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Benji888 | 02-10-2008 09:34 PM
Authentic Panda? Just bought 2 of these.. hopefully the coins are authentic!http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-ONE-OUNCE-C...QQcmdZViewItem

sneak | 02-10-2008 10:11 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Congrats! They look real to me. I just bought 7 1/2 ozs. of Silver Pandas this week. They are previous years and are my first Silver Pandas.

TomD | 02-11-2008 07:52 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? Probably OK. I've got, or have seen, quite a number of fake Pandas. One thing they all have in common is that they weigh around 27 grams. It's also possible to tell from the soft plastic covering over the hard plastic shell, each of the 4 mints that make Pandas have a characteristic sealing pattern that I haven't seen on any of the fakes. There are lots of other differences, I wrote a multi page post last year, with pictures, on how to tell the difference.

Twisted Avatar | 02-11-2008 08:57 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? If you are going to buy pandas make sure you do it from a RESPECTED SOURCE with a paper trail ...... the pandas have such a bad wrap that it almost NOT worth the head ache to pickup anymore unless you plan to keep them for life. alot of folks are selling at STEEP discounts cause so many fakes are running around. T

TomD | 02-11-2008 10:18 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 962701) If you are going to buy pandas make sure you do it from a RESPECTED SOURCE with a paper trail ...... the pandas have such a bad wrap that it almost NOT worth the head ache to pickup anymore unless you plan to keep them for life. alot of folks are selling at STEEP discounts cause so many fakes are running around. T
Once in hand, none of the fakes that I've seen are hard to tell. Look at the real and fake 2002 below, I won't bother telling you which is which. The counterfeiters spent a lot more time with the reverse since it is common to large numbers of years but there are a lot of giveaways there too but not as obvious as the face side. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSC09716.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSC09702.jpg

Twisted Avatar | 02-11-2008 10:30 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? Great shot T ........yeah even stevie wonder can see which one is the fake....I guess I just very sensative to the fact that one day I MAY have to defend my bullion as being authentic.... I know as the prices rises that is going to happen regardless .....I just wanna keep that day as far into the future as possbile. Pandas are great coins as long as you are willing to do your homework.....and that should go for all your purchases Thanks for the shots......it made everything alot easier to understand T

TheSunniTri | 02-11-2008 06:08 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Can anyone take a high quality pic of 1oz panda gold. Stright and with nice background. thanks.

TomD | 02-11-2008 07:19 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSunniTri (Post 963546) Can anyone take a high quality pic of 1oz panda gold. Stright and with nice background. thanks.
I have a lot of silver Pandas but no gold ones.

TheSunniTri | 02-12-2008 05:51 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 963655) I have a lot of silver Pandas but no gold ones.
No worries. Will wait for you to get a gold panda one day and get a good pic.

Mike C | 02-13-2008 10:40 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? I have a gold 2007 1 ouncer, but am horrible with pics. Maybe if I get home today I could take a decent one outside since we have a lot of snow here. I'll try. Tom, I remember your write up on the pandas, might have to hunt it down to read about them again. Didn't you and someone(floridaracinggirl??) hacksaw through a few of the fakes?

TomD | 02-13-2008 05:26 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike C (Post 966160) Didn't you and someone(floridaracinggirl??) hacksaw through a few of the fakes?
That was me. The dark coloration in the copper was rust on the hacksaw blade rubbing off. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...pandas/cut.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...ht-f-panda.jpg 2

Twisted Avatar | 02-13-2008 05:49 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Wow that is really good pic Tom!!! Thanks for the education!! T

AuNuggets | 02-13-2008 06:00 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? As strange as it may sound, your best line of defense in avoiding fake Pandas is to NEVER buy them from Chinese sellers, especially on eBay. :no_ma:

Mike C | 02-13-2008 08:05 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? I hate posting pics after Tom posts pics, but oh well, I'm young and didn't take the time to do it right......... http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...2/DSCN1668.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...2/DSCN1663.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...2/DSCN1660.jpg That's my 07 ouncer. Shame that these guys have a bad rep because it is one of the nicest gold coins I own.

sneak | 02-13-2008 08:12 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 962649) I wrote a multi page post last year, with pictures, on how to tell the difference.
Does anybody have a link to this or a copy they can send me?

Mike C | 02-13-2008 10:16 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? I just did a search for "panda" and there were like 3 good threads in a row by Tom. If I knew how to ling them, I would, but i'm pretty ignorant.

TheSunniTri | 02-14-2008 10:37 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? Mike. thanks for you effort. The second PIC was good. It was standing upright and clear. The first is slanted and blured at the very top. Please can you re-take the first again and this time upright. Manythakns.

Professur | 02-14-2008 10:45 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? Ruined a real nice copper coin, there Tom.

TomD | 02-14-2008 02:03 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...ighlight=panda http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...ighlight=panda http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...ighlight=panda

sneak | 02-14-2008 09:59 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Thanks Tom!

Highbanker | 02-15-2008 07:46 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Why are people still buying silver pandas on E-bay?......For the love of Pete, Why?........... :banghead:

Jonas Parker | 02-26-2008 03:15 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by Highbanker (Post 970025) Why are people still buying silver pandas on E-bay?......For the love of Pete, Why?........... :banghead:
Because the price of copper is going up? :D

californiajeff | 02-28-2008 02:07 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? I was getting ready to buy 1 or 2 pandas but all these fakes is scaring me.

WAoG | 02-28-2008 03:11 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike C (Post 967127) I hate posting pics after Tom posts pics, but oh well, I'm young and didn't take the time to do it right......... That's my 07 ouncer. Shame that these guys have a bad rep because it is one of the nicest gold coins I own.
Are those real? I would not buy those.

WAoG | 02-28-2008 03:17 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? These shitty panda coins are a big reason people stay away from PMs.

xinkid | 02-28-2008 04:01 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? I just got a 1980s gold panda, can't remember the year. Mine doesn't come in a hard plastic capsule but it is in a soft sealed plastic case. Anyone with a gold panda know if they're supposed to come in hard plastic case? I will try to post a pic tonight.

xinkid | 02-28-2008 08:16 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? 2 Attachment(s) Here are the pictures of my gold panda. I couldn't take it out because the soft plastic sleeve is sealed. I think it looks quite real, what do you think? Click on the pictures for full size.

Goald | 02-28-2008 08:37 PM
Re: Authentic Panda? Yes my friend, you needn't worry, your coin is genuine.

TomD | 02-29-2008 09:19 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? I haven't heard of any good fake gold pandas. The weight of gold makes it very hard to pull off. I did buy some fake 1/10th oz gold pandas about a year and a half ago. The weight and diameter were right but they were twice as thick as real (1.6 mm Vs 0.8 mm). The 1/10th oz coins are so small that it was hard to notice.

xinkid | 02-29-2008 10:49 AM
Re: Authentic Panda? Thanks for the assurance. :D I read your other posts TomD, very thorough investigation. I think the lack of detail in the center of the stairs for the year 1987 is a good indicator that this is real. Also, the bamboo looks very sharp, hard to immitate. Good to know that gold coins are hard to fake. It's a 1 ouncer. The weight is fine and the thickness is similar to my maples.

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