fiat currency called SDR's. As you might know, the BIS require an 8% reserve status of national fiat currencies to remain exchangeable to SDRs. There's a cap placed on the debt backed by debt Federal Reserve system, hence, ushering in the era of continually rising prime interest rates. This is the Feds only way to slow down the dilution rate of dollar value and maintain its exchangeability to SDRs. Without exchanging FRNs to SDRs, our export trade completely breaks down. Many believe (as I once did) that the fed has no choice but to inflate, but the decisions to raise rates have the opposite effects on liquidity needed to flush capital into our economic engine. This is by design. Default of international debt is by design - just as the default of debt in 1929 was by design to consolidate the Federal Reserve's power, the coming national default is to consolidate the New World currency of SDRs. .

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