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voidus | 07-20-2009 01:34 PM
2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Dream fulfilled; now we just count Posted by Dave Six months after the US. Mint began selling the Ultra-High-Relief Saint-Gaudens $20 gold pieces, it will increase the number of coins collectors can order from one coin per household to 10. The new limit becomes effective July 27 at noon Eastern Daylight Time. This step is both logical and expected. Anybody who wanted to get one has had the opportunity buy one since the coins went on sale Jan. 22. Anyone who might have wanted to attempt to corner the market amid the excitement of the initial release has been prevented from doing so. With roughly 70,000 sold, the coin is fairly widely distributed for something priced at $1,289. But in a way it is a ticket into the dreams of the artist, Augustus Saint-Gaudens who died in 1907, and President Theodore Roosevelt. Roosevelt wondered why a great nation at the beginning of the 20th century could not create a coinage to equal the beauty of what was produced over 2,000 years ago in ancient Greece. Collectors know that it wasn�t ability that was lacking. It was bankers and merchants who killed the high-relief idea. These coins are simply impractical. They do not stack. They do not slide easily across the counter. The high points would look vandalized very quickly under such conditions. (And wear reduces the actual gold weight of the coin.) So the original Saint-Gaudens $20 design remained an unsatisfied dream of many collectors for 100 years. Mint Director Ed Moy shared the dream and made it come true. Am I getting too dreamy here as well? Well, a work of numismatic art can do that. There. Back to counting. If you want 10, your wait is nearly over. http://blog.numismaticnews.net/buzz/...h,2009-07.aspx

oboshoe | 07-20-2009 01:36 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 ugh. So much for future appreciation.

livtocruz | 07-20-2009 02:29 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 1 Attachment(s) The new limit is ok with me as I finally got mine. Unlike HE who will not be named, Shortstack, :15_1_70v: I will not be touching mine. It's off to NGC. Even my wife is impressed and did not balk at the price.

HistoryStudent | 07-20-2009 02:30 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Bettya a stinkin' wooden NICKEL that gold starts doing a $100 to $200 a day dealie tonight/tomorrow. So by Thursday the mint hikes the UHR prices way UP UP and AWAY. But: who knows for sure, right. I'm figuring that the US dollar will get toasted soon. and LOSE some 20 cents PER! ~~~ IT COULD HAPPEN (say that in a laughing voice!). Darn they would do this right when I was going to buy some old Alexander the Great gold pieces. Lock and LOAD for the US MINT doing what they were supposed to do to begin with! :sarc::banghead::111:

C&L 1911 | 07-20-2009 02:36 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Watch the eBay prices plummet in the next few days/weeks as speculators try dumping their UHRs like hot potatoes... :565:

HistoryStudent | 07-20-2009 02:38 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 1826693) The new limit is ok with me as I finally got mine. Unlike HE who will not be named, Shortstack, :15_1_70v: I will not be touching mine. It's off to NGC. Even my wife is impressed and did not balk at the price.
Don't GIVE ole SHORTSTACK the short end of the stick. Maybe he just LOVES to fondle UHR gold things so they can be graded later at MS60, :4_1_72:right? Heck, he'd have the lowest Mint State UHR Double Eagle graded that way. Sometimes we all get too excitied with our gold held closely, quietly, safely, and securely. Buy some cotton gloves and invite SHORTSTACK over for a UHR FRISBE throw and lose value game. :ok::111::111:

mick silver | 07-20-2009 02:39 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 i was also hoping they would keep the mintage low on these

HistoryStudent | 07-20-2009 02:43 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by C&L 1911 (Post 1826709) Watch the eBay prices plummet in the next few days/weeks as speculators try dumping their UHRs like hot potatoes... :565:
Cocked & Locked: :applause_ I agree - and thanks for the heads up. :yes: (If the price of gold is held down of course) You knows for sure? :36_1_30: Boy you made me rethink about buying ASAP from the GIVERMINT holdouts. (READ USA MINT) Because they are the only ones not giving away the store because it's worth something real and tangible. Ebay here I come to bid at the end time. :wink:

shortstack | 07-20-2009 02:46 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1826712) Don't GIVE ole SHORTSTACK the short end of the stick. Maybe he just LOVES to fondle UHR gold things so they can be graded later at MS60, :4_1_72:right? Heck, he'd have the lowest Mint State UHR Double Eagle graded that way. Sometimes we all get too excitied with our gold held closely, quietly, safely, and securely. Buy some cotton gloves and invite SHORTSTACK over for a UHR FRISBE throw and lose value game. :ok::111::111:
I took my coin out, held it without gloves, and still got a first strike MS70 from PCGS. I held it by the edge of the coin for the most part, but did run my index finger over the face of the coin, (as a blind person might do) to experience the curvature of the coin face.

livtocruz | 07-20-2009 03:07 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1826726) I took my coin out, held it without gloves, and still got a first strike MS70 from PCGS. I held it by the edge of the coin for the most part, but did run my index finger over the face of the coin, (as a blind person might do) to experience the curvature of the coin face.
I envy you for having the balls to do that. Nothing like the feeling of a PM between the fingers. Right now my favorite coin of choice is a 1983 1 Onza silver Libertad.

Gordon Gekko | 07-20-2009 03:33 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 The Mint's trying to push some more of these babies out the door before the program ends (at the end of the year IIRC). Honestly, I don't think it will matter much. Those that wanted more than one have alredy got it via other means i.e. using a family member, friend, etc. to purchase. In terms of the value of my particular UHRDE (FS MS70), I don't think it will change the value much, if at all. There won't be any more first strikes added, for obvious reasons. In fact, when compared to the overall population of the UHRDE's, the FS MS70's will be even more rare.

HistoryStudent | 07-20-2009 03:40 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1826726) I took my coin out, held it without gloves, and still got a first strike MS70 from PCGS. I held it by the edge of the coin for the most part, but did run my index finger over the face of the coin, (as a blind person might do) to experience the curvature of the coin face.
Ah I just needed to do some complainin' while I held my blanket and sucked my thumb. Darn FED & Goldman SUCKS killed my rally! Sorry for POKIN' some fun but it helps others not to DROP a perfect MS70 by accident. I just want to :23_1_22: and say :signs14: and now I'll hide under my rock :RockOn:.

HistoryStudent | 07-20-2009 03:46 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 If the GOLD price goes up shortly this year - IT SHOULD - then all things valued in gold will escalate. The way TPTB are printing (adding 13 trillion US dollars to date which is probably twice the GNP of the whole 50 states) I'd expect gold to catch the winds of INFLATION - a MONETARY PROBLEM - and really hit new inflation added highs. Imagine 10,000 gold - IT COULD HAPPEN :yes: Imagine $200 silver - IT COULD HAPPEN :yes:

rodzm | 07-20-2009 04:15 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1826836) Imagine 10,000 gold - IT COULD HAPPEN :yes: Imagine $200 silver - IT COULD HAPPEN :yes:
Imagine $20 loaves of bread...IT COULD HAPPEN :cry1:

Jekyll7 | 07-20-2009 06:52 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstack (Post 1826726) I took my coin out, held it without gloves, and still got a first strike MS70 from PCGS. I held it by the edge of the coin for the most part, but did run my index finger over the face of the coin, (as a blind person might do) to experience the curvature of the coin face.
When PCGS handles them for grading, they don't wear gloves either. I've held nearly every gold coin I own with bare hands, and they aren't any worse for it.

goldfingerer | 07-20-2009 07:14 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Well, I haven't bought a UHR yet, even though I've been wanting one. This will undoubtedly lower the price in the long run as dealers buy them in quantity to sell. I was at coin show a few weeks ago. There were probably 60 or 70 dealers there. This was a big time coin show, happens once a year. There were probably 8 or 10 dealers there with UHR's. They all wanted Ebay pricing for them. These dealers are sure to buy as many as they can and then start selling them. If I was holding one for investment purposes, i'd flip it on Ebay right now before everyone finds out and the market gets flooded. You can buy it back in a few months for a couple hundred less. Of course, if you've got sentimental attachment, well, you just can't put a price on that.:emotions16:

Apocalypto | 07-20-2009 07:46 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by voidus (Post 1826614) These coins are simply impractical. They do not stack. They do not slide easily across the counter.
Whiner much?

HistoryStudent | 07-20-2009 08:05 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1826883) Imagine $20 loaves of bread...IT COULD HAPPEN :cry1:
Are YOU raining on my PARADE with practical wisdom? :Surrender::111::signs14: You win. $10,000 gold $200 silver and $12.50 GASOLINE! :10_1_19: The good news is that the streets will be empty. In So. California (REAL LEFTIST COAST) the freeways were ZIP nada zero when gas hit above $4.00 plus - I loved it. But I'm really strange.

igorthesmall | 07-20-2009 09:29 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Im glad I sold mine right when I got it. I really didnt like the look of it anyways. Too small and thick. I would love if the US mint made a coin the size of the Austrian 4 ducat, thats a good looking coin!

SirSilverOzzyyzzO | 07-26-2009 12:23 AM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 When you think about it, you are getting beat for $30.00 compared to a one ounce G.A.E., and one day that $30.00 difference may be the difference between your new house or your new shack...bancha

Apocalypto | 07-26-2009 02:07 AM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 1835957) When you think about it, you are getting beat for $30.00 compared to a one ounce G.A.E., and one day that $30.00 difference may be the difference between your new house or your new shack...bancha
Well, using that logic, all one ounce coins should cost the same, and they don't. That's the nature of the market. Are you also getting beat if you buy an SAE over a Krugerrand? The concept is that one day the UHR will increase in value at a higher ratio than the SAEs because the UHRs are in much fewer numbers, and are unique.

BoatingAccident | 07-26-2009 05:47 AM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Well, I first read this thread...I thought great, so much for the rarity of this coin. Then I realized some, I really don't care. I originally bought this coin to flip it, and get a quick profit. When I got the coin, and held it in my hand admiring it's beauty, it felt like owning a piece of history. This is our year boys...we bought this coin in the only year it will be minted. I'll never sell mine now. This coin is my 'baby'. All others, bullion. It's good to have one coin that has sentimental value, and the UHR is that coin for me.

HistoryStudent | 07-26-2009 11:23 AM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by BoatingAccident (Post 1836177) Well, I first read this thread...I thought great, so much for the rarity of this coin. Then I realized some, I really don't care. I originally bought this coin to flip it, and get a quick profit. When I got the coin, and held it in my hand admiring it's beauty, it felt like owning a piece of history. This is our year boys...we bought this coin in the only year it will be minted. I'll never sell mine now. This coin is my 'baby'. All others, bullion. It's good to have one coin that has sentimental value, and the UHR is that coin for me.
Yeah, now JUST lend me $12,900 so I can buy ten more PLEASE! :hahaha::haha::hahaha::haha::hahaha::haha::signs14 :

HistoryStudent | 07-26-2009 07:21 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Thanks for the first POST in this thread. I've found a few more US dollar PESOS to buy a few more UHRs. Just checked and the LIMIT is still ONE tonight. Will check tomorrow to see if TPTB at the US third-world MINT who seem to run out of everything hace changed their tune. Funny thing is the COIN WORLD magazine states that the PROOF BUFFALOS and GOLD EAGLES are in line for 2009 also. Now a smart move would be PROOFS - the way the fourth-world economy is going this might be the last year, right? :36_3_16: Bye-Bye But what can I DO but merely GUESS? :23_28_100s: Humbly yours - HS

HistoryStudent | 07-26-2009 07:22 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by voidus (Post 1826614) Dream fulfilled; now we just count Posted by Dave Six months after the US. Mint began selling the Ultra-High-Relief Saint-Gaudens $20 gold pieces, it will increase the number of coins collectors can order from one coin per household to 10. The new limit becomes effective July 27 at noon Eastern Daylight Time. This step is both logical and expected. Anybody who wanted to get one has had the opportunity buy one since the coins went on sale Jan. 22. Anyone who might have wanted to attempt to corner the market amid the excitement of the initial release has been prevented from doing so. With roughly 70,000 sold, the coin is fairly widely distributed for something priced at $1,289. But in a way it is a ticket into the dreams of the artist, Augustus Saint-Gaudens who died in 1907, and President Theodore Roosevelt. Roosevelt wondered why a great nation at the beginning of the 20th century could not create a coinage to equal the beauty of what was produced over 2,000 years ago in ancient Greece. Collectors know that it wasn�t ability that was lacking. It was bankers and merchants who killed the high-relief idea. These coins are simply impractical. They do not stack. They do not slide easily across the counter. The high points would look vandalized very quickly under such conditions. (And wear reduces the actual gold weight of the coin.) So the original Saint-Gaudens $20 design remained an unsatisfied dream of many collectors for 100 years. Mint Director Ed Moy shared the dream and made it come true. Am I getting too dreamy here as well? Well, a work of numismatic art can do that. There. Back to counting. If you want 10 :yes:, your wait is nearly over. http://blog.numismaticnews.net/buzz/...h,2009-07.aspx
Come to PAPA! Thanks! :yes:

SirSilverOzzyyzzO | 07-26-2009 10:44 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1836052) Well, using that logic, all one ounce coins should cost the same, and they don't. That's the nature of the market. Are you also getting beat if you buy an SAE over a Krugerrand? The concept is that one day the UHR will increase in value at a higher ratio than the SAEs because the UHRs are in much fewer numbers, and are unique.
Yeah man, I totally get where you are coming from; I was being silly. I have been a Silver/Gold bug for a long time and I know the dilly - oh on hopes and dreams of modern junk coins... However, I'm still gonna be peeeee' Ohhh' D if the dollar gets so devalued and we return to a Paper, Gold, & Silver system and your 50 dollar GAE buys you, or whomever, a bigger house than my 20 dollar UHR - based on face value price alone... Uniqueness won't mean sheit when that time comes... Yet, I'm still gonna pick up a few more UHR's...

SirSilverOzzyyzzO | 07-26-2009 11:13 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypto (Post 1836052) Well, using that logic, all one ounce coins should cost the same, and they don't. That's the nature of the market. Are you also getting beat if you buy an SAE over a Krugerrand? The concept is that one day the UHR will increase in value at a higher ratio than the SAEs because the UHRs are in much fewer numbers, and are unique.
Apocalypto, Just a little homage to your avatar, even though it's totally off topic and horrible audio (Maybe you can hunt for a better one) but, You Tube
You Tube
gave me the goosebumps for a long time when I saw the concert... Love the respect that David showed the boys..., and even though I love Led Zep, I prefer the sound of a Gibson SG - Always sounds like a chainsaw being dragged through the mud... Love it... Anyway, back to Gold coins now...

voidus | 07-26-2009 11:31 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Body count on the UHR's as of Sunday, July 19,2009 is 70,385 according to coinnew.net.

HistoryStudent | 07-27-2009 01:20 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Just checked the U. S. GIVER-MINT site the one with the coins: :111: And JUST like the wise fellow said at the start of the thread - the NEW household LIMIT (hope there is only one collector in the HOME, right? - imagine if five adult kids lived there - oh, well!) IS now 10 ten

Ragnarok | 07-28-2009 01:45 AM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Is that conditional on one agreeing to be a "backup supply vendor" in case they run out....AGAIN? :sarc: R.:tongue_ma:

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HistoryStudent | 07-28-2009 09:58 AM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok (Post 1839101) Is that conditional on one agreeing to be a "backup supply vendor" in case they run out....AGAIN? :sarc: R.:tongue_ma:
It's more like WHEN they run out agains because YOU PICK: price is too low right now for the money supply thet blew most of the 281 million ounce they had in TRUST for America's folks on keepin the price lower they KNOW what's GONNA happen in GOLD price over the next year They want to stop the rest of the 7% of the coins they still sell in Precious metals to go along with all the others they KILLED!:yes:

HistoryStudent | 07-28-2009 03:05 PM
Re: 2009 UHRDE Household Limit is increasing to 10 at noon July 27 I just went to order my UHRs and they shut the US GIVER MINT site down. Ain't that the way things are going - Just another Obummer. :10_1_19::36_3_12::yes:

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