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Tn...Andy | 07-22-2009 07:33 PM
Physical size of a Krugerrand Guy offered me a one ounce K-rand for something I wish to sell....and I want to make sure it's not a knock-off. ( don't know the guy....or he may have been fooled as well ) The specs I find on it are: 32.6mm in diameter and 2.84mm in thickness, which is 1.283 inches by 0.112 inches thick. IF I simply measure it with a decent caliper and get very close to those sizes, should it be OK ? Isn't that the principle behind those pocket coin sizer deals that measure thickness and diameter for known gold coins ? Or would I have to do weight too ?

goldminer | 07-22-2009 08:20 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand You have to weigh it too Andy... Diameter and thickness can be right yet the metal is not...which means the coin is going to be light.

Willie Peter | 07-22-2009 08:23 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1830841) Guy offered me a one ounce K-rand for something I wish to sell....and I want to make sure it's not a knock-off. ( don't know the guy....or he may have been fooled as well ) The specs I find on it are: 32.6mm in diameter and 2.84mm in thickness, which is 1.283 inches by 0.112 inches thick. IF I simply measure it with a decent caliper and get very close to those sizes, should it be OK ? Isn't that the principle behind those pocket coin sizer deals that measure thickness and diameter for known gold coins ? Or would I have to do weight too ?
I'd throw her on a scale too....what tha heck, 33.93g:ok: would be the winning number...

Bob | 07-22-2009 08:24 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand The Fisch detectors measure size and weight. They are essentially a balance. You need the proper weight to tip it, and you need the coin to fit in the proper sized opening. If it's copper for instance, you can get the size right but the weight will be off. You can also make the weight right, but you'll have to make the coin oversized. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1830841) Guy offered me a one ounce K-rand for something I wish to sell....and I want to make sure it's not a knock-off. ( don't know the guy....or he may have been fooled as well ) The specs I find on it are: 32.6mm in diameter and 2.84mm in thickness, which is 1.283 inches by 0.112 inches thick. IF I simply measure it with a decent caliper and get very close to those sizes, should it be OK ? Isn't that the principle behind those pocket coin sizer deals that measure thickness and diameter for known gold coins ? Or would I have to do weight too ?

AgAuGal | 07-22-2009 08:50 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand all you should have to do is weigh it Quote:
Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1830841) Guy offered me a one ounce K-rand for something I wish to sell....and I want to make sure it's not a knock-off. ( don't know the guy....or he may have been fooled as well ) The specs I find on it are: 32.6mm in diameter and 2.84mm in thickness, which is 1.283 inches by 0.112 inches thick. IF I simply measure it with a decent caliper and get very close to those sizes, should it be OK ? Isn't that the principle behind those pocket coin sizer deals that measure thickness and diameter for known gold coins ? Or would I have to do weight too ?

Tn...Andy | 07-22-2009 08:54 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob (Post 1830935) The Fisch detectors measure size and weight. They are essentially a balance. You need the proper weight to tip it, and you need the coin to fit in the proper sized opening. If it's copper for instance, you can get the size right but the weight will be off. You can also make the weight right, but you'll have to make the coin oversized.
Ah.....didn't know that.....thanks.....thought they just measured diameter and thickness....never seen a set of 'em. Quote:
Originally Posted by AgAuGal (Post 1830982) all you should have to do is weigh it
Nope, we're both wrong.....( what are the odds :biggrin: )....weight alone wouldn't do it.....it could weigh correct, but be oversized and made of a different metal.....( or undersized and be made of gold plated plutonium....ahahahaaa ) I can see now it has to meet all three criteria...diameter, thickness, weight....within a fairly close margin. Appreciate the replies, folks....

andial | 07-22-2009 08:59 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Be carefull, a lot of fake Kruggs out there. Philharmonics also, they say. :bandito:

Willie Peter | 07-22-2009 09:01 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Here's their site.....explains it all http://www.fisch.co.za/operation.htm

Tn...Andy | 07-22-2009 09:02 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by andial (Post 1830994) Be carefull, a lot of fake Kruggs out there. Philharmonics also, they say. :bandito:
Yeah....my point exactamundo. Never taken a pc of gold from an individual before, so my "spidey" senses went on alert. He doesn't seem the type to cheat, but he could have been cheated and not know it. I saw the coin, and it looked a whole lot more "brassy" than I remember Krugs looking from the few I've seen....

andial | 07-22-2009 09:07 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand I was just kidding around Tn...Andy. Because of all the posts here recently about possible fake Gold coins. Why don't both you guys just bring it to a nearby coin dealer and have him take a look at it. JMHO

mamboni | 07-22-2009 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by andial (Post 1830994) Be carefull, a lot of fake Kruggs out there. Philharmonics also, they say. :bandito:
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jedemdasseine | 07-23-2009 12:50 AM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand For the newbs, Krugerrands have the same dimensions as Gold Eagles. The metal alloy is slightly different (both being 22 karat), so don't be surprised if you see color differences between the two coins. Also, more Krugerrands have been minted than any other modern bullion coin. They replaced the British Gold Sovereign as the world's most ubiquitous gold coin.

Tn...Andy | 07-23-2009 07:16 AM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by andial (Post 1831011) I was just kidding around Tn...Andy. Because of all the posts here recently about possible fake Gold coins. Why don't both you guys just bring it to a nearby coin dealer and have him take a look at it. JMHO
OK....I just waded into the 9 page thread on the Phil's and now see where you were coming from..... Guess my timing was off in asking......

TomD | 07-23-2009 07:51 AM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by jedemdasseine (Post 1831346) For the newbs, Krugerrands have the same dimensions as Gold Eagles. The metal alloy is slightly different (both being 22 karat), so don't be surprised if you see color differences between the two coins. Also, more Krugerrands have been minted than any other modern bullion coin. They replaced the British Gold Sovereign as the world's most ubiquitous gold coin.
Eagles are alloyed with silver and Krugs with copper. I've seen a lot of Krugs that look "brassy". Eagles run more to a buttery color.

HistoryStudent | 07-23-2009 10:12 AM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand TRY FISCH TOOLS - they work... http://www.fisch.co.za/ Look around and BUY them to protect yourself. After all with gold coins at more than a grand now - and threatening to go up from 2 to 10 times from here... why be screwed? :111:

barter | 07-28-2009 03:22 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by jedemdasseine (Post 1831346) For the newbs, Krugerrands have the same dimensions as Gold Eagles. The metal alloy is slightly different (both being 22 karat), so don't be surprised if you see color differences between the two coins. Also, more Krugerrands have been minted than any other modern bullion coin. They replaced the British Gold Sovereign as the world's most ubiquitous gold coin.
Why is one single Fisch tool for just this one-ounce coin size/weight never sold separately??? Quote:
Wallet #2 - Gold Krugerrand/American Eagle/Britannia/Angel (1oz.) 1/2oz. Krugerrand/American Eagle/Britannia/Angel 1/10oz. Krugerrand/American Eagle/Britannia/Angel 1/4oz. Krugerrand/American Eagle/Britannia/Angel British Sovereign / South African 2 Rand (5 Detectors)
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Irons | 07-28-2009 03:48 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1831604) Eagles are alloyed with silver and Krugs with copper. I've seen a lot of Krugs that look "brassy". Eagles run more to a buttery color.
I've got one, I think its either a '78 or '82.The thing looks like a super shiny proof. After I measured it and put it on a scale, I brought it to my coin guy and he said he has seen a few just like it from the same year.

HistoryStudent | 07-28-2009 04:49 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by barter (Post 1840074) Why is one single Fisch tool for just this one-ounce coin size/weight never sold separately??? :favorites21:
Because it's best to DIVERSIFY into all types of gold coins. perhaps? I don't know for sure: but I love my sovereigns maples krugs 20 peso 50 peso 10 peso 5 peso 2 1/2 peso austrian coronas australian nuggets gold eagles 1 gold eagles 1/2 gold eagles 1/4 gold eagles 1/10 Maples 1/10 swiss french and a few others. :yes::504:

barter | 07-28-2009 05:05 PM
Re: Physical size of a Krugerrand Quote:
Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1840231) Because it's best to DIVERSIFY into all types of gold coins. perhaps? I don't know for sure: but I love my...
Fisch demands we pay $239 to buy each complete set. That's a lot of money for a piece of plastic. Many of us just want the most-popular 1-ounce AGE/Krug tool. :dontknow:

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