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The Great Ag | 06-28-2007 07:53 PM
Here is how we will lose our coins Found this article off coinflation. Excerpt below. Quote:
Coins can harbour the superbug MRSA, researchers have discovered. Health workers have been urged to be extra careful to wash their hands thoroughly after handling change. "This study indicates that contaminated coins may serve as a potential source for MRSA," say researchers from the Northern Ireland Public Health Laboratory, Belfast City Hospital. "Given that there are approximately 26,359 million coins currently in circulation in the UK, an examination of the survival dynamics of MRSA on money is warranted."
In the interests of public safety, all coins will be turned in and fractional paper will be issued. The Great Ag

naccarato | 06-28-2007 08:07 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins I'm throwing in the towel. Taking All my saved up change and going to the bank to have it digitized.

keehah | 06-28-2007 08:16 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins Returning to silver coinage will fix that problem! An Austrian doctor believes a dressing containing silver can virtually eradicate the cross infection of MRSA in hospitals. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4172207.stm:bear_thumb: Quote:
A simple dressing would seem little use in the fight against the superbug which is sweeping across Britain's hospital wards and operating theatres. After all, hospital-acquired infections, such as MRSA, kill 5,000 a year and cost the NHS £1bn. But a dressing, laced with silver, may well prove the best weapon in the fight against MRSA (methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus), according to an Austrian expert. ...Wounds infected with MRSA were covered with the dressing, which works by releasing silver ions into the wound for up to seven days, ridding the patient of the infection. ..."This could be the best chance we have."<!-- E BO -->

Ardent Listener | 06-28-2007 08:29 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins Yet, paper money which one can blow their nose in is safe?

The Great Ag | 06-28-2007 08:51 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins Quote:
Originally Posted by keehah (Post 649593) Returning to silver coinage will fix that problem! An Austrian doctor believes a dressing containing silver can virtually eradicate the cross infection of MRSA in hospitals. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4172207.stm:bear_thumb:
Here, Here! :applause_ :coolbeer: :9536: Don't let facts stop the gov't from taking away something it wants. The Great Ag

aeondaze | 06-28-2007 09:18 PM
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...Wounds infected with MRSA were covered with the dressing, which works by releasing silver ions into the wound for up to seven days, ridding the patient of the infection.
This is clear. This is a Ag+ compound that is probably is soluble like AgNO3, perchlorate or even some that are moderatle soluble over longer peroid, oddly enough though Ag(s) is not one of these. This was for a topical application of the infection, would a Ag coated coin really prevent the infection? Lets not stop the facts... :thinkey:

keehah | 06-28-2007 09:54 PM
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would a Ag coated coin really prevent the infection? Lets not stop the facts...
The thread was about coins being 'infected'. Quote:
"This study indicates that contaminated coins may serve as a potential source for MRSA,"
So is silver found on the surface of a silver coin? And Ag+ is found on the surface, as a tarnished coin shows. As for your discussion of Silver salts being the active form? As I understand it both ionic and colloidial silver work well. Is you talk of the salt any different than ionic silver? Please provide some links if it is. From what I have read, the most common form of active silver in the lit and ads is colliodial silver. Altough this may just be for making it into the blood via the gut, not needed for topical dressings. With colloids, solid surface chemistry is important to describe its activity, altough the surface propably still utlizes a postive charge or dipole for activity. Quote:
A Colloid or colloidal dispersion is a type of heterogeneous mixture <SUP class=reference id=_ref-0>[1]</SUP> . A colloid consists of two separate phases: a dispersed phase and a continuous phase. In a colloid, the dispersed phase is made of tiny particles or droplets that are distributed evenly throughout the continuous phase. The size of the dispersed phase particles are between 1nm and 1000nm in at least one dimension. Homogeneous mixtures with a dispersed phase in this size range may be called colloidal aerosols, colloidal emulsions, colloidal foams, or colloidal dispersions. The dispersed phase particles or droplets are largely affected by the surface chemistry present in the colloid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloid Most silver solutions have both ionic and colloidal silver. A common observation is that once 10-12 atoms are bound together (still dispersed in solution) surface (solid) properties begin play a part in its activity.

mamboni | 06-28-2007 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by keehah (Post 649593) Returning to silver coinage will fix that problem! An Austrian doctor believes a dressing containing silver can virtually eradicate the cross infection of MRSA in hospitals. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4172207.stm:bear_thumb:
Absolutely correct. MRSA is a gram positive coccobacterium: these are exquisitely sensitive to killing by low level silver ions, as would be readily availabe on the surface of a silver coin. A typical MRSA in-hospital infection can cost $10-20,000 to treat. Now silver is too rare and expensive for the government to reissue solid silver coinage - but silver-plated coinage could be quite readily accomplished economically. I would venture to guess that this would be a slam-dunk no-brainer from public health and health care economics standpoint. The prevention of a few dozen of the thousands of MRSA infections nationwide would easily save enough to pay for the cost of silver plating the currency. And, it would be a damn sight more pretty:D . I have to believe that the paper dollar bills in circulation are far more loaded with microbes, as they are porous, provide a superior substrate for attachment of batceria and viruses as compared to metal, and attract growth-nuturing moisture. The again, silver nanothreads could easily be incorporated in the cloth mix used to press currency paper.

naccarato | 06-28-2007 10:25 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins Silver plated on coins or woven into FRN's to prevent germs. No matter how hard they try to stop it, Silver is trying to get it's rightfull monetary usefullness back. Thanks for opening my eyes to this new angle GIMer's.

Abouthadit | 06-28-2007 11:09 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins Quote:
Originally Posted by keehah (Post 649593) Returning to silver coinage will fix that problem! An Austrian doctor believes a dressing containing silver can virtually eradicate the cross infection of MRSA in hospitals. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4172207.stm:bear_thumb:
Great find Keehah. Good job. :coolbeer:

aeondaze | 06-28-2007 11:38 PM
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The thread was about coins being 'infected'
and that a silver coating may act much the same way as a topical application of an ionic silver compound, which I agree could quite possibly be in colloidal form...however these things are different. 'Tarnish' or patina of silver is Ag2O which has a solubility (use as a guide) of 0.0022 g per 100g*, or very very little and as such I declare coins with silver coating to be vastly inferior at preventing the transmision of MRSA than the coloidal form does in a topical application...this is my point in regard to facts. *SI chemical data.

Turner-son | 06-29-2007 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by The Great Ag (Post 649580) Found this article off coinflation. Excerpt below. In the interests of public safety, all coins will be turned in and fractional paper will be issued. The Great Ag
I read that same article yesterday. It's interesting - The commentary on the article from coinflation.com: "This can't be good for the hobby. Yet another reason why we should have never removed silver from coinage: MRSA superbug doesn't like silver." I'm not sure if you've realized this (you probably have), but if you just mouse over the link and don't click on it, a commentary on the link will appear.

HistoryStudent | 06-29-2007 10:49 AM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins When the old Oregon/California PIONEERS crossed the the nation by covered wagon in the 1840s to 1870s - they kept a SILVER dollar in their water barrels - GEE, I wonder why?

Tn...Andy | 06-29-2007 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ardent Listener (Post 649600) Yet, paper money which one can blow their nose in is safe?
HEY....HOW did you know what I was doing with my FRNs ??? Jeezzzz, I'm really starting to think there is something to my paranoia.....

Atahualpa | 06-29-2007 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 650029) HEY....HOW did you know what I was doing with my FRNs ??? Jeezzzz, I'm really starting to think there is something to my paranoia.....
I'm sure you remember the "butt pennies video"? Just a little friendly advice...paper money has all kinds of pathogens from all the dirty hands it has passed through and when you put it up to your nose you are contaminating yourself...and I would never do business with you unless it was with pathogen resistant silver coins, you are obviously out to get society...what do you call the opposite of paranoia?

twenty4karat | 06-29-2007 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 649998) When the old Oregon/California PIONEERS crossed the the nation by covered wagon in the 1840s to 1870s - they kept a SILVER dollar in their water barrels - GEE, I wonder why?
Folks also put a silver dollar in the daily milk before refrigeration came along. I've been making and consuming Colloidal Silver for about 15 years and have manage to stay pretty healthy. And yes, my wounds do heal faster. The only thing it won't fix is the nerve, tissue, spinal and muscle damage from 30+ years of failed back surgery's. You younger folk out there, TAKE CARE OF YOUR BACKS: TEACH YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR BACKS!!! Trust me, a life of chronic daily pain is not worth using your body improperly just to pick something up that can wait! I was only 23 the first time I let them cut me open (that's why Doctor's are called practicing physicians) I just hope they learned from the mistakes they made on me to give the next guy a break. Sorry, I'll get off my Atrophy (I mean soap) Box now. Maranatha, :smile:

mozkill | 06-29-2007 02:23 PM
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When the old Oregon/California PIONEERS crossed the the nation by covered wagon in the 1840s to 1870s - they kept a SILVER dollar in their water barrels - GEE, I wonder why?
do you have a citation on this supposed fact?

HistoryStudent | 06-29-2007 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mozkill (Post 650193) do you have a citation on this supposed fact?
I ran across the fact when I was doing the research for my first two historical novels. Seems they also did use it in milk too. That's why the hospitals use a thin silver film on their air conditioning systems - because of the bacteria/fungus/virus problems.

HistoryStudent | 06-29-2007 11:28 PM
Re: Here is how we will lose our coins Quote:
Originally Posted by twenty4karat (Post 650153) Folks also put a silver dollar in the daily milk before refrigeration came along. I've been making and consuming Colloidal Silver for about 15 years and have manage to stay pretty healthy. And yes, my wounds do heal faster. The only thing it won't fix is the nerve, tissue, spinal and muscle damage from 30+ years of failed back surgery's. You younger folk out there, TAKE CARE OF YOUR BACKS: TEACH YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR BACKS!!! Trust me, a life of chronic daily pain is not worth using your body improperly just to pick something up that can wait! I was only 23 the first time I let them cut me open (that's why Doctor's are called practicing physicians) I just hope they learned from the mistakes they made on me to give the next guy a break. Sorry, I'll get off my Atrophy (I mean soap) Box now. Maranatha, :smile:
Get to a gym and strengthen the back and abs a little at a time. :bear_thumb: It really helps - I know 3 herniated disks bulging too. :applause_ L3, L4, & L5. :banghead:

bl96S5eu | 06-30-2007 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ardent Listener (Post 649600) Yet, paper money which one can blow their nose in is safe?
What about the people who handle it who don't wash their hands after wiping 'incorrectly'

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