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tekhen | 02-22-2010 07:22 AM
what, if anything... would you purchase from the Mint's 2010 Produce Catalog? US Mint catalog IMO the options are few and far between. When they discontinued products in 08/09 it was said that there were too many options... so we go from to many to too few?

TomD | 02-22-2010 07:54 AM
Re: what, if anything... I bought their 50 state quarters silver sets for the past 11 years but that's over. I've got a few presidents sets bought as a part of the quarters set but I don't see myself continuing that.

Stealinator | 02-22-2010 08:11 AM
Re: what, if anything... If I recall, I almost bought some of the fractional gold buffs a while back. REALLY wish I did. Have never seen them for sale since. Sure if I looked I could find, and would have to pay a price accordingly with their rarity. The gold buff is one of my favorites and would love to have stacks of 1/2 and 1/4 ounce coins. http://www.usrarecoininvestments.com...ld_buffalo.htm edit: oh yeah, another one was the high relief double gold eagle.

tekhen | 02-22-2010 08:46 AM
Re: what, if anything... buffs in any weight/type are my first priority... followed by the Proof/Unc ASE(if ever minted again???) the mint dropped the ball on this one! then the Silver Proof set and finally the Pt Eagle... not for the next 4-year design but for the metal, being that it is the only Pt coin produced by the US mint. When minted, I was looking forward to having a buff set each year... then they pulled the rug from under my feet :favorites21:

hydro | 02-22-2010 09:04 AM
Re: what, if anything... I am holding out to see what the 5 ounce silver "America the Beautiful" quarter will look like along with the cost. Although, from what I have read so far, it is to be offered as a bullion coin. That means it won't be offered directly from the U.S. Mint, but rather from an authorized dealer just like the current SAE. EDIT: I am planning on picking up a few of the Boy Scout coins so that I can flip them on ebay. I am guessing that they will sell out within 3 months and will fetch a premium close to what the Lincoln dollars got last year after they sold out.

tekhen | 02-22-2010 09:10 AM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by hydro (Post 2192944) I am holding out to see what the 5 ounce silver "America the Beautiful" quarter will look like along with the cost. Although, from what I have read so far, it is to be offered as a bullion coin. That means it won't be offered directly from the U.S. Mint, but rather from an authorized dealer just like the current SAE.
If the hockey pucks are minted and 2010 proof ASEs are not... I'd go :10_1_19: in trying to figure the mint's thought process

hydro | 02-22-2010 09:16 AM
Re: what, if anything... 1 Attachment(s) Quote:
Originally Posted by tekhen (Post 2192951) If the hockey pucks are minted and 2010 proof ASEs are not... I'd go :10_1_19: in trying to figure the mint's thought process
You will go insane if you try. That's because you do have a thought process and they don't:

gunDriller | 02-22-2010 01:24 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by tekhen (Post 2192923) buffs in any weight/type are my first priority...
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Originally Posted by Stealinator (Post 2192885) If I recall, I almost bought some of the fractional gold buffs a while back. REALLY wish I did.
do people like the Buff's because they're .999 gold ? i like the look of the Gold Maples because of their color - .999 gold. just wondering if that was part of the appeal of the Gold Buffaloes.

HistoryStudent | 02-22-2010 01:34 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by gunDriller (Post 2193331) do people like the Buff's because they're .999 gold ? i like the look of the Gold Maples because of their color - .999 gold. just wondering if that was part of the appeal of the Gold Buffaloes.
Probably just different. Most get bored with the same-o same-o unless into NUMISMATICS. The BUFFS have that soft appeal too. But they are too soft for ME! I have a few of them though in proof in plastic...

tekhen | 02-22-2010 01:40 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by gunDriller (Post 2193331) do people like the Buff's because they're .999 gold ? i like the look of the Gold Maples because of their color - .999 gold. just wondering if that was part of the appeal of the Gold Buffaloes.
personally... 1) I think the buffs look better than most modern issued gov't Au coins (aside from the UHR) 2) 24k is the preferred purity outside of the states 3) at present, they hold their premium better than any other Au bullion coin 4) the way the mints operates... they have become difficult to come by

TomD | 02-22-2010 02:50 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by tekhen (Post 2193361) personally... 2) 24k is the preferred purity outside of the states
Isn't the Krugerrand the most world wide popular and recognized gold coin? No accounting for taste but I really don't like UC Buffaloes, the proofs are better.

hernancortes | 02-22-2010 02:57 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by gunDriller (Post 2193331) do people like the Buff's because they're .999 gold ? i like the look of the Gold Maples because of their color - .999 gold. just wondering if that was part of the appeal of the Gold Buffaloes.
The main appeal seems to be the Indian/ Buffalo design. Its not my favorite but there are lot of buffalo nickel collectors and the 20001 silver dollar commems are quite popular.

gunDriller | 02-22-2010 03:12 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by hernancortes (Post 2193490) The main appeal seems to be the Indian/ Buffalo design. Its not my favorite but there are lot of buffalo nickel collectors and the 20001 silver dollar commems are quite popular.
i like the design too. i've actually never seen a gold Buffalo in the flesh. i notice that sometimes the margins on them are reasonable ($35), but most of the time, it's a bigger spread ($100 or so).

oldmansmith | 02-22-2010 05:45 PM
Re: what, if anything... "September First Spouse Series One-Half Ounce Gold Coin - Buchanan's Liberty" I'll be getting at least one.

TomD | 02-22-2010 06:06 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by gunDriller (Post 2193533) i like the design too. i've actually never seen a gold Buffalo in the flesh. i notice that sometimes the margins on them are reasonable ($35), but most of the time, it's a bigger spread ($100 or so).
Maybe this will help, I had to take a lot of pictures to make it look even this good. Better than the 2010 Britannia, I'll give it that but that is the essence of damnation with faint praise. The proof is much better but I've never had one of those. Come to think about it, the reason I don't like this coin is epitified by a comment someone made about about the 2010 Britannia, "It looks like it was carved with a screwdriver in wet clay". Same look. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/...0cb2735a_b.jpg

HistoryStudent | 02-22-2010 07:04 PM
Re: what, if anything... 1 Attachment(s) Attachment 87698 I do like the PROOFS too. :Surrender:

HistoryStudent | 02-22-2010 07:07 PM
Re: what, if anything... 1 Attachment(s) Attachment 87699 Aren't they cute? :Surrender:

HistoryStudent | 02-22-2010 07:16 PM
Re: what, if anything... 2 Attachment(s) Attachment 87702 Attachment 87703 But do they really beat the MOST BEAUTIFUL COIN in the whole world? Just kidding... of course... maybe?

HistoryStudent | 02-22-2010 07:20 PM
Re: what, if anything... 1 Attachment(s) Attachment 87704 Of course The Yellow Rose of Texas has a special place in my heart - remember the ALAMO! All ONE POUND of HER! :23_30_104:

JayDubya | 02-22-2010 08:56 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 2193479) Isn't the Krugerrand the most world wide popular and recognized gold coin?
I thought sovereigns held that distinction. Anyone care to clarify?

JayDubya | 02-22-2010 09:00 PM
Re: what, if anything... [QUOTE=HistoryStudent;2193910]Attachment 87704 The Yellow Rose of Texas has a special place in my heart - History Student, I really like that Texas commemorative. I'm nowhere the collector you are and Im sure yours blows mine out of the water, but it was one of my first "have to have" coins - mine is a 1936s in MS66.

Irons | 02-22-2010 09:40 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by JayDubya (Post 2194094) I thought sovereigns held that distinction. Anyone care to clarify?
Krugerrands have the weight and purity stamped on them, you don't have to guess what you are getting. They are the #1 gold bullion coin in the world, I don't know if a sovereign falls into the same catagory. Sovereigns are nice looking coins though, I'll get one one of these days. It's probably a good thing so many Krugerrands are circulating as it looks like SA's golden mile is getting pretty tapped out, mines are in serious decline.

tekhen | 02-22-2010 10:08 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 2193479) Isn't the Krugerrand the most world wide popular and recognized gold coin? No accounting for taste but I really don't like UC Buffaloes, the proofs are better.
If anything, it is one of the oldest as far as modern minting. You will find plenty of Krands abound and yes they are still very popular. It still is the 'best bang for the FRN' coin out there. This is the reason why most investors stick with it. w.t.b.s. - my research has shown that .999/.9999/.99999 bullion coins are now the preferred bullion to have. From a psychological point, people like purity and a coin that has the potential to maintain it's premium over spot. Au @ a purity of no less than 22k = 91.7% is what one should own, and like many on Gim say Au is Au. I personally play the psychological aspect and am happy that I have. My exchange rate (FRN to Au) is better with Buffs than other Au bullion (being coin or bar)

Irons | 02-22-2010 10:36 PM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by tekhen (Post 2194216) If anything, it is one of the oldest as far as modern minting. You will find plenty of Krands abound and yes they are still very popular. It still is the 'best bang for the FRN' coin out there. This is the reason why most investors stick with it. w.t.b.s. - my research has shown that .999/.9999/.99999 bullion coins are now the preferred bullion to have. From a psychological point, people like purity and a coin that has the potential to maintain it's premium over spot. Au @ a purity of no less than 22k = 91.7% is what one should own, and like many on Gim say Au is Au. I personally play the psychological aspect and am happy that I have. My exchange rate (FRN to Au) is better with Buffs than other Au bullion (being coin or bar)
I think that is a myth, as many times as I have tried, I can't get any premium to register on a scale. Just look at what's happening now, people were paying a huge premium to get GAE's, and now the GAE can be had for the same price as the lowly Krugerrand. Premium evaporated. As we have seen recently, things change. If you are a collector expecting to sell to another collector, thats different!:ok:

HistoryStudent | 02-23-2010 12:15 AM
Re: what, if anything... [quote=JayDubya;2194103] Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 2193910) Attachment 87704 The Yellow Rose of Texas has a special place in my heart - History Student, I really like that Texas commemorative. I'm nowhere the collector you are and Im sure yours blows mine out of the water, but it was one of my first "have to have" coins - mine is a 1936s in MS66.
You my friend have ONE of the BEST commemorative coins out there - bar none. It is one of the MOST desireable ones too of all pre- 1982 coins. My TEXAS baby is a ONE POUND silver redo made and dated in 1986 - 150 years later - 50 more than yours. I bow to a superior collector in this race! (and take my hat off too) :23_28_100s: HS

tekhen | 02-23-2010 01:27 AM
Re: what, if anything... Quote:
Originally Posted by Irons (Post 2194259) I think that is a myth, as many times as I have tried, I can't get any premium to register on a scale. Just look at what's happening now, people were paying a huge premium to get GAE's, and now the GAE can be had for the same price as the lowly Krugerrand. Premium evaporated. As we have seen recently, things change. If you are a collector expecting to sell to another collector, thats different!:ok:
You've proven my point... GAE = 22k, where premiums have not held. While the buffs on the other hand... Whenever I trade FRNs for PMs I always look at the buy back rate. As of now, the buy back rate for 24k bullion (Buffs/Maples/Phils) maintain their premium. If you travel outside of the US...(middle east, china, india) 24k is the way to go. I agree with you in that people do change which is why I said "I personally play the psychological aspect". The premium can head south at any time but as it stands, 24k is holding it's premium and presently is not a myth. an experiment... call your local coin dealer and see how much they will give you for a 2007 Buff vs AGE. I also agree with the collector aspect. another reason why I choose gov't issued legal tender bullion coins over rounds or bars. I'm playing both the numismatic and bullion game.

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