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Silver Gorilla | 09-08-2007 10:37 PM
King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K 2 Attachment(s) Im thinking of Investing more in Gold coins, only gold coins that are rare or Difficult to find. Coinage of Great Britain. King George V, 1911 (39.99 g). 22K 5 pound gold coin Any one know the value of this coin. (in 2007)

Baldwin | 09-08-2007 11:16 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Well, using the regular sovereign 1 pound gold coin as a guide, yours has 1.177 ounces of gold. As to whether or not it has any numismatic value, I cannot say.

Coltwind | 09-08-2007 11:16 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K I have seen a bunch of these in Dubai. I wouldn't call them rare collector grade. I pass when I see coins there. Just too suspecious. And the prices are not that great.

Jack London | 09-08-2007 11:21 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K http://www.usagold.com/gold/coins/britkings.html That is a George V Sovereign. .2354 troy ounce gold. You can buy these at bullion prices from Apmex, Golddealer, etc. They have no face value. They did, at one time, circulate as money. Your's looks very shiny, but I don't spend much time studying numismatics, so I don't know if there is a special value in this coin. When I bought Sovereigns last, I got a couple of uncirculated George V in the bunch. The link I provided shows pictures of all the "sovereigns" that were put on the obverse. The reverse is St. George slaying the dragon.

Silver Gorilla | 09-08-2007 11:29 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by Coltwind (Post 729110) I have seen a bunch of these in Dubai. I wouldn't call them rare collector grade. I pass when I see coins there. Just too suspecious. And the prices are not that great.
Suspicious ? are they fake or something ?

Silver Gorilla | 09-08-2007 11:34 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack London (Post 729118) http://www.usagold.com/gold/coins/britkings.html That is a George V Sovereign. .2354 troy ounce gold. You can buy these at bullion prices from Apmex, Golddealer, etc. They have no face value. They did, at one time, circulate as money. Your's looks very shiny, but I don't spend much time studying numismatics, so I don't know if there is a special value in this coin. When I bought Sovereigns last, I got a couple of uncirculated George V in the bunch. The link I provided shows pictures of all the "sovereigns" that were put on the obverse. The reverse is St. George slaying the dragon.
Wow look at what it says about him, King George V was distinguished 'by no exercise of social gifts, by no personal magnetism, by no intellectual powers. He was neither a wit nor a brilliant raconteur, neither well-read nor well-educated, and he made no great contribution to enlightened social converse. He lacked intellectual curiosity and only late in life acquired some measure of artistic taste.' He was, in other words, exactly like most of his subjects. He discovered a new job for modern kings and queens to do -- representation." And still there is nothing about the 1911 5 pound gold coin nor its mint numbers ?

Silver Gorilla | 09-08-2007 11:41 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldwin (Post 729109) Well, using the regular sovereign 1 pound gold coin as a guide, yours has 1.177 ounces of gold. As to whether or not it has any numismatic value, I cannot say.
The only thing i could find on the 1911 5 pound George V gold coin is the Auction on May 27th, 2007 I guess i can call this one a proof coin:D I think ? http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvie...D=293&Lot=4597

Jack London | 09-09-2007 12:02 AM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K A follow up. After re-reading the original post, I noticed it said the coin weighed 39.9 grams. If that is the case, then it is way over one troy ounce. (31.103 gms.) If that is accurate, then this is something other than the traditional sovereign. What I don't understand is why it says nothing on the coin about its heavier weight.

Silver Gorilla | 09-09-2007 12:06 AM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack London (Post 729168) A follow up. After re-reading the original post, I noticed it said the coin weighed 39.9 grams. If that is the case, then it is way over one troy ounce. (31.103 gms.) If that is accurate, then this is something other than the traditional sovereign. What I don't understand is why it says nothing on the coin about its heavier weight.
Now thats what i want to find out ? allso nothing on ebay on 1911 5 pound gold coins

qatarman1969 | 09-09-2007 11:40 AM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K I live in the Middle East & that one looks suspiciously like one of the Dubai-made "copies" that are in every jewelry store over here. Notice the lack of distinction on the reverse....? That's because it is CAST & polished, not stamped from a blank like a genuine coin. I say "copy" because these Dubai copies ARE genuine gold, but they are NOT genuine sovereigns. Pay a tad over spot gold value for it...nothing more. It will have no numismatic value. mark

TomD | 09-09-2007 12:09 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K 1 Attachment(s) On Panda America, they have a number of year's of 5 pound proof coins. Apparently they weigh 5 sovereigns. Article from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_pounds_(British_pre-decimal_coin) Picture from Panda America.

Silver Gorilla | 09-09-2007 01:06 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by qatarman1969 (Post 729513) I live in the Middle East & that one looks suspiciously like one of the Dubai-made "copies" that are in every jewelry store over here. Notice the lack of distinction on the reverse....? That's because it is CAST & polished, not stamped from a blank like a genuine coin. I say "copy" because these Dubai copies ARE genuine gold, but they are NOT genuine sovereigns. Pay a tad over spot gold value for it...nothing more. It will have no numismatic value. mark
Weighing the coin would be the right way to know if a coin is a genuine or not, And thats what i did to this one, It hit right on 39.9 g. I bought this coin And that was a long time back in London 2002 at an Auction i cant remember where the Auction was in london but i still remember it was something like 800to 990 pounds for it.

HistoryStudent | 09-09-2007 01:31 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K I collect a lot of coins and that first post LOOKS REAL (super) good to be be true. TOO GOOD to be true in fact. I'd pass at melt or half, a quarter, a tenth - or 1/100 or even 1/1000 th. Never seen a coin look that good unless they just covered it in gold and polished it. A silver ounce plus at gold's price? :no_ma::no_ma::no_ma::no_ma:

Silver Gorilla | 09-09-2007 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 729584) I collect a lot of coins and that first post LOOKS REAL (super) good to be be true. TOO GOOD to be true in fact. I'd pass at melt or half, a quarter, a tenth - or 1/100 or even 1/1000 th. Never seen a coin look that good unless they just covered it in gold and polished it. A silver ounce plus at gold's price? :no_ma::no_ma::no_ma::no_ma:
:coolbeer: HistoryStudent:ARMS1::emotions16::beer: It is super REAL.

Silver Gorilla | 09-10-2007 03:33 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 729520) On Panda America, they have a number of year's of 5 pound proof coins. Apparently they weigh 5 sovereigns. Article from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_pounds_(British_pre-decimal_coin) Picture from Panda America.
TomD are you thinking of buying any British Gold coin's. That Picture from panda America looks beautiful.

TomD | 09-10-2007 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Gorilla (Post 730979) TomD are you thinking of buying any British Gold coin's. That Picture from panda America looks beautiful.
I've already got 2 (hopefully) gold Britannias and around 19 or 20 sovereigns. Except the occasional deal, I'm standing pat on PM's right now.

Jekyll7 | 09-10-2007 04:26 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by qatarman1969 (Post 729513) I live in the Middle East & that one looks suspiciously like one of the Dubai-made "copies" that are in every jewelry store over here. Notice the lack of distinction on the reverse....? That's because it is CAST & polished, not stamped from a blank like a genuine coin. I say "copy" because these Dubai copies ARE genuine gold, but they are NOT genuine sovereigns. Pay a tad over spot gold value for it...nothing more. It will have no numismatic value. mark
That would be my guess as well. Gold is a great material for collector coins because it is soft and when it's stamped it produces fantastic detail. The coin pictured at the top has very, very poor detail and exceptional shine, which should be a tip off right away that something is not right. Look very carefully at the date on the proof coin and the coin in this thread. The two main inconsistencies are: 1) Inconsistent date strike on the shiny coin, looks as though the "911" was added to an existing "1" because it's skewed off on an angle. 2) The formation of the "1"s, particularly the one after the "9". It looks like the top of the one is an "I" because of poor cutoff at the top right of the numeral.

twenty4karat | 09-10-2007 04:55 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Gorilla (Post 729074) Im thinking of Investing more in Gold coins, only gold coins that are rare or Difficult to find. Coinage of Great Britain. King George V, 1911 (39.99 g). 22K 5 pound gold coin Any one know the value of this coin. (in 2007)
SG (or should I say GG), Hey bud, I'm happy to see you gettin' into more gold. I have some Sovereigns, but they are of the .2354 variety. (That's .2354 gm gold/ 7.9873 gm total / diameter is 22.05 mm / 1.52 mm thick / .916 purity). I don't know anything about the 5 pounders, but you should be able to use these numbers (at least the weight) at a factor of 5. Hope this info helps. Keep in touch pal. Maranatha, :smile:

aussiesilver | 09-10-2007 06:59 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K I would be 99 percent sure that this coin is not an original Gold Sovereign,the English and Australian Sovereigns that were minted here and in England around this time did not have the '1' as minted in the dates,the date should look like this 1911 not I9II,they were not minted this way,the rim does not have the depth and the Sharp uncirculated Obverse or Head of the old king is in unc condition whereas the Reverse or St George is fuzzy and the rim denticles seem to be allover the place,having been playing around with these types of sovs for 30 years and this does not loook ridgy didge

Silver Gorilla | 09-10-2007 09:06 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K 9 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiesilver (Post 731261) I would be 99 percent sure that this coin is not an original Gold Sovereign,the English and Australian Sovereigns that were minted here and in England around this time did not have the '1' as minted in the dates,the date should look like this 1911 not I9II,they were not minted this way,the rim does not have the depth and the Sharp uncirculated Obverse or Head of the old king is in unc condition whereas the Reverse or St George is fuzzy and the rim denticles seem to be allover the place,having been playing around with these types of sovs for 30 years and this does not loook ridgy didge
Im sorry maybe its my camera that's making you see things,:sarcasm: here, let me try posting the coin again In Close-ups - Closeups , i was shocked to read what you posted. :wink: Reverse or St George is fuzzy becous I always throw the coin on the metal scale only on its Reverse side I had respect for his face, i stoped long time ago throwing it on and off the metal scale, now i have a high powered digital scale, that has protective thin rubber cover just for coins, it was my fault for not taking good care of this coin. I just cant see the (I) 9 (II) THAT YOUR TALKING about sorry It looks very very like A (1)9(11)

Silver Gorilla | 09-10-2007 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TomD (Post 730993) I've already got 2 (hopefully) gold Britannias and around 19 or 20 sovereigns. Except the occasional deal, I'm standing pat on PM's right now.
TomD I would like you to send me some online info like what website you trust the most, buying Gold. :smokin:

Silver Gorilla | 09-10-2007 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by twenty4karat (Post 731106) SG (or should I say GG), Hey bud, I'm happy to see you gettin' into more gold. I have some Sovereigns, but they are of the .2354 variety. (That's .2354 gm gold/ 7.9873 gm total / diameter is 22.05 mm / 1.52 mm thick / .916 purity). I don't know anything about the 5 pounders, but you should be able to use these numbers (at least the weight) at a factor of 5. Hope this info helps. Keep in touch pal. Maranatha, :smile:
Yup yup im into gold now, thats becous you talked me into it and my father and TomD, well im realy realy thinking of buying a heavy amount of gold like maybe just before the opening bell of the Markets, And some gold coins online.:D:D:bull-buddy-icon:

aussiesilver | 09-11-2007 08:09 AM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Thanks for the better pics Gorilla,now dont go and rip my head off,looks like the date in your close up pics seem original,they just dont look the same in your original smaller pics at the top of the posting. Now it seems that these 5 pound UK sovs of 1911 should be about 40mm in width or about 1 inch and 3/4 and weigh in at over an ounce,it is interesting to note that the two pound and five pound sovereign of 1911 were struck only in 1911 as coronation commemoratives and had a mintage of some 2800,they were struck as proofs not for circulation but it looks as though your piece,if original would be a proof,the obverse looks that good to be almost fake,but it may be that good because its a proof,now according to the close up picture of the reverse the chest armour on St George looks as though its worn,it may be your picture,but it would also suggest that its been well handled around the traps,i think that it deserves a little more research on your behalf because if its real its value could be as high as 800-1000 english pounds,and with the current exchange rate with you yanks thats about 1 million usdollars:sarcasm:i will drop you a pm later and point you in the right direction,please feel free to sell me some of your good silver and ship it downhere,regards aussiesilver

HistoryStudent | 09-11-2007 09:12 AM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K The Sovereign is the most counterfeited coin in the world - per the gold books I have on the subject. :applause_:applause_ That's why I bought the FISCH Set to double check mine. :wink: Be careful or BE BURNED! :wink: If it sounds too good to be true - then it's probably NOT true.

Silver Gorilla | 09-11-2007 01:06 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiesilver (Post 731969) Thanks for the better pics Gorilla,now dont go and rip my head off,looks like the date in your close up pics seem original,they just dont look the same in your original smaller pics at the top of the posting. Now it seems that these 5 pound UK sovs of 1911 should be about 40mm in width or about 1 inch and 3/4 and weigh in at over an ounce,it is interesting to note that the two pound and five pound sovereign of 1911 were struck only in 1911 as coronation commemoratives and had a mintage of some 2800,they were struck as proofs not for circulation but it looks as though your piece,if original would be a proof,the obverse looks that good to be almost fake,but it may be that good because its a proof,now according to the close up picture of the reverse the chest armour on St George looks as though its worn,it may be your picture,but it would also suggest that its been well handled around the traps,i think that it deserves a little more research on your behalf because if its real its value could be as high as 800-1000 english pounds,and with the current exchange rate with you yanks thats about 1 million usdollars:sarcasm:i will drop you a pm later and point you in the right direction,please feel free to sell me some of your good silver and ship it downhere,regards aussiesilver
aussiesilver :D Don't worry im not going to rip know ones head off, Like i said it was my fault for not taking good care of this coin.:wink:I will double check this coin, Just to be on the safeside

qatarman1969 | 09-12-2007 12:31 PM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Good pics! Thanks! The reverse is quite indistinct, no detail on the dragon's wings, or the rider's chest...common in the 22kt copies. I see these copies in 1 pound sovereigns down in the souqs all the time & this one looks just like 'em. The edge reeding does look good...far better than I usually see in the copies, but not unheard of. I came across one once that looked absolutely perfect...until it failed the Fisch test. :thumpdown If the weight & dimensions check out, then it's definitely genuine gold, but I wouldn't pay a numismatic premium for it. mark

Silver Gorilla | 09-13-2007 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by qatarman1969 (Post 733769) Good pics! Thanks! The reverse is quite indistinct, no detail on the dragon's wings, or the rider's chest...common in the 22kt copies. I see these copies in 1 pound sovereigns down in the souqs all the time & this one looks just like 'em. The edge reeding does look good...far better than I usually see in the copies, but not unheard of. I came across one once that looked absolutely perfect...until it failed the Fisch test. :thumpdown If the weight & dimensions check out, then it's definitely genuine gold, but I wouldn't pay a numismatic premium for it. mark
Hay..... you have the Fisch coin tester too. There so so sooo good :D I have all 5 Fisch wallets coin testers, and thats why i have this Gold King George V, 1911. :wink::D Never buy Coins from any souqs :wink: Beside i don't think any london auction would would want to sell fake or copies of 1 pound sovereigns,funny that people would buy any gold or silver coins from souqas shops, and then believe that its real, :haha: this is a five pounder from a "LONDON AUCTION NOT SOUQS" :bath: Cheek this out buddy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1911-PROOF-Geo...ayphotohosting

twenty4karat | 09-13-2007 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Gorilla (Post 734845) Hay..... you have the Fisch coin tester too. There so so sooo good :D I have all 5 Fisch wallets coin testers, and thats why i have this Gold King George V, 1911. :wink::D Never buy Coins from any souqs :wink: Beside i don't think any london auction would would want to sell fake or copies of 1 pound sovereigns,funny that people would buy any gold or silver coins from souqas shops, and then believe that its real, :haha: this is a five pounder from a "LONDON AUCTION NOT SOUQS" :bath: Cheek this out buddy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1911-PROOF-Geo...ayphotohosting
SG (GG), Well done friend! Maranatha, :smile:

aussiesilver | 09-13-2007 08:12 AM
Re: King George V, 1911 British gold coin 22K Hey Gorilla,is there a finders fee :s9:for that uk ebay auction

Silver Gorilla | 09-13-2007 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aussiesilver (Post 735173) Hey Gorilla,is there a finders fee :s9:for that uk ebay auction
Finders fee :haha: ya i think so :wink:............ :haha: aussiesilver �I won�t forget you� Buddy thanks for helping out :wink: I'm thinking on bidding on that gold George V, 1911 coin that you posted from ebay, but i don't feel that it is real, the seller has no proof of authentication on the coin.:smokin:

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Silver Gorilla | 09-13-2007 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by twenty4karat (Post 734996) SG (GG), Well done friend! Maranatha, :smile:
:D thank you, I Locked in my order today at $704 buying 1 oz gold bars :D.

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