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johngr | 02-23-2008 02:13 PM
Can anyone tell if this is real http://www.tradera.com/USA_50_Cent_1...ktion-58438592 He's selling it as a real one but aren't the Chinese cranking these out by the 100s?

WAoG | 02-23-2008 03:21 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real It looks real. Its not a valuble coin and I can't see why the Chinese would be cranking out an old beat up silver half dollar? They could make a very nice 1836 silver half dollar and try to get (or get)thousands for it. I would guess its real?

British Sovereign | 02-23-2008 03:54 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real DONT BUY COINS ONLINE! That coin is one that the Chinese fakes have produced. Numismatic coins need to be bought and examined by experts. The exact weight of the coin is difficult to duplicate in fakes. Don't buy rare coins online. They're even duplicating the coin holders now. Search PCGS's website for a look at the manufacturing of fake coins out of China. It's scary.

WAoG | 02-23-2008 05:32 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by British Sovereign (Post 980187) DONT BUY COINS ONLINE! That coin is one that the Chinese fakes have produced. Numismatic coins need to be bought and examined by experts. The exact weight of the coin is difficult to duplicate in fakes. Don't buy rare coins online. They're even duplicating the coin holders now. Search PCGS's website for a look at the manufacturing of fake coins out of China. It's scary.
To me that coin is junk silver (if real) it sure is not a rare numismatic.

Twisted Avatar | 02-23-2008 05:55 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by johngr (Post 980105) http://www.tradera.com/USA_50_Cent_1...ktion-58438592 He's selling it as a real one but aren't the Chinese cranking these out by the 100s?
The fact that you have to ask this question is a warning flag that you should stay away. Peace of mind is paramount T

Silver Gorilla | 02-23-2008 06:02 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by johngr (Post 980105) http://www.tradera.com/USA_50_Cent_1...ktion-58438592 He's selling it as a real one but aren't the Chinese cranking these out by the 100s?
Hi there johngr, I have seen so many of these 1826 cents and all where fakes, Ill stay away from this one just to be on the safe side, If you want to buy coins, I strongly encourage you to find a trustworthy coin dealer near you.:wink:

WAoG | 02-23-2008 06:15 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Gorilla (Post 980337) Hi there johngr, I have seen so many of these 1826 cents and all where fakes, Ill stay away from this one just to be on the safe side, If you want to buy coins, I strongly encourage you to find a trustworthy coin dealer near you.:wink:
Where are you seeing all these fakes. I'm in coin shops all the time and no person has even handed me one fake. I know they are out there.

Silver Gorilla | 02-23-2008 06:29 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by WAoG (Post 980349) Where are you seeing all these fakes. I'm in coin shops all the time and no person has even handed me one fake. I know they are out there.
WAoG its because your doing the right thing and that is your going to coin shops instead of online buying or other places. Trust me i have seen many of these coins online and in shops around, That's why i only trust a coin dealer that's trusted by all and only sells coins to you graded and slabbed.:wink:

Highbanker | 02-23-2008 07:40 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Sail on...Sail on, oh ship of fools.....

British Sovereign | 02-23-2008 11:29 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Fake coins are big business in China. Look at this Chinese faketory making rare coins. http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/239...erview#8696654

British Sovereign | 02-23-2008 11:34 PM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real 1826 50 cent piece. Made in China. http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/279153/overview

gopher29 | 02-24-2008 02:50 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by WAoG (Post 980308) To me that coin is junk silver (if real) it sure is not a rare numismatic.
Junk silver? An 1826 Bust Half Dollar? Yeah, right. If you're interested in selling Bust Halves for spot or even spot plus $20 let me know. I'll want to grab some and I'm sure others will be interested too.

johngr | 02-24-2008 03:16 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by British Sovereign (Post 980610) Fake coins are big business in China. Look at this Chinese faketory making rare coins. http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/239...erview#8696654
Now they're even making common Morgans.

johngr | 02-24-2008 03:29 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
DONT BUY COINS ONLINE! That coin is one that the Chinese fakes have produced. Numismatic coins need to be bought and examined by experts. The exact weight of the coin is difficult to duplicate in fakes. Don't buy rare coins online. They're even duplicating the coin holders now. Search PCGS's website for a look at the manufacturing of fake coins out of China. It's scary.
I've bought about 100 coins from online auctions and haven't yet received a fake. Of course, I could have paid 2 to 3 times as much from a dealer...

CyberGold | 02-24-2008 07:39 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real I've looked at the coin operation on bubbleshare and it is scary. Common dated coins receive less attention than rare dates so they can sell many of them rather than chance one sale with hi risk of getting caught. What I notice in a lot of the fakes shown is that the devices are made to show a worn coiin, thus supportiing its authenticity by "circulation" but the fields appear almost perfect without having a lot of bag marks or scraches that would go along with the wear. A guy from work just got back from 2 weeks in Germany. While there he went to a local market and bought 4 coins from a street vendor, against the advice of my buddy who I had warned about these things. He was so proud of the valuable old US coins he found and repatriated, until I looked at them. They were obviously inderweight and failed the ring test, among other things but they looked convinciing and felt about right to someone who doesn't know. For about $25 each, he is the proud owner of: Worn 1903 American Silver Eagle (wonder if they made any proof) 1872 Trade Dollar (didn't start making them until 1873) 1896 Morgan in XF (what would that be worth if real) 1922 Peace (this one is scary it was pretty convincing and could have been real but considering the company it was with)... If you don't know what your buying don't buy it

Twisted Avatar | 02-24-2008 08:21 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberGold (Post 980760) I've looked at the coin operation on bubbleshare and it is scary. Common dated coins receive less attention than rare dates so they can sell many of them rather than chance one sale with hi risk of getting caught. What I notice in a lot of the fakes shown is that the devices are made to show a worn coiin, thus supportiing its authenticity by "circulation" but the fields appear almost perfect without having a lot of bag marks or scraches that would go along with the wear. A guy from work just got back from 2 weeks in Germany. While there he went to a local market and bought 4 coins from a street vendor, against the advice of my buddy who I had warned about these things. He was so proud of the valuable old US coins he found and repatriated, until I looked at them. They were obviously inderweight and failed the ring test, among other things but they looked convinciing and felt about right to someone who doesn't know. For about $25 each, he is the proud owner of: Worn 1903 American Silver Eagle (wonder if they made any proof) 1872 Trade Dollar (didn't start making them until 1873) 1896 Morgan in XF (what would that be worth if real) 1922 Peace (this one is scary it was pretty convincing and could have been real but considering the company it was with)... If you don't know what your buying don't buy it
Wow I was PRAYING that nobody said peace as that is my favorite coin....if you have a pix of the fake that would great to see. I will only buy for dealer that have a strong relationship with...... This is was expected but it is a major blow to confidence T

BoggleFed | 02-24-2008 08:36 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real It cracks me up that the customs guys can manage to confiscate an airsoft pistol with a trademarked logo, but can't stop thousands of fake U.S. coins from coming in. Keep up the good work boys!

Waylon | 03-20-2008 01:12 AM
Re: Can anyone tell if this is real Buy rare date Morgans here for $29.99 ... more fakes. http://www.hlaimages2.com/prod_images/500/96748.jpg http://www.heartlandamerica.com/brow...&BC=S&DL=SEH1#

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